Thank you for being up front and letting people know and decide for themselves. You guys have surpassed all other companies when it comes to light production. As a paramedic working in rural areas, light is critical. Making affordable light… is critical. I have 2 variations of the MCH. it is perfect. The best tool for garnering information on a scene and illuminating potentially dangerous places. I ordered the Chicro. You guys put America first. And your courage to outsource this particular light is evidence of thoughtfulness and a lack of greed. Honored to support your business and purchase your products.
Hey, I just wanted to say that it's absolutely fine that you guys are outsourcing manufacturing, sometimes the numbers just don't work out. As long as you guys continue to deliver quality products to the consumer then it's fine in my opinion. Plus, I'm loving my REIN 2.0
Microtech did the same with their SOCOM bravo. We’re super upfront, and even put some Chinese symbols in the box as a little upfront making fun of themselves too. Result: great Microtech design w top shelf Chinese manufacturing, and premium materials at an affordable price. Loved how they handled their business decision, and love how you handled yours. The consumer can decide which great product(s) they want to purchase. Personally, I love the USA made Microtech’s, and my Socom bravo is excellent too. I will be buying this…and the USA made pistol light when it comes. Good job guys. Full support. Smart, honest, business
Food for thought, what about selling this in a bundle with a single output high candela MCH? You could call it a patrol package for example, and that way people could use it as a One-Stop shop for lighting needs.
Just a couple of days ago I ordered a Streamlight of this size because I wanted the onboard charging port. I wear a Kitanica hoodie in the garage that has sleeve pen pockets that are perfect for a light of this size. I just ordered the Chicro.
Honestly I'd pay double to have it made in USA. One of the main reasons you have a loyal group of consoomers is because you make things here imo. Still bought one though. And your customer service is top notch.
Looks pretty sweet. Will be very interested to see how it stacks up to streamlight macrostream (500 lumens). Either way I think I’ll stick to your made in USA stuff
Cool. I’ll have to pick a few up. MCH is my daily driver. But nice to have something cheap I’m not too worried about losing. Your competitors micro light is $150. Might as well buy the small MCH for that price point.
I will disagree with you guys in respect to non critical items being manufactured in China, and the harm every American dollar does in the pockets of our main global enemy, but I will 100% respect you being up front and not trying to hide your stance. Love you guys and your products, looking forward to the pistol light!
@@gordonbombay6627 "Cheap excuses..."? I honestly don't understand what you mean; not only was this a product intro, but a full disclosure and reasonable explanation as well. I'm not criticizing your perspective; rather, I'm genuinely trying to understand it... your comment, in my opinion, doesn't make sense. BTW, I'm neither associated with Cloud Defensive, nor do I own any of their lights; I use the Streamlight Microstream USB as an "admin/edc" light, and was simply trying to compare feature pros & cons.
@Cloud Defensive A 5 lumen low setting along with the 350 and 35 would be appreciated for edc... Often map reading or up close tasks at 35 lumes is uncomfortable to the eyes or too bright while trying to remain discreet in certain situations. It would also allow you to stretch out the run time. 35 is perfect for most tasks but sometimes you just need less light, and without the ability to use common alkaline cells you may be in a situation that it may be beneficial to use less light to stretch out the run time. Regardless, I'll still be buying one, love your weapon lights. Stoked to see an edc offering at this price point from you guys, made in China or not. 👍👍
Make a small 14500 defensive light. 600-800 lumen 15000cd. 4.5 inches with an aggressive texture and strike bezel so you could also use it as a kubotan. I find these 18650 still a bit big for pocket carry
@Cloud Defensive Rember though, a light only has too much candela when it has recoil or the beam catches things on fire 😁 Make sure that pistol light can compete with the others that are pushing 54k to 69k candela
This looks like the Mateminco CSF03 but without the medium mode. The CSF03 has a better pocket clip but no usb-c. Are they made in the same factory? Also, the CSF03 can take AAA, is the Chicro dual fuel?
@@Actual-user I posed a question as to whether both lights are made in the same factory and if the cloud is dual fuel, both 10440 and aaa. Why are you taking offense over a simple question?
@@Actual-user I prefer the ability to both clip it to my pocket and my hat brim as an impromptu headlamp. Your need for deep carry isnt applicable to my needs
@@CloudDefensive being able to clip it to my hat is a huge deal for EDC handsfree admin stuff. It's the reason I still carry my Olight Baton III despite also carrying an MCH
Great to hear! To flip the clip around you'll need to pop it off the rear of the light then move it to the front. It might be a little stiff removing it the first time.
How about a US made inbetween light? Like $120, 800 lumens or so and much less candela, slightly bigger than this but not quite the micro mch size. Could use a 18350 battery, but much smaller head with more spill, tons more battery life than the mch. I'd love to see that
@@youreright7534 ohhhh burnnnn. If you were right. I have two mch and got them both first gen. They suck ass. They aren’t 1400 lumens and it doesn’t work when it gets too cold. I have 50$ Chinese lights that work better in below freezing temps. I gave both my mchs away because my modlites are much much better
Then why switch from the streamlights that already fill this spot? American made is really the only reason to swap. Not poopooing this light. Now make it in odg and I'll bite, because I have no impulse control
I again have to recommend that you look into adding more versatility to your handheld lights. Unlike a weapon light, pocket lights are the opposite of unitaskers. People who are into the EDC game enough to know much about lights generally have a lot of expectations, especially when it comes to modes and UI. I don't even consider a light for carry if it doesn't have a
Hopefully spending the respurces at home on getting the pistol light together. I'm probably going to be forced to go with another manufacturer at this point. Someone else's light is better than no light on my bedside pistol. Had high hopes a long time ago when it was announced. Reality doesnt seem to have it in my deck I'd cards.
Where are your driver boards made on your USA made flashlights? Also where are your reflectors made??? Why is their no “made in USA” on the lights themselves?
@@CloudDefensive I should have been more specific, a clip that can clip on your pocket and clip on your hat without having to move it. I don’t want to be fiddling around with flipping a pocket clip in the dark so I clip it to my hat.
@Cloud Defensive we understand you can clip the clip but I've snapped 2 or 3 clips doing this in the cold. Just make the clip double back on its self. What a missed opportunity
Nope, the market would totally support that price being USA made and 2-3 times the price. I mean look at microtech knives they have the tiny UTX-70 that us only good for daily EDC tasks but it's USA made and almost 300 bucks. There are also other USA made lights that are not tactical and cost in the hundreds that people are buying left and right. Even Surefire has the titan at 90-100 bucks USA made and they are selling. Yall could have done it... just didn't want too
Looks cool but I’ve got a cheap Bushnell/China special that does ALL of that except the recharge feature, that’s handy!! BUT so is the 1 AAA Battery it takes Haha 😂 you had me excited for a second!! Lol it’s 250 lumens 👍 it’s also $19.99 😉
Nervous chuckle after stating it’s ok that it’s made overseas because our phones are? I love you guys and the humor is funny but with a relatively simple light why not mass produce in the states?
Great question. The simple answer is we looked into it, and it couldn't be made here at a sustainable price. It was either not make the light at all, or have it manufactured to our specs overseas.
This light is not worth the price tag of $50, the emitter wasn’t even centered when I received mine better call over seas and check that quality control, very disappointed 😢.
I loathe the argument that since we own some things that are made in China, we should simply accept it and capitulate. Just because my phone is made in China doesn't mean I should just throw up my hands and stop buying American made products when I have the option to do so. I would buy an American made phone if it were an option. I bought a REIN not only because it's a premium light for my rifle, but because it is also American made. I could have purchased an Olight or some other CCP junk and saved a fortune. I chose American made because it means something. Yeah, I'm 5 months late finding this video but I'm sharing my thoughts anyway. At least you're honest and upfront about it, but I wouldn't have made the argument that just because our phone or whatever else is made in China, we should just accept it. For the mediocre performance and the fact that it's made in China, I wouldn't pay more $20 for it, IMO.
Hey quick update on the mch. It was in my car right next to my Olight mini warrior 2. Overnight it got cold. Which one do you think worked while being cold?…. It wasn’t the 219$ cloud with two settings. It was the Chinese light with multiple settings and modes and ui. The Olight clicked right on. I had to warm the cloud up before it would work. Which light do you think I’d depend my life on? Extremely disappointing.
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Respect for being up front about it, I love it
Of course. That's mandatory!
You love that they’re making a product in China?
@@TheQuickest most of the stuff you already own is made in China.
Love this thing, just got it a few days ago and been using it a ton. Just walked home in the dark with it. 👍👍👍
Thank you for being up front and letting people know and decide for themselves. You guys have surpassed all other companies when it comes to light production. As a paramedic working in rural areas, light is critical. Making affordable light… is critical. I have 2 variations of the MCH. it is perfect. The best tool for garnering information on a scene and illuminating potentially dangerous places. I ordered the Chicro. You guys put America first. And your courage to outsource this particular light is evidence of thoughtfulness and a lack of greed. Honored to support your business and purchase your products.
I just bought 2 can’t wait to get them!
Perfect light to throw in a treestand pack! Also love the name and owning it!
Bingo!
Wow a company that's direct and honest. Amazing thing to see these days.
That's how we roll.
Hey, I just wanted to say that it's absolutely fine that you guys are outsourcing manufacturing, sometimes the numbers just don't work out. As long as you guys continue to deliver quality products to the consumer then it's fine in my opinion. Plus, I'm loving my REIN 2.0
Thanks man! Much appreciated!
Good job guys. I’ll pick it up just because you were upfront about it, and dedicating the real time and resources to the weapon lights.
Much appreciated!
Ha! Joke's on you, I'm not watching on a phone!
....wait, my TV was made where? (Slinks back into a corner)
Haha!
The Chicro is an awesome little light. It’s on par with the streamlight micro lights
Got mine today. The box it comes in is great hahaha.
Haha, glad you liked it!
Microtech did the same with their SOCOM bravo. We’re super upfront, and even put some Chinese symbols in the box as a little upfront making fun of themselves too.
Result: great Microtech design w top shelf Chinese manufacturing, and premium materials at an affordable price.
Loved how they handled their business decision, and love how you handled yours.
The consumer can decide which great product(s) they want to purchase.
Personally, I love the USA made Microtech’s, and my Socom bravo is excellent too.
I will be buying this…and the USA made pistol light when it comes.
Good job guys. Full support.
Smart, honest, business
Thanks for the support. We greatly appreciate it!
Food for thought, what about selling this in a bundle with a single output high candela MCH?
You could call it a patrol package for example, and that way people could use it as a One-Stop shop for lighting needs.
Not a bad idea.
For sure I’ll swoop a bundle
Just a couple of days ago I ordered a Streamlight of this size because I wanted the onboard charging port. I wear a Kitanica hoodie in the garage that has sleeve pen pockets that are perfect for a light of this size. I just ordered the Chicro.
Thanks for the support!
Looking forward to it. I wish you would have included some real beam shots. I even looked on RUclips and nobody has filled beam shots of this light.
Those are coming soon!
10/10 will buy one for work
Awesome!
Everything makes sense here🎉
Like others have said well done one being very upfront with the fact it’s made on the other side of the pond! Name is Hilarious, I’ll be buying a few!
Thanks for the support!
I'ma get most of that!
Honestly I'd pay double to have it made in USA. One of the main reasons you have a loyal group of consoomers is because you make things here imo.
Still bought one though. And your customer service is top notch.
So other than the extra 100 lumens, this looks a lot like a streamlight micro stream? I wonder how it compares in the hand
Looks pretty sweet. Will be very interested to see how it stacks up to streamlight macrostream (500 lumens). Either way I think I’ll stick to your made in USA stuff
Nothing wrong with that.
It's competition is more in line with the Streamlight Micro USB for its size.
Will this run on aaa if needed with less output
Love it! Any chance of adding a backwards clip like on the streamlight microstream? Helpful for attaching to hats in a pinch.
The clip is reversible, so you can use it on your hat.
@@CloudDefensive ok cool. Website shows out of stock, when will they be back? Or have they even dropped yet?
@@jtlegionnaire6310 Haven't dropped yet. They'll be out next week.
Does it come on high or low mode first ?
Will you offer this along with new trade-ins for the rein 3 like you did at launch?
Cool. I’ll have to pick a few up. MCH is my daily driver. But nice to have something cheap I’m not too worried about losing. Your competitors micro light is $150. Might as well buy the small MCH for that price point.
Now if we could just come out with the mythical pistol light we would be onto something 😂
I will disagree with you guys in respect to non critical items being manufactured in China, and the harm every American dollar does in the pockets of our main global enemy, but I will 100% respect you being up front and not trying to hide your stance. Love you guys and your products, looking forward to the pistol light!
We can appreciate and respect this response.
@@gordonbombay6627 Do you own any now? Would you pay $140 for a micro task light?
@@gordonbombay6627 "Cheap excuses..."? I honestly don't understand what you mean; not only was this a product intro, but a full disclosure and reasonable explanation as well. I'm not criticizing your perspective; rather, I'm genuinely trying to understand it... your comment, in my opinion, doesn't make sense. BTW, I'm neither associated with Cloud Defensive, nor do I own any of their lights; I use the Streamlight Microstream USB as an "admin/edc" light, and was simply trying to compare feature pros & cons.
@@gordonbombay6627 Fair enough; that is a very reasonable point.
Every manufacturer in this gun world has certain parts made over seas, just the way it is.
It’d be amazing if you could have ultra low setting for when it’s dark Admin Light.
The low mode is pretty dim.
@Cloud Defensive A 5 lumen low setting along with the 350 and 35 would be appreciated for edc... Often map reading or up close tasks at 35 lumes is uncomfortable to the eyes or too bright while trying to remain discreet in certain situations. It would also allow you to stretch out the run time. 35 is perfect for most tasks but sometimes you just need less light, and without the ability to use common alkaline cells you may be in a situation that it may be beneficial to use less light to stretch out the run time. Regardless, I'll still be buying one, love your weapon lights. Stoked to see an edc offering at this price point from you guys, made in China or not. 👍👍
Make a small 14500 defensive light. 600-800 lumen 15000cd. 4.5 inches with an aggressive texture and strike bezel so you could also use it as a kubotan. I find these 18650 still a bit big for pocket carry
Can it be set to start hi then low
This looks good. Looking forward to that pistol light guys 😏 No rush by any means ✌
We're looking forward to it too haha
@Cloud Defensive Rember though, a light only has too much candela when it has recoil or the beam catches things on fire 😁
Make sure that pistol light can compete with the others that are pushing 54k to 69k candela
This looks like the Mateminco CSF03 but without the medium mode. The CSF03 has a better pocket clip but no usb-c. Are they made in the same factory? Also, the CSF03 can take AAA, is the Chicro dual fuel?
@@Actual-user I posed a question as to whether both lights are made in the same factory and if the cloud is dual fuel, both 10440 and aaa. Why are you taking offense over a simple question?
@@Actual-user I prefer the ability to both clip it to my pocket and my hat brim as an impromptu headlamp. Your need for deep carry isnt applicable to my needs
Finally something worth replacing my Olight with. gonna have to snag one of these
Good stuff!
@@CloudDefensive being able to clip it to my hat is a huge deal for EDC handsfree admin stuff. It's the reason I still carry my Olight Baton III despite also carrying an MCH
@@Tarburz It's definitely super useful.
Is there MCH 2.0 hidden in plain sight? 🤔
Love the light, just got it!
QQ how do you flip the clip?
Great to hear! To flip the clip around you'll need to pop it off the rear of the light then move it to the front. It might be a little stiff removing it the first time.
@@CloudDefensive Thanks!
Great name
Thanks!
How about a US made inbetween light? Like $120, 800 lumens or so and much less candela, slightly bigger than this but not quite the micro mch size. Could use a 18350 battery, but much smaller head with more spill, tons more battery life than the mch. I'd love to see that
The mch sucks. Won’t be hard to one up the mch. Now how much will they charge for another pile of shit.
So a surefire Tactician?
@@gordonbombay6627 said by a dude who probably either doesn't carry a light or carries a 15 year old streamlight
@jrozz421 yeah but not surefire😂 cheaper, better, and brighter as usual, the cloud way
@@youreright7534 ohhhh burnnnn. If you were right. I have two mch and got them both first gen. They suck ass. They aren’t 1400 lumens and it doesn’t work when it gets too cold. I have 50$ Chinese lights that work better in below freezing temps. I gave both my mchs away because my modlites are much much better
I Own a REIN 2.o and just ordered the 3.0 but this Chicro was not in stock. i want a few....when will some be in stock?
They're available now.
It would be nice to see it one modeonly with a forward switch. Basically the old microstream with charging port 1 mode only
Offshore where?
I got this on the way for my gf and the mch duty for myself
What are the runtimes of it on both high and low.
Full specs coming soon.
Then why switch from the streamlights that already fill this spot? American made is really the only reason to swap. Not poopooing this light.
Now make it in odg and I'll bite, because I have no impulse control
The thought of ODG has me weak.
I again have to recommend that you look into adding more versatility to your handheld lights. Unlike a weapon light, pocket lights are the opposite of unitaskers. People who are into the EDC game enough to know much about lights generally have a lot of expectations, especially when it comes to modes and UI. I don't even consider a light for carry if it doesn't have a
Pistol lights Update ???? And whatever happened to the free metal picket clip for MCH
EPL is still in development. Pocket clips are almost ready. We ran into major supply chain issues outside of our control.
Cool addition to the line up. What’s the candella?
Thanks! Full details coming soon.
Max candela?
I’m surprised too. I can’t find any of that information.
Olight gone sweaty...
Hopefully spending the respurces at home on getting the pistol light together. I'm probably going to be forced to go with another manufacturer at this point. Someone else's light is better than no light on my bedside pistol. Had high hopes a long time ago when it was announced. Reality doesnt seem to have it in my deck I'd cards.
I will call this light El Chrico
Beam shots, we want beam shots!
Should make reverse clip like olight where you can clip to a hat and a pocket
You can reverse the clip.
Where are your driver boards made on your USA made flashlights? Also where are your reflectors made??? Why is their no “made in USA” on the lights themselves?
So basically it's a streamlight. Which is fine, I own many and have yet to have one fail. Still waiting on a pistol light though.
Big miss on the pocket clip. Should have a reverse clip to stick on your hat. About the only thing olight gets right
It is reversible. You can flip it around and use it on your hat.
@@CloudDefensive I should have been more specific, a clip that can clip on your pocket and clip on your hat without having to move it. I don’t want to be fiddling around with flipping a pocket clip in the dark so I clip it to my hat.
@Cloud Defensive we understand you can clip the clip but I've snapped 2 or 3 clips doing this in the cold. Just make the clip double back on its self. What a missed opportunity
candela?
1400 - perfect for an admin light.
Cool story where's the ir head for the rein that has been promised for years
Wow cheaper than my stylus pro from streamlight
Glad I seen this video before I decided to pull the trigger. I’ll pass on this one gents.
Nope, the market would totally support that price being USA made and 2-3 times the price. I mean look at microtech knives they have the tiny UTX-70 that us only good for daily EDC tasks but it's USA made and almost 300 bucks. There are also other USA made lights that are not tactical and cost in the hundreds that people are buying left and right. Even Surefire has the titan at 90-100 bucks USA made and they are selling. Yall could have done it... just didn't want too
I’d love to have 1-5 but not at $50 bucks!! Lol 😂
Looks cool but I’ve got a cheap Bushnell/China special that does ALL of that except the recharge feature, that’s handy!! BUT so is the 1 AAA Battery it takes Haha 😂 you had me excited for a second!! Lol it’s 250 lumens 👍 it’s also $19.99 😉
Nervous chuckle after stating it’s ok that it’s made overseas because our phones are? I love you guys and the humor is funny but with a relatively simple light why not mass produce in the states?
Great question. The simple answer is we looked into it, and it couldn't be made here at a sustainable price. It was either not make the light at all, or have it manufactured to our specs overseas.
Cool light but
This light is not worth the price tag of $50, the emitter wasn’t even centered when I received mine better call over seas and check that quality control, very disappointed 😢.
Wtf Im streamer But. Dont have idea My name is Chicro Boom 😂
I loathe the argument that since we own some things that are made in China, we should simply accept it and capitulate.
Just because my phone is made in China doesn't mean I should just throw up my hands and stop buying American made products when I have the option to do so.
I would buy an American made phone if it were an option. I bought a REIN not only because it's a premium light for my rifle, but because it is also American made.
I could have purchased an Olight or some other CCP junk and saved a fortune. I chose American made because it means something.
Yeah, I'm 5 months late finding this video but I'm sharing my thoughts anyway.
At least you're honest and upfront about it, but I wouldn't have made the argument that just because our phone or whatever else is made in China, we should just accept it.
For the mediocre performance and the fact that it's made in China, I wouldn't pay more $20 for it, IMO.
Not trying to be a dick here but tye olight i3t and steeamlight micro stream fill this role nice. With better pocket clips. Nothing new here.
The problem with just accepting “non-critical” items being made in china is what got us on this mess in the first place.
There’s nothing wrong with having it made overseas, as long as it’s not made in China. And then you said it was made in China. Ouch ! Ouch.
made in china
Chicro = Chinese micro. You sir, could not be more correct. LOL
Bruh…. Now that they got a taste of offshore manufacturing, it’s going to seep into even their main lights watch.😢
Absolutely not
Made in China lol
I think I’m switching back to Modlite
Same here man
Care to elaborate why or just leaving the comment for attention?
@@1986GaryJr because their lights are American made. No chicom trash
@@2010GT500 I'll take your Cloud lights you already have then.
@@2010GT500 lol, it's just this small light. Every other light they have is made in the US
Hey quick update on the mch. It was in my car right next to my Olight mini warrior 2. Overnight it got cold. Which one do you think worked while being cold?….
It wasn’t the 219$ cloud with two settings. It was the Chinese light with multiple settings and modes and ui. The Olight clicked right on. I had to warm the cloud up before it would work. Which light do you think I’d depend my life on? Extremely disappointing.
Give us the EPL!! I'm tired of buying Surefire X-300 and Streamlights!!!