@0give they’re out now, it’s getting crazy, you literally have to check 2-3x’s/day. But thanks for posting this, I was able to ge two pounds of the Win 6.5 ball powder that otherwise I would have missed out on.
@0give I'm gasping for LR primers. I can get powder and bullets in .308 and .458, (but not .358.) Manufacturers have been playing to the lowest denominator of new gun owners shooting .223 and .308 factory ammo and don't give a rip about reloading. Meanwhile, us reloaders get the hind teat with availability of powders, bullets, brass and especially primers for large rifles.
40.7 gr H4350 in a .243 with a Berger 90 gr BT target bullet. 3 years running now my 13 and 14 year old kids have won over everybody in our local summer benchrest league in hunter class with this load. Proud dad moment.
H4350 is my favorite. For my Ruger Precision in 6.5 Creedmoor I am running 43.5 grains of H4350 to propel 142gr Sierra Matchking at average velocity of 2,888 fps. After testing ended up with .251 grouping at 100 yards.
Hodgon 4350 is a fantastic powder for 7mm Rem Mag also, awesome velocity and accuracy with 165gr Hornady monolithics out of a 24 inch barreled Mdl 700. Thanks for the video!
I've been loading H4350 in 30-06 and .243 winchester for about 3 years. In my experience it is the best metering stick powder I have used. I have a rcbs hopper style powder measure. In my experience with my 30-06 load when I am not trickling it has a .75 +/- spread I typically load 55.3 grains behind a 180 NBT my average mv with this load is 2710 in a 22 inch barrel my SD hangs around 14 fps . In my rifle the average group 3 shot group is 1.03 moa I took 15 3 shot groups to determine that metric. I find this acceptable for my use as I won't shoot game past 450 yards. And rarely shoot past 200 yards. In my .243 I find that I have to trickle. I don't know what it is about the decreased charge weight but in my case the spread opens up to +/- 2 grains wich is not acceptable. I like to use it with the heavier weight 100 grain bullets in my .243
I love H4350 for my 6.5 & 6 Creedmoor rifles, but haven't seen any available anywhere for well over a year. Same with Varget. Fortunately I bought both in quantity before the madness began. Crazy world we live in now.
I bounce between h380 and 4350 for two of my rifles . I use 380 in my 22-250 in the summer and 4350 in winter . 4350 in summer and 4064 in winter with my .308 purely for velocity in both rifles due to the massive temperature swing in my area which helps maintain the velocity at long range with both .
Hey guys love your work 👍🏻 here in Australia H4350 is adi2209 same powder, I’ve used it in lots of cartridges of my own and loaded for others aswel, I’ve always found it to be an extremely accurate powder and very easy to tune loads with, I have used it in 6.5creed, 25-06, 6.5-284, 257weatherby, 7mm rem mag, 30-06, 300win mag, 338win mag all have worked great.
I've been using H4350 for both .300 Win Mag, and .338 Win Mag. 64.2 gr of powder for 200 gr HORNANDY ELD-X gives me MV of 2,830 fps. 69.4 gr of powder for 230 gr ELD-X .338 gives me MV of 2,860 fps. I started using this powder, because I couldn't find my usual other powders, and it's worked out well. Brought home many dead caribou with those loads over the last few years.
Flexing 2 8lb jugs of H4350 right now is like walking into high school prom with super model on each arm. All the guys looking jealously and drooling. 🤣🤣👍
6.5X47 Lapua, 39 grains of H4350 with 130 grain Berger bullets. Good for 600 yds. 38 grains of H4350 with 142 grain Sierras also at 600 yds. Neither is a super hot load in my rifle but near the top of Sierra’s recommended maximum.
Recent subscriber here, and while RUclips might push your longer projects more, these shorts where you discuss all the things from all the suppliers are real gold.
I’m running 61.6g of H4350 over a 190g Berger VLD Hunter in my 300 WSM. My OAL varies 3.015 - 3.030” but my CBTO is 2.3325” so I had to modify my mags to fit and replace my Tikka’s bolt stop with a LA one. I’ve been getting 2960fps @ 3550’
My PRS load for my 6GT is 33.8gr H4350 and Berger 109 hybrids about 2850fps and SD's around 5fps. Shoots .2" groups still after 2400 rounds on the barrel.
Used it in a few rounds like my 260 Rem and in the past 30-06 but I'm saving all we have for my wife's 6.5x55, does great with almost any bullet we have tried from 120-155 gr. Looking forward to working with Stabal 6.5 in my 260 and also the 6.5x55.
I’m doing load development for my savage 110 .270 win. I’ve looked up load data for my components. Not a lot out there for my components. But there is some. I chose H4350 because I can get plenty of it and it’s temp friendly. I also chose it because I can use it in many of my hunting different cartilages. So far I’ve been very satisfied with H4350 powder handling. Now I’m getting ready to range test the five .270 cartilages I loaded yesterday. I’m expecting good results. I’ve studied and purchased the equipment a little bit at the time. Now it’s time to see what I’ve learned. Thanks Gav and friends for being part of the cyber reloading school.
Love the H4350! My favorite too! I’m running H4350 on a 9.3X62 Mauser, 7x57 Mauser, 7 SAUM, 257 Roberts, 6mm Creedmoor, and 6.5 PRC. It’s an awesome versatile powder! I need to try and develop my loads for the 308win so that way I can see if I can stop using Varget.. On the 6CM I running it with 108, 109, 112 and 115 Berger’s almost with the same loads getting very low and consistent sd. Also it’s very accurate on my 7SAUM with the 180, 183 and 184 gr bullets. Super low sd as well. Impressively accurate on the 7mm Mauser with 140-180 gr bullets, 257 Roberts from 100-135 gr bullets and 9.3X62 Mauser with 250-285 bullets.
best be camping on the sites for those powders. Make an account and stay logged in. If you waste time logging in after you've added a hot item to your cart(like 4350 or Varget) you will most likely be too late lol. It's a crazy race out there.
I started with IMR 4350 in my 7 Rem Mag years ago. As it became hard to get, switched to H4350. Great consistant powder. Running 62gr behind 145gr BTSP
I just started using H4350 since I recently acquired a 6.5 Creedmoor. My first tests produced .3 groups out of a new barrel. The load I used is 140 ELD-M, 40.3 H4350, CCI 34 primer, and Alpha brass. I haven’t had as much luck with it in 7-08, but I’m not worried since I have 12 lbs. of Big Game and a pile of 140 BT’s that get .2 groups.
Hey i have the same set up. H4350, eld-m 140s and cci#34 nato primers as well. Good solid brass. Ive only went up to39 gr but more accurate as the velocity increases. Seen this with other people on youtube as well. Any advice on a sweet spot or is that your only test? With 39 gr i get just close to 1” groups usually 3 at .5 and 2 flyers.
I Have a Christianson MPR in the 6.5 creedmoor. Was using H-4350 41.5 grs BR2 primers excellent groups less than.05 MOA 5 Shot groups which i normally do on all my rifles..I had a few pounds of IMR 4451 which I had great success also..same 41.5 grains seating depth 20 thou off the lands with H ELD match 140 gr..Just changed my primers to Fed 210 Match..Also in the 0.5 MOA range Both powders have done well for me..H4350 The Enduro IMR 4451.
A little late to this discussion, My shooting platform is a Sako Tecomate chambered in .300 WSM. I have been loading Burger 168 VLD at 64gr's for about 10 years now. FPS is almost 3100. This set up is amazing. My farthest hunting shot was 460 yards on a Elk in Wyoming. Late October. I loaded and slighted in around August. No change in performance, no complaints.
I just bought my first H4350 ever. Neat story. But I have loaded 7mm RemMags since mid 80s. I mainly used IMR4350 & IMR4831 with all bullet weights. I started using H1000 & Retumbo. But I worked up a sweet whitetail load with IMR4451 @ 2825. I have a "ladder test" worked up with some different bullets using IMR4451 & H4350 to compare the 2. Eager to get velocities, SDs, & groups. Thank you all.
@@andrewowens6754 I am sure it is fantastic. I landed on the 69.5 grain of Retumbo and 162 ELDX. I got 2950ish average low SD/ES submoa. I intend to use these for elk out west next year or two. My whitetail load with 4451 or H4350 is still great for them. Enjoy, stay safe and happy hunting.
I’ve been running 41.7gr H4350 with 140 ELDMs Peterson brass and BR2s in my 6.5 Creedmoor comp guns and it has been an unbelievably accurate load in 3 barrels now. Each barrel preferred a node right around there +/- 0.2gr. I’ve gotten single digit SDs and velocities around 2,800 FPS. On a few occasions i have taken this out to a mile.
I've been using the H4350 in my Savage BA10/110 6.5 CM for about two years. I use the Hornady 143 gr ELD-X and 40.6 grains of the H4350. I get good and low ES and average around 2,750 fps. It is now my go-to powder.
Bought a pound of h4350 years ago. Didn't use much before switching to Vihtavouri powders. Expensive stuff, but really consistent and not as fouling in my guns... I might have to break out that h4350 again and do some more experimenting.
The only Hodgdon labelled powder I have used is their Superformance for my .30-06's. Otherwise I have been a devoted IMR powder reloader using the IMR 4064 and 3031 most of the time for my .308 and .35 Remington. I am gradually moving toward the Winchester 748 and 760 as my 'go-to' powders for the .308 and .30-06. The pressure index is lower than other powders and the velocity lost due to this is negligible. And, they meter much more easily. I like your thoughts about compressed loads even though you didn't say compressed. I never thought about the gap between the primer and powder in the casing if you are pointing downward in a hunting situation or combat position. I loved seeing the .375 H&H Magnum in your line-up.
Use it in my 270 win with 130 gr soft points. Bought a bag of a 1000 at a garage sale 30 years ago and still using them. That load has taken many many deer over the years.
down in the south east i'm doing a ladder test on the 223, 6.5 creed , 6.5 prc and .308 all at the same time with wide verity of powders and bullets some time in the next two weeks.
I use H4350 for my 30.06, and 300 WinMag. Using the 168 grain TTSX Barnes bullet for both. Both perform well, but for some reason my WinMag really came alive with this powder. 75 grains is at 3320 with an sd of 11. Browning X-Bolt 26” barrel. And for some reason the recoil isn’t that bad? I only get 2870 out of my 30.06 with 57.5, but recoil feels similar.?? 30.06 is about 4 ounces lighter and has a 24” barrel (Rem 700). Anyway, it’s my favorite powder.
I've used IMR 4350 for many years and now H4350 sense it came out. Both are great powders, and they cover many cartridge sizes and calibers. The large thing with H4350 is the graduals are shorter for easier feed through load throwers. Also great groups at the range
Shooting a 6XCII with 39.0gr of H4350 and 105 Berger VLD Target consistently around the 1/4 inch 9shot groups. I've trusted H4350 in a number of cartridges now and it has always preformed. I want to try that StaBall 6.5 in a 6.5 Creed..... plz restock
Great video. I started using H4350 in my 6.5 CM AR10 with 22" barrel. 140 ELDm 41.5 at 2698 fps. For a gas gun it does pretty good with less than .68" groups at 230yds. My savage elite 6.5CM 24" does well with 40.2 of H4350 with the 140eldm at 2720 fps. Because of your staball video an seeing it available now, I had to try some of that. It does well with the 147gn eldm with 43.6gn @ 2847 😲 in the savage. I have to play with it in the AR now :-)
56.5 h4350 168 bthp mk in 3006 load I good in my father's 700 rem BDL. Shoots good performs good. We hunt also with that load and it will kill about anything that gets in it's path so I think I'll stick with it.
4350 is the most versatile powder out there. Although I’ve always had more consistent velocities with IMR from 243 up to 30-06. H4350 is slightly slower burning and produces a little higher velocity with larger capacity cases.
Which IMR powder? My H4350 produces SD’s of 7-8fps (10 shots), and has a temperature variability of 2 FPS from 33 degrees through 102 degrees. 6.5CM, 140 Berger Hybrid, Lapua brass, AI AX.
Have been using H4350 in my Ruger precision in 6.5 cr. Hornady 140 gr. eld match at 41.5 gr. At 2725 fps. With 5 shot groups of .258" plus or minus. the smallest at .236" at 100yds. The only powder i use in my 6.5 cr
Still waiting on a video with classic hunting cartridges and H-4350 runs well in the 30-06, the 270, and even the 7mm08. Does Gavin know about the 270 and 7mm08 or is he to young to be familiar with those cartridges? FWIW, my 338 Win Mag loves all three 4350 powers with 250 and 225 grain bullets.
Nick, what bullet do you run for you 7mm-08 that 4350 likes? I"ve tried Berg. 140 VLDH and 150 CH. Neither one was really great. But when I tried Varget with the 140, groups dropped to in the 3's, 4's consistently.
In this video & article we mention several classics: 30-06, 6mm Remington, 25-06, and the 375 H&H. Last August we posted an article & video about hunting with the 30-06 using H4350. Bear, elk, pronghorn & mule deer. Yes, we know & use many of the classic cartridges. I do think we'll have to test a 270 Win someday, so far I've got it bracketed with the 25-06 & 30-06 rifles.
I loved h4350, then staball dropped and I tried it when couldn’t get 4350. I like staball but I’m going back to 4350. Just seemed easier to develop loads with. Staball was kinda picky for me.
6 Creedmoor running 39.7 gn if H4350. .24 MOA with a 109 Berger Hybrid long rang. Problem is I can’t find any more Bullets, powder or primers to load with.
I use h4350 in my 6.5 creed as well as reloader 16 and 23. I just got some of the imr enduron powers I’m going to try. The 6.5 staball works better in my 7mm-08 with 160 grain bullets.
I use to run IMR 4350 in almost every caliber I had, I have since gone to Varget, RL16 ........ nothing wrong with, either IMR or Hodgdon in the 4350 markets, I still have a few pounds of IMR 4350, that I use strictly in my 7mm Mag....................................
I couldn’t find more than a lb or 2 of H4350 anywhere in the last year or so. I was lucky and found a good amount of IMR4350 though, and have gotten amazing results with that. As good as H4350 for sure.
I have been trying to get ahold of some H4350 for 6 months. Bought my forester co-ax and haven't been able to purchase large rifle primers or h4350. Have Sta ball, Accurate 4350 and Superformance. But can't move forward without primers....very discouraged.
I was finally able to stock up on this and Varget. Did you ever do more work with Staball. Im still using that for my 6.5 creedmoor over H4350 - Im running 42.5g @ 2870 on a 140g ELD-M out of a 26 inch barrel. Using Varget and H4350 for my 6mm and my x47s though.
Did some load development using H4350 with 165 gr Hornady SST bullets in my 30-06 and was able to obtain 3520 fps with an SD of 2.5. Must add that I have a 30" Broughton barrel. No pressure signs were observed.
H4350 is growing in popularity since Hodgdon bought out DuPont/IMR and IMR 4350 is getting harder to find. Along with Alliant reloader 17 hasn't been coming in from Switzerland.
I'm glad I came across this, as I was under the same impression, THANX. In NZ Hodgdon is getting hard to get, so I went looking for something else and found the ADI AR2209 I use 41gr behind a Hornady 90gr ELD-X bullet
I can't get h4350 but could get a ld of imr 4451. Been loading 165 gr sierras, 168gr tsx's in my 30-06,and 139 gr in my 7mm-08's. Very similar to h4350. I would like to get h4350 if I could. It looks like for now imr 4451 is a very good substitute. I would like you to do a similar test with imr 4451 if you could. Thanks.
Great video - now if I could just find some to buy!!!!! I have literally been looking for 3 months now!!!!!! I was just able to get some Winchester 6.5 Staball but I am still in search of the elusive H4350.
I used shootingbot in stock website to get powder and primer in stock notifications. I just got two pounds of H4350 a couple weeks ago. It has been coming in stock about once every 10 days or so
@@stevefisher2121You are welcome, shooters need to help each other out. Primers come up consistantly also. The only downside is the hazmat fee for shipping
I use 4350SC short cut version in my 260 Rem loads. 42 grains in both my model 7 and my AR-10 platform. 140 grain sierra btsp and 127 grain Barnes ttx. Use Winchester primers with Lapua brass
Just came across this video and is great. Just got my hands on this powder and wondering if anyone has used it on .308 ? Dont see it in the reload books for that cartridge
I shoot a Ruger M77 long range. Favorite load is h4350 ( 40.2g.) ,147 gr. ELD Match. Not a hot load, but 5 shot group under 1/2 inch at 100 yard. I don’t think my old eyes can do any better. Good for sub moa at 600 yards.
Those of us who are prairie dog shooters also go through a lot of loading and shooting so I would love to see more info for those of us who shoot light for calliber bullets such as 55 and 70 grain bullets for 243 and 40 and 55 grain bullets for 223 and 22 250. 😊
Would you be able to do a ladder test using H4350 on a 7mm rem. mag. ? My grandson uses H1000. Expensive along with having to use at least 10gr of more powder per round. Just wanted to compare H1000 to H4350 and see what you would come up with
It’s actually AR2209 manufactured here in Australia by ADI (Australian Defence Industries) and I believe packed down and labelled H4350 in the US.
I'm glad I came across this, as I was under the same impression, THANX.
I use 41gr behind a Hornady 90gr ELD-X bullet
It says made in Australia so probably it is
H4350 is a unicorn in our area for years. They simply can't produce enough. My favorite .30-06 powder under 180gr projectile.
@0give they’re out now, it’s getting crazy, you literally have to check 2-3x’s/day. But thanks for posting this, I was able to ge two pounds of the Win 6.5 ball powder that otherwise I would have missed out on.
Agreed, have not seen H4350 or Varget in over year in my area. Substations are okay but not the same as H4350.
@0give I'm gasping for LR primers. I can get powder and bullets in .308 and .458, (but not .358.) Manufacturers have been playing to the lowest denominator of new gun owners shooting .223 and .308 factory ammo and don't give a rip about reloading. Meanwhile, us reloaders get the hind teat with availability of powders, bullets, brass and especially primers for large rifles.
GunBroker will have h4350 but it's 3x the price there :(
Powder is making its way back in slowly by now. Best of luck. PA has wuite some. NY not so much
40.7 gr H4350 in a .243 with a Berger 90 gr BT target bullet. 3 years running now my 13 and 14 year old kids have won over everybody in our local summer benchrest league in hunter class with this load. Proud dad moment.
Good to see you boys enjoy using Australian Munitions powder. H4350 is made in Australia and its called AR2209 at home. You’re welcome.
H4350 works great for 270 Winchester as well
Please share load data !
H4350 is my favorite. For my Ruger Precision in 6.5 Creedmoor I am running 43.5 grains of H4350 to propel 142gr Sierra Matchking at average velocity of 2,888 fps. After testing ended up with .251 grouping at 100 yards.
Sounds spicy… any signs of pressure? What barrel length?
Enjoying your videos with Guy and Travis. Great to have that extra input from guys who have a lot of knowledge. Regards from Australia.
Hodgon 4350 is a fantastic powder for 7mm Rem Mag also, awesome velocity and accuracy with 165gr Hornady monolithics out of a 24 inch barreled Mdl 700. Thanks for the video!
varget and 4350 are two great powders made down under by australian defence industries here we know them as adi 2208 and 2209
Well said mate -- that’s if we can get it !!!
@@seanfrazer4589 my local had some 1kg tubs in January. Haven't been back since
@@seanfrazer4589 Yeah supply not too bad here as yet
My favorite is IMR 4350. Perfect for everything from 243 win to 7mm mag and 3006
I've been loading H4350 in 30-06 and .243 winchester for about 3 years.
In my experience it is the best metering stick powder I have used.
I have a rcbs hopper style powder measure. In my experience with my 30-06 load when I am not trickling it has a .75 +/- spread I typically load 55.3 grains behind a 180 NBT my average mv with this load is 2710 in a 22 inch barrel my SD hangs around 14 fps . In my rifle the average group 3 shot group is 1.03 moa I took 15 3 shot groups to determine that metric. I find this acceptable for my use as I won't shoot game past 450 yards. And rarely shoot past 200 yards.
In my .243 I find that I have to trickle. I don't know what it is about the decreased charge weight but in my case the spread opens up to +/- 2 grains wich is not acceptable. I like to use it with the heavier weight 100 grain bullets in my .243
I love H4350 for my 6.5 & 6 Creedmoor rifles, but haven't seen any available anywhere for well over a year. Same with Varget. Fortunately I bought both in quantity before the madness began. Crazy world we live in now.
I bounce between h380 and 4350 for two of my rifles . I use 380 in my 22-250 in the summer and 4350 in winter . 4350 in summer and 4064 in winter with my .308 purely for velocity in both rifles due to the massive temperature swing in my area which helps maintain the velocity at long range with both .
Of coarse it's good, made in Australia by ADI, we call it AR2209. I only use ADI powders.
Yeah so do I because you can't find anything else nowadays. 😂
Hey guys love your work 👍🏻 here in Australia H4350 is adi2209 same powder, I’ve used it in lots of cartridges of my own and loaded for others aswel, I’ve always found it to be an extremely accurate powder and very easy to tune loads with, I have used it in 6.5creed, 25-06, 6.5-284, 257weatherby, 7mm rem mag, 30-06, 300win mag, 338win mag all have worked great.
I've been using H4350 for both .300 Win Mag, and .338 Win Mag. 64.2 gr of powder for 200 gr HORNANDY ELD-X gives me MV of 2,830 fps. 69.4 gr of powder for 230 gr ELD-X .338 gives me MV of 2,860 fps. I started using this powder, because I couldn't find my usual other powders, and it's worked out well. Brought home many dead caribou with those loads over the last few years.
Flexing 2 8lb jugs of H4350 right now is like walking into high school prom with super model on each arm. All the guys looking jealously and drooling. 🤣🤣👍
6.5X47 Lapua, 39 grains of H4350 with 130 grain Berger bullets. Good for 600 yds. 38 grains of H4350 with 142 grain Sierras also at 600 yds. Neither is a super hot load in my rifle but near the top of Sierra’s recommended maximum.
Recent subscriber here, and while RUclips might push your longer projects more, these shorts where you discuss all the things from all the suppliers are real gold.
I’m running 61.6g of H4350 over a 190g Berger VLD Hunter in my 300 WSM. My OAL varies 3.015 - 3.030” but my CBTO is 2.3325” so I had to modify my mags to fit and replace my Tikka’s bolt stop with a LA one. I’ve been getting 2960fps @ 3550’
My PRS load for my 6GT is 33.8gr H4350 and Berger 109 hybrids about 2850fps and SD's around 5fps. Shoots .2" groups still after 2400 rounds on the barrel.
Used it in a few rounds like my 260 Rem and in the past 30-06 but I'm saving all we have for my wife's 6.5x55, does great with almost any bullet we have tried from 120-155 gr. Looking forward to working with Stabal 6.5 in my 260 and also the 6.5x55.
Have h4350 and seem to keep pulling the N555 off the shelf for the 6.5cm
I’m doing load development for my savage 110 .270 win. I’ve looked up load data for my components. Not a lot out there for my components. But there is some. I chose H4350 because I can get plenty of it and it’s temp friendly. I also chose it because I can use it in many of my hunting different cartilages. So far I’ve been very satisfied with H4350 powder handling. Now I’m getting ready to range test the five .270 cartilages I loaded yesterday. I’m expecting good results. I’ve studied and purchased the equipment a little bit at the time. Now it’s time to see what I’ve learned. Thanks Gav and friends for being part of the cyber reloading school.
Love the H4350! My favorite too!
I’m running H4350 on a 9.3X62 Mauser, 7x57 Mauser, 7 SAUM, 257 Roberts, 6mm Creedmoor, and 6.5 PRC. It’s an awesome versatile powder! I need to try and develop my loads for the 308win so that way I can see if I can stop using Varget..
On the 6CM I running it with 108, 109, 112 and 115 Berger’s almost with the same loads getting very low and consistent sd.
Also it’s very accurate on my 7SAUM with the 180, 183 and 184 gr bullets. Super low sd as well. Impressively accurate on the 7mm Mauser with 140-180 gr bullets, 257 Roberts from 100-135 gr bullets and 9.3X62 Mauser with 250-285 bullets.
Do you have any data for H4350/IMR4350 and the 140gr. range in 6.5 PRC? It would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, John
Perfect timing! I was just wondering about powders as I start reloading.
best be camping on the sites for those powders. Make an account and stay logged in. If you waste time logging in after you've added a hot item to your cart(like 4350 or Varget) you will most likely be too late lol. It's a crazy race out there.
30/06 runs great with H4350 (Ar2209) uesing it for years now👍👍🍻
I started with IMR 4350 in my 7 Rem Mag years ago. As it became hard to get, switched to H4350. Great consistant powder. Running 62gr behind 145gr BTSP
What velocity do you get?
@@A.Mad.Lad89 If I remember right it's 3150-3200 ish.
I just started using H4350 since I recently acquired a 6.5 Creedmoor. My first tests produced .3 groups out of a new barrel. The load I used is 140 ELD-M, 40.3 H4350, CCI 34 primer, and Alpha brass.
I haven’t had as much luck with it in 7-08, but I’m not worried since I have 12 lbs. of Big Game and a pile of 140 BT’s that get .2 groups.
Hey i have the same set up. H4350, eld-m 140s and cci#34 nato primers as well. Good solid brass. Ive only went up to39 gr but more accurate as the velocity increases. Seen this with other people on youtube as well. Any advice on a sweet spot or is that your only test? With 39 gr i get just close to 1” groups usually 3 at .5 and 2 flyers.
I Have a Christianson MPR in the 6.5 creedmoor. Was using H-4350 41.5 grs BR2 primers excellent groups less than.05 MOA 5 Shot groups which i normally do on all my rifles..I had a few pounds of IMR 4451 which I had great success also..same 41.5 grains seating depth 20 thou off the lands with H ELD match 140 gr..Just changed my primers to Fed 210 Match..Also in the 0.5 MOA range
Both powders have done well for me..H4350
The Enduro IMR 4451.
A little late to this discussion,
My shooting platform is a Sako Tecomate chambered in .300 WSM. I have been loading Burger 168 VLD at 64gr's for about 10 years now. FPS is almost 3100. This set up is amazing. My farthest hunting shot was 460 yards on a Elk in Wyoming. Late October. I loaded and slighted in around August. No change in performance, no complaints.
I just bought my first H4350 ever. Neat story. But I have loaded 7mm RemMags since mid 80s. I mainly used IMR4350 & IMR4831 with all bullet weights. I started using H1000 & Retumbo. But I worked up a sweet whitetail load with IMR4451 @ 2825.
I have a "ladder test" worked up with some different bullets using IMR4451 & H4350 to compare the 2.
Eager to get velocities, SDs, & groups. Thank you all.
Retumbo in my 7 mag with 168 grn ABLR'S, IS INCREDIBLE.. it shoots a very tight group, @ 3000 fps, in my Model 70.
@@andrewowens6754 I am sure it is fantastic. I landed on the 69.5 grain of Retumbo and 162 ELDX. I got 2950ish average low SD/ES submoa. I intend to use these for elk out west next year or two. My whitetail load with 4451 or H4350 is still great for them. Enjoy, stay safe and happy hunting.
@@guardianminifarm8005 I'm using 71 grns of Retumbo under this 168 GRN ABLR.. but I worked up to it .
H-4350 is my go to for my .257 Roberts and a 110 bullet.
I’ve been running 41.7gr H4350 with 140 ELDMs Peterson brass and BR2s in my 6.5 Creedmoor comp guns and it has been an unbelievably accurate load in 3 barrels now. Each barrel preferred a node right around there +/- 0.2gr. I’ve gotten single digit SDs and velocities around 2,800 FPS. On a few occasions i have taken this out to a mile.
39.0 grains of H4350 with a 100 Hornady Interlock in a .243 is deadly on white tails.
I've been using the H4350 in my Savage BA10/110 6.5 CM for about two years. I use the Hornady 143 gr ELD-X and 40.6 grains of the H4350. I get good and low ES and average around 2,750 fps. It is now my go-to powder.
Bought a pound of h4350 years ago. Didn't use much before switching to Vihtavouri powders. Expensive stuff, but really consistent and not as fouling in my guns... I might have to break out that h4350 again and do some more experimenting.
I have 2lbs of the stuff. I'm looking forward to having the time to develop loads with H4350 and my 22 Creedmoor.
IMR 4451 and H4350 are excellent choices for the 6.5 Creedmoor, especially with 140 grain match bullets.
The only Hodgdon labelled powder I have used is their Superformance for my .30-06's. Otherwise I have been a devoted IMR powder reloader using the IMR 4064 and 3031 most of the time for my .308 and .35 Remington. I am gradually moving toward the Winchester 748 and 760 as my 'go-to' powders for the .308 and .30-06. The pressure index is lower than other powders and the velocity lost due to this is negligible. And, they meter much more easily. I like your thoughts about compressed loads even though you didn't say compressed. I never thought about the gap between the primer and powder in the casing if you are pointing downward in a hunting situation or combat position. I loved seeing the .375 H&H Magnum in your line-up.
Use it in my 270 win with 130 gr soft points. Bought a bag of a 1000 at a garage sale 30 years ago and still using them. That load has taken many many deer over the years.
my Bergara 6.5 creedmoor loves 42gr of h4350 in sig brass and 140eldm. sub .25MOA 2750fps 6.0SD
down in the south east i'm doing a ladder test on the 223, 6.5 creed , 6.5 prc and .308 all at the same time with wide verity of powders and bullets some time in the next two weeks.
I use IMR 4350 with cast bullet loads in my milsurps with long barrels. Works great. My SMLE loves it with cast.
I know everyone says you can not use 4350 in 308 but I am going to test it and if you all did that would be great
I use H4350 for my 30.06, and 300 WinMag. Using the 168 grain TTSX Barnes bullet for both. Both perform well, but for some reason my WinMag really came alive with this powder. 75 grains is at 3320 with an sd of 11. Browning X-Bolt 26” barrel. And for some reason the recoil isn’t that bad? I only get 2870 out of my 30.06 with 57.5, but recoil feels similar.?? 30.06 is about 4 ounces lighter and has a 24” barrel (Rem 700). Anyway, it’s my favorite powder.
I've used IMR 4350 for many years and now H4350 sense it came out. Both are great powders, and they cover many cartridge sizes and calibers. The large thing with H4350 is the graduals are shorter for easier feed through load throwers. Also great groups at the range
Shooting a 6XCII with 39.0gr of H4350 and 105 Berger VLD Target consistently around the 1/4 inch 9shot groups. I've trusted H4350 in a number of cartridges now and it has always preformed. I want to try that StaBall 6.5 in a 6.5 Creed..... plz restock
H4350 gives very consistent velocity with 286g bullet in 9.3x62 Mau. My rifle is limited by 20” barrel but still achieve 2400 fps
I use the most H4350 in the 6.5-284 with142 grain match bullets.
H4350 a favorite for my .585 AHR, 155 grs. behind a 750 Woodleigh weldcore...Quite the buffalo stopper.
It's a great powder but please also do one on IMR 4451.
I’ve had good luck using H4350 in my fast twist .22-250 Bergara B-14 HMR. Best group so far using 69 SMKs has been .32” with several other .50” groups
Great video. I started using H4350 in my 6.5 CM AR10 with 22" barrel. 140 ELDm 41.5 at 2698 fps. For a gas gun it does pretty good with less than .68" groups at 230yds.
My savage elite 6.5CM 24" does well with 40.2 of H4350 with the 140eldm at 2720 fps.
Because of your staball video an seeing it available now, I had to try some of that. It does well with the 147gn eldm with 43.6gn @ 2847 😲 in the savage.
I have to play with it in the AR now :-)
I picked up a couple of cans of H4350 and want to work up a hunting load for the Hornady 140grain SST
Bought a couple lbs each of 4350, Varget & H4831 today....couldn't believe my timing lol!
Did U have to take out a loan for that purchases? L lol
@@rickyspeakman4445 Just about😆
I like this content on powders.
I use it for my 7mm-08 with 140gr nosler BT. I’m getting ES of 6 and 5 shot groups nearly all in the same hole. I use a bergara b14 ridge
56.5 h4350 168 bthp mk in 3006 load I good in my father's 700 rem BDL. Shoots good performs good. We hunt also with that load and it will kill about anything that gets in it's path so I think I'll stick with it.
N560 has been my go to for the last two years! In my 6.5 creed!
4350 is the most versatile powder out there. Although I’ve always had more consistent velocities with IMR from 243 up to 30-06. H4350 is slightly slower burning and produces a little higher velocity with larger capacity cases.
Which IMR powder? My H4350 produces SD’s of 7-8fps (10 shots), and has a temperature variability of 2 FPS from 33 degrees through 102 degrees. 6.5CM, 140 Berger Hybrid, Lapua brass, AI AX.
Have been using H4350 in my Ruger precision in 6.5 cr. Hornady 140 gr. eld match at 41.5 gr. At 2725 fps. With 5 shot groups of .258" plus or minus. the smallest at .236" at 100yds. The only powder i use in my 6.5 cr
I haven’t been able to find h4350 powder for a while now. I just bought the IMR4350, I’ve heard it was same, just a little more temperature sensitive.
I ran h4350 in my 22 br, using 95 gr smk @ 2950. Extremely accurate and consistent. Shot inside the 6 and 6.5mm out to 1500 yards in high winds.
I run 37.7 grains of H4350 in my 6GT with 110 SMKs and 450s. 3030 fps and one hole.
Works well in the 22 Creedmoor as well
Good to know!
@@Ultimatereloader I’ve just started working with it pushing Berger 77 gr OTMS. Shooting a pretty mild load getting excellent es and sd.
Still waiting on a video with classic hunting cartridges and H-4350 runs well in the 30-06, the 270, and even the 7mm08. Does Gavin know about the 270 and 7mm08 or is he to young to be familiar with those cartridges? FWIW, my 338 Win Mag loves all three 4350 powers with 250 and 225 grain bullets.
Nick, what bullet do you run for you 7mm-08 that 4350 likes? I"ve tried Berg. 140 VLDH and 150 CH. Neither one was really great. But when I tried Varget with the 140, groups dropped to in the 3's, 4's consistently.
In this video & article we mention several classics: 30-06, 6mm Remington, 25-06, and the 375 H&H. Last August we posted an article & video about hunting with the 30-06 using H4350. Bear, elk, pronghorn & mule deer. Yes, we know & use many of the classic cartridges. I do think we'll have to test a 270 Win someday, so far I've got it bracketed with the 25-06 & 30-06 rifles.
Sometimes I buy powder just because they have it in stock. Last year, at different times, I was able to find Staball 6.5 and H4350.
I loved H4350 in my 6GT. Probably even more than Varget. It was rock solid using Remington 7 1/2 primers and 105-109 grain bullets.
I loved h4350, then staball dropped and I tried it when couldn’t get 4350. I like staball but I’m going back to 4350. Just seemed easier to develop loads with. Staball was kinda picky for me.
Same here
6 Creedmoor running 39.7 gn if H4350. .24 MOA with a 109 Berger Hybrid long rang. Problem is I can’t find any more Bullets, powder or primers to load with.
I remember when I first started reloading about 10 years ago, Varget was all the rage. Now I rarely hear about it.
H 4350.H1000. h110, stabal 6.5 retumble and more other i have to choose from, love hand loading.
I’d like to know where you are getting all this reloading supplies
I’ve been wanting to get some H4350 but can’t find any. I would use for my 6.5 creedmor
300 WSM and H4350 work very well. 63.2 gr of powder, FED215M and Winchester brass with 200 ELD-X
I use h4350 in my 6.5 creed as well as reloader 16 and 23. I just got some of the imr enduron powers I’m going to try. The 6.5 staball works better in my 7mm-08 with 160 grain bullets.
I use to run IMR 4350 in almost every caliber I had, I have since gone to Varget, RL16 ........ nothing wrong with, either IMR or Hodgdon
in the 4350 markets, I still have a few pounds of IMR 4350, that I use strictly in my 7mm Mag....................................
What about 308 win loading a 178 gr ELDx bullet? Will it work?
I run a 6XC for PRS and H4350 is the best powder money can buy for it.
43.5gr of H4350 (easy to remember, LOL) works well with MY 7mm-08 162gr A-Max.
I couldn’t find more than a lb or 2 of H4350 anywhere in the last year or so. I was lucky and found a good amount of IMR4350 though, and have gotten amazing results with that. As good as H4350 for sure.
I like my 51.4 gr for my 270 win out of my savage 110E 22 inch barrel 145gr eld-x 2897 five shot average with a sd of 11
I have been trying to get ahold of some H4350 for 6 months. Bought my forester co-ax and haven't been able to purchase large rifle primers or h4350. Have Sta ball, Accurate 4350 and Superformance. But can't move forward without primers....very discouraged.
You can't beat H4350 and IMR 4350 powders. They load so many different cartridges and bullet weights extremely accurate.
I was finally able to stock up on this and Varget. Did you ever do more work with Staball. Im still using that for my 6.5 creedmoor over H4350 - Im running 42.5g @ 2870 on a 140g ELD-M out of a 26 inch barrel. Using Varget and H4350 for my 6mm and my x47s though.
I use it for 7saw h4350 46.2 grain sd 0 es 2 5 shot group is one hole group
Did some load development using H4350 with 165 gr Hornady SST bullets in my 30-06 and was able to obtain 3520 fps with an SD of 2.5. Must add that I have a 30" Broughton barrel. No pressure signs were observed.
Did you mean 3020fps? Even that’s moving
@Ron, no, 3520fps.
Wow, impressive...I don’t know that I could hit those numbers with my 300rum lol.
What is your load ?
H4350 is growing in popularity since Hodgdon bought out DuPont/IMR and IMR 4350 is getting harder to find. Along with Alliant reloader 17 hasn't been coming in from Switzerland.
I'm glad I came across this, as I was under the same impression, THANX.
In NZ Hodgdon is getting hard to get, so I went looking for something else and found the ADI AR2209
I use 41gr behind a Hornady 90gr ELD-X bullet
I can't get h4350 but could get a ld of imr 4451. Been loading 165 gr sierras, 168gr tsx's in my 30-06,and 139 gr in my 7mm-08's. Very similar to h4350. I would like to get h4350 if I could. It looks like for now imr 4451 is a very good substitute. I would like you to do a similar test with imr 4451 if you could. Thanks.
my favorite for my 300wm with 220 smks
Great video - now if I could just find some to buy!!!!! I have literally been looking for 3 months now!!!!!! I was just able to get some Winchester 6.5 Staball but I am still in search of the elusive H4350.
I used shootingbot in stock website to get powder and primer in stock notifications. I just got two pounds of H4350 a couple weeks ago. It has been coming in stock about once every 10 days or so
@@briansmith2616 Ok - Thank you so very much!!!!! Primers have been an issue as well.
@@stevefisher2121You are welcome, shooters need to help each other out. Primers come up consistantly also. The only downside is the hazmat fee for shipping
@@stevefisher2121 ammoseek has a reloader sectioon as well
@@briansmith2616 Yes, the hazmat fee sucks!!!!! Thank you again.
yeah would love to get my hands on some h4350. been using imr4350 and staball 6.5 since it's usually available locally
works good in the 22-250AI with 55gr and 60gr projectiles
I use 4350SC short cut version in my 260 Rem loads. 42 grains in both my model 7 and my AR-10 platform. 140 grain sierra btsp and 127 grain Barnes ttx. Use Winchester primers with Lapua brass
Just came across this video and is great. Just got my hands on this powder and wondering if anyone has used it on .308 ? Dont see it in the reload books for that cartridge
I shoot a Ruger M77 long range. Favorite load is h4350 ( 40.2g.) ,147 gr. ELD Match. Not a hot load, but 5 shot group under 1/2 inch at 100 yard. I don’t think my old eyes can do any better. Good for sub moa at 600 yards.
Great-- create additional demand for a powder that experienced reloaders already can't get their hands on..... Thanks
Those of us who are prairie dog shooters also go through a lot of loading and shooting so I would love to see more info for those of us who shoot light for calliber bullets such as 55 and 70 grain bullets for 243 and 40 and 55 grain bullets for 223 and 22 250. 😊
Would you be able to do a ladder test using H4350 on a 7mm rem. mag. ? My grandson uses H1000. Expensive along with having to use at least 10gr of more powder per round. Just wanted to compare H1000 to H4350 and see what you would come up with