i love this scene as it showed everything lydia held dear fall out of her control. she mentions in the julliard scene that the artist and art can and should be separated - that one could be an unethical person yet their art can still be admired. but in this scene, her art is essentially usurped from her, giving neither the art or the artist the recognition that she wants
Drawing the cross on the score as seen at the end of this clip is a reference to an actual event where Dmitri Mitropoulos fell dead on the podium while conducting a rehearsal of Mahler's 3rd symphony. A cellist noted the moment and marked a cross on his part where it happened.
I love how it’s made to look like Lydia is pushing herself off the podium. She’s both the aggressor and (if you look closely) the victim of the push. Amazing cinematography that captures her self-sabotage.
I realize this is a horrible thing, but bear with me: Do you think people would worry as much about the commercial viability of classical music if conductor fistfights were an occasional possibility? Think of it as Handel meets Hockey.
She did, but I don't think it was considered stolen but rather they wanted someone else to perform it because of the stain on Lydias character by this point in the film. I believe her and her wife were separated at this point in the movie as well if I remember rightly so she had no reason to tell her.
@@shadysorkin9214 to me they were on standby. They had so much love on each other. Additionally, Nina once said she did believe Sharon was up to give Lydia another chance, but she didn’t know about Lydia.
Drawing the cross on the score as seen at the end of this clip is a reference to an actual event where Dmitri Mitropoulos fell dead on the podium while conducting a rehearsal of Mahler's 3rd symphony. A cellist noted the moment and marked a cross on his part where it happened.
I finally found the comment I was looking for. I wonder the same. Sharon should have at least stood up and call Lydia’ name at loud. Probably not leaving the scenario after she was taken out but do something.
@@patrickchoque7720 how about to stand up, call her name at loud, wrap her arm, hug her, go out the room with her. I understand they were living apart but I can say the broke up wasn’t because of the lack of love from Sharon side. She actually tried hard but Lydia preferred to leave her aside.
It was her score. But its being performed by someone else because of the shitstorm surrounding Lydia at this point in the film. No one wants to associate with her after the things that came out about her, so it is being performed by someone else.
Yes. It’s her score. The problem here is that it was stolen from her house and then given to Eliot by Francesca as part of her revenge to Lydia for not choosing her as her assistant conductor.
@@jakesmith9438 Yes. It’s her score. The problem here is that it was stolen from her house and then given to Eliot by Francesca as part of her revenge to Lydia for not choosing her as her assistant conductor.
@@N8RoTH Or when Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon won and Requiem for a Dream (one of the best and most famous scores in cinema history) wasn't even nominated
Oscars aren't won they're campaigned and pandered for. Hollywood SAG and Oscars stroked all four A24 actors because of irrelevant narrative over ages of 50s and 60s, comebacks or lifetime achievement. Blanchett won 10 more awards than Michelle Yeoh all season, including Critics Choice and the UK Oscar equivalent British Academy BAFTA
@amitkenan3878 First off, I don't stroke the word Ocsar like you guys do. Most don't even know how the nomination voting, and winner voting works, or who the members are. But I wouldn't consider woah is me, boo hoo comeback, victim or lifetime achievement narratives, that all released anonymous Oscar ballots mentioned, and all expert predictors with inside info did as well.
@@amitkenan3878 First off, I don't stroke the word Oscar the way you people do. Most don't even know who the members of the academy are, or how the nomination voting, and winner voting process works. But regardless, I wouldn't base my decisions on the Woah is me, boo hoo, victim and come lback narratives that every anonymous Oscar ballot released mentioned, and every expert predictor with inside information mentioned as well, for all 4 actors
@@dragonsky799 twice. I didn’t know Mahler(or any composer) utilized off stage instruments. I didn’t know that was a thing until I looked it up. I loved Tár. Apartment for sale should have won Oscar
Yes he did. He even told her he had tried multiple times to persuade Francesca to let him spy on Lydia’s notations. Then, Francesca left and Lydia’s score was missing at home. Surprisingly or not, Eliot was performing it at the main event
There’s so many ideas happening in this movie at once and it’s a shame the director couldn’t just slow his roll and execute the climactic scene like this one with more sense. Idk it’s great performances but I feel confused about so much but maybe I’m just an idiot. I’m sure the filmmakers would think so
She is not a bad person but clearly a psychotic suffering individual.Many musical artists are like this.Anger and anxiety leads them to behave in this manner occasionally
@@MN-pz2op It’s a very interesting movie. It’s completely different from any other movie you’ve watched. Whereas other movies try to envoke Love, hatred or excitement, this movie envokes disgust. I hated watching it in the beginning but then realized this was not what I thought it was. Worth a watch? If you have spare time, definetely.
You have to work on the TikTok brain rot that's killing your attention span. Movies are allowed to take their time to set up a good story, and if you don't like that, stick to Marvel.
i love this scene as it showed everything lydia held dear fall out of her control. she mentions in the julliard scene that the artist and art can and should be separated - that one could be an unethical person yet their art can still be admired. but in this scene, her art is essentially usurped from her, giving neither the art or the artist the recognition that she wants
She is a hypocrite. She admitted attractive women into her orchestra in exchange for sexual bribes while she waved away far more talented candidates
Drawing the cross on the score as seen at the end of this clip is a reference to an actual event where Dmitri Mitropoulos fell dead on the podium while conducting a rehearsal of Mahler's 3rd symphony. A cellist noted the moment and marked a cross on his part where it happened.
wow! thanks for the explanation!
Thank you for this information
I love how it’s made to look like Lydia is pushing herself off the podium. She’s both the aggressor and (if you look closely) the victim of the push. Amazing cinematography that captures her self-sabotage.
i thought the same thing
Famm I just caught this … very much an amazing specific detail 👏🏾👏🏾
Wow that’s amazing observation
That's some excellent detail you pointed out. This film is straight up masterpiece, especially Blanchett
Cate Blanchette owns this role and has a commanding presence.
I realize this is a horrible thing, but bear with me: Do you think people would worry as much about the commercial viability of classical music if conductor fistfights were an occasional possibility? Think of it as Handel meets Hockey.
Hell yeah!! No need to smash your instruments like rockstars, just smash your stand partner’s face and start an orchestral brawl!! 😂🤣
Bernstein would spend hours at the boxing gym
*Bare
@@DGNYY27 ...it was better choise
MMA symphony? Sign me up!
What a good movie.
She thought they were just gonna keep playing 😃😄
This would totally beat the Will Smith slap if it happened for real and was broadcast live.
Tár : Keep My Score out of your F*cking Hand!!!!!!!
1:28 Cate Blanchett for Street Fighter 7 😆
At first I thought this movie was biography. I thought she was real.
OH MAH GAWD TÀR WITH THE SPEAR
THE MAN HAS A FAMILY!
1:07 it’s HER SCORE!!!!! Her name is written on the front page. IT’S HER SCOREEEEEE
yes, it is her score!
Sharon. YOU ARE NOT A VICTIM. NOT AT ALL!!
@@sakurauchiha5562 oooooh
Una de las mejores interpretaciones que pudo ver hasta el día de hoy.
Let’s be honest, if Country Road was playing, the fight would have had a different outcome completely.
El Oscar era para Cate ❤
1:07 I don’t understand how the hell her wife didn’t know he stole Lydia’s score.
She did, but I don't think it was considered stolen but rather they wanted someone else to perform it because of the stain on Lydias character by this point in the film. I believe her and her wife were separated at this point in the movie as well if I remember rightly so she had no reason to tell her.
@@shadysorkin9214 to me they were on standby. They had so much love on each other. Additionally, Nina once said she did believe Sharon was up to give Lydia another chance, but she didn’t know about Lydia.
@@sakurauchiha5562 Yeah I think it's sort of left a little ambiguous on purpose.
Shades of Barry Lyndon
Good catch, you should watch birth for LOTS more shades of the scene you’re referencing
Leggo of my Eggo!
And the wife???? Oh yeah she is in shock!
😂😂 go Kate at least she knows how to get her way😂
1:28 Cate Blanchett for Street Fighter 7 😆
Does anyone know what the marking at 1:55 means?
Drawing the cross on the score as seen at the end of this clip is a reference to an actual event where Dmitri Mitropoulos fell dead on the podium while conducting a rehearsal of Mahler's 3rd symphony. A cellist noted the moment and marked a cross on his part where it happened.
IT'S MY SCORE!
*she didn't won the Volpi Cup (Best Actress award) at Venice for nothing*
I was once in the Symphony Military Band in secondary school and this is supposed to be a performance, not a fight show.
Why didn’t her wife do anything? I mean she’s first row Violine
You want her to get smacked?
I mean what would she even do 😭 they have assumedly separated by this point in the movie
I finally found the comment I was looking for. I wonder the same. Sharon should have at least stood up and call Lydia’ name at loud. Probably not leaving the scenario after she was taken out but do something.
@@patrickchoque7720
how about to stand up, call her name at loud, wrap her arm, hug her, go out the room with her. I understand they were living apart but I can say the broke up wasn’t because of the lack of love from Sharon side. She actually tried hard but Lydia preferred to leave her aside.
@@sakurauchiha5562 she literally told her that every relationship in her life besides petra was a transaction, it was all over.
Holy $h!t
Was it really her score? Or was it in her head?
It was her score. But its being performed by someone else because of the shitstorm surrounding Lydia at this point in the film. No one wants to associate with her after the things that came out about her, so it is being performed by someone else.
Yes. It’s her score. The problem here is that it was stolen from her house and then given to Eliot by Francesca as part of her revenge to Lydia for not choosing her as her assistant conductor.
@@jakesmith9438 Yes. It’s her score. The problem here is that it was stolen from her house and then given to Eliot by Francesca as part of her revenge to Lydia for not choosing her as her assistant conductor.
When "All Quiet on the Western Front" somehow won Best Score over "Babylon" and "The Batman."
All Quiet on the Western Front deserved it
@@masterodg5406BWOM BWOM BWOOOOOOOOM yeah right
Batman shouldve won
When The Social Network beat How To Train Your Dragon
@@N8RoTH Or when Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon won and Requiem for a Dream (one of the best and most famous scores in cinema history) wasn't even nominated
It was a foreshadow to what she wanted to do when Michelle Yeoh took the trophy from Halle Berry.
Good thing Michelle Yeoh knows some Kung-Fu
Oscars aren't won they're campaigned and pandered for. Hollywood SAG and Oscars stroked all four A24 actors because of irrelevant narrative over ages of 50s and 60s, comebacks or lifetime achievement. Blanchett won 10 more awards than Michelle Yeoh all season, including Critics Choice and the UK Oscar equivalent British Academy BAFTA
@@Price70 So who would you give an Oscar to?
@amitkenan3878 First off, I don't stroke the word Ocsar like you guys do. Most don't even know how the nomination voting, and winner voting works, or who the members are. But I wouldn't consider woah is me, boo hoo comeback, victim or lifetime achievement narratives, that all released anonymous Oscar ballots mentioned, and all expert predictors with inside info did as well.
@@amitkenan3878 First off, I don't stroke the word Oscar the way you people do. Most don't even know who the members of the academy are, or how the nomination voting, and winner voting process works. But regardless, I wouldn't base my decisions on the Woah is me, boo hoo, victim and come lback narratives that every anonymous Oscar ballot released mentioned, and every expert predictor with inside information mentioned as well, for all 4 actors
I'm fine.
I'm fine
Why was the trumpet backstage?
Did you see the movie?
@@dragonsky799 twice. I didn’t know Mahler(or any composer) utilized off stage instruments. I didn’t know that was a thing until I looked it up. I loved Tár. Apartment for sale should have won Oscar
@@DGNYY27 She describes early on that she wanted the trumpet to seem like it was coming from far off in the distance. Hence why it was backstage.
@@dragonsky799 trumpeter should have stopped Linda, he had a weapon
@@DGNYY27why would a trumpeter who is focused on the music at the moment, think anything of lydia watching the orchestra from backstage
If it were the other way around, the man would've been taken away to jail IMMEDIATELY.
True. So true.
I wouldn’t say immediately
That’s because men do this all the time. It’s rare that a woman does it.
1:26 COME BACK SHANE
*UPPERCUT SOUND*
1:28 MY NAME IS NOT SHANE KID
Played Classical music / Train flies into the space.
This Looks Like Whiplash Reference But With Drums.
1:29 but he didn’t mean to steal Tár’s score.
Yes he did. He even told her he had tried multiple times to persuade Francesca to let him spy on Lydia’s notations.
Then, Francesca left and Lydia’s score was missing at home. Surprisingly or not, Eliot was performing it at the main event
@@sakurauchiha5562 ooooooooooh.
There’s so many ideas happening in this movie at once and it’s a shame the director couldn’t just slow his roll and execute the climactic scene like this one with more sense. Idk it’s great performances but I feel confused about so much but maybe I’m just an idiot. I’m sure the filmmakers would think so
Easy. It has taken me up to 17 times watching this film to actually ate it.
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She is not a bad person but clearly a psychotic suffering individual.Many musical artists are like this.Anger and anxiety leads them to behave in this manner occasionally
Not a bad person? Have you seen the movie?
@@GreekFreakyJoker No I haven’t only this scene i am really not in the mood for this at the moment watching it I mean 😂
@@kokomanation😂oh boy, i think you will rethink. The character is not good. It's a decent to hell
@@kokomanationshe is a narcissistic psychopath....watch the movie...
@GreekFreakyJoker She's no worse than everyone else around her, all of whom tolerate or encourage her behaviors until she's of no use to them.
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Least she hit him like a man
*_One of the most repulsive movies I’ve watched. The toxic domination that this movie tries to represent almost made me barf. It really is tarr._*
Do you recommend watching the film? I was thinking about watching the film these days.
@@MN-pz2op It’s a very interesting movie. It’s completely different from any other movie you’ve watched. Whereas other movies try to envoke Love, hatred or excitement, this movie envokes disgust. I hated watching it in the beginning but then realized this was not what I thought it was. Worth a watch? If you have spare time, definetely.
Go watch marvel movie boy
Huh. So something actually DOES happen in this movie that I stopped watching after 25 glacial minutes!
Stick to your instant gratification superhero slop. It's all your ADHD mind can handle.
😂😂😂😂 dumbass
You have to work on the TikTok brain rot that's killing your attention span. Movies are allowed to take their time to set up a good story, and if you don't like that, stick to Marvel.
Someone has no tolerance or appreciation for drama movies
Millennial robot
Funny scene 😂😂😂😂
What a horrible woman.
it's called good acting
@@francescomurano8038 I'm allowed to dislike a character in spite of the performance.
I think that was kind of the point.
She also threatened Johanna.
Horrible woman? Hahahahah lol xd this is called great acting, cate Blanchet is really really amazing