I had a McLane for 5 years and my neighbor had a California trimmer. He was always working on it and it always left grass on the ground, more than mine. I was always chasing the bed knife as it would distort if the frame shifted since McLane is bolted together. I tried playing with various improvements until I finally gave up and found a used 250hr JD E-cut with groomer and brush when I converted from hybrid Bermuda to Bentgrass. It was worth the investment in pissing off the neighborhood.
Thank you for the feedback and the JD mower is an awesome mower. I definitely feel your pain when your mower breaks down. Had an older Mclane to begin with and then went with cal trimmer and then bought another Mclane. Each mower is great in there own ways which is why i love the comparison. I appreciate the support and you viewing my content. 👍🏻
Zoysia grass began to naturally replace my centipede grass several years back. I gave up trying to save the centipede grass as the zoysia was just taking over. Mowing with a rotary blade was "not cutting it" so I purchased a used 20" 10 blade reel McClane. It runs great! I had it sharpened and blade height set. Gotta tell ya, this machine cuts beautifully and has help transform my front lawn. It is not set to cut golf course close, maybe 1 setting higher but it looks great when done. I am not obsessive about my yard by any means but with a little Weed and Feed, regular watering and that mower I get compliments!
Great to hear and love the 10 blade mclanes. I use to own one before the one you see in this video. It was and older model and wish i kept it to be honest. Lol. As far as a golf course look go with looks best for you on the height of cut. From what i hear zoysia is Best cut a little higher and Bermuda. I believe most people say a 1inch HOC is a good height for zoysia. I appreciate the comment and the support 👍🏻
I believe it is important to note than the Mclane Mower is manufactured in America and the other is not. It should also be noted that the roller shown in this video is not the far superior grooved roller which comes on the GR -Series mowers. The addition of any aftermarket accessory voids the manufacturer's warranty on the Mclane mower. We are all entitled to our opinion, but I have sold more than 10,000 engine-powered reel mowers during my 45 year career and the overall satisfaction ratio on the Mclane is the highest of any brand I have sold.
Thank you Mark for your feedback as you bring up a couple of really good points. I plan to do a roller video and will show my greens mower that does have the mclane roller you describe. American made is an important point and should have been brought up. Thank you for your support and viewing my content.
@@dwaynesworldlawn I own Dolphin Outdoor Power Equipment, Inc. , a wholesale lawn & garden equipment distributor in business for 38+ years. We sell to primarily to dealers, but also to golf courses, municipalities, and to homeowners via e-commerce since 1999. We have sold many thousands of several brands of reel mowers, and trust me, no one but us knows what percentage is of one brand or another. Our history as the largest distributor of McLane Reel Mowers has been a very positive experience. McLane Mowers consistently provide our customers with the highest customer satisfaction rating and the lowest warranty ratio of any reel mower brand we have ever sold. This is how we comprehensively and factually compare and rate a product line within the OPE industry. If there was a better Reel Mower than McLane, we would be selling that instead. Regarding aftermarket accessories. we have represented more than 20 well-known brands of outdoor power equipment, and most all of them void their warranty when any aftermarket item is installed. This is done to protect the reliability and longevity of the machine. Many hours of development and testing are required by factory qualified engineers to make even the smallest changes to a mower without affecting it's overall performance. A reel mower must cut very evenly and smoothly and is much more sensitive to alterations than a typical rotary-type mower. This is not our warranty policy, but the policy of just about every mower manufacturer in business today. Lastly, anyone can easily order original McLane replacement parts by calling (800) 992-0177 or visiting the parts department at DolphinOPE.com. We prefer to have our customers email of fax us their parts orders, as this greatly reduces ordering errors and shipping mistakes. In closing, I would like to note that if you ask 10 folks on the internet a question about reel mowers, you're likely to get 11 different opinions, and sometimes none of them are true. Please understand that these respondents are in many different geographical locations, have many different types of turf, have very limited knowledge, or may be just wanting to sell you something. We suggest you always seek the advice of a qualified professional, visit our website at: McLaneReelMowers.com or email us at: Mclane@DolphinOPE.com with your questions.
McLane has HORRIBLE Customer Service Management & Support. And just how are these allegedly "Made In America" when their engines are made in Thailand ? Their advertisements shamefully talk trash about the competition for using foreign parts, and yet on McLane’s, the most complex and the most important part of the mower is built by Honda of Thailand? There’s no way to check where the parts are from, but you can see they look like they’re from a third world country. I can only believe they continue to keep their doors open solely using FALSE ADVERTISING and Unethical Business practices. Because its been my experience that’s how McLane operates daily. These guys are LIARS and THIEVES ! Just notice there aren’t ANY reviews on McLane’s website. Now it’s obvious why! BUYER BEWARE !! AVOID McLane Lawn & Garden Equipment. In my opinion, even IF they were once Made in the USA, (they’re NOT now ) they give "Made In America" such a bad reputation, they'll make you wish you'd bought something "Made In China" instead ! They are an embarrassment to the lawn equipment manufacturing industry, and to American companies in general.
Excellent comparison, thank you! I'm trying to decide between the two. Sounds insane that I would purchase such an expensive mower for 1700 sqft lawn, but I just can't get my Zoysia to look good with my rotary so I'm going to give this a shot. Leaning towards the CT for price, ease of bed knife adjustment, clutch, and because my yard is a long rectangle so I will be turning quite often. It also comes with a Honda, which you did not mention on your video, would you say the Honda engine vs the Briggs is an important consideration?
I didn’t compare the motors just because you could buy either with a Briggs or Honda motor so i felt the purchase could have either option. If price were the same for both i would choose the Honda motor by far. I definitely would say the Honda gx120 motor is my favorite motor on any lawn equipment. The Honda gx160 is more powerful but much louder in my opnion. During the is shortage of the Honda gx120 motors i know cal trimmer did offer the Honda gx160 motor in its place at the same price. The cal trimmer is truly an awesome mower and know you will be happy with your purchase. The only draw back i would say is the grass catcher as it doesn’t do as good of a job catching clippings as the Mclane does. This may be a mute point if you don’t generally catch clipping but something to consider. Another big change that was not the case at the time i made the video is the price. From what i am hearing the Mclane is much more expensive then the cal trimmer these days and would be something i would mention if i did the video today. Based on that fact i would lean towards the cal trimmer if i were choosing between the 2 today. Thank for you question/comment and appreciate the support 👍🏻
I finished a backlap on my CalTrimmer for the first time. All I can is -- that was easy! My McLane is way more difficult to resharpen. The McLane is now the backup mower and My CalTrim is now #1 on my lawn.
Good review. I just got the CT 20 7 blade with the Honda a few weeks ago. I got it because of the cheaper parts and the reel to bed knife adjustment. CT sent me the new chain adjustment system and just got the bar extension kit which raises the bar height by 4". Nice review.
Great review and comparison. However, I think you should also discussed initial cost of both mowers. The McLane is $600 - $700 more than a California Trimmer. Also McLane sells a 20-inch mower with a Honda Engine, listed in their website for $2,170. Because of the purchase price is the reason that I choose a Cal Trimmer.
It’s a good point, especially in this economy. I would say when i purchased my cal trimmer a couple of years back Mclane were only about 2-300 more and not 6-700. In either event i may do another comparison video in the future and will definitely mention price. Appreciate the comment and support 👍🏻
Great review. Mark makes a great point about the CT now being manufactured over seas. I personally have both mowers and something not mentioned, which also surprised me we’re the impressions left in my soil from the CT narrow rear wheels. If your soil has any moisture in it, the CT leaves impressions which is a huge let down when you consider how much time we spend trying to level our lawns. I think the aftermarket comment is nonsense. It’s like saying if I put Goodyear tires on my truck vs the factory BFG’s my vehicle warranty is void. Also, 75% of those “10,000” mowers were actually Tru Cut’s Mark sold. I do look forward to a review with a Tru Cut in the mix! I think then, there will be a definitive winner. The last factor which we get to experience daily, is the lack of support from both companies. You have to send a “fax” to get mclane parts and Trimmer has made getting the right part impossible because they have so many conflicting models (commercial, homeowner, high cut, normal cut, pre 2003 vs post 2014. It’s a mess. Great review, good stuff your doing here Dwayne.
I don’t have the issues with the soil conditions where i live but can see it being an issue in Other parts of the country and can definitely see your point. I do have plans to get a trucut in the mix, but it will be a loaner… unless you want to send me a sample i wouldn’t complain. Lol 😂. Thank you for your awesome comments and really appreciate it. Also thank you for all you do at reel rollers as many of the viewer are huge fans of your product. Goes without saying that reel rollers in made in the USA 🇺🇸 👍🏻
Awesome comparison, I dont have a cali trimmer but I also don't regret getting the McClane. The only thing I would change about the McClane is the roller. The OEM roller is garbage and its better to replace it with the one from reel rollers.
@@dwaynesworldlawn i like that that the reel roller allows me to get down to 0.25 inches. The OEM roller only allowed me to reach 0.75. In order for me to go lower I would have to lower the rear axle which is a pain.
You see a lot of Mclanes for sale these days, and its hard to find a Cal Trimmer up for sale just about anywhere. Had a Cal and will be purchasing a new one here soon, pissed that I sold it.
I have had friends just like you where they had a cal trimmer, sold it and then rebought another. I can’t imagine selling mine as it has been a great mower for me!!! 👍🏻
@@davidfournier3355 if you makes you feel better i purchased my for about $1400 including tax with no roller about 4 years ago. The fact that it only is a hundred or 2 over r that with the rate that everything has went up in price, it’s a good deal. 👍🏻
I've owned a California Trimmer since 1968. I bought a McClain six years ago. Because of problems with bed knife, the mower not moving uphill, and bearings wearing out I pulled the old Cal Trimmer out of the barn, installed a new bed knife, New electric start engine, new chains and I now wonder why I quit using it. The bearings last forever if maintained, you maintain the bearings on the McClain by replacing them. you maintain the bearings on the Trimmer by applying grease. My Trimmer just turned 51 years old.
Thank you for the video. I was only considering the mclane 25" and the price was deterring me to spend the money. Now seeing that i should have been looking at the 20" the whole time since price is driving it for me, I am probably going for the CT as it around the same price with the honda engine as the mclane is with the B&S. Can you link where you recommend getting that split front roller?
Are you purchasing your cal trimmer from a Dealer ? If so they may be able to help if you prefer that specific dealer. If not you can reach out to Scott at Triangle reel mowers. TriangleReelMowers.com. Also Zampree.com also sells them. Some people also really like the grooved roller from reel rollers but it’s not a split design. Thank you for the comment and appreciate you support!!!!
@@andyespenan5919 I actually purchase my cal trimmer at Home Depot as well. I believe you will be happy with your purchase and can’t go wrong with the Honda gx motor. The Honda gx120 motor is my favorite as it is very quiet. I know some cal trimmer were starting to come with the Honda gx160 at the same price as normally the gx160 cost more but the supply for the gx120 is very low. I’m glad i was able to help and appreciate you checking out my RUclips channel. More content to come 👍🏻
Andy, PLEASE don't make the mistake I made getting talked into a new McLane Mower in 2023. WHY? Because McLane's New $2400.00 25" Reel Mowers are quite simply, terribly designed, built using Inferior parts, poorly assembled by unskilled labor. They are JUNK. HERE’S WHAT YOU CAN EXPECT: Misalignment issues, Annoying Rattles and Vibration Noises at different RPM's, Metal Fatigue, and cracks that develop within the first few weeks, caused by HORRIBLE welding during manufacturing (that gets covered up with paint at the factory), then they slap on some stickers (crooked) with their name and deliver these piss-poor mowers to customers. The only Guaranty that you can count on is you'll have Multiple Failures with several vital safety covers, shields and critical support parts within its first season. And that's even if it's only for single residential use ! HORRIBLE Customer Service Management & Support. And just exactly how are these allegedly "Made In America" when their engines are made in Thailand ? Their advertisements shamefully talk trash about the competition for using foreign parts, and yet on McLane’s, the most complex and the most important part of the mower is built by Honda of Thailand? There’s no way to check where the parts are from, but you can see they look like they’re from a third world country. I can only believe they continue to keep their doors open solely using FALSE ADVERTISING and Unethical Business practices. Because its been my experience that’s how McLane operates daily. These guys are LIARS and THIEVES ! Just notice there aren’t ANY reviews on McLane’s website. Now it’s obvious why! BUYER BEWARE !! AVOID McLane Lawn & Garden Equipment. In my opinion, even IF they were once Made in the USA, (they’re NOT now ) they give "Made In America" such a bad reputation, they'll make you wish you'd bought something "Made In China" instead ! They are an embarrassment to the lawn equipment manufacturing industry, and to American companies in general.
Great review. I own both. Some observations: The cal trimmer goes up my STEEP hill better, not sure why? it just does. The Mclane's back drive tires wear out pretty darn quick. You don't hear many people replacing the drive tire on the cal trimmer. The Mclane is MUCH easier to roll. if you were older or want something that has little rolling resistance, it's the Mclane. The cal trimmer feels like a tank. Feels heavier. (not sure if it is?). In my eyes, zerk fittings are a good thing. Cal trimmer needs to make the drive-wheel height adjustment better. it needs to have the height adjustment kit installed as a standard option. The Mclane is SLOW. Wish it was faster, just my opinion. Mclane is more fun, the Cal Trimmer is what I use more, however.
I really appreciate your comments and definitely understand your POV. There are so many details can compare with each of the mowers which is why i love the comparison. Thank you so much for support and appreciate you watching and enjoying the video 👍🏻
The 25 inch is different. It’s considered a commercial mower. Major difference is that it didn’t use a clutch system, and reel to bedknife adjustment is not the same. I’ve never used one but people say speed it very fast and non adjustable. Thank you for your feedback and support in watching the content 👍🏻
I would not say so. The nice thing about the cal trimmer is that they are less expensive when they need to be replaced as you only need to swap out the blade vs the entire assembly in the Mclane. What can damage the bedknife and this has nothing to do with the brand is that you are careful and only mow grass. This sounds obvious but it important to take steps to ensure you are not mowing twigs, rocks, debri. This will ensure you get the most out of your reel and bedknife. Appreciate the question and the support 👍🏻
PLEASE don't make the mistake I made getting talked into a new McLane Mower in 2023. WHY? Because McLane's New $2400.00 25" Reel Mowers are quite simply, terribly designed, built using Inferior parts, poorly assembled by unskilled labor. They are JUNK. HERE’S WHAT YOU CAN EXPECT: Misalignment issues, Annoying Rattles and Vibration Noises at different RPM's, Metal Fatigue, and cracks that develop within the first few weeks, caused by HORRIBLE welding during manufacturing (that gets covered up with paint at the factory), then they slap on some stickers (crooked) with their name and deliver these piss-poor mowers to customers. The only Guaranty that you can count on is you'll have Multiple Failures with several vital safety covers, shields and critical support parts within its first season. And that's even if it's only for single residential use ! HORRIBLE Customer Service Management & Support. They DO NOT honor their one year warranty even when it fails due to defective parts and poor workmanship. And just how are these allegedly "Made In America" when their engines are made in Thailand ? Their advertisements shamefully talk trash about the competition for using foreign parts, and yet on McLane’s, the most complex and the most important part of the mower is built by Honda of Thailand? There’s no way to check where the parts are from, but you can see they look like they’re from a third world country. I can only believe they continue to keep their doors open solely using FALSE ADVERTISING and Unethical Business practices. Because its been my experience that’s how McLane operates daily. These guys are LIARS and THIEVES ! Just notice there aren’t ANY reviews on McLane’s website. Now it’s obvious why! BUYER BEWARE !! AVOID McLane Lawn & Garden Equipment. In my opinion, even IF they were once Made in the USA, (they’re NOT now ) they give "Made In America" such a bad reputation, they'll make you wish you'd bought something "Made In China" instead ! They are an embarrassment to the lawn equipment manufacturing industry, and to American companies in general.
The actual backlap process is the same level of difficulty. However, if you add the adjustment to reel to the process which it normally would be, California trimmer for sure takes the win.
I've watched and am just as confused. Which one do think is easier to maneuver around. My wife will probably want to use once we get one and I know ease of use will be a big item.
They both handle really well and wouldn’t say one is much better than the other as it relates to moving around. The handle bar on the Mclane has more of a natural hand position in my option but would say the cal trimmer is a smoother operating mower. This is because the cal trimmer use a clutch system that has a smoother feeling when propelling forward. Hope this helps and appreciate the question 👍🏻
PLEASE don't make the mistake I made getting talked into a new McLane Mower in 2023. WHY? Because McLane's New $2400.00 25" Reel Mowers are quite simply, terribly designed, built using Inferior parts, poorly assembled by unskilled labor. They are JUNK. HERE’S WHAT YOU CAN EXPECT: Misalignment issues, Annoying Rattles and Vibration Noises at different RPM's, Metal Fatigue, and cracks that develop within the first few weeks, caused by HORRIBLE welding during manufacturing (that gets covered up with paint at the factory), then they slap on some stickers (crooked) with their name and deliver these piss-poor mowers to customers. The only Guaranty that you can count on is you'll have Multiple Failures with several vital safety covers, shields and critical support parts within its first season. And that's even if it's only for single residential use ! HORRIBLE Customer Service Management & Support. And just how are these allegedly "Made In America" when their engines are made in Thailand ? Their advertisements shamefully talk trash about the competition for using foreign parts, and yet on McLane’s, the most complex and the most important part of the mower is built by Honda of Thailand? There’s no way to check where the parts are from, but you can see they look like they’re from a third world country. I can only believe they continue to keep their doors open solely using FALSE ADVERTISING and Unethical Business practices. Because its been my experience that’s how McLane operates daily. These guys are LIARS and THIEVES ! Just notice there aren’t ANY reviews on McLane’s website. Now it’s obvious why! BUYER BEWARE !! AVOID McLane Lawn & Garden Equipment. In my opinion, even IF they were once Made in the USA, (they’re NOT now ) they give "Made In America" such a bad reputation, they'll make you wish you'd bought something "Made In China" instead ! They are an embarrassment to the lawn equipment manufacturing industry, and to American companies in general.
My McLane caster wheels blew out in just a few weeks of owning it, and it was a NIGHTMARE to get them replaced. Like months and months of back and forth with customer service and a repair man. McLane hugely failed by using plastic wheels. I'm afraid they are going to fail again, to be honest. It looks like they are finally using metal wheels now. Is that correct?
I am not positive on whether they have switched back to metal from plastic. I know the 25 inch still uses steel wheels. Sorry to hear about your horrible experience. I know a lot of people have complained about the plastic wheels and was not a good move by Mclane to switch over to save cost. It sounds like they at least got them fixed and hopefully the next ones last you for a long time. I appreciate the question and will respond back if i gather more information on if they are selling them new again with steel wheels. 👍🏻
What year is your McClane? I just received mine yesterday and was completely disappointed that it came with plastic wheels. Plastic wheels on a $2k mower... I would have never bought it had I known.
I am not sure what year but my guess is around 2010-2012. I purchased it on the 2nd hand market. It was new but a strange story. The person bought it for his dad and never gave it to him and it sat for 6 years in his garage before he sold it. I was truly surprised it had the steel wheels vs plastic expecting the plastic ones. I do have a video on my channel showing an overview of my mower and included some of those details in the comparison video. I’m sorry to hear about your disappointment on the wheels. I do appreciate the comment and support 👍🏻
@@roberth.1721 don’t be to dissapointed i would be happy with the mower you have. I’m sure it will cut great as long as you keep the blades sharp and only mow grass. Lol not rocks and branches. Lol
☀This is a very thorough video on comparing the two. I've been considering getting a decent used one for scalping purposes and such. I like the Honda engine, can't beat them.
Honda is definitely the way to go. I would say that i had the same thought in the past where i thought, let me get it for scalping. What happens next, i ended up setting it up so nice i don’t want to use it for that purpose anymore. Lol
The 25 CT is different as it is a commercial mower. It doesn’t have the same clutch system that is on the 20 inch. I’m sure you’ll do your research and appreciate the feedback 👍🏻
@@dwaynesworldlawn That's roughly my area as well. How long does it take just to cut with the 20"? I am thinking a 25" probably should take a bit faster, but how much faster...thanks.
@@golfshoe9321 Rough Guess. If I do just a single pass probably 30-40 minutes. When you include edging and blowing prob close to an hour. If I double cut its even longer. There are a lot of people that say you will finish alot faster with a 25 and can't say I 100 percent agree. I have a 25 in Greens keeper and it still take just as long. I think a 25 inch will provide nicer fatter stripes and will also be more forgiving on an uneven lawn due to the larger roller or width. Hope that helps...
I had a McLane for 5 years and my neighbor had a California trimmer. He was always working on it and it always left grass on the ground, more than mine. I was always chasing the bed knife as it would distort if the frame shifted since McLane is bolted together. I tried playing with various improvements until I finally gave up and found a used 250hr JD E-cut with groomer and brush when I converted from hybrid Bermuda to Bentgrass. It was worth the investment in pissing off the neighborhood.
Thank you for the feedback and the JD mower is an awesome mower. I definitely feel your pain when your mower breaks down. Had an older Mclane to begin with and then went with cal trimmer and then bought another Mclane. Each mower is great in there own ways which is why i love the comparison. I appreciate the support and you viewing my content. 👍🏻
Great comparison Dwayne!
Glad you liked it
Zoysia grass began to naturally replace my centipede grass several years back. I gave up trying to save the centipede grass as the zoysia was just taking over. Mowing with a rotary blade was "not cutting it" so I purchased a used 20" 10 blade reel McClane. It runs great! I had it sharpened and blade height set. Gotta tell ya, this machine cuts beautifully and has help transform my front lawn. It is not set to cut golf course close, maybe 1 setting higher but it looks great when done. I am not obsessive about my yard by any means but with a little Weed and Feed, regular watering and that mower I get compliments!
Great to hear and love the 10 blade mclanes. I use to own one before the one you see in this video. It was and older model and wish i kept it to be honest. Lol. As far as a golf course look go with looks best for you on the height of cut. From what i hear zoysia is Best cut a little higher and Bermuda. I believe most people say a 1inch HOC is a good height for zoysia. I appreciate the comment and the support 👍🏻
I believe it is important to note than the Mclane Mower is manufactured in America and the other is not. It should also be noted that the roller shown in this video is not the far superior grooved roller which comes on the GR -Series mowers. The addition of any aftermarket accessory voids the manufacturer's warranty on the Mclane mower. We are all entitled to our opinion, but I have sold more than 10,000 engine-powered reel mowers during my 45 year career and the overall satisfaction ratio on the Mclane is the highest of any brand I have sold.
Thank you Mark for your feedback as you bring up a couple of really good points. I plan to do a roller video and will show my greens mower that does have the mclane roller you describe. American made is an important point and should have been brought up. Thank you for your support and viewing my content.
@@dwaynesworldlawn I own Dolphin Outdoor Power Equipment, Inc. , a wholesale lawn & garden equipment distributor in business for 38+ years. We sell to primarily to dealers, but also to golf courses, municipalities, and to homeowners via e-commerce since 1999. We have sold many thousands of several brands of reel mowers, and trust me, no one but us knows what percentage is of one brand or another. Our history as the largest distributor of McLane Reel Mowers has been a very positive experience. McLane Mowers consistently provide our customers with the highest customer satisfaction rating and the lowest warranty ratio of any reel mower brand we have ever sold. This is how we comprehensively and factually compare and rate a product line within the OPE industry. If there was a better Reel Mower than McLane, we would be selling that instead.
Regarding aftermarket accessories. we have represented more than 20 well-known brands of outdoor power equipment, and most all of them void their warranty when any aftermarket item is installed. This is done to protect the reliability and longevity of the machine. Many hours of development and testing are required by factory qualified engineers to make even the smallest changes to a mower without affecting it's overall performance. A reel mower must cut very evenly and smoothly and is much more sensitive to alterations than a typical rotary-type mower. This is not our warranty policy, but the policy of just about every mower manufacturer in business today. Lastly, anyone can easily order original McLane replacement parts by calling (800) 992-0177 or visiting the parts department at DolphinOPE.com. We prefer to have our customers email of fax us their parts orders, as this greatly reduces ordering errors and shipping mistakes.
In closing, I would like to note that if you ask 10 folks on the internet a question about reel mowers, you're likely to get 11 different opinions, and sometimes none of them are true. Please understand that these respondents are in many different geographical locations, have many different types of turf, have very limited knowledge, or may be just wanting to sell you something. We suggest you always seek the advice of a qualified professional, visit our website at: McLaneReelMowers.com or email us at: Mclane@DolphinOPE.com with your questions.
Who do you sell for?
McLane has HORRIBLE Customer Service Management & Support.
And just how are these allegedly "Made In America" when their engines are made in Thailand ?
Their advertisements shamefully talk trash about the competition for using foreign parts, and yet on McLane’s, the most complex and the most important part of the mower is built by Honda of Thailand?
There’s no way to check where the parts are from, but you can see they look like they’re from a third world country.
I can only believe they continue to keep their doors open solely using FALSE ADVERTISING and Unethical Business practices. Because its been my experience that’s how McLane operates daily. These guys are LIARS and THIEVES !
Just notice there aren’t ANY reviews on McLane’s website. Now it’s obvious why!
BUYER BEWARE !! AVOID McLane Lawn & Garden Equipment.
In my opinion, even IF they were once Made in the USA, (they’re NOT now ) they give "Made In America" such a bad reputation, they'll make you wish you'd bought something "Made In China" instead !
They are an embarrassment to the lawn equipment manufacturing industry, and to American companies in general.
I believe it too note American made
Made in Another country.
Who cares. As long as it's made with quality over quantity
Excellent comparison, thank you! I'm trying to decide between the two. Sounds insane that I would purchase such an expensive mower for 1700 sqft lawn, but I just can't get my Zoysia to look good with my rotary so I'm going to give this a shot. Leaning towards the CT for price, ease of bed knife adjustment, clutch, and because my yard is a long rectangle so I will be turning quite often. It also comes with a Honda, which you did not mention on your video, would you say the Honda engine vs the Briggs is an important consideration?
I didn’t compare the motors just because you could buy either with a Briggs or Honda motor so i felt the purchase could have either option. If price were the same for both i would choose the Honda motor by far. I definitely would say the Honda gx120 motor is my favorite motor on any lawn equipment. The Honda gx160 is more powerful but much louder in my opnion. During the is shortage of the Honda gx120 motors i know cal trimmer did offer the Honda gx160 motor in its place at the same price. The cal trimmer is truly an awesome mower and know you will be happy with your purchase. The only draw back i would say is the grass catcher as it doesn’t do as good of a job catching clippings as the Mclane does. This may be a mute point if you don’t generally catch clipping but something to consider. Another big change that was not the case at the time i made the video is the price. From what i am hearing the Mclane is much more expensive then the cal trimmer these days and would be something i would mention if i did the video today. Based on that fact i would lean towards the cal trimmer if i were choosing between the 2 today. Thank for you question/comment and appreciate the support 👍🏻
I finished a backlap on my CalTrimmer for the first time. All I can is -- that was easy! My McLane is way more difficult to resharpen. The McLane is now the backup mower and My CalTrim is now #1 on my lawn.
Nice!!! Those reel to adjustment knobs make it so easy. Glad it worked out !!! 👍🏻
Good review. I just got the CT 20 7 blade with the Honda a few weeks ago. I got it because of the cheaper parts and the reel to bed knife adjustment. CT sent me the new chain adjustment system and just got the bar extension kit which raises the bar height by 4". Nice review.
Thank you Bruce… i know you will be happy with your purchase. Thank you for your support in watching my content 👍🏻
Great review and comparison. However, I think you should also discussed initial cost of both mowers. The McLane is $600 - $700 more than a California Trimmer. Also McLane sells a 20-inch mower with a Honda Engine, listed in their website for $2,170. Because of the purchase price is the reason that I choose a Cal Trimmer.
It’s a good point, especially in this economy. I would say when i purchased my cal trimmer a couple of years back Mclane were only about 2-300 more and not 6-700. In either event i may do another comparison video in the future and will definitely mention price. Appreciate the comment and support 👍🏻
Great review. Mark makes a great point about the CT now being manufactured over seas. I personally have both mowers and something not mentioned, which also surprised me we’re the impressions left in my soil from the CT narrow rear wheels. If your soil has any moisture in it, the CT leaves impressions which is a huge let down when you consider how much time we spend trying to level our lawns.
I think the aftermarket comment is nonsense. It’s like saying if I put Goodyear tires on my truck vs the factory BFG’s my vehicle warranty is void. Also, 75% of those “10,000” mowers were actually Tru Cut’s Mark sold.
I do look forward to a review with a Tru Cut in the mix! I think then, there will be a definitive winner.
The last factor which we get to experience daily, is the lack of support from both companies. You have to send a “fax” to get mclane parts and Trimmer has made getting the right part impossible because they have so many conflicting models (commercial, homeowner, high cut, normal cut, pre 2003 vs post 2014. It’s a mess.
Great review, good stuff your doing here Dwayne.
I don’t have the issues with the soil conditions where i live but can see it being an issue in Other parts of the country and can definitely see your point. I do have plans to get a trucut in the mix, but it will be a loaner… unless you want to send me a sample i wouldn’t complain. Lol 😂. Thank you for your awesome comments and really appreciate it. Also thank you for all you do at reel rollers as many of the viewer are huge fans of your product. Goes without saying that reel rollers in made in the USA 🇺🇸 👍🏻
Awesome comparison, I dont have a cali trimmer but I also don't regret getting the McClane. The only thing I would change about the McClane is the roller. The OEM roller is garbage and its better to replace it with the one from reel rollers.
I have heard mixed opinions on it. Good and bad. I appreciate your support and comment 👍🏻
@@dwaynesworldlawn i like that that the reel roller allows me to get down to 0.25 inches. The OEM roller only allowed me to reach 0.75. In order for me to go lower I would have to lower the rear axle which is a pain.
Yes, great point 👍🏻 reel rollers roller takes your hoc down to 1/2 which wouldn’t be possible with the oem roller.
You see a lot of Mclanes for sale these days, and its hard to find a Cal Trimmer up for sale just about anywhere. Had a Cal and will be purchasing a new one here soon, pissed that I sold it.
I have had friends just like you where they had a cal trimmer, sold it and then rebought another. I can’t imagine selling mine as it has been a great mower for me!!! 👍🏻
@@dwaynesworldlawn Trust me when I tell you..That was a bone head move I my part! Now I have to fork over at least $1500 clams for a new one😔
@@davidfournier3355 if you makes you feel better i purchased my for about $1400 including tax with no roller about 4 years ago. The fact that it only is a hundred or 2 over r that with the rate that everything has went up in price, it’s a good deal. 👍🏻
Do you recommend the 20” CT over the 25” CT for 12000sqft Bermuda?
@@kyled159 Sorry for the late reply, I would go with the larger reel if you can, especially with that size yard.
I've owned a California Trimmer since 1968. I bought a McClain six years ago. Because of problems with bed knife, the mower not moving uphill, and bearings wearing out I pulled the old Cal Trimmer out of the barn, installed a new bed knife, New electric start engine, new chains and I now wonder why I quit using it. The bearings last forever if maintained, you maintain the bearings on the McClain by replacing them. you maintain the bearings on the Trimmer by applying grease. My Trimmer just turned 51 years old.
California trimmers are an awesome mower with years behind them to prove it. Quality at a very competitive price. Thank you for your support
Thank you for the video. I was only considering the mclane 25" and the price was deterring me to spend the money. Now seeing that i should have been looking at the 20" the whole time since price is driving it for me, I am probably going for the CT as it around the same price with the honda engine as the mclane is with the B&S. Can you link where you recommend getting that split front roller?
Are you purchasing your cal trimmer from a
Dealer ? If so they may be able to help if you prefer that specific dealer. If not you can reach out to Scott at Triangle reel mowers. TriangleReelMowers.com. Also Zampree.com also sells them. Some people also really like the grooved roller from reel rollers but it’s not a split design. Thank you for the comment and appreciate you support!!!!
@@dwaynesworldlawn Looks like Home Depot since others ship via freight truck and dont want to pay 50$ more for lift gate service
@@andyespenan5919 I actually purchase my cal trimmer at Home Depot as well. I believe you will be happy with your purchase and can’t go wrong with the Honda gx motor. The Honda gx120 motor is my favorite as it is very quiet. I know some cal trimmer were starting to come with the Honda gx160 at the same price as normally the gx160 cost more but the supply for the gx120 is very low. I’m glad i was able to help and appreciate you checking out my RUclips channel. More content to come 👍🏻
Andy, PLEASE don't make the mistake I made getting talked into a new McLane Mower in 2023. WHY?
Because McLane's New $2400.00 25" Reel Mowers are quite simply, terribly designed, built using Inferior parts, poorly assembled by unskilled labor. They are JUNK.
HERE’S WHAT YOU CAN EXPECT: Misalignment issues, Annoying Rattles and Vibration Noises at different RPM's, Metal Fatigue, and cracks that develop within the first few weeks, caused by HORRIBLE welding during manufacturing (that gets covered up with paint at the factory), then they slap on some stickers (crooked) with their name and deliver these piss-poor mowers to customers.
The only Guaranty that you can count on is you'll have Multiple Failures with several vital safety covers, shields and critical support parts within its first season. And that's even if it's only for single residential use !
HORRIBLE Customer Service Management & Support.
And just exactly how are these allegedly "Made In America" when their engines are made in Thailand ?
Their advertisements shamefully talk trash about the competition for using foreign parts, and yet on McLane’s, the most complex and the most important part of the mower is built by Honda of Thailand?
There’s no way to check where the parts are from, but you can see they look like they’re from a third world country.
I can only believe they continue to keep their doors open solely using FALSE ADVERTISING and Unethical Business practices.
Because its been my experience that’s how McLane operates daily. These guys are LIARS and THIEVES !
Just notice there aren’t ANY reviews on McLane’s website. Now it’s obvious why!
BUYER BEWARE !! AVOID McLane Lawn & Garden Equipment.
In my opinion, even IF they were once Made in the USA, (they’re NOT now ) they give "Made In America" such a bad reputation, they'll make you wish you'd bought something "Made In China" instead !
They are an embarrassment to the lawn equipment manufacturing industry, and to American companies in general.
@@seattlecam1 got the CT. Thanks
Great review. I own both. Some observations: The cal trimmer goes up my STEEP hill better, not sure why? it just does. The Mclane's back drive tires wear out pretty darn quick. You don't hear many people replacing the drive tire on the cal trimmer. The Mclane is MUCH easier to roll. if you were older or want something that has little rolling resistance, it's the Mclane. The cal trimmer feels like a tank. Feels heavier. (not sure if it is?). In my eyes, zerk fittings are a good thing. Cal trimmer needs to make the drive-wheel height adjustment better. it needs to have the height adjustment kit installed as a standard option. The Mclane is SLOW. Wish it was faster, just my opinion. Mclane is more fun, the Cal Trimmer is what I use more, however.
I really appreciate your comments and definitely understand your POV. There are so many details can compare with each of the mowers which is why i love the comparison. Thank you so much for support and appreciate you watching and enjoying the video 👍🏻
You just made it ten times more confusing 😕
@@peteywheatstraw9846 only 10 times ? Lol. Didn’t mean to. Appreciate the comment !!! 👍🏻
Excellent comparison video, thank you sooo much for putting this together! In your experience, does 25” versions compare similarly for homeowner?
The 25 inch is different. It’s considered a commercial mower. Major difference is that it didn’t use a clutch system, and reel to bedknife adjustment is not the same. I’ve never used one but people say speed it very fast and non adjustable. Thank you for your feedback and support in watching the content 👍🏻
Excellent review. Two middle weights going at it 🙌
Awesome comparison
Thank you Leo!!! Appreciate the support
Excellent video thank you
Thank you!!! I appreciate the support! 👍🏻
Are the McLane bed knifes better quality?
I would not say so. The nice thing about the cal trimmer is that they are less expensive when they need to be replaced as you only need to swap out the blade vs the entire assembly in the Mclane. What can damage the bedknife and this has nothing to do with the brand is that you are careful and only mow grass. This sounds obvious but it important to take steps to ensure you are not mowing twigs, rocks, debri. This will ensure you get the most out of your reel and bedknife. Appreciate the question and the support 👍🏻
PLEASE don't make the mistake I made getting talked into a new McLane Mower in 2023. WHY?
Because McLane's New $2400.00 25" Reel Mowers are quite simply, terribly designed, built using Inferior parts, poorly assembled by unskilled labor. They are JUNK.
HERE’S WHAT YOU CAN EXPECT: Misalignment issues, Annoying Rattles and Vibration Noises at different RPM's, Metal Fatigue, and cracks that develop within the first few weeks, caused by HORRIBLE welding during manufacturing (that gets covered up with paint at the factory), then they slap on some stickers (crooked) with their name and deliver these piss-poor mowers to customers.
The only Guaranty that you can count on is you'll have Multiple Failures with several vital safety covers, shields and critical support parts within its first season. And that's even if it's only for single residential use !
HORRIBLE Customer Service Management & Support. They DO NOT honor their one year warranty even when it fails due to defective parts and poor workmanship.
And just how are these allegedly "Made In America" when their engines are made in Thailand ?
Their advertisements shamefully talk trash about the competition for using foreign parts, and yet on McLane’s, the most complex and the most important part of the mower is built by Honda of Thailand?
There’s no way to check where the parts are from, but you can see they look like they’re from a third world country.
I can only believe they continue to keep their doors open solely using FALSE ADVERTISING and Unethical Business practices. Because its been my experience that’s how McLane operates daily. These guys are LIARS and THIEVES !
Just notice there aren’t ANY reviews on McLane’s website. Now it’s obvious why!
BUYER BEWARE !! AVOID McLane Lawn & Garden Equipment.
In my opinion, even IF they were once Made in the USA, (they’re NOT now ) they give "Made In America" such a bad reputation, they'll make you wish you'd bought something "Made In China" instead !
They are an embarrassment to the lawn equipment manufacturing industry, and to American companies in general.
Which one is easier for backlapeping
The actual backlap process is the same level of difficulty. However, if you add the adjustment to reel to the process which it normally would be, California trimmer for sure takes the win.
I've watched and am just as confused. Which one do think is easier to maneuver around. My wife will probably want to use once we get one and I know ease of use will be a big item.
They both handle really well and wouldn’t say one is much better than the other as it relates to moving around. The handle bar on the Mclane has more of a natural hand position in my option but would say the cal trimmer is a smoother operating mower. This is because the cal trimmer use a clutch system that has a smoother feeling when propelling forward. Hope this helps and appreciate the question 👍🏻
PLEASE don't make the mistake I made getting talked into a new McLane Mower in 2023. WHY?
Because McLane's New $2400.00 25" Reel Mowers are quite simply, terribly designed, built using Inferior parts, poorly assembled by unskilled labor. They are JUNK.
HERE’S WHAT YOU CAN EXPECT: Misalignment issues, Annoying Rattles and Vibration Noises at different RPM's, Metal Fatigue, and cracks that develop within the first few weeks, caused by HORRIBLE welding during manufacturing (that gets covered up with paint at the factory), then they slap on some stickers (crooked) with their name and deliver these piss-poor mowers to customers.
The only Guaranty that you can count on is you'll have Multiple Failures with several vital safety covers, shields and critical support parts within its first season. And that's even if it's only for single residential use !
HORRIBLE Customer Service Management & Support.
And just how are these allegedly "Made In America" when their engines are made in Thailand ?
Their advertisements shamefully talk trash about the competition for using foreign parts, and yet on McLane’s, the most complex and the most important part of the mower is built by Honda of Thailand? There’s no way to check where the parts are from, but you can see they look like they’re from a third world country.
I can only believe they continue to keep their doors open solely using FALSE ADVERTISING and Unethical Business practices. Because its been my experience that’s how McLane operates daily. These guys are LIARS and THIEVES !
Just notice there aren’t ANY reviews on McLane’s website. Now it’s obvious why!
BUYER BEWARE !! AVOID McLane Lawn & Garden Equipment.
In my opinion, even IF they were once Made in the USA, (they’re NOT now ) they give "Made In America" such a bad reputation, they'll make you wish you'd bought something "Made In China" instead !
They are an embarrassment to the lawn equipment manufacturing industry, and to American companies in general.
I have a McLane and the reel to bed adjustment drives me insane. Other than that I really enjoy the mower.
100% agree. I always walk away from saying i am just going to leave it where it is. Lol 😂
Trucut review coming soon?
Working on it. Lol
I’ve got a got a couple 25” if you would like to use one lol
I would take one off your hands no problem
My McLane caster wheels blew out in just a few weeks of owning it, and it was a NIGHTMARE to get them replaced. Like months and months of back and forth with customer service and a repair man. McLane hugely failed by using plastic wheels. I'm afraid they are going to fail again, to be honest. It looks like they are finally using metal wheels now. Is that correct?
I am not positive on whether they have switched back to metal from plastic. I know the 25 inch still uses steel wheels. Sorry to hear about your horrible experience. I know a lot of people have complained about the plastic wheels and was not a good move by Mclane to switch over to save cost. It sounds like they at least got them fixed and hopefully the next ones last you for a long time. I appreciate the question and will respond back if i gather more information on if they are selling them new again with steel wheels. 👍🏻
What year is your McClane? I just received mine yesterday and was completely disappointed that it came with plastic wheels. Plastic wheels on a $2k mower... I would have never bought it had I known.
I am not sure what year but my guess is around 2010-2012. I purchased it on the 2nd hand market. It was new but a strange story. The person bought it for his dad and never gave it to him and it sat for 6 years in his garage before he sold it. I was truly surprised it had the steel wheels vs plastic expecting the plastic ones. I do have a video on my channel showing an overview of my mower and included some of those details in the comparison video. I’m sorry to hear about your disappointment on the wheels. I do appreciate the comment and support 👍🏻
@@dwaynesworldlawn Thanks for the reply. Wish I had found your videos before ordering mine...
@@roberth.1721 don’t be to dissapointed i would be happy with the mower you have. I’m sure it will cut great as long as you keep the blades sharp and only mow grass. Lol not rocks and branches. Lol
☀This is a very thorough video on comparing the two. I've been considering getting a decent used one for scalping purposes and such. I like the Honda engine, can't beat them.
Honda is definitely the way to go. I would say that i had the same thought in the past where i thought, let me get it for scalping. What happens next, i ended up setting it up so nice i don’t want to use it for that purpose anymore. Lol
Reel to bed knife adjustment-turn the knob no brainer, no bolts to turn just a knob. HUDSON STAR
Hudson star. Great mower. Hope to try one one day 👍🏻
"Funner mow" - mowing is work. Either get a sheep or a bot. Spend your time wisely. I will probably opt for the 25" Cal T.
The 25 CT is different as it is a commercial mower. It doesn’t have the same clutch system that is on the 20 inch. I’m sure you’ll do your research and appreciate the feedback 👍🏻
@@dwaynesworldlawn How much is your cutting area?
@@golfshoe9321 about 7000 sq ft
@@dwaynesworldlawn That's roughly my area as well. How long does it take just to cut with the 20"? I am thinking a 25" probably should take a bit faster, but how much faster...thanks.
@@golfshoe9321 Rough Guess. If I do just a single pass probably 30-40 minutes. When you include edging and blowing prob close to an hour. If I double cut its even longer. There are a lot of people that say you will finish alot faster with a 25 and can't say I 100 percent agree. I have a 25 in Greens keeper and it still take just as long. I think a 25 inch will provide nicer fatter stripes and will also be more forgiving on an uneven lawn due to the larger roller or width. Hope that helps...
By far…
Thank you!!!