A couple of weeks ago I am in my 10th hour of flight training and we had a cylinder wall crack right after take off about 300 ft AGL. I was at the controls and my CFI took over. We had just enough power to circle around and do a quick landing. Shook me up a little but by CFI handled it like a pro. I learned a lot. Nothing like real life training. I will always remember what to do.
I’m sorry that happened to you so soon in flight training! Something like that happening is relatively rare - but I’m glad you guys got down to the ground safely. It’s so important to practice emergencies for these situations. I hope you’re feeling better now, and if you’re up for it, to get back in the saddle 👍🏼
@@FlywithHayley Yes! I figured I had better get right back at it. My next time up is supposed to be my first solo so I am very excited! Its been a long time dream of mine to learn to fly so I'm not letting that stop me. I do enjoy your videos. I'm trying to soak up all I can. Thanks for responding!
Just a suggestion: the starter draws more current than any other system on your airplane. The second most power-hungry item on the plane is the landing light. When you were trying to crank the engine at 10:24, notice how much your landing light dimmed - that's likely why you weren't able to crank fast enough to get it to start again. If you're starting the engine, definitely shut off all other electrical load first, to allow the maximum current available for the starter. You can also hear your avionics/radio suffering from low voltage as you're cranking - you definitely don't want that happening, so again - everything else (especially expensive avionics) should be turned off when starting. Running the starter with insufficient current means a ton of heat going into the coils of the starter for a longer amount of time as it attempts to crank the engine, and this is a good way to burn out your starter.
Appreciate the suggestion! I was thinking the same thing after the flight. I left my radio on to communicate with tower, and honestly didn’t even think of the landing light. It’s good to know it draws that much power! I learned a lot from what happened in this video and in retrospect would have tried the restart differently.
agreed! the engine cut out at idle from a leak in the throttle body. (I never run the debonair at idle unless I’m about to touch down) It’s in overhaul now 👍🏼
Always great to see you Hayley! I’m so glad you made it to your destination before things went “south”. Nice that you were able to enjoy your weekend and that the aviation community was there for you 💕 Thanks for taking me along 🤗
Glad it happened after you touched down and all is well! Recently I had a cylinder and head separate in flight. But there, thankfully, we were at pattern altitude in the circuit and made an emergency landing. Had to push the plane off the runway, but everyone was safe. BTW, I'm a student pilot and my CFI took over, I was demonstrating landings for a solo maybe 15 minutes later! Timing is everything...
@@Dezzy-e8b Believe it or not, it contained the head and push rods inside! I was amazed that happened and didn't really see much of any damage to it either.
I'm a novice to flying, but love it. Im an old guy, so I really enjoy your videos! I have a question. While you were at 13,500 feet, I didn't see any oxygen being used. I thought I'd heard above 12,000 feet, you need supplemental oxygen. Thanks for the great videos! Safe travels!
Good to know… I had my Bo’ engine stalled after touchdown once… thought it was the fuel pump calibration… but will definitely check the Throttle Body… Safe flights and Happy Landings!
Got similar problems with an A36TC with the big chunky too hot of a turbo it had, if somehow you left the mixture a little bit short from full, it died on the rollout on landing and a Seneca III, which later find out it needed calibration on mixture of the right engine… anyhow made me feel stupid when it happened on either one because i knew what was going on and that was totally preventable. Glad your’s not bad and Debi is fine. Nice flights.
My home airport! Just did my first unsupervised solo this week. Glad it was a failure on the ground. Rossi and Advantage have great maintenance orgs with lots of A&Ps on site.
I think I was more freaked out than you!😄scary stuff but thankfully you guys were already on the ground👍 glad the issue was found and fixed. Continued safe flying Hayley. love the vids!!
I love watching videos like this, they educate you on all the possible ways things could go wrong and what can be done to prevent / resolve them - thanks for sharing Hayley and glad you guys are safe!
Thanks I’m glad! It’s why I decided to post this one. Learned checking idle on preflight for longer can help catch those lean idling (or leaking throttle body) issues
Amazing flight.So glad engine decided to take a rest on touch down ,luck was on your side. With your experience you would have landed your plane no problem. My flight instructor back in the day always said look for a highway or country road or field ,thats your best chance to survive. I would take a guess it's time to go over the engine really good after what happened. Cheers and blessings moving forward.
So I've been studying how to fly for the last three months because I was going to start taking flying lessons in the spring. I've learned so much I almost feel like I could do the checklist, ATIS, talk to ground, taxi, run up, radio tower, take off, climb, and head to a destination. I've learned a LOT! But along the way I've also learned the dangers and the large number of monthly fatal accidents in GA. Stall and spin deaths, icing deaths, carbon monoxide poisoning deaths, engine failure deaths, autopilot and other instrument malfunction deaths, landing gear malfunction deaths, wind shear deaths, vapor lock deaths, bird strike deaths and of course the possibility of pilot error deaths. The list of ways flying can kill you goes on and on. Aviation is dangerous...no matter what you've been told I think a little too dangerous for my liking. I think I'll take up the ukulele instead. From what I've read there are far fewer ukulele related deaths.
It was mentioned earlier you should check your idle setup. I always check during run up. I have a A36 and there isn't anything in the checklist but it's part of my every flight is after run up is complete I don't idle to 1000 I pull it all the way back and give it a few seconds to see if it wants to quit. Continentals are notorious for shutting down when you're all the way pulled back so I recheck 1000 rpm on roll out.
Agreed! I did check idle on preflight but maybe having it idle for longer would have caught the problem before takeoff. Always adding to that checklist!
@@phillp7777 I worked for Lycoming. If the carb mixture is set correctly it will idle just fine at the recommended 650 RPM. That is assuming everything else is in order. When you shut down, look for a slight RPM rise as you slowly pull the mixture back to cut off.
I had a few "lucky" moments with transport, (cars, bikes, boats), but goodness, there's lucky, damn that was lucky and then there's fkin heck that was lucky... tick that last box for this one Hayley. All the way through the video I'm looking at the prop thinking if it goes now really hope they get down OK. You all touch the ground and the engine stops and I breath again. So glad you all got down safe. Mechanical problem, on the ground, all good. Last video I watched of a light aircraft with an engine out problem was at altitude, pilot had to make a short field landing, airframe was a total right off. Fortunately the pilot survived OK. Keep them coming and best wishes to the three of you.
A very good place for your engine to fail. In the air so much worse. I’m very happy you and family are safe. A pilot needs to ready for any emergency. Give Debbie a hug. We all feel a little sick some days. 😢😊
My first day at flight school, , i arrived for my first lesson, saw a crowd gathered at the fence, because my flight instructor was what i thought late went to check what the heck was going on , to find out my flight instructor was couching a aircraft, down with a fuel cap that was never put back, and there was a long and rather large vapour trail behind the Cessna 172 which, as i at the time understood was basically out of fuel 😂
Every single pilots worst nightmare but you handled it like a champ. Thankfully it was something somewhat minor and It happened at the best possible moment. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger!
The engine in my Piper Arrow did the exact same thing as your Debonair. My issue was the idle was set to low. I don’t believe my mixture had anything to do with it. Gets your attention when you are sitting on the runway. My Arrow fired back up and I was able to taxi off the runway
I like the graphics you inserted throughout the vid. The toddler in the back seat looked a wee bit nervous lol. Engine failure....very scary stuff. Glad it turned out okay but I'd have a been wee bit nervous on the way back home.
thanks appreciate it 😊 yeah my sister is a nervous flyer in general haha it was a good learning experience and am looking forward to flying it after the throttle body comes back from overhaul.
Lost mine on short final after pulling the throttle to idle over the fence. I had descended quickly so I thought I'd shock-cooled (vapor lock), or the fuel pump b/c it wouldn't restart. Me and a pax had to push it off the runway while an impatient Jet-pilot berated us over the Unicom freq.! The problem was an improper part/installation 3-states and 1000 miles back. My mechanic said I was lucky and that I wouldn't have been the 1st pilot a mechanic had killed. That was my 1'st time hearing that adage and the last day I trusted just any mechanic. This was my last engine out, 26 yrs ago -- I wish you my luck -- & a good mechanic.
Here's a good one for you. I was D.O.M. for an FBO. I came to work on a Monday morning to find a Baron in the hangar. That one was the worst engine failure I had ever seen in 42 years of working on small planes. The left engine failed in a big way. To think that it landed in the condition it was in, is a miracle. I guess the crankshaft broke first. It shattered the cam into three pieces. The center 3" part of the cam departed, making a hole in the crankcase and top cowling, landing somewhere 13 miles West of the airport. The entire front two cylinders and crankcase were separated from the rest of the engine, only holding in place, and hanging down at a 20 degree angle, by the lower cowling and some of the metal of the oil pan. The prop wasn't able to be feathered so it added to the drag. How that plane made it to a safe landing, on a runway was a major achievement by the skilled pilot. I told him when he gets home to hug his family tight and thank the Lord. We patched the cowling and installed a fresh engine. I wish I had taken some pictures as that was one for the record books. I'm assuming the mechanic holding the servo was your home airport mechanic? By the condition he showed, you are probably lucky to have made the return trip safely. How may hours since last overhaul of that part?
I just watched your video . Fun Trip ... Good Work. I like how you are always planning an out. I used to fly up to the Hudson Bay at the top of Ontario. Always good to have an alternate plan. Great Work.
Love your vids just got my plane back to florida after learning to fly in Southern Oregon. Hope to post some content as I upgrade from Sport to PPL this winter and get a spin endorsement.
Great stuff Hayley! First off you have such a BEAUTIFUL Beech Debonair and I am wondering does it fly like a Bonanza? I know they’re so very similar now especially since the straight tail design Bonanza released in 1982 killed off the Debonair I believe. It is just a smaller engine on a straight tail Bonanza essentially? Did you have to get Bonanza certified to fly her? Glad you and the passengers all came out of this adventure safe and sound given crossing the Sierra Nevada range and then the Debonair engine dying! Wow! 🤯 A little scary I’d be worried but glad it didn’t die over the Sierra Nevada’s 😅 Cheers 🥂 Hayley! Wishing You Blue Skies & Tailwinds! -Caleb’s Aviation
Single-engine failure in night flying is absolutely a nightmare, be sure to have a thorough inspection before you fly it again after dark. Thanks for sharing!
Of all the places to have an engine die, the ground is my favorite by far! Off the movement area is a little better than the runway, but all's well that ends well!
Hey Hayley, love your videos! Always an inspiration to be personally. So a couple of years ago, when I was in flight training, the same thing was happening to one of the airplanes, where the engine was failing on landing roll-out. Happened a couple of times, and it turned out to be the same reason as to why your engine was failing. So I live in Canada, and I remember the mechanic saying that they adjust the mixture when the seasons change, because of the cooler temperatures, and the air being more dense. Hopefully this provides some insight, and ease in knowing that this situation does happen (:
Here is a compliment and a Q Hayley ,from England , Wonderfully calm landing with you at the controls and the engine malfunction, Just suppose tho you had lost it over the mountains , how far would you think you could have glided the plane [ depending on the winds] to a possible landing site?? Keep the videos coming
Given that throttle body was “pretty wore out” according to your mechanic, are you considering a teardown/rebuild of your engine? Would seem prudent for an engine that old.
It was nerve wrecking! At the time though we thought it was the mixture control that needed tuning, and after an extensive run up everything was running as it should be. when we tested some things at my home field we found a leak
Wait..that happened to me upon landing at South Lake Tahoe airport in the rarefied air, with one of my engines. What solved it immediately I figured out was cranking with the throttle open way more than normal.
I had a similar experience during my flight training (back in the 80's). I had been solo out in the practice area, returning to DVT. Lost the engine shortly after turning final. Airspeed and altitude was fine, just did a normal landing. Engine restarted on the runway. When I reported the squawk to the FBO, they asked "which aircraft? - oh, that one... yep it does that once in a while". Seriously???
If it had to happen, glad it happened on the ground. Have you replaced your battery after the jump or was it just drained from trying to restart after engine stall? You fly to some remote strips and need a dependable battery.
Better to have engine problems on the ground that in the air! And I didn't realize the Debonair was that fast. I know it's the predecessor to the Bonanza, but still didn't realize it was that fast. Uh, that movie theater? Holy crap, if I had a theater like that, I'd never go to the movies again!
The Debonair wasn't a predecessor to the Bonanza. The Debonair is a Bonanza except in name. *From Wiki:* "The Model 33 Debonair was introduced in 1960 as a lower-priced model with more austere standard instrumentation, exterior equipment, paint schemes, and interior fabrics and trim than the more prestigious V-tail Bonanza. However, most Bonanza features were available as factory options on the Debonair, and by the mid 1960s, most Debonair buyers were ordering most or all of these options. Realizing this, Beechcraft dropped the Debonair name and most of the basic and seldom-ordered standard features with the introduction of the E33 in 1968." Cheers!
That’s a fast cruise? Which engine do you have and how are you setting it for that performance? I ask because I have a ‘67 Deb with 225hp and plan for 130kts. Would sure like a little closer to your numbers.
We had a 35kts tailwind and were descending at 500fpm when we reached 215kts over the ground - generally at the fastest with the 285hp engine would be 180kts!
good question! no I knew the engine was still running until it slowed to a stop near the end of the runway. they believe at idle for an extended amount of time the leak in my throttle body could have starved the engine of fuel and it stalled
I think I was a Cirrus right ahead of you from Monterey. I remember hearing a Bonanza lost its engine on the runway and airport ops was on its way to the tow as I was taxiing to parking! What happened? 😅
how u get started as pilot originally Haley? where's yur bio or 1st flying vid ? where u fly out of ? do one pls how many hrs TT now ? hiw u get yur ferry job doing that ? know somebody ? ofc
Thats gotta be quite scary.. Glad it happened after touchdown rather than still in the air.. if you don't mind me asking, what store is that with all the trucker hats?
Question: I've been a pilot since the late 60's and have been fortunate enough to have never suffered an engine failure. My question is, does this effect you on subsequent flights? Do you fly (as I would assume) with a certain amount of trepidation for an extended time?
Regarding what the guy said at 6:53: I am an ICU nurse and saying what he said in that airplane during the flight would be like me or one of my colleagues saying, "It sure is a nice, quite night" in the middle of the shift. A nurse that says something like that will either go home battered and bruised, or should be going home battered and bruised. 🤣
Does that Bo have a turbo? My turbo normalized A36 used to do the same thing until I had the low rpm fuel flow adjusted. A friends TN Bo did the same as well until has was adjusted and he gave me the tip. I think it’s a common thing.
I had an engine failure in a Cherokee Six 300 back in March of this year. I was around 4,500 AGL and that didn't give me nearly as much time as I thought it would in the event of an engine failure. The Six 300 has the glide ratio of a refrigerator!👎🏼
This happens one time... and you will do math and find alternatives if experimental. Typical Lycoming, Continental aircraft engines were designed/built 1953. Exactly like VW/Porsche aircooled engines. A total joke! Like all designs, these have weaknesses. I have never made it to TBO. Here is some basic math: ---lycoming produces 7k engines per year per each engine model. --- failure rates are from 6-10% averaged for all engine models. --- out of 7000 engines produced... 700 engines fail mechanically. Dead not running. VS ----Most popular chevy v8 ls series engines.... 100 million at less than 1% failure rate. ---- Auto engine sampling size of 7000 per year... failure rate is around 1.43%! So 1 engine failure per 7000 built!!! ---- Designs, engines constantly updated. ---- Way better more severe stress testing. And here is exactly the problem. FAA Regs wofully outdated, massively expensive and overpriced for piss poor designed 70 year old engines with extremely high failure rates compared to auto engines. Here is a question.... Do you think the automotive industry would be in business and or doing well with a 10% engine failure rate in all thier cars? The Ford Model T Engine produced in 1920s is more reliable than any modern (1950s) piston aircraft engines. Reminds me of spotty cell phone coverage when traveling and the lack of basic highspeed Broadband internet service.... REALLY? ITS 2024 AND THIS IS REALLY THE BEST WE CAN DO? Elon Musk is landing multi stage rockets back on landing pads. Man has been to the moon. We can do full heart transplants in 45 mins.... But we cant have perfect cell phone coverage everywhere!??? We still are using dialup modems, dsl, and 50 year old slow cable modem internet, and parts of the usa still does not have ANY Internet connectivity!???? And outdated, expensive, high failure rate aircraft piston engines due to outdated regulation.... FAA Went to leaps and bounds to destroy the rc drone industry... it only took them two years.... but they cant do anything related to real danger? Interesting???
Good to know… I had my Bo’ engine stalled after touchdown once… thought it was the fuel pump calibration… but will definitely check the Throttle Body… Safe flights and Happy Landings!
A couple of weeks ago I am in my 10th hour of flight training and we had a cylinder wall crack right after take off about 300 ft AGL. I was at the controls and my CFI took over. We had just enough power to circle around and do a quick landing. Shook me up a little but by CFI handled it like a pro. I learned a lot. Nothing like real life training. I will always remember what to do.
I’m sorry that happened to you so soon in flight training! Something like that happening is relatively rare - but I’m glad you guys got down to the ground safely. It’s so important to practice emergencies for these situations. I hope you’re feeling better now, and if you’re up for it, to get back in the saddle 👍🏼
@@FlywithHayley Yes! I figured I had better get right back at it. My next time up is supposed to be my first solo so I am very excited! Its been a long time dream of mine to learn to fly so I'm not letting that stop me. I do enjoy your videos. I'm trying to soak up all I can. Thanks for responding!
Shoutout the CFI, whose the man the myth the legend?
@@nathancoleman6813where u fly out of ?
what type ac was is it ?
very odd that happening... do they do ok maintenance or what ?
Glad it didn't turn into "the impossible turn" which it does turn into the vast majority of the time.
Just a suggestion: the starter draws more current than any other system on your airplane. The second most power-hungry item on the plane is the landing light. When you were trying to crank the engine at 10:24, notice how much your landing light dimmed - that's likely why you weren't able to crank fast enough to get it to start again. If you're starting the engine, definitely shut off all other electrical load first, to allow the maximum current available for the starter. You can also hear your avionics/radio suffering from low voltage as you're cranking - you definitely don't want that happening, so again - everything else (especially expensive avionics) should be turned off when starting. Running the starter with insufficient current means a ton of heat going into the coils of the starter for a longer amount of time as it attempts to crank the engine, and this is a good way to burn out your starter.
Appreciate the suggestion! I was thinking the same thing after the flight. I left my radio on to communicate with tower, and honestly didn’t even think of the landing light. It’s good to know it draws that much power!
I learned a lot from what happened in this video and in retrospect would have tried the restart differently.
A solution to this might be LED landing light. It draws much less power and I tend to leave the landing light on all the time now below 10,000’.
I’m happy that the engine stopped after you landed. And that it didn’t ruin your weekend. 😊
Whew, glad you all made it home. I would have been nervous on the flight back after the engine out.
Of all of the places for an engine out, you couldn't have been more lucky!
agreed! the engine cut out at idle from a leak in the throttle body. (I never run the debonair at idle unless I’m about to touch down) It’s in overhaul now 👍🏼
@@FlywithHayley So your saying that the throttle body is being overhauled ?
@@jayterrill3252it is! should be back soon. excited to fly it again
Always great to see you Hayley! I’m so glad you made it to your destination before things went “south”. Nice that you were able to enjoy your weekend and that the aviation community was there for you 💕 Thanks for taking me along 🤗
Had same issue earlier this year on my Grumman Tiger. Thanks for posting the entire issue, can absolutely help others!
Glad you are safe. Great to have Kelsey in a persons life too. Thanks for sharing.
Glad it happened after you touched down and all is well! Recently I had a cylinder and head separate in flight. But there, thankfully, we were at pattern altitude in the circuit and made an emergency landing. Had to push the plane off the runway, but everyone was safe. BTW, I'm a student pilot and my CFI took over, I was demonstrating landings for a solo maybe 15 minutes later! Timing is everything...
And your engine cover ?
@@Dezzy-e8b Believe it or not, it contained the head and push rods inside! I was amazed that happened and didn't really see much of any damage to it either.
Wow, good to be on the ground when that happens! Glad to see you and friends are OK.
I'm a novice to flying, but love it. Im an old guy, so I really enjoy your videos! I have a question. While you were at 13,500 feet, I didn't see any oxygen being used. I thought I'd heard above 12,000 feet, you need supplemental oxygen. Thanks for the great videos! Safe travels!
Glad to see you were fine and able to get back.
I had forgotten that there was a mid air at Minden a couple of months ago. Stay vigilant and safe.
Good to know… I had my Bo’ engine stalled after touchdown once… thought it was the fuel pump calibration… but will definitely check the Throttle Body…
Safe flights and Happy Landings!
Thanks you as well! I’m glad this could help, learned a lot from this flight
Thank god you guys made it safely and back home.. thanks for sharing your videos, as always. I look forward to the next video.
beautiful flight, fun smiles, great piloting. SO glad y'all are safe. Thank you for the explanation and showing us what was the powerplant problem.
Nit picking. You swing your gear during the annual inspection when the airplane is on jacks. When flying, it’s GEAR UP and GEAR DOWN😉
Meh
Got similar problems with an A36TC with the big chunky too hot of a turbo it had, if somehow you left the mixture a little bit short from full, it died on the rollout on landing and a Seneca III, which later find out it needed calibration on mixture of the right engine… anyhow made me feel stupid when it happened on either one because i knew what was going on and that was totally preventable. Glad your’s not bad and Debi is fine. Nice flights.
My home airport! Just did my first unsupervised solo this week.
Glad it was a failure on the ground. Rossi and Advantage have great maintenance orgs with lots of A&Ps on site.
Nice flight...Great.. the problem developed after touch down and you were able to return home.
Fantastic view all around. I’m glad to hear you had your engine fixed and all is well. Thumbs up 👍
I think I was more freaked out than you!😄scary stuff but thankfully you guys were already on the ground👍 glad the issue was found and fixed. Continued safe flying Hayley. love the vids!!
I love watching videos like this, they educate you on all the possible ways things could go wrong and what can be done to prevent / resolve them - thanks for sharing Hayley and glad you guys are safe!
Thanks I’m glad! It’s why I decided to post this one. Learned checking idle on preflight for longer can help catch those lean idling (or leaking throttle body) issues
Thank God it happen on the ground and everything worked out great. You had a great fun at the event and you show courage for the pro you are.
Amazing flight.So glad engine decided to take a rest on touch down ,luck was on your side. With your experience you would have landed your plane no problem. My flight instructor back in the day always said look for a highway or country road or field ,thats your best chance to survive. I would take a guess it's time to go over the engine really good after what happened. Cheers and blessings moving forward.
fun .. luv cali .. just hate the issues its having now . glad to see you got it looked at and able to return safely.
was born in Torrance btw .. relatives in Huntington beach . san diego , chico ca, .. traveled there alot growing up in Washington state.
So I've been studying how to fly for the last three months because I was going to start taking flying lessons in the spring. I've learned so much I almost feel like I could do the checklist, ATIS, talk to ground, taxi, run up, radio tower, take off, climb, and head to a destination. I've learned a LOT!
But along the way I've also learned the dangers and the large number of monthly fatal accidents in GA.
Stall and spin deaths, icing deaths, carbon monoxide poisoning deaths, engine failure deaths, autopilot and other instrument malfunction deaths, landing gear malfunction deaths, wind shear deaths, vapor lock deaths, bird strike deaths and of course the possibility of pilot error deaths. The list of ways flying can kill you goes on and on. Aviation is dangerous...no matter what you've been told
I think a little too dangerous for my liking. I think I'll take up the ukulele instead. From what I've read there are far fewer ukulele related deaths.
Thanks for taking us along, Debbie is a fine girl she just needs some loving care 😊safe travels
It was mentioned earlier you should check your idle setup. I always check during run up. I have a A36 and there isn't anything in the checklist but it's part of my every flight is after run up is complete I don't idle to 1000 I pull it all the way back and give it a few seconds to see if it wants to quit. Continentals are notorious for shutting down when you're all the way pulled back so I recheck 1000 rpm on roll out.
Agreed! I did check idle on preflight but maybe having it idle for longer would have caught the problem before takeoff. Always adding to that checklist!
does same thing w idle happen in Pipers like Warriors ?
I think they're Lycoming eng
If the idle mixture was too lean, it might have been fine up there at Minden but too lean to run down at Palo Alto.
@@phillp7777 I worked for Lycoming. If the carb mixture is set correctly it will idle just fine at the recommended 650 RPM. That is assuming everything else is in order. When you shut down, look for a slight RPM rise as you slowly pull the mixture back to cut off.
I had a few "lucky" moments with transport, (cars, bikes, boats), but goodness, there's lucky, damn that was lucky and then there's fkin heck that was lucky... tick that last box for this one Hayley. All the way through the video I'm looking at the prop thinking if it goes now really hope they get down OK. You all touch the ground and the engine stops and I breath again. So glad you all got down safe. Mechanical problem, on the ground, all good. Last video I watched of a light aircraft with an engine out problem was at altitude, pilot had to make a short field landing, airframe was a total right off. Fortunately the pilot survived OK. Keep them coming and best wishes to the three of you.
A very good place for your engine to fail. In the air so much worse. I’m very happy you and family are safe. A pilot needs to ready for any emergency. Give Debbie a hug. We all feel a little sick some days. 😢😊
Glad everyone is ok!
My first day at flight school, , i arrived for my first lesson, saw a crowd gathered at the fence, because my flight instructor was what i thought late went to check what the heck was going on , to find out my flight instructor was couching a aircraft, down with a fuel cap that was never put back, and there was a long and rather large vapour trail behind the Cessna 172 which, as i at the time understood was basically out of fuel 😂
Every single pilots worst nightmare but you handled it like a champ. Thankfully it was something somewhat minor and It happened at the best possible moment. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger!
The engine in my Piper Arrow did the exact same thing as your Debonair. My issue was the idle was set to low. I don’t believe my mixture had anything to do with it. Gets your attention when you are sitting on the runway. My Arrow fired back up and I was able to taxi off the runway
I like the graphics you inserted throughout the vid. The toddler in the back seat looked a wee bit nervous lol. Engine failure....very scary stuff. Glad it turned out okay but I'd have a been wee bit nervous on the way back home.
thanks appreciate it 😊 yeah my sister is a nervous flyer in general haha it was a good learning experience and am looking forward to flying it after the throttle body comes back from overhaul.
Lost mine on short final after pulling the throttle to idle over the fence. I had descended quickly so I thought I'd shock-cooled (vapor lock), or the fuel pump b/c it wouldn't restart. Me and a pax had to push it off the runway while an impatient Jet-pilot berated us over the Unicom freq.! The problem was an improper part/installation 3-states and 1000 miles back. My mechanic said I was lucky and that I wouldn't have been the 1st pilot a mechanic had killed. That was my 1'st time hearing that adage and the last day I trusted just any mechanic. This was my last engine out, 26 yrs ago -- I wish you my luck -- & a good mechanic.
WOW!!! Thank GOD you were on the ground when it failed...
Here's a good one for you. I was D.O.M. for an FBO. I came to work on a Monday morning to find a Baron in the hangar. That one was the worst engine failure I had ever seen in 42 years of working on small planes. The left engine failed in a big way. To think that it landed in the condition it was in, is a miracle. I guess the crankshaft broke first. It shattered the cam into three pieces. The center 3" part of the cam departed, making a hole in the crankcase and top cowling, landing somewhere 13 miles West of the airport. The entire front two cylinders and crankcase were separated from the rest of the engine, only holding in place, and hanging down at a 20 degree angle, by the lower cowling and some of the metal of the oil pan. The prop wasn't able to be feathered so it added to the drag. How that plane made it to a safe landing, on a runway was a major achievement by the skilled pilot. I told him when he gets home to hug his family tight and thank the Lord. We patched the cowling and installed a fresh engine. I wish I had taken some pictures as that was one for the record books. I'm assuming the mechanic holding the servo was your home airport mechanic? By the condition he showed, you are probably lucky to have made the return trip safely. How may hours since last overhaul of that part?
I just watched your video . Fun Trip ... Good Work. I like how you are always planning an out. I used to fly up to the Hudson Bay at the top of Ontario. Always good to have an alternate plan. Great Work.
The graphic showing where you are in your trip is nice.
Love your vids just got my plane back to florida after learning to fly in Southern Oregon. Hope to post some content as I upgrade from Sport to PPL this winter and get a spin endorsement.
Great stuff Hayley! First off you have such a BEAUTIFUL Beech Debonair and I am wondering does it fly like a Bonanza? I know they’re so very similar now especially since the straight tail design Bonanza released in 1982 killed off the Debonair I believe. It is just a smaller engine on a straight tail Bonanza essentially? Did you have to get Bonanza certified to fly her?
Glad you and the passengers all came out of this adventure safe and sound given crossing the Sierra Nevada range and then the Debonair engine dying! Wow! 🤯 A little scary I’d be worried but glad it didn’t die over the Sierra Nevada’s 😅
Cheers 🥂 Hayley!
Wishing You Blue Skies & Tailwinds!
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Single-engine failure in night flying is absolutely a nightmare, be sure to have a thorough inspection before you fly it again after dark. Thanks for sharing!
Of all the places to have an engine die, the ground is my favorite by far! Off the movement area is a little better than the runway, but all's well that ends well!
Well put together video Hayley! You a pro!
timing is everything , kewl as the backside of the pillow , stoic air legend salutes HH
Hey Hayley, love your videos! Always an inspiration to be personally. So a couple of years ago, when I was in flight training, the same thing was happening to one of the airplanes, where the engine was failing on landing roll-out. Happened a couple of times, and it turned out to be the same reason as to why your engine was failing. So I live in Canada, and I remember the mechanic saying that they adjust the mixture when the seasons change, because of the cooler temperatures, and the air being more dense. Hopefully this provides some insight, and ease in knowing that this situation does happen (:
im soo glad all is well!!!!
Praise God for bringing you all together in safety
Glad your safe Thanks for sharing
Fun to see my training airport in the wild! Now my bonanza is at SQL.
Great video quality. And sunset shots. Like the person commented already, luckily you have an angel that likes your RUclips channel
hey, I recognize that airbnb from a previous trip!
Glad you’re safe ❤🎉
The graphics are a nice touch! 😎
I saw you leaving PAO on that day. Was getting ready to head out in a 182
Good morning from Minnesota! Great episode!
Here is a compliment and a Q Hayley ,from England , Wonderfully calm landing with you at the controls and the engine malfunction, Just suppose tho you had lost it over the mountains , how far would you think you could have glided the plane [ depending on the winds] to a possible landing site?? Keep the videos coming
Great video as usual. When is your next Diamond ferry flight?
Common problem when the un-metered fuel pressure is set too low. Usually quits when rolling out. Easy fix unless your issue was the throttle body.
That was a little bit of Debi Downer 😅 Glad it wasn't in the air.
your mixture setting and vacuum gauge readings could have helped you spot the inlet manifold leak... Anything out of the norm basically.
Given that throttle body was “pretty wore out” according to your mechanic, are you considering a teardown/rebuild of your engine? Would seem prudent for an engine that old.
Gutsy call, to fly home with an iffy engine--over mountains, at that! Glad everything worked out!
It was nerve wrecking! At the time though we thought it was the mixture control that needed tuning, and after an extensive run up everything was running as it should be. when we tested some things at my home field we found a leak
@@FlywithHayley I bet! THEN...there's that niggling doubt that always pops up, no matter how well you prepare.
Any Auto-Rough over the mountains??? 🤔😜
Wait..that happened to me upon landing at South Lake Tahoe airport in the rarefied air, with one of my engines. What solved it immediately I figured out was cranking with the throttle open way more than normal.
I had a similar experience during my flight training (back in the 80's). I had been solo out in the practice area, returning to DVT. Lost the engine shortly after turning final. Airspeed and altitude was fine, just did a normal landing. Engine restarted on the runway. When I reported the squawk to the FBO, they asked "which aircraft? - oh, that one... yep it does that once in a while". Seriously???
Did you log some glider time?
If it had to happen, glad it happened on the ground. Have you replaced your battery after the jump or was it just drained from trying to restart after engine stall? You fly to some remote strips and need a dependable battery.
Better to have engine problems on the ground that in the air! And I didn't realize the Debonair was that fast. I know it's the predecessor to the Bonanza, but still didn't realize it was that fast. Uh, that movie theater? Holy crap, if I had a theater like that, I'd never go to the movies again!
The Debonair wasn't a predecessor to the Bonanza. The Debonair is a Bonanza except in name. *From Wiki:* "The Model 33 Debonair was introduced in 1960 as a lower-priced model with more austere standard instrumentation, exterior equipment, paint schemes, and interior fabrics and trim than the more prestigious V-tail Bonanza. However, most Bonanza features were available as factory options on the Debonair, and by the mid 1960s, most Debonair buyers were ordering most or all of these options. Realizing this, Beechcraft dropped the Debonair name and most of the basic and seldom-ordered standard features with the introduction of the E33 in 1968." Cheers!
right the theater was so cool!! my plane cruises fastest 180kts we just had a good tailwind that day
That’s a fast cruise? Which engine do you have and how are you setting it for that performance? I ask because I have a ‘67 Deb with 225hp and plan for 130kts. Would sure like a little closer to your numbers.
We had a 35kts tailwind and were descending at 500fpm when we reached 215kts over the ground - generally at the fastest with the 285hp engine would be 180kts!
Great video. Guessing you have a Concorde battery? Get a Gill !
Do you think the engine quit when you went to idle but it just windmilled until you slowed down enough?
good question! no I knew the engine was still running until it slowed to a stop near the end of the runway. they believe at idle for an extended amount of time the leak in my throttle body could have starved the engine of fuel and it stalled
@ yea I dropped that comment just before you explained what the issue was😂 that definitely makes sense.
I think I was a Cirrus right ahead of you from Monterey. I remember hearing a Bonanza lost its engine on the runway and airport ops was on its way to the tow as I was taxiing to parking! What happened? 😅
I’m sure Alberto Rossi took good care of it :-)
how u get started as pilot originally Haley?
where's yur bio or 1st flying vid ? where u fly out of ?
do one pls
how many hrs TT now ?
hiw u get yur ferry job doing that ?
know somebody ? ofc
Thats gotta be quite scary.. Glad it happened after touchdown rather than still in the air.. if you don't mind me asking, what store is that with all the trucker hats?
They’re from Bart Bridge!
@@FlywithHayley Ty Haley! I'm ordering the Delta and the Vancouver BC. Pure sucker for trucker hats here!
another nice video THANKS
Question: I've been a pilot since the late 60's and have been fortunate enough to have never suffered an engine failure. My question is, does this effect you on subsequent flights? Do you fly (as I would assume) with a certain amount of trepidation for an extended time?
It died when you pulled the throttle to idle or under a power for taxi?
My new engine died at idle and had to be adjusted a little on the fuel flow.
Did rear seat have any nails left at the end? What about O2?
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Check idle mixture setting
I did during run up, knowing what I know now should have left it idle for longer and may have found the problem before leaving Minden
Regarding what the guy said at 6:53: I am an ICU nurse and saying what he said in that airplane during the flight would be like me or one of my colleagues saying, "It sure is a nice, quite night" in the middle of the shift. A nurse that says something like that will either go home battered and bruised, or should be going home battered and bruised. 🤣
Does that Bo have a turbo? My turbo normalized A36 used to do the same thing until I had the low rpm fuel flow adjusted. A friends TN Bo did the same as well until has was adjusted and he gave me the tip. I think it’s a common thing.
Nice edit!
I had an engine failure in a Cherokee Six 300 back in March of this year. I was around 4,500 AGL and that didn't give me nearly as much time as I thought it would in the event of an engine failure. The Six 300 has the glide ratio of a refrigerator!👎🏼
Beechcraft Debonair is a great aircraft
Should you use oxygen when over 12,000ft?
Always the best place to have an engine fail, on the ground! So glad that you are all OK.
Oops! Good place for a stall.
No O2 for that flight?
getting a system soon!
Yeah they do that lol
haha just another day in the bo
Did Spirit Costumes have the new Kamala Unburdened outfit?
Can the music.
Got to fix that music, it is horable, plus its 10x to freaking loud
This happens one time... and you will do math and find alternatives if experimental.
Typical Lycoming, Continental aircraft engines were designed/built 1953. Exactly like VW/Porsche aircooled engines.
A total joke!
Like all designs, these have weaknesses. I have never made it to TBO.
Here is some basic math:
---lycoming produces 7k engines per year per each engine model.
--- failure rates are from 6-10% averaged for all engine models.
--- out of 7000 engines produced... 700 engines fail mechanically. Dead not running.
VS
----Most popular chevy v8 ls series engines.... 100 million at less than 1% failure rate.
---- Auto engine sampling size of 7000 per year... failure rate is around 1.43%! So 1 engine failure per 7000 built!!!
---- Designs, engines constantly updated.
---- Way better more severe stress testing.
And here is exactly the problem. FAA Regs wofully outdated, massively expensive and overpriced for piss poor designed 70 year old engines with extremely high failure rates compared to auto engines.
Here is a question....
Do you think the automotive industry would be in business and or doing well with a 10% engine failure rate in all thier cars?
The Ford Model T Engine produced in 1920s is more reliable than any modern (1950s) piston aircraft engines.
Reminds me of spotty cell phone coverage when traveling and the lack of basic highspeed Broadband internet service....
REALLY? ITS 2024 AND THIS IS REALLY THE BEST WE CAN DO?
Elon Musk is landing multi stage rockets back on landing pads.
Man has been to the moon.
We can do full heart transplants in 45 mins....
But we cant have perfect cell phone coverage everywhere!???
We still are using dialup modems, dsl, and 50 year old slow cable modem internet, and parts of the usa still does not have ANY Internet connectivity!????
And outdated, expensive, high failure rate aircraft piston engines due to outdated regulation....
FAA Went to leaps and bounds to destroy the rc drone industry... it only took them two years.... but they cant do anything related to real danger? Interesting???
Music is little over bearing
A lot over
How long were you guys at 13,500? Shouldn't you have needed oxygen?
less than 15 minutes, you’re allowed up to 14,000ft for 30 minutes without O2
@@FlywithHayley my ppl checkrides in 2 weeks so a little scary I didn't know that
@@FlywithHayley Interesting, the rules are slightly different in Canada where it's only 13,000ft where you have the 30 min rule.
Good to know… I had my Bo’ engine stalled after touchdown once… thought it was the fuel pump calibration… but will definitely check the Throttle Body…
Safe flights and Happy Landings!