The Maushold Paradox: Why Mausholds Greatest Weakness Is What Makes It Good
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- I absolutely adore Maushold, and this video is about an interesting interaction between Maushold and Gholdengo that I've noticed when using Maushold.
Also, while this isn't super relevant, if Maushold gains more usage, its easy enough to adapt, and just run more rocky helmet. Pokemon with static or flame body can also work, but will likely be OHKO'd by population bomb. Maushold hasn't been good enough for this to be super notable however.
Edit: I didn't update my script, and Garganacl fell to UU, and Skeledirge rose to OU. Consider them as taking each others roles in stopping Maushold when I talk about them in the video.
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Maushold's greatest weakness is that it blows hard, Maushold's greatest strenght is that it blows so hard that nobody builds against Maushold
Yep, for this, Maushold can be very matchup fishy
Maushold blows so fucking hard dude oughh
mmfgh...
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@@paz8723down abysmally
I used population bomb into a rocky helmet garchomp a few months ago in randoms on Showdown and saw my life flash before my eyes.
Literally a population bomb.
Same happened to me with stamina.
The same happened to me in the first week of OU. Maushold felt unstoppable at first, until I hit a Rocky Helmet Corviknight...
Wait this might have been me 😂😂😂 this happened to me around that month it was my last pokemon and I was saving it (you might have had a houndstone and I switched it into it and I won the game before
Why Having A Glaring Flaw Is Everything: The Maushold Theorem
Glad someone else thought this
I think it’s funny how the Maus has a completely different role in VGC (Friend Guard and Beat Up on annihilape)
*had
It used to be a follow me user but it got replaced by ogerpon w and the like
@@StarbonsaiMaushold to me was Clefairy when Clefairy wasn’t available until Teal Mask. Then again, Ogerpon takes the spot of Follow Me user better unless a player decide to use Hearthflame because that is more of an offensive playstyle that does more damage. I think I’m rambling on, but I hope I got something across?
@@Connowot387 i get what you mean, for me clefairy is more support while maushold has more offensive pressure. But ever since wellspring became a thing, its kinda just maushold but better.... it gets follow me, encore, better type advantage as well as ivy cudgel just being a better move competitvely.... i think theres a place for maushold but at the moment its hard to fit it on any vgc team
@Starbonsai The biggest advantage to Maushold right now is in closed team format, it's hard to tell if it's Friend Guard Follow Me or Technician Population Bomb.
I have a team in particular that uses both Follow Me Maushold *and* Ogerpon with Annihilape to fake out opponents.
3:17 the litlle fire bird getting it’s own rocky helmet is so adorable. I never would have thought of doing that.
"Tidy Up" should have been Minccino's signature move.
It does get it, though oddly it’s not even by level up, which is quite crazy
Maushold is already a knockoff Cinccino
I've been running Maushold since the beginning of the gen, and I find that its third greatest asset (aside from its two signature moves) is its speed tier at 111. It is JUST BARELY faster than Iron Moth, Ogrepon and Latios (All on 110) among a few others, and revenge kills them easily with population bomb. Beyond that, it only needs a single tidy up boost to outrun Deoxys Speed, but being to able to switch in after a KO and either get an easy kill or force a switch is one of its greatest assets.
It also has Encore but everyone knows Encore is good.
Yeah, 111 was soooo good pre dlc, as ogerpon was rampant, and its ability to OHKO oger was part of why I used it.
I like how being faster by 1 point in speed is as good as having a choice scarf in certain matchups.
Like that 5'11- 6'0 meme but in speed version
Do you have the greatest weakness because you're Maushold, or are you Maushold because you have the greatest weakness?
Maushold: Nah, we'd win.
Using stamina + body press against moushold is so funny
This is such a unique video to me and honestly I adore it. The topic and your video style come together so well, great work!!
Thank you!!
As the guy who puts Maushold on the map for ou, it’s not that hard for opportunities to knock off rocky helmets in ou with the distribution being available to more Pokémon, for example I hit 2022 two weeks ago with azumarill and Maushold with jolly BD azumarill with knock off for corv and skarm. It’s a fun Pokémon that can work well and threaten a sweep or trade a big threat to the team.
Stamina + body press
@@inkognito3145 ez to bait the switch in and clod walls
Amazing editting as usual
Thanks!
Maus is currently insane in UU, not consistent because anything can run helmet, but it just casually murders all UU ghost types with beat up because it's just weak armor ceruledge and polteageist.
There's also garg now at least
We’ve entered an OU youtuber renaissance in gen 9 and I friggin love it
V cool video dude
As someone who only played Pokemon single player casually back in the early gens, I barely understood any of this :D.
Maushold is not a bad pokemon the current ou metagame power level is just vary high at the moment, if Maushold was in a less powerful metagame then i am sure it would be somewhat viable.
I mean maybe? But at the same time, its about equally good in OU and UU, so who knows
Completely outclassed by Cinccino now tho.
@@bananaspice1967 Not really? While theyre both tidy up sweepers, they both do very different things, and Maus is above cinccino on vr
@@blip_exists Yeah but Cinccinno is more reliable in my eyes. Atleast from what I've seen
I think it could work with a Baton Passer and Safety Pads
the family of four shredding itself apart against my lang shark's blade-like scales
3:04 Garganacl is UU, that + Cinccino just being a better Maushold is what holds it back the most nowadays.
Yeahhh, started making this before DLC2, when Garg was banned from UU, my mistake!
Though I disagree with Cinccino, Maushold is a muchhh better nuke the Cinccino.
Cincc doesn’t have population
Bomb which is why Maus is so scary. Even resisted it still can Ko any non tank Pokémon.
Agree with you. Both Cinccino and Maushold's main weakness is rocky helmet, rough skin and iron barbs. Thankfully, Cinccino has access to knock-off to remove the helmet, making it easier to sweep
Cinccino doesn't have population bomb yes but it has pretty decent coverage and better attack stat, while it's not just a straight up upgrade (Maushold will do a lot more to neutral targets) it's a bit more flexible imo.
I loved using a support maushold (focus sash + friend guard) with follow me, encore, thunder wave and super fang... those lil things move fast!
edit: vgc format
Yeah Maus in VGC tends to be verryyy different than in singles
I play a little bit of uu but i'm not that great but here's my experiences
i've been mostly using cinnico (nicknamed divorced maushold) because it's sorta like maushold with a bit more coverage in the multi hit moves and technichian
maushold pop bomb does more damage than cinnico but, again, i can run rock blast and loaded dice to hit ghost types as well
my main problem with cinnico (which i assume is similar for maushold since they have basically the same stats) is that it dies instantly to basically anything and has trouble setting up to sweep
i should probably build a team with maushold instead of their clearance bin cousin
Between the two, I much prefer maus, because pop bomb is funny and has slightly more bulk, though I have seen a few people talking about Cinncino being a decent pick.
I'd appreciate if I could recognize from the title or thumbnail or something that the video is going to be from the context of smogon singles metagame. It's a common complaint I have with competitive pokemon content creators tbh, you never know which format the video is going to be about.
I'll keep that in mind for future videos!
Dude I love your content! The overall feeling is very calm and you explain the information very well! Keep it up :)
Nice quality video
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I tried out mausehold for a bit near the start of ou because I figured it was a way to clear hazards against enemy gholdengo.
I stopped using mausehold when I realized it was completely useless against gholdengo and other ghost types. It also was so frail it was really hard to find opportunities to switch in and set up regardless.
Video checks out.
I mean, bite can mess up most ghost types that aren't skeledirge, but yeah, Maus can be a bit difficult to use.
Garchomp is curently really good in UU which not only reduces mausholds viability, but also make it so Cincinno is actual competion, because while it doesnt hit as hard, it still has Tidy Up and technician Triple Axel.
Furthermore, mons like Mamdibuzz and Talonflame make for great Defogers in UU, though I still think Talon has OU viability, seeing as how it eats up Tusk, can threathen gholdengo with fire stab etc
Cool I subbed
funny thing is tidy up technically not signature anymore since they gave it to the walking behemoth furret
Correct, though when it first came out it was
chincinno got tidy up and now it's got a niche
D rank for cinccino is pretty goated ngl
Tidy Up + Technician Triple Axel is no joke. Even on a mon like Cinccino; which is great for me because the goofy chinchilla is one of my favorites.
Mousehold is one of my favorites! But I’ve accidentally hit rockyhelm+roughskin garchomp enough to be sad
Nice thumbnail
Thanks!
At least you gave a helmet to the birdie too.
nice vid :)
Maushold has access to beatup also which is another multi hit move and could theoretically counter gholdengo with its dark type
and tho each hit of beatup is considered to be typeless it still isn't normal type therefore it can hit gholdengo
Enter Rocky Helmet Lando-T
I used it in vgc cause after you overrides the -6 priority of trick room. And even if my hatrerine was ko'ed before it could set up trick room, after you still enabled my main strategy
Choice specs tera fire eruption torkal
The thing that checks maus the best isn't really gholdengo I'd say, but rocky helmet.
Gholdengo have to come in and often risk eating a bite on switchin. Plus it only forces maus out, not kill it on switchin.
Rocky helmet lets you ko maus on switchin.
Maushold cant live a hit to it really be used at its fullest even so u will need to build a team around it to see usage be worth the cost it has more going against it then for it be steel and ghost
Nobody talks about protective pda maushold
Mainly because its a fair bit worse than wide lens, at least in my opinion. Rocky helmet isn't common enough to be a huge issue, so you'd rather have the power increase from wide lense. Without wide lense, you often aren't dealing enough damage with population bomb to justify using maushold
Maushold Paradox? Funny Mice?
Ciccino gets tidy up too
but does it get a 300 bp stab move?
@@blip_exists makes sense 😃👍
The opposite of this can also be true, such as Gen 1 Golem. Golem actually beats Rhydon 1-on-1 since both 2HKO with Earthquake, but aside from that Rhydon is much better. If Rhydon didn’t exist, Golem would certainly be OU, but Rhydon’s existence makes Golem worse even though Golem has a good matchup against it.
I use bullet punch scizor so im safe against the mouse
Ironically, Scizor is both great against Maus, and great with it, due to resisting its two main attacks, and having bullet punch, but also baiting in common rocky helmet pokemon to knock off.
@@blip_exists nice
The mumble of "I don't play much UU" sounded to me like "I don't play much yugioh"
Isn’t Skeledirge in OU as of the moment you posted this?
It did happen to rise back up, oops. Reverse happened with Garg, but you can kinda reverse those two, as they both counter maushold.
Garganacl is in UU and he is a pain the fucking ass
Its funny that its move is called population bomb, because this whole situation is basically just real world ecology.
You suggest Maushold would actually become worse in OU if Gholdengo, its most common check, was banned, and then you point out that Maushold is rated higher in viability rankings in UU, where Gholdengo is in fact banned. This contradicts your theory for if Gholdengo were to be banned from OU. Gholdengo and other ghost types aren't even Maushold's biggest weakness though. It's its frailty. Even with the power of population bomb, it does an accuracy check for each hit, unlike other multi-hit moves. Once it misses, it stops rolling for another hit. This makes its effective base damage lower than 300 on average. While tidy up can help compensate for this, this is why its frailty is its biggest weakness, because so many Pokemon can just one shot it when it tries to set up. Not to mention that priority moves have been very common for a long time now. Don't get me wrong, Maushold is a good Pokemon, and as with most Pokemon, its weaknesses can be worked around with proper teambuilding, but to say a specific Pokemon being a check is actually its greatest weakness, or even rocky helmet, is a bit Farfetch'd.
Kudos for hollow knight in the background ❤
So the problem is the freaking Gholdengo
It's like Landorus-T of 9th Gen
Guys what is this talking about Maushold isnt a paradox pokemon :troll:
I feel like you just run protective pads and your problems go away
Issue with that is that without wide lens, Population Bomb does its damage much less consistently. Without Wide Lens, Maushold just isn't the threat it normally is.
1:45 what website is this please
showdowngraphs.com/ should be the link
@@blip_exists thanks so muc!
Erm akshualy skeledirge is immune to population bomb so your graphic where it wears rocky helmet is irrelvent 🤓
(/j)
1:22 did they just turn?
Yep, I think they did begin to turn, oops prolly drift on my controller
Nah bro they are sentient and are watching your every move@@blip_exists
How is this not a fairy type
Idk what any of this means.