Without having used any of these models, seeing how your video starts, I think the SLs are a better investment in terms of durability. I like their design better too.
Great video. In my experience, the shifts toe box is way smaller, def height wise. And the shifts after about 3 weeks, when I would crank down on the laces, my heal would shift side to side some, loosened up the laces and solved that. SL's my Aragon 5 shells are still ripping
The SL is known for being one of the few wide options on the market and the Shift for being slim. I tried the Shift in EU41-42 (42 is my size) and it was wayy to narrow. But the IFS (instant frame shifting) system just seems like such an awesome feature!! Now I'm contemplating testing them out again.. RUclips always keeping my skate crisis alive and well.! 😂
Great video, I skate SLs the aragon 4's with Kizer shifts riding freestyle and always wondered what the razor shifts would be like. Figured they weren't too different. I too agree, that razor really needs to release some more color ways of the SL's and to be honest, new color ways of the Genesys need to be put out. Those were my favorite skates. My pair developed a pressure point and thats why I ended up trying the SLs out
Back to razors after like 3 years of trying 5 or so different skates and brands and previous skating sl's I find the brooms perfect , I run mine with oysi frames because I struggle with wheel bite but love skating flat and I find the liner it comes with much better than my old reign liners I used in other skates as they are much newer than the ones I had overall a 10/10 skate although they feel very chunky because I was able to downsize in some other brand skates but I love them ! Was a really in-depth review and covered everything perfectly and agreed with so many points you said
I really wanted to try the Broom Shifts but instead i grabbed a pair of the new Cult Level Ones to get back into skating with a set of 57mm GC Galaxy wheels. Really like the new 1pc soul plates n theyre really light for skates n familiar considering the last skates i had were the Cult Elliot 3's lol.
Got back into skating last december on the USD Sway team 60's. In hindsight maybe i should have gotten the Razors Shifts. That frame seems better, and I'd like my boot a bit more flexible. I'm 41 and haven't skated in about 20 years lol. First stand in went like i did it the last time i skated, naturally. Finally some good weather and more practice time every evening if i can. Great vid, down to earth and honest. Gonna try my skates withou the heel raisers next session, good point!
Sway's are solid. I reviewed those on the channel a few months back. I found them less spacious in the boot (particularly the toes), but they were good. Finding the right pair of skates is a bit of trial and error. Welcome back to blading by the way!
@@RollMinnesota will check the vid out! I have wide feet, so yeah the liner I still right, pressure points are okay. Or maybe skates and liners have become waaaay more comfy these days 😎
@@workingoutdoorsman6956 yeah I just had to try and get back at it. First stand in try went flawless. Muscle memory is real Been out a few times and we've finally got nice weather. Let's see if I can still get up on the Local Vert that is still standing. Weird how that thing got moved 3 times but it's still there lol. It's calling me. 41, bad knees and lower back. Smart move. Not 😇🤣
@@workingoutdoorsman6956 Also jumping back at 41, I found my muscle memory basically came back after 20 years!! Took a few sessions on flat tarmac, took a spill once in a while, did WAY better than I expected....I was flying like a maniac within 30 minutes....Thing is, I Never had Aggressive skates as a kid, only standard Inlines(which are faster).....so that's what I used this time..... I went to the skatepark One time so far, and did Amazingly well....after getting bored circling the park, I started Going down pretty large ramps, then the Half-pipe no issues....I need more time to work on jumps, going backwards, etc.....but I actually took a rough spill because I got stupid and got Way too crazy, Lol.....pulled some muscles in my Pec and Back, funny thing is, it wasn't From the fall, it was from me "preparing" to fall, I clenched too hard and Pulled something bad....couldn't lift anything heavy for 2 weeks, I have more Muscle now than when I was 18...so I have to be mindful of "how" I fall...so maybe something to consider.....Risk VS Reward, don't get too crazy or excited like I did, Lol.....Just ordered some Razors, so feeling better, hoping to get back in a few days....
Good stuff. Great content as always. From your experience, how often is it required to buy a fresh pair of SL boots when skating regularly to avoid them getting too soft/flimsy or is it enough to replace just the cuffs?
Realistically, I think they could last for several years without replacement. I guess it depends on how much damage you inflict on them. I go through Razor buckles about every 6-8 months, but I drag my feet when I fall. Personally, I buy a new pair of skates every spring . . . I'm hard on my skates and like to support the industry.
What liners do you recommend for the razors SL? I find the cuff digging into my ankles while doing royals and other grinds. Awesome videos by the way! Keep it up🙏🙏
You rip!!! I’ve known about your channel for a while, but before that I had never heard of you. You’ve obviously been skating forever. Just wondering if it’s me, or if this industry slept on you? Were you ever a team rider for any brands?
I rode locally for Con Artist clothing back in 2006-2009 . . . just on the flow-team. There are plenty of people much better and far more deserving of sponsorship than me. I appreciate the kind words though!
Great skating (as always) and review! I've also skated both and while I found them similar in width, the Shifts have less toe room, which for me with a high foot was less comfortable than the overall roomier SL. Since I've gotten back to blading around 7 years back, I tried out about 15 boots and I've settled on the SL. While I don't like the design of the soulsliders too much (and the brand as such) and had high hopes for Standard to take the SLs place, I'm not totally sure it will happen. SLs just work for me. Interesting that you skate the Slimlines flat btw - need to try that at some point. Looks like a great Aeon-like split. What wheel size are you using for flat on those?
Do you downsize at all? Wondering what length your feet are and what size shells you are using. Im a uk8 and can fit into a uk8 SL, but the UK8 shift that i should be able to fit into feet way too small.
I fit comfortably in a US8 in both skates; I didn't notice any difference in sizing/spacing between the two. However, I did replace the liners with ones I've previously broken-in. I hate breaking-in new liners . . . new liners always make the skate feel smaller to me.
Used to have the Tarmac by RB back in the day and even before that we pulled all these tricks without all the fancy boots and high tech frames... Verdict Learn to skate 😝
cannot stand the sloppiness and the Moon boot feeling of SL's. The shifts are light, slender and feel like a sophisticated cult boot. They don't sound as good as sl's but if you put foam inside the frame switching system then they sound good. It's just breaking in that Reign tongue that's annoying af 🤣.... another well done vid🔥🤘
I’m actually more impressed at your skate ability. I’ve watched your videos but haven’t seen you skate. Really sick man
Thanks, I’ve been skating since 2001 without any breaks. Definitely not the best in my local crew, but I try to keep up with the others.
Without having used any of these models, seeing how your video starts, I think the SLs are a better investment in terms of durability. I like their design better too.
Great video. In my experience, the shifts toe box is way smaller, def height wise. And the shifts after about 3 weeks, when I would crank down on the laces, my heal would shift side to side some, loosened up the laces and solved that. SL's my Aragon 5 shells are still ripping
Aragon 5’s. Beautiful skate!
Sorry if i missed it, but did you mention how the weight of these two compare? Great review and skating btw!
The SL is known for being one of the few wide options on the market and the Shift for being slim.
I tried the Shift in EU41-42 (42 is my size) and it was wayy to narrow. But the IFS (instant frame shifting) system just seems like such an awesome feature!!
Now I'm contemplating testing them out again.. RUclips always keeping my skate crisis alive and well.! 😂
Watching skating content will certainly have that effect!
I just got the shift camos. Pretty good fit for a wider foot. Really liking them and the fact that I can switch to my compass 80mm frames on the go
I'm running compass 80mms too, love these frames on my shifts
@@kitsachie. such a smooth ride
Do you use the instant frame change? Because I can't find where to buy just the quick change soul part
@@andresacosta4879 i think i got mine from oak city
Great video, I skate SLs the aragon 4's with Kizer shifts riding freestyle and always wondered what the razor shifts would be like. Figured they weren't too different. I too agree, that razor really needs to release some more color ways of the SL's and to be honest, new color ways of the Genesys need to be put out. Those were my favorite skates. My pair developed a pressure point and thats why I ended up trying the SLs out
Back to razors after like 3 years of trying 5 or so different skates and brands and previous skating sl's I find the brooms perfect , I run mine with oysi frames because I struggle with wheel bite but love skating flat and I find the liner it comes with much better than my old reign liners I used in other skates as they are much newer than the ones I had overall a 10/10 skate although they feel very chunky because I was able to downsize in some other brand skates but I love them ! Was a really in-depth review and covered everything perfectly and agreed with so many points you said
Dude stepped it up for this video nice skating!🔥💯
Thanks, this one was a fun one to make!
Damn bro those are beautiful, with the purple frames😍
I really wanted to try the Broom Shifts but instead i grabbed a pair of the new Cult Level Ones to get back into skating with a set of 57mm GC Galaxy wheels. Really like the new 1pc soul plates n theyre really light for skates n familiar considering the last skates i had were the Cult Elliot 3's lol.
Bro, you were absolutely shredding. Whipped out some really steezy stuff
Much appreciated! I’m not the most consistent skater out there, but I try to mix in variety.
I've had 3 pairs of shifts and love them but recently changed to the new sways and kinda missing the shifts tho.😂
Your skating is sick.🤘
I tested the Sways recently, I skated really well in them, but just couldn’t get comfortable.
Got back into skating last december on the USD Sway team 60's.
In hindsight maybe i should have gotten the Razors Shifts.
That frame seems better, and I'd like my boot a bit more flexible.
I'm 41 and haven't skated in about 20 years lol.
First stand in went like i did it the last time i skated, naturally.
Finally some good weather and more practice time every evening if i can.
Great vid, down to earth and honest.
Gonna try my skates withou the heel raisers next session, good point!
Sway's are solid. I reviewed those on the channel a few months back. I found them less spacious in the boot (particularly the toes), but they were good. Finding the right pair of skates is a bit of trial and error. Welcome back to blading by the way!
@@RollMinnesota will check the vid out! I have wide feet, so yeah the liner I still right, pressure points are okay.
Or maybe skates and liners have become waaaay more comfy these days 😎
I’m hoping in at 38 now. It’s been awhile so good to see I’m not the only one
@@workingoutdoorsman6956 yeah I just had to try and get back at it.
First stand in try went flawless. Muscle memory is real
Been out a few times and we've finally got nice weather.
Let's see if I can still get up on the Local Vert that is still standing. Weird how that thing got moved 3 times but it's still there lol.
It's calling me.
41, bad knees and lower back. Smart move. Not 😇🤣
@@workingoutdoorsman6956 Also jumping back at 41, I found my muscle memory basically came back after 20 years!! Took a few sessions on flat tarmac, took a spill once in a while, did WAY better than I expected....I was flying like a maniac within 30 minutes....Thing is, I Never had Aggressive skates as a kid, only standard Inlines(which are faster).....so that's what I used this time..... I went to the skatepark One time so far, and did Amazingly well....after getting bored circling the park, I started Going down pretty large ramps, then the Half-pipe no issues....I need more time to work on jumps, going backwards, etc.....but I actually took a rough spill because I got stupid and got Way too crazy, Lol.....pulled some muscles in my Pec and Back, funny thing is, it wasn't From the fall, it was from me "preparing" to fall, I clenched too hard and Pulled something bad....couldn't lift anything heavy for 2 weeks, I have more Muscle now than when I was 18...so I have to be mindful of "how" I fall...so maybe something to consider.....Risk VS Reward, don't get too crazy or excited like I did, Lol.....Just ordered some Razors, so feeling better, hoping to get back in a few days....
Good stuff. Great content as always. From your experience, how often is it required to buy a fresh pair of SL boots when skating regularly to avoid them getting too soft/flimsy or is it enough to replace just the cuffs?
Realistically, I think they could last for several years without replacement. I guess it depends on how much damage you inflict on them. I go through Razor buckles about every 6-8 months, but I drag my feet when I fall. Personally, I buy a new pair of skates every spring . . . I'm hard on my skates and like to support the industry.
What liners do you recommend for the razors SL? I find the cuff digging into my ankles while doing royals and other grinds. Awesome videos by the way! Keep it up🙏🙏
Personally, I really like Reign liners. I've never had an issue with them and strongly prefer them to the Razor stock liner.
Thanks for responding 🙏 and I'll look into the reign liners!😃
You rip!!! I’ve known about your channel for a while, but before that I had never heard of you. You’ve obviously been skating forever. Just wondering if it’s me, or if this industry slept on you? Were you ever a team rider for any brands?
I rode locally for Con Artist clothing back in 2006-2009 . . . just on the flow-team. There are plenty of people much better and far more deserving of sponsorship than me. I appreciate the kind words though!
Great skating (as always) and review! I've also skated both and while I found them similar in width, the Shifts have less toe room, which for me with a high foot was less comfortable than the overall roomier SL.
Since I've gotten back to blading around 7 years back, I tried out about 15 boots and I've settled on the SL. While I don't like the design of the soulsliders too much (and the brand as such) and had high hopes for Standard to take the SLs place, I'm not totally sure it will happen. SLs just work for me.
Interesting that you skate the Slimlines flat btw - need to try that at some point. Looks like a great Aeon-like split. What wheel size are you using for flat on those?
The slimelines take a little time to get used to riding flat. I’m rolling 57mm Eulogy wheels in them.
@@RollMinnesota Interesting - because of the wide split or groove? Is that about the max it takes rockered up, so it's actually pretty low profile?
It is low-profile, I think 58's are the biggest wheels they can accommodate @@art0nblades
Do you downsize at all? Wondering what length your feet are and what size shells you are using. Im a uk8 and can fit into a uk8 SL, but the UK8 shift that i should be able to fit into feet way too small.
I fit comfortably in a US8 in both skates; I didn't notice any difference in sizing/spacing between the two. However, I did replace the liners with ones I've previously broken-in. I hate breaking-in new liners . . . new liners always make the skate feel smaller to me.
@@RollMinnesota totally, breaking in new liners is the worst 😄
Used to have the Tarmac by RB back in the day and even before that we pulled all these tricks without all the fancy boots and high tech frames...
Verdict
Learn to skate 😝
Killin it
cannot stand the sloppiness and the Moon boot feeling of SL's. The shifts are light, slender and feel like a sophisticated cult boot. They don't sound as good as sl's but if you put foam inside the frame switching system then they sound good. It's just breaking in that Reign tongue that's annoying af 🤣.... another well done vid🔥🤘
mane ive only heard people talk shit bout the shift. i think i just need to try it myself and see how im feeling it. who knows? i could love it???
Man you throw down. Just put together a downsized (8-9) pair of SLs I'm hoping to skate tomorrow. Shifts are dope but won't fit my foot.
Who are you? You're a fucking good skater damn, dude.
My man skates flat flat 💪
I got the general impression folks didn't like the shift for some reason. I don't think Andrew even skates his skates. lol.
I think the general consensus is a preference for the SL boot, but the Shift is super convenient and very comparable, in my experience.
He’s been riding the cults with one piece souls
Get out of here. Fakie cab hand plant 3 on a small spine👍
That's one of my favorite tricks!
that is a nice skatepark
Thanks, I actually led the design process on this park, in collaboration with the city and the construction company.
5:22 😎👌
That trick took forever to land!
Why is the box inside out?
I wondered that myself . . . that's how Razors shipped it to me.