Can You Beat Disgaea 5 With Items Only? - Casp
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- Опубликовано: 17 дек 2023
- this video is pretty rough, and i blame the weather
ALL ITEMS ONLY RUNS: • Items Only JRPGs
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Sources:
Disgaea 5 Carnage Baal by John Crosby:
• Disgaea 5 Carnage Baal...
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Games featured in this video in order of appearance:
Disgaea 5 (PS4, PC, Switch)
Disgaea D2 (PS3)
Disgaea 7 (PC, Switch)
Disgaea 2 (PS2, PSP, PC)
Dragon Ball FighterZ (PS4, PC, Switch)
Disgaea 1 (PC, PS2, PSP, NDS)
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (N64)
Phantom Brave (PS2, PSP, PC, Switch)
Devil May Cry 3 (PS2, PC, Switch)
Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance (PS3, 360, PC)
Dragon Quest Swords (Wii)
Diablo II: Lord of Destruction (PC)
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Music used in this video in order of appearance:
Wonder Castle - Disgaea 2 OST
Don't Turn Back - Disgaea 5 OST
Lord Laharl's Hymn - Disgaea OST
Welcome to the Devil's Castle - Disgaea OST
Battle of Eight Beat - Disgaea OST
Kusha Kusha no Yume - Prinny: Can I Really Be The Hero? OST
My Little Garden - Phantom Brave OST
Brother and Sister - Disgaea 2 OST
Kimi ni Tsukamatte - Digimon World OST
GAME IS GAME - Digimon World OST
ハラール様の賛美か - Disgaea 2 OST
Sand Shower - Phantom Brave OST
Daybreak Flight - Disgaea 5 OST
Invisible Zoon - Disgaea 5 OST
Night Scoop - Disgaea 5 OST
Revenge Blues - Disgaea 5 OST
Scandal - Disgaea 5 OST
Stepping Hard Beat - Disgaea 5 OST
Wolfberry - Disgaea 5 OST
Bloody Brass Band - Disgaea 5 OST
Break Free - Disgaea 5 OST
Catch the Rainbow - Disgaea 5 OST
Strange Wind - Phantom Brave OST
Game Breaker - Phantom Brave OST
Snowberry - Phantom Brave OST
Visual Sensation - Disgaea 2 OST
Negotiation - Jade Cocoon 2 OST
Rosen Queen Co. - Disgaea OST
City Theme 2 - The Legend of Dragoon OST
Fight! - Breath of Fire III OST
Windy City - Breath of Fire III OST
Technology - Breath of Fire III OST
Casually - Breath of Fire III OST
Final Battle - Breath of Fire III OST
Exploring the World - Breath of Fire III OST
Abandoned Commerce Area- Breath of Fire Dragon Quarter OST
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Casp starts playing the anime game immediately starts making zombie waifus and becomes a hurricane of knife crime, I've never been more invested.
I've personified the UK.
I swear you always drop videos when I need them the most. Putting this on now
I'm here to serve you, baby... You know, platonically.
At this point with the items only series getting more and more videos were going to need a CBT level tier list for where each run ultimately ranks.
CBT sounds painful. I wouldn't recommend it.
So far, Breath of Fire 3 has been the most ball-crushing. It required the most attention to detail, and had far more potential softlocks than any other run. The only reason I got out so unscathed was because I knew it extremely well.
The others have been pretty easy, outside of the few roadblocks in FF7. There's one I've been pondering, circling around in the brain, that's gonna take an excessive amount of early-grinding, which is why I haven't started it. Honestly considering trying that one next, ngl. I'm not sure if you're familiar with the Suikoden series, but if you are, you know exactly what I'm in for.
oh you poor poor soul i know exactly what is about to happen @@Caspicum
Dis guy a making top tier youtube videos.
Sometimes I do wonder what tier they're at. I'm at least a mid, right?
@Caspicum naw man they are tippy top tier.
Fantastic work, as always, sir. I always enjoy your content, and it’s always worth the wait. Hope you have a fantastic end of the year, you’ve earned it. 👍🏼👍🏼
ty ty! I replied to this already but youtube chewed it up. I appreciate the kind words, and wish you well in your own holidays! Enjoy all that it brings, I hope it brings many boons my friend
They did forget to how write a story but the gameplay peaked at 5
I've been really digging 7. They simplified a lot of stuff, and added a bunch of things, such as item reincarnation, so you're not trapped into first-trying the perfect item, there's a bit more leniency. It also means you can reincarnate into the next tier, and don't need to rely on thieves or high HIT. I'm not in love with the giant mode, seems like an attempt to change things up by any means necessary, but after 6, 7 was an amazing rebound. Also the story is like half the size of 5 which I love.
Disgaea 5 was my first foray into the series, and one of the first games I owned on the Switch; while it's nothing too special story-wise, it's certainly one of the best gameplay-wise, and even today I consider it to be a great entry point into the series
Congrats on beating the game with a veritable army of zombie meidos and their unlimited supply of throwing knifes
Nice video, also youtube didnt notify me about your last video. I dont know what you did to youtube but the only reason i knew this video came out cause i was doing my semi monthly rewatch of digimon world review and arc the lad.
It may have been the thumb wasn't catchy enough and you glossed over it. Honestly, I'm bad at thumbs, and that last one was *rough*. That said, I won't turn up a chance to feel victimised by RUclips. I'm just glad you're here now!
New Casp upload? Instant hype
Despite complaining about everything about the game and the series, still has a very deep knowledge about it
Just your typical Casp video!
I'm glad someone else feels the same about the storytelling after 2 or 3
I thought 4 was pretty entertaining, if only cause Val in the Dub is fucking hilarious with that delivery
I don't even really like the story in 2 tbh. I thought 5's story was better than 2 and 3. But nothing has topped the first game.
(haven't played 6 or 7 yet, but I assume they're not better story-wise)
Yeah, the first game has remained king of story, and unfortunately, even the remake couldn't get the gameplay up to par with the quality of life changes found in the newer titles. That said, it's still my favourite and it's 100% because of the story.
Okay for me the biggest issue was how many of everything there was, i think thats why i was more of a ZHP person more than the main disgaea~ extremely entertaining as always
I've always preferred the 'spin-offs' to the core game. ZHP, Phantom Brave, Makai Kingdom, Soul Nomad, pretty much any NIS game from the PS2/PSP era is gold though, and a lot of their PS1 games are solid too.
goddamn its been a whole year since you made that dis 6 video
its been so long i thought i made it up
Disgaea, datgaea. Which gaea is it?!?!
The 5th one tho technically it’s the 6th game if you count D2
@@jacktwelve1710 no
But no one ever ask how is gaea 😢
It's dosegaea
This deserves way more upvotes
Can I commend the excellent music selection? The whole time I was listening to the music choice and then when the Jade Cocoon 2 music came by it really sunk in just how much I loved the PS2 era for games.
Jade Cocoon 2 and Dragon Quarter are some of my go-to tracks when I run out of songs from the game I'm talking about. I'm gonna commend you for your quality taste. Keep converting people to our church of good opinions.
damn you fell in the disgaea rabbit hole
goddamn its been a whole year since you made that dis 6 video
its been so long i thought i made it up
I was born in the Disgaea rabbit hole. Ever since the PS2 days, I've been on that grind.
your opening statement is true, but i still find it hard to return to earlier games without those features and improvements
That's kinda what makes them for me. I get why people avoid Disgaea 1, but the story is the best and I like how earnest and humble it is. I think 2 is the best mix of quality of life improvements before it went overboard, but 4 isn't too bad either.
"I don't really like anything past the 2nd game"
Not even 5 seconds in and I already love it XD
quality taste
Daddy Saurus has come back with another D-game, nice.
What a strange Dark Souls mod.
What they did to Oswald was horrific, and I hope someone pays for that.
Cool Video!
ty ty!
I cannot fathom that someome would risk their physical and mental health to perform this torturous task.
I also wish to see you attempting to defeat Baal- however, all things considered, it was a good run.
Ya know I came for the reviews (shitty and cringe as the early ones are, but hey what youtuber hasn't done cringe) but now I stay for the item only run. Love your style of snark
Also I am of the mind that I enjoy the disgaea (and any other nippon ichi game) plot no matter how bad cause it can still make me laugh...but yeah with ya, I do miss the quality of 2, did like 4's plot at least for entertainment factor
God, those early reviews... Let's forget about them. :) :)
I definitely missed the earnest whimsy in 5. Characters get serious when they have to, then break into whimsy to keep it entertaining in the better games, but in 5, nobody had more than one dimension, they had one trait each and never strayed from it. I wonder if that's why they shove so many story characters into the fold now, because they're multiple parts of what should be a single character?
We're going too deep here, PULL UP
@@Caspicum I agree, I don't mind the game being serious one minute and then silly the other, it worked for Disgaea, the problem is with so many different characters its hard to want to focus on them and want to like em.
Not to mention with so many unique characters it also detracts from using the normal units since you will always have superior characters save for rare cases where you need a specific class to break the game
I'm surprised how much everyone seems to hate Disgaea 5, even more so than 3 now. I could've sworn it was praised a lot on release, but now I've seen opinions shift as the series has moved to 3D.
5 isn't my favourite or anything ( I still give that to 2) but damn, what happened?
People hate on 5 more than 3? NEIGHBOUR PLEASE! I'm not a big Disgaea 5 fan, it's mid as fuck, but 3 is legit the worst of the franchise because 6 doesn't exist in my mind.
@@Caspicumtruer statement has never been spoken. 6 is just a figment of my imagination. And 3 is just the worst but somehow better than 6.
sounds good, see you in a month when you decide that you indeed will do the grind because you cant control yourself not to.
honestly, someone dropped a comment telling me that I could've levelled the items for extra damage output and I'm considering it.
FUCK. I guess you could also just fill them with gladitors and markman innocents too to max profits.
Man went through a flood and decided that wasn't enough torture.
I'm like autistic Noah
I forgot about the clapping goblin, what a treat!
how can you forget about yourself
I thought 4 and D2 still had decent stories. Not as good as 1, but not worse than 2. 5 though, yeah it’s writing was rough, and I never finished 6. Still, I thought 4 and 5 were huge gameplay improvements, especially with a lot of the more obnoxious aspects getting streamlined and there being a bunch of neat new things to play around with.
I really thought this was going to be a normal disgaea review.
Well, I gusss item only run is the only way to make 5 playable!
You could use the item world one of your attack items (like the aoe claymore one) to buff the attack and hit harder i think you could do that with the thief hands in disgaea 2
OH MY GOD. WHERE WERE YOU WHEN I NEEDED YOU THE MOST
One of the star ocean games item only has to be up next? I need some more of that humour funnelled through one of those beautiful games (obviously I mean 1-3)
I wish I knew enough about Star Oceans 1 and 2 to give it a try, but I think I investigated the third game and found that I couldn't do it. That said, it has been a long time. I've got a short list of games I want to get to in the future, so I will genuinely and thoroughly look into it, I love finding new games where it's possible.
When I find new games, I get so excited that I drop everything to start. I found another Final Fantasy was theoretically possible and completed the run. Just working on the script now!
They do have the 20 item limit... I remember being able to craft many items in SO3, but I never really used them except to stun some of the super bosses. That's a shame to hear that, I'm looking forward to the new FF video though.
I just started playing Disgaea 5C a few days ago and it never even occurred to me that I could make the damned Throwing Knives of all things so busted!
Also Disgaea 2 DHD is the GOAT and I would do unspeakable things to get a Complete version overhaul like D1 received.
based Disgaea 2 enjoyer
I'm surprised to see that beating the base game wasn't too painful. Wew lad for that postgame though. Also, from what I played of Disgaea 1, it's story had a nice balance of comedy and seriousness to it. It was weeb, but like Pokemon weeb. What happened to the writing?
Disgaea 1 still has one of the most memorable stories of the PS2 era, which is insane considering the amount of amazing games and stories on that system. For every horse wiener and joke about Jennifer's assets, there was legitimate character growth, and moments that made you care about cardboard cutouts. I'd say once they realised that people enjoyed the whimsical jokes, they doubled down and went too hard on it. Effectively flanderizing their future stories before they were written to bring in new customers. JRPGs weren't written like Disgaea, and still aren't, really.
i didn't catch it if you said in the video, but why didn't you use the healing item method with the maids in 2-1 to level up quickly?
I don't know it! I also knew that this game would be a stat stomp, so I wanted to keep it relatively fair for as long as I could, which granted, was not very long.
Items only the truest chad way of playing
This guy gets it
I pretty much did this through my llaythrough after finding out items give EXP to grind a maid up to level 500 then 1000 after chapter 7 then 2000 after chapter 12 then just used exclusively items for the range especially demon bullets
Its a shame that Disgaea seems to lose focus the more it goes on. For instance, the school setting could have been more interesting, but I legit don't remember anything of note that happened in that one; I really liked the Cam-pain cabinet thingy in 4, and I thought I'd dislike 5 but came out enjoying it more than expected.
So yeah, for every dumb decision or missed potential every new Disgaea brings, there's stuff that actually makes for a GOOD addition. Like, I really love evilities, and alot of my fav classes were made after 2. Now they just gotta... take everything that works and not lose the plot along the way.
42:18 It's a little complicated. The simplest explanation I can muster is that Bael is an individual demon (usually able to provide invisibility and some scientific or social advancement to those who are in league with him), Baal is a collective title given to various idols or false gods, especially to one storm god, Hadad.
At least in traditional biblical lore and demonology. Them crazy jrpgs just do whatever
ty based history and mythology enthusiast
Okay now that the thumbnail is a cool zombie girl I'll watch.
quality taste. fr though the first one was pissing me off, killia was so low res
Okay, now that the thumbnail is a Prinny I'll watch it again
Yeah I know I have to beat the two games in my backlog, also always play with japanese dub
backlogs mentioned
I love that dude. Very entertaining
I heard Disgaea 7 was legitimately good at least.
Yes! Disgaea 7 is great. It's dialed back a lot of things from 5, it's a bit more modest, but that's good. Item reincarnation is sick, the item world tweaks are great, and the story is passable. Would recommend.
Fk yeah Caspossosss maaaaate
I had a feeling Baal would be the wall. Was surprised to learn it's possible if the only thing you ever do is grind in D5.
Baal honestly might be doable if you could grind harder and exploit passives better than I did, but without buffs I can't see anyone going beyond Baal.
casposaurus beats more challenge runs than I do normal games, but I can beat more of something else as long as I have my trusty 1/3 scale angewomon figurarts sculpture handy.
extremely based
Finally
What an amazing run. Unfortunate Baal just bullshitted you and took away your showers
In a vanilla run, you know I'd be AoE magic spamming those bastards to death, but Claymore Lances just couldn't dish it out.
If you use an item to destroy a geo symbol, I'd count that as item damage by proxy. Either way, geo symbol damage is pretty insignificant outside huge chains of them that end in an explosion.
Yeah, it doesn't rock dudes like it used to. I remember clearing maps with it in the older games.
I wish developers would stop forgetting how to write compelling narratives. It's easily the aspect of game design which is most significant to me personally, but it seems to be the most undervalued and neglected by the industry at large.
I hate it.
It depends on the game for sure. Do I need a compelling narrative in Disgaea? Not particularly, but if it's gonna be 20-something chapters, you've gotta give me a reason to stick around. If you wanna cheap out on it and make it garbage, half the chapter count so that I'm not suffering through it at least.
That said, Disgaea 1 is my favourite, and that has the strongest narrative of the lot.
STREAM AGAIN, I MISS YOU
Maybe one day! For now, I'm not in a situation where I can, unfortunately.
@@Caspicum I pray for the days when you come back. Either way thanks for still making videos, I liked this one. Was a cool way to get through a game.
And not one mention of "daddy's hot slab" anywhere :(
It's more of a lukewarm chunk at this point ngl
when is your next video coming out?
It's not too far off. I'm in the editing process, just had a lot of life things come up and get in the way. Thanks for asking!
@@Caspicum thank u for not stopping, love ur vids!
1:00 lmaooo
WHY DOES THE THUMBNAIL KEEP CHANGING (good video btw)
Also personally i really liked D 3’s story.
Thought Mao was a more interesting and realistic depiction of the asshole mc character compared to Laharl, also i really like magichange, it made me actually use monster classes
I keep changing the thumb because I kept using low-res images, but I finally settled on a nice, high-res image. It will remain now until I find rule34 of the zombie maid
Common Casp W
I'd hate to see a Casp L
Maybe I’m too easily entertained, but I really like the characters and story of 5, except Seraphina, she’s not great. The only Disgaea games I’ve come away from not liking are 3 and 6. Still working on 7, but I like it so far.
3 and 6 are a special breed for sure. I dug 7, it feels like a return to its roots with a bit extra on top. Also, the character designs are sick.
I thought the start and early parts of the 5 were fine, for me the story only get significantly worse after around midway through when turns out the whole main conflict is actually a family drama. Also yeah I agree most of the characters were fine except Seraphina, and Christo too, nothing wrong with him it's just that even after all the teasing with the angels nothing really happens with that plot thread, just a bit disappointing.
Oops All Maids ~
ty ty! and you too, my friend. Enjoy all that the holidays have to offer!
what i wonder is if u can beat your meat with items only
gotta get me that tenga sponsorship
New video from Casp, so let's see how many seconds he goes without being negative.
First fucking second = "I don't like Diesgaea 5".
aaaaaaaaand time.
Disgaea? What about this guy, huh?
I'm more concerned with dat guy, eh. Look at him. Very sad.
Personally Casp, I'd rule geosymbols as being map-derived items, so any damage caused by them is A-OK.
Time to do it all again, but with geodes this time
@@Caspicum Hah! If you want, but I'm just saying I wouldn't rule geosymbol usage illegal, is all. You got amazingly far for what you did. Surprised you never abused clone panels to duplicate your main maid girl to capture, though, and never abused magichange to drastically increase stats from gear, as well as let you grind 5 characters, functionally (4 fused onto 1).
Wait, you can capture clones? if that's real I honestly might go back and stomp Baal. Also, I didn't use Magichange because it's not an item, but trust me, I really, really wanted to.@@KainYusanagi
@@Caspicum Technically, they *become* an item, and there's no restrictions on *characters*... :D As for the clone method, I know it doesn't work with uniques, but it should work with generics; it's been a long, LONG time since I played it though, so I could very well be misremembering it with a different Disgaea or spinoff where you could capture clones.... I know you definitely could do it in D1, using throw into absorption shenanigans with monsters, though you had to ensure the real monster was the one that absorbed the clone or it didn't work in the end, or something like that.
That's crazy, I need to look into this. If I can even shave a few hours off of a grind, I'd do it.
Prinny’s gotta get dem panties… dood
The hero we need.
This was a very fun video. I loved Disgaea 5... despite its dogshit story. Never would have considered beating it with items only though.
I think the fact that I got through Disgaea 5's story was a miracle. I always stop around chapter 8 for some reason...
@@Caspicum I went back to replay it a year or two ago and it was definitely difficult to push through the main story again.
Nike video
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i just posted a bunch of female laharl fanart lol
BASED BASED BASED
Honestly the second game's story is roughly the same quality as 3-5 (haven't played 6/7). People only give it a pass on that front because it hadn't gotten stale yet.
I think the second still had a lot of the genuine qualities of the first game, but you could see the whimsy creep even in the family of Adell. He'd be so deadset on saving them, and they'd be calling each other tards, and shit-talking him. It makes sense, they're turning into demons, but it was still pretty solid.
The Rozalin stuff was kinda cringe tho ngl
@@Caspicum I liked the Rozalin weirdness in all honesty. Its the most memorable part of 2. That and Axel.
"1 of the most bland things iv ever xperiencd" thats pretty meta evn 4 u
I like to keep people comfy
Yooo
You were the fastest. Congratulations, my friend.
@@Caspicumpin this
@@Caspicum
Can you please set up a Patreon? Your work is underrated and I think it would help.
30:11 get subverted
GET SUBVERTED, PUNK
9:57 is it really? She just quit her second job
When they said menhera they weren't lying. holy shit
@@Caspicum i think this time its because Michaelcat got poached
despite everything, I'd still poach her if you catch my drift @@stevemanart
No.
ngl, Carnage Baal makes normal Baal look like a joke.
Mostly because Carnage Baal is a joke of a fight that pretty much requires you to have 24 maxed out goons with very specific loadouts.
I knew I couldn't take either of the Carnage bosses, but I felt like with a bit more of a grind, I could've taken the vanilla guy. That clip I stole from that dude blew my mind, the amount of time you'd have to sink just to drop him would be insane.
Carnage Baal can be done with a lot less grinding and fewer units than people tend to think, though there's certainly still grinding involved. The fight can be done with 3 attackers (who need maxed subclasses and extracts - using 3 instead of 2 lowers the overall requirements for each of them), a bunch of support units (who need relatively little building), and a load of Carnage Elixirs/Sundaes (for a curry) and Carnage shoes (for movement). It's possible to skip evility slots from Chara World, innocents, the Carnage quest chain (the one leading to Carnage Dark and the corresponding unique evility slot), and maxing items (though mass obtaining Carnage Elixirs still involves spamming Divers in Carnage IW to quickly reach the Innocent Town shop).
Carnage Baal should be possible with items, though nightmarish to prepare for and do. For some idea of how it might look there's a Prinny solo of Carnage Baal that uses items for most of the fight. It finishes off the Bits with Squad Attack though (since otherwise it'd take 4+ units).
Why does everyone think disgaea 1 and 2 have better stories. They really don't.
It's not that their stories are good necessarily, it's that the rest of the series' stories are so horrid and go absolutely nowhere that it makes 1 and 2 look like master classes in writing by comparison.
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honestly i'm at that point too ngl