Mate you are absolutely smashing it! You must be loving life. Really interested to hear what your interactions in a pack like that are like… are you all in the zone and keeping it short and to the point about target times/tactics? Or is there any random chat going on?? Cheers, Jack
Well done! HM pace - 3'14" / km Rule of thumb to get marathon pace - add 8 seconds / km Being conservative, first marathon - add another 3 seconds / km Estimated marathon pace: 3'25" / km Estimated marathon time: 2h24"05 I think you're capable of achieving this. No pressure to go under 2h30. And will still be a massive accomplishment if you go under 2h35. But, seriously, your current level of training and your recent HM PB point to a sub 2h25
8s/km*42.2 = ~5:40 ... nah ... that's WAAAAAY too optimistic for the marathon distance unless you are absolute elite. Many pros who run 1:02-1:05HM couldn't even crack 2:10-2:17 8secs is the THEORETICAL max under ideal conditions, perfect training / execution / pacers / weather .... which never happens. Since this is his first marathon, anything under 2:30 is amazing. The risk of bonking is quite high if he push his limits.
@@RunForPeace-hk1cu That's fair. Either way we're only estimating. And you're correct for being more conservative. No need to add pressure. But, its damn exciting to estimate a best possible outcome that is achievable. And I do think a sub 2h25 is possible. Probably 2h24'58 rather than a low 24. We saw Seth Demoor and Nick bester achieve similar results. Seth's HM pace leading into Rotterdam was 3'16". His marathon time was 3'23". Nick' HM pace was 3'08" and his marathon 3'20". Both Seth and Nick have a bit more experience running marathons than Ben. But even so, both Nick and Seth are still new to road marathons. Seth has a completely different training style to Ben. He runs many more easy kms. And because of his long career in mountain running, has great aerobic capacity. Its partly why he's dead on the 8sec/km conversion. Nick and Ben are more similar in their training approach. With Nick maybe even pushing it a bit harder than Ben more often. And his gap was 12sec/km. Let's see. Either way, respect to Ben for the tremendous effort he's put into training. And we're supporting his first marathon run regardless of outcome.
@@brrrrett I’m sorry, but I don’t think you know much about marathon running. You’re just reading off hypotheticals and what others say without any real world experience. Seth’s HM PB is 1:05 and he used the HM as his training run hence he ran much slower. Seth self admittedly confess that he’s not an marathon expert so I wouldn’t use him as “the template”. Seth is a much better runner than Ben. Sorry but it’s true. It’s pointless to try to project Ben’s potential based on other people’s progression and extrapolate that onto Ben. Ben is Ben. He’s not Seth or Nick. Ben is a newbie who happens to have a lot of natural talent but it’s raw talent. Nobody really knows to be honest. It’s a hit and miss how a person responds to the marathon distance. But looking strictly at 1:08 as his “theoretical max HM speed”. Anything under 2:30 is a good first time showing.
Mate that time is incredible! Shows the training is definitely working, no better feeling than putting the work in and you see it pay off in a race. Just got a massive half marathon PB myself from 1:22:04 to 1:16:47 obviously not on your level but slowly getting there! Keep on creating this amazing content mate!🏃♂️
Quality running Ben..love your channel man. Your progress since full.time youtube is great. More mileage n better tailored training has made you strong. I know your modest but be confident on marathon day and go smash sub 2.30. Good fuelling n sittn n a good group you.will cruise.
Cheers Ben. Really great recap of how the race was run. Always good to analyze where things went well and not do well but I would say that was a perfect race. Good to see the marathon training is having a positive impact on your other distances.
Congrats Ben, impressive as always! 😃 The time is fantastic but your positive vibes and strenght the last couple of km are probably even more important for the coming marathon.
@@BenIsRunning ah you answered my question. I’d genuinely watch a half marathon video like you out together of the parkrun you did! Would be fascinating to hear the interactions.
Would love to see a video on your experience with double threshold training - particularly on how much value you think it has on the sub-elite level compared to absolute elite of the Ingebrigtsens!
Definately think you can break 2:30 if the conditions etc are ideal on the day. Wonder how many runners can even think of doing around 2:30 for their first marathon!!!
I know it's a great opportunity Ben, But do you not think the Boston trip will impact your Marathon in Copenhagen? with only 4 weeks to go.....I'd say with a 68 flat half, potentially 2:23-2:27 is possible...even with sub optimal last 4 weeks a sub 2:30 must be on your mind 🤔That's good for top 20 ......although, I think you're wise to put out 2:34:59 and anything else would be the cherry 👍🦾🏃❤
Great video mate! Do you have any specific advice for me to how I should train for a half marathon? I’ve just gotten into running but I’m not too unfit. I can run a 20 minute 5k and I’m 15. And this past month I’ve been running about 50km a week. As I said I’m totally new to running recreationally, so I don’t really know how to train/ what to focus on. Any advice?
Congrats Ben, just amazing! Question: was wondering what your (or anyone else’s reading this comment) heart rate was like throughout the race? I am training for a marathon too right now. Did 6ks at Marathon pace today and my heart rate was hovering around 160-165 in the 5th and 6th kilometre, which is feel is way too high. Especially if I have to keep this effort up till 42ks. Could it be that I am aiming for too quick of a time? I’m about 3 weeks into my 16 week training plan. Appreciate any help. Thanks
Mate you are absolutely smashing it! You must be loving life. Really interested to hear what your interactions in a pack like that are like… are you all in the zone and keeping it short and to the point about target times/tactics? Or is there any random chat going on?? Cheers, Jack
Nice one Ben, I reckon an experienced marathon runner is looking at low 2:20s with that half so sub 2:30 is definitely what you're really thinking 😉
Yeah, if he keeps at it at this rate he's going to end up an elite at majors.
Ben, man, you’re so inspiring. I love all your videos.
Well done!
HM pace - 3'14" / km
Rule of thumb to get marathon pace - add 8 seconds / km
Being conservative, first marathon - add another 3 seconds / km
Estimated marathon pace:
3'25" / km
Estimated marathon time:
2h24"05
I think you're capable of achieving this. No pressure to go under 2h30. And will still be a massive accomplishment if you go under 2h35.
But, seriously, your current level of training and your recent HM PB point to a sub 2h25
8s/km*42.2 = ~5:40 ... nah ... that's WAAAAAY too optimistic for the marathon distance unless you are absolute elite. Many pros who run 1:02-1:05HM couldn't even crack 2:10-2:17
8secs is the THEORETICAL max under ideal conditions, perfect training / execution / pacers / weather .... which never happens.
Since this is his first marathon, anything under 2:30 is amazing. The risk of bonking is quite high if he push his limits.
@@RunForPeace-hk1cu That's fair. Either way we're only estimating. And you're correct for being more conservative. No need to add pressure.
But, its damn exciting to estimate a best possible outcome that is achievable. And I do think a sub 2h25 is possible. Probably 2h24'58 rather than a low 24.
We saw Seth Demoor and Nick bester achieve similar results.
Seth's HM pace leading into Rotterdam was 3'16". His marathon time was 3'23".
Nick' HM pace was 3'08" and his marathon 3'20".
Both Seth and Nick have a bit more experience running marathons than Ben. But even so, both Nick and Seth are still new to road marathons.
Seth has a completely different training style to Ben. He runs many more easy kms. And because of his long career in mountain running, has great aerobic capacity. Its partly why he's dead on the 8sec/km conversion.
Nick and Ben are more similar in their training approach. With Nick maybe even pushing it a bit harder than Ben more often. And his gap was 12sec/km.
Let's see. Either way, respect to Ben for the tremendous effort he's put into training. And we're supporting his first marathon run regardless of outcome.
@@brrrrett I’m sorry, but I don’t think you know much about marathon running. You’re just reading off hypotheticals and what others say without any real world experience.
Seth’s HM PB is 1:05 and he used the HM as his training run hence he ran much slower. Seth self admittedly confess that he’s not an marathon expert so I wouldn’t use him as “the template”.
Seth is a much better runner than Ben. Sorry but it’s true.
It’s pointless to try to project Ben’s potential based on other people’s progression and extrapolate that onto Ben.
Ben is Ben. He’s not Seth or Nick.
Ben is a newbie who happens to have a lot of natural talent but it’s raw talent.
Nobody really knows to be honest. It’s a hit and miss how a person responds to the marathon distance.
But looking strictly at 1:08 as his “theoretical max HM speed”. Anything under 2:30 is a good first time showing.
Absolutely amazing! 6 minutes PB! Mind-blowing! You keep me inspired and motivated Ben! I can't wait to see all the Boston footage!
Thanks dev runner! First video out Saturday
Another great vlog did you know while you are in Boston USA another marathon is taking place in Boston Lincolnshire on the same day
Mate that time is incredible! Shows the training is definitely working, no better feeling than putting the work in and you see it pay off in a race. Just got a massive half marathon PB myself from 1:22:04 to 1:16:47 obviously not on your level but slowly getting there! Keep on creating this amazing content mate!🏃♂️
Wow Ben that was fantastic execution! I'm so happy for your PB and you literally gave it your all. Cheers!
Quality running Ben..love your channel man. Your progress since full.time youtube is great. More mileage n better tailored training has made you strong. I know your modest but be confident on marathon day and go smash sub 2.30. Good fuelling n sittn n a good group you.will cruise.
Well done. You smashed it!
Great video! 2:35 marathon would be really incredible for a first marathon. Hope to see a similar video then! Good luck!
Maaaaate! Absolutely killing it right now - can't wait to see that sub 2.30 in Copenhagen ;)
Awesome Ben! Appreciate the analysis. You will smash 2:35.
Cheers Ben. Really great recap of how the race was run. Always good to analyze where things went well and not do well but I would say that was a perfect race.
Good to see the marathon training is having a positive impact on your other distances.
Great job Ben!!! Always good when you can pull a super performance out of yourself and feel The Flow!!! Keep Pushing The Run!!!
Congrats Ben, impressive as always! 😃
The time is fantastic but your positive vibes and strenght the last couple of km are probably even more important for the coming marathon.
Great race and update. Good luck with the big one, with taper I’m sure you’ll smash it!! In amazing shape mate, inspiring stuff.
I love that you competed in that moment where you thought about conceding 5th place. So exciting. Best of luck in Copenhagen!
Great running.
Great recap, and congrats on the race. GL with training and Copenhagen
Awesome form Ben. Good luck
Another amazing race performance, looks a good finish too in the football stadium
Good work, brother. Strong as always! See you in December for UTMB Thailand 😉😂
Congratulations! Absolutely stunning result. Hope to be up there with you soon 🙌🏻
Great video Ben!
Amazing stuff
Nice one Ben, great time. Are you talking to the other runners about pacing during the race?
Occasionally yes! Mainly just encouraging each other like ‘cmon’
@@BenIsRunning ah you answered my question. I’d genuinely watch a half marathon video like you out together of the parkrun you did! Would be fascinating to hear the interactions.
Superb running and analysis!
Nice overview Ben! Enjoy the states!
Wow really well done mate! Keep it up
Well done Ben huge time a great finish!!
Text book! Awesome running
Would love to see a video on your experience with double threshold training - particularly on how much value you think it has on the sub-elite level compared to absolute elite of the Ingebrigtsens!
Training works it doesn’t matter what level you’re T
Wow man you're flying
Great running Ben!
14:25 see you in Copenhagen i am also aming for the same time 🙂
Hi Ben. Aiming for a sub 2:26 in CPH! Hope to run alongside you!
Consider some saltsticks.. it can be 20+ (celcius) cramps is an underrated risk
Definately think you can break 2:30 if the conditions etc are ideal on the day. Wonder how many runners can even think of doing around 2:30 for their first marathon!!!
Interested to hear what your fueling strategy was for this race, if you have the time bro. Keep smashing it.
That’s what she said
@@fastinradfordable lol
I know it's a great opportunity Ben, But do you not think the Boston trip will impact your Marathon in Copenhagen? with only 4 weeks to go.....I'd say with a 68 flat half, potentially 2:23-2:27 is possible...even with sub optimal last 4 weeks a sub 2:30 must be on your mind 🤔That's good for top 20 ......although, I think you're wise to put out 2:34:59 and anything else would be the cherry 👍🦾🏃❤
Sky is the limit, future olympic marathoner
Great video mate! Do you have any specific advice for me to how I should train for a half marathon? I’ve just gotten into running but I’m not too unfit. I can run a 20 minute 5k and I’m 15. And this past month I’ve been running about 50km a week. As I said I’m totally new to running recreationally, so I don’t really know how to train/ what to focus on. Any advice?
Congrats Ben, just amazing!
Question: was wondering what your (or anyone else’s reading this comment) heart rate was like throughout the race?
I am training for a marathon too right now. Did 6ks at Marathon pace today and my heart rate was hovering around 160-165 in the 5th and 6th kilometre, which is feel is way too high. Especially if I have to keep this effort up till 42ks. Could it be that I am aiming for too quick of a time? I’m about 3 weeks into my 16 week training plan. Appreciate any help. Thanks
Ben, do you feel like you could run a pretty fast half marathon in the Cloud Monster shoes that you recently reviewed?
A 68 half with no taper will easily get a 2:35,good luck
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Really useful to hear your strategy and breakdown of the race Ben, super achievement.