How far can a $20 graphics card take you?
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- Опубликовано: 15 июл 2024
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00:00 - Intro
01:09 - Brief intro to the GTX 960
02:03 - The significance of Maxwell 2.0 and the 900 series
03:32 - Used market pricing
04:04 - Popularity over the years
05:34 - Test bench configuration
06:43 - Benchmarks: 3DMark Synthetics
07:20 - Benchmarks: E-Sports and older game
10:00 - Benchmarks: AAA and modern games
13:19 - Closing thoughts
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CORRECTION AT 3:17 - you would need the AMD GPU to be at least GCN 2.0, which is truly a mixed bag. Check Techpowerup to be sure, as it is not as straightforward, for example, the R7 260X is 12_0 while the R9 280 is 11_1. This occurs throughout the 200 and 300 series AMD cards, but by the RX 400 series cards 12_0 becomes more streamlined.
Dude I can’t get over how much you sound like Sid from Ice Age
Hey Danny I live in Spanaway Washington, I’m 16 getting a job pretty soon, I was wondering if you know any good places to buy a pc from because we don’t have a micro center near us, (I want to be able to 1440p game/stream)
This is because the R9 2XX is just a refresh of the HD 79XX series that was based on GCN 1.0.
i love older parts whether good or bad it makes you appreciate the new stuff
The pandemic made me sort of a GPU hoarder. I want to have at least two back up GPUs and be able to make some cash if the chip shortage comes out again. EVERY GPU I had sold during the pandemic was for twice their value, IF they have at least 2GB of Vram to play something, even Esports stuff.
GTX 960s will set you back upwards of $100 AUD here in Australia! You can find RX 570s for the same price so I’d 100% recommend people pick up a 570 over the 960, if you’re here in Australia! Even 1050s hover alone that $100 price. Used tech prices are always wild over here lmao
It's a similar story here in Canada. Used RX 470/570 and RX 480/580 cost somewhere between $75 and $120, which is still good value considering what a new GPU costs. An RX 6600 is $300 or more and an RTX 4060 is over $400.
Well now I know where Best Buy got their $140 usd price tag. They're selling these in-store too.
@@malcolmmacdonald3597 I've held on to my 980ti's as I went to 1080ti's, 2080s's, then 2080ti's. I had predicted some problems with newer Cards. ( and CPU's ) Seems it was right to wait. SLI looks so 'Purdy'.
40-50 euros in Austria or Germany for this card.
Is that in USD?
I ended up liking a lot the Maxwell architecture. I managed to get a GTX 960 4GB, and I like how it runs.
Still using it today. Great card for my needs
Had a chinese refurb of this card for a little over 2 years. Played everything I needed on it, the fact that I coupled it a 17" CRT monitor helped a lot. It was a great experience, especially because it was the last line of cards to support native VGA, so older games also looked the best with that couple, but modern games, as shown here, weren't ever considered unplayable. I passed it on to a friend who built his first PC on a budget, and he's definitely gonna extract a little more use out of it. I actually plan on getting it back, whenever he buys a more modern GPU!
😊 yes that right, 700 and 900 series was the last year the video cards still had all the old video output such as DVI-I DVI-D and VGA, nowadays you need to use adapters that converts the signal back to analog
I went from a gt1030 about 3 years ago to a rtx 3050 and just a few weeks ago went to a rx7800xt. Complete night and day 😂
😏👍 you Leveled Up
Nerd on a Budget, Your videos always make me happy, so I subscribed!
I have that exact card. I keep it for trouble shooting if I ever need to. It always worked very well and I used it as a daily driver up to 2020. Great Video Danny!
Love your videos, and particularly the videos where you look at older hardware to see how useable it can still be. Interesting to see the 960 mostly being capable of playing modern games. Several years back, the play would've been to slap a 750 ti into an i5 2400 Optiplex on a tight budget; now maybe the play is a 4gb 960 into an i5 4770 Optiplex.
I'm currently using a 1050Ti, but the biggest gaming I do is Diablo 4/WoW, so it suits me fine.
😊 it was my first card, i still have it but i use it now just for benchmarking and testing and doing comparisons
I have a 1050 non-Ti, but it has 4GB and it's a single slot, half-height card. Weird, I know.
@@SeeJayPlayGames thats a rare bird, keep it 👍
@@MrSamadolfo it's a SRhonyra (SONGREY) and I got it new for just under $100 after tax... regular price on it was around $165, so like 40% off; killer deal. It's got a blue shroud and a blower fan and it's cute as heck, though it's in an Optiplex 3020 SFF so you only see it if you pop the case. It replaced a GT 1030 that I had used for a few years. Glad to have about 2X the performance + NVENC.
@@SeeJayPlayGames interesting, sounds like a blue Radeon W workstation card 🤔
great video as usual. I wonder if u ever think to try out the gtx 590 in 2024 (except u did and i missed it out)
I would if I could get my hands on one at a good price, they're just so expensive for such an old card because of the novelty, not because they're actually that powerful. I just checked ebay and they're going for about what 1080Ti's go for right now lol
watched you in 2017 nice to see you again mr budget i just got back into pc gaing after collage and happy to get some 2017 vibes back thanks again for the video still have my 1080 asus strix works great to this day fortnite 320fps is nutty on a 1080
Great video 👍
My first GPU was the EVGA GTX 960 SSC and was able to run GTA V on Medium to High settings at a somewhat stable 60 fps. But I probably could've gotten better performance out of it if I had a better motherboard and CPU, but it served me well until around 2020 (for a whole 5 years) when I upgraded to the RTX 2070 Super. I still have the GTX 960 SSC packaged up and it would be interesting to give it a test run with my current build.
Awesome video Danny.
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Please help me out i have a AMD RYZEN 7 5700 NONX NIVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 4060 8GB WITH 16GB RAM is this a good setup? I only get round 120-130 fps on high or low setting on cod dont seem to change much
I have this same model with 4gb and its still doing work in my living room as the 4k streaming and web pc since it has an hdmi 2.0 port.
I still am using a 2 GB model of this exact card. Wish i had. 4GB but got it on a presidents sale in 2016 when i built my pc. Gonna build a new one for myself sometime in the next year but this card still served me well for what i play so far.
Would 1600X900 be worth it? Would it allow medium settings?
please do a video of MW3 and the 4? different upscalers it supports. Especially FSR3 with Frame Gen on, and off. Good video
My first pc was a prebuilt with a gtx 960. I remember getting like 40 fps on some games combined with 100 ping (rural town) I was still clickin heads though.
I'm just glad old gpu's still work, function, and can last as long as they do, planned obsolescence hitting computer parts has been tried time and time again, and been hugely successful with laptops
My 960 was a workhorse. 1080p, medium settings on almost everything up umtil a few years ago. Moved to an AMD RX6750XT and the difference is phenomenal at 1080p. Can shove everything uip to ultra on any game I choose. ;)
Coincidentally I got myself one a 2gb variant for 30$ earlier which is a super good deal as it usually goes around for 50$+ here. It was pretty worn out but I think it's still a good deal as it is running smoothly with no problems
This was a fun video to watch. I'd love to see more GPUs at this $20 or $50 price range. With being new to PC I never played on those older graphics cards so knowing more about it is dope. Great video!
I still have a GTX 980, sitting in a protective bag in the closet. I suppose it would be still useful. Should I put it back in service with the 4790K I removed recently? I am using a 12400F and GTX 1080ti combo now.
The 4790K was so good. Had that for a long time before I gotva Ryzen 3700X with a 6800XT
Still love these for an ultra-budget build for kids that just want to play roblox, minecraft and some fortnite (I always tell them to manage their expectations) and $20 is a bargain (I pay £20-£30 in the UK)
When graphics cards were really high I went to go buy one for $80 but when I got there it didn't work.
Still have two of these 4GB EVGA GTX 960 SSCs complete with the 2-way long EVGA SLI bridge in my 4790K build. It still looks sweet on my Gigabyte Z97X-UD3H-BK v1.0 motherboard with 32GB of Crucial Tactical Tracer Green/Red / Blue/Orange LED memory.
It's a system that's served me well for the past decade, and it's still great with older games.
P. S. Also one of the very last NVidia cards to still be compatible with Windows XP using unmodified drivers, as well as the GM206 it's based on being one of the first from NVidia to support HDCP 2.2.
😏👍 Cool, I also have a Devil's Canyon paired with a Red Devil 5700 XT 🔥😈😈🔥
I started collecting (hoarding) a few older cards, mostly because I just got into PC gaming (I'm in my '60's) and have never had the experience of using old hardware before. I purchased a really clean Gigabyte GTX 960 Windforce in the original box that is stamped refurbished for $18. I also got a Sapphire Tri X R9 290X same condition in OE box . Both benchmarked decent for their age and can play the older titles, many of which I never have played yet lol. There are still some good older cards for those on a budget and just starting out. I have put together two PC's. One has the Asus GTX 1060 6GB paired with an I7-6700K and the other runs an XFX R9 390 8GB with an I7-4790K. Both produce good playable results for me.
I have the msi variant that I use for the backrooms and older games that run older unreal engine because I have a a770 and it crashes on some of those games so it just sits idle in my system untill we play it
I'm definitely looking forward to getting this card, since my current one won't stop crashing after several weeks of trying to get it to work. The moment I installed my graphics drivers, the PC instantly crashed. So it's the GPU. Looking forward to getting this one now that you posted this video, super helpful for my current budget.
Sounds like your gpu, current one, might have been a mining card, meaning the vbios might be flashed to a mining bios...which you can flash back to original bios using gpu flashing software. Might not need a new card. I had a mining rx 570 8gb....did the same thing. a mining bios will not accept the actual drivers. Worth a look anyway. Finding the original bios might be a pain...took me forever to find it. keep in mind that old cards are more likely to be used in mining.
In the last 11 years i've gone from 960 to 1060 6gb to 2080 TI .. all used. Still no real reason to upgrade from 2080 Ti for 1440p
2080 ti performs around the 4060 ti or 3070. I would upgrade next year when the next gen comes out, the used market will have a lot of cards cuz ppl want to upgrade.
@@arnavreddy443 honestly feels better than those cards. But I lock 60 on all games. No need for high fps for single player stuff. I will prob go 40 series a year after 50 drops :)
@@Meerlu Yep exactly what I meant, wait till next gen and then there will be a lot of 40 series cards on used market
@@arnavreddy443 word :D
@@Meerlu alright man , have fun gaming ! I'm gonna get my first gaming pc at the end of the year with and 8000 release. Either 7900 xt or 8800xt from the leaked specs atleast
6:17 oh trust me, I’ve cranked up the settings on a lot of games that know my system cannot run at all, and I would run that unstable very low frames, but since my settings were maxed out, I was happy😂
Great video Danny Boy!
for single player rpg games like Cyberpunk, 60 fps for me is totally fine, but when it comes to esports games like dota 2, if the game starts going below 120 fps it becomes very noticeable (i play @1440p 240hz) and im so used to how fluid that framerate is i just cant unsee the game being that smooth.
3:17 Not always true, some RX 200 Series cards are GCN 1.0, which only has an 11.1 function level.
Good catch! I was mistakened in that statement, and it would need to be at least an R9 290 and R9 380 or newer, will correct it in a pinned!
seems like a steal at $20! Have you considered doing an Best GPU under $50 video? RX460, K4200, this card, RX980 RX580 4gb? Great video.
I have a relative who a couple years ago needed a system for web surfing, e-mail and some light gaming. I paired a 12100f and my old 960 4gb with it. She plays Skyrim and a few other older titles on it. It still works just fine and meets all her needs.
How will it perform for Apex legends..60+fps?
evga 1070ti had same alphabet soup, when i looked for a used one in early this year. But i was using a 960 in an
alienware alpha r2 until 2022.
Where can i get one for the same price bro?
Used this card up till 2024, got myself a RTX 4060 Ti and built a new pc.
In my time of using this card it was alright, but when I noticed being restricted to certain settings and almost every game running at 40-30 fps I couldn't handle it anymore, I wanted to feel higher frames and have a competitive advantage, personally, it's an alright card if you are playing older titles or singleplayer games, but if you play newer competitive games that require a decent PC to get 60, just don't bother.
But using this thing for 2 years it go me through, and I definitely wasn't mad with the performance of some games
This video was incredibly nostalgic for me as the GTX 960 was the first graphics card I ever had the pleasure of owning. It was installed in a prebuilt that my parents bought me as my first ever system back in 2015. I was only 12 years old at the time!
Im still using my gtx950 to power 4 monitors in my sound booth at church. These are great alternatives to onboard graphics. Id rather use the graphics of a 960 4gb than a ryzen 5600g
Impressive is what I think, didn't think it would perform as well, can it put up as high fps as a 4060 no but as u point out it is in that decade old time frame so u got to cut it some slack.
You barely look older than the card -- what is your secret???
Excellent video. Loved the format and super high quality. Also, that test bench is cleannnnnn
also, $20??? I would absolutely buy one for a budget build if I was doing it for someone who doesn't play AAA titles (most of the people I know personally)
i had the 2gb version of the 960 msi gaming one
I'm actually really impressed with how well that held up in the modern games. Probably wouldn't have even considered that low tier of that old of a graphics card these days, but for $20, it actually is pretty insane how well it's held up. The RTX 3000 and 4000 series cards are pretty insanely powerful, so it doesn't surprise me that the 4060 performed comfortably 3-4x better than the 960, but if you have to build something for $100, it actually seems like a compelling offer. Only problem is, I just checked and it seems like in my area, and even what I found on Ebay, people are asking more like $40-50 for these things, which seems a little steep to me. $25-30 seems fair to me given the age, and the limits this card will have, but it's hard to justify spending $50 while other cards are on the market for similar prices.
Ah the gtx 960 , my first gpu which I played with a 768p monitor . It was a trooper and still is in my dad’s pc lol . Now I’m rocking a rx 6800 xt and a 1440p monitor , MASSIVE difference but still 2015 were simpler times
I still have a build running a fx 8350 and a r9 290x
My first "serious" card was a 960 2G which I then replaced with the 4G version and it was a very good card for the day price to performance was ok, then went to the RX580 8G for a nice boost then the RTX2070Super for ray tracing which was a disappointment then decided to forget about ray tracing and now have an RX6800 16G which is amazing and runs anything I can throw at it
😊 My first cards were a 750ti, 950, 1050ti, RX580
I won an auction for a 970 for $25. It is another league :-)
The 1060 6GB is very expensive for what it is. It is mostly the same as the 970 but the 1060 is required for Forza Motorsport and Alan Wake 2.
Well, it also adds support for adaptive sync.
Would this be usable as a streaming PC? I have a spare 5600x and motherboard just don’t have money for a second good gpu
What's your budget? I just picked up a 1050ti the other day for 40 bucks on ebay.
I think incorporating some more current freebie games into old card benchmarks like this (stuff like Wuthering Waves/Honkai Star Rail) could help more people decide if this has enough juice to play average F2P games, since it's got a bit of a higher baseline requirement than something like League of Legends, but it's still an approachable game and a good target for entry level. You can modify the config database in that to run up to 120fps so if it's getting more than 60fps you'll be able to see it more clearly, and I think you just edit a registry key for HSR to set that to the same.
Nothing wrong with low settings and a little FSR if your working with £20/£30 for a GPU! At the end of the day it’s the difference between playing and not playing games so 👌🏼
I still use Rx470 and rx480's for my flips and am quite surprised at what they can still accomplish. Just goes to show you really don't need to drop a ton of cash to have fun.
Got the exact same card for the exact same price yesterday, neat
960 is mentioned as the very minimum GPU for Oclus CV1, but I wouldn't try to run VR on it. 970/1060 is fine for some games. 1080 can run most games and 3080 almost every one at highest quality.
I used to play the original counter strike, gta SA, battle realms, and warcraft 3: dota for countless of hours in an internet cafe back then growing up.
And now I have an RX 7800xt computer than can ran pretty much any game I want in the comfort of my home. So yeah I know where your coming from.
There was a large period of time where I was happy if a game just ran. I remember having to heavily edit the ini file for Diablo 3 just to run the game. There were a few boss fights I couldn't even complete because the frame rate was so bad.
I currently have a Ryzen 5 7600X and RX 7900 XT. I play at 1440p and aim for 165+ FPS in any game I play. If it means lowering some of the settings to hit that mark I'll do it. With that said I am completely fine playing a game at 1080p 60 fps if I had to.
It boils down to what you can afford and what you're used to. For the majority of their lifetime video games have ran at 30 FPS on consoles and no one really cared.
I still have my Gigabyte gtx 970 windforce (3 fan model). It still works and plays games (lower to lowest settings of course). I replaced it with a 2060 about 2 yrs ago. My 970 sits in a display case because a decade old or not, that is still one impressive looking gpu and people do like to look at it. I adored that card so much I just couldn't drive it to it died. I want to have the last working 970 on the planet eventually, lol.
in my region they sell used gtx 960 around 80-90$, crazy
Seeing this video while i'm in Africa (Gabon) makes me a bit sad because i want that 960 just to be able to play some old games (like Skyrim)... One day i'll have something better than my intel uhd 620.
don't you have lower tier alternatives? not even an HD someting? R7 something? GT something?
You can definitely play Skyrim on intel uhd 620 graphics.
@@MrSamadolfo the GT 710 is around 100usd so it’s not even worth it (I’m 16yo and I’m doing some reselling to get one day something like a Rx 570)
Rx 480 is the goto or R9 380
I upgraded my GTX 970 to a RX 9700 XTX! the difference is day and night, even before upgrading CPU [as old as the 970] so the card isn't tied up and choked like it is now
the change was made because ye old 970 was running out of memory in most of the games I play, next time there is a good discount I'll get the rest of my PC so the card can run free.
The problem with older gpus, although cheap and very doable to light to medium modern gaming, within reason of course, the main issue is the power requirements for older hardware rivals current high end hardware, in the long term might be a very large negative, so always try to keep that in mind!
What happened to the noab intro?
The one with the Carlton dance? O man I havent used that for YEARS, youtube as a whole kind of shifted away from those types of inro title screens, so i adapted with it
I got tired of playing every new game on low so when I upgraded it felt like I was going from integrated graphics to dedicated gpu
$20 old GPUs all day here in Portland, I can't help to buy them just for nostalgia. I just picked up a RX 560 and RX470 for $15 each.
I still use the 960. It's a beast. But with this WIN 10 thing I will upgrade it to 4060 (whole PC upgrade (and it's just a "Budget PC"))
I saved up for a year and a half. Went from a MSI GTX 1060 Stealth to a MSI RTX 4090 Raider. This gives me high hopes that my rig will last A LONG TIME.
im still running a GTX 760 with my i9-9900k
it runs every game I own
One of the things these old nVidia cards down to the 600 series can still do is CUDA.
gtx 960 4gb same model to asrock challenger rx 6600
Respect for that little card, still chugging along
My area sucks, people try to sell this kind of stuff for like $50 minimum lol
$20 is a true steal for any graphics card these days
😏 thats because 'it is' a $50 dollar video card, your not going to find a nice working EVGA two fan 960 video card for 20 bucks, at least not typically, usually $40 is the minimum for a working decent GTX card like a 750ti evga single fan, i would never let that card go for only $20
in my country this still sells around 35-50$
this was my first desktop gpu
No such prices exist in EU. These are closer to 40€ if you are lucky . Often listed at 60€ . Same with 970. It's actually the rx 570/580 that people are offering in abundance and that makes their 2nd hand prices pretty competitive. It's better to go for these at 50-70€ than wait an eternity for a properly listed but way older 960/970 .
That was my first gpu. That was a pretty good card for the price.
Still have my first gtx 950 to remember where I came from😅
im still running a GTX 970 with unholy overclock^^
with stock air cooled asus cooler, liquid metal, copper mod and original bios it makes a higher graphics score then many top 100 firestrike results. :D
btw... imagine a RTX 4060 would get launched for 199 bucks nowadays
I got 3 960s for $50 on eBay and it was awesome
I also still got mine :)
The minimum i would be aiming for at entry level would be an rx570, not worth buying anything slower unless you have a really low end PSU.
🙂 it really depends on the power supply, and the cpu for example is it a Core 2 Duo or Core 2 Quad, what kind of ram and how much do u have, what kind of motherboard, is it oem or retail or custom, or you happy just playing FEAR 1, Dead Space 1, GTA San Andreas? theres thousands of configurations out there now 😊
@@MrSamadolfo Yeah, you're right, kinda. I mean if you live in a country where you can only afford a core 2 quad then yes. But here in the UK for example. You can get like an old i7 4770 system with 16gb ram and a small SSD for less than £100. There's not much reason to still be using a core 2 quad for anything gaming related.
@@83Bongo 🙂 i see some kids uploading Quad gaming builds across latin america, but yes for countries in the west 4 6 7 intel gen stuff seems to be the budget segment, I recently picked up two am3 builds from a local marketplace mainly just to tinker and see how they perform, laster on i was thinking of picking up an x79 and x99 boards to see what they can do, have a good week broh
Thats my first gpu when i built my own first PC. Its actually good i got the 2GB Vram.
Maxwell is a great generation but it seems fairly forgotten due to Pascal being legendary. I think 960 is still usable but at least here the 970 is about the same price and I’ve seen the 4GB 470 and 570 and even 580 not cost much more.
Oof, i am running a gtx 970, guess it's time to upgrade
I use a GTX 760 windforce lol, only thing it doesn’t run is squad and arma reforger, gta 5 runs great
I have a EVGA (god I miss you) 3070TI and the 8gig vram limit kills me
I was never able to afford the 960 and I envy my friends who had these almost a decade ago. During that time I was usingthe family computer (Celeron) with the GT 610 which was really sad LOL... I then upgraded to a better i5 3470 PC which was a grad gift from my parents and bought a GT 1030 after which allowed me to play more titles. Then, I was able to save a bit more to buy the GTX1060 (used) as well as upgraded my CPU to a i7 3770 (used) which served me for a much longer time until last year which I then got a 3060 with a new Ryzen build but for in just a few months traded that up for a 3070 and then saved a little bit more to recently getting the 4070ti Super... It is one hell of a journey when it comes to GPU and PCs in general but I really appreciate the older ones, and even the entry level ones bec those allowed me to experience and appreciate gaming...
Xbox 360 was better value !
@@lucasrem never really interested in consoles, I am a pure PC gamer from the very beginning. Only had Ps2 and that was my first and last console...
he should of put it older rig vs modern rig
i wish gtx960 is also cheap in the philippines. man any gtx card is gold priced
duck station can make GT1 look like a masterpiece
There are lots of older games that are still as enjoyable as they were when new. You don't need the latest hardware to enjoy gaming.
Been gaming on a old 2gb gt 710
this just shows how much Nvidias name brand holds the value of the hardware, AMD equivalent to this gpu is r9 280x/380x and thos gpus were 30$ 4years ago while this gtx 960 was double of that