Watch This Before Sailing in Greece | S08E29
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2023
- Sailing the world can be dangerous. Storms, rogue waves, strong currents, and poorly charted waters. We are constantly forced to confront nature in these risky situations
And not only have I come to terms with that fact, its actually one of my favorite aspects of this lifestyle. There is something elevating about grappling with the harsh, indifferent aspects of nature and reaping the rewards.
But this week we deal with a very different kind of danger, one that I feel much less comfortable with… other boaters, lots and lots of other boaters. For the last couple of weeks we’ve been exploring the Southern Ionian Islands of Greece, which are a bit off the beaten path and not terribly crowded but now that we’re in the Northern Ionian Islands of Greece we find ourselves in one of the most popular cruising grounds in the world and unfortunately due to the delays we experienced by Isabella's medical appointments, we are here in the busiest time of year. Now if the hoards of boats were simply making these pristine anchorages feel crowded, I wouldn't mind so much but time and again we find ourselves forced into situations that are down right dangerous. So it begs the question whether visiting one of the worlds most beautiful cruising grounds is worth the trouble.
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Wooo i know I might be getting old when instead of Saturday morning cartoons. I get hyped for a Saturday morning project Atticus video. Thanks!
You are not alone. I make my coffee. Get settled in an watch PA. My every sat morning routine
WARNING, be careful what you pick up in Greece. They are very protective of their archeological treasures. Great video! The drone footage and underwater shots are amazing! Thanks for the anchoring lessons.
That shot of Des under the boat standing on the bottom and holding the rudder was awesome!
Jordan’s narration in the abandoned village is so amazing. He has such an amazing way with words that I think he needs to write a book about your travel destinations!
Totally agree. Both he and Ben from Sailing Nahoa are sailing poets… love ❤️ how they think!!
They should pitch their show to Netflix
I know little about sailing, but after several years of watching various RUclips sailing channels, I think you guys are the most conservative and carefully prepared of them all.
From how neat and tidy all the systems on Atticus are arranged, how ship shape and well cared for she is, to how much thought and margine of error you put into your passages and anchorages, you guys clearly take it seriously and put a ton of thought into what you are doing.
I don't know that I've seen another channel take a lesson on their own boat to refine new skills they might need. That takes a disciplined ego to know, and ADMIT, when you don't know enough and proactively seek out that knowledge.
The ocean is powerul and unforgiving, and you can't protect against every eventuality. But you can certainly stack the odds in your favor with the 5 P's. Prior preparedness prevents p**spoor performance.
If I ever get the resources and courage to try out this life, I'm definitely modeling after you guys.
It sounds like a universal problem to me. Sometimes I feel I’m the most considerate person on the water. Anchoring over my anchor, passing within 10 feet of my transom, playing loud music until all hours, waking all the boats in an anchorage, I shake my head in amazement every time I go out on the water. It’s a combination of ignorance, lack of knowledge and being oblivious to other people on the water. But I love it too much to not do it. It’s best to go out on the water during the week. Unfortunately, I have to work to support this habit!
You are not wrong to be paranoid about inexperienced sailors crowding a beautiful anchorage you guys are dealing with it better than most. Everyone on board looks well and that is the important thing.
In Malta we have thousands of sea urcin, however the black one are not eatable and you must find the coloured ones. Its the yellow stuf inside that you eat and one must know how to cut them in.half. Now in Malta they are protected. Enjoy your sail.
Hi Guys
Anchoring
The Gov. Or
Private Operators of leasing boats
Need to introduce safer ways of Sailing with the Steep & Deep
Sea Beds it's an obvious problem.
Eg Set up 20 or 50 Safe Swing Moorings in a Risky bay area & have surface Rotating Buoy's they can have advertising of the Shops & Services in area.
Like big Concrete Bases & Floating SS Chains.
Each Rental Boat to pay a Fee to set up more & maintenance
Use or Not use them still pay for safe area.
I liked the conversations in this episode. Anchoring is a big deal and it’s awkward to tell another boater you aren’t comfortable with what they’ve done
We have sailed the Ionian Islands a few times now and could relate to everything in this video! Thanks for representing the reality!
Imsomnia pays off when you get to be one of the first to see an Atticus video!! Good morning!!
As a Greek I can safely say its best visited out of season. Also, friendly word of warning, the Greeks can bit a bit strict about removing archeological artefacts from places.
Yes, also thought it was not advisable, when I saw you picking up little stones. You may think they are worthless as lying around, but they may be archeological artefacts and may land you in hot waters. You probably will end up in Turkey sonner or later and there the law is very strict. If they catch you and it is confirmed archeological artefacts, you will be fined and maybe jailed. So be very careful in removing anything and taking it with you.
Well said. You deserve the Like from the atticus more than the others.
Yes, for a country that has at least 5,000 years of history behind it, literally _anything_ can be an artifact. It's not only a recommendation to leave things where they're found but illegal to take any artifacts.
You should say something. Who cares if the idiots don't like it. Stand up for what is right and protect your family and home. You are a super nice guy so you'll do it with (more) respect (than is warranted). If I had a boat I'd want to be surrounded by folks like you guys. Love your videos and that SUPER cute baby!
I have anchored in Port Leone many times and it’s a nightmare, having sailed in those areas over many years believe me crossed over anchor chains is very common , sailing there is an ever ending learning curve , but I love it .
Those people in the Anchorage were like a bunch of people playing a video game on the the most difficult level the first time they've ever played. You don't get to press restart or put another quarter in the machine after you destroy everything
I totally relate…the Ionian sea is very crowded with chartered boats & Many skippers are not experienced so the risk is high.
I would not cruise at the high season there but if you find yourself doing so, I would moor at less popular bays, especially overnight.
Having Saturday morning coffee with my favorite sailing family. I LOVED all those stars you had. Stay safe and enjoy life! 💐
We have so much respect for you! Your commitment to each other, Isa, Oso, and the sailing lifestyle is stellar. And so are your video skills. Thank you!
This episode was like déjà vu for us. Completely agree with you about the challenges of anchoring in small, but beautiful harbors that attract a lot of other boats. We had a similar situation in Pulpit Harbor, Maine in Penobscot Bay. We arrived mid-afternoon and were able to find a good anchoring spot well away from other boats and moorings with 4:1 scope (less than I would like, but the harbor is well protected and the weather forecast was calm). Within a couple of hours, many other boats arrived and anchored very close to us with minimal scope. One power boat anchored directly ahead of us, another sailboat about 50-60 feet off our starboard side. We had a similar dilemma about how to address other boats - it certainly does create awkward social situations. I was very nervous all night and monitored the situation pretty much every hour through the night, so I didn't get a lot of sleep. In the last hour or so, the wind shifted and the sailboat to starboard was now behind us. However, since they put out much less scope, our inflatable dinghy closely tied off our stern was now tapping against their bow. Since we were about to leave and I was up at that point, I pulled in some of our scope to create some distance from the sailboat. When we weighed anchor, I was very concerned that the powerboat was right on top of our anchor and we had to get uncomfortably close to reduce scope enough to get the anchor to release. No tangling, but as beautiful and well-protected as Pulpit Harbor is, we were very happy to leave.
I am an experienced sailor, having owned many boats. But for my first time in Greece I decided to join a flotilla, despite my friends saying that I would find it too regimented and tame.
However, it was generally a positive experience, removing all the stress of planning ahead and finding a safe mooring each night. I did see some poor boat handling, but not within our group of 7 boats.
The Argolic and Saronic regions were too crowded in some places, so next time I will bareboat in the Sporades, and not in the peak season.
That night sky! Just beautiful! As always, thank you guys for sharing your adventures and your wisdom.
After sailing the americas, the Mediterranean seems quite different. More crowded, lots of culture, very beautiful, but you both seem more at ease in the isolated jungle lined bays of central america. After tourist season is over, youll have quiet little coves to moor in over there. Its bound to get better.
19:01 - Oso seeing THAT, and thinking: "Hey, Mama - check out that funky-lookin' dawg -
can you get me a set of those things he's got on his head?!"
Go South around the Peloponnese into the Aegean. It's much quieter and has fewer Charter Boats. I know, having recently returned after 14 years in the Med!
Wow! The starry sky is amazing! Always wanted to see that for a long time! Thank you guys!
Really love your videos and admire the fact that you guys make such well researched, informative, cinematic and fun content every single week! ❤
Well Jordan, in the boatyards in this region there are about 2000-3000 charter boats stored in the winter. That's the reason why it is so crowded nowadays.
We moved away from the Ionian Islands to the agean for this reason.
It's a lot less crowded here in the Dodecanese and the more North you sail the less boats you see...
Yes we’ve learnt to tell them if they shouldn’t be anchoring there and why and ask them to move even suggest a better spot. If they don’t move have a fog horn and high powered spotlight for 2.14 am 😱
Very entertaining video 📹. Greece 🇬🇷 is so beautiful ⛱️ 😍.
Isa looking at Jordan like, "Hey. Keep it down. Inside voices, I'm sleeping here."
Doing the "goat trail". . . .You guys ROCK!
Good Morning Project Atticus. I’m sorry but after watching this video I’ve come to the very quick conclusion that all the beauty is not worth the stress in dealing with the general sailing community. I would go insane from lack of sleep. Hope it gets better for you guys.
Suggestion: when you must share a mooring point, such as a rock as you did here, or in a where you need to lead from a bollard already being used by another vessel, the polite thing to do is to dip your line’s eye under and up through their line’s eye and then over the rock/bollard. If they need to unmoor first, they wont have to unmoor you to retrieve theirs.
La vostra bimba è sempre più bella e voi siete due splendidi genitori e anche due marinai in gamba! Buon mare e buona vita a tutti voi ... cane compreso!!!
Wow! The nighttime shots of the stars was amazing. Don’t know how you pulled that off, but out of all the sailing channels that will describe the nighttime sky, this is the first time I got to see what they were talking about! I’m a “city boy” and rarely get to see the sky in its full glory. Thank you for beautiful video.
Can’t wait to see more..😊
The nighttime sky in Greece is really something to behold. I never saw the Milky Way until I saw it there. Couldn't believe my eyes!
We should all be thankful for those people who rekindle the inner spirit.
The next time you want to find an abandoned village, send the drone up to scout the landscape. You can find the old walkways that way.
Beautiful starry night shots. Hopefully green sailors are watching your videos
Stay Safe folks. Many new sights. I enjoyed it as always.
Did anyone else spot the UFO's in both of the night shots? Possibly satellites or could be something else. My son and I spot every night but we dont get a sky like that with no light pollution. Very beautiful. Yall's entire production is stunning. One of my favorite sailing channels for sure.
14:40 you hit the nail on the head, I spent only a few charters in the Ionian and had seen enough. It can be pretty stressful in terms of lack of other skipper's seamanship. As lovely as it is, the cruising ground is pretty congested. Thanks for sharing 🤘
New boat, new baby, it's a lot on the line. It's normal to be overly protective rn. Glad everything was okay and you had perspective enough to know you over reacted. :)
Wow Amazing Thank you Jordan & Your wife your avid follower since the start of pandemic. Im Jan Tenchavez watching here Mandaue city, Cebu phillipines🇵🇭 once again thank you for sharing your vlog..
You are so much more patient than we are as an older person I have no more tolerance for crowds and peoples stuff. Good to do this while you’re younger!
Iconic Ionian destination
Don’t be shy to tell people to move. You have been there first and they need to anchor safely. I have sailed extensively in the Med and tell people to move all the time. It is your property, well-being, potentially life they put in jeopardy. You definitely did the right thing.
Jordan, I agree with requiring a higher level of competency for chartering but unfortunately it comes down to the all mighty dollar/euro. Chartering companies need to make money and they put the onerous on the client to be informed and responsible. As you saw, competency levels vary widely. Reminds me of that YT video called “Credit Card Captain”. Insane. Definitely voice your concern with others anchoring. Most will be considerate and ease your concerns but there are those few who will be complete a-holes and do what they want. All the best. Cheers 🍻
I did enjoy this episode since we are in Greece, Corfu, right now and are kind of those people renting a motorboat - even though I have a license but not so much experience - but: and here comes the credit towards you guys: I learn a lot from you especially anchoring and being aware of the dangers around you.
So, when we had the boat I realized that I was way more aware about anchoring thanks to you guys.
Keep up the good work especially “teaching” about stuff. 🎉
I hope you have a great time in Greece and all the other places you are going to visit with no harm.
God bless! 😊
I wouldn't sweat it. You saw yourself the problems with that guy anchoring near you with regard to your chain. totally ask him politely to move and explain the potential problem. Then chill. I have been in Port Leone when an unforecasted high wind came in from that direction so you have to keep safe. The Ionian requires the ICC license which will cover anchoring, scope and swinging circle. With that you should be able to work it out and know your circle will impact a yacht with line ashore.
Beautiful episode 🎉🎉🎉🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦
Beautiful Family, Beautiful World.
When I was in Greece back in April the marinas my cruise ship docked in were full of yachts and sailing vessels so I can't imagine how it is now.
There are many sailing channels but only few with this quality level of images, narrative and interesting content. I love seeing how much you guys are careful in showing a bit of history, geography and so on. The takes are amazing! Thanks guys! And for the ones who don’t know, Sailing Fair Isle is also an amazing one for those reasons! God bless you all!
Beautiful scenery and a fantastic video on the other side.
Love the Saturday mornings with you guys. The Mediterranean is beautiful. Any chance you'll sail to Italy ❤ on the Amalfi coast? The baby is already a true adventurer and Pup!
Looks tricky dealing with those green boaters, but the scenery is gorgeous! I've heard of people using anchor bouys and someone else thinking they were mooring balls and tying up to them. Makes for sleepless nights i guess.
Was watching the night sky shot of your mast head and spotted a satelite amongst the collection of stars! It was just to the right of the mast. As a kid, my dad and I would sit outside in the early evening after sunset and watch for aatelites. It has become one of my favorite things to do at night when at anchor.
Too the point, there is a problem with people who do not
have a clue about anchoring. good that you've raised the issue. enjoy the coming journey/sail
You've summarized the dangers and preparation needed for safe cruising better than any other RUclipsr I've heard from. I hope the "Green" sailors out there are listening!
Great video. A beautiful part of the world accompanied by excellent narrative.
SHOULD HAVE CALLED THE EGGS ON TOAST "NAKED GRANDMA" 😂😂👍👍🤔🤣🤔
I was always taught that there were two types of sailors. Old sailors and bold sailors. I was also taught that there were very few old, bold sailors. No such thing as too much caution. As you said, respect is important. When I anchored I always thought about if I was one of the nearby boats, would I be happy with the position. Served me well in 45 years of sailing.
Another enjoyable video. Y’all are one of my two favorite sailing channels. Beautiful baby too! Jorden, don’t forget when hiking there in the Greek Isles they have 8 different venomous snakes 😳! Just be aware. Maybe take a good walking stick with you🤔. Also, maybe if you want some”geography”tips get in touch with Sailing Holly Blue. They’ve been in the Isles for a while now. Stay safe and healthy ⛵️🇺🇸
I would be just like y’all, with the anchoring situation. Hey you have a lot riding in your vessel, and you should be protective of it. Not just monetary part of the equation, but your daughter is on board. “Mama bear” coming out in ya.
Hey guys, that was another great episode. I like these insights on anchoring and the stern to procedures. Jordan, you’re a great story teller. It’s always very engaging the way you’re explaining things. Thanks a lot!
yet another great adventure!
Can’t wait to go back next summer
Thanks for sharing another great video 👍👍🥰⛵️⛵️⛵️
Re: Sea Urchins, the Black are the 'males' and the coloured ones are the 'female' ones, so they are the ones that have eggs. As the orange edible part are the eggs, like caviar, etc... Also, they are fuller on the last days up till a full moon, as they start the release after the full moon.
👍 to the explanation with simple easy to understand diagrams. Stars are so beautiful ❤ the info you provide about history, etc. thank YOU 🇨🇦
Wonderful episode, love you guys.
Great episode; funny, educational and cultural. Cudos for raising the concern on charter boats. We're just about to buy into a yacht share on the Ionian with eyes wide open thanks to you.
Great explanations. Your paranoia wasn't paranoia at all; those other boaters put you at considerable risk as you very well explained.
Good job 👍 taking care of your family and 🏠. Don't listen to anyone the both of you are responsible and seasoned sailors. Oh baby gonna be super confident in life cause of mom and dad!! Good job!!
Love u guys. really enjoyed the series. I've watched ISLA mujeres episodes a few times over. Been living. here since 2007. Love "EL Milagro".. going there again, in a few weeks to receive family. It's always been a spot for me even being a local.... love knowing all your story and hearing 28:20 comment about anchoring in places that you just aren't sure about....it all comes home eventually and we are on the other side one day! Love for thy neighbor who simply doesn't know and we are always here to lend a hand and or ask if things are ok :)
What a great video!
Fabulous video!!🥰❤️
I’m a professional skipper, and have done some charter skippering among the Ionian islands. I can confirm every word you say about lacking skills. An annoyingly high proportion of “skippers” seem to think they’re in a car, and that anchoring is similar to parking. The charter companies are well aware of this and just gamble that the usually very light winds makes it ok, most of the time.
They still do get a lot of damaged boats. That actually seems to be part of their revenue stream. The renters have to pay for the damage, full price, and the company fixes it cheaply. The actual owner, who is usually not the company but a private person, doesn’t know and quickly has a completely worn out boat. Not all companies are that bad, but many definitely are.
You know it’s bad when you’re so flustered you say I’m going to have a nervous “wreck” rather than “breakdown”! Lol
That overhead shot catching the shore line, then transitioning to the starry night sky with the terrain kind of mirroring the previous frame with the shore line ... that was a cool transition
After 10 summers cruising the eastern and central Med I'd say avoiding the famous tourist spots is a must. Mass tourism simply ruins the experience. Fiscardo on Kefalonia and Vathy Bay, Ithaca were preferred spots but there are many others. If you head to the Aegean its a different story. Check out the Small Cyclades and Amorgos. The Dodecanese, especially the Lipsoi group, Tilos are wonderful
I chartered in the Ionian last May and it was indeed crazy how reckless people were. I was the only one doing an anchor watch often, despite it being needed imo.
Off again to the same place next week, can't wait!
Really good episode this week!
A lot of boats in the Ionian will be chartered, or some other form of holiday, so the skippers might be very inexperienced. They might be grateful for good advice.
Nicely done…. Extremely informative and fascinating. I wish give more for this is awe inspiring and creative show!
Thank you for the research and looking for your abandoned city. That walk though…. .
My favorite quote in this one was
“We are one Desiree’ away from the bottom”, and “Nice hunting skills”. Ouch on the choice of urchins . Your lil Angel face is growing so sweet she tries to talk in camera with you Mom. ( I’m a lip reader.) It’s such a cute journey for the childless sailor chick I am. I Did 28 nautical miles yesterday solo woo hoo ! thanks for Greece update… not on my way! 😢
Thanks just thanks again!
Sharkmaiden and Miko (blue Russian) in a tiny unmentionable boat.
Crazy starry skies 😮
Looks like lots of rental boats. However I find with racing I am far more comfortable with close boats than most cruisers while underway .
Very impressed with your productions….nice narration, music, excellent transitions and use of fading….love it.
Lefkas, meganisi, Kalamos are still in the southern Ionean. Northern Ionian is Corfu etc. You also have to realise that the Ionian is the play ground of the newly qualified day skipper. If you can't deal with a crossed anchor chain, Greece isn't for you. Putting a fender on your anchor means nothing. You don't have the right to reserve large parts of the bay. Be considerate, your long lines don't need to be 45 degrees, cross them over if you want springs. To deal with a crossed anchor - get the other boat to start their engine and slacken their chain, put a bowline in a mooring line, lift the anchor and snagged chain, pass the mooring line under the snagged chain and use the boat hook to pull it under. tie this to your bow cleats. Lower your anchor and it should come free. Then carefully lower the no longer snagged chain. No drama. No need for a dingy and no need for mucky hands. The issue on qualifications is not the minimum qualifications (5 days classroom + 5 days practical) its that you can easily "buy" the ticket without doing the course.
Good idea, Deseree. You can make a recording of a crying baby, then when a boat gets too close, just play it really LOUDLY.
Your assessments of untrained boaters seems so correct to me, even in small freshwater lakes! When I was a small boat sailor, I saw thing that were just ridiculous, but they just happen so I can imagine how they are in the ocean or sea! You are absolutely correct to be cautious! I hope your adventures remain safe!!
I think you should do all your measuring in Desirees from now on. It'd be a very accurate system with an immediately available reference point. 😁
Thank you 3, lots of info there and pretty scenery. Being unprepared is not good. Bye❤❤❤
The trick to sailing in the Ionian is to know which anchorages to avoid on which days:
Charters are Sat to Sat, but they have to be back in base on Fri (except Sunsail has started doing Sun to Sun). Which means that the radius of where they can get to and back gives you an idea of where they will be when.
Biggest bases are Lefkada, Preveza and Corfu. Voilà!
But I agree with Desiree, I always get worked up about boats being too close. Then you need to let them know as they are doing it and most of the time they will respect it.
Unless you come across oldish French sailors (they will pretend they don't speak English very often) and Italian (they are used to different personal space 😂) ....
However, this is the case in all of Greece and the Aegean is even worse. The amount of boats coming out of Athens is insane.
Except Crete & area but there they have the issue of constant meltemi winds and not enough sheltered anchorages.
Saw that Key West video way back, good times.
A lot what you are saying, abt charter boats, are true. But you have to remember that it doesn't count for everybody. Myself for example, I live in Finland and are sailing the hole summer. Been doing that for over 40 years. Once a year, usually in the autumn, I rent a boat in Greece. Usually just to extend the season, that is too short in Finland. With this I just wanted to say that I have also experienced the "once per year bad experience". Love your videos, greetings to the hole family.
Greetings from Auckland! Another great ep!
Thank you for your amazing videos. Reminds me of the time we sailed around the Greeks Islands and up the west coast of Italy. We saw so many near misses with boats over there. Sure keeps you on you alert. Anyway keep on sailing and building those fantastic memories.xx
The only limit to our realization of tomorrow will be our doubts of today.
Sometime you guys should cruise it Desolation Sound and Prideaux Haven in British Columbia. It makes the crowded anchorage you see in Greece look like an empty parking lot 😊
A healthy dose of pessimism is what separates the amateurs from true boatman, be ye sailor or a power boatman. Amen to you!