My i7 920 has been at 4.2 ghz from the start of its life. I said to myself once It blows up I'll do an upgrade. Sadly to this day it's still running just fine.
@Jeffrey Grindle same thing happend with my i7 960. Ran at 4.2 ghz since 2011. Started overheating since 6 months. Just bought a relatively cheap 990x. But a x5690 is also a good choice!
I have my i7 3770K to 4,3 GHz from 2012 till now. Still works perfectly fine with the last games, given the fact that I use only 1080p/1440p and I prefer high fps values. I paired it with a RTX 3060 and I think I'll keep it another couple of years from now.
@@jeffreygrindle7349 @gprnick It's your internal CPU thermal paste that has dried. Delid the CPU and change it, and bang, gone for another 10 years ! I've had the same exact problem with my OCed 3770K this year. I delidded and went full liquid metal, and now it rocks @ 4,4 GHz with only a max temp of 70°C while at full load.
I just upgraded from my x58 to x570 with an R5. That platform gave me 11 years of high end gaming and only needing 3 gpu upgrades along the way. First an I7 920 for 7 years then the last 4 with a w3690. What a run.
I have a Foxconn Flaming Blade GTI with a Xeon 5675 in a drawer... I guess I'll take it out and see what OC I can get... your videos are quite inspiring mate... X58 is still alive!!!
I wasn’t too surprised by the findings. X58 is a good platform still. Alas we must all move on one day and that day will be soon for me and my X58 system. Thank you Bryan and glad you are safe in the land of OZ.
I bought my first X58 rig in 2009. I7 920 D0+Asrock X58 Extreme. Im X58 user since then until now. Today I have rock solid ASUS P6T Deluxe(2011) and X5650 overcloked to 4.4GHz. I had many opportunities to replace this chipset in the past but I didin't see a good reason for that and later on I preferred to buy stronger graphic cards instead of. In the next year after 12 years Im going to the store for brand new ZEN 3 or Rocket Lake. X58 was the best part of computer tech I ever had. insane good value for money ratio.
GREAT video and analysis. The 3060 is looking like it will be a well balanced match for the x5675. I would love to see a video on the topic when the 3060 is released. Thanks for great content!
I actually have an old X58 Xeon in my current main rig. I have an X5680 with 6 cores and 12 threads paired with an R9 390 8GB. I bought a $25 HP Z400 OEM board to pair with it so that eliminates the possibility of overclocking for me. Even at stock clocks, it still keeps up with the R9 390.
I would love to have this motherboard, but then also the "Black Edition". Even today the Rampage Extreme III Black Edition are still ridiculously high priced. Update: I recently managed to buy the "Asus Rampage Extreme III" (2nd best Asus x58 mobo ) for just under 80 Dollars. If you want to buy an x58 Mobo, especially the "High Tier" ones, be quick about it. It seems like PC components retailers start to realize that a lot of people now are buying x58 hardware due the unbelievable high performance gaming potential in comparison to today's new mobo's. You can build an incredible game machine with nearly the same perfomance for just a fraction of the money when you choose to go for the x58 chipset. So don't hesitate, but buy as fast as you can. Especially when you are able to buy a "Asus Rampage Extreme III". I was very lucky with the 80 Dollars price tag. But even Ali express are now selling these mobo's for a whopping 250+ dollars. But this is still a fantastic deal, due the fact that other components like the CPU and memory are cheap as hell.
Spectre and Meltdown both require an extensive checklist in order to be executed. Plus, both have been tested in a lab in very specific environments, so in the real world, it could be even more difficult to execute with an upwards of a million different system configurations.
Gotta say thanks Brian, I picked up a PC with leaking AIO on Ebay for £60 in the UK with a Asus P6X58D Premium (has USB3 and Sata3 in it), got lucky because there was no water damage after some TYL and then grabbed an X5675 for £23 on Aliexpress after a BIOS flash it works great!
@@techyescity Well Bryan it went rather well.. I saved some juice in the tank for later, but I managed to score #1 with the x5690 in every 3dmark test! Here are some results www.3dmark.com/pr/374001 www.3dmark.com/fs/23686357 www.3dmark.com/spy/14394575 www.3dmark.com/spy/14394157 www.3dmark.com/fs/23686208
You can get add on cards for all those new equipment standards, plenty of PCI slots on a good x58. I plan to put a 10GBit LAN port when it becomes a thing, because I know my rig will still be running smooth by then. I already have NVME as boot drive and I'm OC to 4ghz. I still can play any game on the market.
amazing topic. I few years ago i run some tests using EVGA's SR2 dual X5675s paired with a 1080ti. My results showed that compared to top money CPUs at the time, the X5675 only was behind in games where the 1080ti can deliver more than 120FPS. Apparently in 2020 the gap got larger, but mostly relevant for owners of 120Hz displays.
Yo, i'm using an SR-2 right now with dual X5675's at 4.2ghz, with a 1080Ti as well. And yeah, 120fps seems to be the limit in most games, alltho in some ive gotten to around the 150-160 mark. (this is on high settings btw, and 1440p) What would u recon is the best gpu i can pair with it? I was thinking about getting a 3060Ti / 3070 for it.
Thanks for this, I was curious how the X5675 would fair. Thanks for the 'best fit' analysis! I wasn't aiming for an RTX3090, but now I have a better idea of the X58's limits.
Yes. And honestly, your monitor wouldn't even support this framerates, so I don't think you would even notice the difference, even if you are being bottlenecked by your cpu. I think only in future more demanding games, the difference will become apparent.
I can just picture the reaction of everyone who read the title of this video: Most of the tech community: "Oh no." Most of tech RUclipsrs: "OH NO." Tech YES Citizens: "OH YES!!!"
X5675 is awesome, yesterday i played Doom 2016 alla maxed out 4K and I hit the 60 fps cap all the time. X5675 4.4Ghz and 12gb ram, asus board, titan x (maxwell)
Me and my wife are both still rocking X58 systems. I got great deals on 2 Asus sabertooth X58 motherboards. We both have X5675@4.1ghz 24 gigs ram@1866 and 3060s. These systems still perform beautifully in 2023. X58 is truly something special and I don't think we'll ever see another platform like it again.
Before building my new Ryzen 5600x based rig. I used an old HP Z420 workstation I got for free out of an electronics recycling bin. It is a Xeon E-5 1660(first version), a 6c/12t cpu clocked at 3.3ghz, with 64GB of DDR3 ECC Memory(got free ram sticks and maxed it). It still runs perfectly and keep it in storage, you never know if it can come in handy. I am curious how my RTX3060Ti would work in that old thing....my guess pretty well considering what I saw in this video with a much older xeon. Thanks for doing something like this, a lot of us appreciate tinkering with older hardware.
I know this is an older video but Horizon Zero Dawn now runs on X58, currently playing it on an Asus Sabertooth X58 with a x5675@ 4.6ghz and a 6600xt. In the benchmark this setup averaged 78fps with a max of 137fps and min of 42 at 1080p ultimate quality preset. Highest cpu utilization during the run was 75% so this game does hit the cpu pretty hard.
The lack of AVX and AVX2 support is the kicker for x58. I have an X58 system and the only thing it cannot do is run virtual reality because of the lack of the AVX instruction set.
Great Video Glad some one other than me still likes them X5675's I am Still Running a piar in my supermicro X8DTH-6F bord (my First Big Boy server Build) Still Running UnRaid Solid As A Rock ! I Hooked my aunt & uncle up with my old x5650 with 24gb of ecc ram + a 240gb ssd & its Still Light Years Faster Than thair old pos...Keep these Cool Videos Rolling mate..!! Thanks for sharing..
I do like a bit of x58 😉 I have a couple of boards here, my msi can clock my x5675 to 4.5 no problem. My asrock board won't run the x5675 at all. Currently running a 2678 so I'll be very interested in that vid, nice work mate!
First bought an i7 950 and Sabertooth x58 MB back in 2010. It overclocked for gaming very well. I upgraded the CPU to a x5675 in 2015 and used it to run a plex server. The system has been running almost continuously the whole time. I still have plenty of performance overhead at stock speeds. The 950 is now on an MSI x58M in my htpc, and is also still running. That was a great generation of chips.
For very high frame rates, Socket 1366 and Xeon 56xx lacks PCIe 3.0. I manage to obtain two Xeon 5690, ECC 64 GB RAM, and ASUS Z8PE-D12 for about $135. Two Xeon 5690 CPUs and ECC 64 GB RAM were from decommissioned HP DL580 G7 rack server at less than $40. My current gaming PCs have Ryzen 9 3900X and Intel Core i9 9900K.
Asus p6t deluxe V2 + xeon 5660 + Rx580 8g + 30G ddr3 . I did the oc watching your tutorial (A great one btw) but lowered to 3.6 Ghz because low TDP dissipation (125 W). I have to say im very happy with the price-performance relation that this cpu can give. Only got like a month with it. Asus late owner sold me his mobo with original cpu and he says that he never used O.C. with it. The first reason of why i decided to build this pc: Astoundingly cheap!! PS: I´ll change the cpu fan for a cheap AIO this or the next week, so i hope to leave it to 4 Ghz and see how it behaves. So i have to say: thanks for the good quality content.
absolutely! my kids gaming rigs are HP z400s with x5687's paired with gtx 1650 supers, it performs well in all their favorite games. I had a z600 with dual X5675 paired with a gtx 1060, and only recently replaced it with a 10600k based system.
I love x58, thanks to you and your channel. I also have an x5675 setup that is working well with a snowman cooler. I do need to follow your guide and get a better overclock though. I am using an Asus TUF gaming motherboard
I have this setup with a x5660 This Motherboard - Rampage 3 is just amazing, currently 4.6mhz 1038 out of Cinebench R15... Love your videos, I am purchasing a 3080 once I can get my hands on one!
Great video! Have an HP Z400 with an X5690 and RTX 2060 Super and I was curious how a GPU with more horse power would run. Pretty impressive what these old Xeons can do. My setup runs nice for what it is - a 2009 Win7 workstation.
2023 and still rockin' an x5690 @4.6ghz... gonna get a 2080ti to replace my 1060 6gb and I'll be good for another 6-8yrs I reckon! See if I can rock 2 decades on 1 CPU!
Great information Bryan. I run a Xeon 1650V2 platform clocked at 4.2Ghz with 32GB 1866 reg ECC3 quad channel memory. Last week I took the jump to upgrade my GPU to a GTX1080Ti. The 1080Ti can be bought these days (in the US) for around $350 and it's performance seems to be the sweet spot for the Ivy Bridge-EP generation. I game at 1440p and FS2020 runs on high at 45FPS and Destiny2 books along at 118FPS. My biggest issue is keeping the GPU temps under control in the original Z420 chassis. 3d printed ducts and more chassis fan seem to be the way. Very interesting info about PCIx performance. Also something I didn't realize, SATA3 is only relevant for SSD. Regular HD performance is virtually the same between SATA2 and SATA3.
Just sold yesterday my HP Z420 .... the motherboard/Bios acting as a bottleneck for the XEON e5-1680v2 . So I moved it into ASUS Rampage IV Extreme. Now I can run the Xeon at 4.5Ghz ALL cores (not possible on Z420 ....) . I know this is a x79 not a x58 discussion . I do have 3 Xeon based systems in my house : 2 x X58 and 1 x79 . Long live budget Xeons .... By the way , did you replace PSU in the Z420 to be able to power on the GTX 1080ti?
It's crazy that this processor was released 9 years ago for more than 1000 USD and now you can buy it for 25 USD and it is still midrange. If I would be you, then I would probably buy all of these chips on Ali Express and put gaming systems together with nice profit and performance. (you probably do that besides youtube)
man it sounds nice hearing you say 2070 super as i sit here with my x5675 and 2070 super lmao! still finding a good stable OC as I was running i7 930 since 2010. Back then I had a x295 nvidia gpu! :P Been running my current evga x58 since 2010 and going strong. AVX instructions seem to be a roadblock that might increase and I hope not!
the intel cpu emulator will actually let you run avx software, funny enough, these emulate avx and fma, faster then amd's fx chips do it native... more so if you get a nice oc out of it.. HZD can be run, i have a buddy who does it on his SR2 dual x5690 setup... his niece a few weeks back, managed to get both chips stable at 5ghz with slightly lower temps, better memory timings and results across the board... (hes got an insane 192gb of recc 1866 ram in that thing, primocache with a 3.2tb fusion i/o flash accelerator for PrimoCache L2, thing boots and games faster then his thread ripper 1950x rig), he made her a deal, if she could improve his OC, he would build her a computer... shes very lucky...hes got an old x58 ud9 board thats never been overclocked, and he already bought a couple w3680's very cheap to play with, and the recc ddr3 hes got 6 more sticks of... is known to work with the gigabyte boards no less... so... shes got 96gb ram, a w3680, and picked his old Armor Case to build in after cutting the things board tray to make proper rear socket area access a thing... and a few other mods, she modified it to fit a 420mm AIO he ordered her(they got it yesterday they are building it this weekend), he already had an extra 1050watt psu he had her swap the fan in, because he stopped using it when the fans barrings started to make screeching sounds...), shes getting a 2080ti top end edition his wife swapped for a 3070ti that work ended up paying her back for since, she uses it for work not just playing games, and the 3070ti is more optimized with the software they use, something with the optix engine or some shit... for drives, hes setting her up with a 250gb samsung 850evo for windows and basic apps, a 2tb ssd for games and larger apps, and he decided to give her 4x4tb sshd's he still has a literal case of from back when they made them, setup in raid 5 on the intel chipet and the other 2 intel ports used for a pair of 1tb ssd's(hes sort of copying my build), she wants a burner so hes actually putting in 2, ones a very nice dvd/cd burner, the others a great bd burner thats not as good for buring dvd's or cd's (have to crank its burn speed down even on quality media...), shes also getting a flash accelerator of some kind, whatever they find a good deal on that will work..., and copy of primocache... with that much ram it would be a waste not to use at least 3/4 of it for cache... he also plans to give her an icydock hotswap for 4-6 or 8 2.5" drives and a hardware raid card that will add true sata 3 support, for he says its already in the case and booting, shes just using the onboard sata 3 ports for the games and boot drive, till they add the raid card and she can shift the drive to a much faster buss, (uses 8x rather then 1x pci-e lanes so...yeah...), i told him to just give her the 8x2.5gb and since he has ones that support SAS, to put the SLC SAS SSD's from a couple of his Sun F80 cards into the hotswap as a cache raid and just leave the games and boot drive on the marvel chipset, the ram+L2 across 8 slc sas ssd's would be more then enough... i found out later hes got a bunch of replacement sas drives for those cards, he works for a data center company and collects stuff he finds interesting..sadly he also is hard to convince to sell his friends..or anybody.. any of his extra shit... if he would... i would have one of those cards hes got that has a gig of recc cache onboard, connected to 8 of those sas ssd's in one of those icydocks in this rig... hell could put your boot drive on that AND games drive with, and still use i to cache the rest of your storage as well... but still... my testing... a cache using all that to cache the system to that raid, would be a better overall result, even if you setup the boot drive cache so it used no ram just ssd raid cache. i look back at some of the boards for x58 and genuinely wish i could afford to setup systems around them even today... sad part is many of those boards cost more then a much more modern board and chip that would make much more sense to buy into today... more then a new x299 board for example...
I think the X58 platform is still doable today in 2022. I have a Rampage 3 Extreme paired with a 2080ti, GSYNC Monitor 1440p and an i7980X...The only downfall that I have observed which has caused me to uninstall specific games is the single core and AVX limitation. This is where newer CPU's shine. Outside of that I max out 95% of all my games on Ultra ie the COD remastered games, BF1-4, The Witcher 2 and 3, F1 2020, etc. Thanks Brian for your insight as well. I learned a few pointers from your OC lesson! 👍
I'm rocking my x5670 stock with a 1050ti and 24gb of ram at 1333mhz in my 11 year old Asus prebuilt. Unreal that this tech is still relevant compared to stuff even 3-5 years before x58 was released.
I agree, the recommended use case for this CPU seems to be 4K gaming, you can save A LOT of money on mobo+GPU and buy a 3080. Although the SATA 2 and no AVX support really make this sort of build just a stepping stone until you have the money to buy a more modern platform IMO
You do save in up front cost, but you'll be paying more for electricity. My X5650 draws over 200W at 4.6Ghz. It keeps my office nice and warm in the winter, but in the summer months I have to crank the AC up or lower the overclock to keep the room temperature under 90F, 32C. I would not buy those Chinese boards. They have poorly designed VRMs. You'll get slightly lower overclocks and risk burning up the board.
Unbelievable. I ordert a MSI X58 Pro-E last week and want to order a X5675 from Aliexpress today. And than i see a X5675 Vid from Mr. Yes Tech. What a coincident :)
Just sitting here with a "new" X5670 system with a 980ti... got a Gigabyte G1 Assasin for 25 bucks and the chip for 14 on AliExpress, running it at 4,4 with a 12h stable Aida64 - Thank you Bryan for showing me how much fun this can be :D
8:35 - It is indeed a shame about the Asrock board supply because the X58 Extreme6 was a beast, indeed many tech sites started using it for CPU reviews instead of ASUS models. Mine has an X5570 atm, but I have a couple of other models to test at some point. I love the 4K results, rather blows away the whole modern narrative that one Must Have The Latest, but that's understandable, companies need to sell product. :D It's why Intel never produced an addin card using its own SATA3 chipset, lots of older mbd owners would remained on older hw for much longer. Having newer tech obviously matters for some games (usually those poorly coded or where people go crazy for optically irrelevant frame rates), but definitely not for others. I found the same thing with an oc'd i7 870, even at 1440p the gap between it and a 6580K or Ryzen is often surprisingly small. At 1080p the difference is much larger in some cases, but with a fast GPU the frame rates are so high that for many it likely doesn't matter; there will just be a ceiling beyond which the potential of a more powerful GPU is increasingly left on the table, but for numerous scenarios it's still perfectly viable up to at least a 1080 Ti. X58 does lack modern mbd features of course, but one can get round many of those with addin cards (because of the plethora of PCIe lanes available), including PCIe adapters for NVMe and in some cases BIOS mods to support NVMe booting (just like P67, Z68 and especially X79 with its 40 available lanes even with a mere 4820K), though the Samsung 950 Pro and certain other models have their own boot ROM and will work anyway. One won't get the performance of a modern Gen4 AM4 setup, but one thing it will provide is a lot of fun sorting it all out, getting the very most out of old tech. X58 uses more power of course, but I'm assuming if someone's bought a 3080/3090 then they don't much care about that anyway. ;)
Great comment, if you mean by nvme support with adapter m.2 nvme on pcie x4 with use of clover program to emulate uefi bios on startup? Was reading abou this but decided to buy sata ssd, sadly on sata2 its kinda bottlenecked but still pc responsiness vs hdd first startup was insane
@@96Bialy Alas I've not used (or heard of) the Clover program. So far I just keep hunting for used 950 Pro SSds. :D True though, even with SATA2 it's much better. I installed an 850 Pro in a friend's ancient AMD laptop and it was night & day.
So for people looking at getting this old platform the 980x/990x/x5675 & w3690 are the best ones for it. I'd recommend the w3690 its fully unlocked like the the i7. The i7's run on slower ram as well.
Finally went the X58 route as well! I picked up an X5675 + ASUS workstation board combo and overclocked it to 4.1 ghz. Pairing it with my 980Ti the results are incredible!
I am running X5675 now on my Alienware Aurora ALX R1 and my brother runs X5670 on his Alienware Aurora ALX. Only thing I miss is my other Alienware Aurora R4, mostly for SATAIII.
I'm running a x5675 @ 4.6GHz with a Vega 64. 64GB RAM and a pcie nvme slot. 11 year old motherboard that has turned out to be exceptional value for money. It even POSTs at 5GHz but is unstable unless I go above 1.45v. At 4.6GHz it is stable all day long with temps in the mid 40s, up to 60s under load with a 360mm aio (on air I could reach 4.4GHz but it was toasty). For 5 years the middle ram slots didn't work, but I fixed it with a USB microscope and some tweezers to fix bent socket pins. I also had to repaste all the heatsinks and remove all the gigabyte bling. It's at least twice as fast as the i7 920 I ran in it for years, and good enough to run msfs2020 high settings at 1440p. Will be gutted when the board finally dies.
Great video and very informative. Got into Xeon based systems after watching your videos. My newest machine is sporting dual E5-2650 v2s with an insane 128 GBS of RAM and an RX 570 8GB. Got an off lease Dell Precision T5610 from a local animation studio that is upgrading their workstations. Will be gaming and doing content creation on it.
@ 6;36 I absolutely, I agree. Both when new & 10+ yrs later. More so, I'd consider their plain but quality WS (Workstation) Series. The ROG were amazing new, but often had too many runs if on the used market. Not always, but often of sold off , the've been used & abused. Most WS lived a nice daily driver life & have most the OC settings you may want.
From hwo I read that, pure gaming at 4k and you'll be fine, simple as that simply because everything goes GPU route so for me, 3000 series with an overclocked one... I won't be upgrading my 1860v2 for years...
Well thanks for all your info! I'm getting an X5975 chip. I have been playing around with my old GA-X58A-UD3R and i7 920 from 2009 and I actually want more than 4.2 stable so I'm gonna try the Xeon. I could really use some 1866 instead of my 1600 but triple channel sets aren't super common.
There are only about 2 games that require AVX to play them. And also i already found, multiple patches/hacks, that make it possible top play those particular games on the x58 chipsets.
*great tip about the meltdown safeties. I'll have to check that out and see if it makes a noticeable difference.* Observation: the bigger cards still benefited vs the cheaper. You just called out when the price per system performance starts to have diminishing returns. Even with a modern system, a 2080 vs a 3080 is a substantial diminished return vs price. If you were taking an old x58 system and upgrading, every little bit helps, and a 3000 series card was averaging higher and still getting a slightly higher min. If that game you are playing is pushing going too low fps, the 3000 series will help keep 5-10 more fps vs the 2000 series. That could be the difference between good enough for a couple more years and forced to upgrade. As for myself, I am luck and bought an Asus rampage 3 extreme way back when, so I have usb 3, and upgraded to a xeon 6core running oc to 4.3gz. Most games are GPU limited (gtx 970) and still in 2022 most run a solid medium settings at 1080, unless poorly optimized. I know a lot of people too poor to afford what I have, and I also know quite a few with newer systems that struggle to keep up once I'm booted up. I'm certainly not limited on playing games, but It is a limitation on full immersion experience. Finally prices have come down, so a 3060 will go in this week. I would have gone for that modern AM5 4.6-4.7ghz 8 core system build (finally enough of an upgrade to be worth it), but I'm probably moving, so saving money toward that instead.
the problem with the x58 chinese boards is that it doesn´t let you to blck oc, only multipler unlock on "W" cpu, via windows, and even that has a limit.
My X5875 stable @ 4.3 and GTX1070 is still perfect for 1080p. And now I know if I ever want to upgrade to 2k or 4k, all I need is just another GPU. Thanks!
Most Gigabyte motherboards have too old microcodes in order to overclock X5675 and other Xeon processors properly. Best overclocking results can be achieved with a modded BIOS that has the newest microcodes inserted.
Built my bro a X79 platform pc this month and having never used X79 (2011 socket) i was shocked at how good it performed a 3930k paired with a 1660 Super. Amazing what the old stuff can still do if given the headroom to jump :)
All tech youtuber : you need at least 10900k to run 3090
Tech yes city : not for me
pshh grab a phenom 9500 and OC it to 100ghz, ez clap.
That’s why we watch his channel. I was shocked by the findings in 4K.
He is big on The Bargain.
Pete Nielsen Bargains are good. (:
@@VexxedSR I think you mean a am3 athlon x2
We both did X58 with modern GPU today LOL
Great minds think alike :)
You both are the masters of X58 👍
Lol, when channels i watch together comment together. Yay aussie! :)
Did you do yours on stock clocks? pretty hard to get a X58 overclocking board and it's nothing cheap. I'll have a look
@@thomassmith4999 W3680 with Chinese modern motherboard. It didn't OC very far 😜
My i7 920 has been at 4.2 ghz from the start of its life. I said to myself once It blows up I'll do an upgrade. Sadly to this day it's still running just fine.
Dammit sir thats a nice chip. Like my Toyota with 410k miles. I love it.
If the cpu pops and the rest of the components are fine, get a cheap x5670 and keep it as a backup system.
@Jeffrey Grindle same thing happend with my i7 960. Ran at 4.2 ghz since 2011. Started overheating since 6 months. Just bought a relatively cheap 990x. But a x5690 is also a good choice!
I have my i7 3770K to 4,3 GHz from 2012 till now. Still works perfectly fine with the last games, given the fact that I use only 1080p/1440p and I prefer high fps values. I paired it with a RTX 3060 and I think I'll keep it another couple of years from now.
@@jeffreygrindle7349 @gprnick It's your internal CPU thermal paste that has dried. Delid the CPU and change it, and bang, gone for another 10 years ! I've had the same exact problem with my OCed 3770K this year. I delidded and went full liquid metal, and now it rocks @ 4,4 GHz with only a max temp of 70°C while at full load.
This is the type of content I want to see.
I just upgraded from my x58 to x570 with an R5. That platform gave me 11 years of high end gaming and only needing 3 gpu upgrades along the way. First an I7 920 for 7 years then the last 4 with a w3690. What a run.
it's Bryan doing his thing
much love mate
Now these are the types of vids we love to see!
Indeed ☺️
No joke was literally on the homepage wondering if Tech yes had uploaded a new video..
X58 Hit like. My X5650 took a hammering OC to 4.5ghz for years and years
Yeah mines on a safe 4.2Ghz but my house gets very hot. Still running it now lol. Can't kill it. Have had it upto 4.7Ghz before.
Mine won't hit even 3.9 ghz :/
My X5670 clocked to 4.0ghz has been serving me pretty well still, and now i know not to get Horizon Zero Dawn due to lack of AVX
Apparently it works with new patch. There is a vid of a guy running it on 1366
@@TheScientificSkeptic yes, its running
Yeah you need the 1.10 update im rocking it too with x5570
I have a Foxconn Flaming Blade GTI with a Xeon 5675 in a drawer... I guess I'll take it out and see what OC I can get... your videos are quite inspiring mate... X58 is still alive!!!
I wasn’t too surprised by the findings. X58 is a good platform still. Alas we must all move on one day and that day will be soon for me and my X58 system. Thank you Bryan and glad you are safe in the land of OZ.
love these old XEON builds... great to see!
X58 GOODNESS !!! XEON MADNESS !!! WITH RTX3090 ?!?! ONLY TECH YES CITY!!!!
I bought my first X58 rig in 2009. I7 920 D0+Asrock X58 Extreme. Im X58 user since then until now. Today I have rock solid ASUS P6T Deluxe(2011) and X5650 overcloked to 4.4GHz. I had many opportunities to replace this chipset in the past but I didin't see a good reason for that and later on I preferred to buy stronger graphic cards instead of. In the next year after 12 years Im going to the store for brand new ZEN 3 or Rocket Lake. X58 was the best part of computer tech I ever had. insane good
value for money ratio.
GREAT video and analysis. The 3060 is looking like it will be a well balanced match for the x5675. I would love to see a video on the topic when the 3060 is released.
Thanks for great content!
I actually have an old X58 Xeon in my current main rig. I have an X5680 with 6 cores and 12 threads paired with an R9 390 8GB. I bought a $25 HP Z400 OEM board to pair with it so that eliminates the possibility of overclocking for me. Even at stock clocks, it still keeps up with the R9 390.
I would love to have this motherboard, but then also the "Black Edition".
Even today the Rampage Extreme III Black Edition are still ridiculously high priced.
Update:
I recently managed to buy the "Asus Rampage Extreme III" (2nd best Asus x58 mobo ) for just under 80 Dollars.
If you want to buy an x58 Mobo, especially the "High Tier" ones, be quick about it.
It seems like PC components retailers start to realize that a lot of people now are buying x58 hardware due the unbelievable high performance gaming potential in comparison to today's new mobo's.
You can build an incredible game machine with nearly the same perfomance for just a fraction of the money when you choose to go for the x58 chipset.
So don't hesitate, but buy as fast as you can.
Especially when you are able to buy a "Asus Rampage Extreme III".
I was very lucky with the 80 Dollars price tag.
But even Ali express are now selling these mobo's for a whopping 250+ dollars.
But this is still a fantastic deal, due the fact that other components like the CPU and memory are cheap as hell.
X5650 @ 4.3 with a 1080ti here. Whole system cost 700 usd all in and at 1440p 95hz ultra in games its cool.
Spectre and Meltdown both require an extensive checklist in order to be executed. Plus, both have been tested in a lab in very specific environments, so in the real world, it could be even more difficult to execute with an upwards of a million different system configurations.
Gotta say thanks Brian, I picked up a PC with leaking AIO on Ebay for £60 in the UK with a Asus P6X58D Premium
(has USB3 and Sata3 in it), got lucky because there was no water damage after some TYL and then grabbed an X5675 for £23 on Aliexpress after a BIOS flash it works great!
Hell Yes! my kind of content! Going to bench my sr2 tomorrow, x5690 x2, and 2080ti kingpin x2 going for the sr2 3dmark records!
Oh nice let me know how that goes!
@@techyescity Well Bryan it went rather well.. I saved some juice in the tank for later, but I managed to score #1 with the x5690 in every 3dmark test!
Here are some results
www.3dmark.com/pr/374001
www.3dmark.com/fs/23686357
www.3dmark.com/spy/14394575
www.3dmark.com/spy/14394157
www.3dmark.com/fs/23686208
The power draw of the 3080 series is enough to flat line the output from your solar panels on a good day !
I was waiting for this lol gonna keep on X58 until stuff like the AVX exceptions become the norm
You can get add on cards for all those new equipment standards, plenty of PCI slots on a good x58. I plan to put a 10GBit LAN port when it becomes a thing, because I know my rig will still be running smooth by then. I already have NVME as boot drive and I'm OC to 4ghz. I still can play any game on the market.
amazing topic. I few years ago i run some tests using EVGA's SR2 dual X5675s paired with a 1080ti. My results showed that compared to top money CPUs at the time, the X5675 only was behind in games where the 1080ti can deliver more than 120FPS. Apparently in 2020 the gap got larger, but mostly relevant for owners of 120Hz displays.
Yo, i'm using an SR-2 right now with dual X5675's at 4.2ghz, with a 1080Ti as well. And yeah, 120fps seems to be the limit in most games, alltho in some ive gotten to around the 150-160 mark. (this is on high settings btw, and 1440p) What would u recon is the best gpu i can pair with it? I was thinking about getting a 3060Ti / 3070 for it.
Thanks for this, I was curious how the X5675 would fair. Thanks for the 'best fit' analysis! I wasn't aiming for an RTX3090, but now I have a better idea of the X58's limits.
Yes. And honestly, your monitor wouldn't even support this framerates, so I don't think you would even notice the difference, even if you are being bottlenecked by your cpu. I think only in future more demanding games, the difference will become apparent.
I can just picture the reaction of everyone who read the title of this video:
Most of the tech community: "Oh no."
Most of tech RUclipsrs: "OH NO."
Tech YES Citizens: "OH YES!!!"
*insert coolaid meme here*
@2:12
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X5675 is awesome, yesterday i played Doom 2016 alla maxed out 4K and I hit the 60 fps cap all the time.
X5675 4.4Ghz and 12gb ram, asus board, titan x (maxwell)
Me and my wife are both still rocking X58 systems. I got great deals on 2 Asus sabertooth X58 motherboards. We both have X5675@4.1ghz 24 gigs ram@1866 and 3060s. These systems still perform beautifully in 2023. X58 is truly something special and I don't think we'll ever see another platform like it again.
7 years from now: Pairing the RTGTX 5090TiSuperUltra with a x58 6 core!
Are you coming from the future? Is Kevin home alone still a christmass movie ?
Funny how just 2 weeks ago, I upgraded my XP rig to a 980x and a DFI Lanparty UT X58-T3eH8.
Xeooooon! The sole reason why I subscribed a few years ago. Love your contents sir. More power! 👌🏻
Before building my new Ryzen 5600x based rig. I used an old HP Z420 workstation I got for free out of an electronics recycling bin. It is a Xeon E-5 1660(first version), a 6c/12t cpu clocked at 3.3ghz, with 64GB of DDR3 ECC Memory(got free ram sticks and maxed it). It still runs perfectly and keep it in storage, you never know if it can come in handy. I am curious how my RTX3060Ti would work in that old thing....my guess pretty well considering what I saw in this video with a much older xeon. Thanks for doing something like this, a lot of us appreciate tinkering with older hardware.
You helped me a lot on my x58 content Brian!! I learned a lot about working with the x5675 thanks to your teachings!! 🙌
Love your Xeon videos. Keep em coming! 1650 v2 4.4GHz here paired with a 2070 Super.
I know this is an older video but Horizon Zero Dawn now runs on X58, currently playing it on an Asus Sabertooth X58 with a x5675@ 4.6ghz and a 6600xt. In the benchmark this setup averaged 78fps with a max of 137fps and min of 42 at 1080p ultimate quality preset. Highest cpu utilization during the run was 75% so this game does hit the cpu pretty hard.
The lack of AVX and AVX2 support is the kicker for x58. I have an X58 system and the only thing it cannot do is run virtual reality because of the lack of the AVX instruction set.
Developers need to stop using AVX.
Still running my X5675 4.5ghz and 1080ti :)
Working absolutly fine :)
I’m feeling good now I’ve had my Daily dose of TechYesCity
I'm lacking some TYL
@@yahyasaady1674 get some xeons' from Ali express and go and clean'em up!!
@@xbyxenos3200 have you bought from aliexpress recently, their stuff are cleaner than new. I thought they highered tech yes to clean the parts
The power draw of the 3080 series is enough to flat line the output from your solar panels on a good day !
Great Video Glad some one other than me still likes them X5675's I am Still Running a piar in my supermicro X8DTH-6F bord (my First Big Boy server Build) Still Running UnRaid Solid As A Rock ! I Hooked my aunt & uncle up with my old x5650 with 24gb of ecc ram + a 240gb ssd & its Still Light Years Faster Than thair old pos...Keep these Cool Videos Rolling mate..!! Thanks for sharing..
I was actually expecting this video to be released (kinda), nicely done Bryan!
Awesome video! Super interesting to see it’s not really that cpu dependent at 4K
Old Xeon with an RTX 3090? How's that song go, "something something Madman"?
I wish that I was a mad maaaaaaaaaaaaan ! :)
@@Djare915 hahah
Nice ad segway Linus would be proud. I approve of your grammar that’s properly used and that’s no lie!
Yes! The pairing I’ve been waiting for!
keep your plebian processor away from the 3090
HA.HA. GoodMeme mate... 🧐
I do like a bit of x58 😉
I have a couple of boards here, my msi can clock my x5675 to 4.5 no problem. My asrock board won't run the x5675 at all. Currently running a 2678 so I'll be very interested in that vid, nice work mate!
Still running a x58 with an overclocked 990x. Will be upgrading soon but damn near 10 years. What a platform
First bought an i7 950 and Sabertooth x58 MB back in 2010. It overclocked for gaming very well. I upgraded the CPU to a x5675 in 2015 and used it to run a plex server. The system has been running almost continuously the whole time. I still have plenty of performance overhead at stock speeds. The 950 is now on an MSI x58M in my htpc, and is also still running. That was a great generation of chips.
Totally agree. X58 is still my favorite chipset, alongside a X5675 it's unbeatable price/performance. Even in 2020.
Even now in 2023 this is the same case
For very high frame rates, Socket 1366 and Xeon 56xx lacks PCIe 3.0.
I manage to obtain two Xeon 5690, ECC 64 GB RAM, and ASUS Z8PE-D12 for about $135. Two Xeon 5690 CPUs and ECC 64 GB RAM were from decommissioned HP DL580 G7 rack server at less than $40.
My current gaming PCs have Ryzen 9 3900X and Intel Core i9 9900K.
Asus p6t deluxe V2 + xeon 5660 + Rx580 8g + 30G ddr3 . I did the oc watching your tutorial (A great one btw) but lowered to 3.6 Ghz because low TDP dissipation (125 W). I have to say im very happy with the price-performance relation that this cpu can give. Only got like a month with it. Asus late owner sold me his mobo with original cpu and he says that he never used O.C. with it.
The first reason of why i decided to build this pc: Astoundingly cheap!!
PS: I´ll change the cpu fan for a cheap AIO this or the next week, so i hope to leave it to 4 Ghz and see how it behaves.
So i have to say: thanks for the good quality content.
absolutely! my kids gaming rigs are HP z400s with x5687's paired with gtx 1650 supers, it performs well in all their favorite games. I had a z600 with dual X5675 paired with a gtx 1060, and only recently replaced it with a 10600k based system.
I love x58, thanks to you and your channel. I also have an x5675 setup that is working well with a snowman cooler. I do need to follow your guide and get a better overclock though. I am using an Asus TUF gaming motherboard
Woah lighting and video quality on point in your intro
I have this setup with a x5660 This Motherboard - Rampage 3 is just amazing, currently 4.6mhz 1038 out of Cinebench R15... Love your videos, I am purchasing a 3080 once I can get my hands on one!
Sound so simple. Lots of work behind this fifteen minutes video. Thanks for gr8 review.
Great video! Have an HP Z400 with an X5690 and RTX 2060 Super and I was curious how a GPU with more horse power would run. Pretty impressive what these old Xeons can do. My setup runs nice for what it is - a 2009 Win7 workstation.
2023 and still rockin' an x5690 @4.6ghz... gonna get a 2080ti to replace my 1060 6gb and I'll be good for another 6-8yrs I reckon! See if I can rock 2 decades on 1 CPU!
respect your dedication haha - was running X58 for my work PC, loved that system paired with my old 980Ti.
X58 representing. I'm running a Rampage 3 extreme too
Great information Bryan. I run a Xeon 1650V2 platform clocked at 4.2Ghz with 32GB 1866 reg ECC3 quad channel memory. Last week I took the jump to upgrade my GPU to a GTX1080Ti. The 1080Ti can be bought these days (in the US) for around $350 and it's performance seems to be the sweet spot for the Ivy Bridge-EP generation. I game at 1440p and FS2020 runs on high at 45FPS and Destiny2 books along at 118FPS. My biggest issue is keeping the GPU temps under control in the original Z420 chassis. 3d printed ducts and more chassis fan seem to be the way. Very interesting info about PCIx performance. Also something I didn't realize, SATA3 is only relevant for SSD. Regular HD performance is virtually the same between SATA2 and SATA3.
Just sold yesterday my HP Z420 .... the motherboard/Bios acting as a bottleneck for the XEON e5-1680v2 . So I moved it into ASUS Rampage IV Extreme. Now I can run the Xeon at 4.5Ghz ALL cores (not possible on Z420 ....) . I know this is a x79 not a x58 discussion . I do have 3 Xeon based systems in my house : 2 x X58 and 1 x79 . Long live budget Xeons .... By the way , did you replace PSU in the Z420 to be able to power on the GTX 1080ti?
It's crazy that this processor was released 9 years ago for more than 1000 USD and now you can buy it for 25 USD and it is still midrange. If I would be you, then I would probably buy all of these chips on Ali Express and put gaming systems together with nice profit and performance. (you probably do that besides youtube)
The motherboard prices for these things are still pretty high, so it's not really that easy
I'm running an X5670 for my main server at the moment. Runs my file server, web dev tools, etc. An amazing little beast.
man it sounds nice hearing you say 2070 super as i sit here with my x5675 and 2070 super lmao! still finding a good stable OC as I was running i7 930 since 2010. Back then I had a x295 nvidia gpu! :P Been running my current evga x58 since 2010 and going strong. AVX instructions seem to be a roadblock that might increase and I hope not!
the intel cpu emulator will actually let you run avx software, funny enough, these emulate avx and fma, faster then amd's fx chips do it native... more so if you get a nice oc out of it.. HZD can be run, i have a buddy who does it on his SR2 dual x5690 setup... his niece a few weeks back, managed to get both chips stable at 5ghz with slightly lower temps, better memory timings and results across the board... (hes got an insane 192gb of recc 1866 ram in that thing, primocache with a 3.2tb fusion i/o flash accelerator for PrimoCache L2, thing boots and games faster then his thread ripper 1950x rig), he made her a deal, if she could improve his OC, he would build her a computer... shes very lucky...hes got an old x58 ud9 board thats never been overclocked, and he already bought a couple w3680's very cheap to play with, and the recc ddr3 hes got 6 more sticks of... is known to work with the gigabyte boards no less... so... shes got 96gb ram, a w3680, and picked his old Armor Case to build in after cutting the things board tray to make proper rear socket area access a thing... and a few other mods, she modified it to fit a 420mm AIO he ordered her(they got it yesterday they are building it this weekend), he already had an extra 1050watt psu he had her swap the fan in, because he stopped using it when the fans barrings started to make screeching sounds...), shes getting a 2080ti top end edition his wife swapped for a 3070ti that work ended up paying her back for since, she uses it for work not just playing games, and the 3070ti is more optimized with the software they use, something with the optix engine or some shit...
for drives, hes setting her up with a 250gb samsung 850evo for windows and basic apps, a 2tb ssd for games and larger apps, and he decided to give her 4x4tb sshd's he still has a literal case of from back when they made them, setup in raid 5 on the intel chipet and the other 2 intel ports used for a pair of 1tb ssd's(hes sort of copying my build), she wants a burner so hes actually putting in 2, ones a very nice dvd/cd burner, the others a great bd burner thats not as good for buring dvd's or cd's (have to crank its burn speed down even on quality media...), shes also getting a flash accelerator of some kind, whatever they find a good deal on that will work..., and copy of primocache... with that much ram it would be a waste not to use at least 3/4 of it for cache... he also plans to give her an icydock hotswap for 4-6 or 8 2.5" drives and a hardware raid card that will add true sata 3 support, for he says its already in the case and booting, shes just using the onboard sata 3 ports for the games and boot drive, till they add the raid card and she can shift the drive to a much faster buss, (uses 8x rather then 1x pci-e lanes so...yeah...), i told him to just give her the 8x2.5gb and since he has ones that support SAS, to put the SLC SAS SSD's from a couple of his Sun F80 cards into the hotswap as a cache raid and just leave the games and boot drive on the marvel chipset, the ram+L2 across 8 slc sas ssd's would be more then enough... i found out later hes got a bunch of replacement sas drives for those cards, he works for a data center company and collects stuff he finds interesting..sadly he also is hard to convince to sell his friends..or anybody.. any of his extra shit... if he would... i would have one of those cards hes got that has a gig of recc cache onboard, connected to 8 of those sas ssd's in one of those icydocks in this rig... hell could put your boot drive on that AND games drive with, and still use i to cache the rest of your storage as well... but still... my testing... a cache using all that to cache the system to that raid, would be a better overall result, even if you setup the boot drive cache so it used no ram just ssd raid cache.
i look back at some of the boards for x58 and genuinely wish i could afford to setup systems around them even today... sad part is many of those boards cost more then a much more modern board and chip that would make much more sense to buy into today... more then a new x299 board for example...
I think the X58 platform is still doable today in 2022. I have a Rampage 3 Extreme paired with a 2080ti, GSYNC Monitor 1440p and an i7980X...The only downfall that I have observed which has caused me to uninstall specific games is the single core and AVX limitation. This is where newer CPU's shine. Outside of that I max out 95% of all my games on Ultra ie the COD remastered games, BF1-4, The Witcher 2 and 3, F1 2020, etc. Thanks Brian for your insight as well. I learned a few pointers from your OC lesson! 👍
I'm rocking my x5670 stock with a 1050ti and 24gb of ram at 1333mhz in my 11 year old Asus prebuilt. Unreal that this tech is still relevant compared to stuff even 3-5 years before x58 was released.
Epic 4k smackdown from an old school Xeon.
Yap 4K is fortunately the great equaliser ;)
@@darkauscus Why is that ?
@@bonnie28bonnie28 Because at 4K you're almost always going to be GPU-limited, so there's little to no benefit in getting a better CPU.
I agree, the recommended use case for this CPU seems to be 4K gaming, you can save A LOT of money on mobo+GPU and buy a 3080. Although the SATA 2 and no AVX support really make this sort of build just a stepping stone until you have the money to buy a more modern platform IMO
You do save in up front cost, but you'll be paying more for electricity. My X5650 draws over 200W at 4.6Ghz. It keeps my office nice and warm in the winter, but in the summer months I have to crank the AC up or lower the overclock to keep the room temperature under 90F, 32C.
I would not buy those Chinese boards. They have poorly designed VRMs. You'll get slightly lower overclocks and risk burning up the board.
Unbelievable. I ordert a MSI X58 Pro-E last week and want to order a X5675 from Aliexpress today.
And than i see a X5675 Vid from Mr. Yes Tech. What a coincident :)
this would be more nice if there's 2678v3 in the benchmarks too :3
I love x58 platform, keep making content about it
Just sitting here with a "new" X5670 system with a 980ti... got a Gigabyte G1 Assasin for 25 bucks and the chip for 14 on AliExpress, running it at 4,4 with a 12h stable Aida64 - Thank you Bryan for showing me how much fun this can be :D
8:35 - It is indeed a shame about the Asrock board supply because the X58 Extreme6 was a beast, indeed many tech sites started using it for CPU reviews instead of ASUS models. Mine has an X5570 atm, but I have a couple of other models to test at some point.
I love the 4K results, rather blows away the whole modern narrative that one Must Have The Latest, but that's understandable, companies need to sell product. :D It's why Intel never produced an addin card using its own SATA3 chipset, lots of older mbd owners would remained on older hw for much longer. Having newer tech obviously matters for some games (usually those poorly coded or where people go crazy for optically irrelevant frame rates), but definitely not for others. I found the same thing with an oc'd i7 870, even at 1440p the gap between it and a 6580K or Ryzen is often surprisingly small. At 1080p the difference is much larger in some cases, but with a fast GPU the frame rates are so high that for many it likely doesn't matter; there will just be a ceiling beyond which the potential of a more powerful GPU is increasingly left on the table, but for numerous scenarios it's still perfectly viable up to at least a 1080 Ti.
X58 does lack modern mbd features of course, but one can get round many of those with addin cards (because of the plethora of PCIe lanes available), including PCIe adapters for NVMe and in some cases BIOS mods to support NVMe booting (just like P67, Z68 and especially X79 with its 40 available lanes even with a mere 4820K), though the Samsung 950 Pro and certain other models have their own boot ROM and will work anyway. One won't get the performance of a modern Gen4 AM4 setup, but one thing it will provide is a lot of fun sorting it all out, getting the very most out of old tech.
X58 uses more power of course, but I'm assuming if someone's bought a 3080/3090 then they don't much care about that anyway. ;)
Great comment, if you mean by nvme support with adapter m.2 nvme on pcie x4 with use of clover program to emulate uefi bios on startup? Was reading abou this but decided to buy sata ssd, sadly on sata2 its kinda bottlenecked but still pc responsiness vs hdd first startup was insane
@@96Bialy Alas I've not used (or heard of) the Clover program. So far I just keep hunting for used 950 Pro SSds. :D True though, even with SATA2 it's much better. I installed an 850 Pro in a friend's ancient AMD laptop and it was night & day.
let's go! Running an evga sr-2 and needed to know this. Thanks as always!
Thank god I bought that processor like 3 months ago!! Thank you for this!!
So for people looking at getting this old platform the 980x/990x/x5675 & w3690 are the best ones for it. I'd recommend the w3690 its fully unlocked like the the i7. The i7's run on slower ram as well.
Bryan, this is the kind of content that I love from your channel! Love it!
Thank you, great advice, excellent job
My x5675 running in a dell T3500 with 14 gigs of ram, and a RX 470 nitro w/ a 650 watt Rosewill psu works Great for a daily user!
Finally went the X58 route as well! I picked up an X5675 + ASUS workstation board combo and overclocked it to 4.1 ghz. Pairing it with my 980Ti the results are incredible!
Woow great test x58 is still the value king!! Thank you for this test Brian!!
I love x58. I am part of the crew now too.
Built a small server using two of these cpus on a retired supermicro motherboard. For about 70 usd, the value is incredible
On a hard budget - fair enough. I tend to look at X99 and later kit unless money is super strapped..
I am running X5675 now on my Alienware Aurora ALX R1 and my brother runs X5670 on his Alienware Aurora ALX. Only thing I miss is my other Alienware Aurora R4, mostly for SATAIII.
I'm running a x5675 @ 4.6GHz with a Vega 64. 64GB RAM and a pcie nvme slot. 11 year old motherboard that has turned out to be exceptional value for money. It even POSTs at 5GHz but is unstable unless I go above 1.45v. At 4.6GHz it is stable all day long with temps in the mid 40s, up to 60s under load with a 360mm aio (on air I could reach 4.4GHz but it was toasty).
For 5 years the middle ram slots didn't work, but I fixed it with a USB microscope and some tweezers to fix bent socket pins. I also had to repaste all the heatsinks and remove all the gigabyte bling.
It's at least twice as fast as the i7 920 I ran in it for years, and good enough to run msfs2020 high settings at 1440p.
Will be gutted when the board finally dies.
I'm rocking a Snowman CPU cooler on my Ryzen 5 3600x and it does a great job! Thanks for the heads up on this cheap cooler.
Still have a Rampage 3 Formula motherboard and I think I will now order a x5675 and do the build. Thanks for the video.
Great video and very informative. Got into Xeon based systems after watching your videos. My newest machine is sporting dual E5-2650 v2s with an insane 128 GBS of RAM and an RX 570 8GB. Got an off lease Dell Precision T5610 from a local animation studio that is upgrading their workstations. Will be gaming and doing content creation on it.
@ 6;36 I absolutely, I agree. Both when new & 10+ yrs later. More so, I'd consider their plain but quality WS (Workstation) Series. The ROG were amazing new, but often had too many runs if on the used market. Not always, but often of sold off , the've been used & abused. Most WS lived a nice daily driver life & have most the OC settings you may want.
From hwo I read that, pure gaming at 4k and you'll be fine, simple as that simply because everything goes GPU route so for me, 3000 series with an overclocked one... I won't be upgrading my 1860v2 for years...
Well thanks for all your info! I'm getting an X5975 chip. I have been playing around with my old GA-X58A-UD3R and i7 920 from 2009 and I actually want more than 4.2 stable so I'm gonna try the Xeon. I could really use some 1866 instead of my 1600 but triple channel sets aren't super common.
Had a Xeon X5690 clocked @4.3ghz paired with a RTX 2080. Ran very well. If not for the lack of AVX I might still be rocking it today.
There are only about 2 games that require AVX to play them.
And also i already found, multiple patches/hacks, that make it possible top play those particular games on the x58 chipsets.
*great tip about the meltdown safeties. I'll have to check that out and see if it makes a noticeable difference.*
Observation: the bigger cards still benefited vs the cheaper. You just called out when the price per system performance starts to have diminishing returns.
Even with a modern system, a 2080 vs a 3080 is a substantial diminished return vs price.
If you were taking an old x58 system and upgrading, every little bit helps, and a 3000 series card was averaging higher and still getting a slightly higher min. If that game you are playing is pushing going too low fps, the 3000 series will help keep 5-10 more fps vs the 2000 series.
That could be the difference between good enough for a couple more years and forced to upgrade.
As for myself, I am luck and bought an Asus rampage 3 extreme way back when, so I have usb 3, and upgraded to a xeon 6core running oc to 4.3gz. Most games are GPU limited (gtx 970) and still in 2022 most run a solid medium settings at 1080, unless poorly optimized.
I know a lot of people too poor to afford what I have, and I also know quite a few with newer systems that struggle to keep up once I'm booted up. I'm certainly not limited on playing games, but It is a limitation on full immersion experience.
Finally prices have come down, so a 3060 will go in this week.
I would have gone for that modern AM5 4.6-4.7ghz 8 core system build (finally enough of an upgrade to be worth it), but I'm probably moving, so saving money toward that instead.
I ordered a 3060 Elite to pair with my x5670 - it’s going to be a heck of an experiment.
the problem with the x58 chinese boards is that it doesn´t let you to blck oc, only multipler unlock on "W" cpu, via windows, and even that has a limit.
Would a rtx 3090 Ti work on an x58 based motherboard
My X5875 stable @ 4.3 and GTX1070 is still perfect for 1080p. And now I know if I ever want to upgrade to 2k or 4k, all I need is just another GPU. Thanks!
Superb Video Dude Using Xeon W3680 With RX 580
Most Gigabyte motherboards have too old microcodes in order to overclock X5675 and other Xeon processors properly. Best overclocking results can be achieved with a modded BIOS that has the newest microcodes inserted.
Built my bro a X79 platform pc this month and having never used X79 (2011 socket) i was shocked at how good it performed a 3930k paired with a 1660 Super. Amazing what the old stuff can still do if given the headroom to jump :)