I used the test on a vas’s mask I made from a 2 liter plastic bottle, and a rudimentary filter made with ground up charcoal and heavy duty paper towels. It worked against arisol deodorant for exactly 1 minute before I began to very faintly smell it. Basically, don’t use the masks they tell you how to make in RUclips tutorials.
I was at a surplus store a few days ago and I saw a couple of the Israeli civ gas mask and they were packaged with the 40mm ghost filters. And what made it worse was one of the filters was leaking charcoal.
I bought a gp5 gas mask and used a polish fp 5 filter with it and did a test in my bathroom with some strong deodorant and the the expiry date on the filter is 2011 and the filter still works!
Been enjoying your videos for the past few months. Always very well thought out. Have you thought about creating a gas mask wiki type website with all different models and accessories etc. and a filter identification chart and known information on their safety seeing as though you get so many questions regarding this. Obviously there would be problems with people putting in anecdotal information so the filter safety chart would probably have to be yourself or approved people adding to it whereas the gas mask part anyone could add information too. Merry christmas dude, thanks for all the content :)
A while back I picked up two surplus gas masks just in case I ever need something like that. I just so happened to get the two worst types, apparently. I have one with cheek filters, and one with a 60mm filter. At least they both came with new, sealed filter packages. Looks like I need to get a 40mm NATO mask.
If you actually plan on using it yes, the old Rubberised East German suits are very good and often still in good condition, rubber suits don't expire like charcoal lined suits do.
The MC1 will 100% take a modern NATO 40mm filter. I have it in my hand as I'm writing this and have threaded the NATO NBC filter onto the Polish MC1 mask. It's for an Israeli mask and labeled NATO STANDARD SIZE GB2890-2021 LDG3 P3. I've tried to breathe through it and it is completely sealed. Works properly. So for reference, the Polish MC1 will take NATO & GOST filters.
On the filters expiring we use the multi acid gas filters and we had several that had expired but we were using them up. They did fine until about a year and a half after they expired, after that they were garbage. Once we have them open they can be on the masks for up to six months unused before they start losing effectiveness.
The Mylar wrapping got flakey right when they expired so as we moved them around the seals broke. In our shop they were absorbing chemicals, cigarette smoke, etc once that seal was broken so once we put them in a hostile environment they went bad within a couple hours. We use 25% hydrogen peroxide to kill mold and it is frequently aerosolized so we are hard on filters.
It's a standard surplus British Woolly Pully also known as Commando jumpers, Army ones are green, RAF is blue and Royal Navy are a darker blue as far as I'm aware. A lot of other armed forces have very similar ones, some police forces have black ones, and some fashion companies make civilian equivalents that look the same but cost about 10 times as much.
I'd recommend the 3m 7800s , it can accept both 3m and nato filters. It isn't resistant to blister agents though, so it's really only good for nuclear , biological , or tear gas.
How long would one of those filters last trying to avoid getting covid19? I'm in a job where I have to interact with the public and other workers. I envy the people at home going stir crazy!
A standard 40mm NATO filter should last, roughly, 12-24 hours of use after breaking the seal depending on air quality. But for Covid a simple mask, face shield, and proper hygiene does wonders.
Did they replace the M65? I know that they are expensive since it's rather new but when I saw "Die Rekruten" (the recruits, a mini series on youtube showing the basic military training of the German army) they used M65s. Would you say it's good?
GP5 with a 40mm nato filter is an affordable solution... C2A1 filters can be had for 25$ or less which is a solid filter ...however it offers minimal protection from ammonia
Question, my GP5 came from an army surplus store and it came packaged in a box. I can't tell its authentic and don't know if the filter contains abestos. Going to be getting another mask hopefully just concerned.
My smell test is using really strong weed or sometimes I use liquid ass spray. Btw I live in a legal state. So that’s why I use weed sometimes. I found out that KYNG Israeli gas mask don’t work as they are knock offs made from latex rather than rubber
@@unsoundfoxly Ah... you have "MIRA P3 virus filters". Sorry to break it to you, but MIRA is a reseller that at least doubles the price of every product they rebrand. I'd just buy P3 filters from scott if possible.
How is the vision on the Israeli civilian mask? How does it compare to a full shield? Can you see well enough? Are the smaller circles more durable than shields?
I just found a brand new Czech M10 gasmask for sale and it comes with filters. The price is roughly 27 pounds. Is it worth the price? And is it safe to breathe through?
I'd recommend you watch my videos on it, it's not a good mask if you want it for protective reasons it uses cheek filters, the regular M10 is a bit crap but the M10m with all the accessories and the lovely vinyl/leather bag is worth it for around £30.
In many of your vids, you talk about going to the hardware store and buying 40mm filters. Is this a U.K./ British thing? Do all hardware stores over there stock gas mask filters? Here in the U.S. we have Home Depot and Lowe's. Neither carry gas mask filters , just 3m filters for sanding and spray painting which are not 40mm.
Hey Liam , i got a filter with my gas mask (fm 12 ) and on my filter says ( A1 B2 E1 K1 D/NBC , black avon filter, and expire date is 2012/8 , can i trust this filter or not ? ) can you tell me is this filter usable or not, and what this all mean ( a1 b2 . . . ) thank you !!
If you look up my videos on ABEK filters, those will explain the letters. If it's sealed and expired in 2012 there's a good chance it will still work when opened but no guarantees as the date has run out.
a cool but impractical way to test masks and filters use the prank spray that smells like shit, if the dude's vomiting in his mask you know its not working
I noticed a stamped letter K on the top inner part of your Israeli gas mask. Is that a separate sizing for the inner mask that covers your nose & mouth? I have one too and mine has a stamped 4, though it doesn’t reach my nose. Your mask looks kinda big too, even though mine has a number 1 on the outside like yours.
I bought a serbian m1, unissued with a 60mm filter, I selected it for the side mounted filter but im wondering where I can find adapters. would you know anywhere?
For whatever reasons could I actually breathe in the filter and exhale out the nose without the mask? Just use the filter directly as long as the mouth don’t break the seal?
sometimes countries or armies don't have enough money to change gas masks for example this one Dominican militia didn't have enough money to change gas masks until 2005 they were using gas masks from ww1.
Truth about military surplus is that there are lots of better stuffs out there on civilian world. Military surplus simply means that it met the specs that military have asked the others, while maintaining cheapest price than other competitors, not to forget about the fact that by the time these surplus comes out for sale to civilian world, it’ll be outdated. There can be more expensive but way better stuffs out there on civilian world than the military surplus.
It's bad advice saying the filter is the most important! The mask is the most important hands down! You could have the best filter but if you're wearing a Chinese mask, which most will not properly seal or their seal will decay over time, the filter will do you no good. We're as the other way around you could at least have a semi functional respirator with a crappy filter and a good mask. Masks are always the most important! Plenty of cheap filters on Amazon that are functional with some being top of the line. However there are plenty of masks on Amazon that do not provide a proper seal!!!
I am getting an 4a1 tomorrow if it arrives and i want to wear it for one day at school. Can i open my filter for one day in a non contaminated environment and seal it back up and store it?
Good luck with that, you'd be paying hundreds of dollars if a company will even sell you a new mask, lots of sites selling military respirators for premium prices are still surplus masks.
I used the test on a vas’s mask I made from a 2 liter plastic bottle, and a rudimentary filter made with ground up charcoal and heavy duty paper towels. It worked against arisol deodorant for exactly 1 minute before I began to very faintly smell it. Basically, don’t use the masks they tell you how to make in RUclips tutorials.
thanks for the advice!
5MC: :(
Great video! I have a small S10 gas mask and surprisingly found a way to fit 3 filters and tools for fixing my skateboard with my gas mask in there
In the satchel?
Weaponsandstuff93 Yep! Autocorrect on my phone sometimes removes words if I correct too much
Ah that makes more sense.
iiStealthWolf then turn off autocorrect im on samsung s5 i've done it
Merry Christmas :D have a nice holiday. Also great videos keep it up
Cheers, you as well.
I was at a surplus store a few days ago and I saw a couple of the Israeli civ gas mask and they were packaged with the 40mm ghost filters. And what made it worse was one of the filters was leaking charcoal.
I take it you mean GOST.
I bought a gp5 gas mask and used a polish fp 5 filter with it and did a test in my bathroom with some strong deodorant and the the expiry date on the filter is 2011 and the filter still works!
Cool
Get an adapter, the filter can damage the threads
love the informational content! totally a channel that deserves more love and attention!
Cheers
Been enjoying your videos for the past few months.
Always very well thought out.
Have you thought about creating a gas mask wiki type website with all different models and accessories etc.
and a filter identification chart and known information on their safety seeing as though you get so many questions regarding this.
Obviously there would be problems with people putting in anecdotal information so the filter safety chart would probably have to be yourself or approved people adding to it whereas the gas mask part anyone could add information too.
Merry christmas dude, thanks for all the content :)
The Gas mask wiki already exists.
gasmaskandrespirator.wikia.com/wiki/Wiki
Merry Christmas. Thanks for all your videos - they're great.
There's a Christmas special at 5PM UK time.
nice, cheers
A while back I picked up two surplus gas masks just in case I ever need something like that. I just so happened to get the two worst types, apparently. I have one with cheek filters, and one with a 60mm filter. At least they both came with new, sealed filter packages. Looks like I need to get a 40mm NATO mask.
Just get a 60 to 40 mm adapter
@@sabahattinkayrul1026 too late. I got an M40
@@UncleDon226 Good choice, the m40 is excellent
Thank you for what you do, keeping us informed is really important especially now because of the current situation
You learn something new every day. Thanks People are gonna learn the hard way when the gas hits the fan. Lol
Hello. Should I invest in a good NBC suit if I bought a gas mask? I want to use it for emergency survival purposes.
If you actually plan on using it yes, the old Rubberised East German suits are very good and often still in good condition, rubber suits don't expire like charcoal lined suits do.
The polish op1 is an excellent suit too
I bought a model no.4 from an army surplus
Thank you for the great content that you have provided.
Gas masks 101. Great video!
Thank you so much Sir 🙏🏽💯
The MC1 will 100% take a modern NATO 40mm filter. I have it in my hand as I'm writing this and have threaded the NATO NBC filter onto the Polish MC1 mask. It's for an Israeli mask and labeled NATO STANDARD SIZE GB2890-2021 LDG3 P3. I've tried to breathe through it and it is completely sealed. Works properly. So for reference, the Polish MC1 will take NATO & GOST filters.
Your videos never fail to entertain me
Another great video, thanks !!
Glad you like it.
On the filters expiring we use the multi acid gas filters and we had several that had expired but we were using them up. They did fine until about a year and a half after they expired, after that they were garbage.
Once we have them open they can be on the masks for up to six months unused before they start losing effectiveness.
Interesting thanks, I wonder what suddenly changed to make them go useless.
The Mylar wrapping got flakey right when they expired so as we moved them around the seals broke. In our shop they were absorbing chemicals, cigarette smoke, etc once that seal was broken so once we put them in a hostile environment they went bad within a couple hours. We use 25% hydrogen peroxide to kill mold and it is frequently aerosolized so we are hard on filters.
i ordered 2 gp5's on amazon for £26,95. it says there's no asbestos in the filters. did they take it out. and if there is asbestos. can i sue them
I'm not a lawyer but if you get a Soviet green filter, it has asbestos in, don't believe surplus sellers that say otherwise.
I know you pre record your vids and schedule them so my question is how often a day/week do you record a vid
I normally do 1 or 2 videos a day.
Two uploads nice
There are apparently modern gost filters made in china but they are still difficult to get.
Ur so cool I wish I had as many gas masks as u do
Thanks I think I have about 66 individual masks now.
I used to have an American m40 and a gost filter fit and sealed.
Where did you get the militarized shirt your wearing, looks pretty cool.
It's a standard surplus British Woolly Pully also known as Commando jumpers, Army ones are green, RAF is blue and Royal Navy are a darker blue as far as I'm aware. A lot of other armed forces have very similar ones, some police forces have black ones, and some fashion companies make civilian equivalents that look the same but cost about 10 times as much.
I'd recommend the 3m 7800s , it can accept both 3m and nato filters. It isn't resistant to blister agents though, so it's really only good for nuclear , biological , or tear gas.
How long would one of those filters last trying to avoid getting covid19? I'm in a job where I have to interact with the public and other workers. I envy the people at home going stir crazy!
You'll know when it gets harder to breathe with it.
A standard 40mm NATO filter should last, roughly, 12-24 hours of use after breaking the seal depending on air quality. But for Covid a simple mask, face shield, and proper hygiene does wonders.
hey what do you think about the FMJ05 chinese gas mask that you recently reviewedcan it still be used for protection?
Well, it does offer protection but it's quite uncomfortable.
very interesting bro 👍
Are old polish 40mm drager filters okay for use? I found a good cheap one sealed that expired in the 2000s to 2010s, is it worth it?
Should be good, just check if it's GOST or NATO
Merry Christmas, mate! It's not a surplus mask but du you know the M2000? I have seen it on ebay but don't know much about it.
It's the current German military mask, supposedly quite good but they tend to be expensive.
Did they replace the M65? I know that they are expensive since it's rather new but when I saw "Die Rekruten" (the recruits, a mini series on youtube showing the basic military training of the German army) they used M65s. Would you say it's good?
Zipotricks Ok thanks
Cool video very informative
Thanks.
GP5 with a 40mm nato filter is an affordable solution... C2A1 filters can be had for 25$ or less which is a solid filter ...however it offers minimal protection from ammonia
Question, my GP5 came from an army surplus store and it came packaged in a box. I can't tell its authentic and don't know if the filter contains abestos. Going to be getting another mask hopefully just concerned.
Can you give me a link to someone who sells safe filters, please?
:)
i had no idea that i was so interested in gas masks..
My smell test is using really strong weed or sometimes I use liquid ass spray. Btw I live in a legal state. So that’s why I use weed sometimes. I found out that KYNG Israeli gas mask don’t work as they are knock offs made from latex rather than rubber
Yeah... fetish masks wont protect you much.
@@beanieteamie7435 yes but I also own a true Israeli gas mask aswell and that DOES pass all the tests. Got it set up with MIRA P3 virus filters.
@@unsoundfoxly Ah... you have "MIRA P3 virus filters".
Sorry to break it to you, but MIRA is a reseller that at least doubles the price of every product they rebrand.
I'd just buy P3 filters from scott if possible.
How is the vision on the Israeli civilian mask? How does it compare to a full shield? Can you see well enough? Are the smaller circles more durable than shields?
Could i just get a 60mm to 40mm adapter and buy 40mm filters?
peculiar_turnip yeah
Better off buying a new 40mm gas mask.
I just found a brand new Czech M10 gasmask for sale and it comes with filters. The price is roughly 27 pounds. Is it worth the price? And is it safe to breathe through?
I'd recommend you watch my videos on it, it's not a good mask if you want it for protective reasons it uses cheek filters, the regular M10 is a bit crap but the M10m with all the accessories and the lovely vinyl/leather bag is worth it for around £30.
As for filter safety nobody really knows, but I'd trust them a bit more than the GOST 40mm filters.
Nice recap/Mike
Glad you liked it.
What army surplus stores in England can I buy a 4A1 from?
Great video
Thanks
In many of your vids, you talk about going to the hardware store and buying 40mm filters. Is this a U.K./ British thing? Do all hardware stores over there stock gas mask filters? Here in the U.S. we have Home Depot and
Lowe's. Neither carry gas mask filters , just 3m filters for sanding and spray painting which are not 40mm.
Some do, some don't. Check online hardware suppliers, 40mm ABEK are a fairly common filter type for industrial respirator systems.
Exelente video amigo soy de costa rica saludos
Lots of grate info thanks.
Glad you liked it.
I don't think I have a filter store in Kalispell montana so I have to buy them from ebay.
Hey Liam , i got a filter with my gas mask (fm 12 ) and on my filter says ( A1 B2 E1 K1 D/NBC , black avon filter, and expire date is 2012/8 , can i trust this filter or not ? ) can you tell me is this filter usable or not, and what this all mean ( a1 b2 . . . ) thank you !!
If you look up my videos on ABEK filters, those will explain the letters.
If it's sealed and expired in 2012 there's a good chance it will still work when opened but no guarantees as the date has run out.
My filter works i have tried it . . but ithis filter expired 5 years ago , i am not shure if i can use it ?
a cool but impractical way to test masks and filters use the prank spray that smells like shit, if the dude's vomiting in his mask you know its not working
Yeah that's one way of doing it, I'd personally prefer to use banana oil though.
I have 40mm thread adapters for my Czech M10M…
With my gp-5 I actually get a very good seal with a cff3 filter. Now would I use it in a real life situation idk.
I agree with you - 40mm screws have the same step because they are universal
But what if I only have gost masks that fit me? Do I have to buy another one
11:15 what is the name of that particular filter, I own one like it but have a hard time finding any information on it
The GOST one?
It's a Czechoslovakian GOST civil defence filter.
Merry Christmas (in four hours time) , is there any good , cheap safe mask you’d consider using in a shit hits the fan scenario?
A GP-5 would work fine with a modern GOST filter.
S10, shalon 4a1, both about £30-£40, but cheaper would be like Liam said a gp-5 with modern filter, any m9 copy with a decent filter should work
Do normalised filters actually exist or is it a full myth?
You can also sit inside a Porta Potty. That has been sun all day. To see if the mask woks.
Would the German surplus dragger mask be a good option ?
Well, any goods from the Germans are good.
Weaponsandstuff92 : Your a great Guy but , How did you got gas masks
eBay
Weaponsandstuff93 logic....
😐
I noticed a stamped letter K on the top inner part of your Israeli gas mask. Is that a separate sizing for the inner mask that covers your nose & mouth?
I have one too and mine has a stamped 4, though it doesn’t reach my nose.
Your mask looks kinda big too, even though mine has a number 1 on the outside like yours.
What's a non-shady website to buy filters off of? (I live in the US)
eBay and AliExpress
I bought a serbian m1, unissued with a 60mm filter, I selected it for the side mounted filter but im wondering where I can find adapters. would you know anywhere?
Loads on eBay
Thanks for replying it means a lot
+Drew Medus Glad you enjoy the videos.
What gas mask is being used like not the filter but the mask that is being displayed in the beginning
I have one of these
Where should I shop for quality masks and filters?
ebay.
Why are filters so expensive? Where could you find cheaper filters
Because they are needed for military/industrial use, supply and demand.
Hey in a zombie apocalypse there is hazmat guys but they turn into zombies anyway but why do they wear the
Because the games are designed by people who don't care about facts.
For whatever reasons could I actually breathe in the filter and exhale out the nose without the mask? Just use the filter directly as long as the mouth don’t break the seal?
I did a video on that, all fine and dandy as long as the gas doesn't effect your eyes or skin.
Whats the mask you had in the beginning of the video? I think I might have the same one.
Shalon 4a1
@@Weaponsandstuff93 Thanks, I checked and I do have it.
Is 4A1 with filter good to buy now for $99 due to COVID-19?
You should try to find it cheaper I bought an Israeli for about 79$
m15 with filter= $80
Where do you buy your gas masks?
eBay
got a new filter it seems to be leaking fiber glass is it harmful enough to be inhaled?
Yeah it will tear up your lungs, it's almost as bad as asbestos.
One of the best comments on here...
What if I have a fp5 and it’s sealed tight inside but the foil wrap is with small holes？ is it still called a sealed filter?
if i have a filter thats open from the treaded side? how do i know if the filter is still good? if its not i need to buy a newone
Depends if you are using it for gas or particles. Particles it will last basically forever, for gas make sure the expiry date is not yet over.
sometimes countries or armies don't have enough money to change gas masks for example this one Dominican militia didn't have enough money to change gas masks until 2005 they were using gas masks from ww1.
So basically they had no NBC protection.
yeah pretty much basically hope for the best and try not to die.
Excellent clip! Very much usefull info.
Truth about military surplus is that there are lots of better stuffs out there on civilian world. Military surplus simply means that it met the specs that military have asked the others, while maintaining cheapest price than other competitors, not to forget about the fact that by the time these surplus comes out for sale to civilian world, it’ll be outdated. There can be more expensive but way better stuffs out there on civilian world than the military surplus.
The most boomer take of all time
You're statement does not apply for the whole world, especially from where I'm from.
What was that weird silver thing you put on the gp5 filter?
That's a Czech filter not a GP-5 filter. Still not safe.
Do you mean the gp5m it’s a voice diaphragm
Guns&GasMasks2006 no not that. I actually have a gp5m but on both filters in fact i saw this silver ring on top of the filter
Is there a way to get rid of it lessen the strong smell of the Soviet Russian gp5 gas mask?
Just hang it up it should be better after some time
wash with scented liquid soap
What year roughly will a s10 filter made 2009 expire
Guns&GasMasks2006 probably 2019
Depends on seal, 10 to 20 years if stored and sealed well.
Either 2019-2024 most Avon filters are given a 15 year shelf life I think, some are 20 years from production.
Doesnt matter. All s10 filters are expired anyway
Quantum Ridley wrong
outside of ebay where can you get FP 5 filters in the uk I've never seen them anywhere
etsy
Where do you buy your gas mask? and have a nice holiday.
eBay and same to you.
I have the same 1
He’s definitely killed somebody
I see you’re a fellow skyrim fan
Not really, I just put the Poster up when I got the game, the Morrowind map hints at the Elder Scrolls game I really like.
Do u have more gas masks or more usable filters
+Lego WW2 Studios More gas masks because I collect them.
I could sell that for so many caps
It's bad advice saying the filter is the most important! The mask is the most important hands down! You could have the best filter but if you're wearing a Chinese mask, which most will not properly seal or their seal will decay over time, the filter will do you no good. We're as the other way around you could at least have a semi functional respirator with a crappy filter and a good mask. Masks are always the most important! Plenty of cheap filters on Amazon that are functional with some being top of the line. However there are plenty of masks on Amazon that do not provide a proper seal!!!
I got the first filter from 1986 is it safe?
If it's a Nato 40mm filter like the one in the video, yes.
Do Czech M10 filters have asbestos
most likely not
Quantum Ridley thanks
Person No.9 Your leader I wouldn't risk it
I just have to say that as a Israeli i have six of those
I am getting an 4a1 tomorrow if it arrives and i want to wear it for one day at school. Can i open my filter for one day in a non contaminated environment and seal it back up and store it?
I’d rather buy a new gas mask
Good luck with that, you'd be paying hundreds of dollars if a company will even sell you a new mask, lots of sites selling military respirators for premium prices are still surplus masks.
@@Weaponsandstuff93 yeah MIRA sells old om-90s to chumps for like 300$, lots of scummy gas mask vendors out there
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Why are you wearing an air cadet jumper?
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Sorry, at least 1 person bet you to it.
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Use Chinese tubes because they have normalized threads and allow you to use any 40mm masks or filters
Sadly not every Chinese hose is normalised
@@Weaponsandstuff93 that is true but there are communities online that link normalized tubes
@@Weaponsandstuff93 btw I love your channel what you're doing here is helping thousands of people