These masks are currently in stock on March 28th 2020 HERE: Supplies wont last www.canadianpreparedness.com/products/hood-sge-400-3-full-face-gasmask-respirator-with-nato-40-mm-ports-2-3/ alternatively you can look into mira safety gear for masks, filters and hazmat suits bit.ly/2v13wnh
Canadian Prepper I have knowledge to share. MOLEKULE.com they don’t use HEPA filters like commonly used in the US. Instead they use PICO filters which are electrically powered filters that can remove VOCs and Airborne viruses and other things like mold spores and allergens and more. 1 PICO filter lasts for MONTHS. If you could work with MOLEKULE and with DevTac designs to make your awesome Gas Mask a full helmet with a rechargeable reusable battery bank, using the PICO filter, you guys could reach even higher levels of protection. One PICO filter lasts for months. I love your product as it is now. It’s simple and straight forward. Just wanted to share some knowledge. Wish I could invest in you guys to make this happen but I can’t afford that rn.
What's even more strange, I'm struggling to find them this side of the pond. U.S. seems to get all the good stuff; even when it's designed and manufactured abroad (albeit assembled in the U.S.).
Air quality in a post collapse will be dubious at best. Without regular maintenance and security, ...there are far too many chemical plants, storage facilities, gas wells, industrial facilities, military installations, research facilities, ...etc., ...that will fall into disrepair, succumb to vandalism, and suffer a variety of other containment failures. Not to mention a never ending series of both structure and wild fires. We have determined this much to be an absolute certainty. And we very seldomly say "...an absolute certainty." NBC protection is an absolute must have.
Definitely get the masks that are coms, and drinking compatible. Me, my wife and son are a team. My dad was a army ranger and communication is extremely important in any situation. And as far as water and the ability to drink it with out taking the mask off is worth everything because of exposure. Also the ability to supply grade D breathing air to your mask system wile you change your filter is a good advantage in exposure areas
That was my thoughts exactly what is the point when if you are ever attacked mustard gas's will become one of the most common weapons beach can be used for purifying water and anomia for cleaning having both in a shtf is almost guaranteed it's a very simple recipe and requires no exact science Chuck they into someone's shelter that only has theses and they are done
I got the 400/3 for a crazy good sale on Amazon about 4 years ago... I liked that it was a tactical mask with the big visor for shooting. I all for prepping but I have to say if you got yourself into a situation that your under attack from mustard gas a gas mask is the least of your worries.
Great video! I liked all of the different visuals. I also enjoyed all of the background information about gas masks in general This mask is definitely top notch. BTW, thanks for the shout-out! I first learned about this mask from PrepperAgenda. Everyone who wants to be serious about their PPE preparedness should really consider purchasing this mask from Canadian Prepper's store! You totally get your money's worth.
keep in mind a 30$ isreali civilian gas mask with proper cbrn filters can accomplish what this mask can do, what you're really paying for is comfort, the ability to aim down a rifle comfortably and higher visibility, so you dont *need* this gas mask and there are masks that are about 80% as good and can accomplish to a reasonable degree what this mask can for way less than this one, the main perk i see to this one is it'd be more comfortable (i assume) to wear for *VERY* extended periods of time
calvin huddleston CP said old gas masks don’t keep you alive and just do long enough to complete a mission. He said “don’t be a fool, go new school” do you think he’s correct on this? Obviously expired filters aren’t smart but like with the Israeli gas mask you’ve mentioned I’ve purchased a Chinese $20 mask. Do you think they work as good as the 120$ masks?
@@oliverfasola19 well theres good masks and bad masks across the board regardless of age, honestly i wouldnt buy a chinese gas mask weaponsandstuff93 is more of an expert on gas masks then CP is so i recommend checking him out, there are awesome masks like the avon fm12 that are old but still considered to be one of the best gas masks on the market and half the price of this thing, if you are going to buy a gas mask at dirt cheap i recommend the isreali civilian masks, they'll work but they do fog and you cant shoulder a rifle with it, id say the most important part of a gas masks ability to do its job beyond a good seal is its filter which arent that expensive
calvin huddleston thank you for your advice and weaponsandstuff93 is great for gas mask content. I’ve definitely been interested in the Israeli gas mask but they went off the market for a while ( a few months ago anyways ). Weapons and stuff reviewed the TF-1 Chinese mask, that’s what I bought but I’m still worried it’s not going to work even with good filters. It pressurizes good but still it’s hard to trust China
@@oliverfasola19 i'd say trust weaponsandstuff, however he did adress and this is something you should keep in mind, gas masks are made with the facial structures of the host nation in mind, so while a british avon fm12 might work great for weaponsandstuff a chinese mask may not even if its a perfectly good mask, thats why i chose the isreali civilian was because it was designed to fit a decent variety of facial structures by extending and oversizing the side gaskets
I now have the SGE 400/3 and this is a fine piece of gear. The field of view is only a little less than my normal peripheral vision and the seal is exceptional. There’s zero fogging and the seal held fast despite not having shaved. It’s light and comfortable, and has great flexibility with the capacity for filters left, right, centre or anybody all of them. It’s build really tough. I couldn’t be happier with it.
Former 8 year CBRN US Army soldier here. Love the vid! One additional bit of info would be the difference between a "Gas Mask" and a "Pro Mask" aka Protective Mask. Gas masks are only for gas, whereas protective masks are for other elements as well... The ones you are selling do* seem to be more protective than just gas. Great video!
There a number of polymer mixtures used for the face seal. As I recall it, silicone was less subject to degradation than other soft seals aka elastomers. Silicone certainly forms more tightly to the face than just plain old rubber and is likely better than what is used in cheaper respirators. Further some people react to latex rubber but not nitrile or silicone.
Thinking about it, but I can't find the diameter of the pores in the particle filters anywhere. I want to know if virusses could slip in between the micro pores or not.
@@frederikclaeyssens9201 the virus itself can fit through the particulate filter, but since it piggy backs off saliva particles/mucus from coughing, sneezing that would get caught, I doubt any viral particulates would get through. Tbh this is pretty overkill for a viral outbreak. You dont need a full NBC filter for filtering viral particles. A 40mm p100 filter is more than enough
I just recommend a lv 3 half face mask, anything past that is overkill but really it's mostly just common sense, washing your hands, not rubbing your eyes (that's how most people wearing protection get infected is by rubbing their eyes or touching their suits) and keeping hand sanitizer on you
I do own the SGE400BB, the butyl rubber version, for a few years now (7-8 years). Never used it in other environment than CS/CN gas. It worked flawlessly. I've been training with it while doing running and shooting drills. It sits tight on my face. Side note though, you better use a red dot/holographic sight on your rifle when using this mask as it's kinda hard to have a good sight picture and nice cheek weld on your rifle buttstock while wearing this polycarbonate mask. I've been using the CF C4 gas mask before for training and combat drills and it was easier to have a better cheek weld on my C8 for shooting but peripheral vision was way better on the Mestel than on the CF C4 mask's which only have two lenses... Nice review of the SGE400. 👍
To be fair the C4 is a much better mask as it might not be NIOSH approved but it’s a legit military mask, the SGE masks all failed NIOSH standards, this is why preppers talk them up and you never see government agencies using them
the only thing I can suggest or add to this if it isn't already here is to use Vaseline to create a good seal around your face especially if you have a beard. Don't be cheap with it either
Gregory K. Silicone more likely. Natural rubbers yes, synthetic rubbers no. More people are likely familiar with diving masks, where there’s usually a skirt of synthetic rubber or silicone elastomer to support the frame and lenses and create a watertight seal. For Silicone, most people wouldn't know what silicone liquid or grease was, let alone where to find the stuff _(diving supplies)._
If it's very short facial hair, it still works. Above 5mm hair length though I wouldn't recommend. But 3-5 day facial hair it's fine, I've tested it with a Avon FM-12. But remember that every masks are different, some may seal very good, the sizing matters too, how you tighten the straps, the state of the seals and so on. It's recommended to go clean shaven or at most a mustache, but personally I'm not a fan of it since it creates micro cuts/irritations in the skin which let's bacteria and shit go in and create infected pimples as a result. Trimmed as short as possible is what I prefer, better for skin hygiene. Especially since our skins already produce sebum oil which is a natural protector against various nasty things. Shaving clean everyday is really bad.
I might be able to buy batteries, bottled water, gas, ammo, food, and other disaster supplies for a day or two after a SHTF event, but a gas mask is one of those preps that will become 100% unavailable within 2 seconds of an event which requires respiratory protection. Anyone that can fit these in their prepping budget should get one sooner rather than later.
@@Nxt25 LOL ancient? Not really, the one I got (polish MP5, best one IMO $25.99) were used up until a few years ago. Also they actually were tested for asbestos and none was found. Either way they take NATO filters, you act like you cant jus buy a new filter.
I used something like this in the army and also at work later in oil and gas industrie. Same filters, masks were an older model. works good. Needs an introduction for how to safely change filters. For real safety you need the full body condom, of course. With built in toilet. You just get problems with mold after one or two days.
@@sextuspompeius1266 You mean the filter mask? I think it was from Dräger. I know the filter were. german army and later Wintershall for refinery and oil production. Same producer.
Nate, here are my questions: 1. Are you selling potassium iodide? 2. Does the SGE 150 take the 40 mm filters? 3. The SGE 400/3 comes in 2 sizes on your website, medium and large. Is there guidance as to the sizes? Many thanks! Great video as always.
Not currently selling PI but soon, the SGE takes the same filters yes, there is a sizing info in this PDF on page 22. www.mestelsafety.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Protection-Equipment.pdf The only actual difference in sizing is the amount of silicone/ rubber material, the visor is the same size. The large has more, its the one I use and I think I have an average male sized head
Huge respect for you acknowledging the fact that gas masks are designed to complete missions or to escape and not to survive, as per their limited amount reactive materials in said filters only last so long. These masks look to be top quality too. Do they have light weight particle filters too, because they would be handy for fire smoke? Also I didn't see any of the Potassium Iodide tablets on your website...?
dont know who's reading this, but for future reference, if you are going test a gas mask, do not use a vapor, (like a road flare) in a confined space, i saw a guy do this in a tent, and while it is hazardous, which this video addressed, it poorly represents the qualities of a respirator, using an aerosol spray in a confined space is better, because you can smell and feel the spray going into the mask, so to test it, use your hand to test the hermetic seal, then use a fragrant object, like vanilla extract, then test the overall mask by going into a confined space, and using some sort of air freshener or aerosol spray, I've even seen this done with a pack of ciggarettes
Great, when are we going to see something on CBRN for K9's (Dogs) as I have been looking at options here to protect man's best friend? Big market for anyone who wants to tap into the sales from dog owners?
I do love the filter canister design as it less subject to rain what is used on most industrial respirators as filter cartridges. If the canisters cover the range of industrial chemicals, suspect I am in. A HEPA filter is pretty important as practical measure.
THE RECENT CALIFORNIA WILDFIRES have illustrated a very serious threat : long term smoke & ash contamination of the air. While the fires were limited to relatively small areas, the smoke extended to major metro areas like San Francisco. Most city dwellers had NO protection, and were forced to improvise with "painter's masks", bandanas, or just stay indoors. In a severe SHTF scenario (nuclear attack, large volcanic eruption, etc.), we can assume the air could be contaminated for weeks or months.
Do agree Mary. Smoke from wildfires is an increasing issue, and as you point masks are not available, or surg masks are inefficient. AS late summer in England, from a moor (viral pic of the lady wearing a russian GP5), Moscow a few years ago, each year India, Indonesia, Malaysia, Thailand. And California, Portugal, Greece.
@@anitaleroy9442 Can you imagine the amount of smoke & ash in the air, if these fires were NOT fought & extinguished / contained ? Back in 1998, here in Florida we had the "Ocala National Forest firestorm" that burned thousands of acres and wasn't contained for over a month. It was visible from the International Spce Station !
Well aware, I am highly concerned by this recurrent pollution, wide spread and spreading. As instance I have shared with people in Borneo. the wildfire smoke, inside Borneo the girl there said it was "as hell" during 2 months. Very high unhealthy dense smoke at any time during 8 weeks. As dense fog, but choking and stinging eyes, throat, chest@@marytica123
Thanks I got mine years ago thanks to your review best mask ever. With they 3m adapter I can use my super light p100 filters for sanding etc or town travel
Well, prepping late is too late. The prices for various items are increasing like crazy, everything is going out of stock (toilet paper meme), governments close the borders and reduce trade, may also requisition gear from current stocks (including the civilian market).
I have a lot of the Curad masks but unfortunately can't afford the real deal right now. At least the new ones don't look as scary as the old ones did! Thank you for the review and video.
@propaganda dude man learn to spell first bruh. The amount of spelling mistakes are unbearable. And anyway you can't just tell something doesnt work without trying it yourself or at least collecting information of it and studying it. Can't skimp and be stingy on prices when a good mask can save your life literally
I have several adult size, but still need a few for kids. The 3M 7800 is great. Buy more filters than you think you'll need. They go bad quickly under use. Imagine having to walk for hours through whatever contamination. Practice changing out filters solo.
Put the mask in an air-tight mylar bag with some BHT and it will likely last the next 200 years. The BHT will sublimate and coat and even infiltrate the polymers and do its antioxidant thing.
Prefer the Avon FM50 MASK. Wide view, drinking tube, voice module and two filters. You can change out filters one at a time without taking mask off, and interchangeable outer lense covers.
I have this mask for more than 20 years now, used it for working underwater. It is a great product and its money worth. The only weak point is the plastic ring framing the mask and holding the straps, which seems to become somewhat brittle over time. Mine broke eventually. Please handle with care as if it were a piece of medical equipment. Best is not leaving it in the bag that's coming with it, instead, store it in a sturdy container (dry and away from sunlight), so the strap attachments can't get crushed. And keep the tools separate, so they don't scratch or pierce anything. If you choose this mask, be aware that the curvature of the clear plastic causes a distortion of your peripheral vision. You get used to it by turning your head, but some don't like it.
@@lordvalen8133 I heard the mask is good but the problems are that it's rather bulky and the filters are used only for the mask, so you can't put nato filters on it, you can make it a 40mm mask but you know that kinda stuff is rather daring and risky Also they are expensive as hell
@@sextuspompeius1266 The emegency services version, the FRR uses standard NATO 40mm filters. The form factor complaint is understandable, but that can be said about any mask.
Oh my, I just realized I have 2 Ocean Reef diving masks, that I do not use (for some reasons) but instead of buying some new gas masks, I can simply use my diving masks for gas masks! Thank You Canadian Prepper!
Canadian prepper, you still planning to put out a video on what two way radios work the best? Would be nice to see how each one works against the other one. Thanks.
Way better than what we had in the mil back in the 70's, an you ought to include for sale the Mylar bags an sell them on your site to, one stop shopping bro.
@@gharrett2092 You can take the tape off once the threat of inhaling fumes is gone. And there are actually Soviet military manuals that show that if your gas mas has been damaged, you can just take it off and put the filter in your mouth.
Something to keep in mind, if they make the prices way too expensive, you’re better off buying a oxygen tank breathing system, you won’t have to worry about inhaling ANYTHING!
Lol, MAN WTF???? U think ur cool being all creatively logical and thinking about something that didn’t occur to me? This guy be like: “ I’m sorry u feel dum” I be like “........quietly pouting.....” Keep ur dam perfectly reasonable and useful comments to yourself! I’m watching RUclips!!! Logical deductions and reasonable ideas that I think outside of the box are not welcome here
@@sheepheard483 wtf is your problem? Why don’t you keep your nasty ass comments to yourself! SICK of hateful people and mean comments. You sound angry, stupid, and in serious need of meds!!! Besides, he wrote this two years ago!! 😂 😂 CHILL OUT!! Damn!!!
patr10t762 I’ve considered those. My biggest issue is my 3 year old would currently flip out if I tried to put one of those on him. I want a pod I can just zip him up in lol.
@@mometal0519 hunter seeker gave an awesome link! When I introduced my kids to them I just laid them out and let them "play with them" until they wanted to put them on. Then went into the instructions. Then they quickly grew out of them.
Speaking from experience wearing a gas mask for even a few hours sucks. Especially if you're in a hot, humid environment. You don't want to do it. The masks I've worn were supposedly fog resistant but still, hot and humid they got foggy relatively quickly. I can't imagine how much it would've sucked for 6 days straight.
I could have missed it so my apologizes if I did, but it seems to be more of the norm not to discuss filter life when masks are reviewed or the suggestion to what filter life is about. Understanding you can't cover every situation but many people do not know that once you start using the filter, and depending on the environment, they do not last days but hours. IMO, stocking up on filters is as costly as stocking up on freeze dried food LOL. Great review(s) on this mask and masks in general. Thanks for you efforts in educating us all.
Personally I’ll be getting a CM-7M because it has sweat drainage and better for shooting but when it comes down to the nitty gritty a gas mask will always hinder your aim so it is essential to practice with it when you go to the shooting range.
I just recommend a lv 3 half face mask, anything past that is overkill but really it's mostly just common sense, washing your hands, not rubbing your eyes (that's how most people wearing protection get infected is by rubbing their eyes or touching their suits) and keeping hand sanitizer on you
One thing to know is, all filters are not rated for chlorine or ammonia. If you live close to a plant that uses these, if an accident happened the gas/vapor could cover a very large area. Not a pleasant way to die.
I believe this is a good question... what about gas masks that are compatible with eyeglasses. I could rig it up to work with some duck tape, but this is a serious concern if the time ever comes I need to use one. Dont want to have the duck tape saturated with sweat and failing in the middle of a hurried escape or what have you
Most are not compatible. Ive not seen any around for quite a while but you used to get respirator spectacles. You will struggle with finding a pair nowadays tho
You can get an unused Israel gas mask for $20. Just buy a few current filters. The one that comes with the mask is probably beyond the best before date.
GSR 24 hours continuous use in CBRN environment, designed for hot, cold, temperate climates. Twin canisters (possible to swap canisters in CBRN environment). Drinking system to pass water through mask safely. I still trust my S10 pretty well as even with the fov issues 4 hours of protection is good enough for a rural area (unlikely to be fully encompassed with CBRN elements) not to mention that I don't own a GSR
I bought one of your gas mask and it did not come with a filter. I really like the mask it fits well and is high quality. Just wish it said it did not come with a filter so I could have ordered one at the same time.
expensive; you have chinese professional gm same kind, with 3 filters attachment (3 40mm thread, or 1 40mm and 2 bayonet ). Not so easy to trace (cheap models are more common on the web, low quality).
Hello my friend, I noted where you talked about mustard gas in here. They (Mestel) claim that the SGE 400/3 B is mustard gas proof for a matter of hours. The face gasket is a Butyl rubber rather than silicone and therefore will stand up to mustard better. I agree with you that the chance of mustard attack is very slim, but I bought it anyway. That said the mask alone will not help against mustard, one needs the whole hood and suit as your skin would burn so bad you couldnt stand it. Hey love your channel…I just started watchin you about a week ago. Ive seen you on here for a long time, but you know how that goes, we have our favorite channels that we click and just pass other things up. But i have enjoyed all that IO’ve watched on your channel so far…cheers!
I have bought this gas mask, what I am trying to gain information on, If the drink tube and canteen are proprietary or can you use any canteen, drink tube or water bladder.
I have not bought one for my wife and I because we have three small children and I would hate to protect myself and not them. What options are there for children under the age of 4?
I haven't messed around with gas masks since being in the military back in late 1979-80. Back then we utilized the M17. Filter elements were secured inside the "cheeks". But in order to change them out, you had to remove the mask..That could pose serious risk if the environment was still effected by CBR contamination. Was a very dependable mask in it's day though. But I don't know anything about modern ones..
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These masks are currently in stock on March 28th 2020 HERE: Supplies wont last www.canadianpreparedness.com/products/hood-sge-400-3-full-face-gasmask-respirator-with-nato-40-mm-ports-2-3/ alternatively you can look into mira safety gear for masks, filters and hazmat suits bit.ly/2v13wnh
Canadian Prepper what about speech diaphragms?
Cl3?
Canadian Prepper Coronavirus! Which gas mask is best for airborne virus?
Can you help?
Canadian Prepper I have knowledge to share. MOLEKULE.com they don’t use HEPA filters like commonly used in the US. Instead they use PICO filters which are electrically powered filters that can remove VOCs and Airborne viruses and other things like mold spores and allergens and more. 1 PICO filter lasts for MONTHS.
If you could work with MOLEKULE and with DevTac designs to make your awesome Gas Mask a full helmet with a rechargeable reusable battery bank, using the PICO filter, you guys could reach even higher levels of protection. One PICO filter lasts for months.
I love your product as it is now. It’s simple and straight forward. Just wanted to share some knowledge. Wish I could invest in you guys to make this happen but I can’t afford that rn.
The website wont open it keeps saying failed to open. ive tried and tried . i cant get to the store
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@@poppa4178 this mask is a deplorable, its make out of silicon it won't protect you from blister agents
@@gavina777 really? than why is it even considered a gas mask.
Well you can buy still working gas masks on eBay for like 30 dollars. I like the S10 gas mask because it looks cool
@@poppa4178 too expensive you can get a much better mask for 50 dollars than this crap
@@kenzow9479 yeah S10 and fm12 are very good, but I would also recommend the Serbian M2, thats my favorite
“Made in Italy” a little ironic considering there current situation.
What's even more strange, I'm struggling to find them this side of the pond. U.S. seems to get all the good stuff; even when it's designed and manufactured abroad (albeit assembled in the U.S.).
Hi fellow Ethan
UR GOAT ETHAN hello my friend, good to see another man of quality around here
How the turntables lol
Air quality in a post collapse will be dubious at best. Without regular maintenance and security, ...there are far too many chemical plants, storage facilities, gas wells, industrial facilities, military installations, research facilities, ...etc., ...that will fall into disrepair, succumb to vandalism, and suffer a variety of other containment failures. Not to mention a never ending series of both structure and wild fires. We have determined this much to be an absolute certainty. And we very seldomly say "...an absolute certainty." NBC protection is an absolute must have.
Western forest fire soot and smoke come to mind as a present problem.
It depends how close one is to the source, and what type of chemical. After a while the all the chemicals would have dispersed, burned off, etc.
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It's hard to divorce yourself from your marketing/sales and a truthful review.
Definitely get the masks that are coms, and drinking compatible. Me, my wife and son are a team. My dad was a army ranger and communication is extremely important in any situation. And as far as water and the ability to drink it with out taking the mask off is worth everything because of exposure. Also the ability to supply grade D breathing air to your mask system wile you change your filter is a good advantage in exposure areas
Do you have a mask recommendation?
Imagine paying for this and then suffocating with mustard gas.
That was my thoughts exactly what is the point when if you are ever attacked mustard gas's will become one of the most common weapons beach can be used for purifying water and anomia for cleaning having both in a shtf is almost guaranteed it's a very simple recipe and requires no exact science Chuck they into someone's shelter that only has theses and they are done
I got the 400/3 for a crazy good sale on Amazon about 4 years ago... I liked that it was a tactical mask with the big visor for shooting. I all for prepping but I have to say if you got yourself into a situation that your under attack from mustard gas a gas mask is the least of your worries.
mustard gas can be absorbed through simple skin exposure so unless you have a fully hazmat suit too then you will be in trouble regardless
Most standard military gas masks will protect from mustard gas. I think the best mask (for a budget) for a SHTF scenario would be the MSA Millennium.
@@flare9757 msa millennium is crap, they're made of silicone which breaks down easily with age and the lens turns yellow as well
I am searching for a gas mask which fit my ray ban glasses :D
I also wonder, is there a mask for those of us who wear glasses?
@@missk.c.7560 Been wondering as well.
Yes, because you have to go out in style. 😏
give the 400/3 a try I have one for every family member now well worth the money just my 2 cents
@@KL-bg8fi You need to get the spectacle inserts.
Great video! I liked all of the different visuals. I also enjoyed all of the background information about gas masks in general This mask is definitely top notch. BTW, thanks for the shout-out! I first learned about this mask from PrepperAgenda. Everyone who wants to be serious about their PPE preparedness should really consider purchasing this mask from Canadian Prepper's store! You totally get your money's worth.
keep in mind a 30$ isreali civilian gas mask with proper cbrn filters can accomplish what this mask can do, what you're really paying for is comfort, the ability to aim down a rifle comfortably and higher visibility, so you dont *need* this gas mask and there are masks that are about 80% as good and can accomplish to a reasonable degree what this mask can for way less than this one, the main perk i see to this one is it'd be more comfortable (i assume) to wear for *VERY* extended periods of time
calvin huddleston CP said old gas masks don’t keep you alive and just do long enough to complete a mission. He said “don’t be a fool, go new school” do you think he’s correct on this? Obviously expired filters aren’t smart but like with the Israeli gas mask you’ve mentioned I’ve purchased a Chinese $20 mask. Do you think they work as good as the 120$ masks?
@@oliverfasola19 well theres good masks and bad masks across the board regardless of age, honestly i wouldnt buy a chinese gas mask weaponsandstuff93 is more of an expert on gas masks then CP is so i recommend checking him out, there are awesome masks like the avon fm12 that are old but still considered to be one of the best gas masks on the market and half the price of this thing, if you are going to buy a gas mask at dirt cheap i recommend the isreali civilian masks, they'll work but they do fog and you cant shoulder a rifle with it, id say the most important part of a gas masks ability to do its job beyond a good seal is its filter which arent that expensive
calvin huddleston thank you for your advice and weaponsandstuff93 is great for gas mask content. I’ve definitely been interested in the Israeli gas mask but they went off the market for a while ( a few months ago anyways ). Weapons and stuff reviewed the TF-1 Chinese mask, that’s what I bought but I’m still worried it’s not going to work even with good filters. It pressurizes good but still it’s hard to trust China
@@oliverfasola19 i'd say trust weaponsandstuff, however he did adress and this is something you should keep in mind, gas masks are made with the facial structures of the host nation in mind, so while a british avon fm12 might work great for weaponsandstuff a chinese mask may not even if its a perfectly good mask, thats why i chose the isreali civilian was because it was designed to fit a decent variety of facial structures by extending and oversizing the side gaskets
I now have the SGE 400/3 and this is a fine piece of gear. The field of view is only a little less than my normal peripheral vision and the seal is exceptional. There’s zero fogging and the seal held fast despite not having shaved. It’s light and comfortable, and has great flexibility with the capacity for filters left, right, centre or anybody all of them. It’s build really tough. I couldn’t be happier with it.
Glad you like it, I didn't like it too much. Terrible with helmets
Former 8 year CBRN US Army soldier here. Love the vid! One additional bit of info would be the difference between a "Gas Mask" and a "Pro Mask" aka Protective Mask.
Gas masks are only for gas, whereas protective masks are for other elements as well... The ones you are selling do* seem to be more protective than just gas. Great video!
Thanks for the clarification sir!
The seal is made of silicon, if i remember correctly - dont some gases desolve silicon and degrade it to a point where it brakes?
There a number of polymer mixtures used for the face seal. As I recall it, silicone was less subject to degradation than other soft seals aka elastomers. Silicone certainly forms more tightly to the face than just plain old rubber and is likely better than what is used in cheaper respirators. Further some people react to latex rubber but not nitrile or silicone.
Thanks, really interesting
@Kremer. Good point. Feel the same way about water filter vs purifier. I stick with purifiers. Cost more but you just never know.
This one of your better vids. These have very practical real world applications.
Who’s doing this for the corona vibez? Just me ? ok.
Thinking about it
Thinking about it, but I can't find the diameter of the pores in the particle filters anywhere. I want to know if virusses could slip in between the micro pores or not.
@@frederikclaeyssens9201 I read that a N95 mask can filter out corona. I assume these masks are at least that lv.
@@frederikclaeyssens9201 the virus itself can fit through the particulate filter, but since it piggy backs off saliva particles/mucus from coughing, sneezing that would get caught, I doubt any viral particulates would get through. Tbh this is pretty overkill for a viral outbreak. You dont need a full NBC filter for filtering viral particles. A 40mm p100 filter is more than enough
I just recommend a lv 3 half face mask, anything past that is overkill but really it's mostly just common sense, washing your hands, not rubbing your eyes (that's how most people wearing protection get infected is by rubbing their eyes or touching their suits) and keeping hand sanitizer on you
I do own the SGE400BB, the butyl rubber version, for a few years now (7-8 years). Never used it in other environment than CS/CN gas. It worked flawlessly. I've been training with it while doing running and shooting drills. It sits tight on my face. Side note though, you better use a red dot/holographic sight on your rifle when using this mask as it's kinda hard to have a good sight picture and nice cheek weld on your rifle buttstock while wearing this polycarbonate mask. I've been using the CF C4 gas mask before for training and combat drills and it was easier to have a better cheek weld on my C8 for shooting but peripheral vision was way better on the Mestel than on the CF C4 mask's which only have two lenses... Nice review of the SGE400. 👍
To be fair the C4 is a much better mask as it might not be NIOSH approved but it’s a legit military mask, the SGE masks all failed NIOSH standards, this is why preppers talk them up and you never see government agencies using them
@@TFU774 The Airboss C4 and the MSA's and are still the best choice for me too. Depends on what kind of environnement you get yourself into. 😉👍
Got the old DREO C4 but I can imagine the Airboss ones being really good considering they make the LBM(C5) and yeah they both would outperform the SGE
Agree - not in use in most part of the world @@TFU774
Any gas mask that isn't falling apart will work with cs gas
the only thing I can suggest or add to this if it isn't already here is to use Vaseline to create a good seal around your face especially if you have a beard.
Don't be cheap with it either
Sorry my man, if you have a beard no amount of vaseline will give you a good seal!
Vaseline degrades silicon or latex products.
Don't forget to tell the cool kids that it won't work with a beard !! ... Don't mind my picture.. I shaved my beard off ..
Vaseline
@@-John-Doe- nope Vaseline will degrade all rubbers. Just water and clean shaved I was in the US army, this is the only way they work.
Gregory K. Silicone more likely. Natural rubbers yes, synthetic rubbers no.
More people are likely familiar with diving masks, where there’s usually a skirt of synthetic rubber or silicone elastomer to support the frame and lenses and create a watertight seal.
For Silicone, most people wouldn't know what silicone liquid or grease was, let alone where to find the stuff _(diving supplies)._
@@gregoryk.9815 yea but in shtf how long u need the mask? It kinda depends
If it's very short facial hair, it still works. Above 5mm hair length though I wouldn't recommend. But 3-5 day facial hair it's fine, I've tested it with a Avon FM-12. But remember that every masks are different, some may seal very good, the sizing matters too, how you tighten the straps, the state of the seals and so on. It's recommended to go clean shaven or at most a mustache, but personally I'm not a fan of it since it creates micro cuts/irritations in the skin which let's bacteria and shit go in and create infected pimples as a result. Trimmed as short as possible is what I prefer, better for skin hygiene. Especially since our skins already produce sebum oil which is a natural protector against various nasty things. Shaving clean everyday is really bad.
Excellent review. Fantastic and compact in attitude and depiction. Thank You Sir.
Order from anyone but Mira. 46 days after I ordered still haven't received my purchase. Lies and excuses is all you'll get.
Thanks for explaining this I was about to get it from Amazon but now from you thanks again great vid
I might be able to buy batteries, bottled water, gas, ammo, food, and other disaster supplies for a day or two after a SHTF event, but a gas mask is one of those preps that will become 100% unavailable within 2 seconds of an event which requires respiratory protection. Anyone that can fit these in their prepping budget should get one sooner rather than later.
Yes, but dont buy this one. There are better stuff that you can spend 250$ on. Just go and buy like a GP8 or a FM12. Dont buy this, its crap
Budk.com has polish,Russian, and Czech milsurp gas masks for $12.99-$24.99
@@ChiTownGuerrilla That cold-war ancient stuff has asbestos in the filters. I would hasitate to use it even if my life depended on it.
@@Nxt25 LOL ancient? Not really, the one I got (polish MP5, best one IMO $25.99) were used up until a few years ago. Also they actually were tested for asbestos and none was found. Either way they take NATO filters, you act like you cant jus buy a new filter.
Research before you make claims. Nobody but a clueless derelict is going to be using a 1960's USSR charcoal filter.
I used something like this in the army and also at work later in oil and gas industrie. Same filters, masks were an older model. works good. Needs an introduction for how to safely change filters.
For real safety you need the full body condom, of course. With built in toilet. You just get problems with mold after one or two days.
It was likely an mcu 2p
@@sextuspompeius1266 You mean the filter mask? I think it was from Dräger. I know the filter were. german army and later Wintershall for refinery and oil production. Same producer.
Nate, here are my questions:
1. Are you selling potassium iodide?
2. Does the SGE 150 take the 40 mm filters?
3. The SGE 400/3 comes in 2 sizes on your website, medium and large. Is there guidance as to the sizes?
Many thanks! Great video as always.
Not currently selling PI but soon, the SGE takes the same filters yes, there is a sizing info in this PDF on page 22. www.mestelsafety.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Protection-Equipment.pdf The only actual difference in sizing is the amount of silicone/ rubber material, the visor is the same size. The large has more, its the one I use and I think I have an average male sized head
The fact that you don't have millions of subs shows how fucked we are. I love you man. Thank you for all you do.
Huge respect for you acknowledging the fact that gas masks are designed to complete missions or to escape and not to survive, as per their limited amount reactive materials in said filters only last so long. These masks look to be top quality too. Do they have light weight particle filters too, because they would be handy for fire smoke? Also I didn't see any of the Potassium Iodide tablets on your website...?
dont know who's reading this, but for future reference, if you are going test a gas mask, do not use a vapor, (like a road flare) in a confined space, i saw a guy do this in a tent, and while it is hazardous, which this video addressed, it poorly represents the qualities of a respirator, using an aerosol spray in a confined space is better, because you can smell and feel the spray going into the mask, so to test it, use your hand to test the hermetic seal, then use a fragrant object, like vanilla extract, then test the overall mask by going into a confined space, and using some sort of air freshener or aerosol spray, I've even seen this done with a pack of ciggarettes
I prefer pepper spray
These prices r outrageous
There mask prices that blows this price away
Wide Awake not for me
@@walterhartwellwhite346 have fun wasting your money man
Issac Arellano Dude I don’t have money my net worth is like $500 😂
Issac Arellano And also I want to be a prepper and invest in a doomsday bunker and have 50 years of food supply etc
Thank you. I got some knowledge as well as a tutorial.
Great video. I've been trying to find some info on masks but didn't know what to look for. Thank you so much for clearing things up.
I shall release this year ASAP an handbook about respiratory protection, available on line
Great, when are we going to see something on CBRN for K9's (Dogs) as I have been looking at options here to protect man's best friend? Big market for anyone who wants to tap into the sales from dog owners?
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I do love the filter canister design as it less subject to rain what is used on most industrial respirators as filter cartridges.
If the canisters cover the range of industrial chemicals, suspect I am in. A HEPA filter is pretty important as practical measure.
For Mustard Gas Protection you need the Mestel SGE 400/3 BB model
THE RECENT CALIFORNIA WILDFIRES have illustrated a very serious threat : long term smoke & ash contamination of the air. While the fires were limited to relatively small areas, the smoke extended to major metro areas like San Francisco. Most city dwellers had NO protection, and were forced to improvise with "painter's masks", bandanas, or just stay indoors. In a severe SHTF scenario (nuclear attack, large volcanic eruption, etc.), we can assume the air could be contaminated for weeks or months.
Do agree Mary. Smoke from wildfires is an increasing issue, and as you point masks are not available, or surg masks are inefficient. AS late summer in England, from a moor (viral pic of the lady wearing a russian GP5), Moscow a few years ago, each year India, Indonesia, Malaysia, Thailand. And California, Portugal, Greece.
@@anitaleroy9442 Can you imagine the amount of smoke & ash in the air, if these fires were NOT fought & extinguished / contained ? Back in 1998, here in Florida we had the "Ocala National Forest firestorm" that burned thousands of acres and wasn't contained for over a month. It was visible from the International Spce Station !
Well aware, I am highly concerned by this recurrent pollution, wide spread and spreading. As instance I have shared with people in Borneo. the wildfire smoke, inside Borneo the girl there said it was "as hell" during 2 months. Very high unhealthy dense smoke at any time during 8 weeks. As dense fog, but choking and stinging eyes, throat, chest@@marytica123
Who's here because of the Corona Beer pandemic?
Me
You mean the boogaloo
Corona: - "La cervesa mas fina"
Great review, Thank You. Was wondering if you have any information on full face gas mask for dogs. I consider my dog just as much family.
GuYs ThE GP-5 iS tHe BeSt MaSk
Thanks I got mine years ago thanks to your review best mask ever. With they 3m adapter I can use my super light p100 filters for sanding etc or town travel
Priceless information. New sub.
Very informative video thanks
Currently prepping for coronavirus. Better late than never.
For a sec I thought you said "better late than fever" and was like "hah that's good"
I personally made a makeshift charcoal and alcohol based gas mask filter
My you are correct fast forward to today
Well, prepping late is too late. The prices for various items are increasing like crazy, everything is going out of stock (toilet paper meme), governments close the borders and reduce trade, may also requisition gear from current stocks (including the civilian market).
I have a lot of the Curad masks but unfortunately can't afford the real deal right now. At least the new ones don't look as scary as the old ones did! Thank you for the review and video.
How do I tell what size I need?
Go to the website put in your shipping info and if theres a size chart it will come up
@gas mask boy agreed
@propaganda dude why does it suck, did you buy it? If so tell me pls because I was thinking of buying it
@propaganda dude aight, thanks
@propaganda dude man learn to spell first bruh. The amount of spelling mistakes are unbearable. And anyway you can't just tell something doesnt work without trying it yourself or at least collecting information of it and studying it. Can't skimp and be stingy on prices when a good mask can save your life literally
I have several adult size, but still need a few for kids. The 3M 7800 is great. Buy more filters than you think you'll need. They go bad quickly under use. Imagine having to walk for hours through whatever contamination. Practice changing out filters solo.
Agree. And training to walk and wear them for an extended time is a must.
Artyom wants to know your location
Put the mask in an air-tight mylar bag with some BHT and it will likely last the next 200 years.
The BHT will sublimate and coat and even infiltrate the polymers and do its antioxidant thing.
Now you have to update your Canadian prepper logo ;)
Prefer the Avon FM50 MASK. Wide view, drinking tube, voice module and two filters. You can change out filters one at a time without taking mask off, and interchangeable outer lense covers.
@Anglo Commando someone with common sense
Ex British army so I think I'll stick with the s10 and British army nbc suit... Is fall out what they say it is? Watch Galen Winsor vid
I prefer the GSR
@Proud Unionist I can buy new NATO stock gsr filters for £10 a pair.
Ill keep my FM12... This mask 250$!? You can buy better stuff with that money...
Mike Murphy aren’t the British suits charcoal lined
Rubber is better
I have this mask for more than 20 years now, used it for working underwater. It is a great product and its money worth. The only weak point is the plastic ring framing the mask and holding the straps, which seems to become somewhat brittle over time. Mine broke eventually. Please handle with care as if it were a piece of medical equipment. Best is not leaving it in the bag that's coming with it, instead, store it in a sturdy container (dry and away from sunlight), so the strap attachments can't get crushed. And keep the tools separate, so they don't scratch or pierce anything. If you choose this mask, be aware that the curvature of the clear plastic causes a distortion of your peripheral vision. You get used to it by turning your head, but some don't like it.
All this is the weak point of the Estel - a gasmask after a dving mask !!
M40A1 with C2A1 filters. next question.
I'd prefer an avon s10 or it's variants but yeah a m40 is good and far better then this sack of shit
@@sextuspompeius1266 couldn't agree more
@@sextuspompeius1266 Why not the Scott GSR or FRR?
@@lordvalen8133 I heard the mask is good but the problems are that it's rather bulky and the filters are used only for the mask, so you can't put nato filters on it, you can make it a 40mm mask but you know that kinda stuff is rather daring and risky
Also they are expensive as hell
@@sextuspompeius1266 The emegency services version, the FRR uses standard NATO 40mm filters. The form factor complaint is understandable, but that can be said about any mask.
I really love your channel
So this is what Americans do in their free time:
ps, I am American.
On the sge 400/3 has a filter port left right and center if so you could wear all and be safe for awhile
The old style ones make great bongs.
Oh my, I just realized I have 2 Ocean Reef diving masks, that I do not use (for some reasons) but instead of buying some new gas masks, I can simply use my diving masks for gas masks! Thank You Canadian Prepper!
Canadian prepper, you still planning to put out a video on what two way radios work the best? Would be nice to see how each one works against the other one. Thanks.
Way better than what we had in the mil back in the 70's, an you ought to include for sale the Mylar bags an sell them on your site to, one stop shopping bro.
Those Sucked ! Had to take them off to change filters. Semper Fi.
How can I help protect my dog during escape, like evacuating a high rise building or similar situation?
U build a custom mask with a fan to suck air threw the filter for the dog. And build a sling so your hands are free wile escaping with your pet.
Just pop a filter in it's mouth and tape it's snout up.
Military dog harness have him attached to your back
Proud Titanic Denier hope no one feels the need to do that to you wile trying to save u.
@@gharrett2092 You can take the tape off once the threat of inhaling fumes is gone. And there are actually Soviet military manuals that show that if your gas mas has been damaged, you can just take it off and put the filter in your mouth.
Am very interested!!!Also for my pets
Something to keep in mind, if they make the prices way too expensive, you’re better off buying a oxygen tank breathing system, you won’t have to worry about inhaling ANYTHING!
Lol, MAN WTF???? U think ur cool being all creatively logical and thinking about something that didn’t occur to me?
This guy be like: “ I’m sorry u feel dum”
I be like “........quietly pouting.....”
Keep ur dam perfectly reasonable and useful comments to yourself! I’m watching RUclips!!! Logical deductions and reasonable ideas that I think outside of the box are not welcome here
@@sheepheard483 wtf is your problem? Why don’t you keep your nasty ass comments to yourself! SICK of hateful people and mean comments. You sound angry, stupid, and in serious need of meds!!! Besides, he wrote this two years ago!! 😂 😂 CHILL OUT!! Damn!!!
Awesome rundown. Thanks!
What would you recommend for small children?
Move to northern Maine. 🤣
I got surplus Russian "elephant trunk" for my kids when they were little.
patr10t762 I’ve considered those. My biggest issue is my 3 year old would currently flip out if I tried to put one of those on him. I want a pod I can just zip him up in lol.
www.rddusa.com/shop/kids-gas-mask-protective-hood-for-children-2
@@mometal0519 hunter seeker gave an awesome link!
When I introduced my kids to them I just laid them out and let them "play with them" until they wanted to put them on. Then went into the instructions. Then they quickly grew out of them.
I know where to stock up on filters now. Good shit CP
You could literally hav 50 dollars and have something almost as good
Ayyyyo Amazon buddy jsjjs
@@undead_games_ naww eBay
Isreali civilian mask, the one in the video is a piece of garbage
@@calvinhuddleston576 What was bad about it?
@@cappuccinosnephew1382 you're paying 500$ for something a 100$ mask or even a 30$ isreali civilian can do
Speaking from experience wearing a gas mask for even a few hours sucks. Especially if you're in a hot, humid environment. You don't want to do it.
The masks I've worn were supposedly fog resistant but still, hot and humid they got foggy relatively quickly.
I can't imagine how much it would've sucked for 6 days straight.
What about if you wear glasses?
Joe Anon yes was asking if they have a add on for prescription eye wear? Like military mask.
How can I help protect my dog during like escaping a high rise fire or similar situation?
Contacts?
Maybe contactlenses?
@@normangilden3453 Yeah, they do sell it for that mask model.
I could have missed it so my apologizes if I did, but it seems to be more of the norm not to discuss filter life when masks are reviewed or the suggestion to what filter life is about. Understanding you can't cover every situation but many people do not know that once you start using the filter, and depending on the environment, they do not last days but hours. IMO, stocking up on filters is as costly as stocking up on freeze dried food LOL. Great review(s) on this mask and masks in general. Thanks for you efforts in educating us all.
6:19 couldn’t help but make me laugh. Like the 3 stooges of the apocalypse lol.
I love my German M65 Gas Mask
Random Mando'ade they are very nice masks
Hey CP just to let you know for the mask to be effective you need to have a clean-shaven face so the rubber can properly seal to the face
Personally I’ll be getting a CM-7M because it has sweat drainage and better for shooting but when it comes down to the nitty gritty a gas mask will always hinder your aim so it is essential to practice with it when you go to the shooting range.
What about the dog man! The Germans did it why not you?
*genocide flashbacks*
Need this in 2020
Corona virus anyone?
@Durka Durka Mohammed Jihad I was just checking if anyone else is here cause of the coronavirus
I just recommend a lv 3 half face mask, anything past that is overkill but really it's mostly just common sense, washing your hands, not rubbing your eyes (that's how most people wearing protection get infected is by rubbing their eyes or touching their suits) and keeping hand sanitizer on you
My wife and I have the Israeli and danish gasmasks.
Your prices are crazy . I can get the same thing on Amazon cheaper ...sorry
Use honey
One thing to know is, all filters are not rated for chlorine or ammonia. If you live close to a plant that uses these, if an accident happened the gas/vapor could cover a very large area. Not a pleasant way to die.
chlorine, acid gas; ammonia, in high level pollution, specific canister, yes. both gases are VERY common (pools, cold industry, etc.)
there is no pleasant way to die
I believe this is a good question... what about gas masks that are compatible with eyeglasses. I could rig it up to work with some duck tape, but this is a serious concern if the time ever comes I need to use one. Dont want to have the duck tape saturated with sweat and failing in the middle of a hurried escape or what have you
Most are not compatible. Ive not seen any around for quite a while but you used to get respirator spectacles.
You will struggle with finding a pair nowadays tho
You can get an unused Israel gas mask for $20. Just buy a few current filters. The one that comes with the mask is probably beyond the best before date.
That slav at 1:38 is just vibin bro.
I actually really like your gas mask's tho
lol, if the world is going to shit, might as well enjoy it one last time
The best gas mask in my opinion has to be good with opticals in case i have to use a gun so fm12 is better in my opinion
Just picked this one up.... a great mask for a reasonable price. Got it with one can for $215.
Could've got an S10 and filters for much of that price
GSR
24 hours continuous use in CBRN environment, designed for hot, cold, temperate climates. Twin canisters (possible to swap canisters in CBRN environment). Drinking system to pass water through mask safely.
I still trust my S10 pretty well as even with the fov issues 4 hours of protection is good enough for a rural area (unlikely to be fully encompassed with CBRN elements) not to mention that I don't own a GSR
Dräger, Mira have more or less the same specifics of the Mestel, with a desing not borrowed to a diver's mask
Great channel. Nice work.
This is great! Thanks for the video!
I bought one of your gas mask and it did not come with a filter. I really like the mask it fits well and is high quality. Just wish it said it did not come with a filter so I could have ordered one at the same time.
Additionally, you can purchase eye glasses frame that works with that type of mask, and have your eye doctor fit in the lenses for you. 😎
Well done
prolly gunna need these soon thanks.
Best mask is the 3M 7000. Because it’s compatible with NATO NBC filters and common 3M filters from Walmart.
expensive; you have chinese professional gm same kind, with 3 filters attachment (3 40mm thread, or 1 40mm and 2 bayonet ). Not so easy to trace (cheap models are more common on the web, low quality).
I am finaly the 3
thank you
Hello my friend, I noted where you talked about mustard gas in here. They (Mestel) claim that the SGE 400/3 B is mustard gas proof for a matter of hours. The face gasket is a Butyl rubber rather than silicone and therefore will stand up to mustard better. I agree with you that the chance of mustard attack is very slim, but I bought it anyway. That said the mask alone will not help against mustard, one needs the whole hood and suit as your skin would burn so bad you couldnt stand it. Hey love your channel…I just started watchin you about a week ago. Ive seen you on here for a long time, but you know how that goes, we have our favorite channels that we click and just pass other things up. But i have enjoyed all that IO’ve watched on your channel so far…cheers!
I think he meant it failed niosh testing for leaking
great video.
i just ordered one. thanks for the video
Very informative and helpful I just subscribed thanks alot for the info
I have bought this gas mask, what I am trying to gain information on, If the drink tube and canteen are proprietary or can you use any canteen, drink tube or water bladder.
Israeli masks are probably the best for the price. They accept all 40mm filters, and come at a good price range.
The Avon FM12 is good too
I have not bought one for my wife and I because we have three small children and I would hate to protect myself and not them. What options are there for children under the age of 4?
I haven't messed around with gas masks since being in the military back in late 1979-80.
Back then we utilized the M17.
Filter elements were secured inside the "cheeks".
But in order to change them out, you had to remove the mask..That could pose serious risk if the environment was still effected by CBR contamination.
Was a very dependable mask in it's day though.
But I don't know anything about modern ones..
The new M50's filters can be swapped in a contaminated area.
gas mask finn the s6 and s10 were definitely way better but it’s pushing it with your Soviet claim