Can't believe people are hating on this transmission. The Camaro has a performance shift mode that activates when you floor it in sport or track mode that gives much quicker shifts. People will always find something to complain about.
M8 no it sounds like a crazy fast shifting transmission. All modern sports cars nowadays do that. Just remember it shifts 20% faster than a 2010 Porsche PDK.
my boss got m4 and I bought Camaro v6 50th edition. all the staff likes my camaro. it just looks meaner, better and more appealing in general than European crap. honestly, I like the interior of my car way more than mustang or audi/bmw cars. happy with my purchase! thank u
Chevrolet claims it does 0-100 kph in 4.4 seconds, while in reality it's actually a little bit faster than that. How awesome is that, it's faster then the manufactor claims.
TheHidalgo99 actualy most manufecturers does this, bmw x3 competition is claimed to do 0-100 in 4.1 but it does in 3.7, audi rs5 0-100 4.3 and does in 3.8, etc, etc
Unfortunately most Germn can't drive. Facing this all day. Running my Audi with 200 to 250 and they just cut in my track with 90 from behind a truck. Of yourse it's a violation of the rules but our police don't care about this.
feris 2004 Do you know a country where most people can drive? Of all the countries I have been to, people in Germany have the best driving manners. I quite enjoyed driving in Germany, except the gas price and public restrooms usually are not free.
cachem11 In every country there are people that see cars just as transportation and nothing more. I think people with less interest for driving or not having driving as passion tend to judge things wrong and in general are dangerous. For example Opel Meriva drivers, i let go of my throttle as soon as i see one. I live close to the german border and the unlimited autobahn and I can tell Germans behave really well, 7/10 times it's fellow dutchies cutting in my lane... So don't be so harsh for yourself bratwursten, i prefer germans on the road. :P
Glad I stumbled across this video, although the traffic was very frustrating. It is good to read the comments of many people who feel the engine sounds strange. I am making the assumption that many those are European viewers. For the longest time I have felt that the appeal of a cars sound reflects where you were raised and to some degree this confirms it. I have never liked the high pitch whine of the European supercars, whereas the low growl of American muscle moved my soul. There is no right or wrong, just what appeals to you individually.
I have owned this car since 17k km now. It’s an absolute blast. If you are interest in consumption figured: - 11,5 L/km since 17k km, i drive ~50% in cities, this car consumes crazy when warming up - 9,5 L/km recently on a 1000km trip with some high speed portions, but also the typical 150kmh hanging around speed What I don’t like about the car? There are serious wind noises when driving 150+, buy an M4 if you need a travel-car
I love the way when the dork behind the Camaro push him with his rubbish passat ; the camaro driver push the right feet on the throttle and bye bye the vw dork !
The gear shifts of this car bothers me. Look for example at the shift from the 4th to the 5th gear at 9:49. The RPM goes down to approximately 5000 RPM, but while accelerating further it still stays some time at 5000 RPM as if the clutch is released slowly (meaning that a real shift from 4th to 5th would make the RPM lower than the 5000 RPM we currently observe). Although this car is really fast, I still feel like it's slow because the shifting seems so slow and weird.
MrOmer NL The reason stock shifting is so slow on some muscle cars is firstly, it's an ss, not a zl1, secondly manufacturers set the speed and shift points for safety and emissions bullshit!! An new r8 shifts around 110 ms, one of if not the quickest shifting stock sports car in 17... My dodge srt in track mode, with hpe tranny softwear upgrade shifts at 130 ms... Not bad for a big heavy American car, huh?? And at third the price!
Ok first of all there’s no clutch. It’s an auto, 8 speed, called the 8L80. What you’re seeing is possibly torque converter engagement, lock up, flash to the stall speed, etc. You think it’s not pulling, but trust that it is. And pulling beastly. That’s 6.2 liters, 392 cubic inches (I believe) of cross plane crank, 2 valve,single in block cam power. Simple design, old school design, but damn effective and very easy to work on and make big power naturally aspirated. And very easy to increase displacement, safely to 6.8 liters or 416 cubic inches. This guys video sounds like crap because in person they sound like sex. Especially when they’re screaming on top. And there’s no 4 cylinder that sounds better than this V8. 🇺🇸👍💪🦅
Pure Crytex it's actually very quick with upshifting. Either the driver's throttle management is awful (i.e. He quickly lifts off the gas and goes back on and back off) or the transmission is slipping which would be very unusual as it's a strong transmission. So, I don't think the guy is a very good driver at least in this vid.
Pure Crytex I noticed the same.. these 'murica 8+ speed autos are fast only in upshifts but decade behind in every other situation compared to ZF8. Like few car journalist have stated.
Americans hopefully realize that the Autobahn is not a 24/7/365 playground and we have dense traffic, too, depending on the time through the day. Drive at night or Sunday morning and you can go 200 mph easily. But not anytime.
Without 200 more hp and lowering the drag coefficient somehow, below oh,say,0.27or so,I doubt it. Punching a 186mph hole in the air is incredibly hard to do. Some cars can do it,but a lot will need forced induction. Go watch the video on here of the LS460 hitting 283kph on the autobahn. About4500lbs,"only"380bhp,drag coefficient of 0.26,and a top speed of 175. Stock. 2007.
If I drove my Camaro SS in Germany do you think people would be offended by the SS badge?? I know that’s the reason why they sell the SS as the “V8” over there.
I have multiple SS badges on my Chevys. I live in Germany and there's usually nothing wrong. Some folks will get offended over everything, but who cares really?
I own the same car and I've only gotten it up to 275 but I don't live in Germany, so I don't get to drive there often. Anyways, I got the feeling it can get to 300 but no more. But really that's not the fun part, the fun part is flooring it and leaving people in the dust.
So, 285 kph is tickling 174 mph! Damn!! Out of a NA, cross plane crank, 2 valve, pushrod, “antique” motor with a 8 speed “slushbox”??!! The healthy displacement helps it accelerate hard! 🇺🇸👍💪🦅
love these Camaros. drove mine at 236 before had to slow down for traffic. put performance exhaust and the notes are sweater! stupid European cars are not this fun to drive.
Again, no clutch. This is the 8L80 8 speed automatic. Strong and fast shifting. You’re probably catching stall flash, torque converter lockup or not, converter engagement, etc.
i drove the C7 with same engine and transmission and found these old 2valve/cyl. OHV Chevy´s really lame above 5000rpm compared to the DOHC Mustang engine which likes to rev much higher than its red limiter allowes it to. Furthermore these DI injected engines have a huge problem with getting dirty inlet valves and area from crankcase oilfume. The 2018 Mustang Facelift as well as the new Corvette ZR1 will have direct AND port injectors to keep inlet valves clean. Also the 2018 Mustang comes with same 455hp and 10speed automatik (same tranny as in ZL1). So it will be very close between the Camaro 2017 and Mustang 2018 ;-)
tf .. are you guys deaf? 0:40 listen after the shift.. it doesnt rev up constant.. it dropped a little and then again. But that happend AFTER the shit.. it just sounds weird some times. 2:15 again.. it goes up .. down .. up
M8, this is an automatic transmission and because of traffic he is hard on and off the gas. With this on and off the throttle it is causing many up and down shifts. For the conditions this sounds normal, if there was no traffic you would not hear all this up and down shifting. This must be a heavy traffic zone on the Autobahn because most the time drivers get out of the left lane for fast cars.
I have a 15 challenger scat pack, stock motor, upgraded exhaust, tune and drag radials when I go to the track and had better times than a 2012 Audi R8 btw!! You Europeans couldn't launch a car if someone pushed you!!
Can't believe people are hating on this transmission. The Camaro has a performance shift mode that activates when you floor it in sport or track mode that gives much quicker shifts. People will always find something to complain about.
no it just sound bad af.. it sounds like it would break any moment lol
Brian Lear active rev matching
M8 did you really say the camaro sounds like it will break at any moment? lol
M8 no it sounds like a crazy fast shifting transmission. All modern sports cars nowadays do that. Just remember it shifts 20% faster than a 2010 Porsche PDK.
Brian Lear Just google Camaro A8 shudder, sorry it’s not a good automatic...
Those cars in the left lane driving at less than 130 kph are driving me insane
07:45 typical Toyota driver....
That engine sounds good.
my boss got m4 and I bought Camaro v6 50th edition. all the staff likes my camaro. it just looks meaner, better and more appealing in general than European crap. honestly, I like the interior of my car way more than mustang or audi/bmw cars. happy with my purchase! thank u
SS on autobahn? Nothing new in Germany...
"Jawohl Herr Sturmbannführer"
Amazing car. Even faster than i thought it was
Chevrolet claims it does 0-100 kph in 4.4 seconds, while in reality it's actually a little bit faster than that. How awesome is that, it's faster then the manufactor claims.
Dean Grimsell u will not see how fast the car is without driving it
TheHidalgo99 actualy most manufecturers does this, bmw x3 competition is claimed to do 0-100 in 4.1 but it does in 3.7, audi rs5 0-100 4.3 and does in 3.8, etc, etc
why people are blocking left lane if they drive at 150kph max..
because people are stupid :)
Unfortunately most Germn can't drive. Facing this all day. Running my Audi with 200 to 250 and they just cut in my track with 90 from behind a truck. Of yourse it's a violation of the rules but our police don't care about this.
feris 2004 Do you know a country where most people can drive? Of all the countries I have been to, people in Germany have the best driving manners. I quite enjoyed driving in Germany, except the gas price and public restrooms usually are not free.
cachem11 In every country there are people that see cars just as transportation and nothing more. I think people with less interest for driving or not having driving as passion tend to judge things wrong and in general are dangerous. For example Opel Meriva drivers, i let go of my throttle as soon as i see one.
I live close to the german border and the unlimited autobahn and I can tell Germans behave really well, 7/10 times it's fellow dutchies cutting in my lane... So don't be so harsh for yourself bratwursten, i prefer germans on the road. :P
they are not blocking. the left lane is for everybody and not only for people who want to drive 250
Glad I stumbled across this video, although the traffic was very frustrating. It is good to read the comments of many people who feel the engine sounds strange. I am making the assumption that many those are European viewers. For the longest time I have felt that the appeal of a cars sound reflects where you were raised and to some degree this confirms it. I have never liked the high pitch whine of the European supercars, whereas the low growl of American muscle moved my soul. There is no right or wrong, just what appeals to you individually.
Kept lifting off at 270kph, go all the way and do a real top speed. Should be around 300kph
I have owned this car since 17k km now. It’s an absolute blast. If you are interest in consumption figured:
- 11,5 L/km since 17k km, i drive ~50% in cities, this car consumes crazy when warming up
- 9,5 L/km recently on a 1000km trip with some high speed portions, but also the typical 150kmh hanging around speed
What I don’t like about the car? There are serious wind noises when driving 150+, buy an M4 if you need a travel-car
Are you driving the v8? And how much does it consume when you go pedal to the metal?
I hope you mean L/100km
oh good to see, it's not just Murica where people like to sit in the fast lane and hold everyone else up.
Its a desease everywhere, because the more left wing extremist Germany gets, the more stupid idiots are blocking the left lane.
Love the sound of those bald eagles coming through the pipes ! 🇺🇸🦅
I love the way this car sounds.
Im gonna buy it!
They aren't particularly sophisticated but I do love these LS powered American muscle cars!
It's an LT1 PowerPoint making 455 hp and 455 pound feet of torque.
I'm a lil disappointed in the 2017 Mustang GT now.
Minute : 09:30 official highspeed 🤙
it was still pulling too
@@urielgarcia3880 Yea, I saw 285 kmh and was pulling when he let out
Bumblebee ;) my favorite car
toubib waridz 😍😍
*Transformers flashbacks*
I love the way when the dork behind the Camaro push him with his rubbish passat ; the camaro driver push the right feet on the throttle and bye bye the vw dork !
Didn’t know this/my car was this good, I’ve underestimated it haha
Do I hear dogs barking in the backgroun, wtf ?
Bolide Hollandais That noise happens from the tyres when you cross a thick white line on the Autobahn
Bolide Hollandais yas
THICC
Have you ever seen National Lampoon's Vacation where they forgot the dog was tied to the bumper?
Spent a lot of time waiting for you to put that thing to its max potential with disappointment. Your on a dang autobahn! God freaking floor it.
Why the Camaro is limited here? The EU Model usually is not limited (the coupe) The EU convertible is limited to 250but not the coupe?
Maybe because the top would shred at a higher speed
feris 2004 yea i know! My ss touches 300. This one stops a 250
@@hofmannrudolf4898 He went over 280....
Awesome! 🏎
I miss you kings🇺🇸
fabulous !!! :) love this vehicle :*
AMAZING CAR!
Sounds nice..
Do the a10 zl1 please
i miss autobahn so much !!!!!!!!!!
Top speed camaro zl1 please !
The gear shifts of this car bothers me. Look for example at the shift from the 4th to the 5th gear at 9:49. The RPM goes down to approximately 5000 RPM, but while accelerating further it still stays some time at 5000 RPM as if the clutch is released slowly (meaning that a real shift from 4th to 5th would make the RPM lower than the 5000 RPM we currently observe). Although this car is really fast, I still feel like it's slow because the shifting seems so slow and weird.
MrOmer NL The reason stock shifting is so slow on some muscle cars is firstly, it's an ss, not a zl1, secondly manufacturers set the speed and shift points for safety and emissions bullshit!! An new r8 shifts around 110 ms, one of if not the quickest shifting stock sports car in 17... My dodge srt in track mode, with hpe tranny softwear upgrade shifts at 130 ms... Not bad for a big heavy American car, huh?? And at third the price!
The zl1 is 10 speed and shifts almost as quick as the r8... that is one of the reasons it is SO DAMN FAST YOU DUMB DUMB import heads!!
Still weird transmissions. I'd buy it with a manual, not an automatic.
The engine sound is worse than my 4 cylinder 1.1 litre. Just sounds broken.
Ok first of all there’s no clutch. It’s an auto, 8 speed, called the 8L80. What you’re seeing is possibly torque converter engagement, lock up, flash to the stall speed, etc. You think it’s not pulling, but trust that it is. And pulling beastly. That’s 6.2 liters, 392 cubic inches (I believe) of cross plane crank, 2 valve,single in block cam power. Simple design, old school design, but damn effective and very easy to work on and make big power naturally aspirated. And very easy to increase displacement, safely to 6.8 liters or 416 cubic inches. This guys video sounds like crap because in person they sound like sex. Especially when they’re screaming on top. And there’s no 4 cylinder that sounds better than this V8.
🇺🇸👍💪🦅
5:00
عبيد هلا
To anyone who's seen transformers 2 here's a reference
Isabella:I love camaros
am i wrong or is this a very slow automatic gearbox? sounds so weird then it upshifts or when he is doing a kickdown.
Pure Crytex it's actually very quick with upshifting. Either the driver's throttle management is awful (i.e. He quickly lifts off the gas and goes back on and back off) or the transmission is slipping which would be very unusual as it's a strong transmission.
So, I don't think the guy is a very good driver at least in this vid.
Pure Crytex I noticed the same.. these 'murica 8+ speed autos are fast only in upshifts but decade behind in every other situation compared to ZF8. Like few car journalist have stated.
Automatics are called slush boxes for a reason
10 speed
Its the driver feathering the throttle when he shouldn't be. He does it with the 10-spd Mustang GT as well.
Americans hopefully realize that the Autobahn is not a 24/7/365 playground and we have dense traffic, too, depending on the time through the day. Drive at night or Sunday morning and you can go 200 mph easily. But not anytime.
MURICA, FUCK YEAH!
Test the ZL1 out !
Too much traffic. Pick another day and time..
or go at night
Looks like he hit 290 kph or 180mph in U.S. speeds not bad at all wonder if it can break 200 miles per hour
Without 200 more hp and lowering the drag coefficient somehow, below oh,say,0.27or so,I doubt it.
Punching a 186mph hole in the air is incredibly hard to do. Some cars can do it,but a lot will need forced induction.
Go watch the video on here of the LS460 hitting 283kph on the autobahn.
About4500lbs,"only"380bhp,drag coefficient of 0.26,and a top speed of 175. Stock. 2007.
@@LeeePowers At. Around 3651 pounds it would not take 200 more hp to break 200 mph.
in my state left lane travelling is a traffic infraction
Almost 290kph, veeery impressive!
She go 300+
@@cirofalcocchio7424 I think that’s pushing it
@texasstreetkings537 ture it can go 300 but it need about full min+
Hi guys hi bro
were u in track mode
A video whit zl1
Anyone else notice the car was doing something weird every time the speed reached between 180 and 210?
Need more American car
Is it legal to flash to people blocking the left lane in German Autobahn ?
yes
So, let's flash to those egoistic people!! Go people. just flash to wake them up/ Tks.
Michel Rodrigues its legal if you keep a save distance
Yes, once. And from a distance. Once. Not all the time.
It accelerates so fast.
Alberto Lumbayan Jr. bruh you never seen another non american car accelerate right?
Top drive the 2017+ Camaro ZL1 10 speed auto next to see its top speed...
Boy, you drive slower like my grandmother!
And what is the constant flashing in the lane change? LOL
Bro why
why tthe fast lane the drivers go to slow?the fast lane may be for a minimum sprrd as 120mph at least
If I drove my Camaro SS in Germany do you think people would be offended by the SS badge?? I know that’s the reason why they sell the SS as the “V8” over there.
I have multiple SS badges on my Chevys. I live in Germany and there's usually nothing wrong. Some folks will get offended over everything, but who cares really?
Can you get 94 octain in europe?
in Poland 95 and 98 is the most common
hmm. bugatti chiron test ? 😁
camaro 2ss right????
We want the test drive of the Supra
Super Strike
Challenger o mustang plis
This boy got overtaken by a truck
When?😂
Test o camaro zl1/1le
where's the 330 km/h?
No, its about 300 kmh.
mintz idk
I own the same car and I've only gotten it up to 275 but I don't live in Germany, so I don't get to drive there often. Anyways, I got the feeling it can get to 300 but no more. But really that's not the fun part, the fun part is flooring it and leaving people in the dust.
Ist Limited in GPS 290-294 kmh
the sound is really weird . it shifts pretty decent but the sound of the engine after that is just weird . it’s like a cvt gearbox on the manual mode
Tailgator be gone at 450 😅
Prueba un zl1
So, 285 kph is tickling 174 mph! Damn!! Out of a NA, cross plane crank, 2 valve, pushrod, “antique” motor with a 8 speed “slushbox”??!! The healthy displacement helps it accelerate hard!
🇺🇸👍💪🦅
love these Camaros. drove mine at 236 before had to slow down for traffic. put performance exhaust and the notes are sweater! stupid European cars are not this fun to drive.
Uh, Lamborghini?!
I think the transmission is slipping
Left lane blocking is nomal daily life in Korea roads lololol
With a proper transmission it will be hell fast and without silly trafic also
The noise from the tires when u change lanes is ???
TheFunkyair The Noise came from the white markers
This is a proper trans. Fast shifting and strong.
🇺🇸👍💪🦅
Look to bmw 2007 Gpewer top speed 400 klm
Whats with the gearbox?Sound like the Clutch is overload.:-(
Again, no clutch. This is the 8L80 8 speed automatic. Strong and fast shifting. You’re probably catching stall flash, torque converter lockup or not, converter engagement, etc.
Esse cara tem muito medo de acelerar
DODGE CHALLANGER PLS
This drivers got no balls. I would be weaving in and out of these cars cruising at 170-175.
scorpios Bite yeah cos you drive like shit, americans for sure would swerve in and out and overtake from the right.
@@carloS-jy1fl I'll out drive you in my sleep. I don't care what country you're from. That's a stupid, presumptuous comment, CARLITO.
The car isnt his and if he crashes it hes dead
Plus watch his other videos of maxing out cars
8:10
TOP SPEED WHIT THE ZL1
That transmission sounds like it's gonna crap out any moment. Does anyone else hear it slipping like crazy?
gazzxr it’s the road
Your broke ass, needs to STFU
its not slipping
Uh, no.
why is this car so much more expensive than a mustang GT?
Mario D. Zmaj because it’s much faster and handles way better .
Floor it all the way and keep it there for a while, that will be much more interesting.
Motto you do it in an american car then, its literally falling apart
Looks like 285kph
i drove the C7 with same engine and transmission and found these old 2valve/cyl. OHV Chevy´s really lame above 5000rpm compared to the DOHC Mustang engine which likes to rev much higher than its red limiter allowes it to.
Furthermore these DI injected engines have a huge problem with getting dirty inlet valves and area from crankcase oilfume.
The 2018 Mustang Facelift as well as the new Corvette ZR1 will have direct AND port injectors to keep inlet valves clean.
Also the 2018 Mustang comes with same 455hp and 10speed automatik (same tranny as in ZL1). So it will be very close between the Camaro 2017 and Mustang 2018 ;-)
3.6
Oh teh gearbox is really bad !
Really? Why??? Fast shifts, on it as soon as he gasses it.... wait, is it because it isn’t some euro DCT???? Not needed.
🇺🇸👍💪🦅
"Top speed"
I'm team mustang
you must love the thrill of crashing into crowds ;)
Wacky wacko
Zl1
hat car looks like its doing 40 kmph at 200 kmph
runned over plenty of dogs.
Kinda roars like the Mustang 5.0 V8
3.6 vvt v6 majo
Wtf is wrong with those revs... Sounds so weird. Probably the reason I would never buy an American car. Cant feel save at All lol..
wtf are you on about
Sounds better than a m4 🤷🏾♂️
He maybe hearing the rumble strips between lanes.
tf .. are you guys deaf? 0:40 listen after the shift.. it doesnt rev up constant.. it dropped a little and then again. But that happend AFTER the shit.. it just sounds weird some times. 2:15 again.. it goes up .. down .. up
M8, this is an automatic transmission and because of traffic he is hard on and off the gas. With this on and off the throttle it is causing many up and down shifts. For the conditions this sounds normal, if there was no traffic you would not hear all this up and down shifting. This must be a heavy traffic zone on the Autobahn because most the time drivers get out of the left lane for fast cars.
Is this 2.0 or 6.2
American cars are like American people : Heavy, slow and noisy
Umberto aurora\ if your into necrophilia then sure
Umberto aurora\
Lololololol 😂😂😂
Philip The new zl1 can beat every Audi currently on the numbering!! With the exception of the r8 v10 plus, and the times are VERY close!!
I have a 15 challenger scat pack, stock motor, upgraded exhaust, tune and drag radials when I go to the track and had better times than a 2012 Audi R8 btw!! You Europeans couldn't launch a car if someone pushed you!!
Ironic Sarcastic Comment.
what is that??? poor car
Muricaaa powerrr but sadly that gearbox like a Honda CVT transmission
Fahr besser ein HOLLANDRAD !!! Im KFZ-Schein steht 290 Km/h . Und wenn vorne Platz ist , musst du keine Angst haben , kleiner Purzell !!!
운전 되게 못하네 뭔가 속도를 내는가 싶으면 또 속도를 안 내고. 답답함
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Bad schifts
Gott, wie langweilig