Saltspray as a salmon run stage would be cool to me, would be a nice way to bring back a map that would be uh, difficult, for multiplayer. I also totally agree on endless mode, no idea how it hasn't been a thing yet.
If Saltspray is in danger of being flooded, either it's collapsed and fallen closer to the sea level, or a large portion of Inkopolis's population is fucked.
Adding new King Salmonids overtime would be incredible. The suspense of not knowing what fishy beast is about to rise out of the water on Xtrawave would be so fun. Plus, if future Big Runs are used as an opportunity to add new ones, it would also go a long way to boost how special Big Run feels.
I'm near certain this is coming. In the switch online mobile app, if you look at the stats of a salmon run game where there was an extra wave, there's a section that tells you WHICH king salmonid you defeated. Its like King salmonid fought : Cohozuna
I believe that the Big Run reward should be something players work together for, not compete against each other for. Salmon Run is a cooperative game mode and yet they made this special Salmon Run event feel almost just as competitive as a Splatfest for no reason
Salmon Run is competitive in the sense that you are playing time attack, which is why Overfishing exists, and has existed since Splatoon 2 came out The idea of playing trying to get the best score possible existed before Big Run, the devs are just rewarding players for getting good at Salmon Run
@@internetguy7319No, you dont understand, the problem is that only a select % of players will ever get a specific reward, and also for example if you get in the top 5% and then go to sleep then just a few hours l8r you wake up the event is over only to realize that you fell back down to the top 6%, like imagine missing it by just 1 SINGLE EGG lmao, and also yeah like ive said fomo sucks, competitive-ness is good, but locking people out of rewards just because theyre not good enough isnt a good incentive imho, + you literally see everyone complain about it and fomo, literally everybodysones do it lmao, including me and hates it, and ive seen nobody, and i repeat NOBODY, defend it so yeah really again there is no excuse and i really see no reason why you should defend it too either, just give the Top 5% more money or smth but not time-locked and gate-locked EXCLUSIVE rewards, cuz, y’know, getting them is obviously good but NOT getting them is just massively outweighing the satisfaction from getting it. So yeah in short i dont see any logical reason why fomo is good and / or why you should be defending it, and nobody said ANYTHING about overfishing itself…….
@@internetguy7319Literally all that theyve had to do was to allow players to buy the statue l8r on (not that too much l8r on tho, plzszh, my OCD is already bad enough lmao and im saying this as a proud top SR player too lmao) with gold scales and then literally nobody wouldve complained, we dont like fomo and it should just disappears forever ffs its not that hard to understand.
It may tick people off somewhat but I kinda wished the older maps added in had changed topography. I kinda wanted Marooner's bay to be a tad more inkable and had more walls to climb up through. Maybe make the top of the elevator shafts accessible to stand on, idk. The one thing I'll knock Splat 3 for is introducing Surge and having like, 3 maps where it actually can be a benefit rather than a gimmick.
That's kind of a problem I have with the entirety of the game tbh. All of the Splatoon 2 stuff (which we've had for 5 years now) was brought back with little to no change when it would've been very welcome.
I think the easiest way to fix Marooner's bay would be to make the two metal rail platform connecting to the egg basket platform an actual inkable platforms. Same with spawning grounds.
@@yuming8845 I’d prefer to keep it the same. But maybe make some of the walls under the grates inkable just like spawning grounds. Marooner’s bay is the only map I haven’t reached evp 400 on and I’d say that’s one of the reasons. If you fall off you have to go all the way around. It’s so elevated that it’s difficult to move around in tight situations. It’s one of the more difficult stages. But if you get a good team it’s a fun challenge for everyone.
marooner’s bay is a terrible map not sure why anyone would disagree, having to rely even more on ink recovery with limited space is a nightmare. they may have thought ink throwing would make it better but it’s the total opposite. the same goes for spawning grounds; the 2 maps just aren’t suitable for 3
I think everyone agrees that the stupid flyfish needs a nerf. It's extremely annoying, and it takes to much ink and time to kill. In my opinion, the best thing to do would be to make their hatches stay open for a longer time.
I was thinking that when the missiles start flying and the hatches open up, so will the little hatch keeping the pilot safe. This way, there’s a risk/reward system for taking them out. You can take them out about as easily as any other boss in this way, but you also NEED to let the missiles fly.
My entire team died instantly because we were all next to the basket, a flyfish had spawned, and killed us all in cold blood (i just wish my bombs would go into the god damn bins and not fall out)
@@DjstudiosgoldI dont understand what you mean by that, if the little hatch protecting the pilot opens up, then how would that enable for risk/reward? Its literally the same as it is now, except it would just be way easier unless if you just make it an absurdly high amount of health to account for the fact that you need 1 full ink tank and a half more or less to defeat it on average.
Forget the major adjustments, Id be really happy with a ban on glowflies during wave 1. It's hard enough when the map is already inked up and you have a sense of who your rando teammates are. Without that, all too often, its pretty much an automatic -20.
Fantastic video, agreed with pretty much all the points! One minor thing I'd like to add though, I feel like Big Run didn't get as much fanfare as it deserved? Like I'm not expecting a complete change to a horror game in the lobby, but at least having the inhabitants match the looming sky and creepy music would be a start. The atmosphere was great, but it was quite jarring to still see the residents just :) like nothing was happening. Some alternative animations with them maybe looking around worried or suspicious, maybe some of them are in their Grizzco uniforms when spawned closer to Grizzco. Heck, even Grizzco itself didn't change much - it activated a light. Splatfest shows they're willing to do plaza changes, I don't think it'd be too much to ask that Big Run gets some of the same love too.
One thing that shocks me about Salmon Run is how hard it is to pick up for kids. My 10 year old cousin has trouble on the easiest difficulty so Salmon Run really does feel geared towards an older audience compared to Turf Wars
How so? Theres the various ranks for players of various skill levels, oh and also i fail to see how age is any relevant at all to the conversation, if anything it should be EASIER for him to learn at that such a younger age cuz the brain is just a sponge the younger you are, so if hes bad then thats just a skill issue on his part. 🗿
I'd like if they allowed you to use different sub weapons. Maybe limit it to just bombs so no one would be stuck with zero ways to damage a Flyfish, but getting to use Suction Bomb, Burst Bomb, Autobomb, Fuzzy Bomb, and Torpedo would allow for more playstyle variety. I also think that winning a King Salmonid fight should guarantee you a small amount of silver/gold scales, maybe in addition to the "exchange" idea.
honestly, i think weapons should get a bomb depending on the weight of the weapon, heavy weapons get burst bomb to help them survive, most weapons get a regular bomb, and light weapons get a suction bomb.
I definitely agree about adding abilities to salmon run, though I'm not sure that I'd want it to be tied to whatever color suit you have. Imagine having your favorite color getting Special Power Up or something. I figured it might be a good use for all of those terrible bronze scales to maybe unlock abilities, maybe either in a skill tree thing or just available to use in general. But, yeah, abilities would be really nice.
maybe they could make it so you can take a gear set from multiplayer and set them as you "salmon run under-gear" - like you specifically choose one hat/shirt/shoes that have their abilities applied to you during SR, but it wouldn't show up as ytou'd be canonically wearing your slopsuit over it, rather than instead of. I'd love to bring a bunch of Main Saver and Ink Recovery into a rotation that has Dynamo - maybe you could even set multiple gearsets, up to four, so that you can assign them to each weapon and have different buffs that change when your weapon changes on a new wave.
think would be most fun would be the buffs as consumables IMO I already got so many drink tickets so it would be neat to get a swim up sippy before a run (and even give you the option to get another drink and come back like multiplayer n' changing loadouts)
I expected to be vehemently against whatever was gonna be said but honestly you make a lot of good points. I really like the idea of Splatoon 1 specials coming back, especially with how Mr Grizz isn't exactly the most law abiding denizen(ilovethatsplatanapleasegiveittomethemediadoesnthavetoknow) Also one of the biggest reasons Salmonids are harder in Splatoon 3 is because the fodder ones are no longer slowed by your ink
I believe they’re likely going to be adding new King Salmonids in future Big Runs, and this Big Run was just the obligatory Cohozuna run. The Splatnet app shows which King Salmonid you fought in a run, which definitely implies more are coming at some point, be it in Big Run or just in general
this is my thinking too. The Manual does not mention Cohozuna very much but uses the phrase "King Salmonid" a LOT - they're pretty directly implying (from what I am gathering from al lthe dialogue and such) that "King Salmonid" is his title, not a different name for him. (Who knows, maybe we'll even get Queen salmonids???)
a change for salmon run that would be extremely cool is when the "thats a wrap" screen comes up due to wipeout, there is still time to come back to life until the " thats a wrap" screen goes away, and when you have the last egg for the quota to be met but you are too far away from the basket, you still have time to get the egg into the basket until the "thats a wrap" screen goes away due to quota not met. i hope this makes sense lol
B-ball rules! let me get that last throw in at the buzzer and if it goes in that's quota, and if not that's a wrap!~ >:3 So heart breaking to see my egg pop in my hand or the air as I'm shooting it at the end of a shift (hell that system already works during team wipes! Quota met but team gets wiped, but a wave breaker revives on the "respawn")
I had this really cool dream last night where they added a new wave, and honestly it was quite interesting 1. Flood the main map floods, the screen glitches out, and the waves seen at the bottom of the screen rise much higher than they usually do even at high tide, the players are launched to a previously unseen part of the map (in the real game this could be an elevated area on the mainland I guess), and they're forced to survive an extra difficult round on this unfamiliar landmass.
I think it would be great if there were special events every couple of weeks we get special grizzco shifts like a weekend with only night time waves that give better rewards or only low tide waves with thr same gimmick but I think it'll encourage more people playing salmon run
Hey Astro! Uhhh… I don’t know how these work but I hope this reaches you! I started making content around the beginning of December, and I always reference your videos when I’m editing, or just wanting some motivation! All the way from your “How To Use ____ Weapon” video back in Splatoon 2 with your Flingza Roller video (and I’m talkin’ the OG one, not the re-uploaded one 😂) Your videos always seem to have a perfect balance of both analytical and comedic content, so that your viewers learn something and are more educated while having a great time + having some laughs! I’m hoping I can do that in the future with my videos lol! Anyways, I’m rambling. What I basically wanna say is, thank you for always putting out amazing content and I can’t wait to watch more to come! …. That’s it. Message’s over.
Thanks so much Aznbolt! I really appreciate it!! And wow if you remember that video you deserve a veteran's discount haha Thanks for all the support over the years! And good luck with all your future videos as well!
I really love the condition voting system for endless mode. That sounds really fun, AND frustrating when that one guy breaks the vote for the obvious best choice.
Salmon Run should seriously get a versus mode like Left 4 Dead, one team plays as the inklings, the other team plays as the salmonids and tries to stop the inkling team from filling the quota
Tiniest of tiny changes, but I would love if Big Run filled your coho meter faster (maybe 1.5x or even 2x). This is a draw for people who want to farm scales and make the gameplay loop significantly different than regular salmon run - you might be facing a coho every other game.
The issues I have are: cohozuna not having guaranteed good scales for defeated. Special lockers in grizzco with new items from a shop called the slop shop. Also I want customizable slop suit pieces where you get to either pick one “salmon run” themed ability chunk. A vending machine with possibly ability adder. Like team ink throw saver, ink saver main. It would be cool to see the suits have different styles and they have the colors be usable as customizable colors instead and then the custom style of choice is the suit color and different chunks. It would also be awesome to see different low tide sides. Also on top of this low tide shifts have multiple baskets in longer shifts where two baskets with individual quotas. Underground mode should be a payload delivery style where you have 400 eggs in four baskets of 100 and you go to individual stations and stop at them having to protect the loads as the gate opens for the next station. And you could get boss stages with a developing worm like king salmonid where it puts power eggs in its neck sack and it has a snatcher riding its back with a fishing pole with a huge power egg on the line. If the king salmonid baby eats enough of your payload eggs it does a huge hit to your baskets tanking your payload amount and then causing less of a paycheck at the end of the shift. There could be special waves etc themed for the underground and you could even have super rare Teenage mutant Salmonid and or Mutant Salmoid foot clan soldiers etc to go along with the 80/90s theme. Thank you for listening to my rant. I will share more on the Twitter thread.
i really wanted big run to be the all grizzco weapon shift. it would be cool and also kinda show the severity of the situation. like the salmonids are in the city you need the best weapons we have available
They should add upgrade station for the weapon. Just like splatoon 2 campaign. But with the addition of reuse your special, increase ink tank, increase range egg throw, and etc.
I LOVE the idea of being able to have a different hat or suit to add a single big stat. I get the idea of letting people approach it from the same baseline, but everyone's play styles are different. Like, I have to run bomb resist on anarchy mode, cuz my reaction times can be a bit slow when it comes to bombs. On Salmon Run, I'd probably run ink up or ink recharge, cuz I can't seem to notice I'm running low as easily.
Also, I wish there was a special mode where you can pick your weapon. I just wonder how many eggs people can get if they get to use their main weapons or really build craft a team.
The positive and negative thing for the theoretical endless mode is the same system they have in “shotgun king the final checkmate” and that game has the best upgrade system I have seen in any rogue like, it is a fantastic idea.
I'm very new to Splatoon but some of these points are spot on. I was thrown for a loop when the map changed in Salmon Run. When I went to recon the new map, I was kinda shocked that I couldn't. I also agree that we should be able to add abilities to our suits. Maybe we can use our bronze scales since they love to give those so much lol There are many other points I totally agree with but the comment would be crazy long. Great video btw!
at the very least killer wail should be able to target dead players as it does the bosses / enemy players in turf war so you can actually revive with it
Your idea for abilities to be on different suits sounds great. I know I and others have thought about abilities being in Salmon Run before but didn’t think about it any further than that. Your idea sounds like a great place to start.
I hope we get actual different modes for big run for certain maps. I always imagined that for maps like mako mart it could be completely dark and we only have our headlamps and we have to take out salmonid in the dark or maybe hammerhead could just be like giant waves of cohocks coming across the bridge and we cant let any through
I was just thinking about salmon run changes, but I think it'd be pretty cool to have a special wave or event where specials charge like in regular battles, so more than 2, and the difficulty would obviously scale to compensate. But maybe the balancing would be a little fishy...
Edit: Jesus Christ I shoudve finished the video before commenting You gave me a genius idea for the abilities. After every wave, a selection of 3 perks appears on the screen for each player and they get to pick one of them that stays with them for the rest of the waves. Kind of like a rogue-lite mechanic.
multiplayer medals should exist in salmon run too, theres very little incentive to play better right now - stuff like most revives, little to no deaths, and overall having equal power/golden egg counts as a whole team should be rewarded, on top of encouraging people to play the roles of the weapons they get because quite frankly im tired of having to deal with stingers using a roller or smth whilst our teammate with the jet squelcher is busy shooting at scrappers. its possible to succeed with every rotation, some people just dont know how to play specific weapons 🤷♂
I find it so crazy to get a silver and even gold even if you didn’t kill Coho 💀 I want gold scales like Sea Snails from Big Run. It’s insane how we could have a real good rotation, yet my teams struggled harder than when they had a bad rotation. I want Nintendo based maps from different franchise for a temporary time cuz why not- YES REPLAYS YES GIMME- I WANT SHIRTS JUST IMPORT THEM INTO S3, GRIZZ CMON.
That last one is actually a good way to increase your points. If you were able to pick the hazard level and beat those wave you would get more points depending on the hazar level you chose with point cap of 60 or 80 per match to not make things too easy maybe, and if you were to lose then you would also lose a lot of points.
Ok the new stage introduction idea is actually really good maybe there would be multiple stages to chose to fight for and who ever chooses it the most and who ever has the most wins will be the stage that gets chosen and the rest will will not be until the next big run splatsville square as the final big run is actually a great idea it could actually affect the story of splatoon depending on how many wins maybe a modified version of it would make it work
To add even more rougelike elements to endless, at the start of the effect round (right after voting for effects), you get the choice between 3 weapons chosen from a pool of 33, some being grizzco, majority being base game weapons (maybe 23 or so), and the rest eing special weapons only available in the endless mode, each with their pros and cons
I don’t know why Big Run wasn’t a different mode entirely from the normal Egg Collecting. Why not have us defend a point from Salmonoids where you fail if it takes too much damage? That makes more sense with the lore of the event and adds variety to gameplay. Eggs can be used like in Coho to quick kill bosses or heal the point
So genuine question, why is Reefslider in Salmon Run? I'm guessing it was intended to be a way to clear enemies or make a quick escape but when a Chum can splat me the moment I activate the special and it can easily get caught on walls and slopes... why is it there? It feels so pointless that I often forget I have it and on the occasions I do it's completely unreliable or doesn't compliment the weapon I'm using. Splashdown is already in 3, just bring it over to Salmon Run! ;-;
It's really situational, but if you're on iffy situation where 2 steel eels going to the basket, you can reefslider to their tails. The thing also can pierce shields so you can kill 2 scrappers at once and steelheads (this one with perfect timing). Or bosses you want to kill on shore like stingers (usually like LT Fission situation) but it's really crowded on the lane
@@tarotnight457 I have managed to splat two Scrappers before by going through them and exploding behind them and I'll admit it felt really cool but I feel like it being situational is why I have a problem with it. It actively puts you in harms way to use, unlike the other specials which can be used at a safe distance.
Gate defense mode that rotates with regular basket fishing. Company meals that give boosts to stats. Promotion tests in solo mode so that people earn their pay rate. Yellow capsules never stop, they continue same with new gear and the purple capsule.
Tbh I wish that once you get a certain rank in salmon run you get a special slopsuit that matches the one u wear during a shift and YOU CAN PUT ABILTY CHUNKS ON IT so it’s easier or a map that lets you see where the boss salmonoids are you where your teammates are
Big Run needs to separate freelance and team leaderboards. It makes so much difference. Even then it’s still extremely luck based. I’m down if they just remove all known occurrences and only keep normal waves to keep it fair.
Disagree. Big run was completely fair and complaining that teams or overfishers are skewing the results is just obnoxious, given how few coordinated high level teams there actually are. No offense met though, I could definitely see the reward margin widening to 10%, it’s just the “unfair” bit that always irks me.
@@khedudcemquazar2278 First of all, I never "complained that teams or overfishers are skewing the results". There are two parts to my argument. You only addressed the first. Even then, I disagree because you don't need high level team coordination at all to achieve 5%. In fact, with good enough waves, weapon comps and boss spawning, even a group of profreshionals can easily reach 5%. This also ties to my second point, being the results are extremely luck based due to the random nature of Big Run. I suppose that's why they removed most of the "free" waves from the event in the first place. Imagine high tide mud mouth with explosher. Devs clearly are concerned about this issue.
I am the one person who really wants them to bring back the Angry Rain Boots from the second game. They were the only shoes I ever wore, and every month that goes by without them being brought over to 3 it looks less and less likely that they ever will. *S A D*
We're only a few months in, they might get added soon, who knows. Then again they might just add all the old Grizzco gear as a last hurrah when support for the game is dying. You never know with Nintendo. But I doubt the old gear WONT get added back
The 2 new rare occurrences are so much easier than some of the old ones, like tornado is physically impossible to lose to and mudmouths can be anoying If the summon enough stuff but are still very easy unlike the terror of getting mauled by angry chum in glowflies. Me personally I think also that the small fry have been buffed cause ain’t no way some fish with a plastic spoon would be able to kill me without getting buffed.
Oh my gosh, I've been saying "insultingly low" for years (mostly pertaining to the catch rate of legendaries in pokemon go, but also the past 4 months for scale drops in salmon run). It excites me to finally hear someone else say it.
I’m glad you acknowledged the lack of grizz gear diversity, I keep complaining about it in my friends discord when we group up to go fishing. I miss my XXXL Crusty Shirt and the wooden sandals. also eyyyy I have the same ‘no bitchin’ in my kitchen’ apron!
What I want most changed about Salmon Run is Flyfishes getting sent to the Shadow Realm. I'll party all day and night and the next day if they get axed! Also, your voice be smooth af.
I would absolutely adore having abilities in salmon run. Some of the minor struggles I have like a bad weapon or being surrounded by salmon could be easier to think through with abilities. Also, I believe an endless mode would be a perfect solution for the pitiful amount of scales you get normally. How many waves you defeat give higher amount of scales and a better likelihood of gold scales showing up. I would say hitting exeggutive vp 200 once to unlock endless would be a tough, yet fair demand for it. Though I agree this mode does go against the point of how salmon run is played, it sure is nice to dream about.
New additions would be great instead of just gear but they also need to bring back the “checkpoints” they had in the old profressional rank. I can’t ever gain experience at higher difficulties. I’ve reached evp 400 5 times and can still barely play at that rank. I can’t improve at all. And it’s super time consuming to get to high ranks too. It‘s so wonky I don’t even get how they released it like this.
A cool idea for the gear abilities could be ability patches, that you could buy with with scales. You could attach 3 to each gear piece (so nine patches total) and each one would act as a main ability. The abilities that are exclusively main abilities normally would cost higher tier scales (likely silver scales) to buy and only one could be attached per gear set, with the exception of things like tenacity and comeback, which would be three per gear set (no restrictions to where they’re placed, though) ability doubler would be accessible and similar to tenacity and comeback in the way placing it functions, though it would cost golden scales and stack differently. One ability doubler patch would function normally, two patches would instead triple all other abilities, and three would quadruple them. You’d be able to add and remove patches at no cost after purchasing them, and each different color suit would act as a different gear set.
Also, if haunt wouldn’t function as well normally, it could have two different reworks exclusively for salmon run: it could either deal damage over time to nearby salmonids as well as the one that splatted you until you get revived (if it’s nearby you this would stack) this version would be able to be placed three times per gear set like tenacity or comeback. The other version would be only peaceable once per gear set, and would still deal damage to nearby salmonids, but it would also let you throw and deposit golden eggs in the basket after respawning.
I really hope Ark Polaris comes back, it would be a game changer with Egg throw (considering everyone wants to go to the bottom on mid tide to kill things)
Salmon run just felt rushed in this game, or interest was lost fairly early. It's very fishy that they introduce a whole co-op mode that gives you the same hat every 2 bonuses spread out over 1200p. It just seems like they wanted to wrap the story up and give the art designers something to do so they can work on a new console.
8:11 thank you, people were crying about it way too much. chalking up 5yrs of skill and experience to "rng and luck" makes yall sound bitter. get good and find a team
This was a good video! You brought up some good points. However, I’d like to add one. Fixing playing with people of different ranks. Sometimes I play with my dad (who’s a lower rank than me) and I’m not able to progress my rank but I can lose if everyone else does. It just makes it less fun to play when I have no way to prevent my downfall, it’s just chaos.
I don’t know why but I feel like endless mode should be called something like overtime or something business like lol Also I want waves where it only spawns one kind of boss Give me the chain reaction explosions of steelheads, platforming fun of slammin lids, and to let me see a line of big shots trying to use the same canon
id love to see a sub weapon rotation but keeping splat bomb as well :] the left D-pad would pick your splat bomb while pressing the right D-pad would pick the random sub from the rotation. of course not all subs would work in SR but im sure it could be interesting to see which ones they would add or change for it
Just wanna say that you're probably my favorite youtuber right now. Between talking about Splatoon, Fire Emblem, and queer people in video games (and all the other various stuff) it's almost like your channel is for me specifically. Can't think of a video recently that I didn't enjoy thoroughly. Thanks!
i think smokeyard would be a cool comeback especially considering the new egg-throwing abilities. it would be a total game changer since in 2 you had to pray to woomy god that your teammate wouldn't let you fall into the water when you wanna cross!
I kinda like the idea of an endless or endurance mode, it reminds me of cruel melee :). That said it would be more than likely be a laggy mess so it not worth it just yet. Also phishy.
You've got the best pitch for an Endless Salmon I've ever seen, and the first one that makes me wish my next sentence weren't true. ...But for the reason you mentioned at the end of the pitch, I just can't see Nintendo adding a mode that takes more than ~10 minutes per match. 15 at a stretch of the Splatoon 'lots of short matches per session' philosophy. The thing aside the obvious 'more content' (mainly maps and kings) one is 'more modes' generally, and Endless would definitely fit in for that, though I don't really have any specifics I'd want for that - BAsically every time a data mine comes out that hints at them playing around with new modes for Salmon Run I get pumped by the prospect. Fishy
I wish that the abilities on the slopsuits will come around one day. And maybe the really expensive suits will have special abilities just for salmon run. For example, the white suit could drastically decrease the amount of ink consumed when throwing an egg, and maybe if they introduce a better suit in the future, that cost like 50 gold scales, it could have the ability to give you 1 more special, or +1 special each wave (if you already used one, that is)
Honestly, I would just like during big runs, every so often, the top 50%, 10% and 5% should update to show what you need to get it. I thought i got the top 5% due to the egg count it said, so after i got it i stopped playing. i just think showing the current scores that will get you to one of the % would be nice.
I wanted to add some things to your endless mode idea: - When a player disconnects or chooses to quit later in the line, they throw in a “break time” wave where players can re-ink the map and flop around, or throw in a boss-less wave with a horde of Salmon and Holdies to give players something to do. Then when the new player pops in they get bonus points for the next round then it resets to default. - They should also add multiplier scoring per egg. The final score/results is points based and should be individualized to eggs gathered, teammates revived, and specials saved. - The score can also be affected by how many times you individually died, specials used, and repeat weapons selected (like choosing two of the same type of weapon in a row.) Which can lessen the score multiplier per wave. So if you challenge yourself to using no specials, not dying, or selecting a new weapons class, your point multiplier goes up by like .5 per selection, maxed at 2x. I’m kinda rambling and I know there’s bound to be a *LOT* of flaws in my ideas, but I’d rather throw it out there and have people bounce off of it than not recommend it at all. 100% open to suggestions 💕
EXCUSE ME.
Sorry Mrs Mora, but there's no excusing your poor performance.
You are fishy
You can't blame her, the fishies are very scary
Mad facts
Listen, Astro, as long as Kora's painting, she's contributing to the team!
Saltspray as a salmon run stage would be cool to me, would be a nice way to bring back a map that would be uh, difficult, for multiplayer. I also totally agree on endless mode, no idea how it hasn't been a thing yet.
Yo chara you here too huh?
I fully expected an endless mode or SOMEthing of the sort before 3 came out, I’m still hoping we get it tbh. Missed opportunity right there
We want more Big Run fishy maps!
Oh he’s here
If Saltspray is in danger of being flooded, either it's collapsed and fallen closer to the sea level, or a large portion of Inkopolis's population is fucked.
Adding new King Salmonids overtime would be incredible. The suspense of not knowing what fishy beast is about to rise out of the water on Xtrawave would be so fun. Plus, if future Big Runs are used as an opportunity to add new ones, it would also go a long way to boost how special Big Run feels.
Although imagine how much harder it would be to get the gold badge for them with the diluted pool of king salmonoids.
@@dsch772 I get golds for losing, they seem like psuedo RNG
@@nanimo_null not scales, badges
@@nanimo_nullhe meant the gold BADGE aka kill 1000 cohozuna
I'm near certain this is coming. In the switch online mobile app, if you look at the stats of a salmon run game where there was an extra wave, there's a section that tells you WHICH king salmonid you defeated.
Its like
King salmonid fought : Cohozuna
You should also be able to change the color of your reflective vest.
Many colors are reflective!!
Ok
Fine
Oh!! That would be cool!!
colours don't reflect light
call me when the concept of the colour red starts working like a mirror
@@monetised4347 it can have you seen cars
I believe that the Big Run reward should be something players work together for, not compete against each other for. Salmon Run is a cooperative game mode and yet they made this special Salmon Run event feel almost just as competitive as a Splatfest for no reason
Literally...
Salmon Run is competitive in the sense that you are playing time attack, which is why Overfishing exists, and has existed since Splatoon 2 came out
The idea of playing trying to get the best score possible existed before Big Run, the devs are just rewarding players for getting good at Salmon Run
2 words: community milestones
@@internetguy7319No, you dont understand, the problem is that only a select % of players will ever get a specific reward, and also for example if you get in the top 5% and then go to sleep then just a few hours l8r you wake up the event is over only to realize that you fell back down to the top 6%, like imagine missing it by just 1 SINGLE EGG lmao, and also yeah like ive said fomo sucks, competitive-ness is good, but locking people out of rewards just because theyre not good enough isnt a good incentive imho, + you literally see everyone complain about it and fomo, literally everybodysones do it lmao, including me and hates it, and ive seen nobody, and i repeat NOBODY, defend it so yeah really again there is no excuse and i really see no reason why you should defend it too either, just give the Top 5% more money or smth but not time-locked and gate-locked EXCLUSIVE rewards, cuz, y’know, getting them is obviously good but NOT getting them is just massively outweighing the satisfaction from getting it.
So yeah in short i dont see any logical reason why fomo is good and / or why you should be defending it, and nobody said ANYTHING about overfishing itself…….
@@internetguy7319Literally all that theyve had to do was to allow players to buy the statue l8r on (not that too much l8r on tho, plzszh, my OCD is already bad enough lmao and im saying this as a proud top SR player too lmao) with gold scales and then literally nobody wouldve complained, we dont like fomo and it should just disappears forever ffs its not that hard to understand.
It may tick people off somewhat but I kinda wished the older maps added in had changed topography. I kinda wanted Marooner's bay to be a tad more inkable and had more walls to climb up through. Maybe make the top of the elevator shafts accessible to stand on, idk.
The one thing I'll knock Splat 3 for is introducing Surge and having like, 3 maps where it actually can be a benefit rather than a gimmick.
That's kind of a problem I have with the entirety of the game tbh. All of the Splatoon 2 stuff (which we've had for 5 years now) was brought back with little to no change when it would've been very welcome.
That’s why it’s difficult. The uninkable walls make it a good challenge. Makes you have to cooperate a bit and work together.
I think the easiest way to fix Marooner's bay would be to make the two metal rail platform connecting to the egg basket platform an actual inkable platforms. Same with spawning grounds.
@@yuming8845 I’d prefer to keep it the same. But maybe make some of the walls under the grates inkable just like spawning grounds. Marooner’s bay is the only map I haven’t reached evp 400 on and I’d say that’s one of the reasons. If you fall off you have to go all the way around. It’s so elevated that it’s difficult to move around in tight situations. It’s one of the more difficult stages. But if you get a good team it’s a fun challenge for everyone.
marooner’s bay is a terrible map not sure why anyone would disagree, having to rely even more on ink recovery with limited space is a nightmare. they may have thought ink throwing would make it better but it’s the total opposite. the same goes for spawning grounds; the 2 maps just aren’t suitable for 3
I think everyone agrees that the stupid flyfish needs a nerf. It's extremely annoying, and it takes to much ink and time to kill. In my opinion, the best thing to do would be to make their hatches stay open for a longer time.
I was thinking that when the missiles start flying and the hatches open up, so will the little hatch keeping the pilot safe. This way, there’s a risk/reward system for taking them out. You can take them out about as easily as any other boss in this way, but you also NEED to let the missiles fly.
My entire team died instantly because we were all next to the basket, a flyfish had spawned, and killed us all in cold blood
(i just wish my bombs would go into the god damn bins and not fall out)
It doesn't need a nerf but they need to make their box bugger so it can be easier for players to kill it
Idea make it so you can shoot ink in the holes when open until a certain amount of damage in each and bombs kill it in 1 bomb
@@DjstudiosgoldI dont understand what you mean by that, if the little hatch protecting the pilot opens up, then how would that enable for risk/reward? Its literally the same as it is now, except it would just be way easier unless if you just make it an absurdly high amount of health to account for the fact that you need 1 full ink tank and a half more or less to defeat it on average.
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Forget the major adjustments, Id be really happy with a ban on glowflies during wave 1. It's hard enough when the map is already inked up and you have a sense of who your rando teammates are. Without that, all too often, its pretty much an automatic -20.
Fantastic video, agreed with pretty much all the points! One minor thing I'd like to add though, I feel like Big Run didn't get as much fanfare as it deserved? Like I'm not expecting a complete change to a horror game in the lobby, but at least having the inhabitants match the looming sky and creepy music would be a start. The atmosphere was great, but it was quite jarring to still see the residents just :) like nothing was happening. Some alternative animations with them maybe looking around worried or suspicious, maybe some of them are in their Grizzco uniforms when spawned closer to Grizzco. Heck, even Grizzco itself didn't change much - it activated a light.
Splatfest shows they're willing to do plaza changes, I don't think it'd be too much to ask that Big Run gets some of the same love too.
One thing that shocks me about Salmon Run is how hard it is to pick up for kids. My 10 year old cousin has trouble on the easiest difficulty so Salmon Run really does feel geared towards an older audience compared to Turf Wars
How so? Theres the various ranks for players of various skill levels, oh and also i fail to see how age is any relevant at all to the conversation, if anything it should be EASIER for him to learn at that such a younger age cuz the brain is just a sponge the younger you are, so if hes bad then thats just a skill issue on his part. 🗿
I'd like if they allowed you to use different sub weapons. Maybe limit it to just bombs so no one would be stuck with zero ways to damage a Flyfish, but getting to use Suction Bomb, Burst Bomb, Autobomb, Fuzzy Bomb, and Torpedo would allow for more playstyle variety.
I also think that winning a King Salmonid fight should guarantee you a small amount of silver/gold scales, maybe in addition to the "exchange" idea.
honestly, i think weapons should get a bomb depending on the weight of the weapon, heavy weapons get burst bomb to help them survive, most weapons get a regular bomb, and light weapons get a suction bomb.
fizzy and suction would be so fun. fizzy, because it can deal with lessers super easily and suction because it will never fall out of the dang bin
@@seabirdflutter fizzy also acts like a discount curling bomb, so less mobile weapons like dynamo could actually survive if their feet got painted.
Yeah except washing machine grenade launcher just give it anything not bomb because well, it's basically a bomb you can throw multiple times.
@@ghosty3494 are you talking about the grizzco bucket or explosher? either way, your probably right, though burst bomb would still be kinda useful.
2 Player salmon run does NOT feel like easy baby mode, especially with how much Cap dies in game, just as Kora
Once half my team disconnected
lol called out
I definitely agree about adding abilities to salmon run, though I'm not sure that I'd want it to be tied to whatever color suit you have. Imagine having your favorite color getting Special Power Up or something. I figured it might be a good use for all of those terrible bronze scales to maybe unlock abilities, maybe either in a skill tree thing or just available to use in general. But, yeah, abilities would be really nice.
maybe they could make it so you can take a gear set from multiplayer and set them as you "salmon run under-gear" - like you specifically choose one hat/shirt/shoes that have their abilities applied to you during SR, but it wouldn't show up as ytou'd be canonically wearing your slopsuit over it, rather than instead of. I'd love to bring a bunch of Main Saver and Ink Recovery into a rotation that has Dynamo - maybe you could even set multiple gearsets, up to four, so that you can assign them to each weapon and have different buffs that change when your weapon changes on a new wave.
think would be most fun would be the buffs as consumables IMO
I already got so many drink tickets so it would be neat to get a swim up sippy before a run (and even give you the option to get another drink and come back like multiplayer n' changing loadouts)
I expected to be vehemently against whatever was gonna be said but honestly you make a lot of good points. I really like the idea of Splatoon 1 specials coming back, especially with how Mr Grizz isn't exactly the most law abiding denizen(ilovethatsplatanapleasegiveittomethemediadoesnthavetoknow) Also one of the biggest reasons Salmonids are harder in Splatoon 3 is because the fodder ones are no longer slowed by your ink
I believe they’re likely going to be adding new King Salmonids in future Big Runs, and this Big Run was just the obligatory Cohozuna run. The Splatnet app shows which King Salmonid you fought in a run, which definitely implies more are coming at some point, be it in Big Run or just in general
this is my thinking too. The Manual does not mention Cohozuna very much but uses the phrase "King Salmonid" a LOT - they're pretty directly implying (from what I am gathering from al lthe dialogue and such) that "King Salmonid" is his title, not a different name for him. (Who knows, maybe we'll even get Queen salmonids???)
Welp, someone was right. I guess they wanted to use the first one to give you the cohozuna statue
a change for salmon run that would be extremely cool is when the "thats a wrap" screen comes up due to wipeout, there is still time to come back to life until the " thats a wrap" screen goes away, and when you have the last egg for the quota to be met but you are too far away from the basket, you still have time to get the egg into the basket until the "thats a wrap" screen goes away due to quota not met. i hope this makes sense lol
B-ball rules! let me get that last throw in at the buzzer and if it goes in that's quota, and if not that's a wrap!~ >:3
So heart breaking to see my egg pop in my hand or the air as I'm shooting it at the end of a shift
(hell that system already works during team wipes! Quota met but team gets wiped, but a wave breaker revives on the "respawn")
I had this really cool dream last night where they added a new wave, and honestly it was quite interesting
1. Flood
the main map floods, the screen glitches out, and the waves seen at the bottom of the screen rise much higher than they usually do even at high tide, the players are launched to a previously unseen part of the map (in the real game this could be an elevated area on the mainland I guess), and they're forced to survive an extra difficult round on this unfamiliar landmass.
Step 1.- Delete Flyfish and Spawning Grounds
Step 2.- Done
I think it would be great if there were special events every couple of weeks we get special grizzco shifts like a weekend with only night time waves that give better rewards or only low tide waves with thr same gimmick but I think it'll encourage more people playing salmon run
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I really love the condition voting system for endless mode. That sounds really fun, AND frustrating when that one guy breaks the vote for the obvious best choice.
This is the most entertaining video on how to balance/ make changes to a game mode I've ever watched and I'm only half way through it.
Salmon Run should seriously get a versus mode like Left 4 Dead, one team plays as the inklings, the other team plays as the salmonids and tries to stop the inkling team from filling the quota
Tiniest of tiny changes, but I would love if Big Run filled your coho meter faster (maybe 1.5x or even 2x). This is a draw for people who want to farm scales and make the gameplay loop significantly different than regular salmon run - you might be facing a coho every other game.
Ngl some of what you said are going to be in the new season of Splatoon so
GREAT!!!
100% agree on getting replays. i originally thought that we were getting it with chill season only for it to actually just be scenario saves
The issues I have are: cohozuna not having guaranteed good scales for defeated. Special lockers in grizzco with new items from a shop called the slop shop. Also I want customizable slop suit pieces where you get to either pick one “salmon run” themed ability chunk. A vending machine with possibly ability adder. Like team ink throw saver, ink saver main. It would be cool to see the suits have different styles and they have the colors be usable as customizable colors instead and then the custom style of choice is the suit color and different chunks. It would also be awesome to see different low tide sides. Also on top of this low tide shifts have multiple baskets in longer shifts where two baskets with individual quotas.
Underground mode should be a payload delivery style where you have 400 eggs in four baskets of 100 and you go to individual stations and stop at them having to protect the loads as the gate opens for the next station. And you could get boss stages with a developing worm like king salmonid where it puts power eggs in its neck sack and it has a snatcher riding its back with a fishing pole with a huge power egg on the line. If the king salmonid baby eats enough of your payload eggs it does a huge hit to your baskets tanking your payload amount and then causing less of a paycheck at the end of the shift. There could be special waves etc themed for the underground and you could even have super rare Teenage mutant Salmonid and or Mutant Salmoid foot clan soldiers etc to go along with the 80/90s theme.
Thank you for listening to my rant. I will share more on the Twitter thread.
i really wanted big run to be the all grizzco weapon shift. it would be cool and also kinda show the severity of the situation. like the salmonids are in the city you need the best weapons we have available
They should add upgrade station for the weapon. Just like splatoon 2 campaign. But with the addition of reuse your special, increase ink tank, increase range egg throw, and etc.
I LOVE the idea of being able to have a different hat or suit to add a single big stat. I get the idea of letting people approach it from the same baseline, but everyone's play styles are different. Like, I have to run bomb resist on anarchy mode, cuz my reaction times can be a bit slow when it comes to bombs. On Salmon Run, I'd probably run ink up or ink recharge, cuz I can't seem to notice I'm running low as easily.
Also, I wish there was a special mode where you can pick your weapon. I just wonder how many eggs people can get if they get to use their main weapons or really build craft a team.
The positive and negative thing for the theoretical endless mode is the same system they have in “shotgun king the final checkmate” and that game has the best upgrade system I have seen in any rogue like, it is a fantastic idea.
been feeling this way for so long, we absolutely need gear abilities in salmon run, the mode would be far more enjoyable and manageable
I'm very new to Splatoon but some of these points are spot on. I was thrown for a loop when the map changed in Salmon Run. When I went to recon the new map, I was kinda shocked that I couldn't. I also agree that we should be able to add abilities to our suits. Maybe we can use our bronze scales since they love to give those so much lol
There are many other points I totally agree with but the comment would be crazy long. Great video btw!
at the very least killer wail should be able to target dead players as it does the bosses / enemy players in turf war so you can actually revive with it
This was your best video yet. Your last one showed how much you've uped your game , but this was even better . Good job!
Your idea for abilities to be on different suits sounds great. I know I and others have thought about abilities being in Salmon Run before but didn’t think about it any further than that. Your idea sounds like a great place to start.
I hope we get actual different modes for big run for certain maps. I always imagined that for maps like mako mart it could be completely dark and we only have our headlamps and we have to take out salmonid in the dark or maybe hammerhead could just be like giant waves of cohocks coming across the bridge and we cant let any through
I was just thinking about salmon run changes, but I think it'd be pretty cool to have a special wave or event where specials charge like in regular battles, so more than 2, and the difficulty would obviously scale to compensate. But maybe the balancing would be a little fishy...
Edit: Jesus Christ I shoudve finished the video before commenting
You gave me a genius idea for the abilities.
After every wave, a selection of 3 perks appears on the screen for each player and they get to pick one of them that stays with them for the rest of the waves. Kind of like a rogue-lite mechanic.
Beating king should give 40 points instead of just 20, it would speed up the grind a fair bit
Honestly, you are right about the final big run taking place in the plaza. Though I would imagine the Splatoon 2 one being used.
"I don't think it would be too hard to implement the Splatoon 2 [salmon run] gear into Splatoon 3..." And the monkey's paw curls a finger.
multiplayer medals should exist in salmon run too, theres very little incentive to play better right now - stuff like most revives, little to no deaths, and overall having equal power/golden egg counts as a whole team should be rewarded, on top of encouraging people to play the roles of the weapons they get because quite frankly im tired of having to deal with stingers using a roller or smth whilst our teammate with the jet squelcher is busy shooting at scrappers. its possible to succeed with every rotation, some people just dont know how to play specific weapons 🤷♂
As someome who played a lot of cod zombies as a little kid, salmon run has revitalized my love for wave based hourde modes
I find it so crazy to get a silver and even gold even if you didn’t kill Coho 💀 I want gold scales like Sea Snails from Big Run. It’s insane how we could have a real good rotation, yet my teams struggled harder than when they had a bad rotation.
I want Nintendo based maps from different franchise for a temporary time cuz why not- YES REPLAYS YES GIMME-
I WANT SHIRTS JUST IMPORT THEM INTO S3, GRIZZ CMON.
I won against big fish man but he only had that low tier stuff mannnnn and I got a literal gold from losing against him onceeeeee
I want that juice parka and original hat back. Those go so well with each other.
Crossovers are lame and dumb
That last one is actually a good way to increase your points. If you were able to pick the hazard level and beat those wave you would get more points depending on the hazar level you chose with point cap of 60 or 80 per match to not make things too easy maybe, and if you were to lose then you would also lose a lot of points.
Ok the new stage introduction idea is actually really good maybe there would be multiple stages to chose to fight for and who ever chooses it the most and who ever has the most wins will be the stage that gets chosen and the rest will will not be until the next big run splatsville square as the final big run is actually a great idea it could actually affect the story of splatoon depending on how many wins maybe a modified version of it would make it work
To add even more rougelike elements to endless, at the start of the effect round (right after voting for effects), you get the choice between 3 weapons chosen from a pool of 33, some being grizzco, majority being base game weapons (maybe 23 or so), and the rest eing special weapons only available in the endless mode, each with their pros and cons
Maybe on top of that, you could also see which weapon your teammates are picking, so you can decide which weapon to choose for yourself better.
@@phantom1053 that seems much better than blind choice
I don’t know why Big Run wasn’t a different mode entirely from the normal Egg Collecting. Why not have us defend a point from Salmonoids where you fail if it takes too much damage? That makes more sense with the lore of the event and adds variety to gameplay. Eggs can be used like in Coho to quick kill bosses or heal the point
At 10:49 if Salmon Run allowed for primaries and secondaries, sub saver would instantly be meta.
Tbf it could probably be nerfed to the ground for SR only, so it only affects egg throws minimally
So genuine question, why is Reefslider in Salmon Run? I'm guessing it was intended to be a way to clear enemies or make a quick escape but when a Chum can splat me the moment I activate the special and it can easily get caught on walls and slopes... why is it there? It feels so pointless that I often forget I have it and on the occasions I do it's completely unreliable or doesn't compliment the weapon I'm using. Splashdown is already in 3, just bring it over to Salmon Run! ;-;
It's really situational, but if you're on iffy situation where 2 steel eels going to the basket, you can reefslider to their tails. The thing also can pierce shields so you can kill 2 scrappers at once and steelheads (this one with perfect timing). Or bosses you want to kill on shore like stingers (usually like LT Fission situation) but it's really crowded on the lane
@@tarotnight457 I have managed to splat two Scrappers before by going through them and exploding behind them and I'll admit it felt really cool but I feel like it being situational is why I have a problem with it. It actively puts you in harms way to use, unlike the other specials which can be used at a safe distance.
Suggestion: flyfish take only 1 bomb to get taken out
Gate defense mode that rotates with regular basket fishing. Company meals that give boosts to stats. Promotion tests in solo mode so that people earn their pay rate. Yellow capsules never stop, they continue same with new gear and the purple capsule.
Tbh I wish that once you get a certain rank in salmon run you get a special slopsuit that matches the one u wear during a shift and YOU CAN PUT ABILTY CHUNKS ON IT so it’s easier or a map that lets you see where the boss salmonoids are you where your teammates are
Big Run needs to separate freelance and team leaderboards. It makes so much difference. Even then it’s still extremely luck based. I’m down if they just remove all known occurrences and only keep normal waves to keep it fair.
Disagree. Big run was completely fair and complaining that teams or overfishers are skewing the results is just obnoxious, given how few coordinated high level teams there actually are. No offense met though, I could definitely see the reward margin widening to 10%, it’s just the “unfair” bit that always irks me.
@@khedudcemquazar2278 First of all, I never "complained that teams or overfishers are skewing the results". There are two parts to my argument. You only addressed the first. Even then, I disagree because you don't need high level team coordination at all to achieve 5%. In fact, with good enough waves, weapon comps and boss spawning, even a group of profreshionals can easily reach 5%. This also ties to my second point, being the results are extremely luck based due to the random nature of Big Run. I suppose that's why they removed most of the "free" waves from the event in the first place. Imagine high tide mud mouth with explosher. Devs clearly are concerned about this issue.
I am the one person who really wants them to bring back the Angry Rain Boots from the second game. They were the only shoes I ever wore, and every month that goes by without them being brought over to 3 it looks less and less likely that they ever will.
*S A D*
We're only a few months in, they might get added soon, who knows. Then again they might just add all the old Grizzco gear as a last hurrah when support for the game is dying. You never know with Nintendo. But I doubt the old gear WONT get added back
My main gear set in 2 also had the Angry rain boots and looked really cool and I miss it :/
@@paperaleks4896 well they brought them back lol
The 2 new rare occurrences are so much easier than some of the old ones, like tornado is physically impossible to lose to and mudmouths can be anoying If the summon enough stuff but are still very easy unlike the terror of getting mauled by angry chum in glowflies. Me personally I think also that the small fry have been buffed cause ain’t no way some fish with a plastic spoon would be able to kill me without getting buffed.
Oh my gosh, I've been saying "insultingly low" for years (mostly pertaining to the catch rate of legendaries in pokemon go, but also the past 4 months for scale drops in salmon run). It excites me to finally hear someone else say it.
I’m glad you acknowledged the lack of grizz gear diversity, I keep complaining about it in my friends discord when we group up to go fishing. I miss my XXXL Crusty Shirt and the wooden sandals.
also eyyyy I have the same ‘no bitchin’ in my kitchen’ apron!
Great video! RUclips’s been on a roll with recommending new channels to me I gotta say, you have earned your sub.
What I want most changed about Salmon Run is Flyfishes getting sent to the Shadow Realm. I'll party all day and night and the next day if they get axed!
Also, your voice be smooth af.
I would absolutely adore having abilities in salmon run. Some of the minor struggles I have like a bad weapon or being surrounded by salmon could be easier to think through with abilities.
Also, I believe an endless mode would be a perfect solution for the pitiful amount of scales you get normally. How many waves you defeat give higher amount of scales and a better likelihood of gold scales showing up. I would say hitting exeggutive vp 200 once to unlock endless would be a tough, yet fair demand for it. Though I agree this mode does go against the point of how salmon run is played, it sure is nice to dream about.
Specials already got buffed in Salmon Run in 2.0 Chill Season 2022 but I can understand wanting them to be a little bit better even after that.
I’ve thought about the hub being the final Big Run being genius too.
New additions would be great instead of just gear but they also need to bring back the “checkpoints” they had in the old profressional rank. I can’t ever gain experience at higher difficulties. I’ve reached evp 400 5 times and can still barely play at that rank. I can’t improve at all. And it’s super time consuming to get to high ranks too. It‘s so wonky I don’t even get how they released it like this.
Your suggestion of splitscreen local multiplayer made me genuinely laugh out loud, yeah no the switch would actually just combust and die
A cool idea for the gear abilities could be ability patches, that you could buy with with scales. You could attach 3 to each gear piece (so nine patches total) and each one would act as a main ability. The abilities that are exclusively main abilities normally would cost higher tier scales (likely silver scales) to buy and only one could be attached per gear set, with the exception of things like tenacity and comeback, which would be three per gear set (no restrictions to where they’re placed, though) ability doubler would be accessible and similar to tenacity and comeback in the way placing it functions, though it would cost golden scales and stack differently. One ability doubler patch would function normally, two patches would instead triple all other abilities, and three would quadruple them. You’d be able to add and remove patches at no cost after purchasing them, and each different color suit would act as a different gear set.
Also, if haunt wouldn’t function as well normally, it could have two different reworks exclusively for salmon run: it could either deal damage over time to nearby salmonids as well as the one that splatted you until you get revived (if it’s nearby you this would stack) this version would be able to be placed three times per gear set like tenacity or comeback. The other version would be only peaceable once per gear set, and would still deal damage to nearby salmonids, but it would also let you throw and deposit golden eggs in the basket after respawning.
I really hope Ark Polaris comes back, it would be a game changer with Egg throw (considering everyone wants to go to the bottom on mid tide to kill things)
Ooo I love the hades ideas! I wish there would be a big fishy update but odds are its probably left in the dreams...
I just wish they didnt stop updating after only 2 years. Like, so much stuff we dont have from 2 in 3 yet and we dont have that much longer to go
i just dont like the trend of companies cranking out new games after 3 years of the original game. they need to extend it
Salmon run just felt rushed in this game, or interest was lost fairly early. It's very fishy that they introduce a whole co-op mode that gives you the same hat every 2 bonuses spread out over 1200p. It just seems like they wanted to wrap the story up and give the art designers something to do so they can work on a new console.
That's such BS it's not even funny.
Salmon Run with local co-op splitscreen would actually be incredible!
8:11 thank you, people were crying about it way too much. chalking up 5yrs of skill and experience to "rng and luck" makes yall sound bitter. get good and find a team
I rate this video "I have too many bronze scales and i hate them" /10
Welp, we definitely need the Bronze Scales now!!
Here's an idea: Grizzco-Enhanced Specials. It can gives specials like Ink Vac and Tenta Missiles a new coat of paint.
0:02 OH RUINS OF ARK POLARIS! That was my favourite Salmon Run stage, why didn't they bring it back?
look im only mad about not getting top 5% because i was exactly 1 egg short LOL
i love your idea of having effects, thatd be super fun
Nerf flyfish, when anyone look at flyfish directly make it explode.
This was a good video! You brought up some good points. However, I’d like to add one. Fixing playing with people of different ranks. Sometimes I play with my dad (who’s a lower rank than me) and I’m not able to progress my rank but I can lose if everyone else does. It just makes it less fun to play when I have no way to prevent my downfall, it’s just chaos.
More like full removal of flyfish
Well mr.grizz is the main antagonist of splatoon 3
I don’t know why but I feel like endless mode should be called something like overtime or something business like lol
Also I want waves where it only spawns one kind of boss
Give me the chain reaction explosions of steelheads, platforming fun of slammin lids, and to let me see a line of big shots trying to use the same canon
Oh my gosh I've been wanting abilities in salmon run since splatoon 2. So many weapons need ink saving abilities to even be playable
id love to see a sub weapon rotation but keeping splat bomb as well :] the left D-pad would pick your splat bomb while pressing the right D-pad would pick the random sub from the rotation. of course not all subs would work in SR but im sure it could be interesting to see which ones they would add or change for it
I never played lategame Splatoon 2’s SR maos and they looked really cool, so I hope we get maps like that square one back so I can check them out.
Just wanna say that you're probably my favorite youtuber right now. Between talking about Splatoon, Fire Emblem, and queer people in video games (and all the other various stuff) it's almost like your channel is for me specifically. Can't think of a video recently that I didn't enjoy thoroughly. Thanks!
i think smokeyard would be a cool comeback especially considering the new egg-throwing abilities. it would be a total game changer since in 2 you had to pray to woomy god that your teammate wouldn't let you fall into the water when you wanna cross!
I kinda like the idea of an endless or endurance mode, it reminds me of cruel melee :). That said it would be more than likely be a laggy mess so it not worth it just yet. Also phishy.
You've got the best pitch for an Endless Salmon I've ever seen, and the first one that makes me wish my next sentence weren't true.
...But for the reason you mentioned at the end of the pitch, I just can't see Nintendo adding a mode that takes more than ~10 minutes per match. 15 at a stretch of the Splatoon 'lots of short matches per session' philosophy.
The thing aside the obvious 'more content' (mainly maps and kings) one is 'more modes' generally, and Endless would definitely fit in for that, though I don't really have any specifics I'd want for that - BAsically every time a data mine comes out that hints at them playing around with new modes for Salmon Run I get pumped by the prospect.
Fishy
I wish that the abilities on the slopsuits will come around one day. And maybe the really expensive suits will have special abilities just for salmon run. For example, the white suit could drastically decrease the amount of ink consumed when throwing an egg, and maybe if they introduce a better suit in the future, that cost like 50 gold scales, it could have the ability to give you 1 more special, or +1 special each wave (if you already used one, that is)
I would change the title to how to “improve” salmon run because fix implies the the mode itself is broken.
Damn, we get to listen to the Xenoblade Chronicles 3 OST for this whole video? Great taste. You're one fantastic fishy.
Honestly, I would just like during big runs, every so often, the top 50%, 10% and 5% should update to show what you need to get it. I thought i got the top 5% due to the egg count it said, so after i got it i stopped playing. i just think showing the current scores that will get you to one of the % would be nice.
Someone kind of hope eventually we get a huge linear style salmon run map where the goal is to survive and get to the end like Left 4 Dead
I've only played Splatoon 2 and 3 on the single player mode and at this point I'm too afraid to try anything multiplayer.
Fishy
Frame drops was always a thing in S2 when theres too many salmonids. In S3 it's just glaringly obvious now (and is still happening)
I wanted to add some things to your endless mode idea:
- When a player disconnects or chooses to quit later in the line, they throw in a “break time” wave where players can re-ink the map and flop around, or throw in a boss-less wave with a horde of Salmon and Holdies to give players something to do. Then when the new player pops in they get bonus points for the next round then it resets to default.
- They should also add multiplier scoring per egg. The final score/results is points based and should be individualized to eggs gathered, teammates revived, and specials saved.
- The score can also be affected by how many times you individually died, specials used, and repeat weapons selected (like choosing two of the same type of weapon in a row.) Which can lessen the score multiplier per wave. So if you challenge yourself to using no specials, not dying, or selecting a new weapons class, your point multiplier goes up by like .5 per selection, maxed at 2x.
I’m kinda rambling and I know there’s bound to be a *LOT* of flaws in my ideas, but I’d rather throw it out there and have people bounce off of it than not recommend it at all. 100% open to suggestions 💕
The roguelike vote thing sounds very fun,, and well,, chaotic!! Grizzco weapons and two Cohozunas.. oh boy