Professional Perfumer Reviews Aventus VS Club de Nuit Intense Man
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- Опубликовано: 16 янв 2024
- Hey friends, today I'm joined by Richard Herpin - the owner and perfumer of Precious Liquid fragrances. He also is the creator of Tom Ford's Oud Wood among many other fragrances. Today he's tackling Armaf Club de Nuit Intense Man and Creed Aventus and comparing the two. Thanks for watching!
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This can be an entire series. Doesn’t necessarily need to be a comparison to clones. Just breakdowns of legendary frags.
I like the parable that CDNMI is like a caricature of Aventus.
But I'll have to stick to the cheap stuff, I don't want to be punched in the face when my wife finds out I bought a fragrance for $300 that you can barely smell. 👊💥
Where you finding a full bottle of aventus for 300
@@Seasniffer69 True that, here in Sweden 50ml is now $250 and 100ml is $350.
@@pallemaniac i know he said in the video full presentations of aventus for around 300 on grey market BUT i havent seen it on any discounters for less than $360-400.
Aventus is so expensive. I could buy 3 chanels for one aventus and cover at minimum 3 seasons.
@@Seasniffer69 Yeah, Greed... sorry, Creed is surely suffering from severe hubris. 🤒😆
no need, aventus is overpriced....
I am really looking forward to more content like this! This feels like real value for the members
Looking forward to this series! Richard is such a genuine and gracious guy.
Really enjoyed this and excited for more of these types of videos. I’d love to see him not only compare clones to OGs but maybe even rate fragrance lines and see what are his faves.
This was such a great video. Absolutely great to hear from a perfumers perspective. This would be an awesome series. Thanks for the content, hard work, effort and professionalism to your craft. Much appreciated.
LOVE THIS CONTENT! The technical analyses are fascinating. Listening him talking about ingredients and sourcing is uber-interesting.
That was very interesting! I love having the point of view of an experienced and reputable perfumer, comparing his point of view with an amateur enthusiast. This should really become a series because the Internet needs more interactions between the manufacturers & "specialists" with the consumers! Thank you for doing that 👌🙏
Loved the conversation between two true gents!
Great video! Really informative, looking forward to the next ones.
So nice to hear actual insight from someone with the knowledge he has. For him to explain WHY Aventus smells and performs different (removal/regulation of Lyral and Birch etc) rather than just saying “it doesn’t last as long” was great.
Also, it would be interesting to know the rough actual cost of the formula per bottle of something like Aventus. I know he says it’s a ‘very expensive formula’, but how many dollars does that actually translate to per bottle? $2? $5? $10+?
I know he’s working in the industry so he won’t want to say anything that may hurt business, but id love to hear some proper behind the scenes stuff that nobody else talks about…
Fragrances have a huge profit margin, its not very expensive to make.
You actually can't calculate it solely on the costs of the raw materials alone. You also have, sourcing, marketing, distribution costs, certificates, labs. The formulation itself will costs quite some money as the perfumer wants a cut for his work too. So, even if you know about material costs, you also have to ask for everything else too to get the full picture. But none of the less, margins are still extremely high when you see for how much this stuff gets sold. Margins are in the percentage range of a few thousands.
Ill say $50 MAX. $100 if we include machinery
Awesome interview. Looking forward to this series
I really appreciate this format!
Please remind Richard to restock his website before appearing on your channel. We are going to buy it all when it's available
Right, I wanna buy the sample pack
Yeah big mistake, should've thought of that lol
lol facts!!!
Great knowledge, I hope you make a series together with Richard. I've already seen videos on other fragrance channels where perfumers were invited but there is no comparison in knowledge which Richard present here. They weren't so detailed as him
Magnifique
What a fantastic video, Ash! I could listen to you and Mr. Herpin discuss fragrances all day. Would love to hear him discuss his recent creations for Michael Malul, including Edgewater. Very educational! 🤘
that dude is a cross mix-up of brad pitt and colin farrel
Great great content ! Very interesting to hear a master perfumers take on these scents ! I will definitely have to check out Salt N Pepper... Thanks Richard and Ashton for taking the time out of your lives to connect with the senses ~~ Perfumery can be such a magical experience that we can all connect threw.....
Loved this. Looking forward to the next one
This is such an interesting and informative video I really enjoyed watching it thank you Ash
This was awesome. Thanks for the work, Ash!
Awesome content! Thanks for the hard work on putting out something different.
This was awesome!!! Thanks! Keep 'em comming! -I'd love to hear both of your thoughts on the highest quality clones.
Man such a solid video, loved the insight from Richard and the back & forth in opinions. Please do more of these! Looking to buy that little discovery set from Precious Liquids as well. Cheers!
Hey Ash, really love this video. Give us more of this. You have ATH doing similar things, but I really find that this has his own value to add. It's really crazy to see how he gets all the materials out of it and can analyse the composition! Especially since Richard is the creator of some of the most amazing fragrances ever.
Great video, exactly what I wanted from this series !
Amazing video, we'd love to see more. Props to the esteemed dude for respecting the cheapie fairly.
Excited to see more from Richard!!
Awesome vid Ash!! Thanks for the different perspective!
Literally everyone loved this video. Cant thank you enough ashton🙏
This was extremely informative finally we hear from a professional. Amazing job gents scent you’re doing a great job
This was great. Hope to see more of these conversations.
This is awesome Ashton! Many thanks to Richard for coming on and giving what is basically a "free" class. I hope we see others soon! Maybe some indie perfumers, and of course you gotta try to get the other well known perfumers on here. Learning a lot, I love it! Thank you both!
T T T T Tobacco Royal!!!! Thanks guys! Awesome video. Precious Liquid awesome fragrances. Can’t wait for the next vid!
Amazing video. Hope to see more of this type of content
This a wonderful video Ash, a breath of fresh air
Great video! Would love to see another!!
Very informative video, I enjoyed it a lot!
I loooooved this video man thank u
Really enjoyed this video, hope to see more of him. Personally I don’t like wearing either fragrance but a few weeks ago I sprayed Aventus on one hand and Club de nuit on the other and then asked my mom to pick which one was better. Her initial reaction was something like is this a trick they smell the same, then once I told her one was a clone of the other and to pick which one she liked more she ended up picking Club de nuit.
Great guest!
Next time pls ask him about smth with grapefruit, like Light Blue Forever. Interesting where grapefruit stands in the citrus range.
Layton vs Detour noir would be interesting too.
Also in general, it would be interesting to hear Richards opinion whether Tygar, Afternoon Swim, Elysium are worth their price and why.
Really enjoyed this conversation!
This was awesome! I loved it when Richard said he liked the price of CDNIM because of the price of Ambroxan, but they compromised on everything else 😂
I can't wait to watch more! It's great to hear Richard's perfumer perspective vs Ashton's.
Great videos, guys! Keep them coming!
Ya, I was quite surprised and ecstatic when Richard praised CDNIM’s quality. Makes you think about how much of a cash grab Creed really is, for trying to push those 500$ prices.
@@Q_N- Well he didn’t really ‘praise its quality’, he just commended them for using the right dose of Ambroxan but said that they cheaped out on the rest of the ingredients… 😂
@@SirSillageSniffington lol with all the hate that it gets, I’d consider those words a praise 🤣 On a real note though, he is showing a relatively positive view on it. Which made me think the iterations such as CDNIM Limited, are definitely in the realms of premium grade for low prices. That’s sort of my own view on this whole interaction.
@@SirSillageSniffingtonI agree with you. That was the point of my comment.
@@Q_N-It is true that he called it the Rock n' Roll Aventus. He could have just called it trash if he wanted, but he didn't. So, that a compliment in itself I suppose 😅
Possibly yhe best conversation ever had comparing these two
Great episode! Make this a monthly thing!
Neat video idea. I liked this 👏
That’s the guy behind Oud Wood and the lovely Indonisian Oud (RIP) by Zegna.
40 min interview is not enough we ask for 40 days 😜
What a joy to listen to perfumers insights!
Awesome interview I need another videos to breakdown Oud Wood and Noir Extreme edp
Great video thanks Ashton
Great video learnt so much from Richard 🇬🇧🏴
Great Video!!!! I definitely would like to see them talk about Oud Wood and the clones because i'm curious why Oud Wood itself and the clones dont project. Carved Oud last ok but still super close to the skin.
LOVE THIS. Keep it up.
i saw this video yesterday at home, i was like meh but now im listening to it while im at work i really enjoyed it and it gave me a plus, thank you guys
Hey Ash, this is such an amazing and informative video. I didn’t know that they’ve found a method to extract pineapple oil, that’s nuts! And I’m quite surprised how costly pink pepper oil is, can’t imagine what it’s like to work with such an ingredient when messing up. I also agree with Mr Herpin’s opinion on Americans not really liking citrus, Light Blue Forever is a perfect example. As for the Sauvage part, I believe it’s not just Sauvage that’s taking over the scene, Dior fragrances are topping a lot of lists. The ending is an eye opener, the fact that CDNIM can nearly stand toe to toe against Aventus from a perfumer’s perspective, is impressive. For Mr Herpin to give CDNIM such high praise in the quality department is extraordinary in its own right. Definitely need more content like this if you ever get time for it, thanks Ash!!!
That's not nuts it's pineapple 😂😂😂😂😂
@@dnatural1iam23 lol, as a father of 2, I appreciate the dad joke 👍
@@Q_N- 🤣🤣🤣😜
Great stuff guys!
When Richard Herpin brought up the meal price tag I couldn't agree more... When it comes to food.
Wow, appreciate taking the time to break down the elements. Explaining what we smelling and experiencing. Personally i find club CDNIM too harsh. Preferring mont blanc explorer ofer all the clones. Totally agree aventus is more classier. Like the direction we are going. Really interested in la nuit de l'homme bleu electrique vs the original. Why do so many people like the original eventhough it's not that strong. And why do parfums de marly fragrances seem to perform longer. Is it the build structure?
Lovely video!!
Great video! Edgewater is great, and I look forward to buying Precious Liquid fragrance samples.
I think I really liked edgewater. Was that the melon one? I got a strong melon vibe from it, or westloop I can't remember
I didn’t know who the perfumer was until you mentioned oud wood , what a fragrance that is👏
Nice and informative and no one sprayed into the air and waved their hands to their faces.😂
Yes, more of this…thank you!
Even the weirdest smell can become comforting over time. Can't argue with the performance of 2015 CDNI. Reach out and touch noses at the expense of your own. 😆 Awesome how Rich nailed the TF without a brief. Props right there. 🤝
I’d like more videos about the different major and minor fragrance families and different note breakdowns
It would be great to see Richard break down BR540 and its clones because that is a synthetic fragrance and seems easier to copy
Big Up Ash 🔥🔥
Hei ash, thanks for the analysies of both of you, i wanted to ask you if you compared the cdnim edt or the edp? Thanks for the answer
Great Video please more breakdown Videos!!! Xerjoff italica or kilian or MFK
More videos like this please. Can you do Hacivat, Dreamer, or a comparison like this with more originals & clones (baccarat !)
Wow thats great. Very well done.
In Australia it's over $400 at discounters. Ckub de nuit is $60 so you can spray as often as you like.
I've often paid $280 but I've gotta call it at $300.
Please do the Oud Wood comparison with him 🙏
That would be so cool!
This is pretty cool!
Timestamps would be so useful in these sorts of videos
This was amazing! I would love to see a comparison between Luna Rossa Carbon and Sauvage EDP from a perfumer’s perspective since both have a similar DNA
It's official, CDNI is "safe" Richard sprayed it on skin. 😂
This was awesome.
Fahrenheit, Acqua di Gio, Eternity, Obsession, Escape, Cool Waters, Drakkar Noir!
Most Filipinos still love the classics! Perform best in our climate (Sunny and Rainy). Please do reviews and suggest cheaper clones.
So, I bought the Precious Liquid Customizable Discovery Limited Collection with these fragrances:
Salt&Pepper
Aqua Oud
Amber Suede
Sangria Oak
I am in love 😍 with every one of them because whether it's an aquatic or amber fragrance, it smells of higg quality. I just want to bathe in them.
Also, shipping was super fast. It took less than 48 hours to receive it from Boca Raton, Florida to where I live in North Carolina 👍
I don't own any dupes but I got Teriaq from Lattafa recently and have been reaching for it and happily over spraying. I would love to have that North Stag IV. 🤞
I apply The CLUB 10 SPRAYS A HOUR B4 I HIT THE BAR...DRY DOWN TO LIVE FOR.😅
Great content. More of this. Less clones. In depth on houses, information, history.
Fwiw, I own both. I prefer Aventus on my skin of course. But the key to CDNIM is it is a SILLAGE beast, and the Lemon Pledge harshness just isn't there in the air, especially in the drydown. That is why it gets so many more compliments than Aventus, at least for me.
very cool and informative
Very interesting!
@GentsScents can you compare the aventus version from GenericPerfums pre-blended spray a note about them they sell by grades A+ means more higher quality & essential oils/absolutes are used. A++ means premium level with more than 2 higher quality oils used
I'd love to see him break down Dior Sauvage Elixir, cause it smells like a scent from the future and don't ask me why that's just my opinion.
Very informative video. Would love to see more videos in this format. I’ve always been put off by CDNIM and this gives me more clarity as to why.
He is the guy behind Oud Wood, very humble and down to earth.
I think Richard is the CDNI of Brad Pitt
This was a great video! Awesome to hear Richard's perspective on the artistry of Aventus and the compromises of CDNIM. Very refreshing to hear a pro admit that there is a time and place for both fragrnaces and that he would actually wear both depending on what he wanted out of his fragramce that day.
Wow, just next lvl content
7:41 Comparison conversation begins
So this is the cdnim edt obviously. Should've compared the Creed to the Limited edition imo : "best for best" !!
Yes! THANK YOU! 🙏 at least one other person is commenting on this. I thought I would be the only one who is bothered by this nonsense of picking the EDT version. Poor perfumer
Ask him why they destroyed Oud Wood?!! One of my favorites
Would be great to compare TL to all its clones
Was the CDNIM edt, edp or parfume?
I think that's Ashton with his hair fluffed out and big glasses. 😂
This is a nice video, BUT... There is still much to be asked. He said Bergamos was expensive, but he also said Ambroxan was expensive. And that CDNIM had to put that 10% of "expensive" ambroxan in order to replicate that Aventus note. But as we all know, CDNIM is cheap. So where is the line here? What is actually expensive, and how much is the profit margin what we are talking about. For example (hypothetically): sinthetic bercamont is 10c per gram, but real bergamont is 1$ per gram, so it's technically 10 times more expensive. So in the formula, you put 2g of bergamont, which is $2, and now the fragrance is considered "expensive"? Could we even say that this practice of "expensive" oils is like the practice of how fragrances can say they contain real Oud when in reality they have like 0.0000001% real Oud inside but since it's technically there the bottom can say: "Contains real Oud". You know what I mean?
Very interesting ✌️