Just had mine delivered yesterday. Absolutely great for my non-gaming applications. Great build and setup from SimplyNUC. Customer support is beyond awesome. Thank you SimplyNUC and congratulations on providing the bleeding edge for us "small format" types.
A question about the dual Thunderbolt ports: Given that each of them has a PCIe x4 lanes, is there a potential to use both of them with external-GPU box (to reduce the bottleneck of a single x4 PCIe hampers all similar builds)? Of course a corresponding E-GPU box would be needed, which probably isn't on the market yet, but my question is if it's even possible in theory - similar to SLI or Cross-fire builds?
Interesting. I just got one used last week and trying to find out more about the CMOS battery replacement. The current one seems to be a replacement (yellow) and it's a KTS CR2032, which is the same as the one being sold by Rome Tech as specific to this NUC. However in your prototype the CMOS is a CR2016.
Well I think its safe to say that if realistically static discharge was such a great problem they would include a wriststrap with every unit. In any "case" id say putting atleast a warning label inside the case would be smarter than doing nothing about it.
I want to turn my hades into NAS. For that I want to develop external PSB with mSata SSD mounts. Is there a header where I could connect to plug in external at least 4 SATA drives?
Looks like a very impressive piece of kit, looking forward to seeing some benchmarks. As an aisle a couple of questions you might be able to help with as I'm tempted to risk making a custom case for one depending on how noisy it is. First does it have an internal 19v connector like earlier nucs? As using a hdplex 160w ac-dc supply for a brick less system. Secondly any idea what the spacing for the headsink bolts are? As the possibility to modify a desk top cooler for it or even a passive cooler (more likely for the 65w system) is tempting as it would be easier to make a compact and silent system cooling the single Apu than separate gpu/cpu
Due to having two larger blowers than the Skull Canyon has, it seems quite a bit quieter than the Skull Canyon. The physically larger blowers allow for more airflow at a lower RPM. Also the surface area of the heat sink is almost the entire width of the unit, which reduces static pressure (resistance the blowers "feel") which also helps with noise. To answer your questions though: 1. No, there is no internal 19v power connector and the motherboard is not expected to be remounted (there are no plans for a motherboard version) 2. Due to the 9 External and 3 Internal USB Ports and the amount of power draw that could be loaded on them, the NUC comes with a 230w power adapter with a special 3-pin power connector similar to high wattage laptops. With just a Kb/M setup running an AAA game, I saw around 130w peak on the 100w version. Managing power loads, you should be able to use a 160w supply on the 65w version. 3. I would be leary of any benchmarks made before the drivers are complete. Anyone testing benchmarks right now would be violating Intel's request and I can say that the current video drivers seem to be early version to make it work and not really get performance yet. It currently performs around the same as a nVidia GF1060 card. Under an AAA game I am getting 100-120 fps at full rendering. Under an AAA planned game for March, the built-in benchmark gave it a "Great" rating for the Ultra setting (the highest the game goes).
Charles Abdouch thanks for the reply, some really useful info there. Pity about the lack of internal power connector as I'm not brave enough to solder directly to such an expensive board. Having a power brick isn't a deal breaker but definitely prefer a neater solution. Aye pity that Intel makes such versatile chips like these and skull canyon but doesn't release them in a more open format for folks to tinker with, though I can understand the market would be small. Thanks again though.
Howdy Sumit. I installed a High-Def version of World of Tanks and ran it with every single graphics setting at maximum and got 105-125fps with around 121w of MAX TPD and never had the processor throttle. In fact, the blowers would spin up a bit and then spin down during gameplay. The blowers never stayed at a high speed where I could hear them. I was shooting a video of the gameplay in a recording studio and trying to capture the blower noise, but it would spin down during gameplay.
Do you know if the two Thunderbolt 3 ports are independent? Meaning do you get 40 X 2 Performance or do they share the bus and you are getting more of a 'loopthru' as it only does 40 total for the speed. Thanks for the overview of the product.
THANK YOU and WOOHOO it is now the most useful small form factor of the bunch. I do have an issue with the AMD implementation but that is because vMix has had issues with the GPU and the nVidia GPU works better with vMix. Good News is that you could use a Thunderbolt GPU but it will only be X4. Now my brain is going into overdrive of how to implement the new NUC. Thanks again.
Howdy Rich, I am using an External Akitio NODE with a GeForce GTX Extreme 1060 (Aorus card) from the Thunderbolt 3 port on my Skull Canyon. The performance numbers we're getting with the setup makes us wonder if the x16 bus is saturated on a normal desktop as we're getting similar benchmarks (10% less). I heard from one person that the GPU is only x8 although the standard is an x16 card. If the bus isn't saturated, or just some burst times when the x8 is fully saturated, then the x4 limit might not be noticed as much.
That may have been confusing to read. The takeaway is that the benchmarks are fairly close to the published specs even though we're using a PCIe x4 Thunderbolt 3 link. This makes us think that the bus isn't saturated often enough. I am getting 120-150fps at full rendering on a AAA game with it.
Thanks for the 1060 info and I had a feelimg I could make that work. If vMix or should I say AMD played well with vMix then there is no need for extra hardware. I could get the external box for capture and use the other T3 port for mass storage
Simply NUC via Thunderbolt 3 se puede conectar un egpu gtx 1080ti sin perdida de rendimiento de la egpu gtx 1080ti =? Por las limitaciones del Thunderbolt 3, q segun tengo entendido serian 4 lineas pcie en th3 contra las 16 lineas pcie q se usan en desktop. Desde ya gracias.
What is the SATA power connector for? (Below the usb 3.0/2.0 pin connectors)? On the bottom left. Is there a SATA connector for data? I’d like to squeeze in a SATA 2.5” SSD with the GORITE riser. Thanks
Perhaps an odd question, of the 2 mDP ports, which is electrically marked and 0 & 1, or 1 & 2? Also, separately, do you have a list of Intel tested and certified RAM modules for this new NUC?
From what I heard, Intel is not using CMTL to do certifications anymore. We certify DIMMs that we use such as Kingston, Kingston HyperX, and Team Group. As far as the order of Video connectors on the Hades Canyon from my testing of 6 monitors with cables shuffled around; 1= Thunderbolt closest to mDP, 2 = Thunderbolt closest to Power Jack, 3 = mDP closest to Thunderbolt, 4 = mDP closest to GbE, 5 = HDMI on front, and 6 = HDMI on back. My OCD would have organized them in order, but there may be a reason for this.
We are impressed internally with the benchmarks on this Hades Canyon prototype but are prohibited from revealing them. When we tested the Skull Canyon prototype, the production version of it had much better benchmarks. Currently the video drivers for the Hades-Canyon are kind of cludged together and we know we'll get better benchmarks once official drivers come out.
Hi. I am contemplating getting the Skull Canyon (Intel NUC Kit NUC6I7KYK1 (Intel Core i7-6770HQ)/ Kingston 8GB DDR4- 2133 SODIMM/Kingston 240GB SSD M.2/Win 10 Home at equivalent to USD 900) since it is easily available on my local PC store but I also monitor the web for new products (cameras, lenses, laptops, sports watches etc, not necessarily buying lol) regularly. i've visited your website and thinking of just preordering the Hades Canyon. Have you had experience shipping to the Philippines? thank you.
Charles Abdouch I think this is where people are getting confused on whether this has TB3 or not. In both videos you seem to be saying 'TB3 by USB C, supporting the 10gb speeds'. So with 4 lane individual, shouldn't this support the 40gb speed? Can't wait to replace my SC.
Howdy Brent, I may have gone through the numbers too quickly. I am trying to convey a lot of information in a short time so the videos don't drag on. The 2 USB 3.1 Gen 2 Type-C connectors on the back of the Hades Canyon are shared with DisplayPort and Thunderbolt 3. During USB 3.1 Gen 2 transactions, it can run up to 10Gb/s, during (2 lanes) DisplayPort 1.3 transactions, it can run up to 16.2Gb/s, and during Thunderbolt 3 transactions, it can run up to 40Gb/s When many people see this connector and automatically identify it as Thunderbolt 3, but the actual connector is a USB Type-C connector and became a standard pretty much starting with USB 3.1. In some cases, the connector can have DisplayPort links on it, and in a low percentage of the time, also have Thunderbolt 3. The USB 3.1 Gen 2 Type-C connector on the front of the Hades Canyon only has the USB 3.1 Gen 2 link and does not have video or PCIe. The Blue USB Type-A connector on the front supports a 4th USB 3.1 Gen 2 link.
I discovered that the DisplayPort signals on the Type-C connector are DP 1.2 compliant, not 1.3. The two mDP connectors are DP 1.3 though. And to clarify some confusion from other sites, the USB Type-C connector on the front panel is just a USB port, there is no Thunderbolt or DP signals on the front Type-C connector. I hear many people mistakenly call the USB Type-C connector a "Thunderbolt connector" This connector was selected by the USB Committee as their "Type-C" connector. In working with the DisplayPort committee, they came us with the ability to also carry DP on this same connector with the USB signals. Later the DisplayPort committee decided to offer an "Alternate-DP Mode" feature that *some* computers add to the USB Type-C connector. Afterwards, the Thunderbolt committee decided to select the USB Type-C connector as their standard for carrying Thunderbolt 3 signals. Perhaps 100% of all USB Type-C connectors have USB on them. But a smaller percentage also include Alt-DP signals and even less than this is if they should carry a Thunderbolt 3, perhaps less than 10%. Yet I hear many people call this the Thunderbolt 3 connector. It is technically called the USB Type-C connector.
I recommend adding the Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit Workstation upgrade. For $125 through the MS store, it's much cheaper than a 5-License minimum for Server 2012.
Do you mean Memory Density? Do you have a link to an article that discussed a "bug" I can review to give you specific details? I have not looked at the Memory Controller registers to see if this is true, but I believe there is a limitation of 16GB per DIMM socket and only 2 DIMM sockets are supported on the NUCs, so that limits us to 32GB of memory.
Howdy Marko. This issue only affects the NUC6CAY products as this is a DRAM Arraignment issue found on DDR3 DRAM (256Gbx4 vs 128Gbx8 kind of thing). The smallest density of DDR4 is 4GB and so there will not be any 1GB or 2GB DIMMs. I don't believe there are any such issues with the DDR4 DIMMs
From what we can tell it is quite a bit more quiet since it has dual fans that are larger and spin slower. At normal operation you can barely tell it's on. You will hear it when it is running a demanding application but it is not distracting at all.
Simply NUC thats make me feel better. So many articles say, prev intel nuc kaby lake so noisy when its “normal operation”. But new hades canyon big fan lower noise, count me in :)
I used to have the NUC Canyon (until it got stolen :/) And while I obviously can't speak for everybody mine was not loud at all. At normal usage you could barely hear it's working given you're in a quiet room (and certainly not in a shared office). Under load you could hear it of course but far from distracting. I didn't get the chance to use it for gaming, but used it for work - I often had to run long compilation or database migration tasks which generally stress all components (except the GPU). If Hades is quieter (which it should be given the dual and larger fans) it shouldn't be a problem (at least until fans wear out in couple of years I guess).
Stolen!!! huh that's my big nightmare. Can't imagine losing my killer mini pc :( ...however big thanks for sharing your experience! hope you are dealing well with that stolen part cheers!
Yes it was a nightmare indeed :/ I even saw the NUC (could bet it was mine) on one of the online flea-markets and some of the components ... and saw them gone before my eyes ... really depressing. I guess getting robbed is inherent risk with all mobile devices. Don't leave your backpack out of your sight! And the way to deal with it is to get the new one 8)
I don't like the skull at all, I hate it ,even you can turn it off, but you know it still there,I don't want to see it at all,imagine that you put a skull into your house , not good at all and not kool ethier , can intel have other shapes?
Shuqi - you can run this unit with the offending cover removed. I not recommending this, but it is an option. I recommend that you contact SimplyNUC to discover if they know of an aftermarket replacement without the skull but something nice that you can also use the cool LEDs for. Hey, SimpyNUC, I'm interested in something different too. Not sure how much of a branding deal it is, but there is a market.
Just had mine delivered yesterday. Absolutely great for my non-gaming applications. Great build and setup from SimplyNUC. Customer support is beyond awesome. Thank you SimplyNUC and congratulations on providing the bleeding edge for us "small format" types.
Mike. Glad you like it and were happy with our service and support. As always, please contact us if you happen to have any issues down the road.
so much detailed review wow
A question about the dual Thunderbolt ports:
Given that each of them has a PCIe x4 lanes, is there a potential to use both of them with external-GPU box (to reduce the bottleneck of a single x4 PCIe hampers all similar builds)?
Of course a corresponding E-GPU box would be needed, which probably isn't on the market yet, but my question is if it's even possible in theory - similar to SLI or Cross-fire builds?
Mac mimi user is here. Looks like my next machine.
Well, I guess I now know where my next bonus check is going...
Interesting. I just got one used last week and trying to find out more about the CMOS battery replacement. The current one seems to be a replacement (yellow) and it's a KTS CR2032, which is the same as the one being sold by Rome Tech as specific to this NUC. However in your prototype the CMOS is a CR2016.
Well I think its safe to say that if realistically static discharge was such a great problem they would include a wriststrap with every unit.
In any "case" id say putting atleast a warning label inside the case would be smarter than doing nothing about it.
I want to turn my hades into NAS. For that I want to develop external PSB with mSata SSD mounts. Is there a header where I could connect to plug in external at least 4 SATA drives?
Looks like a very impressive piece of kit, looking forward to seeing some benchmarks.
As an aisle a couple of questions you might be able to help with as I'm tempted to risk making a custom case for one depending on how noisy it is.
First does it have an internal 19v connector like earlier nucs? As using a hdplex 160w ac-dc supply for a brick less system.
Secondly any idea what the spacing for the headsink bolts are? As the possibility to modify a desk top cooler for it or even a passive cooler (more likely for the 65w system) is tempting as it would be easier to make a compact and silent system cooling the single Apu than separate gpu/cpu
Due to having two larger blowers than the Skull Canyon has, it seems quite a bit quieter than the Skull Canyon. The physically larger blowers allow for more airflow at a lower RPM. Also the surface area of the heat sink is almost the entire width of the unit, which reduces static pressure (resistance the blowers "feel") which also helps with noise.
To answer your questions though:
1. No, there is no internal 19v power connector and the motherboard is not expected to be remounted (there are no plans for a motherboard version)
2. Due to the 9 External and 3 Internal USB Ports and the amount of power draw that could be loaded on them, the NUC comes with a 230w power adapter with a special 3-pin power connector similar to high wattage laptops. With just a Kb/M setup running an AAA game, I saw around 130w peak on the 100w version. Managing power loads, you should be able to use a 160w supply on the 65w version.
3. I would be leary of any benchmarks made before the drivers are complete. Anyone testing benchmarks right now would be violating Intel's request and I can say that the current video drivers seem to be early version to make it work and not really get performance yet. It currently performs around the same as a nVidia GF1060 card. Under an AAA game I am getting 100-120 fps at full rendering. Under an AAA planned game for March, the built-in benchmark gave it a "Great" rating for the Ultra setting (the highest the game goes).
Charles Abdouch thanks for the reply, some really useful info there. Pity about the lack of internal power connector as I'm not brave enough to solder directly to such an expensive board. Having a power brick isn't a deal breaker but definitely prefer a neater solution.
Aye pity that Intel makes such versatile chips like these and skull canyon but doesn't release them in a more open format for folks to tinker with, though I can understand the market would be small.
Thanks again though.
So have you found out what are those two connectors at the bottom left corner as shown in the video?
Love NUC.....wish we could get more Thunderbolt 3 ports, yes more and also long overdue we need 10 GBe ports
this is awsm . would like to know abt temps while gaming and thermal throttle?
Howdy Sumit. I installed a High-Def version of World of Tanks and ran it with every single graphics setting at maximum and got 105-125fps with around 121w of MAX TPD and never had the processor throttle. In fact, the blowers would spin up a bit and then spin down during gameplay. The blowers never stayed at a high speed where I could hear them. I was shooting a video of the gameplay in a recording studio and trying to capture the blower noise, but it would spin down during gameplay.
Do you know if the two Thunderbolt 3 ports are independent? Meaning do you get 40 X 2 Performance or do they share the bus and you are getting more of a 'loopthru' as it only does 40 total for the speed. Thanks for the overview of the product.
Howdy Rich. The 2 Thunderbolt 3 ports are independent and can provide up to 40Gb/s at the same time.
THANK YOU and WOOHOO it is now the most useful small form factor of the bunch. I do have an issue with the AMD implementation but that is because vMix has had issues with the GPU and the nVidia GPU works better with vMix. Good News is that you could use a Thunderbolt GPU but it will only be X4. Now my brain is going into overdrive of how to implement the new NUC. Thanks again.
Howdy Rich, I am using an External Akitio NODE with a GeForce GTX Extreme 1060 (Aorus card) from the Thunderbolt 3 port on my Skull Canyon. The performance numbers we're getting with the setup makes us wonder if the x16 bus is saturated on a normal desktop as we're getting similar benchmarks (10% less). I heard from one person that the GPU is only x8 although the standard is an x16 card. If the bus isn't saturated, or just some burst times when the x8 is fully saturated, then the x4 limit might not be noticed as much.
That may have been confusing to read. The takeaway is that the benchmarks are fairly close to the published specs even though we're using a PCIe x4 Thunderbolt 3 link. This makes us think that the bus isn't saturated often enough. I am getting 120-150fps at full rendering on a AAA game with it.
Thanks for the 1060 info and I had a feelimg I could make that work. If vMix or should I say AMD played well with vMix then there is no need for extra hardware. I could get the external box for capture and use the other T3 port for mass storage
I’m about to preorder the Intel NUC Hades from your website...I’m just wondering which 256GB M.2 NVME drive you’ll be using for the assembled system?
We would use a Samsung Evo 960. Thanks for the order!
Simply NUC y si quisiera ensamblar el nuc con un disco de 512GB m.2 nvme q disco usan uds? También un Samsung evo 960 o un Samsung 960 pro? Gracias
For 512GB we would use a Samsung 960 Pro. www.simplynuc.com/hades-canyon/
Simply NUC via Thunderbolt 3 se puede conectar un egpu gtx 1080ti sin perdida de rendimiento de la egpu gtx 1080ti =? Por las limitaciones del Thunderbolt 3, q segun tengo entendido serian 4 lineas pcie en th3 contra las 16 lineas pcie q se usan en desktop. Desde ya gracias.
960 Pro por 512GB
What is the SATA power connector for? (Below the usb 3.0/2.0 pin connectors)? On the bottom left. Is there a SATA connector for data? I’d like to squeeze in a SATA 2.5” SSD with the GORITE riser. Thanks
Can LG 5K display power up it via thunderbolt port, without its own power adapter?
i want to buy now🤩
You can pre-order now to get one of the first production units off the line. www.simplynuc.com/hades-canyon/
Simply NUC thanks
Simply NUC do you think i should wait due to bugs or not
We provide technical support options if you are worried about early bugs. I would go with the 1 year warranty and support option.
Does it support 5K resolution via thunderbolt port? Like LG 5k display sold on apple website.
It does.
Perhaps an odd question, of the 2 mDP ports, which is electrically marked and 0 & 1, or 1 & 2? Also, separately, do you have a list of Intel tested and certified RAM modules for this new NUC?
From what I heard, Intel is not using CMTL to do certifications anymore. We certify DIMMs that we use such as Kingston, Kingston HyperX, and Team Group.
As far as the order of Video connectors on the Hades Canyon from my testing of 6 monitors with cables shuffled around; 1= Thunderbolt closest to mDP, 2 = Thunderbolt closest to Power Jack, 3 = mDP closest to Thunderbolt, 4 = mDP closest to GbE, 5 = HDMI on front, and 6 = HDMI on back. My OCD would have organized them in order, but there may be a reason for this.
The performance for the size is hard to believe
waiting for benchmarks before making my decision...
Understood. We promised we wouldn't benchmark the prototype but as soon as we have a production unit in house we will post some benchmarks.
We are impressed internally with the benchmarks on this Hades Canyon prototype but are prohibited from revealing them. When we tested the Skull Canyon prototype, the production version of it had much better benchmarks. Currently the video drivers for the Hades-Canyon are kind of cludged together and we know we'll get better benchmarks once official drivers come out.
How do I use the 3 connectors on the inside?
Hi. I am contemplating getting the Skull Canyon (Intel NUC Kit NUC6I7KYK1 (Intel Core i7-6770HQ)/
Kingston 8GB DDR4- 2133 SODIMM/Kingston 240GB SSD M.2/Win 10 Home at equivalent to USD 900) since it is easily available on my local PC store but I also monitor the web for new products (cameras, lenses, laptops, sports watches etc, not necessarily buying lol) regularly. i've visited your website and thinking of just preordering the Hades Canyon. Have you had experience shipping to the Philippines? thank you.
Have you considered offering the Samsung PM981 SSDs with your Hades Canyon NUC to offer a lower cost build to order spec for customers?
Not familiar with that part number. Is it an M.2 form factor and do you have a link to where it is available?
no link in the description
Just preordered this at simplynuc.com ! Do you know how many PCIE lanes each Thunderbolt 3 port has? x2 or x4?
Howdy Raj,
Both Thunderbolt 3 ports are x4 and use different PCIe lanes so both can be active at the same time.
Charles Abdouch I think this is where people are getting confused on whether this has TB3 or not. In both videos you seem to be saying 'TB3 by USB C, supporting the 10gb speeds'. So with 4 lane individual, shouldn't this support the 40gb speed? Can't wait to replace my SC.
Howdy Brent, I may have gone through the numbers too quickly. I am trying to convey a lot of information in a short time so the videos don't drag on.
The 2 USB 3.1 Gen 2 Type-C connectors on the back of the Hades Canyon are shared with DisplayPort and Thunderbolt 3. During USB 3.1 Gen 2 transactions, it can run up to 10Gb/s, during (2 lanes) DisplayPort 1.3 transactions, it can run up to 16.2Gb/s, and during Thunderbolt 3 transactions, it can run up to 40Gb/s
When many people see this connector and automatically identify it as Thunderbolt 3, but the actual connector is a USB Type-C connector and became a standard pretty much starting with USB 3.1. In some cases, the connector can have DisplayPort links on it, and in a low percentage of the time, also have Thunderbolt 3.
The USB 3.1 Gen 2 Type-C connector on the front of the Hades Canyon only has the USB 3.1 Gen 2 link and does not have video or PCIe.
The Blue USB Type-A connector on the front supports a 4th USB 3.1 Gen 2 link.
CPU total lanes are 16, 8 to the vega GPU and 8 to "other use"
I discovered that the DisplayPort signals on the Type-C connector are DP 1.2 compliant, not 1.3. The two mDP connectors are DP 1.3 though.
And to clarify some confusion from other sites, the USB Type-C connector on the front panel is just a USB port, there is no Thunderbolt or DP signals on the front Type-C connector. I hear many people mistakenly call the USB Type-C connector a "Thunderbolt connector"
This connector was selected by the USB Committee as their "Type-C" connector. In working with the DisplayPort committee, they came us with the ability to also carry DP on this same connector with the USB signals. Later the DisplayPort committee decided to offer an "Alternate-DP Mode" feature that *some* computers add to the USB Type-C connector.
Afterwards, the Thunderbolt committee decided to select the USB Type-C connector as their standard for carrying Thunderbolt 3 signals. Perhaps 100% of all USB Type-C connectors have USB on them. But a smaller percentage also include Alt-DP signals and even less than this is if they should carry a Thunderbolt 3, perhaps less than 10%. Yet I hear many people call this the Thunderbolt 3 connector. It is technically called the USB Type-C connector.
can you place 2 ssd's in there 22x80 ? in that case one would be above the wifi module
Correct.
whats faster and more powerful? Intel Haydes or HP Z3?
Does this also have the VESA mounting option like the Skull Canyon?
Yes. Same exact mount that comes with Skull Canyon.
sorry for the dumb question, but where is the processor and the amd gpu?
On the bottom side of the board attached to a vapor chamber heatsink.
what is the difference between the 65w and 100w model?
ROYAL TECH WORKS 100w better cpu gpu and overclockable
No link?!
So... SATA power, huh? can I put a 2.5'' SSD in this then? if not then what is the point of the SATA port?
Does this support two M.2 2280 SSDs with the wireless card present?
It does. There is a third slot for the wireless card.
Great, huge thanks! I have ordered a NUC from you via your UK store and have been investigating what SSDs to buy.
Thank you for your business!
Can I install win2012 server r2 on it and add a 8TB HDD ? I want to make it into a HTPC &NAS together , Thank you
I recommend adding the Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit Workstation upgrade. For $125 through the MS store, it's much cheaper than a 5-License minimum for Server 2012.
no dirty jokes lads
This nuc 8 can add 2.5in and U.2 ssd?
Two M.2 ssd - correct
Did they fix memory dencety bug?
Do you mean Memory Density?
Do you have a link to an article that discussed a "bug" I can review to give you specific details?
I have not looked at the Memory Controller registers to see if this is true, but I believe there is a limitation of 16GB per DIMM socket and only 2 DIMM sockets are supported on the NUCs, so that limits us to 32GB of memory.
Charles Abdouch www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000023485/mini-pcs/intel-nuc-kits.html
Howdy Marko. This issue only affects the NUC6CAY products as this is a DRAM Arraignment issue found on DDR3 DRAM (256Gbx4 vs 128Gbx8 kind of thing). The smallest density of DDR4 is 4GB and so there will not be any 1GB or 2GB DIMMs. I don't believe there are any such issues with the DDR4 DIMMs
Charles Abdouch ok, thanks
Wow practically ur getting the real thing first??
Simply NUC is an official Intel NUCs reseller from years
is this the new one?
Yan Campos yes
Well apple should take these NUCS make them a powerful gaming machine to compete and take over gaming
if apple is going to take these nucs, they will be overprized like sh** and still perform like the prototype, overprized because its named apple
no info in their website...:-) No info on GPU
The GPU is the AMD RX VEGA M chip. It is combined with the Intel core CPU. So it's an all in one modular chip.
Info up now. More to details to follow.
Clicking on the preorder links gives a "This page isn’t working, www.simplynuc.com redirected you too many times." error.
www.anandtech.com/show/12226/intels-hades-canyon-nucs-with-radeon-graphics-are-official-799999-shipping-in-spring-2018
Working on getting this fixed. Thanks for the heads up.
how about noise? noisy as skull canyon?
From what we can tell it is quite a bit more quiet since it has dual fans that are larger and spin slower. At normal operation you can barely tell it's on. You will hear it when it is running a demanding application but it is not distracting at all.
Simply NUC thats make me feel better. So many articles say, prev intel nuc kaby lake so noisy when its “normal operation”. But new hades canyon big fan lower noise, count me in :)
I used to have the NUC Canyon (until it got stolen :/)
And while I obviously can't speak for everybody mine was not loud at all. At normal usage you could barely hear it's working given you're in a quiet room (and certainly not in a shared office). Under load you could hear it of course but far from distracting.
I didn't get the chance to use it for gaming, but used it for work - I often had to run long compilation or database migration tasks which generally stress all components (except the GPU).
If Hades is quieter (which it should be given the dual and larger fans) it shouldn't be a problem (at least until fans wear out in couple of years I guess).
Stolen!!! huh that's my big nightmare. Can't imagine losing my killer mini pc :( ...however big thanks for sharing your experience! hope you are dealing well with that stolen part cheers!
Yes it was a nightmare indeed :/ I even saw the NUC (could bet it was mine) on one of the online flea-markets and some of the components ... and saw them gone before my eyes ... really depressing.
I guess getting robbed is inherent risk with all mobile devices. Don't leave your backpack out of your sight!
And the way to deal with it is to get the new one 8)
Dimms or SoDimms?
SoDimms are required. You can also have us build you a fully configured and tested system with this link www.simplynuc.com/8i7hvk-full/
I don't like the skull at all, I hate it ,even you can turn it off, but you know it still there,I don't want to see it at all,imagine that you put a skull into your house , not good at all and not kool ethier , can intel have other shapes?
Shuqi - you can run this unit with the offending cover removed. I not recommending this, but it is an option. I recommend that you contact SimplyNUC to discover if they know of an aftermarket replacement without the skull but something nice that you can also use the cool LEDs for.
Hey, SimpyNUC, I'm interested in something different too. Not sure how much of a branding deal it is, but there is a market.
Lets see.....................Buy something else instead of making silly comments? SMH
Can you use a external GPU?
Yes via the Thunderbolt 3 port
that's nice, but what can u use aside from the razer core and the aorus gaming box?
Felopateer G the Asus xg?
sure u can, but not worth for miners ...