"Fixed crash with too many people on a dispenser" | Aug 31st tf2 bug fixes
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- Опубликовано: 1 сен 2023
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![[TF2] Scout's Most UNDERUSED Primary](/img/1.gif)
100 player tf2 server: discord.gg/5RutXa3dGh (sorry we died for like a month because of ~ ~ network disruptions ~ ~ but we're back now :D)
i'll be on it for a bit as well :)
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Can you unban me from discord?
hey you should put some moderators in the server so people stop putting racist shit in the chat ty
@@titan_dust valve has A setting for censoring language client side in tf2.
It should be enabled by default.
Also there is no universe where this doesn't take constant attention from someone volunteering to mod the server.
If you simply temp-ban over specific words people will subvert them, requiring mod intervention more often.
I think the current systems distributes the trust and effort of banning people we don't want to play with well.
If someone is being unacceptable in the chat the immediate solution is voting to mute or kick them, if they keep coming back then you report in the discord so the mods can deal with it when they have time.
You can also personally mute people as you like.
One must imagine the engineer Happy
Bro, thats brilliant
A demo shoots a crit sticky or grenade at the dispenser
Imagine if hooking up too many people to an IV machine IRL caused the entire universe to fold in on itself.
oooh now let's try it!
I'm sure at some point there would be a person that fold you in on yourself for trying such a stupid idea. And rightly so.
Ow and 32 beams and non of them cross paths? I do not know much about ghost-busters but I''m sure that it would be something like a game crash. Just IRL.
Life is not a game, but if it was it would require something far more complex to crash
technically, it would be more like the person who made the iv's/was hooking people up to them had their own personal implosion, instead of the whole universe
The Matrix
100 people near a dispenser, that demoman laying one crit sticky:
Don't fret boyo! I'LL BE GENTLE
KAAABEEEW
Everyone basically crashes
That full awareness Pyro:
@@kR-qj7rwACCESSORIES
100 player actually getting official support. we are so back
lol
Tf2 battle royale when?
> not officially suppoted
> supporting it anyway
What a gigachad developer
@@O5MO poor lad probably figures this is a better way to spend their dev time than trying to untangle the spaghetti in some other places of the game. godspeed
Just one small update release - "we are so back"
I will miss the door launch on cp_steel, skydiving on people's heads as Heavy.
You can do that in TF2 Classic.
@@BComet ohh i see
I'm sad I never knew about this or saw it in game
@@herb_2 yea it looked cool.. why do they did that
I'm surprised there haven't been more bugs related to the player count being jacked up to 100, and code expecting the limit to go no higher than 32 failing to handle it.
I'm guessing that there's few places where it's hardcoded to be 32 players or similar, and instead references some sort of constant, and they basically just need to update that constant and most everything follows suit
The devs must have fixed those preemptively before releasing the update
Thanks valve! Now the game is finally playable
Not yet, not yet...
yeah except all the 70 million closet cheaters
@@orange8175 and bots
@@orange8175play on community servers
@@orange8175closet cheaters?
As a mere fact, the dispenser crash could also occur during payload gamemodes as well, since the payload entity acts as level 1 dispenser.
I thought it gave ammo too. Huh
@@techwizsmith7963it does, op is wrong about it being heal only.
@@withaustit does. That's why cart heavies are a thing
I like how unrestricted player max is technically unsupported, but they attribute the dispenser crash to it nonetheless when fixing it
Generally "unsupported" doesn't mean "won't provide support," instead meaning "we don't guarantee this will work properly."
Unsupported features in major programs will usually get bugfixes, but people using the features are doing so under the expectation that there *will* be bugs or other problems.
Yeah "unsupported" means the developers reserve the right to say "we ain't gonna fix that"
@@nexusxe that makes sense
One reason why we may have dodged the dispenser crash for 16 years is that most game modes either "require at least 1 person on the enemy team" (VS Saxton Hale) or "have a lower player cap" (MvM)
If we keep getting small updates and additions like this, I would be happy.
If we got small updates and additions like this for the last how many years? We would not be sitting here discussing it now would we. LAAAAATS DOOO IIIIT! NoT oNe oF yA iS goIn To survIve THis! One crossed wire one wayward pinch of.... Get the idea.
1:30 i could exercise you, this could be your phys-ed
Cheat on your man homie- AH tryna sneak through the door, man!
2:04 Valve removing my favorite tech bugs from the update.
Getting up there as heavy was hilarious while seeing people's reactions as you materialize over the edge. And I can't even ride the Seagulls anymore! WHY MAP CREATORS!? WHY!???
map creators, not valve
why must map creators do this to us
Seeing them ragdoll never gets old, after 16 years. The way scout just slumped caught me so off guard
When Gabe speaks normally, we know it’s a pretty smooth update.
shame about steel door fix, it was very fun :(
Babe wake up, localization files are updated
HONEY, WE NEED F{[}]}]NG SLEEP!!
I HAVEN’T SLEPT IN THIRTY TWO FE-(bleep)IN YEARS!!!
Another of the infinitely many bugs caused from small array sizes
I am a newbie programmer, but... why not use a list instead of an array? It's infinitely extendable, and given the small scale of TF2 it's unlikely to be that much slower than an array of the same size.
Or am I missing something, and lists are still just arrays internally?
@@tbotalpha8133 as far as i know, the expansion of lists can require a lot of work on the cpu if theyre large enough and allocating a fixed size of memory can be much more efficient on the cpu (arrays are also index based)
@@tbotalpha8133lookup time, cpu cache
I once played in a 1000x server and in 1000x one engi could build one teleporter entrance and exit, three sentries and three dispensers. You know where that went.
Gabe’s comment at the end was beyond insightful.
1:38 Tried to sneak through the door, man. Can't make it the shit's stuck !
you have no idea how nice it was to see steels main point get its own special spot.
It's really awesome for them to fix bugs relating to a command that they warned was unsupported. That shows there's some level of care still even though the game doesn't get big updates very often.
Saying it's unsupported is just CYA, in case something comes up that's really not worth the time
@@InsaneFirebat
Yo! If it isn't InsaneFirebat!
Thank you so much for your work at Airmech Strike! The game would have probably completely died years ago it wasn't for you.
@@davisdf3064 Thank you very much. The community is really what keeps it going.
I actually ran into this bug a few times during the DFS Finale event. We'd occasionally all be moved to the same team for certain maps to address how cluttered things got, and I crashed out a few times whenever people started building dispensers. Now I know why.
"man i cannot believe tf2 just crashed just for too many players getting too close to my dispenser"
I was honestly waiting for your orbit door video.
Hey shounic, big fan of your vids. Have you ever made a video about how random hat props appear in front of players yet? I would love to find out.
Agreed
aw I wish the cp_steel door launch stayed. was a really fun thing, you could replicate it consistently by crouching as you left the door as pyro, maybe other classes dont need to crouch but idk anymore
Interesting bug. Great find brother!
After 9 years in development, we are still in development.
Ah yes, the DOOR STUCK bug.
it's so cool to see such and old game given updates to a loved community.
I don't play TF2 yet but gotta hand it to valve for keeping with it.
they just can't handle the power of engineer gaming
the door stuck exploit is a reference to a video "DOOR STUCK! DOOR STUCK!"
I found the glitch on cp_steel with the door and I found it hilarious when the update released but now I'm kinda sad they fixed it, since it was really fun the catch unsuspecting players with it
honestly dont understand why they fix fun niche map "features" like this; goes against TF2's glitch ideology. makes me sad to see the cp_steel stickybomb grate glitch gone and now the door too
You forgot to mention the most important change: ALL HAIL CLUBSY
Clubsy the Seal also can get Pyroland assists.
Side effect: Price has increased exponentially for Clubsy the Seal.
The steel door trick still works, I did it for the first time after this update
Try walking into it with spy
the dispenser is just getting nervous from all of the people and exploding so hard the universe dies
2:02 THIS WAS AN ACTUALLY GOOD FEATURE THOUGH
I don't even like the gate without it. I mean sure it stops spam, but it looks ugly and out of place, and also lag makes it so you(or maybe just me) get stuck on it for a little bit, it's not long but it is annoying
I'd like to see a video on how you got it to run smoothly!
Imagine the joy of shooting a crocket into that dispenser area
That control point icon rearrangement is very nice actually, that map always confused me
Self-proclaimed free thinkers when they hear "sliiide to the left" 0:09
Team Fortress 2. You said it, Gabe.
Oh boy, demoma and engineer trolling potential has reached new height, sticky trap + friendly engy on enemy team putting it on top of it with the increased cap of players in costume server.
ur videos are never low quality or not worth watching, so when I say clickbait I purely mean what draws attention to your video and not something that's not actually in your video. I really appreciate then how your title and thumbnail clickbait was the first thing you looked at in the compilation of bugs here
Nice that the potted plant still left in the tf2 office at valve is still working on the game slightly.
I hate the new HUD rearrangement
Now the E sticks out in the way of my screen like an eye sore
I came up with a good idea. What if tf2 only had the qauke tf launch classes? I know he probably doesn't take requests, but it sounds cool
That one demoman that put 8 stickies and 2 crit stickies behind that one dispenser :0
I really like what they did to Steel :o
New KOTH idea:
Dispenser Denial
-Hold the Ultra Dispenser for as long as possible
So that door boost on CP_Steel was a bug, and not a feature? that's sad. its looks like it should be a helping hand to reach that wall
you can still get launched by the one way door but it is much less common now
I like how it says "into orbit"
Never known that steel mega jump lol. It seems fun
TEAM FORTRESS TWO
thank you
Step-dispenser, I'm stuck
>Put dispenser
>Nobody use
>Sad engineering noises
Team 4 tress too indeed
DOOR STUCK! DOOR STUCK!! PLEASE! I BEG YOU
Dodged it for 16 years...Phew a close one
shounic can you make an video explaining the bug where when you load an demo recorded before july 25th, they doesn't load
CP steel launcher was a bug? I had no idea!
best update ever forever
did an entire discord server hunt for glitches to find the dispenser one
Need a dispenser here
Never thought I would ever get to experience the Dispenser being the most broken thing in the game
Hello again
true...
Oh god they're going to win. Quick we need an Engineer. If we won't win noone will
i dont know how to feel about the cp_steel point icon change.
Yo got a problem my tf2 doesnt want to change graphic quality. I never changzd things in my tf2 exept in launch setings (-noborder -windowed)
The Mossbag of Team Fortress 2
Maybe they found out because of playtesters, maybe valve is cooking something for 100 players?
Huh. Several obscure bugs.
C++ array moment
If only the Rust language was around in the 90s and 2000s
"Door stuck exploit" is probably the funniest wording they could have picked for that fix.
What are those devs up to now?
Does this apply to The Amputator or the banners in some way?
I think the most interesting parts of this entire Update Cycle has been discovering that the last remaining TF2 Dev must *really like* CP_Steel.
Steel was community made, so whoever is updating cp_steel is not a Valve dev but the map creator that somehow wants to revisit their over a decade old project. Can't blame them though, I love Steel.
Its the map maker Fishbus who decided to update steel. Valve does include it in the game after he sends it to them, but why wouldnt they, since its just better.
clever server plug
missed opportunity for Door Stuck sfx
disappointed
32 servrr would only have been possible if the whole enimy team has been spies and be disguised next to the dispenser
Wow that's such a simple error too, it's just an index overflow. Lol.
"team fortress 2" -gabe newell
_DOOR STUCK!_
I imagine that the issue could only happen in cases where over 32 players were all actually getting something from the dispenser given the particles stop when your at full health or when there is no ammo in the dispenser.
It would likely require placing the dispenser with over 32 players already within the healing radius to ensure all the beams happen at once.
wtf, i thought the steel door launch thing was intentional.
It was also pretty fun to, you could get less mobile classes to fun spots...
Please tell me your 100 player server doesnt run exclusively Dustbowl
really? no mention of buggy day? smh!
33 Mann, 1 Dispenser.
Does.. did that healing beam crash also affect player destruction ? It could be a lot more plausible to have 33 players around you if you're a walking dispenser in a choke point.
It's safe to assume it would, although that happening would require more than 32 players playing player destruction beforehand (unlikely)
Watching this makes me wonder why I watch any other youtuber
*1:44** DOOR STUCK!! D O O R S T U C K!!!*
the steel gate change is a bit of a shame to me, skill based movement bug that looks cool to pull off now removed. :(
Someone recently found a way to do infinite damage with the mantreads, but couldn't kill an übered player. Yet an übered player dies instantly to a cliff despite it being possible to tank the damage with enough HP. And then there's the train that sonehow kills everything. What's going on here?
I’m starting to think ‘unsupported’ just means ‘there’s gonna be bugs since we don’t know what 100 players will do’ and not ‘we’re not gonna fix those bugs’. Maybe they should have just tagged it as a beta feature?
"We managed to dodge it for 6 years"
Or it never got reported
i wonder how many other things have a player limit that can easily be broken by the 100 players setting
Depends on the definition of "Easily". Shounic's 100 player server doesnt encounter crashes or bugs, at least not ones that are caused by the amount of players directly. There probably are some other ones that require situations that occur rarely. But if theyre rare, theyre not easily broken
@@O5MO i meant easily as how the Dispenser crash was able to perform
for example, how does the game handle extra particles like Jarate, Mad Milk, or Medic's Taunt? Does it also have a player limit?
@@SheepRunner for those examples they dont seem like they have a limit, you can have lots of people milked, jarateed, healed by amputator and buffed by banners at the same time. Its probably because they are assigned to a player or something instead of being put in some list.
@@O5MO huh, well my PC couldnt test itself to get the results, but im glad it was cleared out
also "you can have a lots of people milked"
And that's, my friends, why you use constants, instead of putting numbers into code.