How to open Laptop Battery without damaging the Case, 18650 Cells and the Battery Controller

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  • How to open Laptop Battery without damaging the Case, 18650 Cells and the Battery Controller. How to replace cells in Laptop's Battery Pack. How to disassemble laptop battery pack. How to replace 18650 cells in laptop battery pack. HP MU06 battery disassembly. How to open HP MU06.
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  • @anantamurthy5525
    @anantamurthy5525 2 года назад +16

    Thank you for this video short crisp to the point no fumbling no searching for something after opening no unnecessary conversations wasting viewers time very neat.Appreciate.

  • @mohanvvip
    @mohanvvip 4 года назад +12

    Learnt not only how to open, but disconnect the battery without the smart chip burning the fuse to self disable the entire circuit. And lots of other good information. Thank you. Great video.

  • @mohanvvip
    @mohanvvip 4 года назад +8

    One thing I learnt from opening a Dell X284G BATTERY. THE circuit board is on the connector side (inside where the battery plugs in to the laptop) and runs almost the entire length of the side, AVOID PUTTING YOUR SCREWDRIVER/BLADE ON THAT SIDE.

  • @rjluehrs
    @rjluehrs 3 года назад +23

    Outstanding -- best technical video, with fantastic tight editing! Starts with overview of the goal and necessary tools, then shows just what we need to see (none of the foolish hand-waving or "let me tell you about myself"), including the tricky parts of the process, with relevant links to what is outside the scope of this video. Real time-saver, which is hugely important to me. Thank heavens you aren't like those people who try to make technical videos, but spend more time on endless shaky silent video shots, or comedy, instead. I'm impressed, thank you!

  • @rick5078
    @rick5078 5 лет назад +21

    could you do a video on how to reset the chip? explaining which software and tools to use and how to use them.

    • @weeardguy
      @weeardguy 3 года назад +4

      Well... first prepare yourself to either spend a few hundred bucks on software and buy a relatively cheap adapter to communicate with the BMS-chip and a PC (and then the BMS-chip can be one of many types, or spend a few hundred bucks on the brand-specific adapter and use the software from (for example) Texas Instruments (ONLY in case of a BQxxZxx BMS chip, other types won't work).
      But the main thing: first check if the BMS hasn't blown the logic fuse. The BMS does not only feature a protective mode (critical undervolt) but also senses the voltage of every cell (with a 'cell' being a combination of cells in parallel). When one of those cells suddenly goes bad and starts to discharge itself while the others are still in good condition, the BMS can drive it's SAFE-pin high to just disconnect the cells from the outside world as any further discharge is a risk to the remaining cells and charging sure isn't any good.
      If the BMS keeps from blowing the fuse in this scenario, it will do so when charge is applied: than current will increase so much that the fuse either blows from overcurrent or because the BMS goes into charge mode, detects a faulty cell and blows the fuse.
      I'm currently trying to get those special fuses and in fear of the genuineness of the stuff one can find on Alibaba/Aliexpress and sorts, I try to get them from the original manufacturer (dexerials, in my case, ATC Semitec also supplies them). And that's NOT easy...

  • @liliu9724
    @liliu9724 5 лет назад +57

    the style of grasping a knife is so foolish, the blade of the knife shouldn't face the thumb.

    • @rogerxxxxxxx
      @rogerxxxxxxx 4 года назад +1

      Yes the knife should face your thumb if you wish to visit the hospital!

    • @uawsux
      @uawsux 2 года назад +1

      all of the cases I found are all sealed by Sonic virtually melted together a knife is stupid you will never open it with a knife I use my Dremel with a saw blade on the end it is very narrow and I use a gauge to keep from cutting too deep works out fine dust goes everywhere though I use a vacuum cleaner be careful

  • @MusicMinisterJP7
    @MusicMinisterJP7 4 года назад +5

    Interesting idea, but easier said than done. My batt cover didn't come off in a way it can be reused. I think it would be best if one were to heatup those edges a bit, with hair blower or heatgun before trying to separate halves. The glue used is very strong.

    • @ElectronicsComputers
      @ElectronicsComputers  4 года назад +2

      yeah, some of them glued very well but anyway it's doable

    • @MusicMinisterJP7
      @MusicMinisterJP7 4 года назад +1

      @@ElectronicsComputers at least I found out that all the cells were Samsung and healthy. Each holding a 4.12v after charge. So I guess the problem was the circuitry board. Mind you, that pack is dated 2007. Either case, I ordered a new battery. Keeping the cells for my flash lights.

  • @p-hawk1956
    @p-hawk1956 3 года назад

    Thank you. I've done this using your video, in order to make my AutoCAD laptop lighter for regular airport travel. I always prefer using my laptops connected into power supplies.

  • @tyndaldi7569
    @tyndaldi7569 3 года назад +4

    Dropped a like cause your video was first I saw and it helped me accomplish my goal. Thanks a bunch!

  • @JohnnyB43
    @JohnnyB43 5 лет назад +7

    Great thanks,
    Audio is poor / difficult to make out.
    Is great that you cover so much in one video - I wanted an idea of how to open a laptop battery pack and what was inside. But your video not only had that but also practical ideas on how to use the batteries inside and how to test them etc. 👍
    cheers
    JB

    • @mohanvvip
      @mohanvvip 4 года назад +6

      Audio is not too bad. Use auto captions feature from settings, it helps.

  • @vr2ng
    @vr2ng 3 года назад +3

    Thank you for sharing. IMHO the blade shall not point toward one's own thumb. Discharge battery as much as you can before trying to open, to minimize the spark just in case the blade short the circuit

  • @MagnumForce51
    @MagnumForce51 Год назад

    I got a 96 or so watt hour battery from HP for a HP DV2000 and it definitely is the type that is glued together. Battery runs the laptop for maybe 10 or 15 minutes before laptop will shutdown. I plan to replace the entire pack and dissemble the old one salvage the good cells. Unlike the one shown here mine has 2 pairs of 6 18650s so I should be able to scrounge together a pair of good cells for my vintage Compaq M700 which uses same cell type. Though that battery pack takes 4 cell pairs instead of 3 like the one shown in this video. I have already pulled that pack apart.
    Given it's age the controller (for the Compaq M700 laptop) doesn't really track cycles like the newer ones so that one is just a matter of disconnecting the controller for resetting it once I put the new cells in. So I should hopefully be able to get that one to at least run the laptop for at least 30 minutes at least. The battery pack for it is unoptanium now so rebuilding it is really the only route I can take. That laptop doesn't pull as much current as the HP DV2000 too so I think if I can find some decent cells out of this battery pack should hopefully give new life to that laptop. The rest I plan to use as spares for my bicycle flashlight which uses a single 18650 cell. (fun fact the AC adapter for that laptop works with the HP DV2000 too. Though the newer laptop pulls about 1.5 more amps then the older laptop so I wouldn't really recommend using it. I plan on getting a proper adapter for it eventually. Found this laptop (the HP DV2000) being sold as is at my local pawn shop for only $5 as-is because the screen wouldn't turn on. Turned out the power cable to the backlight for the screen had come loose so was easy fix! :D )
    But the tricky thing will be finding which good cells are in this pack I can use because voltage alone won't tell me which ones are bad. It's the current capacity that has degraded in these cells contrary to what many people might think. Battery voltages going negative (polarity reversing) will of coarse be an easy spot but once that happens the controller shuts down and the pack will no longer charge so pretty sure none of my cells have degraded to that point yet. This actually happened at one point with the battery back for my Compaq m700. It's how I know the charge controller is pretty simple and doesn't have any fancy limits. I replaced the cell pair that went negative and the controller lets me charge it again. Though I still only get like 5 minutes out of it right now so all the cells still need to be replaced.
    Looks like I might have to get a bit more destructive to pull mine apart. Not too bothered by that though. I don't plan on reusing it anyways and aftermarket packs can still be found. (for the HP DV2000)
    The after market standard capacity ones being easier to pull apart is good to know. The ones i've found are only like $15 on ebay so if I don't find enough decent cells in this dead pack I plan to just buy a second HP pack and pull that one apart. (well actually now that I think about it I'll probably have to get 2 because I need 4 cell pairs and these HP packs only use 3 cell pairs)
    EDIT:
    Was able to open the pack up without severally mangling it up. (the edges are pretty rough though but it holds together fine if I use some tape. :P ). Checked and seen normal voltages for all the cells so looks like my pack either has a battery IC that has decided to not let windows keep the computer powered up for more then 15 minutes or the cells current capacity has dropped.
    I did test the batteries with BIOS screen pulled up though and get much longer run times so it's only Windows that is causing the laptop to shutdown early. I believe perhaps it's the battery IC intentionally giving the computer low battery level. this probably happens after a certain amount of recharge cycles. Cells might still be ok and IC needs to be reset. Don't really have the hardware to do that though. I've read that you need a USB/I2C adapter to connect IC to a computer to reflash EEPROM to reset battery stats. Probably more trouble then it's worth. I'll probably just pull the cells out and try and install them to my Compaq M700 pack. Though the batteries are in pairs of 4 so will be tricky to seperate them to pairs of 2 without breaking off the solder tabs. Hopefully I have something that can cut tab ends in half so I can still make them fit. :P
    Since all the cells appear to show similar voltages when I do this I plan to fully discharge the pack then pick the cell pairs with the highest voltages for use in the m700 pack.

  • @EmpInd
    @EmpInd 3 года назад +4

    Please use Cut protecting gloves to avoid accidents.
    Great video by the way.. Cheers!

  • @n1kkri
    @n1kkri 2 года назад +1

    Dell D600 battery (C1295) With a jumper between Ground and the SYS PRESENT pin I can measure voltage and discharge the battery using a R/C charger /discharger. However I can not charge at the out most pins. No current flow goes into the battery.
    If I put the battery back in the laptop it will charge it full again. Would you know if I need another jumper to allow the battery to accept charging?

  • @Batteridoktorn
    @Batteridoktorn 4 года назад +14

    your THUMB looks really scared in this video =)

  • @MegaSuperBrundleFly
    @MegaSuperBrundleFly 5 лет назад +3

    Very thorough and informative vid, thank you. Is it possible to reinstall a combination of good cells back into the laptop battery case then use it as a powerbank for the laptop by cabling it in through the DC input jack on the laptop? Would this powerbank then just require a 12v external trickle-charger? I suppose the problem there would be that the laptop wouldn't be sensing the battery drain, and would "think" it has an AC adapter plugged in.

    • @ElectronicsComputers
      @ElectronicsComputers  5 лет назад

      Technically it's possible but laptop's jack require not 10-12 volts but 19-20 volts. So you need more cells to achieve that voltage. No sense.

    • @weeardguy
      @weeardguy 3 года назад

      @@ElectronicsComputers And you face the problem that the BMS could cut off supply as it is missing communication via its SMbus.

    • @wouterk2170
      @wouterk2170 3 года назад

      @@ElectronicsComputers You should be careful with that. HP and Dell often assign a data cable to the inner pin of the connector, whereas in other brands this pin is the positive voltage connection. The data cable tells the laptop whether it is an original charger or not. Connecting the + to this pin might ruin your charger or your battery or worse: your laptop.

  • @gnuPirate
    @gnuPirate 8 месяцев назад

    Awesome video dude! Really enjoyed this. Very straightforward and clear explanation. Thank you! SUB.

  • @junoguten
    @junoguten 4 года назад +3

    Is the battery cycle counter some low-bit value that I can easily saturate and get it to say 1 again by using a voltage controller and just running it up and down every so many seconds?

    • @weeardguy
      @weeardguy 3 года назад +1

      Completely depends on the chip used. The laptop-batteries I have opened so far contain a chip from Maxim or a BQxxZxx (with xx standing for whatever kind of number) from Texas Instruments. The last chips are incredibly complicated chips that communicate per SMbus (a rather timing-intolerant protocol), feature password-protected access, require the chip to be 'unsealed' before you can write to certain parts of the dataflash and then you have the 'full access' mode, which makes sure you can alter anything you like, but requires specific commands to be send first to get into that mode.
      Just using a voltage controller won't work: it will only sense cells connected and everything that happens to them and will count a cycle as specified in the software (don't know about the Maxim ones but the BQ20Z65, the one I'm dealing with right now, can be set to refrain from charging if the pack-voltage is at a level considered unnecessary to charge, a level that can be preset by the user via software.

  • @rafzibi9188
    @rafzibi9188 3 года назад +1

    Amazing video. Many thanks.
    Liked it and subscribed.

    • @ElectronicsComputers
      @ElectronicsComputers  3 года назад +1

      I'm happy to help and thank you for your support!

    • @rafzibi9188
      @rafzibi9188 3 года назад +1

      @@ElectronicsComputers
      You are very welcome

  • @mbzumzum500
    @mbzumzum500 5 лет назад +2

    Thanks for the video ..
    I have a problem with the battery from HP that is on the laptop Pavilion dv6000
    I opened the battery and measured the elements 1865 and all 6 is excellent, but at the exit on the battery port there is nothing zero volt and the laptop reports that the batteries do not have ...

    • @ElectronicsComputers
      @ElectronicsComputers  5 лет назад +4

      All laptop's batteries don't have voltage on the connector unless they are plugged in into the laptop or you have emulate that connection by shorting switch terminal to ground. Watch this video: ruclips.net/video/-MGQ0Ap_raM/видео.html
      If it doesn't work for you then the battery in protection mode.

  • @laptopbattery8914
    @laptopbattery8914 5 лет назад +1

    Very good!

  • @ravenjamtay5347
    @ravenjamtay5347 Год назад

    I got issue with my old battery pack but I found out the thermal resister had leaked or blown so could you do a video to replace thermal fuse?

  • @andrew007s
    @andrew007s 7 месяцев назад

    Excellent video!!!

  • @albertoolmos21
    @albertoolmos21 5 месяцев назад

    Banana oil helps soften the glue. It is widely used in the repair of power adapters.

  • @wahyu4e
    @wahyu4e 2 года назад

    Nice trick, thank you

  • @FoodStreetRider
    @FoodStreetRider 3 года назад

    which cell is best of LENOVO T430 LAPTOP battery ? how much MAH and what is the CONFIGURATION of Cell is best ?

  • @wouterk2170
    @wouterk2170 3 года назад +1

    Do you think you can avoid blowing the fuse and bypass the problems wth the BMS-chip if you first connect a new set of fully loaded 18650 cels in parallel with the old ones, and only then disconnect the old ones and put everything back in place? I mean, you take good new cells, charge them, prepare the configuration as in the laptop battery and then connect the old cells in parallel with the new ones. Then connect the new cells to the leads of the circuit board; After that disconnect the old cells and put everything in place. I tried this method with good results on my old dive computer (but this had only one cell to replace). Or will the BMS disconnect after a certain amount of charging cycles, regardless of the state of the battery?

    • @ElectronicsComputers
      @ElectronicsComputers  3 года назад +2

      That trick will work if your charge controller not in a protected mode (for example when it says that the battery needs to be replaced or if you've already messed up with its wires). But again replacing the cells without reflashing the controller is also not a good idea. You can use some software like Aida64 which shows the battery life in %. If it shows something like 0-20% battery life then there's no point replacing the cells (without reflashing the chip) because even with the new cells the battery will be disabled after those 20% of life or something.

  • @BS_Y
    @BS_Y 2 года назад

    Short, 2 the point n informative.
    Me likey !
    Is it the same procedure, for a Vaio laptop battery ?
    Thx !

  • @soundspark
    @soundspark 2 года назад

    I recently woke up a pack that was discharged to 2 volts, managed to pop open the back enough to probe each cell with a 3.3V power supply until they had enough voltage to be plugged in.

    • @Thomas_P_aus_M
      @Thomas_P_aus_M 4 месяца назад

      If the voltage of Li-Ion cells falls below 2.5 volts, they are deeply discharged. It's not a good idea to continue using them. There is a risk that they will later become critical and burn. Yes, you can be lucky and nothing happens, but the risk is significantly higher than with healthy cells.
      Nobody wants a house burning or loss of life.
      Before disposing of such cells, it is best to discharge them completely to 0 volts. Some good chargers have this mode. If not, an old light bulb from a bicycle or something similar will also help.

  • @Gregorius421
    @Gregorius421 16 дней назад

    2:48 I can't find your review of 18650 power banks 😢

  • @BluuJourney
    @BluuJourney Год назад

    Thank you for letting us know that just replacing the batteries won't work

  • @1eskip
    @1eskip 4 года назад

    No link to the complete accu????

  • @_ulick
    @_ulick 4 года назад

    i have the same battery!

  • @DeliciousDeBlair
    @DeliciousDeBlair 5 лет назад +1

    Question: can you reset these 'automatic shutdown' systems or eliminate them entirely and still make a device continue to operate?

    • @ElectronicsComputers
      @ElectronicsComputers  5 лет назад

      Do you mean when the battery is low the system shutdowns your laptop and you want to disable that feature, right?

    • @DeliciousDeBlair
      @DeliciousDeBlair 5 лет назад +1

      @@ElectronicsComputers
      1, Its a camcorder, 2, its THE camcorder, and NOT the battery. [just to be very concisely clear]
      The battery still works on another camcorder.
      The camcorder just up and stopped working one day.
      Nothing is broken, it has never been wet inside, or gotten into dirt or dust, it has always been stored in a cool dry place, so why it just decided to shut off, I can only assume is because it was programmed to shut off.
      I had the same thing happen to 2 different branded microwave ovens as well.
      They briefly act all weird then shut off totally.
      Cameras and microwaves self destructing in the very same manner is [to ME at least] HIGHLY suspicious.

    • @j.lietka9406
      @j.lietka9406 4 года назад

      Delicious DeBlair wish i could taste you! hee hee! no, really, do you have a Sony camcorder/handycam? thank you..bought 1 at a garage sale, sorta works. has dual mini video cassette & flash card storage mediums.

  • @Lee-haw
    @Lee-haw 15 дней назад

    Can't i use that controller board, to use it as BMS for battery for another device?
    I want to power a 14v motor.

    • @ElectronicsComputers
      @ElectronicsComputers  15 дней назад

      In theory with the same battery capacity and voltage it may work but most likely you'll need an adapter to reset the controller and clean its state including a protection lock. If you know someone who has that thing, then cool if not, then it's better to buy a new BMS which costs just about $10 delivered.

  • @manjulabw
    @manjulabw 2 года назад

    sweet and short. no bullshit 👍👍👍

  • @prawny12009
    @prawny12009 4 года назад

    Are there any sources for new bare cases and controllers for diy builds using quality cells.

    • @ElectronicsComputers
      @ElectronicsComputers  4 года назад

      never seen anything like that. But there are some Chinese manufacturers who makes high quality batteries for about 25$ which don't block itself and you can easily upgrade them

    • @yotoprules9361
      @yotoprules9361 Год назад

      @@ElectronicsComputers What manufacturer are those? Most third party batteries I've used are crap, 50% of them are DOA and the other 50% are lucky to last 2 hours.

  • @JamesMPonce
    @JamesMPonce 2 года назад

    How do I know which cells are the ones I should use for my battery pack?, I need to re-cell my Asus G752 battery, I have been looking for a lot of info on this with no luck

    • @ElectronicsComputers
      @ElectronicsComputers  2 года назад

      You need a multimiter and a battery charger to check and test the batteries.

  • @user-di3lk6dw9u
    @user-di3lk6dw9u Год назад

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  • @arabcraze
    @arabcraze Год назад

    Where to get this battry u convert into power bank. Any link?

    • @ElectronicsComputers
      @ElectronicsComputers  Год назад +1

      Here's the link for the battery: alii.pub/6j0jha
      If you need 18650 cells or power bank cases, the links in the description.

    • @arabcraze
      @arabcraze Год назад

      @@ElectronicsComputers tnx

    • @arabcraze
      @arabcraze Год назад

      @@ElectronicsComputers hi thanks for sharing link the same battery i need is can set in hp laptop 4340s probook?
      Waiting for replay if yes i will order. Thanks again

  • @davdaamit
    @davdaamit 5 лет назад +1

    Hello i opened battery as u shown.. after that I checked that all battery are ok and ith with multimeter but what i found when i packed battery again and tried to check... After putting back to laptop it stoped working... Can u please help me.. i haven't touched circuit or anything i just open battery sheal checked and packed it

    • @rakeshbade6853
      @rakeshbade6853 5 лет назад

      Same issue with me no voltage at battery connector but at cell level 12.54 volt

    • @TheSkyPod
      @TheSkyPod 4 года назад

      if nothing happens after pressing power button
      connect the charger to the laptop for 5 minutes then remove the charger.

  • @LuisMiguelGarciaTorres
    @LuisMiguelGarciaTorres 4 года назад

    Hello. My laptop needs the battery plugged in for updating the bios, but I removed the battery as it was bloated and didnt hold a charge. The queston is, can I put the battery back in with the cells removed? will I need to short the cables cnnecting to the batteries or just leave the ends separate and disconnected to anyting? thank you.

    • @ElectronicsComputers
      @ElectronicsComputers  4 года назад

      You can't trick that way your BIOS. You need to put new cells in the battery pack.

    • @Callagwhan
      @Callagwhan 4 года назад

      if your laptop is asus, be in bios, press flash, when it asks for battery, write risky and it will allow to flash :)

  • @j.lietka9406
    @j.lietka9406 4 года назад

    so you just cant replace 1, 2, or even 3, or all the cells? it wont work? the BMS pcb knows the difference. if you replace 1 cell, will it still work? how about a new BMS and 6 new matching cells? thanks for a great video

    • @ElectronicsComputers
      @ElectronicsComputers  4 года назад +1

      I the charge controller already in a protection mode then you need to reflash it with a new firmware or modify existent which is extremely difficult. But if it's OK and it can charge your cells then you can replace all cells one by one.

    • @j.lietka9406
      @j.lietka9406 4 года назад +1

      2013Electronics&Computers ok thank you, & yes, its cheaper to just purchase a replacement one! but its the idea of learning how they work, DIY

  • @junoguten
    @junoguten 4 года назад

    If the battery is broken, does the chip already know it is, or does it only say it's ruined once I switch the batteries?
    If it's the latter, can I solder 6 3,7v batteries to the ports before removing the old ones and only remove them after I've placed the new ones?

    • @ElectronicsComputers
      @ElectronicsComputers  4 года назад +1

      If the cells are dead or about to die the controller already knows it. Because it counts cycles and can determine the voltage, temperature and cells battery capacity that drops. The only way to reset it is reflash the chip or simply edit its firmware values that indicate the battery cycle.

    • @junoguten
      @junoguten 4 года назад

      Aww, that sucks. Thanks for taking the time to answer.

  • @kalinusa
    @kalinusa 4 года назад

    I am still a little bit unclear about two possible scenarios:
    1. I have an old lenovo battery. The battery charges to 55%. Can I simply open it, check the batteries and replace with soldering only the faulty ones? Regardless of the charge-cycle counter the battery is obviously still charging. Would I be able to replace and simply continue...
    2. Same scenario but I have an identical lenovo battery that charges to 100%. If I change all the cells inside with new higher capacity ones, would that be ok? What can that controller do? The battery is till working.

    • @ElectronicsComputers
      @ElectronicsComputers  4 года назад

      it's not that easy to replace them. If the controller senses any changes it will block the battery pack. try to read this article: hackaday.io/page/247-replacing-lenovo-laptop-lithium-batteries

  • @CMEFLIP
    @CMEFLIP 3 года назад

    Are the HP Battery packs firmware "sealed" or can the error codes be reset with an EV2300? I Do not think you are correct in the device "burns the fuse" rather it will set permanent errors preventing the FET to turn on the output from the cells.
    If the packs are sealed do you have the unlock / full access codes for these packs?

    • @ElectronicsComputers
      @ElectronicsComputers  3 года назад

      You have to reflash the chip to reset it counter. The fuse 12AH3 or 12AG3 is externally triggerable fuse. Their main purpose is to provide a way for the microcontroller to physically break the circuit if it detects a potentially dangerous condition like the overheating of the cells, shortcircuit or cells disconnection by user user.

    • @CMEFLIP
      @CMEFLIP 3 года назад

      @@ElectronicsComputers if that is the case why can't you just replace the fuse with a jumper?

    • @CMEFLIP
      @CMEFLIP 3 года назад

      @@ElectronicsComputers What is the gas gauge chip #

    • @weeardguy
      @weeardguy 3 года назад +1

      @@CMEFLIP Because you don't want to. The fuse is their as a 2nd tier safety feature. Charging and discharging is controlled by the BMS IC (fuel/gas gauge chip), via a MOSFET for each function. If for whatever reason the BMS-IC detects a fault, it will either turn the respective FET off, or go into a shutdown mode if the situation asks for it.
      Now, let's say one is charging the battery, but one cell starts to overheat: the BMS will know about that situation as it has at least a thermistor outside stuck to the cells and (sometimes) also has its own thermistor inside the chip.
      So, the BMS will signal a fault and will cut off the charge-current by disabling the charge-FET. But as the charge-FET is an electrical component which can fail, it could happen that the BMS can try to shut the FET down all it wants, but if the FET keeps conducting, the cells will be seeing charge. The thermal problem will get worse and thermal runaway is a serious problem with lithium cells.
      That's why the fuse is there: if cutting of charge-supply doesn't work for some reason, while the BMS tries its best in doing so, it will trigger an alert-state and drive a pin on the fuel gauge high, which in turn starts heating a filament underneath the fuse element, that within a given time, breaks the circuit.
      Really, you do NOT want to remove this feature if you care about your home, your product the battery lives in, and (an even worse scenario) all the people on a plane you are travelling with while you thought it's a good idea to mess with a fuse inside a battery.
      It really is a kind-of last resort for the BMS-IC: don't mess with it.

  • @hitmanyt2021
    @hitmanyt2021 3 месяца назад

    just apply diesel to every side battery will open easily

  • @andreymoura9865
    @andreymoura9865 4 года назад +1

    0:12 is the same battery as mine

  • @A6Legit
    @A6Legit Год назад

    That sucks about the controller, I was hoping I could just swap out the cells. Do they cell new controllers or I'm guessing it's easier/cheaper to just buy a new pack and see if the old cells are salvageable

    • @ElectronicsComputers
      @ElectronicsComputers  Год назад

      There are some third-party manufacturers that sell batteries with Samsung or LG cells and those batteries as good as the original ones and don't have controller locking features, so you can replace cells without any problems. Such battery will cost you about 30$ delivered.

  • @A6Legit
    @A6Legit Год назад

    I think my hp battery is 8 cells but it says 4910 mah. Were batteries really that bad 10-15 years ago?
    Seems like todays 18650 are easily 1500-3000mah which is 3-6x more capacity

  • @rontropics26
    @rontropics26 4 года назад

    How to cut apart the cells without them sparking? Kinda scary. Especially on 24v tool battery packs.

    • @jj987987987
      @jj987987987 4 года назад +2

      If you are concerned about using tools to open it, just go outside and throw the entire assembly against the ground, usually it will pop open on first try with moderate force.

  • @Hi-oq8tx
    @Hi-oq8tx 3 года назад +1

    Can a scratch in the cell make it damage

    • @ElectronicsComputers
      @ElectronicsComputers  3 года назад

      Only if you cut it through or bend the cell or give it a serious whack.

  • @creativemind7255
    @creativemind7255 2 года назад

    Laptop battery timing is very low almost 10 min. I have done window but condition is same.
    And then I open the battery and the battery have 6 cell. All 6 cell shows the 4.22 voltage but they should show 3.7 voltage,
    What there is problem,can you tell me if you understand it?

    • @MagnumForce51
      @MagnumForce51 Год назад +1

      3.7 is nominal charge. However 4.2 is the floating voltage for a fully charged 18650 cell when a load is not connected. It is normal for your cells to show a 4.2v charge. it means they are fully charged. But if your issue is the battery not running the laptop for long enough, either the charging IC decided to limit usage time after a preprogrammed limit of charge cycles or the cells current capacity has degraded so the voltage drops faster then normal. So voltage alone doesn't always tell you how degraded a cell is. You have to load test them. ;)

  • @andraskovacs502
    @andraskovacs502 3 года назад

    Hy what is it type Sanyo cell"s typ by on this video.
    I find this cell on my old laptop battery but don"t find type of with purple pozitíve face type
    But my ver. Dont Red full skin my 18650 is Orange full cover and purple pozitíve center

    • @ElectronicsComputers
      @ElectronicsComputers  3 года назад

      If it's purple ring with orange wrapping then it's 2650mAh cell. If it's purple ring with red wrapping then it's something about 2100-2200mAh.

    • @andraskovacs502
      @andraskovacs502 3 года назад

      @@ElectronicsComputers
      Thanks

  • @silkieshag9703
    @silkieshag9703 3 года назад

    bro, if you have a battery that says +14.4 and it has 4 bateries, does that mean each battery is 3.6v, 3.7v or 3.8v ?

    • @ElectronicsComputers
      @ElectronicsComputers  3 года назад

      The nominal voltage of 18650 cells is 3.7V and 4.2V when fully charged.

  • @fanchiyuen2846
    @fanchiyuen2846 3 года назад

    Can i ask question about my note book battery ? My computer is a acer za3 battery 10.8v . On market for Za3 battery is 11.1v . Can it (11.1v) be used on acer za3 ?

    • @ElectronicsComputers
      @ElectronicsComputers  3 года назад

      Yes, they are both compatible with your laptop. Those are the same batteries. Whether you call the average 18650 cell voltage 3.6 or 3.7 makes no difference; they're the same.

    • @fanchiyuen2846
      @fanchiyuen2846 3 года назад

      @@ElectronicsComputers 11.1 v battery will destory note book ?

    • @ElectronicsComputers
      @ElectronicsComputers  3 года назад

      @@fanchiyuen2846 NO! That battery compatible with your laptop. Like I said in the previous comment 10.8 and 11.1 are the same batteries.

    • @fanchiyuen2846
      @fanchiyuen2846 3 года назад

      @@ElectronicsComputers However the battery has marked 10.8v that is true. Maybe the battery board can drop about voltage to 10.8v. Because the note book need 10.8v to operation. That is my think about . Many thanks

    • @ElectronicsComputers
      @ElectronicsComputers  3 года назад

      @@fanchiyuen2846 Man, you don't understand. there are inside 18650 Li-ion cells. Li-ion batteries have nominal voltage 3.6-3.7V and if you connect 3 cells in series you'll get 10.8V or 11.1V. Moreover those batteries have that voltage only when they are not fully charged. A fully charged Lithium battery has 4.2V which means some manufacturers instead of 10.8 or 11.1V can mark that battery as 12.6V battery. But anyway it will be the same battery. Don't worry about it's just different markings of the same battery model.

  • @uawsux
    @uawsux 2 года назад

    yes great video audio was a little quiet I will give you thumbs up and subscribe anyhow but I need to rebuild my Asus eee laptop battery you're telling me I can't that's not what I want to hear....

    • @ElectronicsComputers
      @ElectronicsComputers  2 года назад

      Everything is possible, depends on how much effort you're going to put in that project. What's the battery condition?

  • @sffah3440
    @sffah3440 2 года назад

    with your voice, I suggest u speak Russian. but anyway very good information thumbs up for you

    • @ElectronicsComputers
      @ElectronicsComputers  2 года назад

      Have you ever heard Russian accent? Because it's the one you'd never confuse, would you?

  • @xerxesYt123
    @xerxesYt123 4 года назад

    why does the two dont have power?

  • @pownkalpana5492
    @pownkalpana5492 2 года назад

    How much mah battery used this laptop battery

  • @joebroderi
    @joebroderi 2 года назад

    Mmmmmm! the battery case was still a little guntered and damaged around the edges. Is there a better way to open these cases using heat for example ? (just not enough heat to melt the plastic!, just the glue inside) Also any discoloured cells should be discarded as these are damaged.

  • @SRKHORWAL
    @SRKHORWAL 3 года назад

    Links not working

    • @ElectronicsComputers
      @ElectronicsComputers  3 года назад

      Use the links in the description box below the video. The website with ads will redirect you to my cloud, just follow its instructions (you'll need to watch commercial video). It's totally FREE! Click on "Free Access with Ads".

  • @Psycandy
    @Psycandy 3 года назад

    DUDE! NEVER cut towards yourself, rule #1 of cutting anything

    • @ElectronicsComputers
      @ElectronicsComputers  3 года назад

      I never do it like that in real life. But it was extremely inconvenient with the camera and tripod between your hands.

  • @FuchsHorst
    @FuchsHorst 4 года назад

    How about using a screen opening tool like one of the popular chinese stores offers? The same tool that people use to open mobile phones and glued displays/iMacs? Should be less destruktive and cause less damage to one fingers…

    • @ElectronicsComputers
      @ElectronicsComputers  4 года назад

      Those prying tools are too weak for this purpose. You need something made of metal.

    • @FuchsHorst
      @FuchsHorst 4 года назад +1

      2013Electronics&Computers Maybe something like "iSesamo"? The tool is available under different names from different vendors. It's out of a softish metal, flexible but solid enough to sneak in

  • @danielstapleton4490
    @danielstapleton4490 Год назад

    Your title is a bit misleading. Right out of the gate, you damaged the case with the cutter knife. That's clearly damage.

  • @CaptainJNasty
    @CaptainJNasty 2 года назад

    No OSHA here 🤣

  • @TheBlaert
    @TheBlaert 2 года назад +1

    Damn be careful with that knife. Might seem like a whinge but those knives will cut to the bone with no effort

  • @medievalwebman2917
    @medievalwebman2917 2 года назад

    THis is How Our Asian Parents: 3:29

  • @GiffysChannel
    @GiffysChannel 5 лет назад +5

    You're pretty knifty

  • @lahtrazm.b9409
    @lahtrazm.b9409 2 года назад +1

    Your using cutter so danger ti your hand..

    • @ElectronicsComputers
      @ElectronicsComputers  2 года назад

      It's not very easy process with the tripod and camera on the desk.

  • @cemomaher1650
    @cemomaher1650 3 года назад

    The way you use knife is dangerous. Safety : 0

  • @TornadoSandwich
    @TornadoSandwich 5 лет назад +3

    Wow what a shitty thing for HP to do. Even Apple doesn't stoop that low. I have a 2008 MacBook that's using a battery made in 2006 and it still works, holds a 2-3 hour charge with normal use running Windows 10

  • @lightfield1388
    @lightfield1388 2 года назад +2

    Use gloves hay hay hay cut my finger 😩

  • @arinsa8755
    @arinsa8755 3 года назад

    the most stupid move...scalpel forced to your hand...

  • @discoequipmenthire
    @discoequipmenthire 4 года назад

    Cut Towards your chum, not towards your thumb.

  • @kingisrael1532
    @kingisrael1532 2 года назад

    Nope I will just replace for 11 bucks🤷🏽‍♂️