how you can combat transmedicalism

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  • trans depath playlist:
    • Resisting Trans Medica...
    transmedicalism is transphobic:
    • Transmedicalism is Tra...
    more rly great further reading on depathologization!
    translifeline's issues page discusses multiple forms of discrimination against transness, including a brief overview of medicalization:
    translifeline....
    open-access public health piece that is wonderful! publichealthre...
    another, shorter, open-access piece:
    www.ncbi.nlm.n...
    easy-to-read depath overview from 2016:
    www.huffpost.c...
    pretty epic anarcho-transhumanism piece:
    theanarchistli...
    on gender, transness, & race:
    a fantastic depath lecture focusing on TPOC childhood:
    www.uvic.ca/hs...
    on transmedicalism & ableism:
    this one isn't open-access, but the abstract is solid, and my fellow students may have institutional access:
    link.springer....
    again, not open-access but interesting abstract: (note that I don't endore the use of the word Asperger's.)
    journals.sagep...
    not perfect, but another in-depth look on disability studies and trans studies:
    dsq-sds.org/ar...
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Комментарии • 415

  • @graveyardpansy
    @graveyardpansy  3 года назад +283

    hi pals! youtube has recently once again made their subtitling system worse and I'm trying a slightly different method on this video, so let me know how the CC is once it becomes available. also, don't forget to check out the links in the description! there's a lot of good stuff ! have a lovely day

    • @graveyardpansy
      @graveyardpansy  3 года назад +16

      @@ce4679 i wish i did :( it’s all written and uploaded, but i keep getting a message from RUclips that ‘processing is taking longer than usual’

    • @emmac.1750
      @emmac.1750 3 года назад +3

      @@ce4679 ik i’m a bit late but the cc is available now!

    • @jackriver8385
      @jackriver8385 3 года назад +3

      The cc is looking good now thank you for writing it every time ❤ RUclips is really shit with these things and lately even the shitty automatic captions are not always available anymore..

    • @charlie9808
      @charlie9808 3 года назад +12

      At 11:32 there's trans medievalist written instead of trans medicalist, but I find it fitting...

  • @nnoctivagantt
    @nnoctivagantt 3 года назад +176

    RUclips captions have interpreted "transmedicalists" as "trans medeivalists" and I just think that's funny

    • @graveyardpansy
      @graveyardpansy  3 года назад +27

      wait where!! do you know around what time stamp i thought i fixed all of that :((

    • @nnoctivagantt
      @nnoctivagantt 3 года назад +17

      @@graveyardpansy I can't find it now :( It was somewhere in the middle though, if I'm remembering correctly. I do, however, think we could use more trans medievalists in the community.

    • @wondering.why.
      @wondering.why. 3 года назад +16

      @@graveyardpansy Not op but around 11:31 ! :)

    • @dpaq5885
      @dpaq5885 3 года назад +4

      @@graveyardpansy Just as a reminder, the captions still say "trans medievalists" as pointed out by OP, and it happens on 11:31 as Renchan above says! Hope you have a good day!

    • @yoshisarethebomb
      @yoshisarethebomb 3 года назад +9

      Because they have a medieval mindset :)

  • @vamperis00
    @vamperis00 3 года назад +73

    When I was transmed, I remember always being super fucking angry and upset all the time seeing people literally being themselves unapologetically? And every damn day I would find myself questioning my identity and if I count as a trans person. Hell I often can't tell if I am non binary or just a trans guy or both if that's possible? But either way I stopped caring so much and now just be my fucking self without stressing so much.

  • @brennenbeckwith
    @brennenbeckwith 3 года назад +281

    Literally I can’t pronounce trans-de path either LMAO

  • @nechma13
    @nechma13 3 года назад +201

    Some people will never be able to get medical transition things like surgery and hormones because of healthcare, money, mental health, physical health or family acceptance. They are trans enough still

    • @Kimberly34584
      @Kimberly34584 3 года назад +28

      So true. If someone has the resources and means to transition fully however that may be, they are privileged. So many people just don’t have the same opportunities. I see it as trans meds are sitting on their high horse looking down on people in worse situations than them and it makes me sick

    • @SebastianSeanCrow
      @SebastianSeanCrow 3 года назад +10

      oh yeah i follow a guy here on youtube whose health prevents him from going on T. it's not uncommon and also barriers in general to specialized healthcare of any sort is extremely common. i'd have already been on T and recovered from top surgery if it weren't for financial barriers, on TOP of the favt that some places require certim types of refferrals too :/

    • @ShukaHusk
      @ShukaHusk 3 года назад +4

      @@Kimberly34584 you have no idea what a transmed is

    • @kaiyodei
      @kaiyodei 3 года назад +2

      if it is not a medical issue then why get help paying for it? because "life saving"? then who is to say the flat chick who wants bazoongas isn't going to live happy without one

    • @quasi8180
      @quasi8180 2 года назад

      @@Kimberly34584 i dont and it sucks

  • @eerieisnotfromhere
    @eerieisnotfromhere 3 года назад +255

    nyx black liquid lip is a godsend for filling in big wings without destroying your eyeliner pen tips!! also guess who finally figured out they're nonbinarrryyyy

    • @graveyardpansy
      @graveyardpansy  3 года назад +77

      yess it truly is ! and congrats on ur gender >:)

    • @lavenderkismet4568
      @lavenderkismet4568 3 года назад +8

      Congrats! 🎉💛🤍💜🖤🎉

    • @laurxcv
      @laurxcv 3 года назад +8

      also eye/body-safe acrylic paint! and you don't have to buy the expensive mac ones, online or some craft stores carry some brands that can be used near the eye and mouth. :)

    • @papercutsunset
      @papercutsunset 3 года назад +2

      congrats on the gender!! 💛🤍💜🖤

    • @SebastianSeanCrow
      @SebastianSeanCrow 3 года назад

      this comment just reminded me i lost my Nyx Liquid Suede in Alien.... TwT

  • @alex_down4772
    @alex_down4772 3 года назад +60

    To be honest, one of the first trans youtubers I saw was KG and when I found him I was identifying as gender fluid but seeing the info he shares made me feel so bad. I thought I was attention seeking and that making stuff up, I stopped following him after finding other trans youtubers.
    I alienated myself of the community cause I felt like I was harming it more than anything. My ex is ftm and I didn’t wanna be toxic towards him so I pushed aside my feelings about my identity.
    I just recently talked with my friends (my ex included) about using my pronouns and being gender fluid, smth I felt I had to hide before.

    • @bookish.j3669
      @bookish.j3669 3 года назад +7

      Yeah he was also my first trans youtuber i found who made me surpress my questioning for years🙃
      I'm sorry he made you feel so bad and guilty just for existing.
      Also, really happy for you that yoy talked to your friends!!!

    • @alex_down4772
      @alex_down4772 3 года назад +5

      Its sad how finding one (1) negative person can scare trans people out of the community but i've been trying to find more youtubers who give information on trans topics in a positive way

    • @cybr224
      @cybr224 3 года назад

      Kalvin Garrah #kalvingarrah

  • @absudjj
    @absudjj 3 года назад +159

    His makeup looks killer like purple really is their colour

    • @opiksa519
      @opiksa519 3 года назад +5

      deadassss it fits them so much

  • @creature6715
    @creature6715 3 года назад +31

    I really needed this video because I've been struggling with seeing transmedicalism in my local trans community, I'm a trans woman whose non binary and doesn't want to be traditionally femenine and it can feel alienating to see that kind of rhetoric.
    Especially because I've noticed in the rare instances trans meds talk about trans women and amab non binary people, its basically just garden variety trans misogyny.

  • @thebookwormhotel5336
    @thebookwormhotel5336 3 года назад +173

    Ashton always makes my day
    He so well spoken.
    They have such a relaxing vibe and their voice is calming.
    The makeup he does I'd always really good.
    And best of all they're against transmedicalism

  • @griffinnguyen945
    @griffinnguyen945 3 года назад +67

    i will never get tired of listening to ashton teach me things and show me new perspectives!!! transmedicalism is transphobia, plain and simple. there's no reason to break down gender roles just to build new ones!!

  • @acetraineraster5171
    @acetraineraster5171 3 года назад +75

    Off topic but Ashton, your makeup is the ace colors and I am one very happy bean c:
    But that aside, great video! I agree with everything said here!

  • @mintdec2656
    @mintdec2656 3 года назад +85

    One, I'd love to see you talk about this more, or maybe go more in-depth on the things you mentioned, like xenogenders, ableism, racism, etc.
    Two, I feel like transmedicalism, and transphobia as a whole, is misogynistic too. It seems like non-binary people are "fine" if they dress androgynous or masculine, but are "fake" if they are feminine. It's "fine" if an AMAB non-binary person is cool and likes their chest, but it's "fake" if an AFAB non-binary person is cool and likes their chest. It's "fine" if non-binary people call themselves gay, but "wrong" if they call themselves a lesbian.
    Just a thought

    • @SebastianSeanCrow
      @SebastianSeanCrow 3 года назад +2

      i think Ash already did a video about xenogenders a bit back

    • @kaiyodei
      @kaiyodei 3 года назад +1

      then why act girly girl when not a girl?

    • @mintdec2656
      @mintdec2656 3 года назад +16

      @@kaiyodei because anyone can act girly?

    • @genericusername1236
      @genericusername1236 3 года назад +13

      @@kaiyodei bc i'm a femboy

    • @kaiyodei
      @kaiyodei 2 года назад

      @@geminiwolf0077 but by how we are classfying gender now,. if a tomboy is a tomboy then that alone can be a gender
      well clown fish are not monogomus anyway so that gets tricky.

  • @chimerasofhafgufa
    @chimerasofhafgufa 2 года назад +12

    i live in russia so we have no lgbtqia spaces, it's pretty much illegal and i can become a target of violence because of it
    it sucks to live here, it sucks a lot
    thankfully soon enough(several years tbh) i will move out of here and finally be free to express myself without feeling scared for my life

    • @tomadorus
      @tomadorus 10 месяцев назад +1

      в москве и питере есть несколько гей клубов насколько я знаю. а так да, плохо у нас с этим

  • @somethingsomething9006
    @somethingsomething9006 3 года назад +63

    Looking into this stuff further has caused me to also question whether or not I'm trans. I've always been apathetic towards gender, but recently I've been feeling like I'd be more comfortable as a woman, but the feeling isn't strong enough for me to pursue transitioning...yet.

    • @poem2self
      @poem2self 3 года назад +2

      Don't do it

    • @somethingsomething9006
      @somethingsomething9006 3 года назад +8

      @@poem2self
      Well, for an update I suppose, I haven't done anything. It's kind of weird, after a lot of reflection and some minor social transition steps with one person, I've never had the urge to take it any further.
      My feelings are the same though, and I can never quite get rid of them.

    • @yoshisarethebomb
      @yoshisarethebomb 3 года назад +5

      Cassgender is when someone doesn’t care about gender. Cassgender can still be trans and have a gender. I hope it helps :)

    • @somethingsomething9006
      @somethingsomething9006 3 года назад +8

      @@yoshisarethebomb
      At this point, my feelings on my gender is perfectly summed up the lyrics of the song "IDK If I'm a Boy" by Blue Foster lol

  • @cerezabian
    @cerezabian 3 года назад +13

    I think something that people should aknowledge is that the ableism in transmedicalism affects specifically autistic trans and nonbinary people rather than all neurodivergent people. Gender is a social construct and a trait of autism is that we lack understanding of social constructs, which is why 70% of autistic people are lgbt. This is an experience specific to autistic people. Kalvin himself is neurodivergent which was his excuse for all the ableist things he's said and done to autistic people. Autistic people are the targets of ableism by not only neurotypicals but other neurodivergent people and that doesn't get aknowledged enough

    • @nooneanonymous3340
      @nooneanonymous3340 3 года назад +2

      I’m nb and also transmed

    • @skylar2600
      @skylar2600 3 года назад +1

      good point, ty for bringing this up ~ an autistic nonbinary person

  • @andybee1381
    @andybee1381 3 года назад +79

    The hardest part of leaving trans medicalism is that is was very useful for explaining being trans to conservative cis people. Saying that their brain developed as a male but their body developed female or vice versa is something that is easy to understand. People who try to be open minded but tend to be conservative aren’t going to be convinced by “transmedicalism is rooted in colonialism” or “gender is a construct and so nothing really matters or means anything. We’re all going to die so if being called ‘he’ makes someone happy, who cares?”
    Anyone have ideas on how to explain trans identities to cis people who don’t understand that doesn’t fall into transmedicalism?

    • @mars-dy8me
      @mars-dy8me 3 года назад +29

      You can still try explaining the general idea that some people's identities/genders don't match how you perceive their body, but yeah I definitely get how it's less "convincing" without the "medical" support. That's kind of the whole problem with transmedicslism though, it exists to make transness more appealing or understandable to cis people, when that really shouldn't be the goal. I don't now that there's really any easy way to explain this to (conservative) cis people, other than just trying to educate them more on gender as a whole or at least get across the idea that they can respect other people even if they don't understand them.

    • @katie6384
      @katie6384 3 года назад +19

      I think as well the argument that "gender is a social construct" can be really hard for people (myself included to be honest) to fully get. I am not transmedicalist at all, but I do think some people do have an innate sense of what their sex should be. I have a friend who is trans and from such a young age she would tell her mum her penis wasn't hers (obviously not in those exact words), and she's also said that she truly thinks even if she'd grown up on a desert island with no one else around she still would have felt body dysphoria. Maybe there's a difference between gender identity and the innate sense of which sex you are, but I think maybe some people view those things as the same, which is why there's such push back to the gender is a social construct thing - because it directly disagrees with some peoples perception of their own lived realities.
      I also think some people see gender non-conforming people who don't have gender dysphoria identifying as non-binary as reinforcement of gender stereotypes and roles, which maybe leads them into terfy territory.
      I don't know, the whole thing is very confusing and I think the best strategy is to just let people live their life the way that is most comfortable and fulfilling to them.

    • @yukiandkanamekuran
      @yukiandkanamekuran 3 года назад +7

      They have to learn that it's okay to be uncomfortable and to feel awkward, that they don't need to understand to accept others. That there is no shortage of love for people in the world. The fact that people think there is a shortage is brainwashed bullshit.
      There's nothing wrong with accepting others, and having compassion for others will only be a benefit.
      And if they don't have compassion at all for others, then let them know that this oppression that's somehow benefitting them won't benefit them forever, and they'll get what's coming to them eventually.
      You don't owe them your time, and you can walk away. Unless if they're your family, and I don't recommend bothering at all unless you want to help them be compassionate.

    • @kaiyodei
      @kaiyodei 3 года назад +2

      and then you get those nutty xenogenders that look like someone takes their zodiac sign way to serious. "beign trans is like being a leo that feels like a tarurs that feels like a broken train it's gender it has science to back up"

    • @kaiyodei
      @kaiyodei 3 года назад +2

      "Im yellow but everyone says I'm a green, I don't feel green"

  • @vampirepossum8544
    @vampirepossum8544 3 года назад +85

    Tbh I was so unbelievably miserable and angry when I was a trans med, I was highkey lashing out because of my rly rough start when I frist came out

    • @mossypawprints
      @mossypawprints 3 года назад +12

      Yeah, looking at their subreddit I can see how much hate they have for themselves. They also project it onto others, even when they don’t understand the identities they call “transphobic”.

    • @starnathanstar
      @starnathanstar 3 года назад +6

      @astronomanov Same here! Ever since I realized how bad transmedicalism is, I've become a much happier person. I stopped doubting myself for not wanting to be a generic manly man and started being accepting to people who are GNC, enby, have xenogenders or neogenders, and use neopronouns or xenopronouns. I actually have three sets of pronouns now (He/Him, Xe/Xir, They/Them) and strive to be GNC by wearing light makeup from time-to-time and wearing feminine clothing like crop tops, skirts, long socks, fishnets, heels, and platform shoes.

    • @ShukaHusk
      @ShukaHusk 3 года назад +4

      @@mossypawprints we have no hate except for transphobes like Ashton

    • @mossypawprints
      @mossypawprints 3 года назад +7

      @@ShukaHusk sir-

    • @ShukaHusk
      @ShukaHusk 3 года назад +1

      @@mossypawprints what

  • @LP-xg9bl
    @LP-xg9bl 3 года назад +84

    I’m cis and I didn’t really know any better a few years ago when I watched trans-medicalist youtubers because I was pretty young. Yet now I understand how harmful those ideas were for the trans community. Thank you for helping to educate people like me!!

    • @finnyboy6193
      @finnyboy6193 3 года назад +10

      Thank you for working towards being a better ally! It’s very much appreciated.

    • @finnyboy6193
      @finnyboy6193 3 года назад +10

      @@jordanfires9777 that’s not how it works. If someone says they’re cis, they’re cis. If they say they’re trans, they’re trans. No one has to be trans just cause they wear a dress. But trans people CAN wear whatever they please. It’s pretty simple. Mind your own business.

    • @finnyboy6193
      @finnyboy6193 3 года назад +1

      @@jordanfires9777 lmao, whatever you say Jordan.

    • @finnyboy6193
      @finnyboy6193 3 года назад +7

      @@jordanfires9777 no. I never brought up medical transition. If someone announces themself as trans, I (like any normal person) would simply believe them and refer to them as what they want me to.

    • @finnyboy6193
      @finnyboy6193 3 года назад +8

      @@jordanfires9777 no they don’t. Transphobes are transphobic no matter what. That’s no one else’s fault. Don’t blame the community for others hatred. That’s just bs.

  • @niseeo1201
    @niseeo1201 3 года назад +24

    I haven’t seen this experience discussed yet, but I was never a trans med and always knew I was genderfluid but still have those ideas ingrained into me. It’s probably cause I am medically transitioning and people often perceive me as a women, which should be validating but isn’t since i’m not one. I’m just really femme lol. Yet since i’m perceived that way people just say awful shit which i internalize or see it online, but don’t know how to get rid of those negative perceptions of others. Any insight or similar experiences are very appreciated!

  • @Psychangelix
    @Psychangelix 3 года назад +71

    I understand where transmedicalism comes from- as in keeping it medicalized so the government can pay for any medical treatment you wish to pursue. But I’m realizing lately that that’s because of capitalism. And transmedicalism is inherently ablist

    • @ShukaHusk
      @ShukaHusk 3 года назад +13

      Nah transmedicalism is NOT classist. Unlike anti-transmeds, we care about ALL trans people and we understand when someone can't transition properly.

  • @Ashurion-Neonix
    @Ashurion-Neonix 2 года назад +7

    I've always hated ND invalidation. While it is true that my autism may be the reason that I identify the way I do, It's also the reason behind every unique part of my personality/interests that could've been affected by the way I experience the world. To put simply, I'm pretty sure most people would'nt have certain aspects if their brain was wired completely differently. It's just how brains work.
    Most of the whole "Your invalid because you are X" thing comes from people who consider those groups inferior to the point in which they see them as unable to make their own decisions. It makes a lot of sense that in western society this is targeted at specific minorites, considering the history of colonialism, and even things as simple as Industrialisation meaning anyone marginalised, especially those less able, get branded as useless and inferior. It's no coincidence that physical strength, ableness, and race play a lot into this and it infuriates me. Sure, I'm autistic and have a bad physique, doesn't make me less of a person. Neither does it lessen anyone from a marginalised community, it only does in other peoples minds, and who are they to decide how valid someone is.

  • @ekkso5630
    @ekkso5630 3 года назад +8

    Not all trans people are even ABLE to medically transition. For example, trans people with certain subtypes of Ehlers Danlos Syndrome are at major risk of complications with any surgery due to tissue fragility, delayed healing, and propensity to abnormal scar development. For them, a nonbinary experience may be the only one available. The more we make trans spaces gender-spectrum inclusive, the more we also embrace people with disabilities and medical conditions.

  • @arson6974
    @arson6974 3 года назад +17

    Hey Ash! I love this video so much, I think it's very important to combat transmedicalism, silence it's complicity. But besides this, I was wondering if you could make a video about punk history, I'd love to see that from you!

  • @broski9938
    @broski9938 3 года назад +11

    19:32
    This!! I'm genderfluid, genderfaunet, bisexual and demisexual. And my cishet friends will ask me about gender stuff and *every time* I have to explain it again and again.
    But oh no, not with the correct micro labels. Just non-binary and bisexual.
    They still come out with "but doesn't bisexual mean there's only two genders?!1!?" bulshit every other week.
    Send help ;-;

    • @juliuspearson4202
      @juliuspearson4202 3 года назад +3

      ask them if bilingual means only two languages. and biracial

    • @dizzydizzy8139
      @dizzydizzy8139 3 года назад +1

      i dont mean to sound rude but if they say things like that then they dont seem like good friends

  • @aqueercommunist
    @aqueercommunist 3 года назад +51

    apparently ppl who identify as a xenogender are called xenic

  • @Creature7777
    @Creature7777 3 года назад +36

    I am early!!!
    Can't wait to know how to fight transmedicalism! :)))

  • @lizardabyss7035
    @lizardabyss7035 3 года назад +35

    It seems like transmedicalism is slowly losing power over time; I always viewed it as essentially a conservative/reactionary view of transness, a way to integrate it into society that is as uncontroversial as possible. However, society moves forward and the world is learning to be more open to different gender identities, and fundamentally conservative ideologies such as transmedicalism will be left behind gradually. Also does anyone think the era when most of the big trans youtubers were transmeds was kind of the trans "anti sjw" phase? If that makes sense.

  • @princesskk6963
    @princesskk6963 3 года назад +28

    I AM EARLY
    (Edit thanks for so many likes)
    (2nd edit thx for lots or likes love you)

    • @pearlm1084
      @pearlm1084 3 года назад +2

      THIS IS THE FIRST TIME IVE EVER BEEN EARLY AND IM SO HAPPYY

    • @princesskk6963
      @princesskk6963 3 года назад +2

      @@pearlm1084 yay well done

    • @pearlm1084
      @pearlm1084 3 года назад +1

      @@princesskk6963 haha thanks
      /gen

  • @JadeDRail
    @JadeDRail 3 года назад +18

    I love the eyebrow piercing.

  • @Sabagegah
    @Sabagegah 3 года назад +13

    Dang, this dude’s makeup is getting more and more like T H E V O I D.

  • @jamesbw2
    @jamesbw2 3 года назад +19

    havent seen the video yet but um in the middle of a a dysphoric meltdown and i dont know how to stop because its constant and i cant take it anymore

    • @thebookwormhotel5336
      @thebookwormhotel5336 3 года назад +1

      Any way to help mate?

    • @jamesbw2
      @jamesbw2 3 года назад +1

      @@thebookwormhotel5336 idk what to do, i don't know how to help myself it just never stops and i don't know why

    • @gh0stb0y48
      @gh0stb0y48 3 года назад +1

      Maybe talking with other trans people can help? Talking w trans friends helped me a lot! :)

    • @romancarlise4738
      @romancarlise4738 3 года назад +12

      if it's physical dysphoria, try wrapping yourself in a blanket like burrito.

    • @beep3242
      @beep3242 3 года назад

      What from of dysphoria are you feeling right now? I may have some coping mechanisms if you need them. Talking to other trans people does tend to help

  • @drenandtarb
    @drenandtarb 3 года назад +10

    Thank you for this, the other day my transwomen friends were talking about how gender dysphoria has effected their lives, I related to some of the things they said so much, but I had to hold my tongue because I'm scared that telling them I'm a demi-girl and not a cis woman would be somehow offensive to them. I used to watch Blaire White a lot and she's scared me off of being open. I'm glad for this video because now I am feeling more brave to speak up.

    • @drenandtarb
      @drenandtarb 3 года назад +7

      Update: I managed to tell them, and they accepted me! :D

  • @jortslesbian
    @jortslesbian 3 года назад +10

    I was always iffy abt transmedicalism it always seemed so icky I think the fact it was hard for me to accept either transmedicalism or inclusivity was part if getting over general internalised transphobia I got from abuse so it just took me a while to start to learn about trans issues because as soon as I came out I only knew who I was, a girl/ trans femme but my dad would always gaslight me by saying “oh you got this from online *insert slur*” when I was a young kid who actually had no idea how to navigate the internet to even get info on trans topics

  • @juliuspearson4202
    @juliuspearson4202 3 года назад +11

    the fact that most of the truscum/transmeds ive seen in the comments have been patronising and creepy and gross is really telling

    • @em9325
      @em9325 3 года назад +3

      its because this comment section is full of lies, i've been both a tucute and a truscum, and niether of them are like what the other says.

  • @mars_starz420
    @mars_starz420 Год назад +4

    Thank you so much for this video, transmedicalism really stressed me out and it feels good that other people are talking abt it.

  • @nono-gw7qm
    @nono-gw7qm 3 года назад +14

    Any advice for cis people in lgbt+ spaces where the transmed vs tucute often comes up? I obviously don’t want to speak over trans people, but I feel like the trans people who don’t believe in transmed ideology are too afraid to speak up. Should I just talk to them afterwards and tell them I’m there for them? Or would that seem like I don’t want to defend them in front of the others? I hate it when people only support me in private and I don’t wanna give off that vibe. But at the same time I don’t wanna speak over the trans people that believe in transmedicalism.

    • @beep3242
      @beep3242 3 года назад +3

      Do you have any nonbinary/gender nonconforming trans friends? If you do I'd ask them. I can't really give advice on that because I'd personally defend myself, but I know other transgender people aren't comfortable doing that.

    • @maintubeTV
      @maintubeTV 3 года назад +2

      Definitely a hard situation. With the whole "too afraid to speak up" thing, it depends on the person. I can see where you're coming from though, I definitely know people in my community who would be scared of backlash. It's an incredibly real thing.
      I'd say that it'd be best to talk to them afterwards, let them know that you're there for them. It would probably be a good decision to just ask what they want you to do, show them that you're willing to speak up for them. If they want you to do anything (which they may not and you should respect that), then talk about it and go from there. Best of luck

    • @mars-dy8me
      @mars-dy8me 3 года назад +3

      If you don't wanna directly counter transmed arguments so you're not speaking over a trans person saying those things, you could try just making it clear that you support all trans/nonbinary people regardless

    • @yukiandkanamekuran
      @yukiandkanamekuran 3 года назад +4

      You can be like "hey, I don't feel comfortable with putting down others just so people may be accepted. I accept all types of trans people and trying to argue people's existence is awful. So if you want to do that, don't do it in front of me."
      Basically be assertive and protective. Show that this shit isn't okay. That even if you're cis, you don't like it. You have to enforce a space for others to exist.

    • @kaiyodei
      @kaiyodei 3 года назад

      pretend there is no science behind being transgender and plural

  • @quasi8180
    @quasi8180 2 года назад +3

    I was against neo prounouns for the longest time cause of channels like vaush and kalvin garrah but I get the idea of them.

  • @LuxanderReal
    @LuxanderReal 3 года назад +6

    Been subscribed for a while and finally watched one--only halfway through but holy wow. You articulate things so clearly and I vibe with your personality, appreciate you!

  • @nebaidossarkans3306
    @nebaidossarkans3306 2 года назад +5

    I *had* to say some transmedicalist stuff to my mom when I first came out to her. She reacted very badly to the news and I honestly wasn't expecting that. So that was the only way I could think of for her to accept taking me to therapy. My psychiatrist was super awesome and explained to my mom that I wasn't sick. However my mother never accepted it. Any of it. She hated the psychiatrist and did not allow me to see him again.
    So... Idk why I am saying this.
    Just sharing my experience with transmedicalism I guess.
    I'm sorry.
    EDIT: I am not transmedicalist. I was just very scared.

  • @princesskk6963
    @princesskk6963 3 года назад +9

    FIRST
    (Edit thank you for so many likes love you🥰)

  • @wwttgy
    @wwttgy 3 года назад +18

    i recently started using neopronouns and i didnt realize pronouns were supposed to be/could be this comfortable and i am Very Happy

    • @cottontaelle
      @cottontaelle 3 года назад

      what are your neopronouns .///. i bet theyre neat

  • @lilumartini
    @lilumartini 3 года назад +5

    Hi! A cis here, Just came here to learn. And learn i did! Thanks! :D

  • @doctora.snakeman1427
    @doctora.snakeman1427 3 года назад +8

    Ashton always uploads at the perfect time
    *[Every time is the perfect time]*

  • @zombiedude9826
    @zombiedude9826 3 года назад +21

    Ooh yess I’ve got some stuff to do and I can have this in the background. Love ya dude!

    • @nicotheniner
      @nicotheniner 3 года назад +6

      Me every single time they come out with a video

    • @Creature7777
      @Creature7777 3 года назад +3

      I like to draw when I watch these

    • @nicotheniner
      @nicotheniner 3 года назад +3

      @@Creature7777 yeah I either draw or sew

  • @Wisteria64
    @Wisteria64 Год назад +3

    My transmedicalism left my body basically the moment i re-accepted that i was nonbinary back in 2019. It was ALL self hatred that made me believe that stuff

  • @ispeakforthetrees9453
    @ispeakforthetrees9453 3 года назад +4

    Thanks for this video!! This has been so helpful for me cause I honestly hadn't thought about the racism n abelism rooted in transmedicalism n now imma research as much as possible n find out more n educate myself more :)

  • @krispy2114
    @krispy2114 3 года назад +11

    ONE MINUTE AGO??? LOL HII

  • @a5hmustd1e
    @a5hmustd1e 3 года назад +11

    yayayayayay ashton uploadedddd!

  • @87654321j
    @87654321j 3 года назад +4

    I've never heard of this it was fascinating to learn about this always down to learn new things 🙂❤️🧡💛💚💙💜🏳️‍🌈

  • @lucylightbringer
    @lucylightbringer 10 месяцев назад +3

    You're appropriating a medication condition that other people have. Eyeliner is fun tho.

  • @Loboto_Mia
    @Loboto_Mia 3 года назад +6

    amazing video 👌👌👌💕

  • @stasacab
    @stasacab 10 месяцев назад +3

    As a transmedicalis, you can talk as much as you want, i don't care.

  • @rinwei9752
    @rinwei9752 3 года назад +8

    Podcast vibes

  • @skyepollard5951
    @skyepollard5951 3 года назад +13

    :D
    My it/they self loves it when my favorite he/they posts a video!
    I had no idea that transmedicalism was so closely tied to colonialism, I knew that enforcement of the binary was, but I had yet to connect those two things, so thank you so much! I literally just spent an entire semester researching and writing about the ways that christo-european colonialism has harmed and still does harm gender diverse communities and for some reason it never occurred to me that transmedicalism was part of that.
    Goes to show that we're always learning! Thank you!

  • @seretonindealer9440
    @seretonindealer9440 3 года назад +5

    Oh I've been waiting for this. Makeup looks awesome in the thumbnail!

  • @-thisaccountisdead-3422
    @-thisaccountisdead-3422 3 года назад +5

    Great video! Also side note: your hair and eyebrows definitely gives me Frances 4ever vibes and its great

  • @romancarlise4738
    @romancarlise4738 3 года назад +6

    Hi Ashton! I think you're pretty cool!

  • @eli-tx6fc
    @eli-tx6fc 2 года назад +3

    you are the trans youtuber i desperately needed when i first came out, and now three years into my transition journey i am so blessed to have come across this channel. thank you very very much :D

  • @jayson6222
    @jayson6222 3 года назад +4

    this was a really well worded and educational video just like always!! im nonbinary and 13 years old, and you are a huge inspiration to me! thank you for fighting for our community

  • @gio9674
    @gio9674 3 года назад +4

    Not the subject of the video but this cute make up has Mettaton vibes

  • @cottontaelle
    @cottontaelle 3 года назад +6

    HELLO TO THE PPL OF THIS COMMENT SECTION,,, since yall are anti transmed id just like you to know one of my friends uses ▒/▒s pronouns! & whatever youre seeing on your screen is probably right! i just think its pretty cool of ▒ and very powerful DHSJKG!!!

    • @i.j.morrow4925
      @i.j.morrow4925 3 года назад +1

      how do you say that in real life lmaoo

    • @cottontaelle
      @cottontaelle 3 года назад +1

      @@i.j.morrow4925 you dont

    • @StefanieBounder
      @StefanieBounder 3 года назад +2

      That better be a joke because it’s really funny either way

  • @cosmicrows
    @cosmicrows 3 года назад +4

    off topic but love the ace flag colors makeup look!!

    • @graveyardpansy
      @graveyardpansy  3 года назад +2

      hehe it wasn’t entirely on purpose but they’re some of my favourite colours!

  • @cookiiecats
    @cookiiecats 3 года назад +3

    i hope this is appropriate to ask here gjdk this is my first time hearing that some nonbinary people dont id as trans. im nonbinary and i thought nonbinary fell under the trans umbrella so im rlly curious on why, can someone explain to me ? ^^;

    • @graveyardpansy
      @graveyardpansy  3 года назад +2

      it does fall under the trans umbrella, but some ppl just don’t claim it as an identity! often i see ppl w specific cultural identities using just those as gender descriptors and not using trans, and I know quite a few nonbinary ppl that just don’t resonate w the word trans. it’s individual and not everyone is comfortable describing their gender im the same way !

    • @cookiiecats
      @cookiiecats 3 года назад +2

      Ashton Daniel oh okay i see !! ty for explaining :D (and responding so fast haha)

  • @dogbunnycat6083
    @dogbunnycat6083 3 года назад +2

    thanks for introducing me to transness in a non harmful way. you were the first trans representation I actually had, and you seriously saved me from ever becoming a transmedicalist and living in a constant state of dysphoria. :))))

  • @ivysaur2305
    @ivysaur2305 3 года назад +3

    I like the idea of the video but I wish this video had more tangible tools I could use. I would have loved to have counter statements I could use against potential arguments.

    • @realemmcee
      @realemmcee 2 года назад +1

      He included a bunch of resources in the description, including other videos and peer reviewed journals.

  • @Itri_Vega
    @Itri_Vega 2 года назад +2

    I think what resonates with me to this day is the realization that a lot of the people transmeds make fun of and attack are, just like you said in the video, often non white, neurodivergent and/or fat, or stand out in other ways (bright hair colours, lots of piercings, a certain pitch of voice). I'm a person of colour, neurodivergent and have an alternative style so I'm way more drawn towards spaces that accept xenogenders and gender non conforming self expression. When I realized that I don't have to match the white, binary concept of what a trans man is, or what it means to be masculine, I felt a lot more cofortable to express myself (for instance, by still wearing nail polish and by combining clothes that have a more masculine cut with more femininely coded cuts), even though I am still not sure if I am transmasculine non binary or a trans man (and frankly, I don't think it really matters, I am me, and knowing that I am not the gender that I was assigned at birth is enough for me.) Transmedicalism and its narrowminded offshoots actually worsen dysphoria and apply a pressure on people who just came out, even though coming out is supposed to be an act of liberation.

  • @juleebaer8424
    @juleebaer8424 3 года назад +9

    Yay third!

  • @Kay-bl5xt
    @Kay-bl5xt 3 года назад +6

    wow i am early

  • @shouldacomewithawarninh4974
    @shouldacomewithawarninh4974 3 года назад +7

    Hi ur amazing 🤩

  • @kronlund420
    @kronlund420 3 года назад +2

    thanks Ashton, this was helpful, informative, and interesting.

  • @dupadebowa7405
    @dupadebowa7405 3 года назад +3

    🦇Thank you for talking about this.🦇 I used to believe in trans med stuff when i was younger and it definitely had a negative impact on me. I realized how shitty it is and now im ready to fight it 🗡️😳

  • @pitdrum5737
    @pitdrum5737 3 года назад +9

    First like :D and comment lol

  • @leohdayo
    @leohdayo 3 года назад +2

    I kinda wish I could get more involved in local communities, but I'm just too scared of people in general
    And some of them seem to still randomly discriminate (if you can call it that), which I don't understand at all
    I can't really seem to find a place where I feel that I belong and that makes me awfully sad

  • @pixishooter
    @pixishooter 3 года назад +2

    i love your videos so much theyre super informative

  • @leakypfaucet
    @leakypfaucet 3 года назад +6

    New vid yaayyyy

  • @bluewisdomtriforce
    @bluewisdomtriforce 3 года назад +2

    My first exposure to trans topics was through trans medicalism. And it meant I took forever to start presenting my gender the way I wanted to online. Because I didn’t want it too seem like I was making fun of ‘real’ trans people.

  • @peterpehlivan157
    @peterpehlivan157 3 года назад +2

    Came from r/PCM and stayed for this based content :D I think the way you approach issues is very well articulated. Your social intelligence is great.

  • @WallebyDamned
    @WallebyDamned 3 года назад +2

    Providing commentary as tribute to The Almighty Algorithm. Great vid!

  • @mommar4858
    @mommar4858 2 года назад +1

    What are some thoughts on a therapist who writes a letter of support and recommendation for a minor, only bc it's "requiered". Even thought the therapist thinks its ridiculous that they need a letter to receive medical services.

  • @laurxcv
    @laurxcv 3 года назад +2

    hey! i was wondering if you could talk about pansexuality vs bisexuality, the definitions and history and also the accusations of transphobia?
    i have heard/red a lot about it, and i often get accused of being transphobic bc i identify with the term bi.
    recently i have seen that the term pansexual is the transphobic term.
    i would love an intelligent discussion about this topic including trans folks.
    :) x

  • @AndesMints94
    @AndesMints94 3 года назад +2

    So I have something to discuss, it's kind of something that came about recently, and it kind of scares me. For starters, I'm AFAB, and have been seen as female for my entire life. I feel as if I have been questioning my gender a lot lately, especially after leaving an emotionally abusive relationship. I can't communicate with him anymore, but that's fine. I needed some time to reflect him, and now I'm working on me. About around July-September, I have been in two hospitals. The first one, I started switching personalities. Alex was one of the first ones to come out. He is like a protector, a bit sexist/misogynistic, and has a deep voice. Child or Sanders is one who is a positive little girl or child. Sanders is not sure of his gender yet. Goes by He/They. Renna is more difficult to understand, because, well, she goes by she/they, but is a drag queen and/or trans woman who dresses up gaudy. She can also be motherly too, like the Holy Spirit is to me. I'm working at Mc.Donald's and sometimes my boss would call me "woman" or "ma'am" but my brain wouldn't care and just block out those words. I feel like I wouldn't be working at Mc.Donald's for long, but I have mostly felt that while "woman" is something I've loosly identified with, it's not what defines me. And neither does man, however.... I've wanted to go by the name "Alex" in high school, but could never come out about it. Should I just come out as nonbinary and say by pronouns are they/them? Because I thought about using neo-pronouns, but are unsure about how they are pronounced. Got a list for that? I'm not sure if I want the name Alex too, because I still hold deep attachment to my birth name. Like if I rename myself Alex, I don't know what I'd call the other Alex inside my head. Andy is also something I thought about calling myself, although it seems too masculine somewhat. I can't get my gender marker changed in Michigan to X either. But that doesn't matter much to me, being nonbinary is also a deeply personal thing. Nobody knows what it's like to be me either. But... thanks for listening. :)

  • @246.jollie3
    @246.jollie3 3 года назад +2

    It’s cool seeing your style develop over time in your videos

  • @13gudadod
    @13gudadod 3 года назад +2

    Pathloliger( ?)how do even write that 😳

  • @noon6064
    @noon6064 3 года назад +4

    does transmedicalism just mean believing in gender incongruence

    • @graveyardpansy
      @graveyardpansy  3 года назад +4

      not exactly? i'd recommend the second link in the description for an overview of what transmedicalism is

    • @romancarlise4738
      @romancarlise4738 3 года назад +7

      'Transmedicalism is broadly defined as the belief that being transgender is contingent upon experiencing gender dysphoria or undergoing medical treatment in transitioning. Transmedicalists, sometimes referred to as truscum by others or by theirselves, believe that individuals who identify as transgender but who do not experience gender dysphoria or do not desire to undergo a medical transition-through methods such as sex reassignment surgery or hormone replacement therapy-are not genuinely transgender.'
      courtesy of wikipedia

    • @noon6064
      @noon6064 3 года назад +1

      @@graveyardpansy
      thank you

  • @danhardie3485
    @danhardie3485 3 года назад +2

    Hi! I don't really know where to ask this, but here seems like a good place because you all are hella accepting people that know a lotta gay stuff. I have a few friends that go by any pronouns and some that go by a few sets of pronouns. I always don't know what to use because I'm bad at life skills so I tend to use they/them, but what would be more helpful for them in general? I wanna make them all feel better in any way I can but pronouns in general are hard because I have small brain ngl.

    • @goldiemew1125
      @goldiemew1125 3 года назад +1

      It really depends on ur friend but I would saw that u use multiple pronouns. I mean you already did that in ur comment you referred them as multiple pronouns but ask them to really help only that person will know what they are comfortable being called !❤

    • @laneatkinson6441
      @laneatkinson6441 3 года назад +1

      Sounds like you're already doing a great job :) You're supportive of your friends and that's awesome! Don't be so hard on yourself ❤

  • @beep3242
    @beep3242 3 года назад +2

    I like your new haircut a lot :)

  • @rakas_kone
    @rakas_kone 3 года назад +1

    Ok, i know this is so unrelated and i'm sorry abuot that.
    But is it just me or does the video have another face half mixed with Ashton's at 1:34?
    If it's like a thing, sorry i'm new. It could be firefox getting cranky that i have like 12 VMs open; i literally don't know

  • @esoterica11.
    @esoterica11. 3 года назад +1

    it has nithing to do but I just found your channel and I really need to know your pronouns 😭😭

  • @goldiemew1125
    @goldiemew1125 3 года назад +1

    Do u have any links to information I'm really interested and I like to know about my own community and it's hard for me to find my own links so that will be appreciated it can be about anything trans related or something?

    • @goldiemew1125
      @goldiemew1125 3 года назад +1

      Oh theres also links! I'll check that out

  • @Alex-pn2hn
    @Alex-pn2hn 3 года назад +2

    Loooove ur hair rn

  • @eliomarechal405
    @eliomarechal405 3 года назад +2

    Not the topic but your hair are superior

  • @micky2708
    @micky2708 3 года назад +1

    Hey Ashton, great video! As someone who’s always seen the harm that trans medicalism causes and have been personally harmed it by I definitely agree with the points you made here. It absolutely makes sense to me that it’s an ideology that is tied to white supremacy, ableism, fat phobia etc. especially through seeing the trans folks who are most targeted by trans medicalists. ALSO yes! I’ve often felt unsafe in talking about it online and that translated into my fear of irl spaces (even just the GSA at my college). I still feel a bit unsafe online talking about my experiences online because of the shit I’ve seen happen but I’m working on that. And also yes! Being in my local queer spaces it’s been very welcoming. I haven’t been directly involved in my local trans community but I have been involved in my colleges GSA and just being at places that are pride adjacent. I have wanted to get involved in my local community but I still fear that I’ll be the odd one out. (More of a fear of jumping in on a group that’s already established friendships/feel like I’d be stepping on that). I think the most important thing you brought up though in terms of fighting trans medicalism (which you said) was the internal work of realizing how deeply rooted it is in white supremacy, ableism and fat phobia and then using that knowledge to combat it irl.

  • @TheMindIlluminated
    @TheMindIlluminated Год назад +3

    Yeah, so you’re saying you can just claim to be a thing in absence of the very real, physical experience that makes a person that thing? You think sexuality and gender identity are what, choices? Or intellectual exercises? So you are claiming to be transgender without actually experiencing being transgender. Dressing transmedicalism up as transphobia is absurd. If anything, you are being transphobic by essentially fetishizing their internal experience. This is just pure narcissism.

  • @castillooliveira9657
    @castillooliveira9657 3 года назад +1

    I love your video and your frank iero t-shirt 😔👏

  • @KatherineE47
    @KatherineE47 3 года назад +1

    Thank you for this informative video. Subscribed!

  • @breonnamckinney1987
    @breonnamckinney1987 3 года назад +2

    Just subscribed!

  • @lavendergraveyard6953
    @lavendergraveyard6953 3 года назад +2

    i have recently i learned that my friends are transmedists

  • @veganagev2062
    @veganagev2062 3 года назад +5

    ✊✊✊

  • @lyonclaws5737
    @lyonclaws5737 3 года назад +1

    unrelated to the video but you should create a patches and parley playlist

    • @graveyardpansy
      @graveyardpansy  3 года назад +1

      there is one! ruclips.net/p/PLRnz-UzDQAmLqOezCDum0ixFJ6RJPhfGc