Windy: 'NO DOUBT' Donovan Mitchell factored into Cavs firing J.B. Bickerstaff | NBA Today
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- Опубликовано: 22 май 2024
- Brian Windhorst joins Malika Andrews on NBA Today to make sense of breaking news that the Cleveland Cavaliers have fired J.B. Bickerstaff despite making it to the second round of the 2024 NBA Playoffs.
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You don’t even need a losing record to get fired anymore lol 😂
Check out his playoffs record
Nah bro, a winning record will get you fired these days😅
He has a losing mentality. We are tired of mediocrity
@@lockdownpublications3169 then yall need a better team he wasn’t the problem lol 😂
@@MrN3RD23 teams often take on the personality of their coach. The Cavaliers were too soft. Just look at the Knicks. Thibs, their coach, is tough and so is the team. Cavs coach is soft and so were they. Now, we need to get rid of a couple players too, but JB had to go. Let him go coach jump rope
Brings them from 22 wins to the second round of the playoffs. Gets fired. Disgusting.
Yall missing the point yes he did deliver record wise but pay attention to the games he did not deliver on 2nd half adjustments or good rotations
Is it disgusting? That seems a bit dramatic. He made millions coaching and will get paid for 3 more years for nothing and will probably get a nice assistant job somewhere too.. he will be ok.
Only scoring 100 four out of twelve playoff games will get you fired.
Not really this is the NBA…Darvin Ham was fired, Frank Vogel was fired after 1 season. And plus there was tension with him and the front office and the star player Donovan Mitchell
@jonv1776 what does him getting paid have to do with the disgusting politics of the business.
Disgusting firing. Had no business being even competitive against Boston with their injuries and yet they were. It was all coaching. He deserved a BETTER job.
You clearly don’t watch Cavaliers games. We scored 100 or more points in only 4 out of 12 playoff games this year. Only once last year. In the last four seasons, two which we had Donovan Mitchell, the highest rank we could get in PPG scoring was 20th. He’s a great dude and a really good defensive minded head coach (though his mindset of defend the paint at all costs ended up killing us in defending the 3 point line), but his lack of improvement as an offensive head coach is what cost him his job. Any person who follows the Cavs closely knew this was the likely outcome.
Watch the games
the quality of the coach exceeds the quality of the players.
Not always.
Not true at all
Yea, but who will they hire next. This firing was uncalled for. Let Doc Rivers or Thibs ruin your franchise.
@@CalebWilliams2030 Thibs is a great coach. His only problem is that he doesn't rest his players enough
Front office’s never wanna look in the mirror smh
When the Suns fired Vogel, that made sense. With a superstar and 2 star players you HAVE to make it past the 1 round....but this...firing a coach that got your team to the 2nd round with a mediocre roster? I honestly don't understand what more he could have done. Were the Cavs expecting an NBA title from this roster?
Coaches getting fired while still getting paid for the remaining years is a next level finesse
Facts 💯. I remember Charlie Weiss got fired from Notre Dame then got hired at Kansas and got fired 2 years later. He was cashing that Notre Dame and Kansas check
I think coach Brown once stacked 3 salaries
Being a coach in the NBA there’s always a risk and unfortunately if you’re not coach Pops or spoelstra you’re position is not guaranteed
Steve Kerr also
No guaranteed jobs in pro sports
Pop would have to fire himself because he is also the GM. So some jobs are significantly more secure than others.
Dwane Casey won coach of the year and was fired before he even received the trophy for it. Head coaching gigs went from a low job security thing to a straight out free for all ever since the then cuz somehow the Raptors got a chip by doing that.
@@kennethko1534David Blatt similarly too.
First time since 2018 the Cavs get to the semis or better and they fire their head coach that helped get them there from a rebuild. Pathetic
He did a great job leading the Cavs through the rebuild but to get to the next level they need a change. Plus the reports of losing the locker room don’t help.
They need a more innovative coach. Their talent led them to this point
You guys need to actually pay attention to the games if you’re going to make comments like this…
The truth is that JB never figured out how to properly use Garland and Mitchell or Mobley and Allen together. This really goes on the coach…
I’m sure JB would appreciate you words, but that is not the point.
He's been here for 6 years and we have yet to see any offensive progress from JB. Solid coach but we need more.
4? Idek
they need to pick either Donovan or Darius and then get rid on the other one. The Cav were great with one or the other on the court, but not both. I would prefer they keep Donovan and get rid of Darius.
Agreed. You can visibly see Darius is being held back. I believe Darius is a better fit.
Darius is a better fit but he never plays a full season. Donovan is the much better player but also doesn't fit. Trade em both u got the pieces to avoid a rebuild and compete with different "main guys"
@@RPYMCMBDarius is not leading us to a championship in any way shape pr form
Darius fits better
The national media ignored the Cavaliers all season. All year the media has spread rumours Mitchell was going to leave Cleveland and go to knicks or lakers. The NBA need to get rid of the homers on these shows and get analysts who can actually articulate why these coaches get fired. If you watched the Cavs you could see JB was lacking as a coach. He should be fired for just playing George Niag game after game,. Niag would play substantial minutes, throw up bricks, foul and get cooked by everyone he guarded. Enough is enough. Garland dribbling the ball in circles and then turning it over. it was a S show many nights.
Windhorst is from Ohio, he definitely pays attention to the Cavs and is tapped in, he talks about them on his podcast and other places
You must be new to sports media. Honestly, half of the rumors turnout to be true. You just have to sit back and let things develop. If the Knicks didn't make the second round or the playoffs in general, who's to say they wouldn't be in hot pursuit of Mitchell? He's certainly flirted with them off and on for a few years. The only thing keeping him in Cleveland is max money and the fact that it's his team.
Cavs fan and clevelander here nothing but facts here lmao Niang was cheeks
@@matthewm3869 fasho
They’ll pay for this watch and see 💯
For sure. DMitch won't re-sign. Players not going to stick around.
They can’t get any worse jb was not the reason they won im convinced y’all don’t watch the Cavs that man is terrible 😂
We always pay in Cleveland, doesn't matter, watch the guardians lose in the playoffs on some fluke
If you watched the simplicity of the Cavs offense and how easy it was to gameplan against coupled with the fact that Evan Mobley's development stagnated under Bickerstaff, and he couldn't figure out how to maximize the strengths of Donovan Mitchell and Darius Garland simultaneously, this firing should come as no surprise.
That had 48 wins and got to the 2nd round, sometimes...players aren't good enough that's ok , they don't do well when the lights bright garland Mobley and a
Allen have been no shows in 2nd round for 2 years in a row
If u go 7 games with Orlando then then ur not a good of player that u think cause the magic have 2 Scorers the rest of those guys were hardcore mediocre evb seen it
@@chez3869 They had 48 wins in a weak conference and got to the 2nd round because they played a team with zero playoff experience.
@chez3869 Jared Allen didn't play 5 of those games and they went 7 because they struggled to score in the halfcourt because their offense was EASY to gameplan against because it's so basic. And that is the coaches fault, the players don't draw up the plays. The players don't decide to run a middle pick & roll with two non- shooters taking up space on the strong side of the court. That's on the coach. The coach and his staff are supposed to develop Evan Mobley; they didn't. They're supposed to develop Okoro. They didn't. He got fired because anyone who watched the Cavs all season could tell you what plays they were going to run depending on what personnel was on the floor. If I know what you're running then then other team does too.
@@thomascrowniii1693 bro watchu want em to do they can't switch conferences, n so that's the hand they drew every team not finna play the best of the best ever first round playoff series 😂
the pivot of having to find a way to talk about the lakers was crazy "darvin ham, frank vogel, and now jb bickerstaff, so let's talk about los angeles because we mentioned darvin ham"
ESPN only know one team; they hang their entire show on LBJ's b*lls.
What coach is better to hire???
JJ Reddick obviously, he has "Pat Riley potential " according to the clownshow Lakers
😂@@jacobmcklowski4428
Atkinson/vogel/McMillan/dwane Casey. Someone like Chris Quinn or Micah Nori would be awesome. Borrego, I'm intrigued by just because of his sa roots.
I like Quinn
Yeah Casey helped my pistons get more lottery picks. Great pick up@@thankyoujodi
Donovan Mitchell likes to get people fired. He got the Jazz's head of medical training staff fired one year.
They deserved it and Mitchell not the only one who wanted jb fired the team did
DESPERATE FRSNCHISE SMFH
They don’t have a championship roster and they’re exiting the playoffs at the hands of the best team in the league. They’ve taken a step forward every single year. I just don’t understand what else you could ask of the guy
He trash
It wasn’t because of him bro don’t even call plays in close games it’s just Mitchell carry us
The biggest thing are reports of him losing the locker room. From players openly complaining about what is going on in practice, and in some cases leaving practice, to allegedly not putting any effort into the development of Mobley. His defensive sets were good but when it came to offensive sets he didn’t really have anything to maximize talent.
Mark Jackson
Blackballed!!!!!
Here is how to maximize Mitchell, tell him to pass more, use mobley in the post more and play some defense, ball movement= maximized.
Even tho Mitchell passing isn’t a problem jb has done none of the things you just said that shows how bad he is
It’s open season on coaches!
Cleveland need to improve the roster
He had 3 starters hurt in second round, no job is safe.
They weren’t good enough, and the coach gets blamed
Yeah cause I’m sure the team will make no other moves this offseason
@@nickmoorman6359 ok but explain how any part of their loss was bickerstaff's fault and not the fact that darius garland and donovan mitchell simply dont work together and that if they had a different coach, they somehow wouldn't have gotten outplayed by the best team in the conference
@@Jeremy-ot6pbterrible rotations don’t hold players accountable don’t call plays in close games blames refs for everything if we are being honest Mitchell carried that man
@@Jeremy-ot6pb in the 17 playoff games JB was HC the Cavs scored 100 twice. Both Don and Darius have had numerous excellent games alongside one another. He has 0 offensive scheming ability and relies way too heavily on pick and rolls. He can’t scheme and OOB play, and refuses to make Mobley a focal point offensively for 2 years now unless the team has guys out. Need me to continue?
They need to hire Agreementstaff
Y’all don’t watch Cavs games .. saying it was a bad firing is insane ..
Explain to us how it was good then?
You're right. Or they don't understand basketball
Nobody watches Cavs games
As a diehard Cleveland guy, I agree.. They celebrated defensive 3 seconds 😒 Allen needs to be the next one to go
NBA should let teams trade coaches just like the players 😅
THIS!!! and front offices too!
Al Davis traded Jon Gruden to the Bucs…
They do
The Celtics traded Doc Rivers to the Clippers
Teams can trade coaches. The Celtics trade Doc Rivers to the Clippers. They don’t because it’s disrespectful and finding a team with a similar situation with their coach is tough
Jason Kidd
He never figured out how to make that team work. Didn't figure out how to make the big men work or the guards.
WOW.
As a Cavs fan this was not “out of nowhere”. Every Cavs fan knew Jb was gone, he has been terrible in the playoffs and does many things bad. Things as simple as calling timeouts/ substitutions. Not to mention holding player accountable and getting the best out of them and lastly his play calling was TERRIBLE. So many times with the game on the line after a timeout his play was Garland driving to the rim and 90% of the time getting blocked… even tho he had 2 7 footers in the game (Mobley and Allen). He was good for the rebuild era but now we need an experienced guy who’s gonna help get our guys to the next level.
Cavs fans keeping saying that....I don't watch the Cavs, but the results are there. What did they expect out of this guy?? He got as much as he could out of this roster. There is no coach in the NBA that would have gotten this roster past the 2nd round....what coach could have gotten them past the Celtics? Cavs are lucky to make it to the 2nd round they should be congratulating this guy.
What a joke
The management will never take accountability, nor logic or reason. They're so high up there that they always need to find somebody to be their scapegoat.
What’s with the media defending every coach that gets fired? When fans know how bad the coaches are
None of those players on the cavs r championship caliber except max struss there's so many other players better than them at every position Mitchell never gon get a ring he is the newer derozan media want him to win bad it's just not gon happen
@@chez3869lmfao
LOL!! Because of all the rings Donovan Mitchell has, right? The notion the Bickerstaff is the problem is stupid.
@@blackspider1405I can tell you don’t watch the games 😂
Fans don’t always know. Most fans of most sports franchises always want their coach fired.
How do players have pull to get coaches fired? Jordan didn’t even do that
Lebron James with David Blatt.
Didn't he get Doug Collins fired?
@@Akronkangaroo bruh shut up
MJ got Doug Collins fired, but I guess don’t remember that 🤷🏽♂️
The roster is the problem and these organization should recognize that.
The Lakers should be RUNNING to JB Bickerstaff's front door, he's another Tyronne Lue who can make good food from a lack of ingredients but if you give him good ingredients he'll take you to the Finals.
Jb bickerstaff is literally the exact opposite personality/coach than Lue...JB bickerstaff is better compared to a early tom tbibs
Reasons why Bickerstaff was fired:
1) Mitchell and some other players lacked confidence in him as the coach going forward.
2) This was the 3rd straight season that the Cavs fell off after the All-Star break.
3) The front office didn't think he was doing enough to convince Mitchell to stay (despite Mitchell stating that he is happy in Cleveland).
4) Tanking the last game of the regular season, which reportedly annoyed the players.
According to Cavs fans:
5) His schemes, adjustments, and rotations were all horrible.
6) Garland and Mobley have not developed that well under him.
These are the reasons that I've seen given, not my own.
Unbelievable. I am a huge fan of that coach, and I don't even like cleveland. These players, man?????
Its Awful Coaching's constant critiques in action here....🙄
They where gonna smoke by Boston anyways so what’s your poiny
@@NyakzOTSD eye dunt no waat yu ar sang
fire the general manager for getting the cavs in this mess
Yet Bron gets called the Coach Killah
lol
Buddy he is the ultimate coach killer. Doesn't mean Mitchell shouldn't be clowned for this
@@jacobmcklowski4428kd is
@@jacobmcklowski4428kd brooklyn? And suns
@@jacobmcklowski4428 kd
Killah
lol
Cleveland next coach Frank Vogel or Sam Casell 🤔🤔🤔🤔
This is insane…..
Two bigs who can’t shoot and two undersized guards. The roster is flawed but the GM keeps his job after trading a haul for Mitchell.
Show me a roster that isn’t flawed
@@nickmoorman6359 how about this the starting five is flawed.
@@nickmoorman6359mobley needs to play center. Allen needs to go, they need like a prime Marcus Morris next to Mobley to shoot the 3 and bang bigs
How does “no neck” have any idea what Donovan is thinking?
Donovan is a great guy. Only way he would want jb replaced is if he felt there was no other way to improve until they had a different head coach.If Mitchel resigns in cleveland, the fans will go nuts and support him to a new level he hasn't seen. If he played until he was 40 he could break all the lebron james records. He's that skilled. 22k points is not out of reach because donovan can shoot the 3 late in his career. He might have 12-13 more seasons in him. He is a weight room junky like lebron
If anyone remembers David Blatt got fired after coaching the Cavs to the Finals in 2015. LeBron had a say in that firing too.
The development of Mobley and Garland also played into firing. I think it was time for a change
Tanking the last game of the season, when they had a chance for the #3 seed, didn’t help his cause.
James Beraggo never had a winning season
He had LaMelo on the bench and only started him when Terry Rozier and the other guard were injured.
When the player makes the owner fire the coach the team looks bad
So they would have us to believe that Donovan Mitchell a player with no stroke in the league is able to get coaches fired but the so called goat has never had anything to do with his coaches being fired
This firing was unconscionable
Teams like the Lakers,Wizards, Spurs, Hornets, Grizzles, Bulls, Nets, should be interested in hiring J.B.Bickerstaff in that order..........
Had them in the 4th seed for the last 2 seasons. Mitchell, Levert, & Allen were injured. Garland didn’t play great either. This is stupid.
Every single vid on any subject descends into talk about the Lakers about 35% of the way in. It's relentless
Itll be 11pm and espn will still run breaking news cavs fired their coach
I think this move definitely indicates they're gonna hold onto Spida and look to move on from Garland and Jarrett Allen
Me personally would have gave JB options, that obviously front office wasnt capable of doing. A few smart trades would put us right in pocket to take the next step towards winning the ship
Kyrie in the nets said: “we don’t need a coach”, and every team took that personal 🤣
Why would the Cavs fire him??? What has he done to be fired??? The Cavs didn’t have Allen in the 2nd round series and Mitchell got hurt after game 3
If you don't see eye to eye with your star player you don't keep your job in the NBA. Its been like that for a long time.
These owners and GM's have got to STOP letting these players run teams. It does not work.
He's under contract for three more seasons....he just won the lottery!
Cavs are trying to be sneaky, hire JJ, draft bronny and lure LeBron
Let’s go Doc!
People complaining why he got fired doesn't watch the Cavs regularly. This is the same reason Marc Jackson was replaced by Steve Kerr in Golden State.
lebron is comin back
Final farewell tour with his son drafted by them.
Just watch
Getting to the playoffs each year isn't enough. That was 90's mentality. In todays game, coaches are under more pressure to develop their players. The NBA is still a superstar driven league. If Donovan hinted at staying with the Cavs, if JB is gone. Then bye JB.
This has Lebron, written all over it.
Why are teams that we know even they know not winning a championship are firing their coaches?
Considering how underwhelming the roster has been, it's a miracle that the Cavs made the Playoffs at all. Sometimes the coach gets blamed for how poorly or lacking the team was constructed.
Let’s see if Stephen A and Wilbon goes crazy over this like they did with Ham
The man was one hell of a coach and I bet EVERY cavs fans is pissed beyond belief. Smh bad move for the cavs organization and they will feel his absence next season, bet.
But Bron has nothing to die with Ham firing according to windbag.
seems like JJ to LA confirm and JB and Vaughn can be his assistant
This guy actually has the highest winning percentage when he coached the Lakers, winning of 80 percent of his games.😅
They might as well let the players run themselves. What could possibly go wrong?
Coaches aren’t safe at all. You got coach of the years getting fired, championship coaches fired and coaches who lead turnarounds
nahhh, these are the same ppl saying oml fire bickerstaff just a week ago
When you loose your locker room as coach it basically over. You have player questioning you and your strategy or lack there of you are going to be on the hot seat. The cavs tanked to get the 4th seed and STILL WENT 7 GAMES! No other top 5 team went 7 games in the 1st round. He got out coached. Its the playoffs why are you playing only a 7-8 man rotation? Why is Okoro playing so many minutes and he is being effective? There's a list of things honestly Altman should be on the hot seat too!
so disgusting that in the NBA making the playoffs doesn't guarantee job security, JB was the most successful head coach of Lebron-less cavs teams
It wasn’t the coach smh. Mitchell hasn’t made it out the 2nd round in either conference. Meanwhile gobert is in the WCF.
They “can’t”officially speak with Donovan until “after” the Finals. Ok 😉.
Coaches that make it to the finals and even win the finals are fired within a couple of years. Has been happening for a while. Not a big deal
The idea that they are going to go out and find a better coach than Bickerstaff is shortsighted stupidity. Look at what happened to the Bucks. The Cavs might have just set themselves back another year or two.
The organization must have just caved to Donovan Mitchell threatening “it’s me or him”. I have doubts that he’s good enough to upend your entire team over.
What have you done for me lately? There's no loyalty. It's business, not personal.
Why would Cleveland allow Donovan Mitchell to have input on the coach getting fired? Who is he? Has he won championships?
Why do ppl take Brian windhorst serious ?
It would be very poetic to see another Cavs superstar take their talents to south beach 😂
doc rivers is the only option
Was probably Bron before he goes back 🤦🏻♂️
c'mon Cleveland Cavaliers coach is really great coach i hope Lakers hire him
Firing a coach like this is pathetic. They had Jarret Allen hurt and Donovan Mitchell hurt, what the hell do you expect to do in the playoffs?
At this point the league is running out of coaches. I don't know what these teams are looking for but phil jackson or pat Riley ain't walling thru those doors.
Cavs fire their coach, ESPN finds a way to make it about the Lakers
Gee, he must have forced them to worked hard and play together as a team🤣🤣🤣
Y'all don't watch games. They were out coached too many times. He didn't get the most out of Mobley
MaLikA's FAVORITE TOPIC....men getting fired
Me like the chain straps on that dress.
Stars control the leagues and coaches.... doesn't matter how good or bad the coach is... star players are more important.
These 5eams are crazy. Who they think their gonna get? They will return to irrelevance