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  • Chris ''Mad Dog'' Russo gives his Top 5 Point Guards of all time.
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  • @hidude6103
    @hidude6103 2 года назад +934

    He really critiqued Curry for “only having one chip by him self” but then puts kidd and mentions his one ring but we all know that was dirk🤦‍♂️

    • @100ovrbatmanbron7
      @100ovrbatmanbron7 2 года назад +17

      wouldn’t really say “that was Dirk” becasue Dirk didn’t carry them in the finals, they played well top to bottom

    • @joaobrito2653
      @joaobrito2653 2 года назад +70

      @@100ovrbatmanbron7 kidd was a role player on that team , the ring should not matter for any argument

    • @100ovrbatmanbron7
      @100ovrbatmanbron7 2 года назад +8

      @@joaobrito2653 true

    • @kaulingoulding8299
      @kaulingoulding8299 2 года назад +7

      What about Magic. He had Kareem

    • @pupeEETR
      @pupeEETR 2 года назад +9

      Magic and oscar ddnt win without kareem…

  • @craigwilliamson8167
    @craigwilliamson8167 2 года назад +1489

    I’m surprised he didn’t have Bob Cousy as his number 1. 😆

    • @scruffd0g193
      @scruffd0g193 2 года назад +21

      Said the same thing

    • @charlesc.b2435
      @charlesc.b2435 2 года назад +18

      Same, I was certain that he would.

    • @jblaze1336
      @jblaze1336 2 года назад +28

      Put some DAM RESPECT ON BOB COUSYS NAME , HIM AND J STOCKTON CONTROLLED THE GAME WITH THIER GREAT MINDS IQ , THEY OUTSMARTED THE BROTHERS WHO WHERE MORE GIFTED PHYSICALY , WE PLAY THE GAME FROM THE NECK UP

    • @okey7118
      @okey7118 2 года назад +57

      @@jblaze1336 he outsmarted plumbers and firemen

    • @moman3w
      @moman3w 2 года назад

      @@jblaze1336 interesting that you only named white guards

  • @nothingspecial8114
    @nothingspecial8114 2 года назад +303

    outside of leaving CP3 out of his discussion, the most laughable thing Mad Dawg said was downplaying Curry by saying he only won 1 title by himself then having Kidd over him cus he won 1 out of 3 finals and the 1 that he did win wasn’t even by himself. He was riding the coattails of Dirk. Even Jason Terry was more impactful

    • @nickpagano7134
      @nickpagano7134 2 года назад +4

      No. JT was not more impactful then Kidd. People really will just say anything.

    • @neatgarage5243
      @neatgarage5243 2 года назад +15

      And as great as Oscar was, he also never won without Kareem. Neither him or kidd where the best player when they won. Curry was the best on his team in 2015

    • @urbaindelva7869
      @urbaindelva7869 2 года назад +12

      Kidd did not ride Dirk's coattails. He was just as important to that team, especially during their championship run. Yes, he was the 4th or 5th most important player on the team, but that should not take away from him. Also, Kidd's Finals runs with the Nets occurred when the East was at a nadir competitively. Finally, NO PLAYER WINS BY THEMSELVES. THAT'S NOT HOW BASKETBALL WORKS.

    • @edwinestrada7205
      @edwinestrada7205 2 года назад +1

      @@urbaindelva7869 jj barea did his thing too

    • @kundakaps
      @kundakaps 2 года назад +3

      @@neatgarage5243
      Finals MVP Iggy

  • @mojomogul
    @mojomogul 2 года назад +314

    "Bob Cousy was an absolute legend, a literal blur on the court"
    -the firefighters who guarded him in 1954, probably 🤣😂

    • @nathanchristensen716
      @nathanchristensen716 2 года назад +10

      Never shot over 40% for a season in his career

    • @FupaDoncic
      @FupaDoncic 2 года назад

      Before lasik

    • @heatnix3223
      @heatnix3223 2 года назад +7

      @@nathanchristensen716 not a good argument, 50s & 60s % were down across the board because style of play and less developed shot mechanics...

    • @nathanchristensen716
      @nathanchristensen716 2 года назад +11

      @@heatnix3223 “less developed shot mechanics” sure seems like an argument to not be better then Chris Paul

    • @TheInferno0099
      @TheInferno0099 2 года назад +1

      Only the end of the bench guys were firefighters lol and that was only because the NBA didn't pay enough at the time

  • @luny2nez281
    @luny2nez281 2 года назад +635

    I think Jason Kidd is underrated. But Mad Dog just overrated him here 😭

    • @toxicreubz4856
      @toxicreubz4856 2 года назад +36

      massively

    • @murph4lyfe
      @murph4lyfe 2 года назад +26

      He did anything to keep cp3 out lmao

    • @luny2nez281
      @luny2nez281 2 года назад +18

      @@xavierb9061 Yea but he isnt better than Curry

    • @zachcoggins9018
      @zachcoggins9018 2 года назад +3

      He’s in the mix for 5 with CP3, Nash and Stockton.

    • @chrismyco7950
      @chrismyco7950 2 года назад +18

      jason kidd led two inferior nets teams to finals. and they lost against two dynasties.

  • @mazzlogic
    @mazzlogic 2 года назад +699

    Stephen A and Mad Dog were made for each other

  • @alfarouqaminufor3892
    @alfarouqaminufor3892 2 года назад +585

    One thing I noticed with the point guard discussion, nobody accounts for the defensive end. Arguably the greatest defender to ever play point guard doesnt even get an honorable mention. Gary Payton a 9x 1st team all NBA defender with a defensive player of the year award. He led his team to the finals with a 64 win record, just couldnt beat Jordan. Definitely top ten in my book

    • @suraceryan
      @suraceryan 2 года назад +51

      I agree he surely a top 10. But I don’t think top 5. In my opinion anyway.

    • @mikestone8756
      @mikestone8756 2 года назад +44

      Gary Payton Was a great defender but he’s not Top 5, certainly Top 10

    • @jacobcrsn
      @jacobcrsn 2 года назад +19

      if they cared about defense player of the year. Dwight woulda been in the top 75

    • @randyevans2049
      @randyevans2049 2 года назад +5

      He definitely top 10 but it’s hard to throw him in the top 5. But I agree with you

    • @ShawnBrown-qh4md
      @ShawnBrown-qh4md 2 года назад +3

      Gary Payton not even better then Westbrook.. stop it

  • @ALCORNbtone8912NtZ
    @ALCORNbtone8912NtZ 2 года назад +176

    I'M IN TEARS EVERYTIME MAD DOG SAYS BOB COUSY! 🤣🤣🤣

    • @trentirvin2008
      @trentirvin2008 2 года назад +6

      BWAWB CEWSY

    • @kofibabone725
      @kofibabone725 Год назад +3

      I spit out my juice 💀💀💀😭

    • @Times397
      @Times397 Год назад +2

      He was incredible....you may look a this highlights and laugh at his hook shots and one handed shots but stop and think for a second just how difficult those shots are to pull off....those were elements of the game then and he mastered them....had he been playing today he would of adjusted his style. Bob is arguably the greatest passer of all time...give him his respect. Plus, Bob was doing all of this without the trainers, coaches, resources, etc. that all of today's players have....Bob was ahead of his time.

    • @huwdavies-tallon3305
      @huwdavies-tallon3305 2 месяца назад +1

      The GOAT according to Mad dog

  • @ghostrisky6886
    @ghostrisky6886 2 года назад +506

    Man I may not agree with his takes but Mad Dog is entertaining😂😂

    • @timothymoore2966
      @timothymoore2966 2 года назад +13

      love his energy

    • @Jkev24
      @Jkev24 2 года назад +13

      Dude's a Boomer all the way, but he's unapologetic about it and that energy makes it fun.
      Also I would slide Curry to 2 or 3, but I would say that's actually a solid list he has.
      But damnit he's got to be trolling with Cousy haha.
      Also Jerry West is a 2 guard, no one thinks of him as a PG. I thought Stephen A was going to call him a hypocrite for Nash since Nash has never made a finals, but he came out of left field with Jerry west lol.

    • @ojmosby5755
      @ojmosby5755 2 года назад

      @@Jkev24 he just be joking when he bring up old name like Nate Archibald or Lou Hudson 🤣but they did have some game

    • @yosxhino3671
      @yosxhino3671 2 года назад

      @@ojmosby5755 who?

    • @nickpagano7134
      @nickpagano7134 2 года назад

      You must have a low iq

  • @TeamDaemon1980
    @TeamDaemon1980 2 года назад +95

    The way SAS describes CP3, it applies to Mad Dog. Every time Mad Dog shows up on ESPN on Wednesdays, the show gets better. Mad Dog has that charisma. Like you think he's delusional but it's not so mean-spirited like Skip back in the day.

    • @bye692001
      @bye692001 2 года назад +1

      I get what you are saying with Mad Dog and Skip's similarities.

    • @Potatoman023
      @Potatoman023 2 года назад +2

      It doesn’t get better lmao, its just horrible takes left and right.

    • @winstonsmith3370
      @winstonsmith3370 2 года назад +1

      He’s the Italian version of Stephen A, except more knowledgeable

    • @seowth
      @seowth 2 года назад

      He's aight, matches Stephen A's energy

    • @nortonman1178
      @nortonman1178 2 года назад

      Opposite for me. I generally can't stand watching his videos and only clicked on this one to see the top 5 list he had

  • @ryanrodriguez9201
    @ryanrodriguez9201 2 года назад +205

    I absolutely love mad dog. He infuriates Steven A. he for sure got WAY too much of a "back in my day" energy but its so funny cause it pisses off everyone on the show. People seem to write off everyone who played more than 20 years ago so it is a breath of fresh air.

    • @jamaloliver6940
      @jamaloliver6940 2 года назад +4

      So u think we write them off? So u think those guys better than steph

    • @owendaboss3858
      @owendaboss3858 2 года назад +2

      He’s skip bayless 2.0

    • @jamaloliver6940
      @jamaloliver6940 2 года назад +1

      @Dani G80 hes still listed as a mf pg 😂 just because he doesn't dominate the ball dont mean anything and the reason he dont dominate the ball is because he would be double teamed so the coach makes plays for him

    • @jamaloliver6940
      @jamaloliver6940 2 года назад

      @Dani G80 my guy I didnt say u knocked him I just told u he is a pg

    • @bobbysack254
      @bobbysack254 Год назад

      but when you watch the best highlights of the stars in the old days, even michael jordan, you can see that the things they did back then you see in most players these days. but if you watch the top highlights of current stars like lebron, steph curry, etc. they do things that are unbelievable that you would have never seen back in the day. also defensive coverages were a joke back in the day too

  • @Mojojojo824
    @Mojojojo824 2 года назад +22

    Bruh no way I’m ever ranking Jason Kidd over steph curry😂😂😂

  • @l.a.6337
    @l.a.6337 2 года назад +142

    Magic said that if you wanna learn play the point, watch Stockton
    His assists and steals records are unreachable and he didnt win a title cuz he faced MJ
    He is top 5

    • @jblaze1336
      @jblaze1336 2 года назад +6

      Reverse racism ,J Stockton was one of the greatest of all time top 3 ,4 but because he wasn't Flashy and dunking he gets disrespected

    • @moman3w
      @moman3w 2 года назад +27

      @@jblaze1336 Stockton isn’t better than magic, curry, Isaiah Thomas or Oscar

    • @eappleby9702
      @eappleby9702 2 года назад +10

      He didn't win cause Karl Malone couldn't hit free throws not cause he faced Jordan

    • @therightopinion4619
      @therightopinion4619 2 года назад +1

      He faced the Bulls

    • @mastermarcon8311
      @mastermarcon8311 2 года назад +6

      Stockton without Malone is worse than Magic without Kareem, Curry without Draymond/Klay, Oscar without Jerry Lucas, Isiah Thomas without Joe Dumars/Bill Laimbeer. You could argue he is #5 but Chris Paul, Steve Nash, and Jerry West are arguably better

  • @jeffreyrobison494
    @jeffreyrobison494 2 года назад +134

    I know he never won a ring... But are we going to ignore the brilliance of John Stockton? He has a steal and assists record that no one is going to touch.

    • @mucknar
      @mucknar 2 года назад +6

      since he became a crazy person... yes

    • @addielmoreau4469
      @addielmoreau4469 2 года назад

      @@mucknar crazy person?😂 I’ve been under a rock what he do?

    • @pslim68
      @pslim68 2 года назад

      He was mentioned so nobody forgot about him lol

    • @LeChina
      @LeChina 2 года назад +5

      @@addielmoreau4469 he spoke about the vaccine.

    • @ianmbanda3196
      @ianmbanda3196 2 года назад +1

      true, but remember he played with Karl Malone for about 20 years......if some like CP3 played with Malone for that long he would have close to the same records

  • @ashantinyongo7632
    @ashantinyongo7632 2 года назад +16

    “Even Curry” lmaoo he has more than everybody on that list except magic 😂😂

  • @somiels
    @somiels 2 года назад +29

    The way he said “Nash can’t coach” had me dead 💀

    • @MrGLites
      @MrGLites 2 года назад +1

      I was waiting to see if SAS was going to smirk

  • @tolopo99
    @tolopo99 2 года назад +179

    Mad Dog is one of the few able to out-talk Stephen A. These guys together are electric.

    • @LukasP143
      @LukasP143 2 года назад +8

      Yes but horrific takes lol. Purely entertainment

    • @tolopo99
      @tolopo99 2 года назад +1

      @@LukasP143 Your opinion

    • @anthonyauthentic7934
      @anthonyauthentic7934 2 года назад +3

      @@tolopo99 They said the same thing about max . Now he’s some intellectual god

    • @drb5003
      @drb5003 2 года назад +1

      Bob Cousey he used to dribble around the court with one hand.... 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @CamWick
      @CamWick Год назад

      @@drb5003 saying this is pretty idiotic they played in the 60’s the game evolves

  • @Akocnaid123
    @Akocnaid123 2 года назад +216

    To put steph at 5 is blasphemous. Curry at 2 is the most respectful you can do to him. One and only unanimous mvp.

    • @ucbucb30
      @ucbucb30 2 года назад +26

      Jason Kidd over Steph? 💀😭

    • @SA-cp4tw
      @SA-cp4tw 2 года назад +7

      Could put him 3 because he doesn’t have a finals mvp which he should considering how good he is but doesn’t take control in the finals oftentime . Yet the lowest u can put him is 3.

    • @AM_yadu108
      @AM_yadu108 2 года назад +2

      dude needs to win a finals MVP...come and talk then

    • @suneelj93
      @suneelj93 2 года назад +15

      That point is spoken like a new era fan that only looks at accolades and watches box scores.

    • @xavierb9061
      @xavierb9061 2 года назад

      4 better than curry as point..curry better than 4 off the ball

  • @seshadhri_s
    @seshadhri_s 2 года назад +108

    How does John Stockton not make any of these lists?! The guy leads all time in assists and steals!! Played both ends of the floor and he was essentially Chris Paul before Chris Paul.

    • @CapitalP177
      @CapitalP177 2 года назад +3

      Facts

    • @calthar13
      @calthar13 2 года назад +5

      He is white and lost two chips to Jordan.

    • @hug0addicted197
      @hug0addicted197 2 года назад +8

      He was better than CP3

    • @waunke56
      @waunke56 2 года назад +2

      @@calthar13 same reason why stephen A gets so mad about jason kidd. Now do i think he is 4th overall. Proly not but he was something curry never was and never will be. A really good defender. He was also big. Like Russel Westbrook big at 6'4 so he would wear someone like curry out in playoffs and would run him flat over in the post because guards use to know how to play post. Now its like smart, holiday, and Westbrook and thats about it.

    • @tonyj9743
      @tonyj9743 2 года назад +4

      Yeah Stockton never gets enough love. He was a fantastic defender, passer, and nobody ever ran the pick n Roll better!

  • @onyks077
    @onyks077 Год назад +11

    These two together are TV gold! Unmatched chemistry and the funniest arguments ever!

    • @cjizzle26
      @cjizzle26 8 месяцев назад

      Not better than him and skip. But they are good.

  • @nomurakenta2980
    @nomurakenta2980 2 года назад +65

    if you squint ur eyes, it looked like the good ol days with Skip and Stephen A

    • @kevsalinass6440
      @kevsalinass6440 2 года назад

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @odsdrummer
      @odsdrummer 2 года назад

      😹

    • @johncrrll3885
      @johncrrll3885 2 года назад

      I would take the toolbox from Texas over this guy.....
      Maybe
      Sorry, they both suck
      My bad

    • @shermandudley5548
      @shermandudley5548 2 года назад

      Mad Dog is just Skip with a New York accent

  • @Nick-pf5xo
    @Nick-pf5xo 2 года назад +92

    1. Magic
    2. Steph
    3. Oscar
    4. Isiah
    5. CP3/Stockton

    • @ItsDannysYT
      @ItsDannysYT 2 года назад +6

      You got it perfect

    • @tylerwest3161
      @tylerwest3161 2 года назад +9

      Isiah better then Oscar

    • @natutz
      @natutz 2 года назад +9

      Yeah there’s no way Kidd is better than Paul & Stockton!

    • @justingaines207
      @justingaines207 2 года назад +9

      isiah has to be the second best pg ever. he literally beat 4 of the top 10 players ever to get his rings

    • @007IloveNY
      @007IloveNY 2 года назад +5

      No way is Steph higher than Oscar, Isiah and Stockton.

  • @johnnydellangelo8749
    @johnnydellangelo8749 2 года назад +19

    I've always felt like Stockton is so underrated. NBA record for steals and assists and it isn't even close. He's the definition of a fundamentally strong point guard

    • @lucoffe
      @lucoffe 2 года назад +2

      Im glad someone said it, such a disrespect for Stockton. He is for me just a true Point Guard.

  • @nastywest
    @nastywest 2 года назад +19

    It doesn't matter where Cp3 is top 5 or not, Everyone got they're own list

  • @adidasboy3207
    @adidasboy3207 2 года назад +23

    Only UNANIMOUS MVP ever at 5? Nah

    • @bel4406
      @bel4406 2 года назад +1

      Playoffs is wher u become legendary unanimous so

  • @ZackFlairr
    @ZackFlairr 2 года назад +38

    Mad dog was trolling him 😂

  • @ralph.aguinaldomd
    @ralph.aguinaldomd 2 года назад +14

    I appreciate Mad Dogg's old school approach. A lot of the all time legends are underappreciated. That being said, he's a hypocrite for putting Steph Curry at 5 because he "only won one ring by himself" when he put the Big O and Jason Kidd above him even if they never won anything by themselves. Steph is definitely my #2 behind Magic.

  • @djboogieboy
    @djboogieboy 2 года назад +14

    These 2 together are gold!😂

  • @916plug6
    @916plug6 2 года назад +42

    Steph at 5 is crazyyyyy

    • @adidasboy3207
      @adidasboy3207 2 года назад +8

      Anything lower than 2 is stupid.

    • @samhopkins3610
      @samhopkins3610 2 года назад +2

      Anything lower than 2 and I can’t take u seriously. Yes I’m a warriors fan

    • @Oridginale24
      @Oridginale24 2 года назад +3

      @@samhopkins3610 So in other words, you ignore defense and leadership which Kidd has over Steph. Draymond is the real leader of the Warriors and Steph can’t defend like Kidd did.
      When Kidd was in his prime, his best teammates were Kenyon Martin, Richard Jefferson, & Vince Carter at the end of his prime. Those are good players but you can’t compare them to Kevin Durant, Klay Thompson, & Draymond Green.

    • @samhopkins3610
      @samhopkins3610 2 года назад +2

      @@Oridginale24 leadership is so arbitrary, you’re not in the warriors locker room so u don’t know that, and by all accounts Steph is a great teammate. Kidd is a better defender but Steph is 10x the offensive player that Kidd was. Is Marcus Smart better than Steph too?

    • @samhopkins3610
      @samhopkins3610 2 года назад

      @@Oridginale24 if someone right now said Mikal Bridges was better than Kevin Durant or Lebron they would sound like an idiot but he’s a way better defender. Is Kevon looney better than Jokic? He’s a better defender

  • @BusyWatchingYouTube
    @BusyWatchingYouTube 2 года назад +33

    This man is straight up comedy. Give the dude a contract on First Take!

    • @nortonman1178
      @nortonman1178 2 года назад

      Please no...

    • @kofibabone725
      @kofibabone725 Год назад

      Bob Cousy!!!! 💀😭💀😂🤣😂💀🤦🏾‍♂️

  • @vincew4297
    @vincew4297 2 года назад +21

    I’m thoroughly convinced they brought in Madd Dogg on First Take to just troll Stephen A. all show lol

    • @Mjuxtapose03
      @Mjuxtapose03 2 года назад

      I’m dead . Lol gotta love this guy

  • @Kairi420
    @Kairi420 2 года назад

    Great List !!!

  • @twcgoat4761
    @twcgoat4761 2 года назад +36

    1. Magic
    2. Curry
    3. Oscar Robertson
    4. Isiah Thomas
    5. Stockton
    6. Kidd
    7. Nash
    8. Tony Parker
    9. Cp3
    10. Westbrook

    • @joshualee5282
      @joshualee5282 2 года назад +9

      Tony Parker over Cp3? Idk bout that

    • @twcgoat4761
      @twcgoat4761 2 года назад +13

      @@joshualee5282 he’s got 4 rings and a finals mvp

    • @twcgoat4761
      @twcgoat4761 2 года назад +1

      @@The614zekebecause they played on worse teams then the spurs for a majority of their careers and have better individual accolades, for example Nash has 2 mvps and stockton is the all time leader in steals and assist bar far.

    • @twcgoat4761
      @twcgoat4761 2 года назад

      @@The614zeke not as big as finals mvp, if he wins one then yea he will move up but not till then

    • @twcgoat4761
      @twcgoat4761 2 года назад +4

      @@The614zeke also Lebron has 37k points and 10k assist so no cp3 is not the only player to have done that

  • @TheBayboy29
    @TheBayboy29 2 года назад +19

    Am I the only one that doesn’t get this whole CP3 thing… what has he won?

    • @gregorycostello6377
      @gregorycostello6377 2 года назад +4

      exactly and he punches dudes in the nuts in college and in the pros

    • @zackd9032
      @zackd9032 2 года назад

      You’re a casual then look at his resume and context of his teams and competition

    • @d8rinc
      @d8rinc 2 года назад +1

      facts 😂 he’s good and makes teams better, but he’s never won a chip. if he ever does win a chip then sure top 5 all time for me

    • @Nick-pf5xo
      @Nick-pf5xo 2 года назад +1

      He hasnt won much but so hasnt a lot of great point guards in the history as the number 1 option. CP3 has been the best player on contenders for most of his career, is a consistent 20+10 guy and is the true definition of point guard. I have him behind Magic, Steph, Oscar and Isiah and tied with Stockton at 5. Nash and Kidd also did not have much team success as the number 1 option on their teams

    • @JayZone23
      @JayZone23 2 года назад

      @@Nick-pf5xo Kidd much better as a leader and defender. only thing CP3 is better at is scoring. Kidd went to the finals twice though as the main guy with not much talent like cp3, stockton and nash had. Kidd more versatile, can play more off the ball and can defend multiple positions than those 3. he did defend kobe, lebron, durant, wade and westbrook during the 2011 championship run.
      I think if Kidd was in his prime with a prime Dirk. they could have won at least 2 championship.
      CP3 was in a very talented team in his days with the clippers, rockets and even new orleans but was unable to get to the conference finals until last year where most of the teams they faced were without their stars.
      Nash also had great talented teammates in his time with the mavericks, suns and lakers but he was a liability on defense and only emerge as a great player in a d'antoni type system.
      Stockton had malone most of his career. They were a great duo but stockton never carried a team like some of the best point guards did. Malone was the best player during those Jazz run in the 90s.
      1. Magic Johnson
      2. Steph Curry
      3. Oscar Robertson
      4. Isiah Thomas
      5. Jason Kidd
      This is the top 5 PG of All Time for me.

  • @TheHulkvswolverine
    @TheHulkvswolverine 2 года назад +48

    i’m really curious why walt frazier is never talked about as an all time great pg, won 2 finals and had some huge playoff/finals moments, but even the old heads i don’t hear talk about him and i figure there’s gotta be a reason

    • @FruitMonger360
      @FruitMonger360 2 года назад +5

      Yeah I wonder that too. Best I can tell he had a relatively short prime and never had the assist numbers that other PGs had. You would still think that the rest of his resume would allow him to crack the top 10 PG lists.

    • @brendanbloom3366
      @brendanbloom3366 2 года назад +2

      He's in the top 10.

    • @ewerdherrera636
      @ewerdherrera636 2 года назад

      He had a super great handle i watched those finals he was amazing suprised hes not talked about either he was really great one of the great players that can play in this era

    • @winstonsmith3370
      @winstonsmith3370 2 года назад

      Top 10 for sure.

    • @Michael_Page
      @Michael_Page 2 года назад

      Clyde!!! He really should get more love. He's basically Gary Payton with 2 rings.

  • @barefootcatfishjones944
    @barefootcatfishjones944 2 года назад +2

    This was a great list by Maddog

  • @BigBen1994
    @BigBen1994 2 года назад +11

    John Stockton has to be on their no matter what the all time leader in assists and steals and nobody is coming close to those records.

  • @changethechannel7225
    @changethechannel7225 2 года назад +19

    Most people who disrespect Bob Cousy I feel like have never watched a full game of him playing. Watching him I legit think he could’ve EASILY played today

    • @Muneeb08
      @Muneeb08 2 года назад +5

      It’s just another form of recency bias. No one will obv be able to completely tell whether he could play today but I guarantee most that disrespect his name have never even seen him play

    • @boonebeasley9622
      @boonebeasley9622 2 года назад +1

      Lol I’m better than him ur crazy

    • @markozbunjol625
      @markozbunjol625 2 года назад +2

      he is one of the greatest

    • @udithsethu552
      @udithsethu552 2 года назад

      He would be a good bench warmer today.

    • @blackanimelover18
      @blackanimelover18 2 года назад +2

      Nah man, dude couldn't even average over 40% from the field. He'd be a bench warmer in today's game, and this is coming from someone that actually respects the OG players.

  • @guyperfect4470
    @guyperfect4470 2 года назад +1

    Perfect list perfect honorable mentions

  • @gregajohn6732
    @gregajohn6732 2 года назад

    Nice video !

  • @rekhakiran1261
    @rekhakiran1261 2 года назад +11

    Curry is atleast 2nd if not on level with magic

    • @007IloveNY
      @007IloveNY 2 года назад

      LMAO ROFL

    • @wangvue5557
      @wangvue5557 2 года назад

      Nono

    • @michaelgregory2583
      @michaelgregory2583 2 года назад

      You must haven't ever played basketball with a dumb statement only thing Steph do is great is shoot the 3

  • @theotakusdiary9506
    @theotakusdiary9506 2 года назад +6

    1:26 That reaction is golden

  • @ZhengSW
    @ZhengSW 2 года назад +25

    Mad Dog is so funny! Great chemistry with Stephen A

  • @kurayahmi
    @kurayahmi 2 года назад +18

    *Mad Dog is the only reason I’m watching First Take*

  • @jamesbravo7693
    @jamesbravo7693 2 года назад +4

    Who is here after CP0 choked game 7 and now realized why Mad Dog didn’t put him on the list.

  • @ShawnBrown-qh4md
    @ShawnBrown-qh4md 2 года назад +5

    Jason Kidd the most unappreciated player of all time.. casuals basketball fans think u need to have to shoot 3 pointers like curry to be great.. Not understanding Kidd after magic Johnson was the greatest facilitator ever and can dominate a game without shooting a shot attempt

  • @joshuama6305
    @joshuama6305 2 года назад

    I love their energy!

  • @Kenandgratdiary
    @Kenandgratdiary 2 года назад +20

    Magic, Isiah, Curry, Oscar, Glove, Kidd, CP3, Iverson, Stockton, Luka when done playing 😂

    • @bgbambino
      @bgbambino 2 года назад +13

      Iverson was a SG during his peak. Snow ran the point.

    • @Kenandgratdiary
      @Kenandgratdiary 2 года назад +1

      @@bgbambino true, but because Stephen a considers Jerry West as a point, i just had to mention AI 🙏🏻

    • @brendanbloom3366
      @brendanbloom3366 2 года назад

      Magic Oscar IT Stockton Kidd GP CP3 Cousy Frazier KJ

    • @melanatedgod5337
      @melanatedgod5337 2 года назад +2

      Luka will be higher when he's done lol.

    • @elliottwilson2352
      @elliottwilson2352 2 года назад +1

      Iverson lol that's who yall be overrating

  • @diegovillaneda9788
    @diegovillaneda9788 2 года назад +42

    This is just a troll list 😂😂…except magic at 1

    • @mehdi1163
      @mehdi1163 2 года назад +3

      Most people have Oscar Robertson at 2 as well though

    • @verifiedyessir2534
      @verifiedyessir2534 2 года назад

      @@mehdi1163 bs

    • @Ben-dp7fx
      @Ben-dp7fx 2 года назад +7

      @@mehdi1163 most people who were alive after the 13 colonies have Curry #2

    • @julianclanton1204
      @julianclanton1204 2 года назад

      @@mehdi1163 no most ppl have curry

    • @mehdi1163
      @mehdi1163 2 года назад

      @@verifiedyessir2534 ESPN ranked best players all time last year, Oscar Robertson 11th , Curry was 13th. Most lists have Oscar ahead of Curry.

  • @pedrocorreia8774
    @pedrocorreia8774 2 года назад +8

    This aged very well for Mad Dog -- despite the bad list.

    • @kohsmoger1567
      @kohsmoger1567 2 года назад

      Curry at 5 is horrible

    • @jamesnelson5618
      @jamesnelson5618 Год назад

      @@kohsmoger1567 curry at top 2 is Better? Don't be Offensive.

    • @kohsmoger1567
      @kohsmoger1567 Год назад

      Steph is a top 2 pg don’t care what anyone says

  • @ScottParisi
    @ScottParisi 2 года назад

    Any clip, during which, Mad Dog presents a list is an absolute winner.

  • @nlord7
    @nlord7 2 года назад +2

    This is about what i'd expect out of a sports debate between two people from New York.

  • @adidasboy3207
    @adidasboy3207 2 года назад +11

    1. Magic
    2. Curry
    I don’t care about the rest.

  • @beazy3364
    @beazy3364 2 года назад +24

    1.Magic
    2.Steph
    3.Zeek
    The rest is up in the air.

  • @fmac0417
    @fmac0417 2 года назад +2

    Mad Dog knows his stuff man. Even if you disagree you can't say he doesn't know.

  • @BigTrisStreams
    @BigTrisStreams 2 года назад

    That list 🔥

  • @U2vl9v0
    @U2vl9v0 2 года назад +31

    Magic is basically consesus 1 IT is basically consensus 3. Most ppl have steph 2 big o at 4 then that 5th spot is debatable. The funny thing is that this list is actually good for mad dog standards🤣💀

    • @justingaines207
      @justingaines207 2 года назад +6

      it's crazy to me that. Zeek isn't automatic 2 like my dude beat Kareem, Magic, Michael the goat Jordan, Arguably the best forward ever Larry Bird, Prime Wilkins, Benard King and Patrick.

    • @jblaze1336
      @jblaze1336 2 года назад

      J STOCKTON IS A BETTER PURE P GUARD THAN CURRY , YALL GUYS WITH THIS REVERSE RACISM HAS TO STOP

    • @ryanlebard3787
      @ryanlebard3787 2 года назад

      @Justin Gaines …, Facts people like to say MJ went through all those teams … nah it was Isaiah

    • @bel4406
      @bel4406 2 года назад

      Most ppl do not have Steph at two u buggin

    • @DemonKing-oi4jd
      @DemonKing-oi4jd 2 года назад

      I have Zeke 2 behind Magic.
      Mostly young people put curry 2 because they don't know any better.

  • @chazobustos9586
    @chazobustos9586 2 года назад +5

    imagine having a top 5 PG list of all time and not having at least 1 or 2 of CP3, Stockton, or Nash....not having a single 1 of the 3 purest Point guards of all time

  • @bighawaii
    @bighawaii Год назад

    Man I love the mad dog and Stephen A chemistry. Just the reactions they give off each other is even funny af.

  • @nordictube8743
    @nordictube8743 2 года назад +2

    Love mad dogs List / take ! Jason Kidd Most underrated Player of all time !

  • @teagust
    @teagust 2 года назад +6

    Calm your horses. The list depends on who's making it. Mad Dog's list is about accomplishments and how the players rank compared to the other players in their own era.

  • @Zantar16
    @Zantar16 2 года назад +11

    Top 10 Point Guards
    1. Magic
    2. Curry
    3. Oscar
    4. West
    5. IT
    6. Kidd
    7. CP3
    8. Westbrook
    9. Nash
    10. Stockton

    • @tr1x8gaming27
      @tr1x8gaming27 2 года назад +2

      Kyrie lillard is not an HM

    • @yoboychris4149
      @yoboychris4149 2 года назад +3

      Don't disrespect Russ like that 💀 and west is a 2 guard

    • @waunke56
      @waunke56 2 года назад +1

      Until Kyrie can play for someone other than himself. I think him being on any list is disrespectful to anyone else on the list.

  • @igameguruistestchannel9682
    @igameguruistestchannel9682 2 года назад

    @3:13 “no ifs, and, or BUTTS” 😂😂😂

  • @danielpagan2848
    @danielpagan2848 2 года назад +2

    Even Jason Kidd would say the list is blasphemous for putting him ahead of Stockton.

  • @willbowden6897
    @willbowden6897 2 года назад +62

    Either have Curry #2 or don't have him on the list at all because he's not a true point guard, but don't keep him on the list and also penalize him for not being a true point guard.
    Also if you're talking about traditional point guards Stockton needs to be in the top 5. He lacked a lot athletically and he's damaged his legacy with the anti-vax stuff, but in terms of being a passer and a floor general he's easily in the top 5. So either go all in with guards who played the 1 and have Curry at #2 or go all in on traditional point guards and have Stockton way higher but Steph not on the list.
    This list just changed the requirements for each pick in an effort to keep CP3 off it.

    • @kingbirdIII
      @kingbirdIII 2 года назад

      The fact that people think Stocktons legacy in basketball is damaged because he is specifically against the rushed covid vax (not anti vax in general) is a joke. It's a woke joke , shouldn't be mentioned unless you are a puppet of the corporate greed system we are all exposed to

    • @cucumber3027
      @cucumber3027 2 года назад +2

      This is a very solid point 🤝 Steph is indisputably among the BEST if we're talking about the Best Overall players that played the Pos1. The only argument that can challenge that was the fact that he's not really a Traditional/Pure/True PG, u really have to either Put him #2(anything lower is an insult) and he's not even done yet, or isolate him coz he won't fit those PG rankings 'Qualifications'

    • @yvans.
      @yvans. 2 года назад +1

      Lol the anti/vaxx thing does nothing for me who really cares 😂

    • @ShawnBrown-qh4md
      @ShawnBrown-qh4md 2 года назад +1

      But he’s not better then Oscar, magic, or Thomas.. period

    • @joeljohnson6137
      @joeljohnson6137 2 года назад +2

      How does OG have STEPH in an not STOCKTON... STEPH better player but not better PG...
      STOCKTON may have been the Goat like MAGIC because STOCKTON was 9x NBA Assist Leader....
      Top 5 Greatest Point Guards ..
      No particular order...
      Magic Johnson
      5x Champion
      3x Finals MVP
      3x MVP
      12x All-Stars
      2x NBA All-Star Game MVP
      9x All NBA First Team
      4x NBA Assist Leader
      2x NBA Steal Leader
      IBM Award
      John Stockton
      10x NBA All-Star
      NBA All-Star Game MVP
      2x All NBA First Team
      9x NBA Assist Leader
      2x NBA Steals Leader
      Chris Paul
      12x NBA All-Star
      NBA All-Star MVP
      4x All-NBA First Team
      7x All Defensive First Team
      NBA Rookie Of The Year
      NBA All Rookie First Team
      5x NBA Assist Leader
      6x NBA Steels Leader
      Jason Kidd
      NBA Champion
      10x All-Star
      5x All NBA First Team
      4x All NBA Defensive First Team
      NBA Co Rookie First Team
      NBA All Rookie First Team
      5x NBA Assist Leader
      2x NBA Sportsmanship Award
      USA Male Basketball Athlete Of The Year
      Steve Nash
      2x MVP
      8x NBA All-Star
      3x All-NBA First Team
      5x NBA Assist Leader
      4x 50-40-90 Club
      Phonenix Sun Ring Of Honor
      2x FIBA AmeriCup MVP
      Lou Marsh Trophy
      3x Lionel Conacher Award
      I love Steph Curry but he didn't make my top 5 Best PG list because he is not a top 5 passer... Steph Curry does have Top 5 impact as a PG tho....
      Steph Curry
      3x Champion
      2x MVP
      8x NBA All-Star
      NBA All-Star Game Mvp
      4x All NBA First Team
      2x Scoring NBA Champion
      NBA Steals Leader
      50-40-90 Club
      2x NBA 3 Point Contest Champion
      NBA All Rookie First Team
      A PG is about passing...
      Assist Leader
      Stockon 9x
      Magic 5x
      CP3 5x
      Kidd 5x
      Nash 5x
      Steph 0x
      I made a mistake
      Oscar Robertson
      NBA Champion
      MVP
      12x NBA All-Star
      3x NBA All-Star Game MVP
      9x All NBA First Team
      6x Assist Leader
      Top 5 Greatest PGs
      KIDD MAGIC OSCAR STOCKTON
      Tied
      CP3/NASH
      Steph Isaiah an Glove Honorable Mention
      Glove
      9x NBA All-Star
      2x All NBA First Team
      NBA Defensive Player Of The Year
      9x All NBA Defensive First Team
      NBA Steals Leader
      Isaiah Thomas
      2x NBA Champion
      NBA Finals MVP
      2x NBA All-Star Game MVP
      3x All NBA First Team
      NBA All Rookie First Team
      NBA Assist Leader
      J. Walter Kennedy Citizenship Award

  • @NAVIURTALKSTUDIO
    @NAVIURTALKSTUDIO 2 года назад +10

    This guy mads Dogg the accent is the best man Stephen finally found someone to match his energy love that guy . Mad Dogg the beat lol

  • @jice201
    @jice201 2 года назад

    That’s a really really good list

  • @jonathanmilien9075
    @jonathanmilien9075 2 года назад +3

    Mad Dog really is just a mad man.

  • @dangelobrown87
    @dangelobrown87 2 года назад +8

    Y'all forgetting who the glove GP defensive point guard

  • @DEEtv365
    @DEEtv365 2 года назад +7

    J Kidd is my all time favorite, so I can appreciate it

    • @ShawnBrown-qh4md
      @ShawnBrown-qh4md 2 года назад +3

      And u got dudes up here commenting talking about mad dog overrating him.. Nah Kidd the most unappreciated player of all time.. these casuals think u have to shoot 3 pointers like curry

    • @Spurss210
      @Spurss210 2 года назад +3

      Fav pg of all time also 🤙🏻

  • @St111888
    @St111888 2 года назад

    That's actually a good list right there.

  • @Joshuaklotzbach
    @Joshuaklotzbach 2 года назад

    Mad dog Russo is great need him on more often he is so entertaining

  • @resurrectedainu6751
    @resurrectedainu6751 2 года назад +3

    It's spooky how much alike these two are. Loved this segment. Mad Dog just plain ol real!!

  • @tristancampbell4941
    @tristancampbell4941 2 года назад +32

    How much more does Patrick McCaw have to prove?!😂

  • @CoolSpike20
    @CoolSpike20 2 года назад

    Love this duo lol 😂

  • @mrbrown0629
    @mrbrown0629 2 года назад

    My God First Take FINALLY found a Duo made for the people!!!!

  • @boomboominroom
    @boomboominroom 2 года назад +6

    There’s probably 6 people alive that seen Bob Cousy play 😂😂😂😂

  • @jaleelgoines9949
    @jaleelgoines9949 2 года назад +8

    😂 this man got Jason Kidd ahead of curry. Steph top 3

    • @Oridginale24
      @Oridginale24 2 года назад +2

      Steph only brings offense. Kidd brought offense, defense, & leadership. Curry is not a defender and Draymond is the real leader of the Warriors. Steph is a better scorer and shooter but Kidd was the better passer and floor general.

    • @verifiedyessir2534
      @verifiedyessir2534 2 года назад +3

      @@Oridginale24 if steph is on the floor, he is defending his best. Some people are just not built to be a defender. It is not as if Curry is a guaranteed bucket like isiah Thomas. His most underrated part of the game.

    • @jaleelgoines9949
      @jaleelgoines9949 2 года назад +1

      @@Oridginale24 steph has led the nba in steals before so he’s not a terrible defender. But there’s is no way u can argue Kidd over curry. It’s not even close

    • @Oridginale24
      @Oridginale24 2 года назад +2

      @@jaleelgoines9949 Getting steals is often about gambling but there’s so much more to defense than just getting steals. Iverson led the league in steals but he wasn’t a great defender. Kidd could actually guard the 1 to the 3 positions. Kidd was the most vocal guy on the floor like Draymond is for the Warriors.

    • @007IloveNY
      @007IloveNY 2 года назад

      Curry is playing in a Marshmallow era, and is injured every two months.

  • @2phonebabymo
    @2phonebabymo Год назад

    when he keep yelling “DONT DEBATE IT” 😂😂

  • @tgenobolton2291
    @tgenobolton2291 2 года назад +2

    i was waiting for this guy to mention meadow lark lemon

  • @Comictalent
    @Comictalent 2 года назад +7

    1. Magic
    2. Steph
    3. Oscar
    4. Isiah
    5. Stockton
    6. CP3
    7. Cousy
    8. Frazier
    9. Kidd
    10. Nash
    Hon Mention: Tiny, Payton, DJ, Lilliard, Parker

    • @fazed362
      @fazed362 2 года назад +1

      Lillard?

    • @Comictalent
      @Comictalent 2 года назад +1

      @@fazed362 Top 15 PG of all-time? Yah, I'd say so, especially if he has a few more productive years.

    • @Kirbystare1992
      @Kirbystare1992 2 года назад +1

      You believe deep down in your heart that Cousy and Frazier are better than Westbrook?

    • @fazed362
      @fazed362 2 года назад

      @@Comictalent kyrie and Westbrook should be there before lillard, and future potential production isn’t an argument for a top 10 or 15 list. At best you can say lillard might reach it but he isn’t there yet

    • @Comictalent
      @Comictalent 2 года назад

      @@Kirbystare1992 No, they are nowhere near the athlete he is, but I don't believe you punish old players historically just because the game changes and players improve. I'm sure Cousy could never guard Westbrook one-on-one. But I also don't think Westbrook has had the career Cousy did in his era. I think both points matter.

  • @markarmage3776
    @markarmage3776 2 года назад +22

    They just forget about John Stockton, career leader in steals and assists by a landslide.
    He is the better version of Jason Kidd.

    • @guccisantanaaa7661
      @guccisantanaaa7661 2 года назад +2

      No rather have Jason he’s taller faster more athletic

    • @markarmage3776
      @markarmage3776 2 года назад

      @@guccisantanaaa7661 He's also less durable and an inferior passer and defender.

    • @williedoyle8331
      @williedoyle8331 2 года назад

      No chips

    • @harianirudh1478
      @harianirudh1478 2 года назад +1

      @@markarmage3776 Kidd with 9 defensive team selections? We talking about the same person? Passing I'd call it even, Kidd was flashier but Stockton more consistent. And durability, no debate, Stockton by a long shot

    • @jeffrey7737
      @jeffrey7737 2 года назад

      @@markarmage3776 your saying Kidd is an inferior defender ? 🤦

  • @theblackcyde2506
    @theblackcyde2506 2 года назад

    Can’t realty argue with this list looool

  • @marko6947
    @marko6947 2 года назад +2

    Mad Dog is fantastic!
    Speaking facts.

  • @VVVY777
    @VVVY777 2 года назад +4

    You can always count on CP3 to get hurt or choke along with making a team good on paper. He's not a winning player. He just fools everyone.

  • @teezy9790
    @teezy9790 2 года назад +7

    Mad dog: I have Steph curry at number 5
    *Immediately Clicks off video

  • @JustMicahFilms
    @JustMicahFilms 2 года назад +2

    Honestly I don’t mind his list I would def put curry higher though but Kidd is highly underrated his game wasn’t flashy but dude was a winner and a killer

  • @metaphoria3
    @metaphoria3 Год назад

    They should make an add of these two fine dining at a nice NY restaurant yelling back n forth at each other 🗣😂

  • @HAMID___
    @HAMID___ 2 года назад +3

    He loves Bob Cousy 😂😂😂

  • @johnnyjoseph8824
    @johnnyjoseph8824 2 года назад +3

    I love mad dog. But John Stockton has to be in the top 5. Matter of fact top 3 on anyones list.

  • @abrahamalvarez8321
    @abrahamalvarez8321 2 года назад

    I love this list... true true

  • @gametourny4ever627
    @gametourny4ever627 2 года назад +1

    To Round out Doggies list for a top 10, I would have added CP3 and the Glove. Gary Payton was great. One of the few guards to win Defensive Player of the year.

  • @Jmm4L
    @Jmm4L 2 года назад +9

    He also screamed that Chris Paul has only been to one conference final when he’s been to two…

  • @diegovillaneda9788
    @diegovillaneda9788 2 года назад +3

    Chris Paul played in 2 conference finals….

  • @king_rich0088
    @king_rich0088 2 года назад

    That was legit the first time the even mentioned hockey on this show when Russo mentioned Ray Bourque leaving Boston for the Colorado Avalanche and won a cup

  • @brumfeldo
    @brumfeldo 2 года назад +2

    The John Stockton disrespect is very real.

  • @grapesoda24
    @grapesoda24 2 года назад +15

    Everybody 50+ agrees 😂
    For me it's:
    1) Magic
    2) Steph
    3) Isaiah Thomas
    4) Kidd
    5) CP3 (if he wins a ring, he can be 4th)

    • @darkse1dd
      @darkse1dd 2 года назад +1

      The disrespect to Stockton and Oscar is unreal. Both are better than CP3 and Kidd for sure

    • @grapesoda24
      @grapesoda24 2 года назад +1

      @@darkse1dd that's fair. I just have a hard time putting guys who played in the 60s on that list. There were literally 8 teams in that era, and the Celtics were pretty much the Mongolians of that time

    • @theinktician
      @theinktician 2 года назад

      @@darkse1dd Not Oscar. As great as he was, he couldnt sniff the finals before Lew. Kidd got his team to the Finals back-to-back, and while he lost both, at least it was to all-time great teams. The Lakers 3peat and the Spurs.He made Kmart look like an allstar

  • @Paulafan5
    @Paulafan5 2 года назад +6

    Stockton and Malone are so severely underrated for all-time great lists and I don't know why. Yes, they lost 2 Finals to the undisputed GOAT, but they lost 2 Finals to the undisputed GOAT. Also, the Bulls support players were far superior to the Jazz's. If the Jazz had Rodman, they'd win 5 titles in a row. Stockton is 1st in Steals and Assists all-time and doesn't make a top 5 PG list? That's just insane.

    • @jnix_visuals
      @jnix_visuals 2 года назад

      Facts I thought for sure Stockton would be on here

  • @tony84.
    @tony84. 2 года назад +1

    Stephen A. and Mad Dog Russo are so much fun to watch. Doggie needs to start giving Steph Curry more credit. He should be at least be #3 in that top 5.

  • @dimitriusrivera9872
    @dimitriusrivera9872 2 года назад +1

    BLESSINGS