I'm spanish and what the woman says at 3:45 is absolutelly right. You need 2500€ to live but you earn 1200€. To the people saying it is the same in Berlin, London, etc. no it's not. Spanish people go to Germany, UK, US, Ireland and so on to live more comfortable but people from those countries don't come here to live with a spanish salary. There might be a reason don't you think?
@@RafaB13 I know a lot of bartenders and hospitality workers from all over Europe in Barcelona - to be fair they are on usually higher salaries of around 1.5 net, but still quite unaffordable. Not everybody emigrates to live more comfortably tho, some like a challenge and some are by chance because of work or relationships
@@mattnpatxi The challenge is nice when you know you always can return to your home country and live comfortable. But Spain is not in the same situation.
Foreigners saying they love living in Barcelona is just like westerners saying they love living in China. It's okay as long as you are not local and you can take advantage of the inequalities.
Of course, but the people who work in hospitality in Germany, UK, etc. can't afford to live in big city centers, either. And immigrants all over the world who go to work in those services don't rent in the 'Big City' either.
I live here in Barcelona for 10 years now. I only worked at international companies in the IT sector and I have no idea how do people survive here on those low local salaries. Apartments not only are expensive but close to impossible to find. Food is not as cheap as the man from NY describes. Prices of groceries went 50% up during last 2 years. Energy and water bills are also up there in the sky with their rates. In the nutshell the cost of living to local salaries ratio is absolutely terrible. You can see it in the street, you can feel it in the vibe of the city. i do not think anything can stop this trend unfortunately.
Yes. Trend would stop if the government banned all expats with high salaries and tourism. Only 10% of the GDP would be lost but 80% decrease in housing prices would be assured. However, the Spanish government is far more interested in money expats and tourists bring, than keeping their locals in their homeland. This is something all greedy spanish administrations are compliant with and definitely the ruin of our country, as it allows a great replacement of locals with richer people from other countries that do not play by the same rules Spaniards do in our hard and low paying job market.
I left Barcelona 4 years ago. Thank you God. The noise, trash, smelly sewers, crowds just made me sick. I now live in the Andalucían mountains of Spain. Good clean local food, no crowds, peace n quiet but plenty of fiesta and party whenever you want.
@@bazbbeeb7226 No, I am not Spanish and I still take lessons in Spanish although I'm almost fluent. It's also a great relief not to have to struggle with Catalan!
At the age to have kids, our 30's , locals still need to figure out a place to live... Very depressing. Locals are condemned to dissapear. Food IS NOT cheap for people in Spain. A 900 € flat is not cheap. Tourism actually serves as a showcase to put land up for sale to people from other countries with more income, and only benefits large corporations. Reality sucks.
@@ericpowell4350 Do you even understand what you're saying? Yes, our bodies are more prepared to have children in our teens and twenties than in our thirties. Yes, we have more mental energy while we're younger (although your maturity SHOULD increase as you get older). But where is people when they're in their 20s? They're finishing their degrees, trying to find a decent job so they can get paid well enough, and looking for opportunities. Life has slowed us around 5-10ish years on average in the last 100 years, meaning that what you used to do when you were in your 20s, now you do it when you're 30. People barely move out of their house when they're 30. They cannot afford a house, how are they supposed to have children before having a stable income, and being able to afford a house, education, and whatever comodities the children should have? It sucks. Especially for us young people (I'm 26) that still want to have children, life has been warped to a ridiculous degree. I work in the IT sector which is relatively well paid, and I still can barely make it out alive each month with the prices of the rent + food + taxes. It shouldn't be this way.
Sorry but cry me a river, as an immigrant comming from South America and earning a lot more than the locals it just show how lazy people are to put an effort and step up their career. I was living in London and it was the same crying from unskilled people about how foreigners “steal their jobs”, funny thing is that the job I “stole” they had to hire a guy from abroad..
The big problem also is that even the towns outside of Barcelona are also expensive because people started moving away and commuting. The quality of housing is also terrible. Additional thing is the unemployment rate is what? 9% in Catalunya?
@@totalprecisioncarpenter5922Definately, is called capitalism and Liberal society. Just money and profit for few matters. No humanity, no neighbourhoods with communities and social cohesion, no families, just individualism. When I talk about communities and social cohesion I dont mean at all in an ethnic Nationalist way. Communities and social cohesion may and might be form in a pluriethnic, plurilingual,plurireligious society but thats not what these people want and definately thats not for what they re pushing for
People's private property is just that, private. Not the business of you or the government who seem to think it belongs to them because of failed immigration policies.
It's interesting how people define "to live comfortably" - they describe living with roommates and just being able to cover your bills. This is so far from "comfortable " to me. That would be a nice, roomy apartment on your own, bills covered, savings, and the ability to go out to dinner, on vacation whenever you want, and generally not thinking about money when going about your daily life. Much closer to 5K/month at least in Barcelona.
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living comfortably is having only 40% of your total Net income on bills and living expenses. the remaining 60% is disposable income. I have only reached this at 40 years of age, and although the cost of living is ridiculous now I intend to maintain this 60/40 ratio until I'm at least 55, only 7 years to go.
they did a survey in France and they realize that the definition of "wealthy" depends on who you are talking to. "Wealthy" actually means wealthier in the eyes of the claear majority of the surveyed people, apart from 5/10% of the surveyed who claim to already be wealthy. For the 90% "unwealthy" people, "wealthy" means to be able to live comfortably without having to worry about unplanned spending (e.g., holidays on a whim). For the 10% self-proclaimed wealthy people, the average gross salary was 5,900€/month... which matches what you wrote.
I understand what you mean but this is a very relative thing. Living comfortable for me, a person born in Barcelona and raised in a nice suburban area, won’t be the same to someone for example born and raised in a fabela in Colombia or in a “normal” (not wealthy people) apartment in Manila for example. I will need around 3000€ a month for my idea of comfort and other people will think they are getting an amazing salary if they earn 1800€. Mindset, expectations and experience come into play here
This is basically happening in all major cities in Europe. Amsterdam is also not livable anymore for common people. In Amsterdam people on average earn a lot more, but especially buying a house is just almost double the price of Barcelona per m2, also transport is way more expensive. It's pretty sad local people have to move to other places.
Yes, this is similar to many towns and cities in Canada. It’s very difficult and you pretty much have to commute to the suburbs unless you are making alot of money.
@@kippsguitar6539 Do you think a nurse or a bus driver or a construction worker or an artist doesn't work hard? They don't deserve to life in a major city where they grew up? They should come out of less interesting cities to work and serve ridge people? If that's your idea of a nice society I feel sorry for you.
The North western Europeans are pricing southern Europeans out of the market. People in the North west of Europe earn a lot more & spend it in cheaper countries like Spain at the same time pricing all the Mediterranean (south European) people out of the market.
@@ericktwelve11 Its not only the north & the western European countries but North Americans too. Not only are they driving prices up in Spain but also many other touristic cities in Europe- Prague, Venice, Rome, London, Paris, Munich, Amsterdam, Oslo, Copenhagen, Stockholm, Dublin and Zurich.
@ericktwelve11 No, stop it. You cannot blame foreign nationals for taking advantage with what's legally available in the market. it's the Spanish municipal and central government's lack of action, and their short sighted to not move away from being tourism centred economies to a mix economy. Look at France they receive more tourist than Spanish. But, their economy is better adopted to not reply on it. Plus, have the rental mechanisms to better protect locals from predatory landlords and Real Estate Investors.
As a foreigner immigrant (from a 3d world country) who's lucky to earn enough to have a very decent living, it's very dissapointing to see the everyday misery that locals encounter, even though high-income folks are taxated to death (47%+)
I lived in Malta from 2017 -2019, the younger Maltese generation will suffer the same fate. The gaming industry changed the landscape of the Country and has built up the economy short term, but what are the long-term consequences? Houses, apartments, and hotels are built at an exponential rate, not always to the highest standards. Migrants, not always skilled builders are plucked off the streets to complete these builds, and I know of two apartment blocks that collapsed during my two-year stay. The transport infrastructure is unable to cope with the increase in population, also Food is 2-3 times more expensive than it was even 2-3 years ago. Older Maltese people can capitalise on the boom, buying second homes for Expacts to rent at now overinflated prices. Meanwhile, the young Maltese, many of who are not able to find a career path in the lucrative gaming industry for one reason or another are stuck in what is now deemed low-salary jobs compared to the many expats living on the tiny Island, unable to keep up with the cost of living compared to real wage terms, unable to get a foot on the property ladder.
I went to Barcelona recently on holiday and stayed quite a few days. I don't know why lots of tourists go there. Over crowded and not really that friendly or special imo. I may be wrong, but this was my experience.
Been going there for 10 years, yes locals are quite rude and miserable but not much diferent from the rest of Europe (Easten Europe is worse). But the city has great archtecture and the shopping dinning scene is Just fabulous. I keep going back because ive a few friends living there otherwise i wouldnt return because they are quite rude and miserable.
People like NYC Guy are the problem. South Americans al have been working like the normal Spanish person and living in Spain since like ever. And lots even have Spanish grandpas.
I am from Bavaria Germany i visit Barcelona 1 week ago i am so surprised how is expansive Barcelona is more then Munich specially Groceries and Resturants
And yet both in Barcelona and Madrid where I live, there are thousands of people that can somehow afford to live there but do not earn a salary, unless sitting around the local square all day, harassing passer bys somehow earns them an income. Make it make sense. I hear nothing about all those who are literally paid to do that by our taxes. Nothing!
I have family living there (i.e., locals). It's a city that has become filthy, full of drug addicts, criminals, crowded by tourists and rents and appartment prices have increased due to rich foreigners (immigrants) that pay more than twice for a place that 10 years ago could be paid with the salaries mentioned in the video. Yes, excessive tourism has an undeniable negative effect in this, airbnb has destroyed lots of viable access to payable rents, for example. I cant understand what people see in Bcn, two weeks ago I had to leave a playground, because it was full of drug addicts consuming whatever.
I don’t understand people like you who can’t understand why some people like it. Surely you can open up your mind . Not everyone is like you. Not everyone sees drug addicts in playgrounds , and most importantly, people with good jobs don’t watch fearmongering shite online, all day long. Everyone is so miserable online . No wonder everyone hates everything,
Not only Barcelona. I live in Mallorca and Real Estate prices are crazy. No one can afford living here, and the Government does nothing about it. I am worried my children will have to move.
The housing issue is not due to tourism or expats it’s due to the elders that bought all the houses and flats when they were worth nothings. I don’t know how many retired people I have meet that own more than 20+ flats all around Barcelona and rent them as high as they can to take advantages of the others.
1) The housing is going up due tourism and expat because everybody wants to live here. 2) there is so many illegal migrants taking all the low rent houses. 3) Whatever is left becomes mediocre high priced apartments 🤷🏾♂️
It is high because squaters. They even have legal consultations in the government offices about how to squat houses and flats. My mom has one flat to rent and had a squater for a year, and it was a quick eviction. So what Do you think people do with their flats? (paid in full with their work, by the way). Many hire to tourists or sell them. And who buys them in this economy? Big Companies, so instead of having middle class having an extra income, you have mega corporations owning the houses people need. Before the squaters got laws that favour them, it was easy to find some rent by people that prefered to rent, low but secure, to a working person. Now, this is over, because the risk of ending with your house highjacjed for years is too high
Please check the rent in places like Zamora and Lugo and then again in Ibiza, Barcelona and Málaga and then the click, yes, expats and tourism ruins the cities for locals
This is what Barcelona has become. All the catalans have left for the smaller cities and towns around the capital or all the way to Girona and Tarragona. It's a shame.
same story in Amsterdam / netherlands, we have the same issue over here ! Gentrifcation 1000%. Lot of people from other countries that have money spend a lot on renting and this makes it difficult for the people who were born here to even rent for a normal price. Its horrible and messed up. Shopping for groceries cost you at least 80 / 100 euro per week or you can do for cheaper but that means bread and cheese and water..thats it.
Also, the minimium wage is not 1100, but avarage wage. Minimum wage is less than that. Please ask people that have been born there and you will see what's their depressing and drasticly changed reality.
Stop lying, it is 15876€ per year as of Jan 24, that's 1323€ in 12 pays or 1134€ in 14. Average wage is way higher, just a google search away, go figure.
@@PTSeTeif you did your research correctly you would know that the salary increase happen this February, 2024. And that is because people is complaining and requesting it for a long time. Average salary is 1.5k and flats start at 1.2k, so seems that we still have a problem right ? Don't talk like you know about a topic if you have no idea.
@@darkarie Yea and we are in September 24 so it was a lie, super hard to grasp. Average salary is more than that, modal salary is around 1600€. Yes Bcn is super expensive, move to Terrasa and you'll find nice flats for 6-700€
@@s_t_n_l nonsense, people don't behave like the Spanish elsewhere, most places are welcoming, it's ironic because Spanish tourists are unpopular worldwide, especially here in Thailand
Around the world but small minded people from these towns that go NO WHERE keep complaining. Those are the people the world will simply pass by. A country that made up it's mind to get most of it's money from tourism now cries about tourism. It's also a democracy. What people WANT! So wtf are they complaining about. They should cry to themselves for making poor decisions in their past but instead blame everyone BUT themselves!
Barcelona city, Barcelonés Region, is surrounded by a major industrial park. You only have to leave the tourist center to go looking for work. When talking about BCN, we always see long-stay tourists talking about their experience in a society they don't know. If you want to know, ask a local. Go to industrial areas and ask at the companies.
@@eliotness4029 Tarragona? It is another city, capital of the province , located km from Barcelona. It has nothing to do with Barcelona city and its Industrial Park,
its kind of ironic , because this year in Greece we have many tourists from Spain. Sadly especially one family from Barcelona claimed the beach and sea belonged to them and began throwing rocks and taking pictures of us and in the end forced us to leave. Apparently a presence of a greek stopped them from swimming
Double Standards everywere.... Barcelona are katalan not spain . They say that all time ❤ we need to say that rich use our neighbourhood as there movie Park 😂
@@citpelocitycit7663 true catalan, haha something like that. i guess double standards true butfor me on a personal level i would respect the people and culture of the area i am visiting
This is all by design. Spain was allowed to enter the EU if they agreed to a deindustrialization in favor of Germany. This made Northern Europeans richer and Southern Europeans poorer. So now these richer Northern Europeans come to Spain and are just buying up Spain. A few decades from now Spain will not be from the Spanish anymore. This allready happened in the United States but it seems that the Spanish didnt learn much from history.
@@fatimateresa19 Lol. Spain doesn't need the EU. Spain needs to industrialize and then export their products to South and Central America, our brothers. Spain should also build companies inside those countries so the people in these countries have jobs as well and get out of poverty. That would be the best for Spain. Not being a puppet of the EUSA and letting foreigners buy up all your country. How the hell can you type such a senseless comment ? You should really start following the videos of Pedro Banios because you are completely brainwashed and dont even realize it.
Entire southern Europe should leave the EU. Spain, Italy, Greece, Portugal, Cyprus, Malta, etc. Then make central and northern Europeans pay 50 euros if they want to enter the southern European countries during summer. Just for entrance, 50 euros! Watch the economy boom like Italy when it had it's own currency lira.
Compatibility is key in choosing a flat mate. If you are older, you do not want a young flat mate. By the same token, if you are young, you do not want an older flat mate. Older people like peace and quiet, complete opposite of what most young people are after.
You have an amazing channel, I've been in BCN for 12 years, but thx to remote job, I moved outside, far from Catalunya. I have a much better quality of life and people is more friendly too :)
Tourism has a big impact on life of people, has transformed the city to a theme park. Noise, massification, high rent,inflation and insecurity rates. On the other hand, it does not have a positive impact on economy on the long term. The substitution of industrial sectors in favor of tourism oriented economy means easy money for business owners and companies but lower salaries for most of the population. The problem is not tourism, but a levels of tourism, that are no longer sustainable for the local population
Tourism is number 1 in GDP growth in Spain. The prices go up not because of tourism, but because of insane inflation thanks to decisions made by politicians in the covid times. Also tourists do not stay in Spain, they come and go. Only brainwashed ppl would blame tourism for their mistakes in life.
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would these towns and cities exist without tourism? me thinks not.
@@arriguneNot Barcelona. They have always had huge tourism. Tourism is not the problem. If Barcelona didn't have tourism it would be more or less like Marseille.
Some people are more frugal than others. I also spend less than 40 euros a week on food living in Lisbon, which nowadays is as or more expensive than Barcelona.
It reminds me of America where rich people constantly tell you "but it's a great country".....its not a great country if you pay 10 x what they pay for healthcare anywhere else on earth. It certainly is great for all the people living off dividend who only pay 15% tax.
08:15 The reason that woman managed to get a cheap apartment infront of the sagrada familia is because eventually the block will be demolished to finish the entrance to the church, so most apartments in that block are reserved for locals at a cheap price!
It's sad that someone in their 30s can't afford to rent alone, let alone buy a flat. Is there a country left where someone can live a comfortable life working in the local market?
When I was briefly in Barcelona I bought things that were hand dyed from street sellers. They were local artisans and people just trying to make a living, but that was a long time ago 2007 and even then there were too many tourists. I felt aware of it and was self conscious about it. Usually I try to visit friends but I was en route.
My husband is originally from here and he is doing 3 jobs yet it's still very difficult. While on the other hand I am living here in Spain for a year and a half only, I am doing an 8 hour job a day and still trying to take care of our 3 year old daughter is very difficult. We don't know how to survive with our economic problems. We are both earning yet we still struggle.
I visited Málaga a few months ago and booked a hostel and was shocked there were blocks and blocks of buildings that were just rented out on AirBnB or booking. And the hostel/AirBnB's weren't cheap either.
The problem is unmanaged immigration and a global housing crisis in Urban areas. Be grateful that you have tourism. Those that don’t become dead abandon communities unless they have some other major resources or businesses to make up the difference.
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these Spanish commies don't want to hear this though it's capitalism's fault not the low and unskilled people coming and taking their jobs and driving the wages down/ Commies rational is that of a mental patient unfortunately.
@@arrigune Not really, I see people acting out their frustration on random foreigners, rather than holding the owners responsible. Mainly because the owners are usually los amiguetes or family. It's the same with the loss of local culture. I have been living in the Barceloneta for 15 years now, and I have seen the majority of the authentic restaurants being sold to Pakistaníes. Why?; because the "Spanish" young people have no interest in taking over those businesses.
the food prices in BCN are crazy, the rents are high, the water price is crazy too and there are shady practices to increase artificially the already skyrocketing water tax by reading less often the meter and assigning a hike in one single month which can double the price. I have no idea why the food price is so high here, I was in vacation in France in the country side and the food was half the price than in BCN. One reason for high rent could be the lack of flats, construction do not follow the increase in population, apparently half of the residents are foreigners or coming form other regions to find a job, probably moved in less than 15y ago, so how can we house so many people, the topology restricts the construction as well. Construction in Spain/Catalonia is now expensive thanks to regulations, old building are not comfortable but new ones are extremely rare. Circulating on the road is now ultra slow thanks to new policies, so you can't travel outside the public transport which take an hour to cross the city in most cases, so living far from the work where there are more housing options and better prices isn't convenient. I got the feeling that BCN was better to live in with a lot less population, I'm not sure tourism is the root cause.
This happens in Every country. Dublin is the same. But you can’t blame the people who come with money and contribute financially to your economy. Many people can’t afford to live in Dublin, definitely not buy property there and some were actually born there.
blaming Mass Migration of non Eurpean People would not Fit in this Peoples programmed Minds. They are the Ones Occupying the Cheap Appartements that a Spaniard earning Minimum Wage would live in
@@g-man4744it’s also not a tourists fault in Barcelona. Blame government and their mass immigration laws from non-eu countries, blame landlords for high rent prices, blame local government for not building affordable housing and putting more and more laws to protect squatters
And how many people with NY salary lives in Spain? Milion? Is he responsible for rent price in your area? Again, nope. Blame landlords, government instead of venting frustration on a random guy who pays taxes and spend his money in spain
@@p_like_piotr many people with outside salaries live in BCN, don’t know if you don’t live here, and yeah I can blame anyone I want, and I blame that guy
Its up to government to protect citizens. Its not the fault of those visiting. You know who's charging all that money? Other Spaniards. They are doing it to themselves.
I would take back every single negative aspect of Europe before the EU in a second. Every border check, every dirt road, every change of currency. Europe was an adventure back then and it was wonderful!
It was the same where I am from in Montana USA. I now live in South America, yes, displacing people here. Its a global situation and no one wants to be in charge except when its time to get paid.
Tourists use airbnbs that were regular rent for people described in the video and now have to commute, leave or survive with low salaries and high rents.
How is working people paying tax a problem? I’m a Swede living in Spain, I earn more than the average Spaniard in my field but that also means I pay more in taxes- which everybody use. You did not have to spend any money on my education nor the cost of upbringing ( medical etc). I- as many others- come to your country and contribute to the economy from day one. You have no idea how Spain would look like without EU, you are delusional. My landlord is Spanish but is working in Sweden. Should he not be allowed to earn more money in Sweden? Does he take away jobs from the Swedes?
BCN has graduated out of tourism for backpackers/university students. Get rid of Air BNB, hotel rates will go up, and youll get the type of tourists who can inject more money into local businesses - instead of budget tourists who seem to prioritize getting drunk. Plus, all those apartment units can be rented out to locals. The backpackers will go elsewhere - Valencia, Galicia, Morocco, Tunisia. Somewhere else. As for group tourists, they already stay in hotels on outskirts of the city and take their tour bus into the city.
In USA 1000 euros a month ( $1092 US dollars ) You will not make it Rent a room $800 Groceries 200-300 Nothing left over You would also have NO healthcare 🥴
Actual minimum wage in Spain is around 1200€, healthcare is free ;) In Barcelona, if you are a skilled professional, you will earn way more than the minimum. There is no country where you can live properly with a minimum wage. Especially if you are aiming to a top 2 city in that country!!
Can anyone share a town name where one can live 'comfortably' on minimal legal wage? 'Comfortable' definition in this context: private apartment in good condition + 5-10% monthly savings capability
It’s not a problem - there are plenty of other tourist spots. Why hate on foreigners and tourists? This cost-of-living problem is global and it’s not the fault of tourism.
Same cost of living and housing crisis issues in Ireland and it's not 'wealthy' tourists that is adding to our problems, it's uncontrolled immigration.
then why live in Barcelona? You can move to Zaragoza, Bilbao or a 2nd tier city where the cost of living is much lower and you have a better lifestyle in the end
And eventually the same will happen to those cities for the same reason you are telling people from Barcelona to go there instead. Also, moving to another city is not that simple for most people, as they have families, partners or simply an attachment to the city they were born in.
Here in the UK, the boomer generation got everything handed to them on a plate and then they voted for the party which benefitted them in the long term. When they patronise and say on how to save money etc they have amnesia and forget that when a house was purchased, they received Option Mortgage Scheme/Mortgage interest relief at source and the wage to house price was 4 times whereas now its 12-14 times and the salary per the economic outcome, has increased meaning you are paid less for the work done at all levels when in comparison to boomer generation. Things are only going to get worse as time goes on but things might change a bit once the boomers eventually die out over time.
In 2014 when I was living in Barcelona : Normal salary : 1,000-1,200 euros. MacDonald salary : 700-900 euros. To get an apartment between immigrants in some shithole of Barcelona : 450-500 euros. Electricity bill, internet, water : around 150 euros. Food : around 250 euros per month x one person. Transportation : 100 euros for metro per month Total : 1,050 euros. An after 10 years you have a normal salary of 1,200-1,500 euros and a renting of 700-1000 euros. What a joke.
As long as real estate is made an investment vehicle for everyone with money , housing crise will remain . There should be some checks on howany houses 1 corporation or person invests in
I keep saying...people are choosing degrees or skills, which the country/city doesn't need (or at least in such quantity). I'm coming from a country where a lot of kids choose to go to Humanities. Who needs 300 Historians every year? And then, they all want to live and work in Lisbon or Porto. If people would choose degrees or skills in demand, they would have a better job, thus more money to pay for their bills. And YES, governments also need to incentivize the workforce and create a more flexible labor law, so that investment comes in. Blaming tourists is just an easy excuse....
Not only work in Lisbon or Porto, but downtown! In front of the Sagrada Familia and with 2 Balconies. C’mon!
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the governments in Europe do not push and encourage the stem subjects, finance, accounting, business, etc. and especially not non academic vocational courses such as plumbing, carpentry. everyone gets pushed into mickey mouse courses just to keep them off the unemployment stas for 3 years.
Trust me it's the same problem in USA major cities...but if someone want to settle down in the middle no where in USA it's dirt cheap but no jobs so you better learn how to rancher and farm.
Dirt cheap. Lol im from Utah. the cheapest state in the US. Until the californians came and ruined the place. Houses no joke, 7 years ago were 150k. now 500k. I am not joking. And did my local utah job give me insane pay raises? Lol no.
Get an education and a job that pays better than working in a shop... It's not normal that someone making coffee in Starbucks should expect to live in a beautiful apartment in the center of town overlooking the plaza... There are a lot of "victims" in Barcelona. They're always complaining about everything and often won't do anything towards bettering their own situation. I know many people who earn more than me but constantly tell me that they are poor and they always look to blame everybody else but themselves. The tourists, the government, the capitalism, bla bla bla, wa wa wa... suck it up and harden up. Rome wasn't built in 1 day. Studdy the job market learn where the money is and do that. What ever you do: Do not become an other psychologist or yoga teacher or art student. There are millions of those, the market is saturated. Learn a skill we need, marine mechanics, primery teachers, engineers, nurses... and if you like playing music or anthropology then do it as a hobby, you can still enjoy life.
Every job that I had in Barcelona before switching to programming was for the UK market. So I was basically working in the UK market remotely and paying taxes and pumping my earnings into the Barcelona economy. Just because the UK is a wealthier country it doesn't mean that the average working "expat" here is rich. Far from it. I came from a city with one of the highest unemployment rates. The true problem is that all the wealth is being earned by the top 1%. This has been happening for decades now. And the top 1% love it when they see you attack immigrants because it provides a very effective distraction from the truth. It helps to delay the inevitable tax increases on the rich and laws which discourage property speculation. Some of the comments in this video are just straight up xenophobic and ignorant. And these "locals" seem to feel justified because the people that they are attacking are not black or Muslim, but from Northern Europe. Left wing extremists are just as stupid as right wing extremists, and this provides a good example of that.
Spent alot of time in Spain, including Barcelona & I could never live there. I really don't understand why people struggle there, when just 20kms away they can live on half the costs.
Because living 20 km away implies 1h commute to work and back. And people like to avoid, if possible, wasting 2 hours every day in commutes.The public transport system (rodalies) is infamous for how bad it is, and how under-financed it is, and using private transport leads to long-lasting traffic jams.
@@zekrinealfa1113 Yes sure I understand & that's the choices people make. Each to their own & what people value most. Money, freedom, less stress, valuing nature or not etc. It's like London & any big city...most people are just surviving, not really living.
The virtuous system made after WWII has been broken with privatizations of public companies and tax deregulation, mainly for the big capitals. After that reforms, States have been pushed to finance with debt; debt that circulates at the end of the economic activities and with low interest rates to the big capitals. This economical agents have broken the system; cause without tax regulation, they swim in cash; their huge liquidity is used to buy assets; creating an inflation movement that makes assets (like houses), impossible to achieve for the middle class. Capital is buying houses in all places and creating rents for international laptop elite. And without regulations, with each tax cut, the difference and the movement accelerate inequality and wealth concentration.
@@skull.18 No but I've been there on business plenty of times in recent years to see its complete degradation to a filthy, crime-filled ghastly, trash city. London used to be great, don't get me wrong, but those years are gone.
Add all the foreigners who come to live permanently with salaries from wealthier countries, as well as retirees from those same countries. There are already areas of Spain that are practically owned by foreigners because Spaniards can't afford to live there on their salaries.
Why ask the non-local non-educated non-regular-job people? Sure, they’ll ern little and complain much! In every city there are less lucky ones. Don’t see in this video a single person from HoReCa sector or full time job worker of Bcn, by the way they earn 25-40k, while blooming IT and cargo port jobs earn 60-80k in this same city. Very one-sided approach
People of Barcelona for 14 minutes describing/complainig what it feels like living in ANY major city in the world Do you really think that a waiter in any other million+ city can live whatever they like just on their wage?
So they can't complain? Is that it? No one working in a city should be able to complain about their salaries and the cost of living? What nonsense is that?
I agree. People need to get with the program. Cities are increasingly becoming corporate hubs. Low rent on individuals/people working unskilled jobs should not expect to live in the city, but rather in satellite towns. It is what it is. Beggars cannot be choosers.
Usually an immigrant would come from a poor country, while an expat would come from at least as wealthy or even wealthier country to experience the culture, opportunities, not necessarily to increase their wealth.
Problems created by: 1) Joining the 🇪🇺. Spain can't close borders to Europeans 2) High taxes, leaving little for locals and companies (which leave or aren't created)
We went to Barcelona and stayed in a hotel so sorry locals were not guilty Airbnb users, I found locals really rude and was actually pushed by a woman on the street, wouldn’t go back again, you can feel as a tourist you’re not welcome but they’re happy to take your money in restaurants etc…
Still not sure why the mismanagement of a countries' economy by successive, incompetent governments is the fault of expats and tourists. The tourist industry directly/indirectly is about 25-30% of Spanish economy easy. the expats coming here are not taking the jobs from locals, the jobs are being taken by the influx of low skilled worked into the country supply and demand economics. more labour supply = lower pay rates. when i worked in Barcelona I employed local contractors, local workers such as accountants, lawyers, surveyors, etc, etc, my job isn't Spanish born it is based in London and Monaco, so I'm taking a local's job, ratherI'm importing wealth into the country by hiring and spending locally.
Wealthy people are taking appartments/flats and paying lots of money for a rent, contributing to the increase in rent cost for other local poorer people.
What would Spain do without turism? They dont have any strong industry so they should be glad that tourists Are coming in and spend money in theire country.
@@Serge-cm5my that's true, Spanish people are not at all popular and never stop complaining when they spend money on dining or accommodation, some of the rental agencies in southern Spain won't accept Spanish customers for that reason and that's the truth, many Spanish costas restaurants don't like Spanish customers too as they spend so little and complain so much
Interesting how many locals complain about tourism (which influx so much money into the city), but not about okupas (squatters), freeloaders getting paid by the government for not doing anything, illegal immigrants living off the system with salaries for doing nothing, pickpockets (which never end up in jail as the Spanish law is so soft), huge taxes. Basically, a local and national government that are totally hopeless in managing public funds, more worried into investing them in their own populist agendas. Barcelona had always a big influx of tourists, but check what parties have been under Barcelona city hall in the last years, and check crime stats and city management since them, then you'd understand that tourists are not the problem whatsoever, but poor management.
Without tourist Spain would go bankrupt in no time i'm afraid. I understand its getting to much, but Spain is partly build on tourist as well. Without it would go down fast. Cause when it comes to automotive industry, or technology or finance they have no position in Europe let a lone the world. They are depended on tourist. Spain has not developed its country to be competitive in different areas and has to much focus on tourism. The wages are far to low in Spain to live properly because they dont have leading or good positions in different industries.
That's simply not true. You are assuming a total elimination of tourism on an instant; things don't work like that. Also, the main benefiters of tourism are not the average citizens whatsoever.
@@arrigune you do realise 13% is like massive right? That's double digits. Which is huge. Even 2% is already significant. Let alone 13%. Like i've said. Spain does not have a leading position in many industries. They need the tourists.
@@Chronomatrix I mean a bakery, a restaurant, a camping or a hotel are all staffed with "average" citizens right. And yeah their wages getting paid a big part cause of tourist. So yeah of course the average citizens benefit. And by the way in Londen, Amsterdam, Paris or New York are all the same problems. The "locals" cant live their any more only the rich. Just how it is im afraid.
Most countries in this modern economic ecosystem will not survive without foreign talent and tourist. Look at Singapore, Malaysia, Thailand. These countries are successful with foreign talent and tourist.
Si todo el mundo quiere vivir en la misma zona obviamente los alquileres van a ser caros porque ante la misma cantidad de inmuebles hay mucha más demanda si quieren alquileres baratos tendrían que irse a partes de España donde nadie quiera vivir
yes but there are people that live there for generations, they have the right to stay. They are being priced out. The construction rate in BCN is way lower than the population increase. The overall density is now very high too. Maybe Barcelona needs to stop growing so quick or at least require the companies to hire a % of locals. Where I worked (I'm foreign too), locals are a minority. Ok it helps growing the economy but if it means growing the population with foreigners, the housing issue won't be solved.
I’m an expat from Texas that has been living for almost 8 years in Barcelona and soon relocating to Madrid. IMHO Barcelona has reached this situation, among other things, especially due to their Catalan politicians -and by this I mean the secessionist ones-. You can see those who were once normal people turn into sociopaths to the point they won’t serve you in a store if you don’t speak Catalan. I speak fluent Spanish and politics aside, I’ve never met anyone who would prefer learning Catalan over learning Spanish, and this comes from a purely efficient standpoint. Why would you spend time learning a language spoke by rougly 10M people vs another one spoke by 600M? I’ve never met a Catalan that prefers learning Cantonese over learning Mandarin either and for sure they’ve never been discriminated in HK for doing so. Not to mention the insecurity problem with all the migrants. They don’t want tourists (however they like being tourists when they go abroad), but like to welcome refugees. I guess if you accept poverty your society will become poorer eventually as it’s happening by now. Barcelona used to be an amazing, vibrant, top-tier world city, however now it’s really mid. To all the people staying or who can’t relocate, wish you all the best.
Cities are expensive, its the same everywhere, that's just how it is. I don't get why people are protesting in Spain, places in the south: Costa Blanca etc. thrive because of tourism, can't have it both ways...
I'm spanish and what the woman says at 3:45 is absolutelly right. You need 2500€ to live but you earn 1200€. To the people saying it is the same in Berlin, London, etc. no it's not. Spanish people go to Germany, UK, US, Ireland and so on to live more comfortable but people from those countries don't come here to live with a spanish salary. There might be a reason don't you think?
Precisely. Just gotta look at migration flows within the euro zone to know which countries have it worse.
@@RafaB13 I know a lot of bartenders and hospitality workers from all over Europe in Barcelona - to be fair they are on usually higher salaries of around 1.5 net, but still quite unaffordable. Not everybody emigrates to live more comfortably tho, some like a challenge and some are by chance because of work or relationships
@@mattnpatxi The challenge is nice when you know you always can return to your home country and live comfortable. But Spain is not in the same situation.
Foreigners saying they love living in Barcelona is just like westerners saying they love living in China. It's okay as long as you are not local and you can take advantage of the inequalities.
Of course, but the people who work in hospitality in Germany, UK, etc. can't afford to live in big city centers, either. And immigrants all over the world who go to work in those services don't rent in the 'Big City' either.
I live here in Barcelona for 10 years now. I only worked at international companies in the IT sector and I have no idea how do people survive here on those low local salaries. Apartments not only are expensive but close to impossible to find. Food is not as cheap as the man from NY describes. Prices of groceries went 50% up during last 2 years. Energy and water bills are also up there in the sky with their rates.
In the nutshell the cost of living to local salaries ratio is absolutely terrible. You can see it in the street, you can feel it in the vibe of the city. i do not think anything can stop this trend unfortunately.
You can make a change with your vote. Time to get better economic conditions for the local markets
How much did you make in those it companies and what did you do there ?
Yes. Trend would stop if the government banned all expats with high salaries and tourism. Only 10% of the GDP would be lost but 80% decrease in housing prices would be assured. However, the Spanish government is far more interested in money expats and tourists bring, than keeping their locals in their homeland. This is something all greedy spanish administrations are compliant with and definitely the ruin of our country, as it allows a great replacement of locals with richer people from other countries that do not play by the same rules Spaniards do in our hard and low paying job market.
The guy from NYC obviously meant relative to NYC prices, which are ridiculously expensive compared to prices of groceries in Spain.
Tens raó.
I left Barcelona 4 years ago. Thank you God. The noise, trash, smelly sewers, crowds just made me sick. I now live in the Andalucían mountains of Spain. Good clean local food, no crowds, peace n quiet but plenty of fiesta and party whenever you want.
@marrlena947 hi, do you mind me asking, are you Spanish?
@@bazbbeeb7226Probably yes.
@@bazbbeeb7226 No, I am not Spanish and I still take lessons in Spanish although I'm almost fluent. It's also a great relief not to have to struggle with Catalan!
@@kngkrmson2179 Nope.
Come to dubai, it's the best place for tourists...all are welcome without any hatred
..very clean place too...europe is becoming smelly😅
At the age to have kids, our 30's , locals still need to figure out a place to live...
Very depressing. Locals are condemned to dissapear.
Food IS NOT cheap for people in Spain.
A 900 € flat is not cheap.
Tourism actually serves as a showcase to put land up for sale to people from other countries with more income, and only benefits large corporations.
Reality sucks.
You should be having children in your 20s not your 30s.
@@ericpowell4350 Do you even understand what you're saying?
Yes, our bodies are more prepared to have children in our teens and twenties than in our thirties. Yes, we have more mental energy while we're younger (although your maturity SHOULD increase as you get older).
But where is people when they're in their 20s? They're finishing their degrees, trying to find a decent job so they can get paid well enough, and looking for opportunities.
Life has slowed us around 5-10ish years on average in the last 100 years, meaning that what you used to do when you were in your 20s, now you do it when you're 30.
People barely move out of their house when they're 30. They cannot afford a house, how are they supposed to have children before having a stable income, and being able to afford a house, education, and whatever comodities the children should have?
It sucks. Especially for us young people (I'm 26) that still want to have children, life has been warped to a ridiculous degree.
I work in the IT sector which is relatively well paid, and I still can barely make it out alive each month with the prices of the rent + food + taxes. It shouldn't be this way.
Sorry but cry me a river, as an immigrant comming from South America and earning a lot more than the locals it just show how lazy people are to put an effort and step up their career. I was living in London and it was the same crying from unskilled people about how foreigners “steal their jobs”, funny thing is that the job I “stole” they had to hire a guy from abroad..
Things are going in the wrong direction in a serious way. People doing demanding jobs, earning just 1000- 1500 Euros a month, it is scandalous.
@@plonss That salary is okay when you are in your begin 20s, but not when you are way older than that. Scandalous indeed.
Is all reduced to where you live, burger cities equal bigger expenses and smaller cities often have no opportortunities.
Some Doctors in spain earn as little as 11euro a hour !!!!
This is average salary in Spain 😢 for lots of people at least
"Normal Life style"=Unrealistic expectation
The big problem also is that even the towns outside of Barcelona are also expensive because people started moving away and commuting. The quality of housing is also terrible. Additional thing is the unemployment rate is what? 9% in Catalunya?
Exactly the same story in Berlin, Dublin, London, Lisbon, Milan etc etc
story continues in Paris, Prague, Warsaw, Manchester, Rome.....
I left Dublin after five years and have now been in Berlin for five years.This city used to be affordable, but now it’s nearly as expensive as Munich!
Almost like it’s some sort of co-ordinated plan 🤷♂️
@@totalprecisioncarpenter5922Definately, is called capitalism and Liberal society. Just money and profit for few matters. No humanity, no neighbourhoods with communities and social cohesion, no families, just individualism. When I talk about communities and social cohesion I dont mean at all in an ethnic Nationalist way. Communities and social cohesion may and might be form in a pluriethnic, plurilingual,plurireligious society but thats not what these people want and definately thats not for what they re pushing for
@@PS-uz4epDid you ever live under communism? I don't wish that to anyone! Capitalism is definitely the more humane choice.
Since Airbnb came out Edinburgh has been having these issues for years
People's private property is just that, private. Not the business of you or the government who seem to think it belongs to them because of failed immigration policies.
It's interesting how people define "to live comfortably" - they describe living with roommates and just being able to cover your bills. This is so far from "comfortable " to me. That would be a nice, roomy apartment on your own, bills covered, savings, and the ability to go out to dinner, on vacation whenever you want, and generally not thinking about money when going about your daily life. Much closer to 5K/month at least in Barcelona.
living comfortably is having only 40% of your total Net income on bills and living expenses. the remaining 60% is disposable income. I have only reached this at 40 years of age, and although the cost of living is ridiculous now I intend to maintain this 60/40 ratio until I'm at least 55, only 7 years to go.
they did a survey in France and they realize that the definition of "wealthy" depends on who you are talking to.
"Wealthy" actually means wealthier in the eyes of the claear majority of the surveyed people, apart from 5/10% of the surveyed who claim to already be wealthy.
For the 90% "unwealthy" people, "wealthy" means to be able to live comfortably without having to worry about unplanned spending (e.g., holidays on a whim).
For the 10% self-proclaimed wealthy people, the average gross salary was 5,900€/month... which matches what you wrote.
I understand what you mean but this is a very relative thing. Living comfortable for me, a person born in Barcelona and raised in a nice suburban area, won’t be the same to someone for example born and raised in a fabela in Colombia or in a “normal” (not wealthy people) apartment in Manila for example. I will need around 3000€ a month for my idea of comfort and other people will think they are getting an amazing salary if they earn 1800€. Mindset, expectations and experience come into play here
Great job. This interview really illustrates the frustration amongst people actually living in Barcelona.
Thank you for your nice words. Yes, unfortunately the situation is very tough for locals
This is basically happening in all major cities in Europe. Amsterdam is also not livable anymore for common people. In Amsterdam people on average earn a lot more, but especially buying a house is just almost double the price of Barcelona per m2, also transport is way more expensive. It's pretty sad local people have to move to other places.
Yes, this is similar to many towns and cities in Canada. It’s very difficult and you pretty much have to commute to the suburbs unless you are making alot of money.
Get out of bed like the rest of Europe and make some money instead of being jealous
@@kippsguitar6539 Do you think a nurse or a bus driver or a construction worker or an artist doesn't work hard? They don't deserve to life in a major city where they grew up? They should come out of less interesting cities to work and serve ridge people? If that's your idea of a nice society I feel sorry for you.
The North western Europeans are pricing southern Europeans out of the market. People in the North west of Europe earn a lot more & spend it in cheaper countries like Spain at the same time pricing all the Mediterranean (south European) people out of the market.
I had a discussion about this, people from Scandinavian countries are buying properties.
That's what I was saying, it's the north and western Europeans messing up the country.
@@ericktwelve11 Its not only the north & the western European countries but North Americans too. Not only are they driving prices up in Spain but also many other touristic cities in Europe- Prague, Venice, Rome, London, Paris, Munich, Amsterdam, Oslo, Copenhagen, Stockholm, Dublin and Zurich.
@ericktwelve11 No, stop it. You cannot blame foreign nationals for taking advantage with what's legally available in the market.
it's the Spanish municipal and central government's lack of action, and their short sighted to not move away from being tourism centred economies to a mix economy.
Look at France they receive more tourist than Spanish. But, their economy is better adopted to not reply on it. Plus, have the rental mechanisms to better protect locals from predatory landlords and Real Estate Investors.
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The second woman really illustrates what we are facing daily in Barcelona.
They all need to be more like the Ameerican man from NYC, they have peasant mindsets thinking they'll have cheap rent forever sadly
While some lady is cleaning the sidewalk behind her... yea, oh such horrible tough times for her! 😅😅
No one its talking about Arbn being the problem. Prices have gone up everywhere because it make more money to rent this way.
As a foreigner immigrant (from a 3d world country) who's lucky to earn enough to have a very decent living, it's very dissapointing to see the everyday misery that locals encounter, even though high-income folks are taxated to death (47%+)
I lived in Malta from 2017 -2019, the younger Maltese generation will suffer the same fate.
The gaming industry changed the landscape of the Country and has built up the economy short term, but what are the long-term consequences?
Houses, apartments, and hotels are built at an exponential rate, not always to the highest standards. Migrants, not always skilled builders are plucked off the streets to complete these builds, and I know of two apartment blocks that collapsed during my two-year stay.
The transport infrastructure is unable to cope with the increase in population, also Food is 2-3 times more expensive than it was even 2-3 years ago. Older Maltese people can capitalise on the boom, buying second homes for Expacts to rent at now overinflated prices.
Meanwhile, the young Maltese, many of who are not able to find a career path in the lucrative gaming industry for one reason or another are stuck in what is now deemed low-salary jobs compared to the many expats living on the tiny Island, unable to keep up with the cost of living compared to real wage terms, unable to get a foot on the property ladder.
I went to Barcelona recently on holiday and stayed quite a few days. I don't know why lots of tourists go there. Over crowded and not really that friendly or special imo. I may be wrong, but this was my experience.
Been going there for 10 years, yes locals are quite rude and miserable but not much diferent from the rest of Europe (Easten Europe is worse). But the city has great archtecture and the shopping dinning scene is Just fabulous. I keep going back because ive a few friends living there otherwise i wouldnt return because they are quite rude and miserable.
@isaiasnascimento7026 Okay. That makes sense. Maybe friendly once you get to know Europeans, but not initially warm. At least in the cities.
sea and mountains
Yes it's so unfriendly and overrated
@@isaiasnascimento7026great architecture? Where? The rude people the ride locals talk the place up, I went there in the 70s and it was like Africa
The guy from NYC is actually the problem they're all describing , ironically
I thought the same thing
He doesn't set rent prices. Landlords are taking advantage of him at the expense of the locals.
@@rudolphteperberry3888 That's right, but it's also a bit of a chicken-egg question. Landlords are setting the high prices BECAUSE of people like him
People like NYC Guy are the problem. South Americans al have been working like the normal Spanish person and living in Spain since like ever. And lots even have Spanish grandpas.
@@timmy2870 not really.
I am from Bavaria Germany i visit Barcelona 1 week ago i am so surprised how is expansive Barcelona is more then Munich specially Groceries and Resturants
Wenn das schon von nem Bayer kommt...
And yet both in Barcelona and Madrid where I live, there are thousands of people that can somehow afford to live there but do not earn a salary, unless sitting around the local square all day, harassing passer bys somehow earns them an income. Make it make sense. I hear nothing about all those who are literally paid to do that by our taxes. Nothing!
I have family living there (i.e., locals). It's a city that has become filthy, full of drug addicts, criminals, crowded by tourists and rents and appartment prices have increased due to rich foreigners (immigrants) that pay more than twice for a place that 10 years ago could be paid with the salaries mentioned in the video. Yes, excessive tourism has an undeniable negative effect in this, airbnb has destroyed lots of viable access to payable rents, for example.
I cant understand what people see in Bcn, two weeks ago I had to leave a playground, because it was full of drug addicts consuming whatever.
I don’t understand people like you who can’t understand why some people like it. Surely you can open up your mind . Not everyone is like you. Not everyone sees drug addicts in playgrounds , and most importantly, people with good jobs don’t watch fearmongering shite online, all day long. Everyone is so miserable online . No wonder everyone hates everything,
Not only Barcelona. I live in Mallorca and Real Estate prices are crazy. No one can afford living here, and the Government does nothing about it. I am worried my children will have to move.
The housing issue is not due to tourism or expats it’s due to the elders that bought all the houses and flats when they were worth nothings.
I don’t know how many retired people I have meet that own more than 20+ flats all around Barcelona and rent them as high as they can to take advantages of the others.
how is it their fault if all the people want to live in the center of cities?
@@muccisebastian9300 And they ignore the government keeps raising property taxes and utilities.
1) The housing is going up due tourism and expat because everybody wants to live here. 2) there is so many illegal migrants taking all the low rent houses. 3) Whatever is left becomes mediocre high priced apartments 🤷🏾♂️
It is high because squaters. They even have legal consultations in the government offices about how to squat houses and flats.
My mom has one flat to rent and had a squater for a year, and it was a quick eviction. So what Do you think people do with their flats? (paid in full with their work, by the way). Many hire to tourists or sell them. And who buys them in this economy? Big Companies, so instead of having middle class having an extra income, you have mega corporations owning the houses people need.
Before the squaters got laws that favour them, it was easy to find some rent by people that prefered to rent, low but secure, to a working person. Now, this is over, because the risk of ending with your house highjacjed for years is too high
Please check the rent in places like Zamora and Lugo and then again in Ibiza, Barcelona and Málaga and then the click, yes, expats and tourism ruins the cities for locals
Huh! Video is about Spainish people fed up with tourists and the video proceeds to interview a bunch of non Spaniards.
I know right. muy gracioso
This is what Barcelona has become. All the catalans have left for the smaller cities and towns around the capital or all the way to Girona and Tarragona. It's a shame.
@@Chronomatrixlmao. All the Catalans bought up the Eixample and Gràcia to rent out to a highest bidder from USA or Germany
So nobody comments that the actual problem is tourists taking all the apartments and the companies/owners that have those touristic rentals?
Baffling.
same story in Amsterdam / netherlands, we have the same issue over here ! Gentrifcation 1000%. Lot of people from other countries that have money spend a lot on renting and this makes it difficult for the people who were born here to even rent for a normal price. Its horrible and messed up. Shopping for groceries cost you at least 80 / 100 euro per week or you can do for cheaper but that means bread and cheese and water..thats it.
I also lived in Amsterdam and it was financially very difficult. I can 100% confirm.
This happens in good sounding cities. I can't really name you one where you can consider a cheap living while job opportunities are stable.
Where are they come from? Just curious.Netherlands have one of the highest salaries
The Same in Hamburg, Berlin, Frankfurt 😮
Bro, I'm Portuguese lived in the Netherlands a year ago and you have it easy, your bills are all included we have to pay 1600 onwards plus bills
Also, the minimium wage is not 1100, but avarage wage. Minimum wage is less than that.
Please ask people that have been born there and you will see what's their depressing and drasticly changed reality.
Stop lying, it is 15876€ per year as of Jan 24, that's 1323€ in 12 pays or 1134€ in 14. Average wage is way higher, just a google search away, go figure.
@@PTSeTeif you did your research correctly you would know that the salary increase happen this February, 2024. And that is because people is complaining and requesting it for a long time. Average salary is 1.5k and flats start at 1.2k, so seems that we still have a problem right ?
Don't talk like you know about a topic if you have no idea.
@@darkarie Yea and we are in September 24 so it was a lie, super hard to grasp. Average salary is more than that, modal salary is around 1600€.
Yes Bcn is super expensive, move to Terrasa and you'll find nice flats for 6-700€
It is the same in every mayor city in Europe.
No it's not
True, it is.
@@s_t_n_l nonsense, people don't behave like the Spanish elsewhere, most places are welcoming, it's ironic because Spanish tourists are unpopular worldwide, especially here in Thailand
Around the world but small minded people from these towns that go NO WHERE keep complaining. Those are the people the world will simply pass by. A country that made up it's mind to get most of it's money from tourism now cries about tourism. It's also a democracy. What people WANT! So wtf are they complaining about. They should cry to themselves for making poor decisions in their past but instead blame everyone BUT themselves!
@@letsgetdoingI agree
Everywhere is the same in europe for ordinary folks
Barcelona city, Barcelonés Region, is surrounded by a major industrial park. You only have to leave the tourist center to go looking for work. When talking about BCN, we always see long-stay tourists talking about their experience in a society they don't know. If you want to know, ask a local. Go to industrial areas and ask at the companies.
yes. true. there is Taragona
@@eliotness4029 Tarragona? It is another city, capital of the province , located km from Barcelona. It has nothing to do with Barcelona city and its Industrial Park,
Barcelona industrial park is hugee
Just so you know, life isn't a bed of roses here in the UK. At least you lot have regular sunshine.
its kind of ironic , because this year in Greece we have many tourists from Spain. Sadly especially one family from Barcelona claimed the beach and sea belonged to them and began throwing rocks and taking pictures of us and in the end forced us to leave. Apparently a presence of a greek stopped them from swimming
For real??!
Double Standards everywere.... Barcelona are katalan not spain . They say that all time ❤ we need to say that rich use our neighbourhood as there movie Park 😂
@@bazbbeeb7226 sadly yes
@@citpelocitycit7663 true catalan, haha something like that. i guess double standards true butfor me on a personal level i would respect the people and culture of the area i am visiting
@@s.d.sutcliffe8347 totally
This is all by design. Spain was allowed to enter the EU if they agreed to a deindustrialization in favor of Germany. This made Northern Europeans richer and Southern Europeans poorer. So now these richer Northern Europeans come to Spain and are just buying up Spain. A few decades from now Spain will not be from the Spanish anymore. This allready happened in the United States but it seems that the Spanish didnt learn much from history.
Join the EU was still the best decision we did.
Otherwise our future would look like Argentina 🇦🇷.
@@fatimateresa19 Lol. Spain doesn't need the EU. Spain needs to industrialize and then export their products to South and Central America, our brothers. Spain should also build companies inside those countries so the people in these countries have jobs as well and get out of poverty. That would be the best for Spain. Not being a puppet of the EUSA and letting foreigners buy up all your country. How the hell can you type such a senseless comment ?
You should really start following the videos of Pedro Banios because you are completely brainwashed and dont even realize it.
The fuck you talking about spain is owned by china
Entire southern Europe should leave the EU. Spain, Italy, Greece, Portugal, Cyprus, Malta, etc. Then make central and northern Europeans pay 50 euros if they want to enter the southern European countries during summer. Just for entrance, 50 euros! Watch the economy boom like Italy when it had it's own currency lira.
@@Just_another_Euro_dude At least some one with brains
Compatibility is key in choosing a flat mate. If you are older, you do not want a young flat mate. By the same token, if you are young, you do not want an older flat mate. Older people like peace and quiet, complete opposite of what most young people are after.
You have an amazing channel, I've been in BCN for 12 years, but thx to remote job, I moved outside, far from Catalunya. I have a much better quality of life and people is more friendly too :)
Thank you so much 🤗. Hope you are happy wherever you are
Tourism has a big impact on life of people, has transformed the city to a theme park. Noise, massification, high rent,inflation and insecurity rates. On the other hand, it does not have a positive impact on economy on the long term. The substitution of industrial sectors in favor of tourism oriented economy means easy money for business owners and companies but lower salaries for most of the population. The problem is not tourism, but a levels of tourism, that are no longer sustainable for the local population
Tourism is number 1 in GDP growth in Spain. The prices go up not because of tourism, but because of insane inflation thanks to decisions made by politicians in the covid times. Also tourists do not stay in Spain, they come and go. Only brainwashed ppl would blame tourism for their mistakes in life.
would these towns and cities exist without tourism? me thinks not.
Of course, they already existed before tourism was invented. Tourism has turned them into a trashy social attraction.
Mass force immigration from Africa not tourism
@@arriguneNot Barcelona. They have always had huge tourism. Tourism is not the problem. If Barcelona didn't have tourism it would be more or less like Marseille.
The exact same in Florence. The priority here seems to be tourists, foreign students and immigrants from undeveloped countries.
30-40 euro a week on food en Barna?? Eating what?? Napkins
😂😂😂
@@alexasrat9005€50,- a week is easy. Question of knowing how.
Some people are more frugal than others. I also spend less than 40 euros a week on food living in Lisbon, which nowadays is as or more expensive than Barcelona.
Hustling?
The minimum wage in Spain is about what I get in interest from the bank. I don’t have to do anything to get it. It must be a cheap place.
It reminds me of America where rich people constantly tell you "but it's a great country".....its not a great country if you pay 10 x what they pay for healthcare anywhere else on earth. It certainly is great for all the people living off dividend who only pay 15% tax.
It is a great country, it's the country of opportunity, like nowhere else on earth, let me tell you, and I have lived in various places.
Then leave Kevin
I'm in Canada and I wish I would be in the USA. Apart for meeting people like you indeed.
They don't pay 15% tax on dividends. It's 20%. And, if you are 35 and stuck at a c rap job till you are 67. That's on you to figure it out.
@@linav10😂😂😂!!there are so many other countries better than USA for living with huge opportunity and better quality of life.
08:15 The reason that woman managed to get a cheap apartment infront of the sagrada familia is because eventually the block will be demolished to finish the entrance to the church, so most apartments in that block are reserved for locals at a cheap price!
It's sad that someone in their 30s can't afford to rent alone, let alone buy a flat. Is there a country left where someone can live a comfortable life working in the local market?
Vietnam.
Really interesting video. Thanks for posting.
Thank you :). Happy to hear you like it
I watched the whole video, and I still couldn't understand what the problem was with tourists in particular.
Same happens in my country Kazakhstan. Low salary and increasing inflation getting situation worse yearly.
When I was briefly in Barcelona I bought things that were hand dyed from street sellers. They were local artisans and people just trying to make a living, but that was a long time ago 2007 and even then there were too many tourists. I felt aware of it and was self conscious about it. Usually I try to visit friends but I was en route.
My husband is originally from here and he is doing 3 jobs yet it's still very difficult.
While on the other hand I am living here in Spain for a year and a half only, I am doing an 8 hour job a day and still trying to take care of our 3 year old daughter is very difficult.
We don't know how to survive with our economic problems.
We are both earning yet we still struggle.
In Málaga, we are in the same situation...
I visited Málaga a few months ago and booked a hostel and was shocked there were blocks and blocks of buildings that were just rented out on AirBnB or booking. And the hostel/AirBnB's weren't cheap either.
The problem is unmanaged immigration and a global housing crisis in Urban areas. Be grateful that you have tourism. Those that don’t become dead abandon communities unless they have some other major resources or businesses to make up the difference.
these Spanish commies don't want to hear this though it's capitalism's fault not the low and unskilled people coming and taking their jobs and driving the wages down/ Commies rational is that of a mental patient unfortunately.
People should get upset with the owners of the properties that are being rented short-term to the tourists.
This is happening 😂
@@arrigune Not really, I see people acting out their frustration on random foreigners, rather than holding the owners responsible.
Mainly because the owners are usually los amiguetes or family.
It's the same with the loss of local culture. I have been living in the Barceloneta for 15 years now, and I have seen the majority of the authentic restaurants being sold to Pakistaníes.
Why?; because the "Spanish" young people have no interest in taking over those businesses.
@@MrBatraafthey should also blame government for allowing to own and rent multiple flats by one person, protecting squatters etc
the food prices in BCN are crazy, the rents are high, the water price is crazy too and there are shady practices to increase artificially the already skyrocketing water tax by reading less often the meter and assigning a hike in one single month which can double the price. I have no idea why the food price is so high here, I was in vacation in France in the country side and the food was half the price than in BCN. One reason for high rent could be the lack of flats, construction do not follow the increase in population, apparently half of the residents are foreigners or coming form other regions to find a job, probably moved in less than 15y ago, so how can we house so many people, the topology restricts the construction as well. Construction in Spain/Catalonia is now expensive thanks to regulations, old building are not comfortable but new ones are extremely rare. Circulating on the road is now ultra slow thanks to new policies, so you can't travel outside the public transport which take an hour to cross the city in most cases, so living far from the work where there are more housing options and better prices isn't convenient. I got the feeling that BCN was better to live in with a lot less population, I'm not sure tourism is the root cause.
This happens in Every country. Dublin is the same. But you can’t blame the people who come with money and contribute financially to your economy. Many people can’t afford to live in Dublin, definitely not buy property there and some were actually born there.
It's not caused by tourism in Dublin
Dublin was ruined by uncontrolled third world immigration
Plenty of career opportunities in Dublin but way too many lazy uneducated locals waiting around for a council flat for life
blaming Mass Migration of non Eurpean People would not Fit in this Peoples programmed Minds.
They are the Ones Occupying the Cheap Appartements that a Spaniard earning Minimum Wage would live in
@@g-man4744it’s also not a tourists fault in Barcelona. Blame government and their mass immigration laws from non-eu countries, blame landlords for high rent prices, blame local government for not building affordable housing and putting more and more laws to protect squatters
new york guy with NY salary is the reason people cant afford homes any more
Work harder then instead of going for oposiciones at stupid fucking government jobs 😂😂.
And how many people with NY salary lives in Spain? Milion? Is he responsible for rent price in your area? Again, nope.
Blame landlords, government instead of venting frustration on a random guy who pays taxes and spend his money in spain
@@p_like_piotr many people with outside salaries live in BCN, don’t know if you don’t live here, and yeah I can blame anyone I want, and I blame that guy
Thank you for the explanation, the articles don't reach this level.
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Its up to government to protect citizens. Its not the fault of those visiting. You know who's charging all that money? Other Spaniards. They are doing it to themselves.
I would take back every single negative aspect of Europe before the EU in a second. Every border check, every dirt road, every change of currency. Europe was an adventure back then and it was wonderful!
It was the same where I am from in Montana USA. I now live in South America, yes, displacing people here. Its a global situation and no one wants to be in charge except when its time to get paid.
But these guys that you interviewed are some part of the problem. Tourists come and go. But these guys stay and take jobs and apartments from locals.
Exactly. Everyone feels entitled to the land.
Tourists use airbnbs that were regular rent for people described in the video and now have to commute, leave or survive with low salaries and high rents.
Same as the Spanish diaspora does in Germany and the northern countries.
How is working people paying tax a problem? I’m a Swede living in Spain, I earn more than the average Spaniard in my field but that also means I pay more in taxes- which everybody use.
You did not have to spend any money on my education nor the cost of upbringing ( medical etc). I- as many others- come to your country and contribute to the economy from day one. You have no idea how Spain would look like without EU, you are delusional.
My landlord is Spanish but is working in Sweden. Should he not be allowed to earn more money in Sweden? Does he take away jobs from the Swedes?
@@Greyalien587actually Spain was way better before EU, look it up. Thanks for your taxes anyway.
BCN has graduated out of tourism for backpackers/university students. Get rid of Air BNB, hotel rates will go up, and youll get the type of tourists who can inject more money into local businesses - instead of budget tourists who seem to prioritize getting drunk. Plus, all those apartment units can be rented out to locals. The backpackers will go elsewhere - Valencia, Galicia, Morocco, Tunisia. Somewhere else. As for group tourists, they already stay in hotels on outskirts of the city and take their tour bus into the city.
I've already seen some tourists worried with the idea of forbidding airbnb. I'm looking forward to it.😊
Well like KL, local folks had move away from the CBD areas, most of them lives in suburban township and Cbd just for fun and works
The Hungarian is a hustler and singer and language instructor?😊😅😢😂
Shes got so much talent but zero drive or ambition sadly
How can you tell she doesn't have drive
In USA 1000 euros a month ( $1092 US dollars )
You will not make it
Rent a room $800
Groceries 200-300
Nothing left over
You would also have NO healthcare 🥴
America is deceiving place to live.
Actual minimum wage in Spain is around 1200€, healthcare is free ;) In Barcelona, if you are a skilled professional, you will earn way more than the minimum. There is no country where you can live properly with a minimum wage. Especially if you are aiming to a top 2 city in that country!!
You have healthcare through your employer and when you’re unemployed through the state. Don't want to work? This is not the place for you.
I remember a friend was renting in Florida for $1500 big 3 bdr house and a pool. Of course, no bills included.
Can anyone share a town name where one can live 'comfortably' on minimal legal wage?
'Comfortable' definition in this context: private apartment in good condition + 5-10% monthly savings capability
It’s not a problem - there are plenty of other tourist spots. Why hate on foreigners and tourists? This cost-of-living problem is global and it’s not the fault of tourism.
They are spitting on the plate where they eat
I mean, it sounds like it's a real problem for the locals. Just because it's happening elsewhere doesn't mean it's not a problem.
Same cost of living and housing crisis issues in Ireland and it's not 'wealthy' tourists that is adding to our problems, it's uncontrolled immigration.
yeah esapcially since they dont dare to hate on refugees...funny how that goes
@@erinfield1943 yet their reasonig is wrong
8:00 "My Brazilian friend, she has the Spanish passport... but she does not speak any Spanish" what an achievement!
then why live in Barcelona? You can move to Zaragoza, Bilbao or a 2nd tier city where the cost of living is much lower and you have a better lifestyle in the end
Bilbao is much better then Zaragoza in my opinion next year I’ll be buying a flat there 😊
Some people may have born in Barcelona. Moreover, 2nd tier cities are more and more expensive, and in small cities and villages there aren't jobs.
Bilbao is getting Bcn prices already.
And eventually the same will happen to those cities for the same reason you are telling people from Barcelona to go there instead. Also, moving to another city is not that simple for most people, as they have families, partners or simply an attachment to the city they were born in.
Here in the UK, the boomer generation got everything handed to them on a plate and then they voted for the party which benefitted them in the long term. When they patronise and say on how to save money etc they have amnesia and forget that when a house was purchased, they received Option Mortgage Scheme/Mortgage interest relief at source and the wage to house price was 4 times whereas now its 12-14 times and the salary per the economic outcome, has increased meaning you are paid less for the work done at all levels when in comparison to boomer generation.
Things are only going to get worse as time goes on but things might change a bit once the boomers eventually die out over time.
In 2014 when I was living in Barcelona :
Normal salary : 1,000-1,200 euros.
MacDonald salary : 700-900 euros.
To get an apartment between immigrants in some shithole of Barcelona : 450-500 euros.
Electricity bill, internet, water : around 150 euros.
Food : around 250 euros per month x one person.
Transportation : 100 euros for metro per month
Total : 1,050 euros.
An after 10 years you have a normal salary of 1,200-1,500 euros and a renting of 700-1000 euros.
What a joke.
As long as real estate is made an investment vehicle for everyone with money , housing crise will remain . There should be some checks on howany houses 1 corporation or person invests in
I keep saying...people are choosing degrees or skills, which the country/city doesn't need (or at least in such quantity). I'm coming from a country where a lot of kids choose to go to Humanities. Who needs 300 Historians every year? And then, they all want to live and work in Lisbon or Porto. If people would choose degrees or skills in demand, they would have a better job, thus more money to pay for their bills. And YES, governments also need to incentivize the workforce and create a more flexible labor law, so that investment comes in. Blaming tourists is just an easy excuse....
Not only work in Lisbon or Porto, but downtown! In front of the Sagrada Familia and with 2 Balconies. C’mon!
the governments in Europe do not push and encourage the stem subjects, finance, accounting, business, etc. and especially not non academic vocational courses such as plumbing, carpentry. everyone gets pushed into mickey mouse courses just to keep them off the unemployment stas for 3 years.
Trust me it's the same problem in USA major cities...but if someone want to settle down in the middle no where in USA it's dirt cheap but no jobs so you better learn how to rancher and farm.
Dirt cheap , where ?? More affordable then major cities, yes but dirt cheap is a stretch
Dirt cheap. Lol im from Utah. the cheapest state in the US. Until the californians came and ruined the place. Houses no joke, 7 years ago were 150k. now 500k. I am not joking.
And did my local utah job give me insane pay raises? Lol no.
Get an education and a job that pays better than working in a shop... It's not normal that someone making coffee in Starbucks should expect to live in a beautiful apartment in the center of town overlooking the plaza...
There are a lot of "victims" in Barcelona. They're always complaining about everything and often won't do anything towards bettering their own situation. I know many people who earn more than me but constantly tell me that they are poor and they always look to blame everybody else but themselves. The tourists, the government, the capitalism, bla bla bla, wa wa wa... suck it up and harden up. Rome wasn't built in 1 day. Studdy the job market learn where the money is and do that. What ever you do: Do not become an other psychologist or yoga teacher or art student. There are millions of those, the market is saturated. Learn a skill we need, marine mechanics, primery teachers, engineers, nurses... and if you like playing music or anthropology then do it as a hobby, you can still enjoy life.
Every job that I had in Barcelona before switching to programming was for the UK market. So I was basically working in the UK market remotely and paying taxes and pumping my earnings into the Barcelona economy. Just because the UK is a wealthier country it doesn't mean that the average working "expat" here is rich. Far from it. I came from a city with one of the highest unemployment rates.
The true problem is that all the wealth is being earned by the top 1%. This has been happening for decades now. And the top 1% love it when they see you attack immigrants because it provides a very effective distraction from the truth. It helps to delay the inevitable tax increases on the rich and laws which discourage property speculation.
Some of the comments in this video are just straight up xenophobic and ignorant. And these "locals" seem to feel justified because the people that they are attacking are not black or Muslim, but from Northern Europe. Left wing extremists are just as stupid as right wing extremists, and this provides a good example of that.
Spent alot of time in Spain, including Barcelona & I could never live there. I really don't understand why people struggle there, when just 20kms away they can live on half the costs.
Because living 20 km away implies 1h commute to work and back. And people like to avoid, if possible, wasting 2 hours every day in commutes.The public transport system (rodalies) is infamous for how bad it is, and how under-financed it is, and using private transport leads to long-lasting traffic jams.
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Yes sure I understand & that's the choices people make.
Each to their own & what people value most. Money, freedom, less stress, valuing nature or not etc.
It's like London & any big city...most people are just surviving, not really living.
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My commute there, was by scooter. A 20min ride each way & rental much cheaper.
Not now
The virtuous system made after WWII has been broken with privatizations of public companies and tax deregulation, mainly for the big capitals. After that reforms, States have been pushed to finance with debt; debt that circulates at the end of the economic activities and with low interest rates to the big capitals. This economical agents have broken the system; cause without tax regulation, they swim in cash; their huge liquidity is used to buy assets; creating an inflation movement that makes assets (like houses), impossible to achieve for the middle class. Capital is buying houses in all places and creating rents for international laptop elite. And without regulations, with each tax cut, the difference and the movement accelerate inequality and wealth concentration.
Let me get this straight, Barcelona a tourist city doesn't want tourists
Its not really a tourist city.
They could easily be describing London, except the parts where they say anything is cheap.
Yeah but nobody wants to live in London, especially nowadays. Bad weather, awful food, crime, etc.
@@alex31245is crime un London? You live there?
@@skull.18 No but I've been there on business plenty of times in recent years to see its complete degradation to a filthy, crime-filled ghastly, trash city. London used to be great, don't get me wrong, but those years are gone.
@@alex31245 same in Barcelona I live here
Add all the foreigners who come to live permanently with salaries from wealthier countries, as well as retirees from those same countries. There are already areas of Spain that are practically owned by foreigners because Spaniards can't afford to live there on their salaries.
Why ask the non-local non-educated non-regular-job people? Sure, they’ll ern little and complain much! In every city there are less lucky ones. Don’t see in this video a single person from HoReCa sector or full time job worker of Bcn, by the way they earn 25-40k, while blooming IT and cargo port jobs earn 60-80k in this same city. Very one-sided approach
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most are problems related to the capitalism so not specific to Barcelona!
Yes yes, socialism is the future
People of Barcelona for 14 minutes describing/complainig what it feels like living in ANY major city in the world
Do you really think that a waiter in any other million+ city can live whatever they like just on their wage?
So they can't complain? Is that it? No one working in a city should be able to complain about their salaries and the cost of living? What nonsense is that?
I agree. People need to get with the program. Cities are increasingly becoming corporate hubs. Low rent on individuals/people working unskilled jobs should not expect to live in the city, but rather in satellite towns. It is what it is. Beggars cannot be choosers.
@@Chronomatrix you didn’t get the point of my post, sorry. Read it again
What's the difference between expat and immigrant?
Usually an immigrant would come from a poor country, while an expat would come from at least as wealthy or even wealthier country to experience the culture, opportunities, not necessarily to increase their wealth.
For some reason they don't want to call themselves immigrant.
1:10 "Now that I am fluent in Spanish I am teaching Spanish too." Really? Who to? Can't they find a native Spanish teacher in Spain?
Remember she is an “artist”. Typical hippie. Look at how down to earth the Brazilian girl was in her assessment.
Many people prefer teachers who speak their native language, especially beginners.
El profe tiene que hablar ambos idiomas. ¿Hay muchos españoles fluentes en húngaro? Pero ella es húngara fluente en español.
For 900 a month, you have to commute at least an hour. The man from nyc was interviewed 10 years ago?
Nobody mentioned anything about how difficult is rising a child in a city like Barcelona.
Problems created by:
1) Joining the 🇪🇺. Spain can't close borders to Europeans
2) High taxes, leaving little for locals and companies (which leave or aren't created)
We went to Barcelona and stayed in a hotel so sorry locals were not guilty Airbnb users, I found locals really rude and was actually pushed by a woman on the street, wouldn’t go back again, you can feel as a tourist you’re not welcome but they’re happy to take your money in restaurants etc…
Its becoming that way here in Valencia 😢
Still not sure why the mismanagement of a countries' economy by successive, incompetent governments is the fault of expats and tourists. The tourist industry directly/indirectly is about 25-30% of Spanish economy easy. the expats coming here are not taking the jobs from locals, the jobs are being taken by the influx of low skilled worked into the country supply and demand economics. more labour supply = lower pay rates. when i worked in Barcelona I employed local contractors, local workers such as accountants, lawyers, surveyors, etc, etc, my job isn't Spanish born it is based in London and Monaco, so I'm taking a local's job, ratherI'm importing wealth into the country by hiring and spending locally.
Wealthy people are taking appartments/flats and paying lots of money for a rent, contributing to the increase in rent cost for other local poorer people.
25 - 30 % no way.
Why do people look or go abroad? The problems remain the same or they even get worse!
I am surprised with such low expectations. If you ask in Poland about salary to make ends meet in any bigger city, it would be like 2,5k Euro net.
Bear in mind that only one real local was interviewed here. Many were simply 'survivalists' coming from abroad.
In England that's a week's salary
@@kippsguitar6539 haha you are joking 😅
But sadly the economy is based on tourism.
What would
Spain do without turism? They dont have any strong industry so they should be glad that tourists Are coming in and spend money in theire country.
Let the tourist leave and watch them cry. They should be blaming their governments' lack of action. And not that of the tourist.
Exactly, they were kissing foreigners arses after the recession and now rejecting them
@@Serge-cm5mycouldn't agree more
@@kippsguitar6539 These people act like Spanish tourist are saints and they don't do price distortions. When they travel to places like Morocco.
@@Serge-cm5my that's true, Spanish people are not at all popular and never stop complaining when they spend money on dining or accommodation, some of the rental agencies in southern Spain won't accept Spanish customers for that reason and that's the truth, many Spanish costas restaurants don't like Spanish customers too as they spend so little and complain so much
Interesting how many locals complain about tourism (which influx so much money into the city), but not about okupas (squatters), freeloaders getting paid by the government for not doing anything, illegal immigrants living off the system with salaries for doing nothing, pickpockets (which never end up in jail as the Spanish law is so soft), huge taxes.
Basically, a local and national government that are totally hopeless in managing public funds, more worried into investing them in their own populist agendas.
Barcelona had always a big influx of tourists, but check what parties have been under Barcelona city hall in the last years, and check crime stats and city management since them, then you'd understand that tourists are not the problem whatsoever, but poor management.
Some of the things you mentioned are represented here: ruclips.net/video/tpgBBkLL2s0/видео.html
They should blame the government not the tourists and airbnb where is all those tourist money going ???
Without tourist Spain would go bankrupt in no time i'm afraid. I understand its getting to much, but Spain is partly build on tourist as well. Without it would go down fast. Cause when it comes to automotive industry, or technology or finance they have no position in Europe let a lone the world. They are depended on tourist. Spain has not developed its country to be competitive in different areas and has to much focus on tourism. The wages are far to low in Spain to live properly because they dont have leading or good positions in different industries.
Tourism in Spanish economy is its 13% GDP, it would have an impact for sure, but do not freak out that much.
That's simply not true. You are assuming a total elimination of tourism on an instant; things don't work like that. Also, the main benefiters of tourism are not the average citizens whatsoever.
@@arrigune you do realise 13% is like massive right? That's double digits. Which is huge. Even 2% is already significant. Let alone 13%. Like i've said. Spain does not have a leading position in many industries. They need the tourists.
@@Chronomatrix I mean a bakery, a restaurant, a camping or a hotel are all staffed with "average" citizens right. And yeah their wages getting paid a big part cause of tourist. So yeah of course the average citizens benefit. And by the way in Londen, Amsterdam, Paris or New York are all the same problems. The "locals" cant live their any more only the rich. Just how it is im afraid.
Most countries in this modern economic ecosystem will not survive without foreign talent and tourist. Look at Singapore, Malaysia, Thailand. These countries are successful with foreign talent and tourist.
Lisbon says "Hi".
and this is different to other major cities that attract inflow of non natives?
Si todo el mundo quiere vivir en la misma zona obviamente los alquileres van a ser caros porque ante la misma cantidad de inmuebles hay mucha más demanda si quieren alquileres baratos tendrían que irse a partes de España donde nadie quiera vivir
Y donde haya trabajo.
El problema es el trabajo. Hay muy poco trabajo fuera de las ciudades.
O pueden alquilar en barrios menos populares y menos caros de la ciudad!
yes but there are people that live there for generations, they have the right to stay. They are being priced out. The construction rate in BCN is way lower than the population increase. The overall density is now very high too. Maybe Barcelona needs to stop growing so quick or at least require the companies to hire a % of locals. Where I worked (I'm foreign too), locals are a minority. Ok it helps growing the economy but if it means growing the population with foreigners, the housing issue won't be solved.
@@raph151515 You are right 👍
I’m an expat from Texas that has been living for almost 8 years in Barcelona and soon relocating to Madrid. IMHO Barcelona has reached this situation, among other things, especially due to their Catalan politicians -and by this I mean the secessionist ones-. You can see those who were once normal people turn into sociopaths to the point they won’t serve you in a store if you don’t speak Catalan. I speak fluent Spanish and politics aside, I’ve never met anyone who would prefer learning Catalan over learning Spanish, and this comes from a purely efficient standpoint. Why would you spend time learning a language spoke by rougly 10M people vs another one spoke by 600M? I’ve never met a Catalan that prefers learning Cantonese over learning Mandarin either and for sure they’ve never been discriminated in HK for doing so.
Not to mention the insecurity problem with all the migrants. They don’t want tourists (however they like being tourists when they go abroad), but like to welcome refugees. I guess if you accept poverty your society will become poorer eventually as it’s happening by now.
Barcelona used to be an amazing, vibrant, top-tier world city, however now it’s really mid. To all the people staying or who can’t relocate, wish you all the best.
Cities are expensive, its the same everywhere, that's just how it is. I don't get why people are protesting in Spain, places in the south: Costa Blanca etc. thrive because of tourism, can't have it both ways...
dont worry, Bird Box Barcelona will fix everything. 😀