STAR CITIZEN - MINING, REFINING & FINE DINING - RSI ORION
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- Опубликовано: 20 окт 2024
- STAR CITIZEN - MINING, REFINING & FINE DINING - RSI ORION
In todays video we throw some speculation towards what will be the biggest mining ship to enter the verse that is the Monstrous RSI Orion.
More lasers than a disco this ship is huge and will be a money making machine crackin even the largest of asteroids. I think this ship will be a major asset to orgs and mining companies around star citizens verse. Still currently in concept and will be for some time, lets hope server meshing arrives quickly!
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I want one i need one! The Orion certainly a lot of potential and fun to be had with this vessel! But what do you guys think about this ship and how will you use it? As always let me know down below!
im in a PvP Org, and i picked one up just to help us fund wars and have a little pocket money left over.
@@0311matt I think your pockets will be deep my friend!
Thanks for the video. I kinda knew there is not much to find about this ship but i do mining most of the time and like it. I also own an orion when it comes out xD so gonna give the mining team lots of work
I got one when it was announced it and is one of only 2 ships I have not melted. For some the best OG multi crew ship is the Carrack, for others its the BMM, but for me, its this one!
This ship needs a bunch of features to be implemented: tractor beams, cargo refactor, self refining, drop cargo implementation, salvage, server meshing, docking.
add the Argo SRV to either tractor asteroids or lade cargo on the Hull series
Isn't most of that done, or nearly done ?
@@callmethreeone yes and no.
Cargo refactor is for 3.18… don’t expect the dependent ships to be implemented at that point.
Self refining is not in yet.
Salvage is starting in 3.17, won’t be fully implemented yet.
Ship to ship docking, not even on the calendar.
Server meshing, promised for 4.0.
So yes. We are close. No, not there yet. And no ETA date.
One year later we have: Salvaging, Docking, cargo refractor, tractor beam(no ship beams yet :(), cargo drop. We're missing server meshing, and self refining so we're making process 😅
In the past year... we're getting a lot closer.
There are three orion's with in my org including mine and 70% of the members love combat. I will probably sit in the belt by myself and when it's time to sell I enlist other members to escort me in for a cut.
There is a Org named "Multiverse Mining" we specialize in ORION mining and bodyguard duty for the fleet. If you own a ORION you can lend it to the org, and our org captains will crew them and earn money with it for you, damages and other costs will be taken care of, and you only need to look up your bank acocunt the next month. ;)
Or you can mine by yourself with a org crew or your own crew if you want.
The last time i checked we had 17 ORIONS in the fleet. ^^
Damn that's 😎
Thank you for making a video on this I love mining in games like this and I'm super looking forward to this. The potential this game has is off the charts!
This ship is why I even got into SC. I am a proud owner and honestly cannot wait to fly it.
thanks for the deep dive. i haven't seen a lot of content creators cover this ship of recent.
Your welcome thanks for watching o7
@@PIN-o7do you have an Orion in your fleet?😊
@SpaceAdmiral792t I do not. I have the arrastra atm buddy. Not sure if I will get the orion now I have that.
Sry if I don't understand you right, but as you said 384 SCU of Quantanium I just want to mention, that the actual idea is that the 384 SCU that the RSI Website saw, is for dedicated cargo not the Ore Containers. On several other sides you can find information that the dedicated Ore storage will include several thousand SCU not just 384 SCU. One the other side I think that the orion does not function as the other actual mining vehicles. I think that the Orion has cutting lasers as the Pictures said and the giant grinder in the middle shreds everything and throw out the inert, that you store only the real Ore. The Orion are so lovely and insane I can't wait to get my hands on this beast.
It also refines the raw ore before storage, at least as it's currently planned.
Currently scanning/radar allows players awareness of targets within 30km. With the advent of probes we could easily send the probe far away to see a 50-100KM sphere. An array of them would obviously expand that. Aquila, Carrack and BMM will have advanced sensor suites enabling even greater sensor ranges perhaps 1000s of KM. With all that in mind, how would you find a 340m Orion in the Aaron Halo that spans millions of KM? --- The Orion can in fact mine nearly on its own with a Terrapin, Aquila or Carrack spotter nearby. If the ship can pull asteroids to it, you would simply pre-align the ship to a QT point, leave QD spooled an mine away. As soon as your spotter sees anything approach, your gone to a random point in space.
Well I believe the devs have said that when this ship is in operation it will be easy to spot from great distances with huge light blooms similar to the operation of the pioneer. As for detecting the ship there are plenty of options hornet tracker for example. A well timed strike with a mantis and other ships could be effective. But until its here and we have more toys we can only wait and see how it all plays out. Either way will be fun to find out.
@@PIN-o7 Light blooms or other visuals may be visible to 100km or so, The massive EM/IR sig probably visible to 100s of km which still leaves it hidden in the vastness of space. It all comes down to how good of sensor suites we get and for which ships. I suspect even then, to find anything mining in an asteroid belt you will also need good intel such as known high value hot spots, transit corridors, or a spy in the org owning the ship. I seriously doubt any one ship will find a lone miner all by it self without a lot of luck and good intel.
@@vasilizaitsez7455 I agree especially with the belt being millions of k wide
i Did order this ship in the store, lot of potential and fun to be had with this vessel. In Concept Hull concept complete stand on the site.
There is planned development for the Orion this august. About 7 weeks of work. Might see something in December’s IAE.
Awesome background music, whats the name of that last song, can i listen somewhere? The last 20 seconds
i have one of these cant wait till its in verse. along side my banu mm/ hull d /persius /polaris and a couple of others.
You missed the automated Flak guns, so fighters and missles will need to be able to dodge those as well.
I can't wait to get into my Orion and bust up some rocks with my Org, Family and Friends!
There is a lot of mystery surrounding this ship which is intensifying my anticipation.
the thing i'm hoping to see in the future is more RTS style mehcniacs like a bit more like EVE / HOMEWORLD but being part of the drone opperator system where it's a MAP area and you have ping readouts and can function more like an opperator for NPC and player ships too.
I have on. Nice thing is that you get a Prospector and a Mole as loaner. Not so nice is the long waiting time until this beast will be released. Im really curios what the Concept Art team will do to this Ship this year. Hopeful we get some informations from CIG.
I want to say the Orion was the...48th ship I bought, I still don't regret getting it for LTI.
You'll need a crew though, this isn't a boat you're going to operate solo, not if you want to get any sort of efficiency out of all the systems available to you.
Well, CIG said You CAN operate it solo, just not as quickly as a full crew.
@@centralintelligenceagencyc4626 Just because you can doesn't mean you should.
It's a moot point considering the work they're doing on the AI; I expect and anticipate having a full NPC crew will be the norm and that having any number of players for crew will be the exception.
Almost every ship bigger than a fighter won't be soloable, really. There will be NPC's but I've come to accept that with teamplay being implemented, all those ships are going to be much much better equipped with human players. And are likely going to be quite the hassle to operate on your own.
There's a refinery ship in the works atm, I honestly can't think of any others, and with the Hull series coming out I would not be surprised if this popped up late this year or next year. Of course it could be longer, but they really seem to be steaming ahead this year filling in all the gaps and consolidating the back end
I sincerely hope so!
Orion is gojng to be massive
Hell yeah it is
the roadmap says the orion will be released the next but one patch. or am i wrong?
That is a mission I cannot wait to fly!
Early on, when they first announced it, they had the concept pack for sale along w/mining asteroid base for $350 or so. I bought mine shortly after announcment and they closed off the sale. I'm DYING to use this thing and have been planning my fleet and clan around it. It was originally supposed to be sized only a little smaller than a bagel carrier, but now is a full capital class and dwarfs the bagel carrier. Also went from crew of single digits to 12, then 50+. They stated from day 1 of it's concept it'll never be able to land PlanetSide, but we'll see. I have a warden and Andromeda to accompany it and a friend has a repair ship and another has a misc freelancer dur max to transport cargo, a third has a full harvester/transport. We're planning on providing in space repair and fuel services just like the fuel rats on elite dangerous, but also have others to go find some of the derelict bangel carriers and other ships the devs said they'd have out there. While everyone has to pay an arm and leg to salvage/repair them, ours will be free.....ish (operating costs). Still need more ppl though.
I really wonder what exactly would stop the orion from grinding up ship wrecks 🤷♂️
I'm pretty sure it can, can't give quotes or anything but the language I've seen suggests a crossover with the Reclaimer in terms of mechanics
@@uncannyvalley2350 I would assume so yes, differnece being the orion won't be able to reclaim parts in tact, power plants, weapons, shield gens etc etc 🤷♂️
@@Austintatious_One I'd imagine if they aren't removed by hand those components would probably just default to generic Hull metals
Or is that what you're saying?
Can the Reclaimer recover components?
@@uncannyvalley2350 I supposes yes.. The recalimer has specific equipment to remove components in tact and puts them into storage, although we don't know how yet..
They did mention that they where thinking of adding two mand drones/ships to facilitate this movement, it was also mentioned that they where thinking about using 2 vultures docked to the outside for this job.. 🤷♂️
Saying this though the orion is coverd in tractor beams and lazer cutters.. So who is to say that it could not use these to cut out parts and tractor beam them to one side.. This would require a skilled pilot with knowledge of the ships internals to accomplish, that and a ship to load the parts on to, or Cutlass to tractor beam the parts into the orions storage hold.. 🤔
I imagine that the recalimer will have computers for schematics used for dissecting ships more efficiently with less knowledge of internals needed on the pilots side.. 🤷♂️
Tank channel Tonk review right now and better be the best one ever🧐
Yes. YES. YEESSSSSS! Finally.
Regarding it's size, what is like to a HULL-E, smaller (doubtful), same, 25%, 50%, x2, plus? ;-)
I presume we'll be able to transfer material from one ship, ie: MOLE, Prospector to the Orion for refining, thus creating a mining fleet (with a Starferer for fuel and an Escort or two+ for cover)?
Orion is about the same size as an extended hull D. Check out fleet viewer online if you want to play with them
I have one. going to protect it with kraken, Idris or javelin. will need to experiment to find best combination. thanks for the video.
Once of the many reasons I have a perseus is to be an NPC crewed escort if that becomes an option.
Lol you going to be working your butt of keeping it safe. If it goes boom it will most likely mean a month to get it back from insurance.
PIN what org you in, and are they mostly British LADS ?
i'm in a very small org atm with my american buddies..however in the future i intend to create and open a larger org. When that will be i can't say as of yet .
i own the company pack and omg am i excited
The Orion looks like something of a hard sci fi shop I absolutely amazing as a sci fi nerd I love it also I hope this concept becomes reality she looks so sexy as a capital mining ship
Excellent video!
Thank you !
Personally feel like the raft is most likely cargo ship to keep it in the field due to the number of containers shown and it's economical operation. Tractor beam 3 off a full seperator, replace with 3 empties with no 3rd ship to help. Of course that's assuming they're using the same size cargo containers.
Have we heard anything about the release date of this ship? I have one, with unlimited lifetime insurance, but I've been sitting on it for years at this point. The wait is agonizing.
The only news I've seen is that teams working on it have re assigned to another areas, however I can't remember where I saw it on there website. I think it was the most recent roadmap update.
The question with this ship will be how to loot it and scrap it. For the Privateers in game this is the Great White Whale. This ship will be the birth of many fleet battles. It will have to be able to carry enough refined resources to finance a fleet for protection. A fighter escort isn't going to save this monster. I am looking at it having to be out for days to fill it. So refueling, hospitals, couple of ships with Hanger capabilities and so on will be needed. Use this ship with a small Crew at your own Peril
I wonder. I could see that. I could also see it be filled in an hour time, and be usable for 1 to 2 hour long operations to make a good profit. And this is not to downplay the Orion, but because of the realities of dealing with actual players.
If it's going to be a semipermanent setup with lots of infrastructure required around it... I don't think that would work in practice, because of the amount of people required to stay online for something like that and the amount of pay involved.
Having thought about this for a long time now, I'm starting to feel like things that require a near permanent stable infrastructure setup, will more likely revolve around (larger) player bases. Pure speculation on my part.
Ion own this game yet but when i do I'd imagine having 2 of this ships together with one Hull E guarded by 2 javelins and a fleet of fighters just in case all combat ready coz you will definitely be hauling around 20 million at one go divided between a crew of around 10 to 15 people for the whole fleet thats really nice profit
More like 160million.
2 Orions would be 8 to 14 crew, 2 Javelins would be 24 to 160 crew.
That's not 10 to 15 people. That's more like 32 people at a minimum. And likely running at low efficiency. The profits would be divided among 64, more likely.
Which is one of the reasons I don't think that this ship will necessitate that much crew to be involved, to operate successfully.
Hmm maybe.
Interesting. I do like that you said 2 Orions. Because for 1 that would clearly be overkill. But 2 Orion's finding a large enough ore field... Maybe it could work.
Bring it on!!!
Excuse me, for me being new to this game (and my English is not good) how can I get this ship? Thank you all
No problem.
Its not for
Sale at the moment. Its a concept ship that will go on sale in the future.
@@PIN-o7 Ok thanks, you know if it will cost with real money or in-game currency?
@@riccardopolidori541 both, I imagine $400 or higher. No idea about in game
Imagine an org with several Orions?
Definitely an org ship needing at least 3 to 4 hammerheads to escort around. It is a cash cow. I have size 2's on my mole so this monster has to have size 3"s. To get size 2's on the mole you have to upgrade it. Defaults are 1's. I suspect the drones are for transferring loads to haulers to move cargo from this ship. I hope others that have these are large orgs, just to operate them.
Current loadout for the Orion is two S5 turrets located top middle of the forward section and underneath back by the engine pods.
Before we get the Orin we will get the whole Hull series and the other unpublished RSI mining ship..
I'm betting this ship isn't for quantanium. I bet it's to gather our manufacturing materials...some day.
1 year later the recent citizencon showed that crafting will require rare materials
Im goona run this ship solo. I'm just goona turn on self destruct if someone tries to board me :)
At some point, mass has to count for something. It would be ridiculous this ship to be taken down by a light fighter. An arrow should be able to shoot it for a week and not penetrate its shields.
It's going to, armour and master modes are yet to be implemented.
Hey, first il say i have disposable income and a mad hobby called Starcitizen. So no matter how i turn this .. What i have done is insane and not adviced for ANYBODY!.
That out of the way. I made my fleet around the Orion. So first i have the Banu merchantman, second i got Nautilus to setup turret mines. Third i have a polaris if needed if i was to get destroyed, shift my crew to it and hunt down the bastards. Then i have the Orion ofc. And yes i have bought all the ships withe LTI (ccu Chains started back in 2014). So insane ;) But i belive in starcitizen and now you can start to see what it will be like.
It's not insane if you enjoy it, you don't need to explain yourself to anybody. It's no one's business but your own. Also noice fleet! 👌
@@PIN-o7 Thank you :) I dont think much about what other's think in the negative. But i do care for people to think long and hard about going my route in this game, DONT do it if you cant afford it several month's or years ahead! Cheer's :)
!!!! Thanks
🙂
The price of like 10x the 890 jump
It's not even half...
Twinkle twinkle little star...
I have a lti one and a prospector so will start off in my prospector to get a start off uec then get a mole to train npc then take out inc on the npc and put them in the orion but will then buy my own cargo ship and sell it myself and replenish food and drinks and what ever they need that way the orion is always in the belt and out of harms way and a safe npc is a happy npc I would also take a none direct root to sell and supply.
Smart
I will fly all alone cause I have no friends
no vtol for it's size, no atmos. size 5 are bad, no hit the small target and no damages on the bigger targets.
ITS NOT A COMBAT SHIP
@@PIN-o7 First, please, understand It is a combat turret. size 5 are the starfarer's main turret size, it's about the original size of the orion, with the rise in size, it's potential new predators, it's ability to evade being reduced, also it is more likely a wandering ship out for a long time like the reclaimer( something about 8 or 9 turret total) it is not a combat ship, the BMM have size 8 weaponry and a good coverage, it is not a combat ship, why not giving the orion some defences ? the Stegosaurus was not a predator, but it was deadly. This ship can be bad at combat because how it handles, no hangar, but good at defending itself, does that not makes sense ? because it have external cargo too. It need defend.
@@PIN-o7 It is true the raft or the mole have laughable weaponry, that's kinda like argo, that doesn't seem to apply to all industrial ships, the reclaimer, the hull series, have pretty decent weapons and coverage for their size, also some combat ships like the liberator displays weak weaponry and coverage. RSI always display some good weaponry on their ships so far. Most of the Connies are not combat ships, still they pack a serious punch for their size, the galaxy is also far from combat operations, it hold 3x the biggest orion's defensive turret.
This ship will cost 100 mill plus