That mill table will make a great addition to the shop.👍 Speaking about your shop..... Still waiting on a shop tour.😁 Have a Jesus filled day everyone Greg in Michigan
Mmw! Can't wait to see all the entries ..love those krauter handles , that little mill table is great , I think I need one of those for my drill press .
Very interesting tutorial on jewelling. The engine turned instrument panels on prestige cars from the 1930s that I have seen are things of real beauty.
Great video 👍That little hammer 🔨 would make a great addition to any workshop , it doesn’t have a long handle and it is not to heavy in the hand. That Kraeuter 8 inch pliers look really nice, I like the embellishmentson the handle. That was a fantastic find.👍 That little milling table looks really fantastic. I think that will make a great addition to your drill press. I think you got a great deal on that. I do see the difference in hand Jeweling & using the milling table for jeweling . The milling table looks like it will keep you work more accurate and straight like every time you use it, were by doing it by hand your work can be off and not straight. I can also see were it can make your work look more Professional like when advancing your work piece using the clamps provided with the milling table. Great information on using the milling table and jeweling or engine turning.👍👍 I think you made me a fan of jeweling.😂👍The jeweling one time you did to a old socket box and made it look fantastic was when I look at jeweling different. Now I kinda like it and it is fun to do. Well again great video and can’t wait for Friday’s video! 😃👍👍
@@smithtown6589 I was told for the rawl plug hand drill . A journeyman I apprenticed with retired and gave me several of his tools. I’m retired now but I still use that hammer.
@@michaeltardi3179 It makes sense, big side for the star drill and small side for tapping in the rawl plug. Thank you for getting back to me about it.
Very informative video. I am so in love with those Kraeuter. I collect them and have not had the pleasure of owning a set so nice. I can't wait to see every one's cars and can't believe you went so close to the wire finishing yours. Lol
I love your XY table. It is a good design and quality. I have a cheap Chinese version I purchased to mount a laser for a Rose Engine jig on my wood lathe which has a LOT of backlash, poor fit and finish, barely useable for this use. I would have picked up your XY table in a heartbeat. The jeweling with the XY table looks terrific. Dave.
Mr. John the milling table is pretty cool... I didn't realize that was a thing..hmmm... also, they sell clamps that are made to go into the T channels that would really be useful for that... of course i'm sure you know that.... thats nice...
That cheap directional drill vise is the guide for the Submerged Arc welder at work. Believe it or not, it guides the contact well enough for a nice looking RT quality welding job.
That little table makes all the difference... Your game with the jewelin' was already top shelf I think... now I can't wait to see where this take it! Man! Good Stuff Mr. John
Knurling is a different operation than jeweling or engine turning. Knurling is a forming operation normally performed on a lathe. Surface material is displaced and formed into a pattern. It is usually purposed to provide grip or purchase.
That hammer is a bell systems hammer! They made two sizes in them. A larger one at 2 pounds I believe and the one you have. Some are marked bell systems and some are not. I have a few myself!
The jeweling looks great and how you explained the technique was very clear and helpful. The mill table is very useful and having spent many years as a machine operator nothing beats a precision table for any kind of machining. Thanks for sharing this.
I like your jeweling just as good as the machine stuff and at 1 whateveritwas, you were just getting ready to go walking by feeding yourself and all the varmints. Thanks, John CS and Happy car looking and BLESSINGS!!
What a great video. I have always wondered how that jeweling was done. Love that look. You sure do find interesting tools. Looking forward to Friday. Have a great day. 👍👍❤.
I have one of the cast iron XY tables. It is minimal at best. Still it allows me to use the drill press to mill slots. The thing I have to do is use the end mills as they were designed and the drill press as designed. Both were made for straight up and down cutting with the end of the tool. Unless the drill press has a draw bar to hold the tool holder/chuck in the spindle it can fall out if the cutter is drug sideways through the cut. Also the drill press bearings are installed to handle end load not side load. In any case your XY is a very nicely arranged rig. $25.00 is a steal.
There was a guy named Josè Rodriguez who put out videos on VHS before RUclips on how to do simple machining operations at home and I bought his tapes. He used to mill on a drill press using end mills and very light cuts. It took a while but for softer materials it was an option! 😃👍
My wife gave me a Hamilton RR pocket watch some 30 years ago that was dated 1908. Initially I carried it for several years always marvelling at the workmanship and extreme accuracy. The embellishment and engine turning is nicely done; now I know how it was done, but in miniature. Great information, Thanks!
So glad you've been enjoying the challenge you set too as I know it causes you a lot of work ! I've not been able to participate this time for a number of reasons but I've already been enjoying yours and the many other videos put out by you followers about their entries - great stuff, some very creative people out there ! You got some nice items there at the tool meet, that's an interesting little hammer and the pattern on the pliers is so evocative, but that x y table is just the job, thanks for the jewelling teach-in !
The jewling is very interesting, I have to try it. Sorry I could not participate in the challenge but looking forward to seeing all the entries. Thanks again.
Great lesson there Scout and I learnt something I didn’t know I needed to know. I’m really looking forward to Friday’s show because some of those entries are going to be amazing. Cheers Stu. 🇦🇺
Nice video on the jeweling. Thank you. I have been following some of the channels on their entries but I know I am missing a number of channels too. Looking forward to seeing all the entries.
Seems like a really fun thing to do and something I will have to try in the future. I am wondering what would happen if you used steel wool instead or other materials. Would be fun to see a test of different kinds of abrasives. Thank you for sharing yet another great episode!
Well, now you did it! I have admired your jeweling work but was content to just enjoy looking at it, but then you go and show us how simple it can be. Something else I'll have to play around with. lol
Some nice stuff there the x/y table looks like a good one nice and solid good feel in the hand great little midweek mosh scout god bless take care 🇺🇸🇳🇿💪🦡👏
Thanks so much for showing us how to do the jeweling, that was great. I’m tempted to try that one of these days on a tool. Appreciate so much you sharing and have a great day.
HUGE difference from your XY table compared to free handing. Don’t get me wrong your free hand jeweling looks great! But on that square steel you used, you can see how straight and uniform it looks. Nice pick up for $25.
I'm afraid to try the jeweling now I've seen that work on the table.. I have a never ending list of jobs anyway! I look forward to Friday...this year is going by so fast already.
I might be in the minority. But personally I am not a big fan of the jeweling look. However, I still found the video interesting and appreciate the work that goes into it. Thanks for the video.
John, a possible future topic is to really compare/contrast a drill press vs a milling machine. The difference goes way beyond an X-Y table. Mills are first and foremost about rigidity, rigidity, rigidity, as well as power, speed control, top grade spindle bearings, etc. I mention this because when my serious shop got started, I knew zero about machine tools. I tried to set up a bench-top drill press to mill, and learned it’s just not meant to be! I really don’t want someone else to make the expensive mistakes I did!
Do not use bolts instead of T-nuts on anything with Tee slots. Unless of course you want a nice chunk of your table broken out. The shop I worked in as an apprentice always jeweled the exposed non-functional surfaces on jigs and fixtures. The reason I was given was to retain an oil film to prevent rust. We used rubberized Cratex sticks in the drill press to do the work. The makers initials and date were also stamped on the work in a small milled out relief pocket. I still do both out of habit I guess. Of course, when you get old like me, you look at something and figure you must have made it.... your initials are on it. Cheers from NC/USA
That XY table was a buy...I'm not a metal guy but that table would be useful...I can think of a few things where jeweling would look good on a wood project...🤔 yeah very nice 🖖
Holy cow, I have that same hammer and still don't know what it is intended for. I use it occasionally for odd jobs that other hammers are too light for. If you find out what it is made for please share.👊👍🇺🇲
I see those tables on ebay and other sites but the top does not look like it made out of any thing substantial. However if it is good enough for the maestro then it will be good enough for me.
Now I bought this table because the price was right. However there might be better alternatives for the money. However here is the unit I believe- www.amazon.com/Lukcase-Multifunction-Worktable-Compound-Heavy-Sized/dp/B071V8PJ1S/ref=mp_s_a_1_6?crid=28JQOKLURSCLX&keywords=x+y+table&qid=1677735719&sprefix=x+y+table%2Caps%2C83&sr=8-6
Thank you great video thanks for the info ☕👍🇬🇧
Another informative videos John. Darn you now I need to go find me in XY table lol.
That mill table will make a great addition to the shop.👍
Speaking about your shop.....
Still waiting on a shop tour.😁
Have a Jesus filled day everyone
Greg in Michigan
Mmw! Can't wait to see all the entries ..love those krauter handles , that little mill table is great , I think I need one of those for my drill press .
I will have to stop watching Scoutcrafter creating too many wants.
Happy you found the X Y table makes a great tool for your jeweling
I just knew when you were trying it out you were going to purchase it. He who has the most tools before him passes wins 😉
Very interesting tutorial on jewelling. The engine turned instrument panels on prestige cars from the 1930s that I have seen are things of real beauty.
Good stuff again today John. Thank You for sharing!
Thanks for the jeweling tips. Good Luck, Rick
My good friend and gunsmith Glenn Cameron jeweled custom firearms with the eraser of a new pencil. Worked terrific. I own a couple of fine examples.
Gunsmiths are in a class of their own. Experts in many fields. 😃👍
You make the most informative, entertaining, and interesting videos. Thank you.
The nurling tips are great. Thanks a lot for that.
Great video 👍That little hammer 🔨 would make a great addition to any workshop , it doesn’t have a long handle and it is not to heavy in the hand. That Kraeuter 8 inch pliers look really nice, I like the embellishmentson the handle. That was a fantastic find.👍 That little milling table looks really fantastic. I think that will make a great addition to your drill press. I think you got a great deal on that. I do see the difference in hand Jeweling & using the milling table for jeweling . The milling table looks like it will keep you work more accurate and straight like every time you use it, were by doing it by hand your work can be off and not straight. I can also see were it can make your work look more Professional like when advancing your work piece using the clamps provided with the milling table. Great information on using the milling table and jeweling or engine turning.👍👍 I think you made me a fan of jeweling.😂👍The jeweling one time you did to a old socket box and made it look fantastic was when I look at jeweling different. Now I kinda like it and it is fun to do. Well again great video and can’t wait for Friday’s video! 😃👍👍
Steven- Thanks so much buddy!
That’s a bell telephone hammer . I had one in my tool bag for 25 years. Perfect weight.
What specific job were they used for? Bell wasn’t generally nilly-willy about their tools and their use. Many thanks.
@@smithtown6589 I was told for the rawl plug hand drill . A journeyman I apprenticed with retired and gave me several of his tools. I’m retired now but I still use that hammer.
@@michaeltardi3179 It makes sense, big side for the star drill and small side for tapping in the rawl plug. Thank you for getting back to me about it.
@@smithtown6589 your very welcome .
Very informative video. I am so in love with those Kraeuter. I collect them and have not had the pleasure of owning a set so nice. I can't wait to see every one's cars and can't believe you went so close to the wire finishing yours. Lol
What a great tip! Never thought about using a mill style table for jeweling!
As usual,great segment on jeweling,can't wait to try this. Again thanks as always
I love your XY table. It is a good design and quality. I have a cheap Chinese version I purchased to mount a laser for a Rose Engine jig on my wood lathe which has a LOT of backlash, poor fit and finish, barely useable for this use. I would have picked up your XY table in a heartbeat.
The jeweling with the XY table looks terrific.
Dave.
The small details are the hardest to do when making any finished product look Great Thanks for always explaining the details. It saves so much time!
Mr. John the milling table is pretty cool... I didn't realize that was a thing..hmmm... also, they sell clamps that are made to go into the T channels that would really be useful for that... of course i'm sure you know that.... thats nice...
Another great episode John , watch for the FedEx truck !
That cheap directional drill vise is the guide for the Submerged Arc welder at work. Believe it or not, it guides the contact well enough for a nice looking RT quality welding job.
That little table makes all the difference... Your game with the jewelin' was already top shelf I think... now I can't wait to see where this take it! Man! Good Stuff Mr. John
Knurling is a different operation than jeweling or engine turning. Knurling is a forming operation normally performed on a lathe. Surface material is displaced and formed into a pattern. It is usually purposed to provide grip or purchase.
Great lesson on jeweling thanks so much 👍
That hammer is a bell systems hammer! They made two sizes in them. A larger one at 2 pounds I believe and the one you have. Some are marked bell systems and some are not. I have a few myself!
The jeweling looks great and how you explained the technique was very clear and helpful. The mill table is very useful and having spent many years as a machine operator nothing beats a precision table for any kind of machining. Thanks for sharing this.
I like your jeweling just as good as the machine stuff and at 1 whateveritwas, you were just getting ready to go walking by feeding yourself and all the varmints. Thanks, John CS and Happy car looking and BLESSINGS!!
What a great video. I have always wondered how that jeweling was done. Love that look. You sure do find interesting tools. Looking forward to Friday. Have a great day. 👍👍❤.
Very good , now I'll have to find one of those x-y tables at the flea market this summer. I've always wanted to try jeweling.
great video.....cheers from Orlando, Florida, Paul
Thank you for all you always do!! The best!!
Holy cow that really took it to another level. I want to try jeweling on a project I just dont have anything in mind to do it on.
Nice lil' table!! Excellent tutorial Bud!!☻
Thanks for going over the Jeweling again. I think I got it now, I will try it very soon.
I have one of the cast iron XY tables. It is minimal at best.
Still it allows me to use the drill press to mill slots. The thing I have to do is use the end mills as they were designed and the drill press as designed. Both were made for straight up and down cutting with the end of the tool.
Unless the drill press has a draw bar to hold the tool holder/chuck in the spindle it can fall out if the cutter is drug sideways through the cut. Also the drill press bearings are installed to handle end load not side load.
In any case your XY is a very nicely arranged rig. $25.00 is a steal.
There was a guy named Josè Rodriguez who put out videos on VHS before RUclips on how to do simple machining operations at home and I bought his tapes. He used to mill on a drill press using end mills and very light cuts. It took a while but for softer materials it was an option! 😃👍
Beautiful. Great technique.
My wife gave me a Hamilton RR pocket watch some 30 years ago that was dated 1908. Initially I carried it for several years always marvelling at the workmanship and extreme accuracy. The embellishment and engine turning is nicely done; now I know how it was done, but in miniature. Great information, Thanks!
RR grade pocket watches are just beautiful! 😃👍
So glad you've been enjoying the challenge you set too as I know it causes you a lot of work ! I've not been able to participate this time for a number of reasons but I've already been enjoying yours and the many other videos put out by you followers about their entries - great stuff, some very creative people out there !
You got some nice items there at the tool meet, that's an interesting little hammer and the pattern on the pliers is so evocative, but that x y table is just the job, thanks for the jewelling teach-in !
The jewling is very interesting, I have to try it. Sorry I could not participate in the challenge but looking forward to seeing all the entries. Thanks again.
Interesting presentation on jeweling. First I have seen of that type of hammer, looks like it could be pretty handy. Thanks for the video sir.
The ones I've seen are marked "Bell Telephone".
Great lesson there Scout and I learnt something I didn’t know I needed to know. I’m really looking forward to Friday’s show because some of those entries are going to be amazing. Cheers Stu. 🇦🇺
I’m excited to see the entries! Good luck everyone!
Nice video on the jeweling. Thank you. I have been following some of the channels on their entries but I know I am missing a number of channels too. Looking forward to seeing all the entries.
That’s a really nice cross slide. Certainly makes jeweling and other tasks on the drill press much easier. Great job!👍🇺🇸
Seems like a really fun thing to do and something I will have to try in the future. I am wondering what would happen if you used steel wool instead or other materials. Would be fun to see a test of different kinds of abrasives. Thank you for sharing yet another great episode!
That came out so nice. You make it look easy.
Well, now you did it! I have admired your jeweling work but was content to just enjoy looking at it, but then you go and show us how simple it can be. Something else I'll have to play around with. lol
"Snoop", tanks for sharing...hope all is well
Some nice stuff there the x/y table looks like a good one nice and solid good feel in the hand great little midweek mosh scout god bless take care 🇺🇸🇳🇿💪🦡👏
Thanks for the jeweling class - I was wondering how you did that - guess I wasn't alone
GOOD ONE, KEEP SAFE ND WELL
What an episode good video.
Holy Cow! I forgot about it, I may have to send in some slightly unfinished pictures or maybe I can finish some painting before midnight.
Well here I thought it March 1 this year was just for Pink Flyod 50th Dark Side of Moon Day only! I sitt corrected.
Thanks so much for showing us how to do the jeweling, that was great. I’m tempted to try that one of these days on a tool. Appreciate so much you sharing and have a great day.
HUGE difference from your XY table compared to free handing. Don’t get me wrong your free hand jeweling looks great! But on that square steel you used, you can see how straight and uniform it looks. Nice pick up for $25.
I'm afraid to try the jeweling now I've seen that work on the table.. I have a never ending list of jobs anyway! I look forward to Friday...this year is going by so fast already.
I might be in the minority. But personally I am not a big fan of the jeweling look. However, I still found the video interesting and appreciate the work that goes into it. Thanks for the video.
One additional benefit of jeweling, is it's ability to have a lubricant cling to it. I've seen it done with that goal in mind.
John, a possible future topic is to really compare/contrast a drill press vs a milling machine. The difference goes way beyond an X-Y table. Mills are first and foremost about rigidity, rigidity, rigidity, as well as power, speed control, top grade spindle bearings, etc. I mention this because when my serious shop got started, I knew zero about machine tools. I tried to set up a bench-top drill press to mill, and learned it’s just not meant to be! I really don’t want someone else to make the expensive mistakes I did!
Gotcha 👍👍🔩🔩
Do not use bolts instead of T-nuts on anything with Tee slots. Unless of course you want a nice chunk of your table broken out.
The shop I worked in as an apprentice always jeweled the exposed non-functional surfaces on jigs and fixtures. The reason I was given was to retain an oil film to prevent rust. We used rubberized Cratex sticks in the drill press to do the work. The makers initials and date were also stamped on the work in a small milled out relief pocket. I still do both out of habit I guess. Of course, when you get old like me, you look at something and figure you must have made it.... your initials are on it.
Cheers from NC/USA
That XY table was a buy...I'm not a metal guy but that table would be useful...I can think of a few things where jeweling would look good on a wood project...🤔 yeah very nice 🖖
I have seen some knife makers do jeweling on larger pieces
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Holy cow, I have that same hammer and still don't know what it is intended for. I use it occasionally for odd jobs that other hammers are too light for. If you find out what it is made for please share.👊👍🇺🇲
I see those tables on ebay and other sites but the top does not look like it made out of any thing substantial. However if it is good enough for the maestro then it will be good enough for me.
For light duty work this is a nice table however the real heavy duty ones are very expensive!
@@ScoutCrafter You mean I can not flatten a straight 6 engine block on it.
Hi John nice milling table👍do know the brand name? Thanks.
You really stole that John.
YEEZUGO Multifunction Worktable Milling Working Table Milling Machine Compound Drilling Slide Table For Bench Drill(Heavy Size)
Brand: YEEZUGO
3.9 out of 5 stars 147 ratings
$105.99
What speed do you use when engine turning?
will the sand paper cleaner cleanup that tip?
Not on scotch brite it seems to just fall apart. 😃👍
Great video Scout, any model number for that table make? 👍👍
Now I bought this table because the price was right. However there might be better alternatives for the money. However here is the unit I believe- www.amazon.com/Lukcase-Multifunction-Worktable-Compound-Heavy-Sized/dp/B071V8PJ1S/ref=mp_s_a_1_6?crid=28JQOKLURSCLX&keywords=x+y+table&qid=1677735719&sprefix=x+y+table%2Caps%2C83&sr=8-6
@@ScoutCrafter Thanks Scout.
Who makes that xy table
www.amazon.com/Lukcase-Multifunction-Worktable-Compound-Heavy-Sized/dp/B071V8PJ1S/ref=mp_s_a_1_6?crid=28JQOKLURSCLX&keywords=x+y+table&qid=1677735719&sprefix=x+y+table%2Caps%2C83&sr=8-6
Cratex works better and more consistently
Yes- It’s a bit pricey though. Also you need a holder for it. 😃👍
@@ScoutCrafter If you compare the two you get more consistency and it is cheaper than the brushes.
This is NOT jewelling and NOT engine turning! It is pearlage. Get u your terminology right