The State of Cinemassacre and AVGN in 2022

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  • Опубликовано: 1 ноя 2022
  • In this video I review the current state of Cinemassacre after the decision was made to phase out on camera appearances of any of the Screen Wave slobs.
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  • @DancingwithGhosts
    @DancingwithGhosts  Год назад +74

    i know this video is getting more popular because all of the cinemassacre simps are starting to flood the comments 😁👍👍

    • @ToonCatTV
      @ToonCatTV Год назад +39

      no we're literally getting recommended this by youtube, we dont like redditors explaining how a channel is "dying" we're just here to watch youtube vids

    • @Max-ej4oh
      @Max-ej4oh Год назад +18

      What... popularity? your videos barely pass the 10k threshold mostly are just 1k 2k views.
      Like damn, doing numbers. Lol.
      I recommend getting an actual job pretty soon.

    • @DancingwithGhosts
      @DancingwithGhosts  Год назад +6

      @@Max-ej4oh 15k**

    • @andykishore
      @andykishore Год назад +9

      @@DancingwithGhosts I literally just typed in "Cinemassacre" into the RUclips search bar and this video keeps coming up.

    • @ToonCatTV
      @ToonCatTV Год назад +19

      @Nero what's funny about just reveling in negativity? This isn't leafy

  • @jackcarraway4707
    @jackcarraway4707 Год назад +149

    The Screenwave guys are a charisma black hole. The difference between them and Matei/Kyle/Bootsy is night and day.

    • @GoodFellasPizza08
      @GoodFellasPizza08 Год назад +2

      Ong

    • @thedrewdog
      @thedrewdog Год назад +18

      I can't stand Ryan's voice. At first I said "I'm sure he's an alright enough guy, give him a break" but then he started holding the show hostage with his ramblings, and he clearly LOVES the sound of his own voice and thinks that people are actually engaged in what he has to say.
      NO, it's because he signs their checks, it's like when the crew would laugh at Tony Soprano's dad jokes.

    • @commandervile394
      @commandervile394 10 месяцев назад +4

      Isn't he the one who got tr00ned out? Just what we need...a mentally ill and confused dude at the helm of the group. @@thedrewdog

    • @JosephWalker-ip7pd
      @JosephWalker-ip7pd 10 месяцев назад +4

      Screenwave guys did suck bootsy was barely apart of anything they did really and I wouldn't exactly say he has charisma. James mike and Kyle were definitely the best though.

    • @skibidi.G
      @skibidi.G 9 месяцев назад

      Yeap

  • @SpecialAgentEBunny
    @SpecialAgentEBunny Год назад +29

    That picture of Justin shirtless is something that will haunt my dreams for years to come

    • @DancingwithGhosts
      @DancingwithGhosts  Год назад +8

      🤣 sorry about that

    • @ColinBurkeMusic
      @ColinBurkeMusic Год назад +2

      @@DancingwithGhosts Duuude WHAT? I'm glad I missed it, if it was in the video....FML that's never something I want to to see.
      When I first saw the dude I was thinking to myself "did Craig from Malcolm in the middle get younger somehow?" I just didn't know who TF Justin was was- and rightfully so- he doesn't have anything notable to bring to the creative world.
      I guess that's how it is tho. Us peons, even the talented ones scrape to try and make it and the fatcats skate by, at least in this case.

    • @neoturfmasterMVS
      @neoturfmasterMVS Год назад

      Like a real life Fat Bastard.

    • @andykishore
      @andykishore Год назад +1

      Agreed.

  • @gojiguy5436
    @gojiguy5436 Год назад +108

    It’s probably the nostalgia, but I prefer the lower quality camera/different aspect ratio of the early videos. It made if feel more simple and genuine.

    • @chango_fett
      @chango_fett Год назад +3

      I agree, my favorite seasons are from 1 to 5

    • @Zharrgrim
      @Zharrgrim Год назад +5

      That’s the reason why the channel won’t last

    • @TheMovieHangout
      @TheMovieHangout Год назад

      Same here.

    • @sennedriesen4072
      @sennedriesen4072 Год назад +8

      It's not just nostalgia. Those early episodes where a lot more creative. Now it is just him sitting in the coach, no music, no weird camera angles, white flat lighting, bad green screen (just use a spill suppressor!!!!) .... James wants to be a visuals artist, a filmmaker! So it is very sad to see content relayed only on script. Bad scripting.

    • @brosephh7130
      @brosephh7130 11 месяцев назад +2

      I find that as we dive deeper and deeper into ultra high definition with pristine OLED displays, the more desirable and appealing the low res displays/ cameras become. It’s nostalgia for a simpler time, a time that is long gone. It’s bittersweet.
      Tech comes at us so fast now that it’s impossible to keep up with it. It makes me feel fatigued. If you ate nothing but cereal for a week, you get tired of it and stop eating it for a while.
      The simplicity of operation is also a factor.
      You didn’t have to spend an hour calibrating your TV, worrying about Gamma, HDR10, peak brightness and so on.
      In the same way, retro gaming exploded in popularity in part due to fatigue of the tropes of modern gaming.

  • @OldBuford
    @OldBuford Год назад +140

    Board James is imo some of his best work.
    It starts off pretty straight forward, a guy and his friend play a board game where they play out certain scenarios to show what the game is all about and throw in some comedy. As soon as Bootsy gets involved the show ascends and it eventually builds into a couple of really well made short films.
    Granted it does go off the rails later in the series but even until the very end they were at least well made and you can tell everyone involved was committed to it

    • @ryangeorge2502
      @ryangeorge2502 Год назад +21

      Tornado Rex, when the devil calls your name, you better fucking abide!!!!

    • @nameofthegame9664
      @nameofthegame9664 Год назад +13

      If he made his movie based on Board James instead of the Nerd I bet you it would have been a decent comedy/horror movie instead of the train wreck Avgn the movie turned out to be.

    • @DancingwithGhosts
      @DancingwithGhosts  Год назад +34

      damn i guess i really need to give board james a shot then

    • @troybilko
      @troybilko Год назад +10

      Board James was his most creative thing he’s done on Avgn. Can’t continue it now though because he’s fired and lost the talent from those episodes and so on. Sucks when bridges get burned.
      The dream phone episode was pretty funny imo

    • @JosephBlack
      @JosephBlack Год назад +6

      Board James is the creativity in storytelling we expected with the AVGN Movie.
      Could you imagine a Nolan/Lynch-esque dark horror-comedy? -glad we got Board james though

  • @Steambull1
    @Steambull1 Год назад +29

    That "lost tape" in the Last Ninja ep was not actually from the past, James did it for the episode. He does many obvious parodies of what he considered "low effort" in the early videos, and speaks with a more shaky voice on purpose.

  • @selfaware7617
    @selfaware7617 Год назад +79

    The AVGN side never got bad. It's just the screenwave dudes with no personality. Mike and Bootsy and Kyle will be missed.

    • @FSAPOJake
      @FSAPOJake Год назад +8

      Mike already came back.

    • @Gage_Brumley
      @Gage_Brumley Год назад +8

      AVGN has sharply declined in quality though ever since the movie. Jame's anger isn't genuine anymore and it's clear he doesn't fully write the scripts or care about some of the games he reviews.

    • @FSAPOJake
      @FSAPOJake Год назад +2

      ​@@Gage_Brumley I see it as the Nerd character evolving with James. He's aging, and getting a little more worn down, mellowed-out and ambivalent than he used to be.
      Definitely not intentional, but it kinda works.

    • @BananaPhoPhilly
      @BananaPhoPhilly Год назад +1

      @@FSAPOJake I just wish that list didn’t also include “being less funny”

    • @BareBandSubscription
      @BareBandSubscription Год назад +7

      @@Gage_Brumley
      Since the movie? Brother, it’s been declining since 2007 lol. I speak as an AVGN oldhead here: 2006 was the peak of the series. By 2008, it was already a totally different show from what it was two years prior imo. That’s why I find all this discourse about AVGN’s declining quality the last couple of years to be a bit weird. It’s like watching Star Wars fans complain about the Disney era while pretending the later Lucas era wasn’t awful. I’m just glad he’s still around. James Rolfe has given me so many hours of free entertainment that I will cherish dearly for perhaps the rest of my days, especially those early Nerd videos. That stuff legit helped me get through my adolescence and inspired me creatively (still kinda does). He could make the next Nerd episode a ten minute close-up shot of his teeth, and I’ll still support it. He doesn’t owe me or anyone else anything.

  • @paulrodriguez7255
    @paulrodriguez7255 Год назад +5

    Low blow going after the poor guys hair line

  • @segaboy9894
    @segaboy9894 Год назад +16

    Imagine if Cinemassacre was just James Rolfe 'exposing' people...

    • @almsahrah
      @almsahrah Год назад

      I wonder if he'd expose the fat disgusting pedophile he does podcasts with and relies on to do his work for him.

    • @orenges
      @orenges Год назад +1

      HAHAHAHA

  • @49short
    @49short Год назад +50

    I don’t know dude, I think it’s really weird for people to be making a “thing” about his hair loss. Even more than him not being able to bring the same emotion to it because he’s not in his 20’s anymore, it’s absurd to act as if James physically aging is somehow a shortcoming on his part that he’s somehow at fault for. While it is super obvious that it’s happening, it’s also something a lot of people tend to be self conscious about. That being said, it’s crummy enough for people to be pointing it out in the comment section of his videos, it’s even worse for people to be demanding that he address it publicly in some way (some even going far enough to expect him to write a joke about it at his own expense) as if the thought never crossed their minds that it might be kinda humiliating for him to do it. While it would be nice if we could all stay young and pretty forever, it’s not gonna happen for anyone and it’s absolutely ridiculous to expect him to give us all an excuse for aging like it’s his fault for failing to prevent it. C’mon man…

    • @tristanjacobucci
      @tristanjacobucci Год назад +6

      Agreed

    • @dawnone8924
      @dawnone8924 Год назад +2

      that and the Nerd character has grown over the years. He makes jokes about being jaded from playing shitty games over the years all the time. So, to even say its out of character that he's aging doesn't make sense.

    • @aarons2148
      @aarons2148 Год назад

      ​@@dawnone8924 agreed. He played great character for awesome content. Life moves on and it's not a lifestyle.

    • @J0SHUAKANE
      @J0SHUAKANE 10 месяцев назад

      George Carlin never fell off. Lou Costello never fell off. Lon Chaney never fell off.

    • @DeRockMedia
      @DeRockMedia 9 месяцев назад

      Ya...it's harsh to criticize something he has no control over...it would be funny if he joked about it since it's obvious, but he doesn't have to.

  • @dextersbeard3472
    @dextersbeard3472 Год назад +334

    The DOOM episode he just did was great. I wish people would just let James do what he enjoys.

    • @theunholinesswithin3601
      @theunholinesswithin3601 Год назад +58

      Who is stopping him?

    • @QF_Dan72
      @QF_Dan72 Год назад +36

      if he have time then sure

    • @PeteOliva
      @PeteOliva Год назад +22

      @Russo Is A Genius, Bro! We all have an expiry date, sadly. Don't hold it against him!

    • @PeteOliva
      @PeteOliva Год назад +8

      That was one of his best in a while.

    • @qty1315
      @qty1315 Год назад +6

      @@theunholinesswithin3601 His kids, apparently.

  • @sigmasquad5285
    @sigmasquad5285 Год назад +102

    Board James is a masterpiece, it starts off kind of slow but damn does it pay off

    • @stormerbuzz352
      @stormerbuzz352 Год назад +1

      Yes! It really ended on a high

    • @jayb9612
      @jayb9612 Год назад

      I never really got into board James, I need to check it out tho💯. Cause I've been watching cinemassacre for like 3 and a half or 4 years now, and love all the other content

    • @averageadam5001
      @averageadam5001 Год назад +1

      God I miss Board James

    • @FoxUnitNell
      @FoxUnitNell Год назад

      Board James is his best work. There's just not enough games that can be released that are bad or over complex like the siege game because there wasn't a long popularity in board games to warrant companies putting out shovel board.

    • @brianmeen2158
      @brianmeen2158 Год назад +1

      @@FoxUnitNell but I’m sure there’s enough bad or strange board games that could fill up a few more seasons of board James

  • @Chelaxim
    @Chelaxim Год назад +131

    James is great with a script...with topics he truly has an interest in...that he most wrote.

    • @fanaticaH
      @fanaticaH Год назад +16

      James was at his best when he surrounded himself with talented people who shared similar people.
      Now he sub-hires people to work for him and it isn't even a talented team.

    • @brianmeen2158
      @brianmeen2158 Год назад +7

      @@fanaticaH James is great with scripts and really mixed well with Mike Mattei and Bootsy .. when the screen wave guts came in was when it got pretty bad

    • @legoyoda9782
      @legoyoda9782 Год назад

      @@fanaticaH I feel like the writing has actually gotten a lot better since his movie came out. Most of the recent episodes have been pretty good.

  • @AlephNeil
    @AlephNeil Год назад +9

    Your video made me realise something I'd never been fully conscious of before: that there's some amount of social pressure on men midway through normal male pattern baldness to *do something about it* (cover it up or shave it).
    Personally I've always thought a shaved head is more distracting than a partially bald head - or at best it's a wash, but apparently society disagrees. Has it always been this way or has fashion changed?

    • @baseddoggie
      @baseddoggie 8 месяцев назад

      honestly I dont understand why its an issue at all. Do zoomers just not understand that people age? James' hairline is the absolute last thing I would complain about in the context of his recent videos. And besides, as far as the character goes, wouldn't a hardcore nerd not give a shit about his hair? If anything, the tat and the weird captain shirt were far more distracting.

  • @AWF1000
    @AWF1000 Год назад +6

    I think it's more with lack of chemistry with those screenwave guys.. when he's with Mike, Bootsy, Kyle and even Kevin Finn, he's comfortable.

  • @FunkSwaggMusiK
    @FunkSwaggMusiK Год назад +13

    Bro, those Rex Viper vids you did had me dying 🤣

    • @DancingwithGhosts
      @DancingwithGhosts  Год назад +2

      lol thanks... they had to be taken down a peg or two

    • @eddiearniwhatever
      @eddiearniwhatever Год назад +1

      Your Rex Viper vids were so awesome I am becoming a Rex Viper fan - just to marvel at how bad they are, and in hopes of more content you can tear up in your reviews.

  • @michaelm108
    @michaelm108 Год назад +69

    bring back bootsy. problem solved

  • @bottombarrelbudgetfilms1854
    @bottombarrelbudgetfilms1854 Год назад +7

    I agree 100% with the take you gave near the end. I'm glad James has production help and I'm glad it makes life easier on him. But I have never once enjoyed seeing those guys on screen in his videos, and I'm actually saying that as someone who did used to enjoy their content back on their own obscure channel when they were no names

  • @itsalwayssunnyinpahoa7631
    @itsalwayssunnyinpahoa7631 Год назад +10

    Awesome, It was your previous work on Cinemassacre that initially brought me to this channel. I did however wind up subscribing and staying for the music and other interesting content. Anyways, we are all super grateful for your work, DWG. Keep up the good work.

  • @ForbiddenAudioPerversions
    @ForbiddenAudioPerversions 8 месяцев назад +2

    Maybe Will Smith can defend James against hair loss comments

  • @charlescarnage
    @charlescarnage Год назад

    Newer subscriber here, loving these vids and your other vids too. Keep em coming!

  • @bpcgos
    @bpcgos Год назад +6

    The movie reviews James did always enjoyable to watch. His ability to pull and acknowledged reference or technique from old movies being use in modern cinema shows where his passion actually is. As great as AVGN is, its just another medium to channel his love of cinema.

  • @melanchlorin
    @melanchlorin Год назад +6

    What? The first minutes of The Last Ninja wasn't supposed to feel old? I thought it was a newly produced bit made to look old on purpose, with throwback script reminding us of the TMNT episode.

  • @saeba2393
    @saeba2393 Год назад +1

    Honestly, the Rex Viper videos made me discover your channel but your other content was just as great! So thanks for uploading that 1st Rex Viper video or else I probably wouldn't have found this dope channel! :)

  • @fraciscom.1406
    @fraciscom.1406 11 месяцев назад +1

    I'm glad you made this video. I felt the same way when those other guys just showed up in the videos.

  • @Vajrubaj
    @Vajrubaj Год назад +4

    Love your takes dude, i am so glad you didn't stop like you said , coz you are good, common sense no nostalgia purple glasses.Thx.

    • @DancingwithGhosts
      @DancingwithGhosts  Год назад +1

      thanks.. people kept commenting on my old Rex Viper and Cinemassacre videos so I thought ahh what the heck I'll make another

  • @Voykod
    @Voykod Год назад +29

    Yes! With the screenwave guys James lost one of the crucial ingredients: authenticity (As you say). Now that I have seen his nostalgia based videos, like the Bronson Cave one, I can tell he really cares about those topics, hence the better quality on the scripts of the videos... but they get less views because they are not AVGN, even when AVGN is not AVGN anymore.

    • @almsahrah
      @almsahrah Год назад +1

      One of the most crucial ingredients missing now is NOT having a fat pedophile involved.......

    • @Voykod
      @Voykod Год назад

      @@almsahrah The one that was jailed and was a friend of the mayonnaise jar?

    • @almsahrah
      @almsahrah Год назад

      @@Voykod No, that guys best friend and avid supporter, Pedo-Fats. The tub of lard portion of the Slob Co....

    • @Voykod
      @Voykod Год назад

      @@almsahrah Oh... well, if that's true, it is a serious problem.

  • @cormacthem8406
    @cormacthem8406 Год назад +7

    This Nick Kroll parody skit of a 2006 bitter Zumiez employee is spot on 👍

  • @FSAPOJake
    @FSAPOJake Год назад +6

    The most recent episodes have been written by James and Mike (oh yeah, he came back) and getting much better reception. The quantity has gone down to 1 video every 2 months or so, but it's been worth it.

    • @hellmoto191
      @hellmoto191 Год назад

      Mike came back?? When? Why? How?? Cool if that's true :)

    • @Vfl666
      @Vfl666 Год назад

      The gameplay was from Mike and the rest from the slobs.

    • @brianmeen2158
      @brianmeen2158 Год назад

      @@Vfl666 so James isn’t even playing the games now? That’s a bit disappointing

    • @Vfl666
      @Vfl666 Год назад

      @@brianmeen2158 He was never a big gamer he was and will always be a movie nerd.

  • @sydhamelin1265
    @sydhamelin1265 Год назад +43

    I'm James' age, so his early videos REALLY hit me. And I remember at one point realizing I've been watching him for over 10 years. He's definitely had a Simpsons arc, where it just feels joyless.
    I actually liked the Monday let's plays that they did, some of those, like Goat Simulator, where gold. Matei's role in the early AVGN videos could absolutely steal the show, like his Joker, his Bugs, and the entire Klingon scene in the Star Trek review, is a masterpiece.
    They all seem so excited about each episode, and they were giving 100% each time. It's definitely been watered down, but I also dig his non-nerd videos still. Then again, he's 40+, so it doesn't carry. Like I said, in our 20s, it was funny watching after getting home from a night out with friends. At 40, it's old.

    • @DancingwithGhosts
      @DancingwithGhosts  Год назад +7

      sad but true

    • @sydhamelin1265
      @sydhamelin1265 Год назад

      @@DancingwithGhosts Hey, at least we're getting some good reactionary ivids. As a musician, myself, whose gone through some painstaking efforts, live, and in the studio, to get a decent sound, hearing the Cinemassacre group do a seriously lazy job...well, you covered it 100% on. Thanks for that.

    • @HeathenMetalhead221
      @HeathenMetalhead221 Год назад +3

      I liked the most recent one with the doom ports. It reminded me of an old episode

    • @thisistheendpt2
      @thisistheendpt2 Год назад

      @@DancingwithGhosts you're sad.hope you like being reminded.

    • @brianmeen2158
      @brianmeen2158 Год назад

      For whatever reason, when James makes fun of wii or PlayStation games, it just feels hollow or off. When he’s making fun of 8 or 16 bit games, that’s when he shines. James and Mike mondays were great as well. I cannot stand watching Mike mattei play games solo though lol

  • @peacockjive6847
    @peacockjive6847 Год назад +5

    mike mitei is the only current part of the avgn universe that's cannon.

  • @andrewm478
    @andrewm478 Год назад

    I would love more content related to Cinemassacre, and I think you might be hesitant but I hope you see the light and potential and give us more. There is so much funny stuff/ lore about Jame's channel I'll have to find and unearth myself, I would come here or anywhere that I could find that content condensed in 10- 12 minute digestible bits.

  • @unkles
    @unkles Год назад +2

    It's still cool to see some famous people cameo with that channel. I was surprised to see The Doomguy (Romero) play the icon of sin on Avgn Doom. Wish they could have had some more production with it but thought it worked out.

  • @PoutingTrevor
    @PoutingTrevor Год назад +14

    AVGN and Cinemassacre has definitely been better lately. The Last Ninja episode is a classic, and arguably should have been episode 200. The Purr Pals episode is forgettable at best, and the Hudson Hawk episode was fine, but a step back if anything. I like the transition he’s making into making more positive videos about games. Perhaps that’s the direction he’s going in? Also, hot take, but I like the Screenwave guys as people, but I don’t particularly like them being onscreen, at least in Cinemassacre productions. I used to enjoy watching Tony and James talk movies because I thought they had good chemistry, and they both know their stuff. I don’t know why Tony left the channel, but then he was pretty awful as Dr. Gonzo. The dude’s not an actor! Kieran’s also really sweet and I think he’s just happy to be there. Justin is more questionable, largely due to his continued relationship with a convicted s- offender and ch-d pre-tor, but I don’t think he’s a bad guy and he’s definitely copped to a lot of screw ups which he didn’t have to do. BUT I could not care less what Ryan thinks about anything. He’s basically bought himself a role on the channel, but I don’t think there’s anyone less charismatic and unappealing than him. He might be a super cool dude irl, but onscreen he’s just kinda gross lol

    • @j.huckvale
      @j.huckvale Год назад +6

      Yeah, I used to check out the rental reviews videos but it was so noticeable how much the other guys dominated the conversation and James was just… there. And I think it was more noticeable because when he’d do reviews with Mike, at least there was chemistry and you were interested to see them work off each other. I was actually interested to hear Mikes thoughts on whatever topic. I’ve been a huge fan of Cinemassacre for so many years and want nothing but the best for James so it is sad for me to not enjoy the content like I used to, but I definitely am happy with the changes and lack of screenwave this year!!!!!!

    • @DancingwithGhosts
      @DancingwithGhosts  Год назад +7

      my whole thing is they NEVER introduced these people... it went from like "damn where the hell did mike go" to "who the fuck are all these randos taking up 80 percent of the screen"? it was too abrupt and to me none of them had personalities that were interesting.. not funny, not particularly likeable, not witty.. no value added

    • @j.huckvale
      @j.huckvale Год назад +2

      @@DancingwithGhosts the whole no introduction thing was so jarring because it was a barrage of new people that were all so uninteresting and felt completely different from every single person to have been affiliated. Introducing* new people to your show(s) isn’t a BAD THING, it had been done in the past (to play the shitty games that suck ass!) on the channel. Like with Bootsy! He was embraced by the fans and earned his keep. I do have to say that Christmas episode with the stunt guy was my least favorite episode at the time and kind of cemented my realization of the change and shift of the content. He didn’t give any history of the products in that video, it was just so different from his past episodes in such a blatant way. I guess I can’t blame the guy for trying something different. But… come on they were so bad 😂
      *or not introducing 🙃

    • @j.huckvale
      @j.huckvale Год назад

      @@DancingwithGhosts also I didn’t hate the stunt guy they used either. I thought his performance was pretty solid, he seemed to work well with James and just didn’t suck. It was everything else about the episode and how far removed from being “the nerd” it all was

    • @wcoleman99
      @wcoleman99 10 месяцев назад

      Well Tony started doing his talk about tapes hack the movies channel. He's still with screenwave and is just doing a real annoying neckbeard character thing. Still has a bunch of episodes up with Newt in it because they're some of his best viewed videos despite the whore Newt plagiarism thing. Kieran is gone over not getting paid enough and Justin gives me creep vibes. If he's still friends with a child sex predator makes whatever finally gets him fired even worse

  • @BigRed0059
    @BigRed0059 Год назад +4

    I think it’s gotten better since the scandal. The screen wave guys have been off camera. 😊

  • @user-tn4ik2pi3r
    @user-tn4ik2pi3r Год назад +2

    i think there was trouble when boots left but the end was when mike left

  • @GamingManual
    @GamingManual 4 месяца назад

    Watching Bootsy calmly beat all those insanely hard NES games was/still is some of my favorite RUclips content. Great analysis as always, sir. Big fan of your channel, loved you on RedCow!

  • @Fishplants
    @Fishplants Год назад +4

    He should get his old gang back, Those guys made avgn. And James is comfortable with those guys.

    • @Metal-Gear-Moogle
      @Metal-Gear-Moogle Год назад +1

      Kyle and bootsy won't be back, apparently James screwed them pretty hard. Bootsy talked about it

  • @jonathancurran6851
    @jonathancurran6851 Год назад +3

    Fair Enough. But did we really need a 3rd video about this?

  • @audreyazwell
    @audreyazwell Год назад

    pst (waves) long time no see fam, yeah I've been watchin these cinemassacre vid ngl haha

  • @toxicmatrix1337
    @toxicmatrix1337 10 месяцев назад

    I'm amazed you could even make it through some of the new AVGNS, I watched since 2007 on his site before it was on youtube. It was actually very hard for me to finally leave his site and switch to YT to watch him, felt more personal watching it on there. It hasn't been the same for a very long time.

  • @Djentlemanthall
    @Djentlemanthall Год назад +8

    Love the AVGN content.

  • @jayb9612
    @jayb9612 Год назад +3

    I think avgn and cinemassacre are doing great. I completely understand what your saying, and respect your opinion. I just think he's doing what he likes now, and also James is better on script but I still enjoy him on the podcasts when he is engaged in the conversation.
    Edit: I want Mike and James Mondays back

  • @LeonardoFrav
    @LeonardoFrav 6 месяцев назад

    6:12 does anyone know the video where those 4 legends appear at the same time?

  • @Specter227
    @Specter227 Год назад +2

    I find it kind of funny that the Internet turned poking fun at people like Doug Walker or Linkara into a sport, but say one slightly negative thing (and I'm not even talking about making fun of him, but actual honest opinions from a fan) about James and you get an army of mad people coming after you. Reminds me of 2008/2009 RUclips, when saying something like "Kickassia wasn't that good" was considered a blasphemy to many people.
    While James' 2022 output is generally an improvement over the rollercoaster that was the last year (with The Last Ninja episode being a highlight), it still reminds me very much of modern Simpsons in that you can see the drive is no longer really there. I know that he has a family to take care of, but as a long-time fan, I would love to see James stop doing RUclips full-time and try to get back into movie-making - that's where his true passion always was.

    • @Gage_Brumley
      @Gage_Brumley Год назад

      I'd rather him become like JonTron and release a handful of quality videos every year rather than churn out mediocre AVGN episodes and boring movie reviews once a month. He's just kind of coasting out on the channel right now

  • @mrmacross
    @mrmacross Год назад +14

    Appreciate this video, especially since you've addressed your recent feedback.
    I'm one of the folks who feels AVGN's quality in 2022 is fine. I think the issue for me is that there've been 200 or so episodes that it just doesn't hit like it used to.
    I also feel like the Screenwave guys did try extra hard to put themselves in front of the camera and I don't find them particularly interesting. They're not terrible, but at no point did I ever feel like they themselves improved the product other than that they were extra hands on deck.

    • @zionix15432
      @zionix15432 Год назад +1

      It's like anything. There isn't a band out there (that's been around a long time) that people still think make as good of music as they used to.

    • @TheSultan1470
      @TheSultan1470 Год назад

      ​@@zionix15432Ok

  • @jimboramba
    @jimboramba Год назад +5

    The battletoads episode is imo the best showcase of avgn rage. Compare how he yells in that to how he yells today.
    If I were James, I'd just wait till I had a rough day to go record some nerd.

  • @SuperAnthonyEntertainment
    @SuperAnthonyEntertainment 7 месяцев назад +1

    What I love about Josh is that he is like the real life version of what I loved about The Nerd and YKWBS, a curmudgeon with a humorous take on things. It's awesome and I'm happy to hear him rant about the things that irritate him any time, whether or not it's things I like or don't like. Funny, entertaining vid!

  • @CreepyBoris
    @CreepyBoris 7 месяцев назад

    I just watched some of Doug Walker's latest video (the Home Alone and Christmas Story ones) after avoiding it for over a year and it feels like he's finally back to the old school style videos people want, no more annoying skits!

  • @GamingWithDrew
    @GamingWithDrew Год назад +20

    Well said. It's nice seeing a fair and reasonable take with accurate criticisms which you don't typically see from neither his fanboys nor the Truth subreddit.

    • @DancingwithGhosts
      @DancingwithGhosts  Год назад +9

      thanks.. i don't hate the guy like people were starting to think from my other videos, i just thought Rex Viper was an affront to my ears and the screenwave guys should never have been on camera

  • @thedrewdog
    @thedrewdog Год назад +5

    These vids are aging like wine, especially since Kieran just quit, now James is kinda screwed since they did all the work for him.
    I would blame his wife "Yoko", but what do I know, I have a Caucasian sausage.

    • @DancingwithGhosts
      @DancingwithGhosts  Год назад +2

      🤣 that last part though

    • @thedrewdog
      @thedrewdog Год назад

      @@DancingwithGhosts I don't even want to roast James, I just hate when people knowingly produce mid or just plain BAD things and think that people should just eat the slop and like it.
      It's the like "MORE?" guy in Oliver.

    • @Labyrinth6000
      @Labyrinth6000 Год назад +1

      @@DancingwithGhostsdo an updated video?

    • @thedrewdog
      @thedrewdog Год назад

      @@Labyrinth6000 Overall, I'm just sad that James clearly feels like he's trapped in limbo, with a wife that seemingly terrifies him, and he'll never get to make a full length movie again.
      The only way to make himself feel better is to consider his reviews as films.

  • @bigshortstop1931
    @bigshortstop1931 9 месяцев назад +1

    Why do I get the feeling that deep down, Ol’BimmyBoy is deeply resentful of the fact that he’s basically never going to be a major Hollywood director. It just seems like he can’t let go of his past and now the present suffers for it. It doesn’t help that he probably never really gave a crap about video games to begin with.

  • @corona1688
    @corona1688 Год назад +2

    I love your Mega Man X Sigma photo in your background! That's the first game I remember overcoming to beat years after I got it; I want one now! I also agree with your point at 7:28: nobody cares about their opinion. I watched the one with their top 5 bands of all time, then suddenly realized I didn't even care about James's top picks, because he's just "yepping" through the video..His newer videos suffer from Keiran writing them; not that he's bad, it's just not James. You can tell it's Keiran, because he makes a statement, and then follows it up with "and it's amazing"..

  • @A.I-GAMING
    @A.I-GAMING Год назад +4

    Got to bring back Mike, then viewership will go way up.

  • @CameronAllOneWord
    @CameronAllOneWord Год назад +9

    It's almost impossible for AVGN to truly be as good as it used to be since he's already made videos on all of the games that he has personal childhood memories with and not only that but he's already reviewed the most popular games from his era so there isn't much left that we his fans can see and think "oh man he's finally gotten to this one. I can't wait to hear what he has to say!" All that's left are obscure games and good ones.
    Not only that but with so many other gaming RUclipsrs out there every game has been covered to death. He used to be the first and/or only content creator making videos on retro games for a while. I thought the Doom episode in particular was solid so he can definitely still be good I just don't think he's ever going to be as angry as he used to be but I prefer a moderately angry video game nerd over a forced furious video game nerd.
    I love your idea of James incorporating his baldness into the character a lot though. I think it's important for any fictional character to change and evolve over time and think there's a lot of potential to the idea of an aging AVGN.

    • @brianmeen2158
      @brianmeen2158 Год назад +1

      True, James has covered most bad old school 8 bit games. Surely there’s still enough bad 16 bit games to tackle…? I’ve watched his videos where he slams Wii games and they are terrible. It’s just not the same

    • @CameronAllOneWord
      @CameronAllOneWord Год назад

      ​@@brianmeen2158 There's definitely obscure 16 bit games that he hasn't covered yet but these days tons of other people probably already have and also they're no longer games he has personal memories with which were the best episodes he's made.

  • @corporationmasamichannel7040
    @corporationmasamichannel7040 Год назад +2

    The truth is that James was never all that talented. He always remained the same as he was as a child, filming cruddy looking home videos in his basement, sometimes with his friends, always in convoluted amateurish ways because he doesn't learn and evolve. Because James doesn't change. He'll never change. We changed.
    We saw someone make amateurish but cute videos on the internet. The mere fact that you could produce videos for the internet amazed us. Sure, visually it looked drab. The writing was primitive. The After Effects was awful. The guy couldn’t add slick, readable typography onto his videos if his life depended on it. But the editing sold it. Most of all we saw someone with a dream to break out of his basement and into Hollywood. Maybe we recognized ourselves in him. So we cheered him on. We wanted to help him achieve this dream, as we grew compassionate. But “making it to Hollywood” exposed the truth about James to us. We saw he really was never all that talented. We just wanted to believe he is.
    It’s ok, though. I love seeing the creativity it brought out of you. Some of the stuff here has become more creative, funny, well made and well thought out than Cinemassacre ever was. Keep evolving, always

  • @VideoJamesNZ
    @VideoJamesNZ Год назад +1

    WURD! Subscribed! 😁
    So many great points raised here! I stopped watching The Nerd a long time ago. It has just really lost its mojo.

  • @zeldabombsquad1144
    @zeldabombsquad1144 Год назад +4

    Of course it's gotten worse, he's now just the Annoyed Video Game Dad

  • @TheFailedmessiah
    @TheFailedmessiah Год назад +5

    I like Mike Matei a lot, he’s funny.

  • @MichaelDermotMusic
    @MichaelDermotMusic Год назад +2

    I still can’t believe people genuinely think that’s old footage of James in The Last Ninja video.

  • @stuartward1755
    @stuartward1755 Год назад +2

    James intended Cinemassacre and AVGN to be little more than a passion project before breaking out into Hollywood. But between the AVGN movie being a flop and life getting in the way he's now stuck with them. It's obvious the passion is no longer there like it used to be. It's now just another job for him now than it is something he genuinely enjoys.

  • @dpglounge4900
    @dpglounge4900 Год назад +7

    Do not overlook board james seriously underrated that shark attack episode is my all time favorite internet video ever omg the end rant is the mad he ever was lmaooooooo

  • @samuelspencer2078
    @samuelspencer2078 Год назад +3

    To get the rage back James could just play a modern day game.

  • @AmandaRogersarock1988
    @AmandaRogersarock1988 Год назад +2

    The book release is definitely putting him back into the algorithm.
    I decided to ignore Rex Viper and just watch the AVGN videos and I'm enjoying that part of the channel.
    The reality is James spent 7.5 years at a special ed school and has some challenges and made a career out of his creativity and art. He's quirky and doesn't always get it right, but he seems happier this year in what he's doing.
    While I do miss the good old days I can't fault people for growing up and moving on and I don't think there's a huge conspiracy behind it.

  • @miguelpanty
    @miguelpanty 8 месяцев назад

    LMFAO that pic with the two dudes and no shirt

  • @therippedemon
    @therippedemon Год назад +5

    I think James should honestly consider a hair transplant. It would be strange to see him shave bald, but it's also weird seeing his receding hairline.

  • @peppercatx6470
    @peppercatx6470 Год назад +3

    It's interesting juxtaposing my opinions on all of this with others. Mainly with Screenwave primarily because I watched Justin for awhile now. Ever since he was on Underbelly and then his own channel. I liked his edgier sense of humor which is a lost art in the modern RUclips landscape.
    On the Purr Pals video I give that one a pass since that video is pretty much a sendoff to his cat who you can tell he loved dearly and I remember when I lost my little buddy I was really sad so as a cat person I really like how he is immortalizing his in a video.

  • @ryanstewart4444
    @ryanstewart4444 Год назад +1

    I throwback tie-in with Fester's Quest to explain his (increasing) baldness would be in character.

  • @rein3417
    @rein3417 Год назад

    So I took some time and listened/watched some of your music vids, really freaking good bruh. I'm a fan. Leagues ahead of Rex Viper that's for damn sure.

  • @BM-wh5qk
    @BM-wh5qk Год назад +3

    Five years from now, James should do a real AVGN movie with a dark script and a professional company producing and directing.

    • @sodokami6347
      @sodokami6347 Год назад +2

      Or heck even a Board James movie

    • @Gage_Brumley
      @Gage_Brumley Год назад

      @@sodokami6347no point in doing Board James if Mike and Bootsy won't be involved

    • @sodokami6347
      @sodokami6347 Год назад

      @@Gage_Brumley Who knows, anything is possible 🤷‍♂️

  • @Progger11
    @Progger11 Год назад +12

    I was genuinely pleasantly surprised with the Doom video. Best AVGN in a long time!

  • @TheMovieHangout
    @TheMovieHangout Год назад +2

    Screenwave Slobs is one of my favorite new terms.😂

  • @chango_fett
    @chango_fett Год назад +1

    i like james rolfe and not only his avgn content but in general, monster madness etc, but your opinion from my point of view is very correct, i think your mixed feelings are legitimate because some of the things you mention also happen to me, and I think you have a lot of balls to make this kind of videos knowing that the fanboys are going to attack you and I have to give you credit for that
    😅

  • @tgifkids6750
    @tgifkids6750 Год назад +8

    Let’s be real…James has grown up and has other priorities (like his family). Everything good comes to an end eventually. Once AVGN core folks left…it was over. The AVGN movie was too late, not done right, & honestly not needed. James isn’t stupid and knows he’s getting passive income from his channel, but now all folks do is criticize him. Just enjoy the past stuff the best you can. It was a good run. He still makes some decent vids from time to time.

    • @eddiearniwhatever
      @eddiearniwhatever Год назад +1

      You know what would be amazing? If he opened up a video rental shop. I think people would be into it.

  • @cybernightzero5891
    @cybernightzero5891 Год назад +3

    Something I've noticed over the years, the games he reviews are ones no one cares about. (or has heard of) This may also be a screenwave's influence at work.
    I think it goes without saying that his latest episode on Doom is the best one I've seen in like 15 years.

    • @eddiearniwhatever
      @eddiearniwhatever Год назад

      Some of his reviews bring to light terrible games no one has heard of though, so we can marvel at how terrible they are.

  • @bigcurt3572
    @bigcurt3572 Год назад +1

    I have to agree with you that James AVGN has lost what it started back when the channel got up and started but now I don't think it's good And I believe he lost his interest or maybe he is burnt out doing it. But I still watch the old episodes but not to much of any new ones. But I'm glad you did this video and explain what is going on because I can see it to and I hope he can recover from what is going on. That hair line I agree to I notice that as well.

  • @WHIPTY
    @WHIPTY Год назад

    awe man I was gonna reply to my Audrey Azwell comment and leave you a cute little comment chain haha

  • @SimpleSymonds
    @SimpleSymonds Год назад +5

    I am so happy James is getting back on track.
    Been a huge fan of his for years, and I'm glad we cna all just look atht eh controversey and move past it. I'm also glad James is going back to doing stuff the way he wants. The Screenwave crew just were too much. SUre, there are a couple episodes of Rental Reviews or that era AVGN episodes I watch simply because I enjoy them, but I mainly did it for James, not any of the others. So now that they are taking a backseat, i'm happy.
    Also, I completely agree with what was said in this video, about Screenwave and what james is doing now.
    So glad to see this channel getting back to it's roots.

  • @c.m.8158
    @c.m.8158 Год назад +3

    Here's to hopefully NEVER having to see Justin the Hut, EVER again!

  • @JM-nm3oo
    @JM-nm3oo Год назад +1

    How about a new series about throwing pies at the screenwave guys (cardboard cutouts if need be)

  • @shaunbernard7083
    @shaunbernard7083 Год назад +1

    You need to see all of Board James

  • @kingjoe3rd
    @kingjoe3rd Год назад +3

    His recent Doom video was excellent.

  • @reinforcedpenisstem
    @reinforcedpenisstem Год назад +8

    It's improved for sure. But don't forget that when Mike started appearing in non-AVGN episodes, there WAS backlash against him for quite a while too!

    • @kenon6968
      @kenon6968 Год назад +1

      Stop subverting the narrative bro

    • @reinforcedpenisstem
      @reinforcedpenisstem Год назад

      @@kenon6968 Is that a bumper sticker you saw?

    • @qty1315
      @qty1315 Год назад

      Yeah, but, that's because his first solo videos sucked, and when he course corrected and made better videos people liked him more.
      So, it was at best 10 videos he made that fans didn't like, then fans liked him and his appearances when he improved. Comparing that to the hundreds of videos and years of Screenwave stuff is incredibly facetious, and a really, REALLY dumb hot take.
      It's like saying that when Bruce Dickinson replaced the first lead singer of Iron Maiden there was backlash, too. Yes, it's true, but then the band recorded Number Of The Beast, just like Mike made a bunch of great content with James, so it's not really comparable to the Screenwave guys or Blaze Bayley. It just makes you look pretentious, like you're trying to be smart and insightful but don't actually understand the situation at all.
      Plus, Mike didn't even want to make those videos, James made him do it because he was busy with the movie and felt that there needed to be something uploaded to his channel while he was doing that.

    • @reinforcedpenisstem
      @reinforcedpenisstem Год назад

      @@qty1315 No, he appeared long before the movie was even a idea.

    • @HiGlowie
      @HiGlowie Год назад +1

      Are you defending the slobs? Come on, bro.

  • @FarmerSlideJoeBob
    @FarmerSlideJoeBob Год назад

    sry Josh Man, I'm drowned in a lot of work. so I need to watch you previous videos😔

  • @shanejeffery5648
    @shanejeffery5648 Год назад

    When I saw the thumbnail I thought for a second AVGN was giving his thoughts on YOU lol .. Anyway, great vid!

    • @DancingwithGhosts
      @DancingwithGhosts  Год назад +1

      lmao i mean honestly at this point with as many views as my Rex Viper vidoes have gotten and how my videos are some of the first that show up when you type in rex viper im sure they're aware of who i am which sucks because i actually like James and would like to meet him one day but he probably dislikes me at this point and chalks me up to an internet troll

    • @shanejeffery5648
      @shanejeffery5648 Год назад

      ​@@DancingwithGhosts Yeah I think some of his former fans are finding shelter in your comment sections. Would make him mad and the screenwave people even madder. As for meeting James, you said yourself his best self is scripted lol

  • @ApenBaard
    @ApenBaard Год назад +4

    Board james is a trip! Do yourself a favor and watch it :)

  • @DatDudeVince_
    @DatDudeVince_ Год назад +3

    Of course this ended up on r/thecinemassacretruth :) Good video, Josh, also love the shirt and stickers you guys sent.

    • @DancingwithGhosts
      @DancingwithGhosts  Год назад +2

      lmao this is the first time i've been informed of that i made the cinemassacre truth forum.. did any of my other videos get on there? 😂

    • @DatDudeVince_
      @DatDudeVince_ Год назад

      @@DancingwithGhosts I’ve definitely seen a few shared on there.

  • @neilbottles2597
    @neilbottles2597 Год назад +2

    The Contra and Doom episodes were great

  • @ghw1985
    @ghw1985 Год назад +2

    Kyle bootsy mike and James were the 4 horsemen of you tube

  • @csciabar
    @csciabar Год назад +3

    I personally enjoyed that xmas episode! It was so wild. Maybe just me… but seriously i tuned in today cuz james was taken over by THE SLOBS!! Long live james, hope he makes a comeback.

  • @juggalo4life247mfrs
    @juggalo4life247mfrs Год назад +7

    I still enjoy watching avgn.hes changed over the years,but haven't we all?

  • @itscomplicatedwatches
    @itscomplicatedwatches Год назад +1

    You nailed it here.

  • @emailchrismoll
    @emailchrismoll 7 месяцев назад

    the rob the robot video should have been the very last AVGN episode ever. it would have been a great send off

  • @Hoolygamer
    @Hoolygamer Год назад +4

    The guy had a good run but like anyone, especially an OG like James, it shows it's better to know when to hang your hat up rather than drag something on for longer than you're capable of caring about it. The same choice awaits a lot of people who have been on this platform for long enough.

    • @DancingwithGhosts
      @DancingwithGhosts  Год назад +4

      cough cough* h3h3 *cough*

    • @Hoolygamer
      @Hoolygamer Год назад +2

      ​@@DancingwithGhosts One day hopefully we will be blessed by their departure off the platform. I don't think I have ever seen a sadder state then their channel.

    • @Hoolygamer
      @Hoolygamer Год назад +2

      @@DancingwithGhosts Also dude I reckon your Rex Viper videos were hilarious and is what brought me over to subscribe. I reckon someone with your experience in music could make some great videos in reviewing and analysing shitty music just in general.

    • @brianmeen2158
      @brianmeen2158 Год назад +1

      Problem is, James is stuck with making this type of content. His movie career really didn’t go anywhere and I doubt he will go work a 9-5.. so James is a bit stuck now but I can’t imagine him still creating videos in 10 years lol

    • @Hoolygamer
      @Hoolygamer Год назад +1

      @@brianmeen2158
      His movie aspirations were innocent enough but he really didn't put in the effort to make it a career so he shouldn't of been surprised toilet humour wouldn't get him past RUclips.
      Honestly, I guess he is milking it for all it's worth at the expense of his reputation, but a family man like himself should probably look at a real career at this point.
      His content is running off fumes at this point and doesn't look sustainable long term.

  • @McLovin_2007
    @McLovin_2007 Год назад +16

    ♫He's the Aging......Video Game......Nerdddddd♫

  • @jaytheocarinian2001
    @jaytheocarinian2001 9 месяцев назад +1

    I remember the time when I was mad saying "Who the Fuck is Bootsy?! get outta here!" but later understood that he's a main cast in Board James
    other dudes? I never cared even to this days.

  • @ReaperCH90
    @ReaperCH90 Год назад +1

    Hmmm, yeah. Big fan btw

  • @chachifonz
    @chachifonz Год назад +3

    I would just be thankful that you can get views from another deserving RUclipsrs channel I don't think he's worried about you or anything because his channel is still doing well

  • @timj3788
    @timj3788 Год назад +10

    It's so cool how you made it through those videos of that balding guy in his forties. You're so brave.

    • @DancingwithGhosts
      @DancingwithGhosts  Год назад +11

      i was WAITING on someone to call me brave, thank you good sir

    • @jray0717
      @jray0717 Год назад +3

      Balding.....so that's life people lose hair.

    • @markfavorite795
      @markfavorite795 Год назад +1

      And you wonder why your friends don't return your phone calls

    • @cookiesandsteam34
      @cookiesandsteam34 Год назад

      LMG, you're one of those so called twelve year olds? 😂

    • @brianmeen2158
      @brianmeen2158 Год назад

      @@jray0717 yeah I don’t get the balding complaints. It happens with age and if James doesn’t care, why should we?

  • @jaysaiyajoestar1220
    @jaysaiyajoestar1220 8 месяцев назад +1

    I agree with Every point of yours, Except the Hair Loss Issue. I mean... What Issue? it's not like james wanted to lose his hair or anything. even He stated that He was shocked of himself shaving his head one time. kinda mean critism tbh