Woman Manipulates Man in "Sex-Free Marriage" Before Murdering Him | Rebecca Cleland Case Analysis
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- Опубликовано: 21 дек 2024
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How low self-esteem can literally kill you.
His murderer killed him. He didn't kill himself.
This is so sad. Firstly, He’s wasn’t ugly at all, what the heck, he had great hair, friendly smile, tall build, looks aren’t everything but this certainly wasn’t true and it prevented him from finding someone who would actually value him. He seemed like such a great guy. It makes me so sad when people destroy people’s self-esteem so far that they can’t see themselves as they are.
I know right. I wouldn’t say the dude was handsome but shit it’s not like he looks like Danny DeVito or something.
True
He was pretty average looking, in my opinion.
@@Ken-fh4jcexactly. And she wasn’t exactly a beauty queen herself. Such a sad case. 😢
I was thinking this exact same thing!! He may not have been movie star level…but he was certainly not ugly by any means!! Also, his intelligence and kindness would definitely have greatly added to his charm!
Parents, teach your children about manipulators and narcissists from an early age, so they can avoid people like this.
Just teach them to be assertive and happy in their own skin too, that would be a good start.....
Yes
@@solesticia Great advice.👍
💯 percent
@@LDiamondzthank you! if you're happy with yourself and in your skin, you're more likely to take the crap of other people !!!!!
Bruce and I are very similar. Very low self esteem and social anxiety and was preyed on by horrible people. I am ruined financially, but at least I'm still alive. RIP Bruce, you deserved better.
I'm glad you are here too.
Bless ur heart dude, God loves you!! ❤️❤️❤️
If you learned a lesson, not all was lost my friend.
But this guy was brilliant in academics.
@@KoolT but not socially.
This case always infuriated me. From the bullying he suffered as a kid to the monster who killed him, he has been victimized his entire life. He had so much to offer the world
and this woman destroyed him. Infuriating.
At some point Bruce needed to devote his intellect to the goal of no longer being a victim, and learning what women find attractive in men. Failed to work on his social intelligence, which left him as easy prey to the evil Rebecca.
@@jdaniels1313shut up
@@jdaniels1313 so it's his fault?
@@TapoutT Sad but true, Bruce couldn't stop being a victim, didn't make the effort to have male friends with social intelligence, didn't have an older male mentor, or if he did, Bruce ignored the advice, thinking with the wrong head. How long after becoming a victim of a sociopath does it become the victim's fault? Very unlucky and it sucks, but at some point the victim, Bruce needed to apply his intellect to studying human relations and specifically male-female relations, and stop being so unbelievably gullible. Very sad to wind up dying because you make a good victim.
@@jdaniels1313 it's easy to say it when we recognize the pattern. But let's not forget that narcissists PREY and AIM specifically at vulnerable people. They are like magnets. I worked with women with a historic of sexl abuse, and many many times, they had abusive and dominant partners. It's hard to seek another type of relationship (being bullied and humiliated) when that's all you know.
I have mainly worked with women but i am sure it is the same for men
Bruce was too nice, too trusting & unassertive to deal with such a monstrous psychopath. Thank you Dr Grande for helping people learn of these cautionary tales!
Tell tell sign of a neglected/abused children :/
@@Koozomec
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@@m.f.richardson1602 Causes of low self-esteem can include:
Disapproval from authority figures or parents.
Emotionally distant parents.
Sexual, physical, or emotional abuse.
Contentious divorce between parents.
Bullying with no parent protection.
Academic difficulties.
Guilt associated with religion.
Social beauty standards
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@@Koozomec insightful & well put!
I don't think she was a psychopath moreso BPD
Bruce was not a bad looking guy, he just felt that way because of the bullying. It definitely leaves a lifelong deep wound in more sensitive, good hearted people. He deserved and could’ve done so much better.
The tragedy is that his high school bullying convinced him that he was ugly. Based on his yearbook photo, he was going through an awkward stage but he was hardly beyond the pale. Mind you, bullying is always less about the victim's actual traits and more about the bullies' cruelty and desire to dominate. If he hadn't been tormented like this, or if he'd had access to counseling to help him deal with it, he wouldn't have become easy prey for the likes of Rebecca. 😢
I disagree. I was bullied all through school and was not considered attractive, but that only served to make me a stronger person and made me more defensive. I do agree he didn’t want to give up what he viewed as possibly his only shot at having a relationship. Very sad how we treat each other.
I agree. I was listening to this without watching and when Dr Grande said how unattractive Bruce was. I had to look. I said " He wasn't so bad"! He definitely got better looking as he matured. But adolescent bullying stays with you your entire life and distorts your self image.
He looks like a very sexy Freddy Mercury... she looks very average...
I've noticed that many teenagers that are not conventionally attractive actually grow into very good-looking people - the strong features that overwhelm their face when younger become striking as they grow into their adult looks. But, of course, by that time the emotional damage is done.
I don't think he was ever especially unattractive but as an adult he most definitely wasn't. I know it goes both ways, but there is something really evil in women who play men like this. It's so sad, he deserved a wife who built him up, but he got.....this. And she wasn't even particularly attractive, she was hardly trophy wife territory.
Meh. I hate narcs and users of any gender, but I think because I'm female, I particularly despise this sort of woman. Apart from anything else, they contribute to the stereotype which has an effect on the perception of us all. Vile woman and poor Bruce.
@@randomhumanoidblob4506 Thank you for your comment. It means a lot to me to have read this. I actually have had a similar story, the only difference being that I physically survived it, but lost all my assets in the process. I think my problem was that because of low self-esteem and the ensuing deficit of experience, I wasn't even able to tell the difference and therefore was an ideal victim for my female predator.
It makes me really sad when a very vulnerable person meets a monster and are unable to walk away from the BS.
In the wedding pictures he’s actually way more attractive and out of her league then she ever was! such a bummer for him, he didn’t deserve this crap
the sad part is maybe he dont have that confidence in his self
@@budoyong1 you are right, you can be the most attractive person in the world but if you don’t have confidence in yourself then it doesn’t matter.
So basically anyone holds the power within themselves to make themselves incredibly confident and happy or very sad and useless
Yeah, she was ugly inside and out.
he looks so happy in that picture. i feel upset for him
This is usually how it goes. A persons left esteem and confidence are injured early and they view themselves through that lens for the rest of their lives, even if they grow into their looks.
How sad that Bruce was so impacted by his adolescent peers that he carried low self esteem throughout life. He was not bad looking at all! Those childhood bullies affected him up until his death. That’s so sad.
Your self esteem is set in childhood. Being treated well by caregivers at an early age is a critical stage in starting out your life.
@@marcvslicinivscrassvs7536 it s thing of beauty
@@marcvslicinivscrassvs7536 I was bullied for my appearance and other things at a young age, had a bad home life, and many other struggles growing up. Through self work and therapy I was able to overcome my low self esteem and develop into a strong, confident, self aware person. I think it's possible to change, though it takes hard work and determination.
Here's a sad example of a man who had a brilliant mind, but yet lacked understanding of human nature, and the ability for people to be deceptive. It's too bad Bruce didn't understand his own self-worth, as there were many women out there that would've loved to have a caring and supportive man like him. RIHP Bruce.
Poor guy. He had a good, caring soul.
Unfortunately, sometimes that can be used against people with good, caring souls by psychopaths and narcissists (of which there are many in society) who look for these people specifically to get what they want. Disgusting fact of life.
It's amazing that people see a case study like Bruce, and then complain about red pill/masculinity content. It's not perfect, but that stuff quite literally has saved lives.
It is true; I have observed persons like him or her married to great (inside out) looking person. I am considered one of those- neither too intelligent or good looking but I won a lottery!
Bruce is decent looking and highly intelligent married to soulless woman.
5th level nerd
amen God bless very nice words
Feel sorry for Bruce, he genuinely seems like a nice guy and sadly he met a monster
@WrongOpinion If he wanted a hot wife why'd he marry Rebecca?
Nah, he was a shallow beta that wanted a hot wife instead of someone that would treat him rightm
That isnot helped by a system intent on brainwashing boys that all men are bad and must atone and confess for the original sin of being male. Some react by becoming misogynous and others by self flagellation of their own male identity and becoming super nice. It's really unhealthy in both cases. We have an epidemic of male mental illness (which will be blamed on the patriarchy of course) coming in the pipeline. Incel culture is blowback from ideological feminist madness where the only "good man" is the man who hates himself.
@coweatsman this is an incel comment lol
@coweatsman if you're letting internet content determine how you feel and operate as a man you were not a man in the first place.
Sad how she gaslight him and took advantage of his hard work and loyalty. I wish he had some friends that he could fall back on.
There are a lot of people in his situation being used for their money and good nature. Some of them would not leave even if they knew about it.
BRUCE WAS EITHHER STUPID O R LOW SELF ESTEEM..
Listen ,when people that usually are Ugly, Shy ,social akward or lonely get love bombed and Fall in "love " with a atractive "Jezabel" woman ,there is nothing you can say or do to stop this romance
@valnsky It truly is a match made in Hell. Empathic people give so much to others and leave so little to themselves. Narcissistic people feel no empathy themselves, but they are WELL AWARE of empathy in others. Empathic people are an absolute gold mine to them!
The narcissist says "Let me see just how much I can manipulate this person into giving me. The empath says "Maybe if I give just a little bit more, this person will finally love and appreciate me". The narcissist will never actually reward the empath with validation, but they will hint at it just enough to give the empath a false hope so they keep giving. It's a textbook example of the old "carrot on a stick" metaphor, and it is every bit as evil as it sounds.
Narcissists will do this to their spouse, and will even do it to their own children. Children, especially, will often love their parents unconditionally, and narcissistic parents enjoy the h**l out of it. Your spouse my finally file for divorce and cut off all contact, but children will often forgive a lifetime of abuse. I know a woman once, who continued to care for her mother up until her death, letting her mother live with her, even while her mother was screaming and swearing at her, and INTENTIONALLY defecating on the floor so that she had to clean it up (and continuing to yell and swear at her while she did so). She was smiling and laughing when the old bat finally died, and we were so happy for her. However, it was a mystery to us why her mother, who couldn't even change her own clothes anymore, had such a hold on her until her dying day.
I can’t tell which is more infuriating; her non-stop BS, or his unwillingness/inability to call her out on her obvious lies.
Her problem was she thought she’s intelligent but it appears she is a moron. I feel bad for her son having a horny mother who’s also a lowlife criminal. May she rot in jail.
yep. He should have told her to tuck and roll from go.
He probably has Asperger's syndrome.
He hadn’t met anyone like her before, and most likely didn’t understand that anyone could be that evil!
The ultimate in simping. People wonder why some men hate women but bad experiences can account for a lot. Boys are taught that women are nice and men are bad, really bad, responsible for all the evils in the world and are encouraged to confess and atone for the original sin of being male and all that. It's high time some intellectual rigour replaced ideology in schools.
I know this is very shallow to say, but she was like a 6 that thought she was a 10. The profound level of narcissism, entitlement and lack of empathy it would take to use and murder someone who was a mild/harmless person. He could have done better than her and it’s sad he lost his life.
Agreed 100%. Her delusions of high self worth and entitlement is probably what gave her the confidence to pursue him. And unfortunately for poor Bruce, she was probably the first woman who showed such an interest in him. Honestly, she could have probably been a 1 and Bruce would have fallen in love with her... but yeah, he could have easily married a 10 if he really knew his own self worth.
Your comment describes the average woman these days
Average at best
@@TheDweeb002 I disagree with that completely.
You're being generous, calling her a 6. She's a 4.
This reminds me of my mom and dad. She is an opportunist and an absolute monster of a human, and he allows himself to be made a doormat by his fear of being alone or made fun of for not being married. It’s so sad this happens.
Sounds like my mother and her husband
Its SO hard to watch someone you love being abused like this and not be able to talk any sense into them. Loneliness and low self-esteem can put you in some very dangerous situations.
So true. As a family member of a victim (sometimes it seems like she WANTS it) of coercive control/abuse, it makes me crazy at times to know there isn’t a damn thing i can do beyond what I’ve done - speaking to her, ensuring her she has support if she’d ever decide to leave. She’s so brainwashed that it won’t happen.
I learned this in my early twenties. Whoever cares the least about a relationship has the most control. This woman was a really horrible person.
Thank you ❤❤❤
You have a good head on your shoulders, many never learn this despite the plethora of knowledge available for free on the internet
Hearing this case hurt my mind and my heart. Bruce sounded like such a decent human being who fell for a complete monster that resulted in his life being sadly and brutally taken.
Amazing video, Dr. Grande!
He was a amazing soul, he didn't deserve anything but happiness. He was always sweet, kind and funny. Sure miss him, confused how this guy posting about him knows him like I do, did.
@@chloesophia9445 it's so sad
@@chloesophia9445you knew him? Such a sad story, it makes me so mad what happened to him. He was such a sweet man.
@@kikismama He was my uncle, the heartache was too much for my grandparents, they both passed away because of this. She took 3 of the best people away from our family with her greedy ways.
Descent??? Really? Tricking someone to marry him lying about being impotent is just gross! That’s what he did! Those who can’t perform in bed can’t possibly marry! Omg !!!
Poor Bruce. It sounds like he was just not able to set any boundaries for himself, whatsoever. It’s so sad when these people come across the wrong personality who will just prey and prey without any mercy or remorse. Rest in peace.
People, please do not ever compromise your dignity at the expense of a romantic pursuit. I’d rather die single than ever do that
Poor Bruce. What a horrible, heartless, cruel woman.
Right like so freaking EVIL
She said “He can’t come over to the house that he bought?!” 🤯
At that point I was just done. How many different ways does someone have to show you that they don’t like you?
Crazy, right
And someone he “loves her”? Come on man at some point you gotta check your morals. A person like that isn’t worthy of love. It’s sad that he died but he put himself in a very dangerous situation.
Poor guy, just yearned to be close to someone, believed her lies due to his lack of experience of intimacy and belief in love.. so so sad
Wish people like him would know their value.
And maybe that women like her didn't overr value themselves ha?
Difficult these days in the western world.
Where straight white men are constantly demonized by the race-baiting mainstream media...
@@russ549might as well say thing about shitty men lol. Way to twist things around 👌
Everytime I think I made mistakes I see stories like this and realize that love is where we all make mistakes. You think you’ve heard it all and then you see one more story that makes you shake your head.
People lie to themselves to maintain relationships.
They say love is like a drug and that's why people don't think logically. It's easy to tell him to leave her, but his love for her, and his lack of confidence w/ women was his downfall when dealing with a manipulative person. Sure he probably knew he should end the relationship, but deep down he stayed loyal, and unfortunately paid with his life for that loyalty.
Yes~loyalty can be a beautiful thing OR a disastrous or even deadly end!!! You have to be careful with a loving heart-the best solution is to develop intuition and logic to guide it.
Monster is a good word for her. I am so sorry for Bruce. Crappy self-esteem puts so many people (men and women) to “settle” for so much less than they deserve. The monsters would still find targets, but they’d have to work harder.
So let me get this straight. She told him she would falsely accuse him of molesting her son, yet he still thought there was hope for the relationship? Wtf is wrong w some people. She is very evil and he was very ignorant.
Wow this is crazy. Poor Bruce. It's sad he had such low self-esteem
It's pretty much all a crappy woman. No need in blaming the victim here. It's not nice or appropriate.
Self esteem does not grow on trees, that's a glaring lack of parenting.
If eventually i have children it will be the first thing i will taught to them.
Empathy also.
Have a good one.
@@BWS952 Low self esteem, high self esteem? How important is your opinion of yourself as long as you don't hate yourself continually (manufacturing reasons to be angry at yourself).
I have no reason to believe he had low self-esteem outside of what Dr G insinuated. She was a *predator;* we know this. Everyone is in danger of predators, no matter in what regard they hold themselves.
This makes me so sad because she could have left this man alone and he probably would have found somebody who would have truly loved him
Right. She was a selfish, manipulative witch.
no he was too passive and weak for any women to love him
Bruce was very much trauma bonded to her and it cost him his life.
Yep trauma bonds are hard to recognize and to break … 😢
I can't see why Bruce was labelled unattractive. So sad.
Rebecca convicted herself with how she treated Bruce. Even if there was less evidence a jury would convict her just based on how awful she was to him and then to just coldly end him like that.
Never underestimate a juries power to be unrationally lenient when judging a woman of fertile age.
@@derstoffausdemderjoghurtis weirdo
@@derstoffausdemderjoghurtis what a weird thing to believe.
@@lostandfound5145 Yea very weird to think that humans, specifically men, have a natural instinct to value the life of a woman more then the life of men or old people.
"Women and Children first!"
that has a reason and it is survival
Wonder who they will treat in a hospital if there are limited resources? It's gonna be young woman. There isn't normally a problem with that instinct.. till it comes to the judging of a court.
@@derstoffausdemderjoghurtis is everyone running around relying on natural instinct all the damn time, though? Are you saying that many people are irrational, emotionally driven morons? Maybe you’re right. Are there studies that really break down why women are given lighter sentences.
You know how women cry that they’re paid less than men based on statistics? But instead of finding out “why” they just cry sexism?
Men often do the same about women in the court system and I find that it’s the same terrible and emotional argument. Correlation doesn’t equal causation and all of that.
Let me be clear-I do not know when it comes to juries why they rule the way they do-I’m not saying your theory is implausible or impossible
But I really hesitate to believe that many people on a Jury are operating on such a low level of insight and reason.
And that truly could be wishful thinking. I really don’t know!
Wow! This was such a sad story. Greed makes bad people even worse.
Oh, much empathy for Bruce. A pure soul preyed upon by a soulless individual
I was listening to this on headphones while cleaning and when he described Bruce as not being physically attractive, I expected some Quasimodo looking guy. Bruce was actually a handsome man IMO, he looked like a great guy who deserved a GOOD woman to value him and make him happy. RIP Bruce, you deserved so much more in life 😢
F you Rebecca.
Bruce reminds me of my dad. Willing to let any degree of abuse or manipulation slide on a whim, for the sake of keeping his partner happy. After an entire childhood of living through him enabling his partners, I've been diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder, among other things. Go figure.
I’m so sorry you had this happen to you. I hope you are healing and getting the support you need.
How's your dad doing? I'm not negating your experience but your dad probably has a lot of mental issues also.
In some of these, the phrase “…without the possibility of parole” just sounds a bit more satisfying. Thanks, Doc
If you wouldn't mind covering a story regarding a friend of mine named Christian Kennedy and his cousin, Matthew Redd. I'm in the US army and Kennedy was in my unit as a military intelligence specialist on ft bragg. He was a small fellow maybe 5'5 130lb or something and he was a good sport about being teased about it and a very good soldier. Everyone liked him. Recently he shot someone to death during a fight with someone accused of abusing one of his relatives. Him and his cousin are now charged with murder.
It doesn't make sense why he would do something like this. I'd be very interested in listening to your analysis about what you think could have occurred in a situation like this.
Thank you.
I say comment this on recently uploaded videos soon after they were uploaded.
I always think if someone is being a good sport about being teased they are usually seething inside. Putting a good front on is the best way they’ve found to get on with things but resentment and anger build up. Teasing someone all the time about their personal traits, physical or otherwise, isn’t a kind or wise thing to do
@eveapple4928 No, I knew him well. He wasn't seething with rage. He was a good sport. He was influenced by someone older who he trusted and thought it was self defense when he pulled the trigger because he didn't understand the law.
Usually I watch the videos about three times. This one? Once is enough. It's painful to know what he endured.
I am always surprised how some people can be exceedingly intelligent in some areas but lack common sense in other areas.
As for Rebecca, she was truly an abomination. How unlucky for Bruce to ever meet someone like this.
Thank you, Dr. Grande.❤
Yah.Ive noticed lots of them the last couple of yrs..
Book smart vs Street smart.
@@roseaduke8835He had low self-esteem and was inexperienced with women.
People can be smart but dealing with something that you have longed for and never experienced is something different. Women…younger in most cases with decent looks as Rebecca wasn’t beautiful can break many men of this caliber. A dose or the possibility of the 📦 will make those men simp at a level you may not be able to imagine and it’s quite unfortunate
Unfortunately academic intelligence and emotional intelligence are very different.
Shout out to her sister for being an actual human being.
Poor Bruce married the wrong sister, the family psychopath !😐I'm glad she's in prison.
When society doesn't shame you like South Korean. America all race , no one shame one another , only in your family maybe...but not society as whole !
@@Moodboard39 I don't understand your point. Are you saying that Sputh Korea does or does not shame people?
@@Moodboard39what drugs were you on when you left this comment
Ok so this one made me SO mad. Bruce just wanted a nice lady to spend his life with and unfortunately instead of a lady he came across a DEMON. And didn't have the experience to see she was using him and taking him for a ride. Poor bruce, he deserved SO much better. Im shaking with rage hope shes going through hell in prison
Let’s be honest here - she’s probably roped another dope on some prison dating service
I hope so too, but she IS a
manipulator and they never change.
There was another woman on a true crime show that did the same thing. She found A sexually inexperienced man told him that they wouldn’t have sex until they were married all the while she was having sex with other people. I think the only big difference between this case and the other case is Bruce had more money than the other guy that was also killed after he got married. Just like Bruce and Rebecca, that other couple never consummated their marriage.
It’s sad how some women are so manipulative. Instead of appreciating having a guy that hadn’t slept with 50 women before they met, they manipulated them with plans of murder.
There are a lot of cases that follow that pattern on the show Deadly Women
@@mbb-- ID Channel, very good
It's sad how some men AND women manipulate and mrder. It's not just one gender, and if we are to look at domestic m.rdrs it is morrly to be the man who unalives the woman.
Yeah if he had a good heart and morals and wasn’t promiscuous-he was a catch…. and predators aren’t shy, so she got her hands on him, sadly. Innocence is a great thing but naivety is so dangerous.
Who was the other woman?
I enjoy how you speculate without judgment. You're open opinions are always something that keeps me watching. I've watched many different podcasts on crime yet Dr Grande puts a twist on his show which keeps me interested.
What a soulless piece of work!
"My wife doesn't believe in sex after marriage."
-Woody Allen
One of the best channels on RUclips. Instead of watching TV as I fall asleep, I roll Dr. Grande's videos all night. I never get awakened by obnoxious noises...just nice relaxed talk.
Me too. He has the most relaxing voice ever. I play him at 75% speed so I can relax more with the slower pace. I have been binge listening at bedtime for months.
@@greatamericandreamrealty802 75% speed? OMG, never thought of that. I might never wake up listening to that though lol You seriously gave me a great chuckle, thanks :)
you guys must have youtube premium, I wish I could fall asleep to his videos without skipping an ad every 5 minutes
You must have RUclips Premium!
(Just like me….no Ads!!!)
@@user-th6rh8zp3t hahaha! I just wrote that and then I read your comment!!!
I had never heard of this case before.
The callousness of Rebecca preying on Bruce’s low self esteem was totally abhorrent. Making him beg and humiliating him at almost every single turn cheeses me off. She’s awful.
Bruce sounded like a good guy. He obviously needed some guidance to be aware of vultures like Rebecca to stop from being taken advantage, but hey, I’m sure we’ve all been naive at some point or another in our lives. I know I have. Either way he deserved better. RIP.
And thank you for another insightful analysis, Dr. Grande! Stay awesome. 😎
I always enjoy your perspective, you frame it in terms we can all understand. Thanks 🇨🇦
This story was so sad. Such an unnecessary tragedy of a good man.
A lot of women cause unnecessary tragedy’s of good men
I am halfway through watching this and it makes me sick at heart. I hope she was severely punished
This story is hard to watch but Rebecca and her cousins were sent to prison for the rest of their lives. Rebecca appealed in 2006 and the LWP sentence upheld.
Can't believe something like that happened in real life... there are monsters living with us day by day... just existing to do damage to good people.
This is the scariest episode yet!
I can only get mad at this story otherwise I would have a deep sadness and feel horrible! This nice, kind man deserved so much better and ended up with this vile, evil piece of s#*t!
What a perfect storm of a tragedy 😢 Bruce was an innocent babe, and that woman was a vicious wolf! Very glad Bruce had some justice, and those scumbags are in prison for the rest of their lives! Thank you again, Dr. Grande, for your excellent analysis 👏
When evil meets pathetic.
A very important lesson in what happens when you have a lack of boundaries in a relationship as well as holding to ideals of someone not congruent with how they treat you.
Yes! Unfortunately, the lesson of this story is being missed by most of the comment section who wants to point finders at genders. PEOPLE, HUMANS have the capacity for bad things. Stop allowing yourselves to be taken on rides because you want sex/companionship. See the person for who they are, not what you hope they will be.
@@sj3969 this is something i struggled with too, i made this comment because i dont want to end up like bruce.
Oh thank god a Dr grande video, it’s 1am here and I needed something good to watch
I am constantly amazed at how two siblings can presumably be raised in the same home by the same parents, and one turns into a monster without conscience who is willing to have her husband wiped out so she can have his money and the other turns into a decent human being who is willing to go to the police and let them know her sister tried to get her to find someone to do the deed. I also saw this in the Chandler Halderson case. Chandler was nothing but a liar and basically a NOTHING and what he did to his parents was monstrous and his brother, to all accounts, was a decent and productive member of society. How do siblings who are raised together turn out so differently? And sadly, Bruce had nowhere near enough life experience to put up with a manipulator like Rebecca.
Unfortunately thats where nature wins against nurture
Simple, one sibling takes 100% responsibility for his/her life, actions and forges his/her own character made of steel, the other sibling takes zero responsibility for his/her life.
parent/s treating their children differently. eg favourites and scapegoats
My dad worked in a juvenile correctional center for young sex offenders, and said sometimes, you read the file and know exactly why that kid turned into a monster, but sometimes, that kid has good parents, stable home life, no history of any abuse whatsoever, no red flags, or kid had been in therapy and the parents were doing everything right, and yet he decided to molest the neighbors' five-year-old (for example).
You can do everything the best you can and still have a monster.
Don't give her sister too many awards. After she was approached about hiring a hitman; she refused to participate BUT she didn't tell the victim that he had torpedoes out there gunning for him either. Also she didn't go to the police before hand to tell about the murder solicitation. That could have stopped this whole thing. Sounds to me like she got scared after it happened that she might get swept up as an accessory before the fact so she went to the cops and made a deal.
Poor Bruce. He had the bad luck of meeting a nasty, lying, evil woman
Your opinion on this one was pretty profound. Thank you for sharing. I hope this helps people similar to Bruce.
Dr.G! I just saw how you've diligently sorted your recent videos into playlists! I feel so spoiled! Thank you! 🤗
The two best days of my life…The day my son was born and the day my divorce was final. Lol
Sad the divorce part.
So, not a boat owner? 😉
@@LaniLanilei Greatest day of many mens lives now days. 🤷🏻♂️
@@empressoftheknownuniverse I own two boats actually. One I sail in Regatta’s and the other is a jet boat for skiing and racing my friends and taking the 20 yr old females I date out on. 😉
@@Ajuntapall Ha! You sound like too much fun to be genuine. 🤔
Bruce was NOT a physically unattractive man. Once again people believe the crap they're told about themselves.
I feel so sad for Bruce. He was probabily a good guy, a bit insecure and anxious, and while focusing on his studies and later career, he didn't socialize with others,which led him to stay very innocent or better said unknowledgeable about love and social interactions and how to read people. Poor guy
I love your videos Dr G but jeez this was a sad one. Not even your best quips made me smile as excellent as they were... I was feeling too sad for poor Brucie 😢 bless his poor heart and soul ♥️
me also. so sad.
Very sad situation. Where was his family? How could he be that naive? You never mentioned if he had any siblings; someone to give him some feedback. He seemed like such a nice guy. This is one reason why some men don't trust women.
@blaylum Thanks. I missed that. I was just so saddened at this. Such a good man destroyed by greed
Nonsense. What does the current "PUA" trend and illegal sex tourism consist of, if not 99% men? Occasionally some conniving females try to copy the wicked ways of dishonest confidence tricksters, but the balance remains heavily on the male side of the equation.
@Charmae Sykes he also moved in with his parents after their honeymoon, so he definitely had family around him...if they advised him on his relationship he obviously didn't listen to them
@@gRinchY-op5vr So 😢 sad!
I would hope they told him something. It could be she had them fooled also. A true virtuous woman. Yeah right!
"This is one reason why some men don't trust women." Dude look at the statistics of men who kill their partners vs. women who kill theirs. This comment is laughable.
Oh wow! I have always felt so sorry for Bruce! So sad. Looking forward to hearing your analysis. ☺️
it's a sad life. i feel upset for him. poor bruce rip
Hey! I was getting worried about you. You never go a day without a great video. Glad you upload another amazing analysis
Wow, she’s a piece of work 😢🤬
Thank you for referring to it as "bringing an end to their life" ...as opposed to "commited" a crime
I had a hard time getting over Bruce's 70's hair, but he was certainly not bad looking as a young man, and as a mature adult aged better better than average, in my opinion. It is always surprising when people don't ask people out for a date because they are sensitive about their looks. They don't even seem to consider asking out the less attractive people who might jump at the offer! And then there are people like Rebecca, who are not particularly attractive, but never lack for romantic attention.
This is very disturbing to me. I had to step away for awhile. Why do bad things happen to loving people.
Why didn't she get the death penalty. I'm not for the death penalty but for her I'd make an exception.
Why Bruce why....because you loved someone that did not love you back. There is a woman that would love you.....you never met her .... Rebecca robbed you of that too.
Very true! If I had a husband like that I would treat him like a king!
I feel so sad for him.
@@fatimaqasim6222 me too
@WrongOpinion
Hot got him murdered.
@@fatimaqasim6222 Exactly! Some of us are over here single and praying to find our person, and this lady is so abysmally cruel to a man who loved her and was kind to her. Just shaking my head. So sad for him. It appears he was lonely both in singleness and in marriage.
@@mary_puffin yes. Sad indeed.
Such a sad case. Another example of the importance of insight. Having a clear perception of the situation is particularly hard when emotions are involved, and aren't they always involved in a romantic relationship? Great profile as always, Dr. Grande.
All he wanted was to be loved and got that instead. What a shame
He shouldve left her alone from the start . He not realizing what she doing to him . Love and humble would cloud his thinking
What a crying shame for Bruce. I lived in Whittier for a couple of years. There are many beautiful areas there - such as Friendly Hills. This woman is pure evil.
As a former life insurance agent, the insured would need to have a physical prior to the policy going into effect. So the buyer of the policy can forge it if they want, but it's actually not valid anyway
Someone can be intelligent but not smart in other matters. Lack of self esteem makes folks do non healthy things. So sad for him to get with a monster. Thanks Dr G😉💖💖
Sad thing is I know someone like this. She married in her words ‘the most unattractive and gullible man on the planet’, but the poor thing has good job and money. She refuses to get a job and boasts about sleeping with their decorator and her ex and spends money like there is no tomorrow. Her husband knows as people in his circle all try to beat some sense into him and would not leave.
They are narcissist,devils in human form
Thats the ugly head of codependency rearing itself strongly!
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@@TheDweeb002 Been noticing this variously as well. What's behind it, I wonder?
give her a punch for the rest of us
As a man that recently got separated from a narcissistic woman with histrionic traits this was incredibly chilling to see. Makes me wonder where it could have led if I didn't improve my insight and self-esteem through introspection enough to decide to divorce from her. She managed to get a restraining order against me on bogus charges to save her image and appear as the victim, but the divorce trials is coming where, I'll likely be from the start seen as the perpetrator due to my gender. Don't care, all I want is to get divorced from this creature and send her back to the shithole she came from (while I'm not rich, I'm a EU citizen and she's from South America and this is the supply that she was getting from me). I just want her gone from my life. Attacked my image, my friend group, my job.
Glad you are getting out, stay safe.
The story is the same in many many marriages.....only the endings are different.
Great video and great research, as always ! Your videos are always a great source for information about a case.
Besides that, would you be interested in covering Shanquella Robinson‘s case? I just learned about her death yesterday and am shocked at how little coverage her case has gotten. I know it is an ongoing and open investigation, yet I‘d still be interested in hearing your opinion.
Have a great day :)
These phenomenal analyses are never to be taken for granted. You have an ability to paint a picture that makes you forget that the images are in your head. These videos are one of the few reasons I still use this platform.
Did the prosecution argue how impossible it is for the killer to be her cousin by sheer coincidence? Why would people think the state didn't have a good case?
Such a shame and waste of a life. I would have loved to have been with someone as brilliant, kind, and caring as him. RIP Bruce
I just discovered your podcast. Thank you for making my dream marriage of true crime and psychology come true💗.
Thanks!
Shocking story, poor lad. RIP. Bruce.
It's terrible that for a lot of people that got bullied in high school, there always is that voice in the back of your head that tells you that you are not good enough and that you should be happy someone wants to be with you. I think a lot of people recognize this, I do. It can cloud your judgement and make you hold on to bad partners. This makes you vulnerable to people willing to exploit you. We need to be aware of that and choose what's best for us. Better be alone than in bad company.
Thank God for Becka's sister you did the right thing girl
I’m glad she spoke up but I wish she would have said something before the murder
Where was his family? How can he be so smart and be so NOT smart?
7:54 wait what???? Dude
right on Dr. Grande!
Dr Grand you report on many heartbreaking cases. Do some get to you?
Poor Bruce. I don't even think that he was as ugly, as people try to make him seem out to be. He was an average looking guy. He seemed very gentle, and just really wanted to love. This is so sad. Dudes really have to be careful for these Jezebel types. She is a psychopath.
This is why it is so important for people to learn about cluster b personality types. Because, good people often project their goodness on to others. Psychopaths search out good people. Bruce deserved love, and did not deserve to die like this. The story literally makes me want to cry. Cry. This is so unfair. Evil knows no bounds.
Poor Bruce, his bar was so low
Bruce wasn’t prepared for the mean streets of life in the big city. Heart breaking. He knew computer science but had not a clue about the dark side of human nature. He wanted to love her but she wanted to kill him. As for Bruce and his naivety, with his need for female companionship, what happened to him I fear was inevitable.
Never married. Never really ever dated. I don’t think I’m super ugly. But I never met a woman that I trusted, as far as I could spit. Never a reason to. It’s a messed up world.
On behalf of half the world's population, I thank you from the bottom of my heart.
Hello 👋 good Dr. Grande ... love ❤️ your consistency
Why do I still find it hard to believe there are such people like Rebecca in this world...poor Bruce. Evil has no limits. 13:58
Okay, take note, everyone - Bruce in high school, admittedly not good-looking, turned into a reasonably attractive man.
Time and time again, teens who look like something the cat drug in either grow into their features, or simply learn how to do their hair/makeup/clothing more attractively, which raises their confidence and accomplishes the same end. Teens need to know this happens.
Some are late bloomers
90% of the time the guys in these stories just need to lift weights.
"Drug" is NOT the past tense of DRAG. The correct word is "Dragged" (even for Americans).