Did Parents Have Secret Daughter Impersonate Murder Victim? | Mary Day Case Analysis

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  • Опубликовано: 17 ноя 2024

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  • @kvacka
    @kvacka Год назад +105

    She alone said it so well to one of the investigators: "If you found my dead body, how would you prove that it was really me?" He was quiet for few seconds, then replied with one word: "DNA..." And then she said to him something like this: "So, if you could prove that it was me with my dead body, how can't you prove it now when I'm still alive? Do I have to die so you could do your detective work?" That was brilliant! Poor woman.

    • @user-xg3uy6hq9g
      @user-xg3uy6hq9g Год назад +1

      she wasn't too informed.

    • @HLB313
      @HLB313 Год назад +9

      But also, they DID prove she was a relative with DNA and she still wasn’t believed

  • @rejaneoliveira5019
    @rejaneoliveira5019 Год назад +60

    This story is heartbreaking. I will never understand this level of neglect and callousness towards children.
    Thank you for you compassionate and thoughtful analysis, Dr. Grande.❤

  • @annereidy7981
    @annereidy7981 Год назад +78

    Thank you for giving Mary's story a voice, outside the noise that silenced it!

  • @death2theworld
    @death2theworld Год назад +138

    I watched a 48 hours and already knew she wasn't an impersonator just from the picture alone. It was obvious. It's a sad thing this woman was doubted till the end while she was dying of cancer ;/ what a rough life. All because it was too "far fetched" for the cops.

    • @crystalairgood9845
      @crystalairgood9845 Год назад +22

      I felt bad about that also. She was their sister regardless and should have been treated a lot better by all involved

    • @110311DONTWANTCHANNE
      @110311DONTWANTCHANNE Год назад +7

      it was not proven it was her. There are many red flags that she was killed as a child.

    • @jhozthron4415
      @jhozthron4415 Год назад +12

      @@110311DONTWANTCHANNE Come on, the women had zero benefit from pretending to be mary day.

    • @110311DONTWANTCHANNE
      @110311DONTWANTCHANNE Год назад +2

      @@jhozthron4415 she could be disturbed by an abusive up bringing and brainwashed into following orders, she could have been offered to be the sole heir...

    • @celeca7
      @celeca7 Год назад +15

      @@110311DONTWANTCHANNE Look at the comparison photo at 13:59. Look closely at the nose, the nostrils. Its her.

  • @sideshowratt
    @sideshowratt Год назад +17

    Unless the secret daughter was an identical twin, there's no question that the photos all show the same person. I can see why the sisters wanted "Monica Devereux" to be an imposter - they wanted to see their horrible parents experience some level of punishment. But the police? It sounds like the police were just refusing to admit they were wrong.

  • @lorrieborder2992
    @lorrieborder2992 Год назад +88

    This is such a tragic story of abuse and neglect that followed her throughout her whole life. I’ll never understand how or why.

  • @angelatheriault8855
    @angelatheriault8855 Год назад +43

    I disagree about the difficulty in picking up an accent unless you were exposed to it a young age. After visiting a roomful of my cousins in Kentucky, I caught myself talking just like them in about 40 minutes.

    • @johannas.l.brushane2518
      @johannas.l.brushane2518 8 дней назад

      I agree with you. The age of nine or ten is perhaps correct to be able to learn a new language without trace of an accent. I grew up in northern Sweden where there can be significant variations in dialects and grown ups often pick up a new accent when moving to a new town.
      Same with suburbs in larger cities with dominant immigrants of certain ethnic background, teenagers who come in contact with it at first hand if starting school there often tend to start to talk with "broken Swedish" as well. I think acquiring a specific pattern of speech can be done well higher up in age than the ability to erase some.
      She could have met someone with a southern accent with whom she felt safe with and been with for some years. If she was abused often by her father she probably stop to recognise "why" relatively soon and thus not remembering that this specific time she was blamed for the dog being sick (dog probably gulped in something when the dude was walking the dog or something similar common).

  • @BigZebraCom
    @BigZebraCom Год назад +80

    Just a reminder I'm not diagnosing anybody in this video; only speculating about what happens when a secret daughter impersonates a murder victim like this.

    • @MariaLopez-hc2nm
      @MariaLopez-hc2nm Год назад +1

      YES, repeat after me... Just remember I'm not....Bla bla..

  • @IsmaelLovecraft
    @IsmaelLovecraft Год назад +32

    I've read that it used to be common for men going in the Service to adopt, to simply absorb, Southern accents when they were in basic training or boot camp, but that they soon lose them. Mary was only thirteen when she ran away, and then, presumably, she lived in the South for a long time.

    • @TheOriginalCFA1979
      @TheOriginalCFA1979 Год назад +7

      My Canadian great aunt got married and moved to Kentucky. 30 years later when I was born, her and her husband had the exact same accent, and if they came home for a few months her accent remained fully a southern US accent. My uncle was raised in Kentucky but told me he taught himself to speak with a slightly different accent than his natural accent to sound like “less of a hick.”
      I also had a friend in college who left Canada as teenager for Tennessee and came back, he had a distinct southern accent. He said specifically you’ll pick it up quick when everyone says you talk funny. Unlike my aunt who’s husband was from Kentucky, his faded once he was living away from anyone else using the accent.
      To think an accent is locked in at age 10 is nonsense. I could understand if we were talking about non-English accents, it can be very hard to learn completely new sounds for a new language, but accents change based on what you hear every day, and in some places you’ll adopt an accent just so you’re less of an obvious outsider because outsiders get ostracized.
      And, I’m not saying she was bullied into speaking like a southerner, I’m just saying there a lot of reasons an adult’s accent will change ranging from exposure, to wanting to fit in, to being self conscious about how their way of speaking leads to them being perceived by others.

    • @IsmaelLovecraft
      @IsmaelLovecraft Год назад +5

      ​@@TheOriginalCFA1979 you're right, of course. people tend to think that what typically happens, what most people do or experience, is what happens to everyone.

  • @aicc1728
    @aicc1728 Год назад +60

    One of the cops still thinks she’s an imposter. He’s an idiot, and yes, I am diagnosing that.

    • @tankthearc9875
      @tankthearc9875 Год назад

      the avg cop is dumb and if they want you pinned for a crime they will make the evidence fit

    • @hayze80
      @hayze80 Год назад +8

      🤣🤣🤣 not a laughing matter but you're comment cracked me up

  • @PyrPupMom
    @PyrPupMom Год назад +25

    He cared more about a dog than a child 😢

    • @I_love_all_the_animals
      @I_love_all_the_animals 6 месяцев назад +2

      Dogs can be children, too. 🤷🏻‍♀ My dogs were mine, and I surely care about them more than any child of anybody else’s, too, when they were alive. But I understand what you mean, and I agree that someone (a parent, especially) should never want to hurt, let alone, murder, a child, especially his/her *own* child. There is no call for that.

  • @jillhansen3911
    @jillhansen3911 Год назад +35

    This doesn’t make sense. Mary is the daughter of Charlotte and Charles, but the woman pulled over in Arizona is the daughter of Charlotte and William per DNA.

    • @Wazupiseeyou
      @Wazupiseeyou Год назад +5

      No

    • @Slodzia
      @Slodzia Год назад +1

      rightly noticed, besides, there is something really wrong here and it stinks. Personally, I don't believe that Phoenix Mary is Mary Day. DNA tests...hmmm..no comment

    • @lauraschroeder8177
      @lauraschroeder8177 Год назад +1

      The mother (dirtbag) had multiple affairs and got pregnant. Mary Phoenix was given up at birth and then contacted later by the guilty parents. The stepfather did it.

    • @misstbull
      @misstbull 7 месяцев назад +6

      RIGHT!!! Doc musta got mixed up...

    • @billcutting6287
      @billcutting6287 3 месяца назад +3

      Exactly what I was about to say!

  • @perrymichales4242
    @perrymichales4242 Год назад +62

    I am grateful for my parents keeping me and my siblings sheltered from the ways of the world until we could handle experience that changed us into responsible and caring adults

    • @KarlMarxFanClub
      @KarlMarxFanClub Год назад +8

      Me too. I feel extremely blessed and grateful.

    • @dissidentfairy4264
      @dissidentfairy4264 Год назад +9

      So am I. I grew up with a wise father and a caring mother. In saying that, my father was caring too and my mother perceptive. I may have been overly protected as a child and a teen, but looking back on it I'm grateful and wouldn't change a thing.

    • @moonstruck562
      @moonstruck562 Год назад +5

      @@dissidentfairy4264 how wonderful. I envy you, in a good way of course. God bless them.

    • @dissidentfairy4264
      @dissidentfairy4264 Год назад +3

      @@moonstruck562 I'm sorry Moon Struck if you didn't have the same. If not, I feel for you. Every child deserves to feel safe, secure, loved, and carefree. Even though there is a sense of freedom in being an adult and thinking for oneself, I look back with fond memories at my childhood and think those were the happiest years of my life.

    • @lindaardigo5456
      @lindaardigo5456 Год назад +1

      Yes indeed.

  • @rileyluce1614
    @rileyluce1614 Год назад +209

    A good reminder that if you’re ever being interrogated about a murder that never happened, you should probably avoid blaming it on the devil inside of you.

    • @aarondavis8943
      @aarondavis8943 Год назад

      So many good Christian folk murdering people.

    • @kingslob3422
      @kingslob3422 Год назад +5

      Unless the person is actually guilty, in which case talk as if you were alone.

    • @marywenzel3199
      @marywenzel3199 Год назад +9

      That begs the question though: why did 4 cadaver dogs alert strongly to human remains in the yard where a child’s shoe was discovered? They alerted again at the subsequent address the family moved to, though there were no other things found. A body had been buried and then moved. Whose? No way 4 different canine teams got that wrong-twice. Either Charlotte and William buried someone or they were so cursed they had the misfortune to pick nor one but 2 homes that had human remains in the yards left by previous owners. But apart from the shoe and the scent, No body parts where found to test, and the real Mary spent almost a year with a foster family after she allegedly died. I believe the real Mary resurfaced after all those years, having suppressed 30 year old memories after a lifetime of trauma and alcoholism. Charlotte had had a number of kids with different men and was not mentally organized enough to keep track of them all. So I find the idea that she had a “secret daughter” that looked exactly like her eldest daughter who had been missing for 30 years and could be talked into posing as a sister she’d never met extremely outlandish. The adult Mary talked funny and didn’t remember certain incidents from childhood-but her DNA is the convincer for me. This woman and Mary had the same mother and father, Charlotte and Charles. That trumps everything. But who did the cadaver dogs smell? A bizarre case all around.

    • @fayelitzinger9824
      @fayelitzinger9824 Год назад +4

      @@marywenzel3199 i don't know, but could cadaver dogs possibly hit on family pets buried in a backyard? pets would be a much more common thing to be buried in a backyard. or can they detect only human decay?

    • @h0rriphic
      @h0rriphic Год назад +2

      @@fayelitzinger9824 Oh no, cadaver sniffing dogs are specifically trained to detect human remains- they can absolutely differentiate between humans and animal cadavers. It’s amazing how powerful their noses are. I’ve read they can even smell things deep underground, something like 15-20 feet below the surface. Additionally they can smell things that have _previously_ been there. For example, a dog could alert to a seemingly empty trunk after someone used it to stash a corpse.

  • @Blissfulnessence
    @Blissfulnessence Год назад +104

    Wait ✋️ Was it a misspeak on Dr Grandè's part, or did the DNA truly show Mary as the biological child of Charlotte and *William* ,as opposed to Charlotte and Charles? Charles was listed as her bio dad, right?
    What a convoluted tale in any case.

    • @birdnerd6651
      @birdnerd6651 Год назад +25

      I had the same question

    • @TheLadyWrites
      @TheLadyWrites Год назад +13

      Me too

    • @celeca7
      @celeca7 Год назад +19

      Me too. I'm so confused. Did she have an affair with William while she was married to Charles?

    • @Wazupiseeyou
      @Wazupiseeyou Год назад +15

      He misspoke.

    • @britneykay3740
      @britneykay3740 Год назад +6

      I caught that as well

  • @btetschner
    @btetschner Год назад +4

    Fascinating case, I would be curious what she did all those years.
    A person would have hardly any foundation to stand on if they left their family in today's world.
    Poor Mary Day, what a rough life she must have had.

  • @jackiegrice714
    @jackiegrice714 Год назад +3

    Listening to this was just fascinating. It never ceases to amaze me the lengths people will go to in order to prove a theory they already believe in instead of considering a more realistic option. Thank you for covering this Dr Grande.

  • @jamiclarkson5009
    @jamiclarkson5009 Год назад +28

    I'd like to hear your analysis of the Judith Barsi murders because many youtubers said "father was jealous as daughter was making more money than he ever did" and I cannot fathom that thought. Thanks for your videos regardless of if you ever do this one

    • @LadyOfMaine
      @LadyOfMaine Год назад +1

      My sister’s friend had to quit a high paying job because her husband was jealous. This was in the 80’s.

    • @lisaa.4667
      @lisaa.4667 Год назад +2

      I think it is hard for people to believe that there are parents out there who are very cold, such that they have no love for their own children, whom they raised from birth. In this case, I think it was easier to believe that the mother did not search for Mary because Mary was murdered by her witless stepfather, rather than believing that the mother simply didn't give a d-mn about her daughter.

  • @griffin2263
    @griffin2263 Год назад +17

    This whole story is so sad. On so many levels…

  • @rullmourn1142
    @rullmourn1142 Год назад +9

    The doubters can think what they want, but DNA does not lie.

  • @HolyMoly432
    @HolyMoly432 Год назад +11

    Thank you! I remember this story and have wondered who this woman was. I felt it had to be Mary Day but so many unanswered questions! Your great analysis clears it up for me. Poor girl. What a life. 💔

  • @Bebecat477
    @Bebecat477 Год назад +5

    How terrible for this little girl. 😞

  • @jademoon5103
    @jademoon5103 Год назад +8

    I was just reading about this. Such a sad story. She looked like a sweet girl. Her parents are the worst

  • @dissidentfairy4264
    @dissidentfairy4264 Год назад +31

    I totally agree with your analysis Dr. Grande. What derelict parents the three sisters had. Mary Day may have forgotten certain things based on psychological trauma. Her southern accent might be explained when she took on the New Orleans French-Cajun Deveraux identity. Some people are very proficient at imitating accents. She may have tried to distance herself in every way from her parents down to acquiring a new dialect.

  • @no_mnom
    @no_mnom Год назад +25

    8:29 Are you sure the DNA showed she was the child of William? He was the stepfather.
    The real father is Charles

    • @Blissfulnessence
      @Blissfulnessence Год назад +12

      Glad someone else caught that. I even relistened to be certain i heard it correctly.

    • @JugglingG
      @JugglingG Год назад +10

      This was a mistake. She was Charles daughter

    • @gigig6021
      @gigig6021 Год назад +5

      Thank you! That was all I could focus on!

  • @oceanstaiga5928
    @oceanstaiga5928 Год назад +27

    I’m nowhere near her age and I don’t remember that many specifics of when I was 13. Now add years substance abuse and chemo in the mix and i can see why she’d have an even harder time to remember. Personally I do think that it’s her.

  • @gabe-po9yi
    @gabe-po9yi Год назад +9

    It’s too bad the statute of limitations for child abuse and neglect had run out.

  • @daliakuwait
    @daliakuwait Год назад +8

    "To be fair, a lot of people have tried to forget the Mohawk!" 🤣🤣🤣 Dr. G you always have us laughing!

    • @I_love_all_the_animals
      @I_love_all_the_animals 6 месяцев назад

      I met a man with a mohawk, just yesterday, in fact, at the VA hospital.

  • @Polyphemus47
    @Polyphemus47 Год назад +28

    "The body must have been on their moving checklist". "To be fair, a lot of people have tried to forget the Mohawk". Comic relief! It's so clever of you to give us these little breaks from empathizing with the victims in your stories. "Poor, sweet little Mary. The poor mistreated dear. Hahaha! ...But imagine what she endured..."

  • @Bleda412
    @Bleda412 4 месяца назад +2

    A person can develop a different accent well-passed 9-10. My aunt moved to Texas for college and now speaks with the local accent. The most famous example of late-acquired accents is one female UFC fighter, McKenzie Dern, who speaks with a Brazilian accent despite being a native English speaker and having been raised in the US.

  • @margaretlumley1648
    @margaretlumley1648 Год назад +3

    Beautiful retelling of an achingly sad case, Dr Grande. Poor Mary Day! She really didn't stand a chance. And I did love your humour - especially the comment about Mother of the Year. Thank you 😊 💓

  • @tdoran
    @tdoran Год назад +1

    I love listening to you - and your take on different cases. I wish you had a podcast - your voice is so soothing!

    • @I_love_all_the_animals
      @I_love_all_the_animals 6 месяцев назад +1

      He *does* have a podcast, actually. It’s called Bella Grande Media, and there’s a link to it, right up toward the top of the description of this video, as well as every video Dr. Grande has published (probably), since his podcast came into existence. He also has a Patreon account that gives his audience extra content, for choosing to support him as Patrons. He mentions that, in every video, as well, and lists the link to it in the descriptions of all his videos, in case you’re interested.
      I love listening to him, too, but I must be content with the content he uploads to RUclips for his audience to enjoy, at no cost, because I live in poverty and cannot afford to pay for even essential things, let alone, anything I don’t truly need, at this point in my life. Someday, things will be different for me, in that regard, but not likely anytime soon.

  • @donalynette
    @donalynette Год назад +4

    This case was so complicated, I could not figure it out, even with your explanation. Just a very complicated sad story.

    • @legoqueen2445
      @legoqueen2445 Год назад +1

      Yup. I've had to rewind a few times and I'm still confused. I think I'll look for the 48 hours episode on it or try Google for more info. I'm intrigued but confused!

    • @Littlebabyandersen
      @Littlebabyandersen Год назад +1

      I believe it was made more complicated in order to try and fit the ridiculous theory of the police… but it’s actually not. Dr. Grande also incorrectly said that the supposed impostors dna test came back and said that William is her dad- that is not true- the woman pulled over in phoenix was Mary day. She ran away and the things she didn’t remember were due to alcohol use and trauma. William (her stepfather) probably did kill someone, I think that’s why the dogs hit on the yard… but dna doesn’t lie and she was who she said she was.

    • @karenryder207
      @karenryder207 3 месяца назад

      Well Dr grande made a few errors when telling the story.

  • @krystle4248
    @krystle4248 Год назад +3

    Damn you're at 1.23 mil. now! CONGRATS!

  • @remy333
    @remy333 Год назад +45

    It’s very possible that she is legitimately Mary Day. “Experts” are often wrong, and anyone who has spent a couple of months in another country knows just how quickly someone, especially a teenager, can sponge up specific verbal nuance and new speaking techniques. I don’t buy that she’d have to have been 9 or 10 to develop that level of southern drawl. It’s very possible to develop that in just months if you are immersed in it.
    The dna doesn’t lie. Could there have been a weird switcharoo? Maybe, but it’s more likely it’s her after serious abuse and years of repression.
    She even has the same eyes as her younger photos.
    I think she was a victim of child abuse and neglect, ran away for many years, and her crappy parents never cared.
    The question and speculation surrounding the timing of her ID being issued, is worth raising an eyebrow, but let’s not forget that coincidences like that occur in most cases, and are worthy of investigation, but largely red herrings.
    I used to have secret phrases with my cousin when we were teens, and now I can’t remember any of them. This case seems very face value to me. Which is sad. It’s bothersome to see humans grow up without sufficient nurturing.

    • @annereidy7981
      @annereidy7981 Год назад +5

      Yes, I believe you are right!

    • @celesteshenas2155
      @celesteshenas2155 Год назад +6

      And the same noses.

    • @remy333
      @remy333 Год назад +1

      @@celesteshenas2155 true!

    • @remy333
      @remy333 Год назад +2

      @@parttimehallmonitor that can absolutely be the case. You’re right in that a lot of these abused kids and especially young teens cases, they have speech development issues due to so many different or combined scenarios. Like actual lack of proper schooling, or physical abuse, long periods alone while being neglected either by a cold family or we even see these sorts of speech changes or impairments in people who’ve been abused by cults and escaped. The damage is often profound. But it’s good to know that with good people replacing the bad, and some time and care, these kids can make drastic improvements very rapidly.
      Sadly there are also those cases where the people who appear to be saving the day are even worse than those they “saved” them from. I think that happened recently where one family of kids survived being chained up and stuck indoors for years. The two daughters planned an escape and it worked.. but the people that some of the kids wound up with were stealing their money from charities and mentally abusing them. Really sad to see that happen. Just another reason to pay closer attention and make sure our kids are well looked after and have a solid care structure.

    • @donnaroberts9119
      @donnaroberts9119 Год назад +2

      I moved to Mississippi for 6 years, I picked up the accent and never noticed. My father said I sounded like a mouthful of mush

  • @manewland1
    @manewland1 Год назад +7

    Thanks, as always, Dr. Grande!

  • @kamelaparis7489
    @kamelaparis7489 Год назад

    Wow Dr G . The way you summed up this story was very heartfelt .

  • @erikamccarthy1457
    @erikamccarthy1457 Год назад +6

    12/17/22 What a tragedy, Mary had to live a lie without love and support from family members, not even her Sister she was so close to. Mary, rip🌹

  • @ciararyan9370
    @ciararyan9370 Год назад +9

    I disagree about the accent. Some people pick up accents more quickly than others. I have a little southern-ese in my speech after living with my Cajun husband for the past 19 years.

  • @rayross997
    @rayross997 Год назад +5

    Please speculate on the case of Charles Starkweather & Caril Fugate? Thanks Dr. Grande.

  • @karriemae5222
    @karriemae5222 5 месяцев назад

    Great assessment, Dr. Todd. Such a heart wrenching case. After I saw it on 48 hours, it was plain as day that she wasn’t an imposter. It was all in that cute little nose that she had. Broke my heart. The cops, while likely well meaning, we’re just trying to make the evidence fit their narrative. I hope she is feeling some sort of peace and love now that she didn’t get in life.

  • @LolaCMN
    @LolaCMN Год назад +5

    I don't understand the reasoning because Mary Day wasn't William's daughter. He was his stepfather, remember? Her father died.

  • @Claytone-Records
    @Claytone-Records Год назад +9

    What a sad tale that again proves fact is truly stranger than fictional secret daughters. If only we could forget the mullet as well as the Mohawk.

  • @deborahdushane
    @deborahdushane Год назад +9

    Wasn’t Mary a child of Charles and Charlotte?

    • @farrahfeathers6668
      @farrahfeathers6668 Год назад +1

      @ Deborah Dushane i was thinking the same thing. I could see Mary sharing Charlotte’s DNA,but not the stepfather’s? Strange & sad case nonetheless.

  • @firemedic556
    @firemedic556 Год назад +5

    Love to hear your analysis of Gregory Rasputin

  • @BumbleWolfx
    @BumbleWolfx Год назад +3

    Her family and the police are unbelievable.Good thing she left.

  • @KatieDoesCrime
    @KatieDoesCrime Год назад +3

    I covered this case recently and thought "mohawk" might refer to the river they grew up near in NY. Your theory is funnier. 🙂

    • @PFMediaServices
      @PFMediaServices Год назад

      Well dang, I was wondering what I was gonna binge after Dr Grande's videos and now you're all queued up in my playlist!

    • @KatieDoesCrime
      @KatieDoesCrime Год назад +1

      @@PFMediaServices Aww, thanks, that would be amazing of you!

  • @karis7649
    @karis7649 Год назад +5

    I find that surprising abt accent acquisition. (Not regarding this case necessarily- just in General). I know the LAD tends to become less active by age 7 but I’d suggest that many can have some adoption of new dialects & accents even into adulthood just as many people can learn new languages as adults.

  • @andreasrau2161
    @andreasrau2161 Год назад +2

    Good evening, Dr. Grande! Thanks again for your analysis and wry commentary.
    There is way too much drama with this case and too much indifference from Mary Day's parents to believe that they somehow had a spare, secret daughter impersonate her.
    And accusing William of having the Devil in his eyes might convince only some hard-core fundamentalist types that he murdered Mary, but the fact that her mother was largely unconcerned with Mary's disappearance and never reported it to the police is troubling.
    But then, they weren't reading the scripts for "Father Knows Best."

  • @AnonymousQwerty
    @AnonymousQwerty Год назад +4

    Hi Doc, can you analyze the case of Martin Shkreli?

  • @kelleybutler9203
    @kelleybutler9203 Год назад +6

    The slight southern accent is no big deal when a child is never given a true happy home and I running away the child will try anything to fit in everywhere she may travel. I remember a foster child that had been adopted by a good family that moved to Georgia and she developed a slight southern accent herself. The therapist said it was normal and she was happy and content to have been adopted by a loving family, this made her feel more at home and as 9th graders we just accepted her as she was, accent and all it was nice to see her smiling and then laughing more and more. The mind is a very complex organ and I’ll call her by her first letter of her name K., she thrived and when on to college with honors and is still happily married with three beautiful children. It’s so sad that even after a DNA test some of the girl from the story and even the cops wouldn’t believe her till her dying day. That breaks my heart especially knowing the beautiful life K ended up having after being adopted by a wonderful couple. I know it wasn’t the same but to doubt yer even after a DNA test is just on going horrible treatment by her family and the authorities.

  • @jenn8179
    @jenn8179 Год назад +4

    I'm confused...I thought Charles was Mary's father. Why would DNA show she was Charlotte and William's daughter? Did I miss something?

  • @wendyfrith3407
    @wendyfrith3407 10 месяцев назад +1

    My brother and I were born in the early ‘50s. Recently, a woman contacted me saying she’d been adopted as a child and had been searching for her biological parents…not that she thought they were alive as she was born in 1938 (and yes, my parents were long gone)..
    She said DNA indicated that she and I had the same mother.
    When we-my brother, his wife, my husband and I -eventually met her, we were shocked at how much like our mother she was, even the thatch of thick white hair that stood straight up like it was electrified.
    What was funny was that my husband kept saying, “she’s really got Paul’s nose.” (Paul was my father). We blew him off as it was our mother who was the parent in common, yet he persisted in his observation. But turned out he was right! Not only did DNA show we were full siblings, the surviving friend of an old friend was able to reveal the family secret. Our parents had had a baby out of wedlock who was adopted out. When dad came home from the war he and mom married. They never mentioned our big sister to us.

  • @reginafelizardo987
    @reginafelizardo987 Год назад +4

    Thank-you. Please analyze the recent case of Amy Brogdon Anderson, of Bay St Louis, Mississippi.

  • @jenz5607
    @jenz5607 Год назад +5

    May Mary rest in peace.

  • @loudtim265
    @loudtim265 Год назад +3

    “…about 13 years later…” 🤯

  • @davidwartski7213
    @davidwartski7213 Год назад +7

    I think I'd go with the DNA test over the cadaver dogs. And Mary could conceivably have been faking a southern accent for whatever reason. It's not unheard of. However, I did have friends who moved from New Hampshire to North Carolina as adults, and when they came back for a visit several years later, they had adopted southern accents. It was a bit unnerving, actually. I don't know if Mary had lived in the south, but if she had, it's conceivable that she might have adopted the accent. Did Mary ever recount her life starting from when she left her home? It would have been interesting to hear what she might have had to say.

    • @imaginempress3408
      @imaginempress3408 Год назад +3

      My best friend's sister went away to college in the South and in her 40s still has a significant Southern accent which she never had until going away to college at 18yrs. 🤷🏻‍♀️

    • @kaniq6120
      @kaniq6120 Год назад +1

      It might not be her real accent but she might not be faking it intentionally I've heard of people specifically children that came out of a traumatised situation and developed all kinds of wacky accents or even pretended to know another language because it was how they disassociated from their trauma pretending to be someone from somewhere else.

  • @vladimirputindreadlockrast812
    @vladimirputindreadlockrast812 Год назад +5

    The photo of "the woman" at 12:29 was taken by a famous bigfoot photographer with a potato camera. Of course she looks like Mary Day...she looks like anything you can imagine...literally. "When she asked her mother where Day went, Charlotte told her that Day ran away and to never speak her name again." And I thought my upbringing was cruel and unfair 😔 .

  • @RachelNobody
    @RachelNobody Месяц назад

    0:56 looked away for a second and thought that was his hair 😂
    thank you for your videos! big fan 😊

  • @endgargoyle1
    @endgargoyle1 Год назад +4

    Dr Grande, could you do a video for on the recent police executions carried out by Nathaniel, Gareth and Stacey Train in Queensland, Australia?

  • @christinley5213
    @christinley5213 Год назад +3

    This is a wild case!! My mind is blown! A lil confusing too!!! Very sad though:(

  • @JJW77
    @JJW77 Год назад +1

    Dr. Grande, good job as usual! Could you explain about her acquired accent when Mary reappear?

  • @TheKatyPB
    @TheKatyPB 9 месяцев назад

    Excellent analysis, doctor. Thank you

  • @HLB313
    @HLB313 Год назад +10

    I’ve seen this story on another channel - the imposter story seems so far fetched. The woman so clearly looks like Mary. It pains me that this woman could’ve been in and out of care, then her dad dies in an accident, she’s abused and then severely beaten then she runs away, nobody investigated it even years later when her sister tries. Then she’s reunited with her family who reject her despite a DNA match, then she dies of cancer? Even if the adult woman isn’t Mary she’s had a pretty terrible life.

  • @goodenoughgirl8102
    @goodenoughgirl8102 Год назад +2

    It could be that she lived with or hung out a lot with someone who was southern and moved to another state. There’s quite a few transplants all over the place. I’m southern and my accent changed a bit when moved to the Midwest for awhile.

  • @magicsparks2002
    @magicsparks2002 Год назад +5

    I don’t understand how they can base their denial of her based on an accent while discounting DNA yet DNA can convict you in a court of law so how is it not cast iron that it’s her. If I hear Americans talk I instantly start to mimic the accent I can’t help it. I’m 40 🤷‍♀️ lots of people soak up accents easily doesn’t take long.

  • @barbaragremaud3499
    @barbaragremaud3499 Год назад +4

    I think the adult looks exactly like the childhood picture!

  • @fififoofoo
    @fififoofoo Год назад +1

    Can you analyze the case of Noah Donohoe? I'd love to hear your thoughts about this bizarre case.

  • @marlinfisher2529
    @marlinfisher2529 Год назад +1

    A fantastic analysis of a sad life.

  • @pittroadsixzeroseven
    @pittroadsixzeroseven Год назад +1

    The parents should have left Mary with the state in HI. I am curious how Mary survived all these years when she was just a child.

  • @suereeves5994
    @suereeves5994 Год назад +4

    I am disturbed that the DNA said William was her father, I thought it was infallible

  • @marisa8699
    @marisa8699 Год назад +2

    But Mary's biological father was Charles, not William.

  • @cosmicalchemist8219
    @cosmicalchemist8219 Год назад +1

    I grew up in that area & never heard this story!

  • @elizabethhamm5320
    @elizabethhamm5320 Год назад +17

    I think that the police watched too many soap operas. That theory is as bonkers. I’m sorry that she wasn’t given a proper reunion with her sisters. She also should have been given trauma therapy. Her ultimate death was cancer. The stress that she was under just to fight for survival likely weakened her physically (along with the substance use). Your analysis was a fitting tribute to this poor woman. It also called out the police who really dropped the ball

    • @Andreamom001
      @Andreamom001 Год назад +1

      There was actually some good reasons to be suspicious at first. Girl is gone for decades and seeks an ID card suddenly just two weeks after they begin investigating her disappearance. Coming forward gets her $60,000+ inheritance. The parents have shown they are neglectful enough to lose a kid and not care. They seem like the types to dump a kid off somewhere and never look back.
      Wasn’t such a honkers theory, but once the evidence came in (the photo and DNA), they dropped it. The theory was wrong.

    • @Wazupiseeyou
      @Wazupiseeyou Год назад

      She did reunite and live with one of them for sometime.

    • @elizabethhamm5320
      @elizabethhamm5320 Год назад

      Oh good I’m glad to hear that

  • @reesemorgan2259
    @reesemorgan2259 Год назад +2

    She was a beautiful woman, in an understated way. On the thumbnail to this clip, she might be an actress on a film poster. What a rotten shame karma seems to have doomed her as a child. She deserved better.

  • @jantoles7637
    @jantoles7637 Год назад +3

    I just watched this video. Was Mary Day the child of charlotte's first husband? If so, how could her DNA say Bill and Charlotte were her parents? Did I misunderstand how many daughters Charlotte had by her first husband. No matter the answer, Mary was fortunate to have gotten away from these two monsters when she did. Did Mary tell that she had been doing in her life after she ran away and she was picked up in Phoenix? I live 20 miles from Phoenix, so this is even more interesting to me.

    • @Littlebabyandersen
      @Littlebabyandersen Год назад +2

      I really wish dr grande would update this video and acknowledge his mistake- he got it wrong- she was not Williams daughter

  • @mimidebrose
    @mimidebrose Год назад +1

    Very deep analysis!

  • @figplucker3052
    @figplucker3052 Год назад +12

    I don't think that one needs to be 9 or 10 to develop a Southern accent. My sister moved to Florida from our Northern state when she was in her mid-twenties. She speaks distinctly differently than the rest of the family. And Florida people of that time already had less of the typical Southern drawl than the surrounding states

    • @dammar117
      @dammar117 Год назад +2

      Your accent can change after years of being away from your native region, but you will never acquire a true native accent from a new place if you moved there after age 7. Even 9 or 10 is late. My niece moved at 8 and she doesn't have a local accent.
      More interesting, my grandfather moved from Spain to New York State at 24. Decades later, he spoke English with a Spanish accent and Spanish with an American accent. So,seven though he lost his native accent, he didn't acquire the one from his new place.
      The period when you can acquire a new mother tongue, or an accent if same language, is called the critical age. It ends around 7-8.

    • @jessicaolson490
      @jessicaolson490 Год назад

      @@dammar117 you can still make your self learn an accent, esp of a language you already know. Subconsciously and with intention are two different things. I've known plenty of teens or adults that don't like their native accent in a new place and actively try to adopt the new accent (mostly it was Southern to California accent). They could completely drop their southern accent, they might never speak quite as fast as a native California but still you wouldn't know they were Southern unless they dropped down into their drawl on accident. Also their are outliers for every norm. In highschool one of my friends went from zero English to fluent and no accent in less than 2 years. She also already knew 3 languages, she was one of those gifted people that seem to pick up language like a little kid.

    • @dammar117
      @dammar117 Год назад

      @@jessicaolson490 Yes, it is possible. My daughter is like your friend. But that is quite rare.

  • @lalainerecasata7495
    @lalainerecasata7495 Год назад +1

    So sad but the Mohawk made me laugh😆😆😆

  • @NatBKyiv
    @NatBKyiv Год назад

    When I went to my grandma every summer I always had light accent when I came back home. It happens very fast

  • @jenniferrose745
    @jenniferrose745 Год назад +2

    Wait. If the woman was a biological child of both Charlotte and William then she couldn't have been Mary because William wasn't her biological father. Or did I hear something wrong?

  • @lastpme
    @lastpme Год назад +1

    Some kids are born into the world without really having a chance.

  • @SarahDunlap
    @SarahDunlap Год назад

    One of the best yet! Dr Grande content is like 🍷

  • @telix5000
    @telix5000 Год назад +1

    William was her stepfather. Her biological father is Charles Day.

  • @FilmArtPhoto
    @FilmArtPhoto Год назад +3

    It wasn't Mary Day if the DNA results said she was daughter of Charlotte and William.
    You stated Mary's father was Charles.

  • @LadyOfMaine
    @LadyOfMaine Год назад +5

    I’ve known this one guy since kindergarten (1960). He was my brother’s best friend. I knew his family.
    A few years ago, after his mother died, he was sitting around and ran her name through Google. He discovered he had a secret older brother. Before his parents were married, they had a baby they gave up for adoption because they couldn’t take care of him. Nobody ever knew except the parents and grandparents.
    The brother had made contact with the mother, but because she was terminally ill, she did not want to cause any issues.
    At least she found out what became of her baby.
    She was so nice ❤️

  • @maxoblivion
    @maxoblivion Год назад

    Well done Dr. Grande.

  • @MissingOurMissingPod
    @MissingOurMissingPod Год назад +2

    This doesn’t make any sense:
    *Mary was the child of Charlotte & Charles. Correct?
    *She had two younger biological sisters, Kathy & Sherry.
    *Charlotte married William & had 2 children: Billy Jean and William Jr.
    *Charles, Mary’s biological father died.
    Later, they do a DNA test & discover Mary is the child of Charlotte and William? William the second husband? Who basically confessed to the murder of his stepdaughter?
    So, either Charlotte & Charles never consummated their marriage (because how else would there be no DNA matching someone to Charles?) or there is something very weird here. If she was Charles’ daughter, did she just never get her inheritance or what?
    This is an extremely important piece of the story. Please correct/clarify this part of the story. This is the first I’ve heard of it & it is confusing as hell.

  • @andreamorton1884
    @andreamorton1884 Год назад +3

    Thank you , Dr. Grande that was an unusual series of events and very interesting. It might be better if some people didn't become parents, unfortunately.
    I have begun to notice that many male perpetrators seem to have a connection with the armed forces. It causes me to wonder if being exposed to the armed forces could somehow influence a person's perception of violence and being violent? I would love to hear your thoughts if you find this an interesting topic. I could listen to you and your cheerful, calm, cleverness all day :) Thank you for sharing

  • @110311DONTWANTCHANNE
    @110311DONTWANTCHANNE Год назад +2

    richard dawson (Family feud host) moved to the US as an adult and picked up a US accent....so that debunks the claim a person doesn't pick up accents past age 10

  • @berms1621
    @berms1621 Год назад +13

    What doesn’t make sense is why her DNA would match Charlotte and William. William was her stepfather. Her DNA should have matched her younger sisters Sherry and Kathy and their father Charles.

    • @laurenl.6291
      @laurenl.6291 Год назад +9

      That's what I came here to say. Mary was Charles' biological daughter. If the alleged imposter's DNA matched Charlotte and William, she was not the original Mary Day. I'm so confused.

    • @kenya1067
      @kenya1067 Год назад +1

      😮😯😯

    • @celesteshenas2155
      @celesteshenas2155 Год назад +3

      Charlotte had an affair with William while she was married to Charles.

    • @Wazupiseeyou
      @Wazupiseeyou Год назад +11

      He said wrong name.

    • @chriswhite4337
      @chriswhite4337 29 дней назад

      @@Wazupiseeyou twice ... ?

  • @melissawilson2066
    @melissawilson2066 Год назад +1

    well said. This was one of the stranger stories

  • @carolroberts8930
    @carolroberts8930 Год назад +2

    What a sad, sad story. There must be a special place in hell for such callous parents.

  • @MissingOurMissingPod
    @MissingOurMissingPod Год назад +3

    Am I the only person who is confused that she was the biological child of Charlotte & William?! As in, William, the stepfather? He’s said she’s William’s daughter at least twice. I’m not saying she’s an imposter, but if this is being repeated, I understand why people have that theory. It doesn’t quite make sense given that her biological father was Charles (allegedly) and she had biological sisters (allegedly). Are all those girls William’s? I mean… … ..???

    • @chriswhite4337
      @chriswhite4337 29 дней назад

      you're not the only one . we're out here 😁

  • @littleeva
    @littleeva Год назад +2

    I'm confused. Who was Mary's biological father? The DNA test said she was William's child, but shouldn't Charles have been her father?

  • @bonniebonnie7149
    @bonniebonnie7149 Год назад +2

    Who was Mary’s biological father? You said at first It was Charles, then at the end William. I know Charles had died, so did they compare DNA with her 2 sisters to rule out Charles as her father? And matched DNA with William? Charlotte must have claimed that Mary was Charles daughter in order to get death benefits for the girls. Please let us know. Thank you for this fascinating case.
    In the end, Sherry seems like the lucky one, to have been adopted by her foster family.

  • @Isabella66Gracen
    @Isabella66Gracen Год назад

    Wow. This story was crazy. Poor Mary.

  • @Loudes012
    @Loudes012 Год назад

    Yes those two pictures look alike.
    "NO those dogs aren't 100%", can't believe it.

  • @teletubbiestunetwister9570
    @teletubbiestunetwister9570 Год назад +6

    Dr. Grande or someone, can you explain how Mary Day's DNA was that of Charlotte and William's when she had a different father who died and left her an inheritance?

    • @Littlebabyandersen
      @Littlebabyandersen Год назад

      Dr. Grande made a mistake- she was not Williams daughter. If you go to his sources you can read the deal- not sure why he hasn’t yet addressed his mistake, but he makes a lot of videos and he’s human.

  • @carolann3249
    @carolann3249 Год назад

    Poor child , what a callous mother