7900 XTX Overclocking and Hotspot Testing | Star Citizen

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  • What has gone wrong with the 7900 XTX reference models?! In the video I did some overclocking and looked at the hotspot issue in Star Citizen.
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  • @unpacker9521
    @unpacker9521 Год назад +9

    Vapor chamber issue. Maybe not enough liquid in dry out or the design prevents liquid from circulating and cooling properly.

  • @bullymaguire8868
    @bullymaguire8868 Год назад +15

    I have the Red Devil 7900XTX and it's brilliant. Runs cool and quiet

    • @Astravall
      @Astravall Год назад +6

      I can confirm. My 7900 XTX Red Devil does not hit 110°C. My Delta is around 20°K. Although i must admit i seem to have to ramp up my case fans a bit. As it hits 80°C GPU and 100°C under heavy load. It was better with open case with 68°C and 88°C. On the other hand i like it quiet and even 100°C hotspot seem not too bad.

    • @bullymaguire8868
      @bullymaguire8868 Год назад +2

      @@Astravall yeah mine runs around 85 max. I have it undervolted and it's in a heavily ventilated Fractal case with all Noctua fans.

    • @rENEGADE666JEDI
      @rENEGADE666JEDI Год назад +1

      @@Astravall my 6900xt has been running around 95c for 2 years, of course, after a strong OC. And it works fine

    • @cjpp78ytube
      @cjpp78ytube Год назад +1

      My red devil never gets out of the 80c- 85c range. Junction temp. This is with an overclock and undervolt

    • @WaspMedia3D
      @WaspMedia3D Год назад

      Only some of the reference design cards have the issue.

  • @ctz365
    @ctz365 Год назад +1

    Thank you for the testing!

  • @pyroguy828
    @pyroguy828 Год назад +2

    great info thanks for your work!

  • @SP95
    @SP95 Год назад +6

    AMD put all their eggs into traditional rasterized rendering while RTX cards are meant for hybrid rendering, and since Star Citizen does not support hybrid rendering yet there is really no need to compare AMD and Nvidia cards. For now AMD is the true king for Star Citizen both in CPUs and GPUs until that renderer finally receives some modern rendering upgrades.

  • @Tartiflette-py5zh
    @Tartiflette-py5zh Год назад +1

    Good job ! 😉👍

  • @metalikmike1
    @metalikmike1 Год назад +3

    I have a Reference Sapphire 7900XTX and have done every test you have with SC (been playing since 2013) and the highest temps I have seen are 67 degs GPU CUR TEMP and 76 Degs on GPU JUNC TEMP. Max on MSFS2020 in ULTRA everything is 84 degs JUNC TEMP. I guess I am a lucky one. :-)

  • @MK-xc9to
    @MK-xc9to Год назад +2

    Well , you got it wrong , its n o t AMDs design fault , its their suppliers fault . The Vapor Chamber itself is not even faulty , its simpel to less coolant filled in ( Water ) . Its not a design failure or a l l 7900XTX with AMD Design would have the Hotspot Problem . Its tricky , its just enough coolant filled in that on a Test Bench where the GPU is vertical mounted , the Vapor chamber often works as expected , if its horizontal ( which is normally the case ) , the GPU runs into the 110C Temp Limit

  • @MikePhilbin1966
    @MikePhilbin1966 Год назад +1

    Your BMO had 666 in it. Demonic tunage. ;)

  • @apfelimkuchen9551
    @apfelimkuchen9551 Год назад +1

    thank you for you videos! But I must say in this one the background music (more noise) was really hard to ignore or listen to
    :P

    • @tenpoundfortytwo
      @tenpoundfortytwo  Год назад

      Thanks for the feedback, yep I find it tricky to know how loud to put it!

  • @parkerxgps
    @parkerxgps Год назад +2

    I hope the mid range cards arent a mess. looking forward to parting with some money.

  • @b0ne91
    @b0ne91 Год назад +2

    Got the reference card from AMD for 1125€. Had the same issue, my junctions would only hit 110°C with +15% PL. Ended up sending the card back for a refund and got myself the XFX Merc 310. Even at 450W, with 50% fan speed, I don't see above 90°C junction temps in an SFF case.

  • @gambit3904
    @gambit3904 Год назад +3

    In time spy extreme, through all loops, my delta was pretty good, about 10ºc (Junction was at ~88ºc), 2600 mhz and the board power providing standard 347 W. And this represents my experience with most games I tried - except cyberpunk, which brings my delta to a sad 30ºc and a Junction of 100ºc (but then again, the game crashes when using recent updates, settings crash to desktop)
    Not all cases will be the disgrace of immediate 110ºc, some will probably be like mine where you don't have trouble but you're not trully confortable with the future. Even people who got lucky in the silicon lottery will probably look a bit insecure
    I will await AMD's reply to the situation, since I really liked the xtx, but I wish you luck in the exchange for the 4080!!

    • @tenpoundfortytwo
      @tenpoundfortytwo  Год назад +2

      Sounds similar to me. I should try Cyberpunk, that's a good idea! That's a good way to describe it- I'm just not comfortable with the particular card going into the future, seems too close to the limit for me. Hopefully AMD will release a response soon.

  • @WarlockSRB
    @WarlockSRB Год назад +2

    M8, I was the one that suggested you to test out the new RX7000 GPUs in CPU bottleneck situation, I am really sorry that this is happening to you... Hope you get all this sorted out...

    • @tenpoundfortytwo
      @tenpoundfortytwo  Год назад +3

      No worries! Hopefully I'll be able to get a refund! It's a pretty bizarre situation from AMD, hopefully they will get it sorted!

  • @stevenjohns7017
    @stevenjohns7017 Год назад +4

    Warning these cards can reach critical mass faster than reactor 4 Chernobyl. Great video. Thx!

  • @ChadSutton
    @ChadSutton Год назад +1

    I just watched @JayzTwoCents video on the reference cards and it looks like they do this temp thing when mounted horizontally but not vertically. As you suspected it seems to have something to do with the vapor chamber.

    • @The_Opinion_of_Matt
      @The_Opinion_of_Matt Год назад

      Jay had a new video about it yesterday and he talked about one of der8auer's videos disproving the mounting position hypothesis. Here is a link to der8auer's video: ruclips.net/video/26Lxydc-3K8/видео.html

  • @WaspMedia3D
    @WaspMedia3D Год назад +1

    If I ended up with one of those card, I'm not even sure I would send it back - I'd just see it as justification to water cool it. ;-)

  • @Duvoncho
    @Duvoncho Год назад +5

    This is why I always went for Sapphire cards when buying AMD. As much as I'm always rooting for AMD to back-of-the-net every launch... I've been on the merry go round long enough to know to temper my expectations. Now if it was an AIB cooler or a water block then sure, the card will truly flourish I've no no doubt.

    • @tenpoundfortytwo
      @tenpoundfortytwo  Год назад +5

      Yeah a water block might be the best option for me if I can't get a refund!

    • @sandzibar
      @sandzibar Год назад +2

      My amd card is a sapphire 7900 xtx and it still cooks at 110c junction unless you limit it to 2450 MHz

    • @The_Opinion_of_Matt
      @The_Opinion_of_Matt Год назад +1

      @@sandzibar The first drivers for the 7900XT and 7900XTX had high power consumption issues. If you haven't upgraded the drivers I would try that first. If that doesn't work you may want to contact Sapphire.

    • @zengrath
      @zengrath Год назад +3

      I just got the Sapphire reference card for 7900 xtx. Not by choice was just what I found in stock but it's working beautfully and junction temp isn't anything like what others posting so far. (80c is about max that i seen so far)

    • @The_Opinion_of_Matt
      @The_Opinion_of_Matt Год назад +4

      @@zengrath Every time Gamers Nexus does a review and teardown of a Sapphire gpu they have been impressed by the build quality and used it to contrast how other makers "do it wrong". Their reviews are why when I bought my RX6800 I only looked at the Sapphire gpus.

  • @SnoozinFox
    @SnoozinFox Год назад +4

    These cards only get hot when the fans are pointed down. If you vertical mount it, there's no problem. The vapour chamber is defective, check out DerBauer's latest videos :)

    • @michamaverick
      @michamaverick Год назад +2

      this ^^

    • @timp8770
      @timp8770 Год назад +1

      This ^^

    • @velocitymg
      @velocitymg Год назад

      @@timp8770 Astonishing that in this day and age, people don't consider a basic fact of thermodynamics and that is Hot air rises sheesh !!

    • @The_Opinion_of_Matt
      @The_Opinion_of_Matt Год назад +1

      der8auer EN has a video disproving the mounting position hypothesis. JayzTwoCents did a video about der8auer's video yesterday. Here is a link to der8auer's video: ruclips.net/video/26Lxydc-3K8/видео.html

  • @johnoquinn626
    @johnoquinn626 Год назад +2

    MY Red devil 7900xtx
    over clocked 46gpu temp 75c junc temps 2959 MHz fams speed about 2200 speed.. in star citizen... 431watts power draw

  • @nolatsc9797
    @nolatsc9797 Год назад +5

    Picked up a 4090... Really working great. Seen over 440W used, no temp issues. Hope the cooling issue can get fixed on the xtx's, it seems pretty wide spread

    • @njasicko
      @njasicko Год назад +1

      Set a power curve up on that 4090.. I never see over 380w on my 4090 after.

    • @sajithsaji3606
      @sajithsaji3606 Год назад

      @@njasicko bro how to undervolt 4090????

    • @njasicko
      @njasicko Год назад +2

      @@sajithsaji3606 Use MSI Afterburner and set up a custom curve for it. Lots of youtube videos out on how to do it.

    • @Duvoncho
      @Duvoncho Год назад

      @@sajithsaji3606 Aye Afterburner can do it. I use GPU tweak III (Asus) after watching Der8auer's video on the 4090. Still using Afterburner for monitoring but Tweak 3 was so easy to set a % power and fan target and save pre-sets.

    • @generaltortoise7670
      @generaltortoise7670 Год назад

      💰

  • @geerstyresoil3136
    @geerstyresoil3136 Год назад +3

    Have you tried vertical orientation like Der Bauer? Curious if you can get lower temps the same way...

    • @geerstyresoil3136
      @geerstyresoil3136 Год назад

      Also curious about inverted horizontal orientation which Der Bauer didn't test.

    • @lamikal2515
      @lamikal2515 Год назад

      @@geerstyresoil3136 There is no need to test 1 110 156 444 568 different orientations. He already found that vapor chamber design is defective

    • @geerstyresoil3136
      @geerstyresoil3136 Год назад +1

      @@lamikal2515 why do some cards work fine then if vapor chamber is considered defective? many have only 20 degree delta and do not have hotspot throttle issue. Der Bauer suggests it's a manufacturing error (insufficient water) not a design error per se.

    • @tenpoundfortytwo
      @tenpoundfortytwo  Год назад +2

      @geerstyresoil3136 I actually already had it vertical first (easier to swap out GPU's) and then saw the Der Bauer video so tested horizontal! I didn't find much of a difference between the two in my scenario.

  • @The_Opinion_of_Matt
    @The_Opinion_of_Matt Год назад +1

    If you can't get a refund or RMA maybe EK will make a waterblock for the reference models and try put that on and testing.

    • @tenpoundfortytwo
      @tenpoundfortytwo  Год назад +1

      I've just sent it back this morning, so hopefully will have a refund soon!

  • @banaris28
    @banaris28 Год назад +2

    Your card is faulty, you need to RMA it. The delta between junction and card temperature shouldn't be more than 20C

  • @Tainted-Soul
    @Tainted-Soul Год назад +1

    Been Honest I watched the Hardware unboxed review the fact he had problems with drivers / crashes and then the Vulcan testing show the Nvidia was way better .
    So I wish you all the luck in getting a RTS4080 and will see the if they are the same or which one is better for SC. shame that he Vulcan isnt fully out and working to see the difference.

    • @tenpoundfortytwo
      @tenpoundfortytwo  Год назад +1

      Yeah its a shame Vulcan is not ready- it would've been very interesting to test!

  • @Flooberjobby
    @Flooberjobby Год назад +2

    Should try running rage mode. I found Star citizen gives decent FPS increase when using Rage.

  • @mattyb584
    @mattyb584 9 дней назад

    I just got the MSI 7900 xtx a few months ago. I usually have to turn down settings cause it can get well over 90c, only when ray-tracing though. Id really like to find a hotspot temp fix. My 7800x3d can get well over 80c sometimes too but I'm using an air cooler so that's probably why.

  • @CowCatwithafancyHat
    @CowCatwithafancyHat Год назад +1

    I don't understand why this bord is still in your hands!?
    You have 30c between package and hotspot, it is nuts!
    Forget about every other function like undervolting and overclocking, you are working on a broken device therefore,
    return it asap and get the Nitro, Pulse or the Devil.
    I hope you can return it because the recall might take a while to happen.

    • @tenpoundfortytwo
      @tenpoundfortytwo  Год назад +1

      It's on it's way back as we speak- should be getting a refund asap!

  • @discorei8292
    @discorei8292 Год назад +4

    Personally I have never had any luck with AMD graphics drivers. As such I have stuck to NVIDIA, I figured I'd try a 6800xt and I had to re-install the graphics drivers an average of every two weeks. A lot of people I know swear by Radion cards, I just keep getting the bunk ones. I currently own a 4080, and while it's not the monster that the 4090 is I'm happy with it for SC.

    • @Astravall
      @Astravall Год назад +2

      The most important thing to do when switching from Nvidia to AMD is either use DDU to wipe the Nvidia drivers or do a clean Windows install. I had similar problems when i switched from a 1060 to an AMD card. the Nvidia uninstaller left files and traces on the system and caused instabilities (i have a feeling that is deliberate -.- ) ... after DDUing the Nvidia remains and reinstalling the AMD drivers everything was fine.

  • @NVMDSTEvil
    @NVMDSTEvil Год назад +2

    Your card has bad vapor chamber, any delta between GPU and hotspot 20c or more is symptom of the issue.

  • @SpaceShortsYT
    @SpaceShortsYT Год назад +2

    I have a 7900xtx reference unopened in the box right now. I can literally put together my 4k gaming build, but it's on hold as I debate with myself if I want to take it out of the box, and then argue with AMD over the heat (IF I have the problem). The alternative would be to RMA it in the unopened box (thereby at least bypassing the argument with AMD). Of course, then I'd have to buy the 4080 *cough*, or the 4090. I have a 5120x1440 display and I was really hoping to drive it with this card. Out of curiosity, how is yours mounted? I at least have a HYTE Y60 to mount it in, and it seems like the heat issue is "less" often with a vertical mount. As far as overclocking... look for Ancient Gameplays channel as he has an "excellent" video on undervolting / performance. I'm just bummed with how all this worked out.

    • @tenpoundfortytwo
      @tenpoundfortytwo  Год назад +3

      The Ancient Gameplays video was actually my starting point for the custom overclock! I think in your case I would just leave it in the box and not take the risk. Maybe look at a non reference model if you don't want to go Nvidia.

    • @SpaceShortsYT
      @SpaceShortsYT Год назад +2

      @@tenpoundfortytwo I appreciate the advice, and I really think you are right. I've been wringing my hands over it for a few days. I think I'll just get a hold of Digital River and get the RMA started. If not anything, I'll tell them exactly why I am sending it back. If they would have acknowledged it, and perhaps worked with an AIB distributor to create a "process" to fix it, I'd do it, but waiting is the enemy of time right now. So back it goes (lol, I was SO close to 4k), hahahah :)

    • @The_Opinion_of_Matt
      @The_Opinion_of_Matt Год назад

      @@SpaceShortsYT JayzTwoCents did a video about der8auer's video troubleshooting the overheating. der8auer was able to debunk the mounting position hypothesis. His conclusion was that there is something wrong with the vapor chamber on the reference design. One other commenter said they had really good outcome with a Sapphire 7900XTX. Another commenter said they had good luck with a PowerColor Red Devil 7900XTX. You probably couldn't go wrong with a ASUS model either. Anyway, here is a link to der8auer's video: ruclips.net/video/26Lxydc-3K8/видео.html

  • @Vanadium
    @Vanadium Год назад +3

    sadly AMD and ATI had the problem with reference cards way to long. It seems also that not all cards are affected by it and therefore is a problem on the manufacturing side. Meaning that the engineers did anything right.
    I had to many problems with the reference design that I never would by it other then the NV reference.
    Still unsure what card I want to get. Prices for the the RX 7900 XTX is around 1400€ or more for big custom coolers right now. The problem here is that the 4080 is cheaper , even custom designs is like 1333€ and the 4080 should be mostly on the same level as the 7900 xtx.
    Question is how much difference will it make in SC

    • @The_Opinion_of_Matt
      @The_Opinion_of_Matt Год назад

      Probably very little difference in SC right now unless you are playing at 4K or have the volumetric clouds set to the higher settings.

    • @Vanadium
      @Vanadium Год назад +1

      @@The_Opinion_of_Matt yeah I only want to improve 4K performance because my 6800xt can’t get stable 60fps. I also have driver issues and can’t use the recent one. Mine is 8months old because anything else will Crash SC

  • @DennisBLee
    @DennisBLee Год назад +1

    Would you consider getting an AIB model of the XTX?

    • @tenpoundfortytwo
      @tenpoundfortytwo  Год назад +1

      If you found one at a good price then yeah, I think the AIB models would be great option. But as the price goes up then the 4080 founders edition starts to look more appealing in my opinion (review coming today).

  • @LucidStrike
    @LucidStrike Год назад +1

    SOME of the cards have this issue. Mine doesn't have this issue at all, fortunately. But yeah, for whoever does have the issue, it's significant.

    • @tenpoundfortytwo
      @tenpoundfortytwo  Год назад

      Glad to hear yours is OK! What sorts of temps are you getting?

    • @LucidStrike
      @LucidStrike Год назад +1

      @@tenpoundfortytwo It's never even hit 100° junction under stress testing, and the delta hasn't been very extreme.

    • @tenpoundfortytwo
      @tenpoundfortytwo  Год назад

      @@LucidStrike even if you overclock or up the power limit? Sounds like yours is working as it should.

    • @LucidStrike
      @LucidStrike Год назад

      @@tenpoundfortytwo Tbf, I haven't overclocked. I raised the power limit and set the core to 2400 / 2500. Sweet spot for performance-per-watt and still faster than stock.
      If I wanted to straight up overclock, I probably wouldn't have bought a reference card that uses nearly all the power budget at stock.

  • @JC-kaboom
    @JC-kaboom Год назад +1

    By the way… the 4080 will be replaced soon for a super and Ti versions.
    4080 is 10000cores, 4090 is 16000, so the 4080 really should be a 4070.
    4090 is the best option, there will be a titan or Ti with 18000cores and better memory but you are at the risk of overpaid like the 3090ti buyers.

  • @HankBaxter
    @HankBaxter Год назад +1

    I just watched a video from Ancient Gameplays that mentioned people are saying they fixed the issue using a different HDMI cable, believe it or not. Curious to see if it helps with your card... Watch the video and maybe try it out, for science, i guess.

  • @adamu6941
    @adamu6941 Год назад +1

    i just buy a 13700KF with 32GB or DDR5 ram. I have a basical 3060, i just play in 1080P, should this setup will be great for SC ? I hesitate to go to a 3070 ti OC... but for 1080p i'm not sure if its necessary, whats your opinion ?

    • @tenpoundfortytwo
      @tenpoundfortytwo  Год назад

      I would think that the 3060 should be fine for 1080p

    • @adamu6941
      @adamu6941 Год назад +1

      @@tenpoundfortytwo i think too, a TI at least ;) I heard GPU under 3070 could botlleneck with high end CPU, i dont know the reallity.

  • @neonsamurai2575
    @neonsamurai2575 Год назад +1

    Nice Video, i'm thinking about upgrading my 2080ti with a 7900xtx from Gigabyte ( avoiding the 110° risk in getting a bad gpu). Currently running an i9 9900k, curious if i'll get more Performance in Star Citizen with that setup.

    • @tenpoundfortytwo
      @tenpoundfortytwo  Год назад

      I think the 9900k could be a real bottleneck in certain areas of the game (cities etc). What resolution do you play at?

    • @neonsamurai2575
      @neonsamurai2575 Год назад +1

      @@tenpoundfortytwo at the moment at 2k (1440p) resolution.

    • @tenpoundfortytwo
      @tenpoundfortytwo  Год назад

      For 1440p I'd say the 7900xtx is overkill (but obviously would last you a long time into the future and give you the option of 4k down the line). For Star Citizen specifically, you might be better off moving to a new motherboard and cpu. The new x3d chips from amd might be a better use of your money!

  • @xalderin3838
    @xalderin3838 Год назад +1

    I'm wondering what this could look like with liquid cooling. I'm planning on getting a 7900 xtx, but I want to slap a water block on it with at least a 360mm Radiator.

    • @tenpoundfortytwo
      @tenpoundfortytwo  Год назад

      Yeah watercooling seems like it would be a good option for these!

  • @sphaera3809
    @sphaera3809 Год назад +1

    I hope you can get a refund. I got a Gigabyte 4080 OC and no issues, runs cool and quiet and reacts well to a small extra OC. A good improvement over my previous EVGA 3090 Hybrid. I’m looking forward to the new gaming CPUs. I wonder if they will bring enough performance improvement in SC to be worth the full upgrade to AM5.

  • @96kylar
    @96kylar Год назад +1

    Run 400w all day every day and never see over 80. Weird. (Ref card here)

    • @tenpoundfortytwo
      @tenpoundfortytwo  Год назад

      Thanks for the info- I had wondered if all the reference cards struggled at 400w- good to know that they should be able to handle it!

  • @Velthus
    @Velthus Год назад +1

    Will you be doing a review for the new AMD 7950x3d chips that got announced yesterday?

    • @tenpoundfortytwo
      @tenpoundfortytwo  Год назад +1

      I'll be reviewing the 7800x3d- I've been sticking to the 8 core cpus recently. It should give a good idea of how the 7900x3d and 7950x3d perform though.

    • @Velthus
      @Velthus Год назад

      @@tenpoundfortytwo Nice. Looking forward to it!

  • @_Kaurus
    @_Kaurus Год назад

    7000 GPU's thermal throttle quickly as temps get up which go up very fast as power consumption increase. If you could actually cool the silicon effectively (AIB Products) you get decently higher GHz out of the product...It's just unfortunately how skiddish the silicon behaviour is.

  • @iamthesentinel584
    @iamthesentinel584 Год назад +2

    That's too bad that your card has cooling issues mate! Here's to hoping that AMD works it out, and especially that you get your refund!

  • @zengrath
    @zengrath Год назад +1

    I am lucky i guess. my new 7900xtx I been playing latest games maxed out,, ray tracing and all, and i'm only seeing 50-60c and not even 100% utilization as well unless I run like a bunch marking program in most games. EDIT: just booted up timespy benchmark, 65c and 80 junc temp. using saphhire 7900 xtx reference card. Seems ok to me unless this is only something that happens in long term sessions or something. People with this issue, does it happen immediately or over a long session? I haven't played any games for super long with this new PC just yet.

    • @tenpoundfortytwo
      @tenpoundfortytwo  Год назад

      In theory it should happen pretty quickly if your card is affected. Have you tried increasing the power slider? In theory the card should still be able to keep temps under control, so shouldn't struggle at 400w- but mine can't handle the extra power.

    • @zengrath
      @zengrath Год назад +2

      @@tenpoundfortytwo No I haven't touched OC at all manually on the GPU. I see absolutely no reason to. Every game I've through at on max settings and even raytracing is running like a dream. Even Gothem Knights that everyone says runs like crap seems to have no issues with my card, although it's not like 120fps like many of other games it's still rock solid usually 90+ fps. Spider-man remastered for example has been pretty much locked at 120fps ultra wide 1440p max setting and raytracing and looks incredible. I booted up games lke death stranding. A plague tale, and a few others and so far it's running great. I usually don't experiment with OC'ing until i've had it for a little while. I only turned on the AMD's version of XMP profiles in bios and set auto over clocking for now with Asus's AI over clocking which I am not sure over clocks my GPU or not, I don't think it does. I have it on an AM5 system with an 7700x cpu on this pc i just built. Freaking insane so far. my CPU utilization been around like 2-3% in games, just silly. my GPU in many games around 60% utilization which at first had me worried it was bottle necking but then realized it's just hitting vysnc 120fps limit or something as some games will push it to 100% as well as benchmarking programs. I haven't actually tried seeing how high frames will go if i turn vsync off yet, lol. My monitor is 175 hz.

  • @fatherrussell5303
    @fatherrussell5303 Год назад +2

    Amazing video, and kind of a lifesaver. I’ll wait until AMD fixes it

    • @tenpoundfortytwo
      @tenpoundfortytwo  Год назад +2

      Yep I think waiting on some communication from AMD is a good shout.

  • @skyracerxp
    @skyracerxp Год назад +2

    I hope you can get your hands on a 4080.

    • @tenpoundfortytwo
      @tenpoundfortytwo  Год назад +2

      Me too, would be great to test it head to head with the 7900 xtx!

  • @martinfodor2848
    @martinfodor2848 Год назад +1

    Change this GPU pls! Memory junction above 90% it’s crazy. I’ve a 4090 and never get over 80c in junction. Can’t believe the behavior of this card after so many adjustment even under volting. AMD must fix it soon.. I wonder what’s the memory junction temp of an XTX AIB

  • @generaltortoise7670
    @generaltortoise7670 Год назад +1

    will the hellhound run cooleer

  • @SpaceJordin
    @SpaceJordin Год назад +3

    Could you please put more info in your FPS charts? What variable is being tested, resolution, key game settings etc. when I’m scrolling back through your video it’s hard to work out what each chart is for 😊

    • @tenpoundfortytwo
      @tenpoundfortytwo  Год назад +2

      Yeah that's a good request, I'll try to pop some more details in the charts in the future!

  • @Yukanojo
    @Yukanojo Год назад +1

    AMD reference card with hardware and software issues? I'm not surprised. I've used AMD GPUs since 2001.. this seems to be a common thread with them. I want to love AMD GPUs so much but they keep chasing me back to Nvidia.

  • @Bartgast
    @Bartgast Год назад +1

    Sorry had to skip through the video a bit. But whats your advice on hardware right now? Like wait for the 7xxxx3D CPU and go nvidia card?

    • @tenpoundfortytwo
      @tenpoundfortytwo  Год назад +1

      Pretty much! Or get a non reference model of these amd cards.

  • @RicoZaid_
    @RicoZaid_ Год назад +1

    What Power Supply are you running??

    • @tenpoundfortytwo
      @tenpoundfortytwo  Год назад

      Some corsair 750 model, can't remember which without cracking open the case!

    • @RicoZaid_
      @RicoZaid_ Год назад +1

      @@tenpoundfortytwo awesome, im running 750 watt too

  • @MrBoombast64
    @MrBoombast64 Год назад +1

    When is 3.18 out?

    • @tenpoundfortytwo
      @tenpoundfortytwo  Год назад +1

      Tricky to know exactly, but hopefully in January, not impossible that it ends up being Feb!

  • @christopher-yn8lk
    @christopher-yn8lk Год назад +1

    Not to be rude but you should check out "Ancient Gameplays" AMD over clocking videos. Just gonna leave it at that.

    • @tenpoundfortytwo
      @tenpoundfortytwo  Год назад

      I did, that was the starting point for my overclock!

    • @christopher-yn8lk
      @christopher-yn8lk Год назад +1

      @@tenpoundfortytwo He's really good with the AMD Adrenalin software. It's sad that these new cards don't really respond well to overclocking given what they cost.
      I recently built my first PC with the intent of playing Star Citizen. 5800X3D, 32 gb ram, Samsung 980 pro NVME and a Radeon 6700XT. I missed the holiday sales of the Radeon 6800Xt so the 6700 xt will do for now. Was looking at these new AMD cards but I think I will hold off for now until they can get the heating issues figured out. Thanks for the Star Citizen content that you make.

    • @tenpoundfortytwo
      @tenpoundfortytwo  Год назад

      @@christopher-yn8lk Looks like a great build for SC! Yeah I need to have a proper look at his stuff- he seemed to really know what he was talking about!

  • @DeepStone-6
    @DeepStone-6 Год назад +2

    Classic hot AMD reference cards, my 7900XTX Red Devil is usually around 70-74C

  • @dkphantomdk
    @dkphantomdk Год назад +1

    Iam going to return with a comment on this video rahter than the "other one" with knowledge. I compared my performance side by side in game with a friend.
    I got a R9 5950X, Red Devil RX7900XTX, 64GB 3600Mhz Mem, WD SN850X 2TB nvme.
    Friend R9 5900X, Asus TUF 4090OC, 32GB 3600Mhz, Samsung 980 nvme
    We both have same motherboards. So, main diffrence is the RX7900XTX OC vs 4090 OC
    we where in Orison, Space, a bunker mission, Area18,
    He plays at res 3440x1440p I play at 2560x1440p
    Both on MAX setting on all even clouds.
    what we found was that I average 10fps more all places.
    also, we found that both of our cpu´s where on high usage, and the gpu´s was sometimes more or less idling in places like Orison.
    - yet I did some foolish "nowhere in space" test, searching for maximum frames pr sec ( still all settings on max ) I managed to spot 290FPS - Iam not even kidding.
    But, I will stil have to travel to orison to compare the rx6800xt with the rx7900xtx on same location on "various" clouds settings !
    - Ill respond to this video once Ive done that - ok ?
    But I can tell you that high temps are NOT a problem for the Powercolor Red Devil RX7900XTX, - I recommend that one.
    And I also dont think you will get any benefit from the 4080 over the 7900xtx due to my friends and mine result !

  • @caldeio
    @caldeio Год назад +1

    That fan is like 40% max eh?
    You should mount your gpu vertical (turn your case). See if temps change.
    4080 needs 3.0 capable PSU btw. Don't burn your gpu with an adapter.

    • @lamikal2515
      @lamikal2515 Год назад +4

      It probably wont change anything. DerBauer did an investigation and found the vapor chamber they use is critically flawed.

    • @Vanadium
      @Vanadium Год назад +2

      @@lamikal2515 it isnt that critical because its a manufacturing defect and not an engineering one. Super bad nonetheless.

    • @caldeio
      @caldeio Год назад +1

      @@lamikal2515 Well in the video before that. He found the position affected the cooling. Which lead him to the vapor tear down.
      I'm curious for my own sake. I plan on buying one. I'll be using a water block but it's still interesting if it effects temps/performance.

    • @The_Opinion_of_Matt
      @The_Opinion_of_Matt Год назад

      @@caldeio Gamers Nexus found that the reason for the melted power cables on the RTX4000 series had nothing to do with the cable and was actually user error. The cable wasn't being pushed all the way into the connector on the graphics cards. Now it is actually recommended to push the cable into the GPU before installing the GPU into the motherboard. I think the Gamers Nexus video was from early December or sometime in November.

    • @lamikal2515
      @lamikal2515 Год назад +1

      @@The_Opinion_of_Matt For me, the biggest flaw of the 12VHPWR connector is the lack of feedback regarding it's plugging :
      Firstly, you need far more force than you would consider adequate to plug it in.
      Secondly, when it's plugged, the sound feedback is should be way louder. When you plug a PCI-E plug to your GPU, it makes a very noticeable click, assuring the user that the cable is fully secured.

  • @CHAstaroth
    @CHAstaroth Год назад

    I would buy a amd card but it crashes very often in star citizen… 😢

  • @nibbana3054
    @nibbana3054 Год назад +1

    There are some interesting news about the Hotspot Desaster of the XTX Cards ... if you are interested, check out the Video:
    ruclips.net/video/26Lxydc-3K8/видео.html
    From Roman "der8auer" Hartung about the Hotspot Issues. I bet you can claim AMD and get a refund for sure.
    The XTX Cards are great, but the Hotspot Problem kills it ... not acceptable in my opinion.
    Or you can get a waterblock for sure, solves the issue for sure. Anyway this is a nogo for Amd to release Cards with this major problem

    • @tenpoundfortytwo
      @tenpoundfortytwo  Год назад

      Mine is getting picked up tomorrow so hopefully will be refunded within the next week or so!

  • @XxXnonameAsDXxX
    @XxXnonameAsDXxX Год назад +1

    This 7900xtx is a huge flop. Bad cooling, low oc potential, both should be the good points of AMD. Maybe we should try the AIB models but I'm waiting for the next gen. I have plenty of time.

  • @slyblood85
    @slyblood85 Год назад +1

    heard new driver fixes the problem?

    • @tenpoundfortytwo
      @tenpoundfortytwo  Год назад

      This is on the latest drivers unfortunately!

    • @slyblood85
      @slyblood85 Год назад +1

      @@tenpoundfortytwo it seems Nvidia just sharted all over AMD with that 4070ti potentially anyway lol

  • @dimakrutoj93
    @dimakrutoj93 Год назад +1

    My rx 7900 xtx red devil have coldplate dont vapor chamber. Gpu 65 degrees and Hotspot 100 degress wtf ? Never more amd

  • @jacquesfvermeulen
    @jacquesfvermeulen Год назад +1

    I'll stick with my 3080 Ultra for a while. New GPUs are way overpriced.

  • @merkedgg6322
    @merkedgg6322 2 месяца назад

    Mines does 550 watts at 80c hotspot try a repaste

  • @koksikxxxx
    @koksikxxxx Год назад +1

    I have Gigabyte aorus Elite 7900xtx hotspot 88c

  • @JC-kaboom
    @JC-kaboom Год назад +1

    Pay $1000 for a overheating card or pay $1600 for something that works and is the most powerful card available.
    Return that crap and get a 4090.

    • @tenpoundfortytwo
      @tenpoundfortytwo  Год назад +1

      A 4090 is out of my price range! But if I can swap to the 4080 for science, I'll do that!

    • @pyziko13
      @pyziko13 Год назад

      @@tenpoundfortytwo same, 4090 is too expensive. 7900xtx should be fixed

  • @kon1351
    @kon1351 Год назад +1

    Red Devil and sapphire are best at AMD .

  • @zdlanedenny
    @zdlanedenny Год назад

    Don't buy the highest-end models of GPU,and waste money anyway before the next launch - got it.

  • @Austintatious_One
    @Austintatious_One Год назад +1

    Good god... You have definitely got one of the bad cards.. 🤦‍♂️
    30% are duds apparently.. Send for an exchange.. Or turn your computer on its side or upside down before you turn it on.. 👌

  • @andreimarius9695
    @andreimarius9695 Год назад +1

    I hope you could get this card refunded . I'm also curious for 4080, but for your buck , I really hope you the best !!

  • @zenubi4921
    @zenubi4921 Год назад +1

    If I have learnt anything over the last 20 years of using computers it is that you can trust a horse, you can trust a dog but you can NEVER trust AMD (or a guitarist).

    • @lamikal2515
      @lamikal2515 Год назад +2

      Let's say that they have a strong tendency to shoot themselves in the foot.

    • @tenpoundfortytwo
      @tenpoundfortytwo  Год назад +1

      They seem to have got the CPU side of the business working well! But yeah, this is not a good look at all!

  • @JackRoyL
    @JackRoyL Год назад

    oh yeah, huang is the best

  • @sjoervanderploeg4340
    @sjoervanderploeg4340 Год назад +1

    I can spoil you this already, a bigger fatter GPU is not going to solve the performance issues we all have with Star Citizen.

    • @sjoervanderploeg4340
      @sjoervanderploeg4340 Год назад +2

      As an example: I have a 3080 and had a 3060 before it, the rest of my PC has not changed and performance in Star Citizen is exactly the same between the two GPU's.

    • @tenpoundfortytwo
      @tenpoundfortytwo  Год назад +1

      Depends on resolution, at 4k every little helps!

  • @serrethindustries9468
    @serrethindustries9468 Год назад +1

    As an AMD fanboy, this is depressing. They basically lied and failed to deliver on their claims. Once again Nvidia goes unchecked and value plummets.

    • @tenpoundfortytwo
      @tenpoundfortytwo  Год назад

      Yep it's really disappointing. They had such a great opportunity to grab market share this gen but this is really going to hurt them.

  • @michaelgeller294
    @michaelgeller294 Год назад

    um 1 you need to manually adjust fans for overclocking they have zero rpm on on default which results in high temps it is not running at 100 percent that would change your temps also may want to check thermal pads and thermal paste application you are literally at a 6900xt overclock performance you really need to manually adjust the fans hate to say it but your overclocking that requires fans at around 80 percent by 60 c and 100 percent by 70 c you should never pass 70 c