The Real Threat to American Democracy | NYT Opinion
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- Опубликовано: 20 сен 2022
- For the past two years, Americans have been overwhelmed by a deluge of headlines suggesting democracy in the United States is under threat: Voter suppression. A shortage of drop boxes. Election deniers seeking key state offices. It can be difficult to gauge what stories suggest a truly terrifying threat to democracy, and which are simply disheartening or even petty. The Opinion Video film above aims to unpack one of the most dire threats to democracy, which includes a sophisticated plot to control not only who can vote, but which votes get counted.
One thing is certain: The 2020 race was not stolen. But Mr. Trump and his Republican enablers have been working to rig future elections to their advantage. (Of course it’s the people shrieking most loudly about fraud that you really need to watch.) The former president has convinced his followers that the electoral system has been so corrupted that the only way to save America is for MAGA patriots to take over the system to ensure that the “right” candidates win going forward. His allies have been busy engineering such a legal takeover, and key pieces of the plan are already in place.
In this short film, we shine a light on those machinations, so that those who care about democracy can act to stop them.
For our Democracy to survive, we need to agree on a shared reality and for the losers - that is those who lose in honest and fair elections - to accept defeat.
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Hey everyone I’m Johnny, one of the producers of this Opinion Video. I’ve been hearing about the potential collapse of American democracy but I’ve always been really unsatisfied with the explanations of what’s actually happening. It’s a discourse that’s become fully politicized to the point where I didn’t really know what to believe. That’s why I teamed up with The New York Times editorial board member Michelle Cottle to get to the bottom of what’s really threatening American democracy and how scared we should really be. Working with Michelle, I started to see a different threat to democracy taking shape, one that goes beyond voter suppression and to the heart of our electoral system. I'd love to know what you think about our film, and if, like me, you're seeing the danger to our democracy in a whole new light.
Keep up the good work john
Great video!
So what are the roadblocks to federal standards for voting? And maybe federal criminal penalties for voting officials who act in bad faith?
I knew it was bad, but this is utterly terrifying. Can America recover from this?
lol
That is why voting workers etc are not "elected" or can "apply" but are randomly drawn like for jury duty. This way nobody can game the system. We in Germany learned that lesson already
Unfortunately we haven't had a dictator take over yet, so we haven't learned yet. And for some reason we didn't learn from watching what happened to your country. Quite sad, really.
@@papagrantits well it’s hard to learn when the information you get is false half the time and you have shows with “political entertainment” Free speech is a double edged sword
America is TERRIBLE at learning lessons from history, whether at home or from abroad. Look at Afghanistan. We learned NOTHING from Vietnam. And surely we will learn nothing from Afghanistan either.
@@z4ck13 trust me dude, the true facts are out there. It's not about the amoounts of misinformation, it's about the blatant ignorance towards the truth. What it truly boils down to is the lack of access to good education, which has caused a lack of critical thinking amongst some of the most naive and succeptable of our society.
What's very crazy to me as german is that the US have voting machines. I'm in favor of digitalization of goverment operations, but i find the paper ballot system we have much better, because the voting workers do have an better eye on the Ballots, which can be in favor miscounted by some bad workers.
I do think that you also have a 4 eyes principle, but to me voting machines are a bit creepy.
1) Voting day should be a 2 day holiday that we get off work for that way there is ample time
2) Voter ID is required. Only legal citizens should be allowed to influence elections.
3) Independent commissions to oversee collection, processing and filing of votes.
Great points, I am 50/50 on another thought, being at a certain age citizens are required to get id, reasons for being everyone has an id (this would be free or a small fee for the creation of the id itself). Main reason I'm against this is the potential for bad actors with a nationalized system like that, do you have any thoughts on the matter?
@@LegendaryApexofDestruction its very simple. An ID ensures your a legal citizen. And only legal citizens should be able to vote an influence policies and elections because they are ACTUAL citizens
I am 5 minutes into the video and don't know to what length this will be discussed, but the fact that there are people in your country that are "surprised" or find it "racist" that you have to show ID when voting is beyond me. Everyone has to show it here (NL) not having one is not an option because it is literally illegal not to carry ID in public.
The funny part is believing the U.S. is NOT a British colony beyond 1789.
The talking heads on tv said its racist, so *obviously* it's racist.
Yeah, in Ukraine you can get your ballot only after you show your ID. It prevents election fraud (if id is not required to vote, you can vote several times)
Easier to rig the elections if no ID required
EXACTLY.
It's utterly infantilizing & insulting, but as ALWAYS, cloaked in phony virtue.
It is in fact not racist to require ID to vote
It is to minorities because barriers are in place.
@@lindaflesch7303 which barriers are in place to prevent minorities from obtaining a state issued ID? And how many minorities don't have a state issued ID currently?
@@lindaflesch7303 Barriers need to be in place to prevent the end of the world. Barriers are not racist.
Evidence? I call out Hitchen's Razor.
@@lindaflesch7303 Barriers? ID is only a barrier to, as they say newcomers. There's newcomers that were processed at entry points and then the ones that didn't.
The irony of the increased requirements to vote, but lack of requirements to run for office..
Remind me again just how long Hilary and the DNC insisted on the Russian Collusion hoax again? That Trump stole the election? And launch a 4 year baseless FBI investigation that cost taxpayers millions....oh and Facebook's recent admission that the FBI approached them about repressing Hunter Biden's laptop story, after which polls showed 13% of Biden voters would have voted differently had they been exposed to Biden's corruption scandal. I mean, the concerted effort from all channels of communication, Social Media, Traditional Media, Hollywood, and Academia, for 4 years preaching "orange man bad" and censoring conservatives...this is willful blindness at this point.
there is one requirement - a candidate must have the most votes to be elected.
...your vote is extremely important
I'm Stephen from Missouri and you
@@thrisbt1 except where republicans who believe the big lie, are in charge of what votes are certified .
Or buy a Gun.
“America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we lose our freedoms it will be because we have destroyed ourselves from within.”
-Abraham Lincoln.
“A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself within”
- Will Durant
Yes, and the attacks on 1A and 2A alongside with attacks on morals culture and traditions is the beginning.
Quoting a man who used violence to suppress people.
Political Parties will, destroy America. - George Washington
just like the romans
This will probably get buried in a mountain of other comments, but it's important to list some facts that often don't get mentioned.
1. All voters in the United States who vote in person, either before or on election day, musr show a form of ID in order to receive a ballot. Not every U.S. citizen has a national identity card like in some other countries, but they still do have to show their driver's license, passport, etc.
2. All absentee voters must have already registered to vote or fill out a request form, both of which require ID. Once the ballot is sent to the county board of elections, they must verify the signature before tabulating the ballot.
3. Poll workers must work in bi-partisan teams of two.
4. Members of one political party cannot have a majority on a county or state board of elections.
5. In every swing state, the secretary of state has promised to accept the results of the election in their state, no matter who wins.
I feel this video is misleading and only generating fear, clicks, and views. It does NOT encourage people to vote or to apply to be poll workers, and leaves out many important laws in our electoral systems that ensure the integrity of our elections.
In summary: If you're an American citizen reading this, be reassured in the integrity of our electoral process. Regardless of whatever a particular candidate believes, the 2024 election results WILL be accepted, no matter who wins, and an election cannot be "stolen".
And if you're the New York Times, this video isn't helping anyone but you in terms of RUclips analytics and revenue.
Fair points, but there is certainly a far right political army brewing that is ideologically adamant and whose plan is to literally change our laws… look at Project 2025. Plus, many of our previous laws have very easily been made more subjective through manipulation and persuasion.
As an independent voter, I found this video to be informative. One, it reminds the public just how pernicious Trump's attempts to overturn the 2020 election were. No matter which side of the political aisle one stands, conversations like his one with Raffensperger (18:23) should greatly concern us all...he blatantly tried to overturn election results. Then he spun a web of lies (lies he has been unable to prove in conservative courts or vote recounts), gets his followers all riled up, and incredibly a majority of Republicans still believe his lies about the illegitimacy of the 2020 election.
And that matters, because Trump's sheep that try to fill local election ranks could poison our election process in ways we can't fully foresee at the moment. What happens when a future Raffensperger situation takes place, but now there is an entire sheep framework at state level that just takes the knee before Trump and doesn't certify the election? Hopefully this MAGA madness ends with Trump (I welcome the return of sane GOP leadership), but it's important to raise awareness of it.
Finally, thank you for your bullet points. May you provide your sources for points 3 and 4? I did a bit of googling but only found variance in how states conduct local elections. Your 5th point I feel is meaningless...they can talk integrity all day today, and then bow & scrape before Trump on election day.
Crumbs. hope this gets more upvotes for visibility
I completely agree with you. This video is Dem biased.....why am I surprised ?
I am an election judge and this statement simply is not true:
"All voters in the United States who vote in person, either before or after election day, musr show a form of ID in order to receive a ballot."
I will never understand not wanting Voter ID laws. All of the EU requires you to show a valid ID card if you want to vote, as they should. Saying that these laws are racist are just plain stupid. Is it also racist to ask for your drivers license when you are driving?
Great video, sorry for the rant!
Unfortunately it is being pushed that way. That if you are a minority and get pulled over for speeding, its just because you are a minority and not because you were breaking the law, and then being asked for your ID means you are a racist officer.
It’s sad that the strategy is to break the system down instead of trying to pass good policy and winning by governing the best.
Fptp means you will always end up with only 2 parties, with each side only voting against who they don't want to win. In such conditions those parties aren't incentivised to govern well, or based on what the average person wants to happen. And they aren't punished for governing badly. Ranked choice voting is the only way out of the swamp.
Welcome to america! We don't get anything done, unless we are dropping bombs.
this startegy happens because "trump republicans", or at least the ones leading these movements, know that they are in fact the minority. times are changing. so as they can't win democraticaly, it comes to this.
Is this the same when Democrats can only try to get re-elected by saying how bad Republicans are, instead of running on all the good they’ve done? The two party system is a cancer that’s getting worse. Neither republicans or democrats are willing to let a libertarian into the debates because they’d make too much sense. The power struggle between the R’s and D’s is the biggest polarizing threat to ‘democracy’
Exactly
Fear mongering much, we went from explaining a plan, to a hypothetical scenario blow out of proportion.
17:00 On trust and good faith? That's how you want to run the most powerful country in the world? Like you can't drive w/out an ID, nor board a plane, stay in a hotel, etc. but you should be able to exercise your right to vote that affects budgets, foreign policy, etc. without any proof that you are in fact eligible to do so? What a pile of garbage.
Agreed. Isn't it ironic that a bunch of illegal immigrants are coming in and Democrats want to remove that protection? Something doesn't add up.
Amen, a big, steaming pile of garbage!
The biggest threat by far is the lack of campaign financing limitations and lobbying, which effectively turn everything into legalized corruption. Second place is taken by gerrymandering and arbitrary district lines. Third is voter suppression
@@MathGPT wouldn't they just employ aides and advisors to help them? the same way a decision maker makes any decision on a complex subject? bring in a subject matter expert?
@@MathGPT Part 2 to this video here: "Republicans War on Voting" by "Some More News". And all GOP-Videos too, i guess. I mean the GOP is the GOP, yeah.
Nailed it !!
Fourth is taking measures against measures that prevent illegals to vote
Add to that the silly électorat college and you have a full cercle for lack of democracy.
This is what happens when the population is as poorly educated as the average US citizen is. Number one demand for a functioning democracy: Well educated population. Also, requirement number two: No private money in the political system, that's called corruption.
hear hear
The interesting thing is I’m surprised at how many supposedly educated people have fallen for trumpism. Some of these people aren’t dumb. They have just twisted their brains in to justifying their position. Some of them in their own self interest and some against it. Makes me want to bang my head against a wall.
Well the American population has dumb down for decades.
@@stantonriley6858 I think that the Dunning-Kruger effect has been weaponized in a way. If an intelligent thoughtful person doesn’t have a full understanding of a complex issue they will say “I don’t know enough about that to have an opinion,”
Someone who is less intelligent can be fed a simplified version of a complex issue and then form an opinion. They are more than happy to share that opinion because it makes them feel intelligent. What we are left with is many shallow opinions. The internet amplifies this because you have unlimited access to simplified explanations of complex issues.
@@MattnUska There is nothing complex about this issue. It may be a little hidden to those who don't pay attention, but there is nothing complicated here.
I really dislike all these people saying that requiring an ID to vote is racist, and then only come up with racist reasons as to why they believe that way.
That was barely discussed in this video but...ok. I see what you are doing.
Based.
@@enriquehernandez650it is mentioned briefly. It is odd to me that we think that. Definitely not one to have laws that suppress votes, but we should require some form of ID to vote.
@@cjohnconYou know what would be more effective: to lock up everybody involved in fake electors schemes. How about that? What about conceeding election that you lost? I see what you are also doing.
It is about intent. Copied from a southern strategy (look up lee Atwater 1981) in the US from Nixon, and the original MAGA Reagan. voter ID laws and other voting restrictions aren’t really about combating voter fraud (an extremely rare phenomenon), but rather about making it harder for Democratic constituencies - mainly, black and brown voters - to vote. It is not a tool by itself as mentioned in the start it is coupled with many other things. The ultimate impact of the new voting restrictions, particularly voter ID, may be small. But the long history from the legacy of Jim Crow, coupled with some Republicans actually flat out admitting they wouldn't care about voter fraud if it didn't negatively affect black and brown votes, is enough to dislike these laws no matter how little they change the electorate.
81 million? Really you fools believe that?!? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Decent people would never have voted for Trump, who behaves so weak, and despicably that he actually lowered himself to mock a disabled person!
They are counting children under 18. Shows how they are arguing in bad faith.
This is terrifying, and it also is still completely avoidable. The Australian system has an independent statuatory authority that oversees electoral rolls, and elections at the local, state and federal level. The Australian Electoral Commission in my opinion is the single most important institution that ensures there is trust in the process at every level. Ohhh, and we vote on a Saturday morning and everyone has a barbecue… it’s called a Democracy Sausage and it’s awesome…
i don't see how it's terrifying at all. people want real elections in a real country. not whatever candidate corps like getting billions and massive free positive media coverage, while anyone they dont like getting nothing and getting huge amounts of negative press. it's just fear mongering, and no one would be concerned about election integrity if not for how much of a joke the current fake system is.
They also have a great social media manager.
Trouble is maga Republicans are more than happy for America to cease being a democracy as long as they're the ones in charge.
In fact, give it a minute and I'm pretty sure a trumper will hop on here and declare that America isn't a democracy, it's a Republic, completely ignoring the fact that a Republic is a type of democracy and that's why every registered citizen here gets a vote.
@@jackyshen3795 that is VERY true
How do they ensure that those independent authority is actually independent?
Joseph Stalin observed, "Those who count the ballots are more important than those who cast the ballots."
Like the hanging chad’s in the 2000 elections. The democrats almost pulled it off.
The exact quote, "“it’s not the people who vote that count, it’s the people who count the votes.”
Stalin told the truth about this issue.
@@kctaz6189 Thank you for the exact quote.
Naive to think that this does not happen on both sides.
If you realized we don't have a democracy, that would be a good start. Also, voting "regulation" isn't the same as voting "suppression." That's like saying that "driving laws" are "driving suppression".
Well said, Christian!
What is wrong with checking voters IDs at ballot? Voting has consequences for everyone and not a frivolous matter. If you are who you are then you should not have anything to worry about when asked for your ID.
Unfortunately the argument democrats often use against voter ID is that minorities can’t get ID’s as easily as whites.
There is nothing wrong with it....but the gop is using it because they believe it will result in less democratic votes. It would be like if the democrats tried to make it that you had to have a college degree to vote.. that would result in a lot less Republicans being able to vote.
It is not only about voter ID. It is about election deniers controlling every step of the certification process and calling into question our legitimate Democrat votes based on their personal, biased notion that there was a fraud. Te video explains a much broader strategy to take control of the state by controlling the voting process.
@@juanvelez3261 you do know Democrats also deny election results all the time right? At the democratic party candidate for governor of Georgia in 2018 refused to concede the election or acknowledge she lost until four years later. And that’s not all, every Democrat candidate for president of the United States that has lost a presidential election since 1968 with exceptions of Walter, Mondale and Jimmy Carter. All claimed they were elections were stolen through fraud, or other nefarious means. Why is it a problem when Republicans do it, but when Democrats do it nobody cares?
It’s a sloppier slope. In most data it’s shown to not so much, but cause more issues with people who got stuck in a process where they can’t get an ID for whatever reason, but then you have people with takes like this who think it helps with voter fraud which is weird since most voter fraud they caught in the past 8 years were republicans but they also caught them so how?
I am sorry, but in Holland we dont have drop boxes, ID is mandatory when voting and there are no snacks available when i stand in line.
I'm fine with IDs as long as they're distributed for free to citizens on their 18th birthday no paperwork required.
Snacks are fine if you are standing in line multiple hours to vote.
@@thewaffle003 They are not free here, about 100 dollar
@@davidquak4398 In America they should be free.
@@thewaffle003 If no paperwork is required, then the IDs are quite useless, aren't they?
I have lived on Florida all my 56 years. The only time I have had a difficulty was when I forgot my drivers license. I was glad I was turned down and happily went back home a got it.
Terrifying but brilliant reporting and commentary! Thank you and please keep spreading the word our country is counting on you! You both are true patriots!💪💙
Everything i’ve learnt from watching multiple Johnny’s videos is that if you want your evil plan to succeed in the US, all you need to do is make it boring 😂😂😂
True. That's how the republican plan went with the judicial branch. We need some more schoolhouse rock to jazz this up, so people will pay attention. ✌️😎
"Apple could put the entire text of Mein Kampf inside the iTunes user agreement and you just go agree" John Oliver
Most dont even know: The USA has a Stunted Political Spectrum. Second-Thought literally has a video named so.
@@slevinchannel7589 Second Thought creates excellent informative content. ✌️😎🍀
@@erinmcdonald7781 Exactly. What about
Some-More-News though? He has a whole channel about listing Issues and adressing them.
Even tho I'm not from the states, this is genuinely scary to see, and not only it's a movement against democracy, it's more of the fact that it is happening on the most powerful country of the world
Dont worry China will be the most powerful soon
And the left is who is causing it haha
A civil war in America would be cool
I’m American I live in NY and the thing about American politics is you can live in a BLUE or RED state.
BLUE=Democrat
RED=Republican
I am what Biden calls a “threat to democracy” and I really don’t understand how you can lump people like that.
Does it make me a bad person or a threat to democracy because I want a real southern boarder, I do not want the government to take our guns away? I love immigrants and immigration it gives me great pride that USA is their choice destination and even if it’s not how many other countries have a big as a problem as our immigration?
Other countries around the world have the right to enforce their boarder but why is it called racist if Americans want to enforce our illegal crossing? I personally find liberals, not democrats are toxic! They want you to fight for the 900 genders and push this agenda of America is bad and needs to atone for our sins.
Liberals get mad when you say your a proud American or fly an American flag
@@danieljusino1391 The problem Daniel is you believe that all Democrats really are for open borders just because some far lefty lunatics said it or because AOC wants more immigrants in.
The right-wing media lead you to believe that the Democrats support open borders when that’s not the case.
Obama deported a record number of illegal immigrants.
JB still deports illegal immigrants right now!
Trump Deportation laws still till this moment.
The vast majority of Republicans actually believe that Democrats are defunding the police.
Name on place where that happened.
Do you know that a Texas judge just ruled to let felons buy guns?!
So much for the party of law and order.
Can you imagine the “outrage” if a Democrat state did this?
I don’t have a problem with responsible gun owners, But why would anybody need a machine gun or an ar-15, a Glock is enough!
The Republicans are the ones standing against any gun reform, They’re the ones who want guns in the hands of criminals and mentally ill.
And they are the ones believing in election fraud without any evidence!
WHAT?! In USA you can vote without document that identifies your personality and citizenship? Seriously?? That sounds crazy. In my country you have to show your passport to vote, it's basic citizen's identification document. Everybody have it, you get it for no money as soon as you turn 14. How is it possible that people vote without it? What stops them from voting several times in different places if they don't show their identification document?
American democracy is a joke. Can't issue ID's. Can't count votes. Can't recruit impartial commissions to run the election in each county.
Third world countries are better organized than the leader of the free world.
first, you can't vote multiple times for one person, because you still have to go there and say "hey, i am Jason Miller, i would like to vote" and then they look if a Jason Miller is in their list of voters in the district and if so, they cross him out, so he can't come twice. Secondly, in contrast to most other countries, many americans do not have any form of ID or Passport. For an official ID you often need to have an adress, so live in a house of Apartment, unfortunatly many people live on th street or in trailer parks, so they actually have no way of getting an ID. I recommend to read the Wikipedia article about voter identification in the US.
@@dartharagon9129 thanx, it is interesting. It still looks strange and unsafe to me, but maybe it`s just because I don`t know much about it.
@@dartharagon9129 btw, why then can`t he vote twice, naming himself with different names? If they dob`t check ID.
@@utube1255 Well, that would be possible, let's say he votes as himself and then returns and votes for Tom Jones, that would work until the real Tom Jones shows up and wants to vote. If the real Tom Jones can prove that he is Tom Jones, the police will take over and look for the fake voter, and if he is found (quite likely, since there are cameras and not mich time has passed), he can get up to 5 Years in Jail. This is the reason that the system might seem unsafe at first, but studies have shown it actually is not. Nobody risks a high probability to get jailed for years just to cast one more vote. That's like robbing a bank just to get the money in the bank directors purse.
A ton of things require ID…. requiring someone to prove their identity to vote does not make the process more difficult. Requiring people to register doesn’t make it harder. Purging the rolls is a must, people who die or move away shouldn’t be mail ballots, I’d think that’s just common sense.
Pretty much every democratic country on the planet requires ID to vote. The democrats fight it because they want illegal votes.
For real.
However millions of Americans have been born without a birth certificate, especially older, poorer Americans who didn't have a hospitalized birth. Millions of Black Americans were denied hospital care for many decades. Birth certificates are also a fairly recent thing to have to have to get an ID.
Purging polls in the way that it has been going on lately has been destructive more than constructive, however.
@@dahliafully true, but you can’t work in the US without ID, usually a social security card. Since those aren’t hard to get, just use that.
This is so sad. I used to be a committee person in Philly, which required me to work my local precinct voting location. We had two Democrats and two Republicans who were committee people and we worked outside the location observing and offering campaign literature and assistance to any voter who needed it. Inside, we had 4 lovely non-partisan workers who ran the actual voting process. I can remember many of them working there all the way back when I was in pre-school and would go with my mom to vote. Its a tedious 13 hour day but we all showed up for the elections twice a year and were proud to participate in the process. At the end of the night, they print 3 copies of the results. The Republican committee people take their copy back to their Ward Leader. The Dems take their copy back to their Ward Leader. And one of the election workers takes the 3rd copy down to City Hall. Our Ward leaders tally up the Ward-wire results and call them into the head of their respective parties. Then the heads of the parties confirm their tallies match the tallies of the Election Commissioners at City Hall. We felt proud to serve each election day as citizens who bear witness to make sure the voting process goes smoothly, no one is wrongly disenfranchised, and work together cooperatively across party lines to make sure we had an accurate tally.
Do your Part.
-Gerrymandering has an Archenemy and its called Ranked-Choice-Voting.
It fixes not just this 1 Problem though.
-Issue-listing Types of YT-Channels area Thing so Some-More-News and Illuminaughtii and Second-Thought
are at your Reach, keeping you Updated on not just MAGA.
@@slevinchannel7589 im slightly confused
@@slevinchannel7589 I agree with Taylor.
Sounds like you have something valuable to share but I don’t have a clue what it is. Perhaps you could rephrase your comment to make your point clearer.
“Let’s not let the GOP off the hook here” Yeah Johnny, let’s not…
Sad to see this guy got a deal with NYT.
I'm Stephen from Missouri and you
Poll working should be required like jury duty. It should be in every American's interest to ensure elections are correctly processed.
but muh freedom
People are welcome to work polls but making it mandatory like jury duty would reveal the same behaviors that people have with jury duty.
This kind of information should be channeled in more medias. My family risked our lives fleeing the Việt Cộng to live in a system where Dark Money runs the rules.
its done like this in Spain, you can literally go to prison for refusing
Slavery sucks
EVERY election is always touted as "the most important election in our lifetime" as "protect our democratic way of life... vote for me."
The rhetoric is as banal as it is predictable.
I've always thought the biggest threat to our democracy is our system of legalized bribery called campaign finance. Candidates need to raise money to run campaigns, and who contributes to those campaigns influences how members of Congress vote. It also influences who we get to vote for, because no candidate will be able to even get nominated by their party without money. Voting in America is nothing more than giving a rubber stamp to a candidate who has been selected by contributors and donors.
As long as Congress has money they can use to reward campaign contributors, they'll always have campaign contributors.
The melodrama over this apparent threat to democracy strikes me as overwrought, and disingenuous. The oligarchs have colluded to decimate the middle class, aided by politicians who seize upon the latest crisis to transfer wealth from the People and the republic to the oligarchs. Corporations, having placed their operatives in key governmental positions, proceed to draft business-friendly legislation-at all levels of government-that strip local communities of control over their resources and circumstances. Maui and East Palestine are only the most recent instances; the bailouts in response to the pandemic and the mortgage crises are others. In what functional democracy are such abuses of power even possible?!
@@MusicInContext7 everything you're mentioning here is correct except the first two sentences. We have a democracy but it is corrupt and used against us. Changing point was in the 60s: world wide clampdown on protests and serious pushback happening in the 70s on, especially after Vietnam. The biggest threat now, and not an overwrought threat, is Project 2025.
This needs to get pushed harder by NYT it’s a really great explainer
it's a opinion piece and a biased one at that. he is just pushing his opinion on you nothing more.
For a chilling reason to agree, consider that when the Georgia General Assembly (and Gov. Kemp) were rewriting the election laws after Biden, Warnock and Ossoff victories in 2020, they also had the foresight to pass a constitutional carry law that basically says it is okay if everyone is packing heat. While firearms may be prohibited in schools, there are other places to put voting facilities that don't have the gun prohibition of the schools. Will these folks put two and two together for a real nice effort at intimidation? Stay tuned.
@@appropriate-channelname3049 it's definitely an opinion piece sure, but it is all backed up by quite alot of evidence
@@FlowElectron more evidence than for all the election fraud claims.
@@appropriate-channelname3049 Hear hear, it's only media doing all it's best to decieve.
As a German i lost all faith in America ... i always wanted to live in America ... but since 2016 i realize the EU has to become more independet from the USA
How's the r8ypyougee crisis working out in Deautchland? I can't believe what has happened to my ancestors Homeland. Volksdeautch in J00merica. Please stop German women from being assaulted.
Faith in America? Dont you have faith in Germany?
Good luck Europeans worship America like crazy lol 😂 y’all don’t even have culture anymore America says Europe does lol 😂
What? It isn't that deep dude. This video is exaggerating a bit. Plus why would America and Europe distance themselves from each other when they are each others greatest ally. Doesn't make sense.
@@vyros.3234 what is the video exaggerating?
Sounds like Johnny is the conspiracy theorist, or at least extremely partisan: "Democrats good, Republicans bad"
New York Times enough said !
I showed Id to order beer, to buy liquor, to send paper documents in Fedex. Don't tell me people want to vote but never use other ID required sevices.
This is why as an independent I'm signing up to be poll worker, these folks are insane.
Why? What are they doing illegal?
Fantastic!
I’m a right-leaning independent, so this was interesting to watch. I wasn’t watching it as a fellow Democrat who wants Democrats to win, nor as a Republican who denied the information. I’m just kind of frustrated by our system and the people in it, and don’t see a way to fix it. But whoever wins, even if it’s someone I don’t like, should win fairly. We need to make sure elections stay open to all citizens. I hate this meta power struggle so much.
US states need to implement rank-choice voting or other methods to allow more parties to participate and actually have a chance of winning.
@@Allaiya. Rank choice is terrible
i’m a leftie Libertarian Independent and support neither party and I agree.
@@jaredhouston4223 It's objectively the most democratic form of voting.
@@xamotii7988 democracies fail read a history book
How ironic that he used the word …. Plumbing.. after the “plumbing leak” in PA during the 2020 election
For either party, one thing is clear, the voting process is outdated and for a first world country it is really suspicious why that is.
At the last presidential election in my local precinct I remember being pleased at seeing clearly labeled bi-partisan reps at every step along the way during the voting process to ensure that one side didn’t have singular access to any of the checkpoints along the way for processing fellow community members while they cast their votes. That was a happy moment to see such common sense action being done to help everyone feel less conspiratorial
I worked as a poll worker in the last election, and even in my tiny county I was surprised at just how thorough they were to make sure nothing sketchy was going on. After that experience I find it very hard to believe that any widespread fraud is going on. They are very, very thorough; and more importantly, perfectly bipartisan
It was not like that in Philadelphia and Atlanta. Most places has excellent oversight from both sides, but, in 2020, republicans were kicked out of the count in many offices. TRUTH. Actually, now, in feb of 2024, 70% of ALL american voters believe that 2020 was stolen from Trump. There was massive evidence. However, the leftist DAs AGs and federal circuit court judges of the cities of the last 5 swing states refused to allow any evidence to be presented. AND, they also refused to allow for forensic investigations. They merely did recounts of the same ballots, and, did not examine and separate illegitimate ballots from legitimate ones. And, SOME election fraud happens in every election. The only question is for any year, is whether or not it was enough to change the end results. Most importantly, 2020 had massive waves of mail-in-ballots, while many people received multiple ballots in their name, and, many ballots were allowed to be accounted with little or no scrutiny.
Yet there are many videos of Republican vote witnesses being thrown out of forced to stand at a distance that was impractical. How do you account for that?
@@TurkishTheTube In Philly, there was even one precinct that they used the local police to throw them outside. WHen the republican witnesses got binoculars to observe through the window, they then covered the windows with newspaper. ANd, the cops threatened arrest if the republicans tried to get back inside. TRUE AND DOCUMENTED ON FILM..
@@TurkishTheTube sources?
I don´t get it. "They start to invoke these rarley used official election rules and they start to challenge almost every vote". Is the argument that they shouldn´t be thorough? Doesn´t make sense to me.
One thing is thoroughness and another is an active attempt to clog the system with nitpicks in key regions.
They will focus on contesting votes in key Democratic precincts in swing states (not "almost every vote" nationally). This will become legal fodder to contest the results in those Democratic strongholds. If a given state has elected a MAGA secretary of state, that person will use the legal challenges as the basis to refuse to certify the election. Such a scenario will destroy the legitimacy of the election process, which is vital to the survival of a democracy.
Exactly right. This is ridiculous propaganda masquerading as serious journalism.
The melodrama over this apparent threat to democracy strikes me as overwrought, and disingenuous. The oligarchs have colluded to decimate the middle class, aided by politicians who seize upon the latest crisis to transfer wealth from the People and the republic to the oligarchs. Corporations, having placed their operatives in key governmental positions, proceed to draft business-friendly legislation-at all levels of government-that strip local communities of control over their resources and circumstances. Maui and East Palestine are only the most recent instances; the bailouts in response to the pandemic and the mortgage crises are others. In what functional democracy are such abuses of power even possible?!
It is worth mentioning that all of these voting issues could be fixed by congress tomorrow, but every side wants to give itself an advantage so nothing ever gets done. This is a perfect case of "don't blame the player, blame the game"
Writing from Europe: Sorry but voting without the ID is a crazy idea.
Getting an ID in America requires you to drive somewhere. That's why the Repubs like it. Poor people can't drive. Efforts to make ID's easily available are refused by the same folks who want voter ID's. That's the crazy part.
Yeah but ID isn't compulsory in USA (which is also a crazy idea)
ID's are one of many ways republicans have thought up to disproportionately disenfranchise black voters. It's also a form of poll tax for some which is unacceptable
Yes it's wild we'll auto put you in the system in case we need to have a draft but you're on your own to get an ID
Well said! Johnny equates every effort to ensure that voting is accurate and fair as corrupt and dishonest. This is the most insane bit of fear mongering to support the Democrats blood thirst for power that I have seen in a long time.
This is what happens when you put a polarizing person on power and he has the power to change the state of mind and thinking of people
As an Indian, I can get you.
@@Sid-mj1qf as an Indian, I can get you first
India is lucky to have great leader at the moment. Can't say the same for USA.
Of a radical minority
@@gabbar51ngh better than Trump
We saw too many irregularities with our own eyes in the last 2020 election!!
“A house divided cannot stand.” - Thomas Jefferson, one of the founding fathers of America. Lincoln said something similar
It's even older than that, it's a quote from the Bible, Matthew, 12: 25.
The biggest problem with the US is not democracy. It’s the American culture which is highly confrontational and loves imposing their own ideals onto others. You notice the word “fight” and “punish” are inherent in the way Americans talks? As society progresses, so does confrontation. Good luck to American democracy
Well said
Ship sailed. My state’s congressional district map does not allow me to have any impact in any election. I’m leaving.
Are you American??
You have pointed out something I came to realized long ago after coming to this country. I've always wondered why politicians in their speech use the word "fight"so much. Words are powerful, and they influence our behavior. If something needs to be changed for the common good, why does someone need to "fight"? Remember how at the beginning of the pandemic politicians used phrases like "We are going to fight this virus" or "we have a war against an invisible enemy" So, again the problem is not democracy itself but American culture, the way Americans "handle things"
What? Imposing ideals on others is NOT an American thing, it's a collectivist thing (like fascism, socialism, communism, etc. And democracy, btw, rule by the majority, screw you minority.)
If we're a country that imposes it's will on others, then why did we severely limit the federal government, only giving it so much power, constrained power, and giving all other powers to the states?
Now there is a group that comes to mind, that has tried to impose it's will on the American ppl, and that would be the Democratic party, pretty much from slavery times to today, with a few exceptions.
Holy crap. This is basically a coup without the guns. An administrative coup.
Register to vote. Vote blue, and make sure all your friends do too. This thing can end very badly if Republicans take over the state legislatures.
The hope is that the political coup will get their opposition to step out of line so that they can then use those guns in a "defensive" manner.
I thought that was January 6 🤡🤡
@@Doomxeen politicians should fear the public they serve. Today, they don't.
Exactly like Hitler rose to power. Be carefull, Americans.
Oh yeah she really is a fair journalist
Completely unbiased
In my country of Guyana, South America, we have a 2-times vote system in place! First, we vote privately at the ballot at the polling station... and then again in the yard of the polling station as we leave the polling station. We indicate to monitors of all parties (privately vote again) who we had voted for! So we have two sources to calculate how the votes went!
This is how we knew that in our last election... that the ruling party had cheated...because the 2-vote counts had not correlated! It took about 1 year of court and international pressure to have them kicked out of power!
So calling people to become more involved , rather than just taking in all of your propaganda , isn't a good thing. Sounds like a very good thing to me.
The calling is to hijack a working system based on lies. So, it's pretty bad.
The way to fight this is accountability. If people start realizing that they will face legal consequences for shady voting practices, if people get sued for crying fraud when there is no evidence, etc.that should steal their fire somewhat. Consequences for lying and cheating!
And if there is evidence, courts cannot be allowed to blow it off with dubious claims about standing or timetables
If there is evidence, it *_MUST_* be examined *_OBJECTIVELY_* to determine if it is credible enough to support claims of any wrongdoing
@@The_Assassin_of_The_Gray Yeah, but that part's pretty well covered. Plenty of practice examining non-existent evidence last time around. A much bigger threat is people crying "fraud" when they lose, now that good ol'Trump opened the door for them
@@The_Assassin_of_The_Gray Courts threw out 60 cases because the evidence was a joke. What do you want? Do you know the name Melissa Carone?
@@thewaffle003 Not thrown out "because the evidence was a joke"
It was thrown out because they were either partisan or intimidated by the political environment
*_SPARE ME_*
@@The_Assassin_of_The_Gray "Intimidated by the political environment" ?
Please. Republican radicals are not intimidated by anything. That's why Aileen Cannon granted Trump a special master in the Mar-a-Lago case without any good reason to, and it is now blowing up in both their faces.
Here's something you should understand about your team: they do not. Back down.
If the cases got thrown out, it's because even the Trump-appointed judges weren't psychos and there was nothing there.
It is terrifying that one party has decided to read the rules and follow them, and if a rule is broken, they will report or challenge the rule breaker! Absurdity at its finest! How dare states ask people to follow the rules when it comes to electing bureaucratic officials who can affect the lives of so many! The audacity!
In Kenya voters are identified by face recognition and fingerprints. Voting is a national holiday too
It's more like Johny is spreading a conspiracy
It is truly sad to see what is happening to America. Honestly it breaks my heart.
This is a warning to all the free democracy countries of the world. If this can happen to America, this can happen to any nation that embraces democracy. Democracy is not perfect nor guaranteed, it's very delicate and we need to prevent its collapse at the first sign of it.
Same. I have family in the United States and I hope that they will be safe and stay true to facts.
It’s awful. The worst part about it here is that so few of my friends and family really understand what’s happening
It is the media "news outlets"
They have forgotten the reason for their existence is not solely to provide monetary rewards to shareholders.
"The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it."
It should be easy to vote, but the Republicans passed laws making it harder to vote. People are waking up and paying attention to what's going on. You have to as yourself, why are Republicans doing this? Do the believe in democracy, or do they want another system.
Most people don’t have experience with a malignant narcissist, so it’s hard for them to believe someone could be so manipulative and evil.
It isn't that hard to believe someone could be, we have had politicians for the entirety of the country's lifespan. What is hard for people to believe is that the media, the ones who were supposed to be on the side of the people, have sold the American people out, and lied to them about Trump and MAGA.
ANd, yes, in Washington DC I have to show my ID at my designated precinct, and I watch them scroll through and mark off my name. Nothing new to an election. Its impossible to have two of me at my address.
I am still baffled by how the richest country have such an ineffective election process... India have way way better election system considering the fact that we have a lot more corruption but still a better voter ID, election machine and poll booth system (double voting is practically impossible in India)
“I believe there are forces working within the federal government to undermine the constitution and profit off of the American people” - Richard Nixon (before he got harassed into resigning for investigating the government)
one's hidden reply would beg to differ
lol you cant dubble vote in the US ither
Ryyyyyyyyt
In US, you walk into polling location, show your ID and they match it to a list of registered voters, you sign your name. You go into the booth and close the privacy curtain, make your selections, finalize them with a big red button, exit booth, get your “I voted” sticker and leave. Easy.
If the US had more than two parties, this would not happen as easilily. People get mobilized very quickly in such a system.
Did Germany have more than two parties a century ago?
It does have more than two parties, it's just that third parties have no hope of winning due to the way elections are structured
America has way more than two political parties. If you knew anything about this country you would know that
@@zacharyhenderson2902 It does but it doesn’t matter in the grand scheme of things, we need ranked choice voting or something similar in order to start breaking free of the duopoly
That worked out well for the Germans, I'm told.
Citizens exercise legal rights to oversee election process -> Threat to democracy. I'm a long time follower of Mr. Harris and extremely disappointed by this flawed argument. I immigrated to the US from Taiwan, where everyone needs to show ID and voter registration notice in order to vote. I was surprised by the archaic voting mechanism in the US.
The video lays downs meticulously the right-wing plan to rig the election in their favor, but for some reason 👆 that was your take away. Dont worry I see what you are doing.
There are always two sides to the story. Always seek answers and never trust someone that speaks in absolutes.
Or just never trust someone that SPEAKS.
Yeah incredibly one sided. Johnny speaks as if the evil Republicans (who obviouly deserve to die BTW) invented and mastered voting fraud in the last 3 years. The angelic Democrats would never try such odious practices. Very naive of Mr. Johnny.
You shouldn't just be "afraid", you should be 'aware' and you should then take that newfound awareness and learn enough to become a politically active member that *knows what they're talking about and the impact of their support and decisions*
This is the point where humans learn that they can't be complacent and ignorant, you can't make the choice not to learn about politics in the hopes that the politicians will do it for you and do the right thing
This is the point where humans begin to value and cherish knowledge like we do money
Either we choose to improve or we choose to give up, there is no in between anymore
I got elected to my local school board. But after 1 year, I was so disgusted with the system that I didn't run again. Instead, as a lawyer, I moved to Japan and switched to international law advising Japanese companies about American law. I am happily now retired, but it shocks and sadden me to see what is happening to the US.
Why do I have to become politically active when there are several countries that I could move to where I don't have to be politically active?
@@MrSuperJaskirat cause when those countries and you have no where else to run to what will you do?
@@darknes9556 they won't fall.
@@MrSuperJaskirat you never know? 🤷
Dear Mr. Harris, It's 2024. The Presidential election is a little over 6 months from the date I am writing this. I just now discovered your video. If MAGA nation have been working on this plan of infiltrating the vote counting/verifying system since 2022, ...well, what do we (those who believe in the bigger ideal of preserving democracy and getting away from tribalism as the end goal: GOP or DEM or MAGA or LIBERAL, etc.) do now?? You stated: "In this short film, we shine a light on those machinations, so that those who care about democracy can act to stop them." I'll reiterate: "...SO THAT THOSE WHO CARE ABOUT DEMOCRACY CAN ACT TO STOP THEM." Yes. Let's But if the offices for Secretary of State, and others who verify what they determine to be fair and free election votes, are NOW already in place (as of 2022, I'm guessing)...what concrete things can we do for this upcoming 2024 election, given that (I assume) the GOP and/or MAGA already have things set up and there are no more elections for these positions of Secretary of State, etc., that will happen before the Presidential Election in Nov. 2024? (Please feel free to share this with Michelle Cottle).
Remember everyone that this is the New York Times, now I’m not saying any of their points are invalid because of their political position. It’s key to take into account who is giving you this information and why. Again not saying that a their information isn’t true, but it all seems a bit skeptical and not hard proof that this is happening on the scale they’re saying it is. Could be a reason it’s not getting much traction. God Bless.
I still want to know why having voter’s ID is a tool for voter’s suppression.
11% of US citizens don't have government-issued ID, so they would lose their right to vote.
Exactly my question! It seems crazy to me. I'm Kenyan and here you cannot vote without your ID, it has never been an issue. How else are they supposed to know you are who you say you are?
@@paulinewangui94 The problem is that there are also ways to obstruct you to get an ID. So it piles up.
@@andresbarriga5305 wtf, almost everyone has an ID and can easily obtain one. You have years to get it. You need a drivers ID to drive a car no? Cut the crap!
@@rocketman3770 Precisely: It's as crazy as it sounds. Please inform yourself about it.
This piece is so biased that I am almost forced to disregard everything in it. For both of the people featured in the video to continuously refer to the U.S. as a democracy, shows that neither actually know anything about the history of the U.S.! If they both weren't oozing with liberal jargon, it would be far easier to believe the points that they focused on. I imagine that ALL of the liberals will automatically believe what is presented, and all of the conservatives will either not watch all of the video or they will not believe a word of it. I am a democrat, but this video is so over the top with absolutes and fear mongering, that I have a very difficult time accepting any of the points in the video. One of my main questions is, why are the liberals so afraid of creating a system that has fewer or no ways to cheat? The argument that increasing voter security is racist, was presented with absolutely no supporting data. I understand that this is just an opinion piece, but it is presented as fact based. That seems to be exceptionally manipulative, and none of us deserve to be manipulated!! I gave you a dislike for these and other points in your nearly propaganda level video. You have wasted more than half an hour of my life, and I am kind of forced to believe that you probably lied to me on several points. Please stop being dishonest.
Well said, jimalexander. I was a Dem for what is still the majority of my life. I am a Conservative, now, and I did watch the entire video as think it is important to listen to both sides, found some good points in the first part, then was totally disgusted by the very biased, highly selective and incompetent second part on voting.
I agree with your comment 100%!
It's about creating a chaotic election night with lots of so-called evidence of voter fraud in districts held by Democrats.
The fact that this strategy is worrisome simply demonstrates that the system is subject to manipulation. There can't be any evidence of fraudulent activity because there aren't checks and balances in place to detect it in the first place. Just look at mail in votes: there's no way to verify who actually cast that ballot. If there is some dispute over the signature on a contract during litigation, there will be an army of experts called to testify over that single signature.....yet we expect a county commissioner, with no training or education regarding signatures, to verify thousands, or tens of thousands, of signatures? Not a chance they will get it right.
Shes full of it. This is hear say and dogma
I am not from the US but why voter ID is controversial? Is it not normal to request ID for voting?
It IS (it's called a Drivers License). But they want you to believe it's NOT so that you will be _outraged._ It's what the media does.
11% of American citizens don't have a government-issued ID.
@@MrDavidBFoster What a weird thing to push as "controversial"😆
“People that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves, liars and traitors are not victims… but accomplices". ⚔
George Orwell
Exactly how I feel about Biden, thank you
@@jamesmooney8933 from a fact standpoint, those words stated above represents Trump like a glove
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@@Ryuk-IsLife In your opinion not mine
@@jamesmooney8933 Trump like a glove.
These laws are RACIST 🤣🤣🤣🤣 like no factual evidence to back up what she saying at all
Stopped being a conservative that I have been for over 40 years.
In my state (New York), the "suppressing the low income vote" would never make sense as a scheme to benefit Republicans, because most Republicans in this state are low income. In the suburban/downstate region of NY, you have high levels of wealth and education and a liberal majority. It is in the rural, low-income Upstate districts where Republicans thrive.
I think that the people who make this argument are living in a time that no longer exists. For most of the 20th Century, wealthy people did indeed vote mostly Republican, while the working class was largely Democrat. That's no longer the case.
The sheer irony of the New York Times investigating the threat to democracy...
Yeah I don’t get the irony … do tell …
So true... Lol
@@nannersguyaners2745 The NYT is always, always and forever always on the side of authoritarian big government by the elitists and against limited government by the people. It truly is that simple.
I'm sorry, but USA is not really a democracy. Scandinavians like myself see USA as our clever, big brother in many respects, but on this point we're way ahead.
Thieves won't be caught until they are fully exposed. You are ashamed as you accused those who have found the stealing problems, rather than assisted in exploring the evidence to stop the stealing.
And remember that half of America doesn't even bother to vote.
I have always thought it would be interesting to see the rate of voter participation if each time you voted you were mailed a check of $50 or $100.
I don't bother to vote, but only who's the king this week doesn't actually matter. My quality of life is determined by corporate lobbyists, same as everyone else's.
@@MrDavidBFoster That's exactly what they want you to do. Give up and not vote so they can do as they please.
@@kerningandleading U can't quit something you never started.
@@MrDavidBFoster If you don't bother to exercise your patriotic right, you won't miss it when you lose it.
@@Matt-fl8uy I'm free enough I don't need anyone to tell me what my rights are. I understand I'm rather unique in that aspect. If you meant _"they're coming to take me away",_ well there ain't much anyone can do about that.
I have several Trump supporters in my life that are literally saying "if it's Trump we don't need term limits" be warned this can go all the way. I have not given up trying to make a difference and Defragging misconceptions but I have given up hope. If I could leave this country I would.
We talk about it frequently, my wife and I. I'm in medical school, and I pray that it will give us a ticket out of here, because Trumpism is still very much a threat. The RIght is relentless and utterly shameless. This country is in for very, very dark times.
if all the normal people leave the U.S. then the rest of us are really screwed. You’d be bailing on your country which needs you
It's terrifying watching this from the outside (New Zealand). It's all unfolding so quickly! But the world needs a strong (and sane) America. America has always had its problems, but our global superpower alternatives are not very appealing. So hold yourselves together, please!
Some of us are stickin' around to fight, and mean to win.
People have been telling me all my life, _"America: Love it, or Leave it",_ and I've always answered them, _"Well then, just show me the door, and I'm outta here!"_ It turns out, they would rather you to stick around so they can teach you who's boss.
i do enjoy the way your vids are done. ty.
what i can say for certain is
in a very recent video by michael franzese when explaining some of his past mafia life that when buying politicians they always went to and used the dems. when asked why he said
simple
they were always the easiest to turn.
The fact that people question the reality of suppression is why suppression tactics work. They aren't new. Just because anyone seeing this obviously has access to cell phones, social media, bank accounts, basic education, and likely accessibility to travel, makes it hard to recognize that these aren't absolutes throughout the US. Many, many people do not enjoy any of these privileges. And sadly, the people in power in all these boring roles know this and continue making it difficult for people to vote, continue marginalizing counties that don't benefit them, and ultimately know people are swayed by loud words
I’m increasingly concerned that we know all of this yet we are unable to stop it. What do we do the day after it happens?
Just do what you did last time when Trump won. You deny the election for four years. Then when your opponents do the same thing you pretend like you never did it and become a hypocrite. Then you accuse them of doing exactly what you did and gaslight everyone into thinking that you never denied the previous election. You guys are unbelievable. You guys are already planning to deny the results of the next election, you denied the results of the 2016 election and have the balls to accuse others of being election deniers. You guys are a joke.
@@jackkelly4032 you guys? Can you read? I’m concerned about the losing elections and having no recourse. Thanks for your ignorance. We appreciate you types here.
VOTE RED TO SAVE DEMOCRACY
@@johnadams1281 bruh, you guys are the people we should be voting AGAINST to save our democracy
@@Icey7405 no. That’s what the media wants you to believe. There is so much information being kept from you.
Sad that people didn't see this coming when they failed to pull it off in 2020. They learned a lesson and felt emboldened because of all the media attention.
What a joke dude . No one is trying to take anything . Listen to yourself , what exactly have you said ? nothing.
Democrats and Clinton however did first plant the seeds of doubt by saying Russia corrupted the 2016 election . Democrats did encourage people to
Riot and loot in every city .
But all of that is dust in the wind . Only janurary 6th exists .
You CLOWNS . Absolute C L O W N S
This was happening before 2020. A lot of these people are on school and healthcare boards. They just expanded
yes conspiracy my A$$ did you not even learn from cambodia? even un hold the election and later watcher and yet it still can be fraud. let alone usa did with machine and doesn't even have un do as watcher. stop spread ridiculous story. election can't reverse even it has fraud. it is the rule of war. reversing the election mean remove the entire opposite party. it mean war.
After seeing this, George Orwell's theory of the raise of Totalitarianism is becomming rael.
I registered to vote when In moved to Wyoming. I had to prove I was a resident to get a driver's license. It required utility bill or lease agreement. Big deal. Then I registered to vote. I have to vote in general election to stay registered. If I don't vote, I need to reregister. This is to keep accurate voter registration. I vote absentee. I drop by courthouse and request absentee at least 2 months before election. Big deal. Democrats exaggerate how difficult it is. If you can't be bothered to do this, you shouldn't bother voting. If you troubled by showing ID to vote but show ID for buying alcohol, you're off.
Imagine if these nuts focused on Universal Healthcare and free education it's amazing what they could accomplish
except they would have to deal with more instiutional opposiion, which is harder to crack, and probably fall apart, plus breaking something apart is harder than building somehing
Funny how GOP manipulated their base into thinking obamacare/medicare is bad for them. Crazy part is these naive people believe it. They genuinely think lowering med costs are bad for them somehow.
they do, they work hard to prevent both of them.
More handouts. We're already on track to insolvency.
education and healthcare shouldnt be free, it should be AFFORDABLE and big pharma and schools should be allowed to spike their rates just to make loads of money or pad there shareholders pockets
What's the problem with challenging voters? Everyone should be checked before they can submit a vote, no matter what. If the preconditions are valid, the vote can be submitted.
The problem is you could not have time to do all the checks. If the voter is in the poll book, that vote can be submitted.
I live in Utah, we have a good system set up for voting. If you receive a vote-by-mail ballot, you are still allowed to vote in person as long as you have not returned your by-mail ballot. Your vote history is recorded in the database and will be checked by poll worker before you will be allowed to vote on the electronic voting machine.
Of course there is doubt...the easier you make it to cheat something...guess what people will cheat. Remove any possible way to cheat and people will trust it.
So they are making sure this will be a self-fulfilling prophecy. What they are doing will be in the courts some distant day in the future. You should work to make it visible NOW.
My favorite is always the “people voting twice” conspiracy. Each ballot has a specific unique number written on it that corresponds with the number on a person’s voter registration. If the same number was written twice they don’t think it would be flagged in 5 seconds?
If there was even a fraction of the amount of voter fraud these people claim we would see some sort of evidence, a “smoking gun”. Yet there is next to none with the only cases being extremely few and far between. It’s a symptom of Trump being a poor loser and his party taking after him. And now rational republicans that work in elections are stepping down due to death threats from their own voters. Dark days.
It's not important what THEY think, it's important what YOU think. Why do you think they keep you in the dark and feed you Sh--?
Didn't they send sometimes multiple ballots to an address? It's not even like they have multiple people in the house either
@@MrDavidBFoster Lol, David, you have been propagandized my friend.
@@MrDavidBFoster I think election deniers are delusional sore losers. And what’s being kept in the dark? Lmao
Very interesting. BUT the video should have been clearer that contesting Republicans isn’t the point. It’s contesting BAD FAITH Republicans for these roles.
Voting in a bad faith Democrat who may do the same in return isn’t going to help democracy either. Good faith is the key (and highly preferably Democrat if you’re a democrat supporter)
Also the video thumbnail sucks. Needs changing for the video to get more reach
the concept of making it harder to vote for people is by itself anti-democratic.
also, a system that can elect a president for whom a minority the population actually voted for (while a majority voted for his opponent) is just bonkers.
None dare call it fascism. This is the 21st century, not 1932. Fascism has evolved.
It all starts in education and values. In a society lacks all solidarity, how can anyone be surprised there is such high levels of mistrust?
What's sick in America is it's soul, it is what infecting it's political system
There are no values any more. Values are wrong. Anything goes, or are you a transphobe?
Politics is the sickness
The mistrust is pushed by tinfoil hat Trump sheep
Money infected the political system. Big time.
Like George Carlin opined at one point, "We don't have those kind of people here."
You know, people you can actually trust.
Gut feeling and intuition. I can't believe. I'd love to take that as a joke if it wasn't for the danger it poses to the political system and stability and integrity of the US. This is really good work, it's the journalism and deep profound analysis we need in these times. Thank you for that.
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yes conspiracy my A$$ did you not even learn from cambodia? even un hold the election and later watcher and yet it still can be fraud. let alone usa did with machine and doesn't even have un do as watcher. stop spread ridiculous story. election can't reverse even it has fraud. it is the rule of war. reversing the election mean remove the entire opposite party. it mean war.
The USA should not worry about foreign threats as much as self loathing. I see a number of non US commenters also. I seems the “ foreigners “ are as concerned as the natives. ❤🇨🇦. That said Rupert Murdoch managed to destroy two countries.
I love that here in Switzerland we have the best democracy:)
The voting process needs to be 100% transparent. If that means an audit then fine so long as it’s audited in the “Open”.
WE THE PEOPLE need to be able to trust our system!
And just for the sake of being open and honest: denying election outcomes is not a republican phenomenon, because both the Democrats and Republicans have denied election outcomes! Does Stacey Abrams ring a bell, in Georgia!
As someone watching this outside the US. If you are watching this, and are able to. You should get involve at the local level, for protecting democracy for sake of your country and the world. But also, the biggest changes and improvements are started at the local level. I don’t think there’s a way to convince Trump fans of thinking differently. We underestimate democracy, only those that have seen it fallen know why it’s important to fight for it and protect it.
Remove the antiwhite communities and the DEI double standards and America may have a shot.