I have no idea why they chose Todd for the main character, much less for the Straight Man archetype. A much better choice for that would have been Benjamin/Mark. Introduced in the second book. Especially since he himself was already a transfer student, and often played a straight man. His only gimmick was that everyone thought his name was Mark Miller, when it was actually Benjamin Nushmut. A very simple and rather boring gimmick compared to the other students. So, he would have been a MUCH BETTER choice for the straight man, fish out of water archetype they wanted.
Yeah, and the writers totally could have taken that concept up to eleven in a similar way to that Handa-Kun manga, where misinformation about Handa spreads like wildfire to the point where everybody is too intimidated to get to know the REAL Handa when really, he's just a regular dude who thinks everyone hates him due to how distant they all seem to be with him. Imagine if the Wayside show writers did something like that with the book's world logic. Everyone gets these wild ideas about Ben's backstory, maybe even to the point where the teachers are confused/concerned, and they never stop to think that maybe they should just stop and ask Ben about himself. And that could lead to Ben getting into wacky situations because people ASSUME one thing about him when really it's the opposite.
There also Allison who is the most rationally-minded of all the kids in Mrs. Jewls' class or Sue from the Sideways Arithmetic series who's also a new student they could've used.
It was over the moment they decided to have a main character. It was *double* over the moment they decided to make the main character *the kid whose entire deal is that he gets sent home early every single day.*
If you want to have a normal straight man protagonist in a wacky world, make them boring. Weirdly boring and bland to the point that it's not normal. Dress in beige and their favorite food is plain oatmeal. Make them their own flavor of weird that balances well with the tone of the show.
My first thought was Larry, the normal type gym leader from Pokemon Scarlet and Violet, and how popular that character turned out to be. And it was mostly because we was just a normal office worker-type guy who happened to be a gym leader and elite four member, the juxtaposition was great.
Another example would be Shinpachi from Gintama. He's so ordinary and bland the only defining feature is his glasses, and the show makes clever jokes around him
that was only good thing about it, i remember watching this, i think i liked tormenting myself, this show was bad, i wish i knew about the books they look good
I don't think the claim that it displaced Wayside as Louis Sachar's most-known work is accurate, though. I've never even heard of Holes, and I certainly knew about Wayside before seeing this video.
The best Wayside adaptation is actually Ned's Declassified. Think about it. Character's like Claire Sawyer, Future Lawyer, Coconut Head, and the dozens of other weird kids we see would be perfect for Wayside. Gordy is basically the exact same character as Luis, and the idea of exaggerating the normal problems and logic kids face fir comedic effect is the thesis statement of that show. As someone who grew up with the books and with that show, it is absolutely the best unofficial adaptation we could get.
@@dannydamnmendez It's so funny that they were airing side by side because I for some reason never acknowledged the existence of Wayside until some other guy ranted about it on the internet like a decade-ish ago. Years before Just Stop did. Then I watched Just Stop's video. And now we are here.
The scene where Principal Kidswatter having a hard time fitting that square donut in a cup from the episode where every round objects in Wayside School turned into Minecraft-esque cubes engraved in my mind. That Principal is maybe goofy, but he definitely has the spirit as if he's the reverse Mr. Crocker.
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And then he willed everything into being round again, one by one.
At least, Wayside tried to capture the spirit and wacky nature of the books. Jem and The Holograms couldn't even get the basic esthetic and tone of the original source material down correctly.
I remember that movie! My mom watched it as a kid and I watched all the episodes on a streaming service and was excited to see the movie to see…Garbage
I kinda follows the Velma principal or the Banjo Kazooie Nuts N Bolts principal of trying to adapt something while constantly being self deprecating and almost ashamed of being associated with what it's trying to adapt.
Weirdly one way to fix this show while keeping Todd as a protagonist but keeping the anthology style of the books, just make the show like Tales From The Crypt. Todd is older and is telling some nebulous audience (probably kids) about the weird things that happened at Wayside.
I watched Wayside as a kid, but it was always a "take it or leave it" sorta show. Unmemorable, juvenile, a footnote in Nick's long list of forgotten shows. I knew of the books, but I didn't like them at all. I guess the show is a bad adaptation, but I personally don't have enough stake in the series to care.
I remember wishing that there was an episode of Wayside where Todd's parents showed up to chew out Mrs. Jewels about sending Todd home early everyday and effecting his education (especially after that episode where Todd couldn't go on the "field trip" because the permission slip was given out *AFTER* Todd was sent home early.). Like, surely his parents got fed up with him being the only one ever sent home early so frequently.
I remember thinking that Wayside was the second best show, right behind johnny test. Then i watched gravity falls and realized that everything i was watching before then was garbage.
The only thing i remember from this adaptation was the stupid "Girl bullies Boy cause she has crush on him!!!" Thing i cannot stand in old cartoons. Why could they just make her... NOT ABUSE HIM????
My guess is that they are playing on the idea that Boys tease and mess with girls because they secretly like them, only the roles are reversed. Also, to be fair, it's not like this idea hasn't been done before or since. There is a reason they call it "The Tsundere Trope."
I think a cool idea would be Lewis being a effectively older version of todd in a way, a straight man to the rest of wayside's craziness, but in a different way than todd, instead of actively trying to fix things he instead just goes along with it while making sure things go smoothly. Maybe a flashback epsiode of a younger lewis trying to make things go smoother at wayside, showing a difference from how todd and lewis handled things.
I work at a library in a small-ish city in Northern Ireland, and lemme tell you: the Wayside series is STILL surprisingly popular with kids. We have around 2 copies of each book in our stock and we just can't keep them on our shelves. If I return 1 during my shift by the next day It's almost always been rented out. I think Wayside, Dogman and either Beast Quest or the Rainbow Magic series are our most popular kids books right now. It's so cool to see new generations picking up my childhood favs!
Bro the thing I hated about wayside was how Todd was treated I would always feel upset and angry at Mrs.Jewel for putting him on the kindergarten bus for doing nothing wrong or trying to explain a situation
So, this would be like if The Magic School Bus focused primarily on Phoebe or Arnold at the expense of everyone else, including Miss Frizzle? And the rest of the cast was Flanderized?
The worst part is, they decided to make Todd the generic straight-man instead of Benjamin. If they had to have a generic straight-man, Benjamin is the only student who at least kind of fits the bill. Everyone else at Wayside hardly ever even notices anything about it being weird.
Oh, this show!!! Man, I used to love this show as a little kid, I always stood up and danced during it's intro. My favorite characters were two glasses kids- a girl and a curly boy, but I don't remember their names now. I watched an episode of it a year ago, just for nostalgia sake and the animation was really bad, interesting how I never noticed that back then.
We were all young naive kids back then, plus our memories aren’t the same as the ones they were back then. Our memories tends to twist it a bit to make it look better than it actually was.
is it a bad adaptation? sure.. is it a bad show? nah, i liked it actually is it a perfect show? eh, it has its ups and downs.. is it the worst adaptation? no.. CW and Netflix are already competing in that category
compared to books oh by far one the worse out there, its true insult to them. CW just took certain media turn them in dramas, Netflix yeah do pretty bad especially anime oh god.
@@718jefOh yeah, I understand that. Not every adaptation is gonna hit it out of the park. However, you can't just simply disregard all the good adaptations and say that the entire library is bad. That's just ignorant.
Isn't show Todd basically the character Benjamin Nushmutt from the the second book? The new kid who is put off by the weirdness of the school (if I remember correctly)?
Actually, interesting thing there: I’d meant to bring up Benjamin in relation to Todd at some point, but I never did since, in the end, he’s more an inverse of that trope than anything resembling it. It’s not that he’s put off by the weirdness. It’s that he alone thinks HE’S weird and will be seen as such if he reveals his real name (after being introduced as Mark Miller by Mrs Jewls). Then, near the end of the book, after multiple chapters trying and failing to come clean, he actually does, and the funny thing is that nobody even cares, since everyone at Wayside is weird, so he fits right in with the rest of the class. He’s not a fish out of water or a straight man. Just a guy who’s self conscious about things that don’t matter nearly as much as he thinks!
@@JustStop Would still make for a better straight man: a character too afraid to be perceived as weird learns that it's okay to be weird and embrace his weirdness
Ngl I was gonna do that, but I realized I did that exact kind of joke at the start of my Disney Sequels ranking video, so i didn’t wanna be repetitive lol
The theme song genuinely is one of the best theme songs in a cartoon ever. But yeah as a Wayside kid watching the show was disappointing, and even though I remember a time I used to record and watch all the episodes, I genuinely can't recall what most of them were about.
I saw the pilot episode a few months ago knowing nothing about the books and enjoyed it. Went to watch the first episode and it immediately felt off so I turned it off. Knowing about the books makes it worse but even on it's own merit the show felt bad. On that note, why are shows so drastically different from a pilot? Don't say "Budget", I am talking about feel and tone. 47:20 that was exactly what I hoped the show would be. "Whacky of the week" and either learning to embrace it, fix it, or use it to his advantage.
I don't know about the differences, but my guess is that a pilot shows the audience if it has the potential to have a TV series. And when the pilot got green lit to become a series sometimes there are some tweaks, likely ordered from the channel where the show aired or feedback given from the audiences. But for Wayside, I don't know about that so you're just gonna take it with a grain of salt because that's all I know about pilot shows. 😅
I used to watch this as a kid (yes I'm Canadian) and I loved it, I thought it was hilarious the principal was my favourite, I didn't know at the time it was based on a book series so there was nothing to compare it to, I found it funny that todd was basically living a hell of weird and strange that was normal to everyone else
the only part of wayside i can remember is a short story about a girl whos transferring and really nervous about her first day. She walks into school to find absolutely nobody there. turns out it was just saturday
This was me when I watched the Nickelodeon adaptation of Mr. Lemoncello's Library. I absolutely HATED that they just didn't follow the story of the book _at all_ and just turned it into a generic Halloween movie(when the original book had nothing to do with Halloween).
Ok, I’m glad I’m not the only one who HATED this show. It’s the same reason I could never love Everybody Hates Chris. Call me a sucker, but I like shows where the main character isn’t constantly the butt of an infuriating joke
I don't really care about EHC (there are some funny moments), but I agree with you, though I personally don't mind Wayside (I wish it was better though)
EHC at least is the creator Chris Rock himself making fun of himself and using exaggeration to subvert expectations. And he never actively tries to make it seem like it’s supposed to be endearing or good when he’s mistreated but rather “that’s life and we move forward”. It’s a sense of realism that you can’t actively solve every issue or fight back all the time or fix every bad condition so here’s what you can do instead. And everybody fits in his world and even the characters that are supposed to just be archetypes or tropes end up being so beloved he brought them back with more personality. But goddamn Wayside just completely feels pointless compared to the books, it just makes decisions for the sake of making decisions with no real reason or attempt a joke. It’s like someone blasting just punchlines at you. I thought the show as a stand-alone was fine but with the source material in mind, it didn’t really even try. It didn’t do anything in the first part I talked about.
I think the biggest sin of the adaptation is that it's SO mediocre. Like, at least terrible adaptations of famous works will make people reinforce why they love the source material so much. I'm sure The Last Airbender and Dragon Ball Evolution being average works would've mean death for the franchises since people will just watch it and be over with them. With mediocre adaptations, they're just something people throw away once consumed because there's just nothing that make them want more. To wit, it took years for Wayside to get a fourth book. Arguably because the mediocre adaptation just gave the author no motivation from fans to continue the books. Meanwhile, I can see how an adaptation becoming horrible will make the author quickly make the fourth book just to spite the adaptation and show what Wayside is truly about. What's baffling here is the many choices for the characters. As Mr. Enter brings up the best, Benjamin would've been the ideal everyman, but apparently, Todd, whose adaptation is everything but cheerful, ends up becoming the scapegoat character. And there are also Allison and Myron, the latter is just... What? I get adaptations need to be pragmatic about the characters, but it's clear this adaptation failed to make me remember most of the minor characters, minus Shari, who's the least ruined character in the adaptation. In fact, as Mr. Enter said, she's the only character the show got right, and considering her gimmick, that's not a tall order. Fun Fact: I once saw a book-accurate fanart of Sharie (the book name of Shari), and boy, the snowcoat is better than the raincoat. Also, we need a comic book adaptation of the books. Pictures speak louder than words, after all. Also, the saddest thing here is that Just Stop downright validated Mr. Enter's thoughts on the show. Not because I disagree with Mr. Enter, but because there are those who think Mr. Enter was being unfair, only for a more optimistic reviewer to give the same but harsher reviews to the shows he panned.
Yeah the spite thing by the OG authors of a bad adaptation is 100% a thing. Toriyama came back to writing Dragon Ball specifically because he loathed Dragon Ball Evolution, which is fair. DBE ended up saving the entire franchise by being so bad.
Oh thank you thank you thank you THANK YOU! I have been looking for others who share this same opinion! I read the books in elementary school, and when I realized this show was supposed to be the same series it was irritating that nothing at all was faithful to the book series (especially their portrayal of Dana!)! I long for an animated movie or maybe new show that is 💯% more faithful than this show
I feel like all RUclipsrs who discuss this show share this opinion. Either that or all videos I've seen of this show are from creators who hold this opinion. In fact, this comment section is the first time I'm seeing comments of people enjoying the show and that just proves how young the internet commenters are getting. Aaaa!
This is lowkey how I felt about reading the Big Nate Book series and then seeing the Nick show trailers drop. Then I remembered the comics can be a lot more wackier than the books if I remember and let it slide
I only remember reading one of those books as a kid, "Wayside School is Falling Down" and for the life of me I thought I had hallucinated that entire thing because my prepubescent brain had no idea what the fuck was going on in any of the chapters
Having a side character get sent home everyday would be a hilarious gag too. Even if the focus of the episode is on totally unrelated characters there could be a consistent bit of “oh yeah Todd got sent home”. It could even become a visual gag with him being gone from his seat at the middle point or end of an episode. Than having an episode where the entire class tries to help him stay in class the whole day, or an episode following him home after school (what’s the kindergarten bus like? How does Todd keep up with his school work? What’s does his parents think?) would be a cool subversion of the gag.
There's actually another animated adaptation from Canada that came out in 2011 based off the book Scaredy Squirrel, and all you need to know is it's nothing like the actual book, which isn't surprising that much, also the show is pretty bad tbh, which also isn't surprising
Considering how much Nelvana (The studio behind this show and many other shows from Canada) fumbled the ball with Wayside, I think that the next company who adapts the books should look to this adaptation as what not to do. Hopefully by now, Nelvana's rights to adapt Wayside probably expired given it's been a decade and a half since the show's last episode.
it's so funny you mention the "mean-spirited" thing because I've been editing on the Qualitipedia for a bit and jesus CHRIST they have no idea that characters in TV shows are not real people
I remember reading the books and watching the show. I liked both though it might be because I have different tastes and I will never understand why the teacher hated Todd so much
I remember the show. It was OK. Not good, not bad, just OK. I do remember being annoyed by some of the quirkiness tho There's one piece of trivia however. The PTBR Wikipedia page of the show was a mess, to the point of saying a 3rd, 4th and 5th season existed, with a movie and a lot of fake information like the principal passing away, time travel and new students. When I've noticed it back in 2017, I've reported the Heck out of it and now the page is gone
they could have had Todd be the Kenny character but for kids. Instead of killing Kenny they would be sending Todd home. Fun little running gag. But nooooooooo we couldn't play around with that idea. Honestly going off of the books Maurecia would have been a better protag. Could have it where each episode focusses on her "trying a new flavor" of kid and showing off that kids quirks. Start the episode with her trying that kid's ice cream, wondering why it tastes like that, then learning more about the kid. Doesn't have to strictly follow that formula but it would be a good way to manage a large cast. Final episode of that season would be about her flavor and her needing to learn a lesson about how even if you can't see your own worth you still have worth or something like that.
Listen this show also holds something I can never let go of. It's the Principle saying "Gazebo", I am not joking my brother and I have been quoting how he says it for 15+ years. Every time we see one or one is mentioned it's like a trigger one of us to do it.
For years I was like "what the hell was the name of that show with the really tall school where the kid got sent home everyday early on the kindergarten bus where the only episode I remember was the ghost of a goldfish???" And now I remember, thank you 😂❤
That "Weird Attachment Series" for me is definitely Cookie Run. I've stopped playing the games, but I cannot deny the impact that the world & characters have had on me creatively.
It's one thing if the butt monkey of a show acts in such a way that draws their misfortune, but I hate it if the character is the nicest person/straight man whose punishment comes from trying to do the right thing or being the voice of reason. That's what Wayside and coincidentally a lot of shows in that era did and I couldn't stand it. I felt so bad for Todd constantly getting dunked on by the world around him. Coupled with the fact one of his main traits was frequently getting sent home early for trying to help and the girl who has a crush on Todd shows her affection by full-on punching him drove me insane.
I watched the ws movie so many times that i can recall every animation error. You only got to the tip of the ice Berg what you spotted. Several scenes where Dana's glasses disapears, floating heads in crowd shots . Hair changing colors. Etc
YES, I was in elementary school and we had to read those books back in the day. Regardless of how iffy of an adaptation of the cartoon series was, that freaking theme song is what made me watch it more than I care to admit 😂 Oddly, it popped up on my RUclips recommended a couple of months ago. Watched a few episodes and meh, it was so random that I got a couple of laughs and moved on with my life...until your video just appeared on my screen lol
I swear to god, I love this guy, I watch him on and off makes great videos, well researched, very entertaining, truly quality content and this video in particular makes me feel very seen as I have not met anyone who knows about these books but Jesus Christ if I get flash-banged by a new avatar ONE MORE TIME I am going to lose it
All I remember is I loved Myron’s voice in the show. I have always been a huge fan of interesting voices, so his stood out to me. Then I heard his voice again in the movie Coraline and I was so excited to hear it in a better roll (Coraline’s friend, Wybie) Great voice for animation! I can’t remember anything else about Wayside lmao
Sad thing is, if this were from DiC Entertainment, it being THIS BAD with animation that poor would just be a regular average Tuesday for them. I mean, DiC made crap like Hammerman, The Get Along Gang, The Wacky World of Tex Avery & the New Kids of the Block cartoon, their standards were far lower than Nelvana's by a *WIDE* margin. And this is from someone who is a fan of their Mario & Sonic cartoons.
For a second I thought you were going to be talking about that wayside story remake. Which is odd! Then I got reminded of the books that were read aloud to use in school and went: wait is there a show for that??
As a person who never read the book, I'm absolutely sure without reading it you cannot ever understand just how bad this really is. You can know it's bad but not how bad until you know what it could've been.
The movie and show of Wayside was basically about the only smart person with common sense being put in a school that was surrounded by deranged idiots and morons in a nutshell when you think about it. It’s no wonder the books were more tolerable and fun to check out.
Having never read the books, but being a Canadian who would catch this show on the regular, I definitely understand its flaws and why it just wasn't interesting. Another casualty of Canadian broadcasting laws where to meet the percentages of Canadian content on any channel these things were pumped out like a factory line. At the same time as this "adaptation" where My Gym Partner is a Monkey and a George of the Jungle animated show, all three of which just sort of recycled the same sorts of ideas and characters. My Gym Partner is a Monkey is pretty much a 1-1 carbon copy in terms of theme, the straight man character, etc. And these sorts of things always came in waves based on what was finding popularity at the time. Another of the "waves" had Totally Spies and Marvin Mystery. And then there was some of the worst like when Rugrats was the big name to be and there were a bunch trying to copy the Kuspo style like What's With Andy. There are gems in the rough with it, like Reboot in the first wave of 3D animation in the early 2000s, and the adaptation of the comic Cybersix. But yeah, so many absolute trashfires that sprouted from strict Canadian broadcast law encouraging cheap in and out animation to fill a quota rather than to actually create something meaningful.
Ah Canadian broadcast percentage laws, done to prevent American products from overtaking all media. Good idea in theory, as Canadian artists should have a decent chance for success in their own country, but the same laws that spawned 6Teen and Total Drama also spawned Johnny Test and The Day My Butt Went Psycho. Gotta take the bad with the good!
Listen, if they wanted a character that acted as the New Kid. Why not go with Allison? She would’ve acted as a much better main character than Todd! She was the only normal kid in a classroom full of Odd Balls, even Todd had his own quirk in that he always left early on the Kindergarten Bus.
The funniest thing is, the books manage to pull off "fish out of water straight man who doesn't understand how Wayside works" character way better than the movie. That's the personality of Sue, the main character of the "Sideways Arithmetic from Wayside School" spinoff series, which is a bunch of unintuitive math puzzles. I haven't read the books in years, but I remember finding her pretty funny when I did.
I had a love/hate relationship with this show. I remember it fondly and wished there was more, but even when watching and enjoying it I was upset deep down that it felt nothing like the books and didn’t keep my favorite things at all. But because it was the only adaptation I got, it felt worth it because something was better than nothing, right? Maybe not… 😅 Now I have a lot of nostalgia for it, and lots of cringe about it too. It’s a complicated case and I feel compelled to defend the idea of it, but not out of any actual respect for what it was lol
As a fellow Canadian, I remember watching Wayside everytime I came home from school, I didn't know it was based on a series of books so can't say if it's a good adaption or not, but even as a kid I was confused on why Mrs Jewels sent Todd home early for the stupidest of reasons, like forgetting to sign the free pink slip he got at the end of the aquarium episode, overall I liked this show, I preferred this over SideKick due to the kid characters being too mean-spirited to each other.
Don’t get me started on sidekick. I use to watch it and eventually forgot about it’s existence for years. I had a dream about it and was disappointed when I found out the show actually existed.
I’m equal parts sad and relieved that my favorite character in the books didn’t get adapted. Dameon was probably the best written teacher’s pet in that he wasn’t a suck up or anything; he just genuinely loved his teacher in a very non-creepy way. It was also a great lesson about how love isn’t just romantic or in a limited quantity; you aren’t limited to loving a certain amount of people in a certain way. In fact, the more love you give, the more love you receive in turn.
While Just Stop was lukewarmly praising the Wayside film for doing a subversion where a normal kid is sent to a school with wacky rules, I was remembering that My Gym Partner's a Monkey exists. Not saying that was a good show either, but Wayside only just barely came out before it so it doesn't even share long term originality.
The only thing I remember from this book series is a moment where the principal makes a rule that if you're walking up the stairs you walk on the right side and walking down the stairs you walk on the left side. Then he got mad when everyone ran into each other 😂
Ah the 00s where women harassing and abusing men in cartoons was never taken seriously, or worse, played as comedy. It could almost be considered a staple of the era.
The worst thing was that I saw this when I was very young (I watched a lot of times the pilot movie that I had on DVD) my criteria was not so analytical to see this, not even reaching to understand that this was an adaptation of some books, now that I matured and researched better I have more reasoning to understand that this was really VERY far from the original material.
I remember reading one of the books as a kid and they had a chapter just called Miss Zarves and when it got to that chapter it was one page with something like "There is no Miss Zarves" and I was pissed I remember another one of them actually DID have Miss Zarves tho so that was cool
DUUUDE... i cannot give enough props to this video thank you for covering that hellscape of a show man I remember watching this show with my little brother years ago absolutely binging it and hating maurecia so fucking much 😭 I'd literally wiped this show from my memory til now, was quite literally convinced i was one of the only few who even knew it existed
This is legitimately the only time I’ve ever heard someone else talk about wayside school AT ALL. I have felt for years that I was the only person ever who actually read this freaking amazing book series and I’m so happy to have learned you did too!!
It still surprises me that there are people that actually dislike this show or think it’s bad. I’ve watched it with my friends and we all find it to be pretty good and charming. We like all the characters a lot and make jokes about the show somewhat often. I just don’t really see how it’s a *bad* show.
my only exposure of wayside as a kid was my school playing the show, only thing i remember is the trash compactor scene and the dumbass "girl bullies boy" trope
Dude I was so sad when it did not live up to the book, I remember when we read that in elementary school and my man that shit was the bomb. Namely my favorite part about that was when that one teacher who was a sub, was willing to throw a baby down to its death but when she read it's mind found out that it was just a lovable little shit and because of the feelings that that kid had in that moment completely changed from the evil bastard to a redeemable person. Like there is no good reason for there to be a character that turns from bad to good like that, but apparently the author felt like love was the answer to everything and I have to admit that is pretty admirable.
As well that part where they had students walking on the right side when they were going up, and on the left side when they were going down, put me off as a kid and I'm not a smart kid but in that moment I was like "bruh ain't people going to run into each other though?
Honestly the show really isn’t that bad if you didn’t read the book, since I remember enjoying a few episodes of this series when it started airing on nick.🐱
well the book doesn't seems bad, but the series are does, cause this is by which person it was directed, not the best cartoon ever, when the promo of that cartoon were appearing, i though it's exiting, but it turned out not very smart, even Ricky Sprocket didn't turned out perfect, cause his parents were taking him as someone selfish, his sister dislikes him by unknown reason, he even had such a rival at the studio, and his boss are so rough, rude, sassy, and not so fair, and Todd been putted in the school where so much kids aren't that smart, mostly his classmates and teacher with whos he's end up to stuck with, and their principal doesn't memorizing any names of any of the students whos goes in his school, he's not so genius and he's still owned the school which he does not deserve as what a level his intelect are, he's also really immature, well Todd doesn't know so much well either, and he seems like overwatched some silly cartoons with some pushy misions, yes even he's not perfect, and Maurecia whom fell in love with him to easily can be much worse, she's not a true tomboy, she doesn't realizes that Todd aren't really her boyfriend, as they've never been dating, never had kissing, and she punches him without realizing that is not good to do that, when she's stopped hitting him she's nearly suceed to conquer his love, but then she's ruined when she though like Dana suggested her to knock him harder, and she weren't letting the boys to go to their toilets, but she didn't the same with somebody of her gender, because she's a sexist after all, i'm glad that Louis aren't that bad, he's the only one whom turned out to be better in the series.
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@@KapustaNicholaiis English your second language?
I LOVED this show as a young kid, I'm ngl i personally had a crush in the rollar blade girl and the teacher and loved the concept of how the school was built That being said its wild to see pieces of the show as an adult, i still don't exactly think its bad but its definitely not as good as i remember, i never knew it had books and honestly they seem really good, i really wanna have kids eventually and books like these are DEFINITELY ones i wanna share with them, good art, interesting characters, the fact the author doesnt treat kids as stupid etc, hell i might even check it out as an adult on my own
I saw the pilot and i still haven't read any of the books, and I have seen clips of the show but I never really liked it so Ive never really looked into it that much but think as its own property, the wayside pilot had a lot of fun with itself and has pretty good comedic timing. I feel like if this dude wasn't comparing the pilot to the books so much and nitt picking every little minor gripe that would never really hinder your enjoyment of the film. this dudes biassed and really good at whining and screaming at his microphone, trying to find as much dirt on this pilot from 2007. When This guy started flipping out over some technical errors during animation production It felt so out of touch because he said that you could "smell how low the budget is on this movie" is just so untrue, I like how spastic and all over the place the art direction is and I think the color pallets is so nice and vibrant, the backgrounds look really good for a lot of segments to me. I just think this guy just has shit taste honestly
There is someting that increasingly bothers me about he show's artstyle. You see,I look at it and I could swear I've seen it before which means that either I did watch Wayside once or twice then forgot or that the style chosen is a bit... Generic? And usually I wouldn't mind THAT much but in contrast to the book illustrations this video is showing it just bothers me so much Like the book seems to have a solid,friendly,down to earth style. Take Ms. Jules for example,the short black hair,the style of clothing that looks inviting yet professional,hell I'd dare to say she looks like a teacher I used to have. But then you have the show like LONG CURLY *PINK* HAIR and is just... Why tho?
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Ngl this seems super shady
Why?
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I have no idea why they chose Todd for the main character, much less for the Straight Man archetype. A much better choice for that would have been Benjamin/Mark. Introduced in the second book. Especially since he himself was already a transfer student, and often played a straight man. His only gimmick was that everyone thought his name was Mark Miller, when it was actually Benjamin Nushmut. A very simple and rather boring gimmick compared to the other students. So, he would have been a MUCH BETTER choice for the straight man, fish out of water archetype they wanted.
Yeah, and the writers totally could have taken that concept up to eleven in a similar way to that Handa-Kun manga, where misinformation about Handa spreads like wildfire to the point where everybody is too intimidated to get to know the REAL Handa when really, he's just a regular dude who thinks everyone hates him due to how distant they all seem to be with him.
Imagine if the Wayside show writers did something like that with the book's world logic. Everyone gets these wild ideas about Ben's backstory, maybe even to the point where the teachers are confused/concerned, and they never stop to think that maybe they should just stop and ask Ben about himself. And that could lead to Ben getting into wacky situations because people ASSUME one thing about him when really it's the opposite.
There also Allison who is the most rationally-minded of all the kids in Mrs. Jewls' class or Sue from the Sideways Arithmetic series who's also a new student they could've used.
@@frankielovejoy9928 Handa-kun mention!!!
@@frankielovejoy9928 Handa was irritating as hell though. I loved Barakamon so I watched it, but should have just skipped it.
@@BumpBobLooly I second Allison. One of the more fleshed-out kids in the books, who sees through the silliness around her but learns to accept it.
It was over the moment they decided to have a main character.
It was *double* over the moment they decided to make the main character *the kid whose entire deal is that he gets sent home early every single day.*
Benjamin Nushmutt or Allison would’ve made better Main Characters.
@@ObservingPaul678Benjamin nushmutt would be perfect for main character
If you want to have a normal straight man protagonist in a wacky world, make them boring. Weirdly boring and bland to the point that it's not normal. Dress in beige and their favorite food is plain oatmeal. Make them their own flavor of weird that balances well with the tone of the show.
That sounds like Emmett from the lego movie
@@bethanyflores8248 And there's a reason why Emmet worked as well as he did. You understand my vision.
My first thought was Larry, the normal type gym leader from Pokemon Scarlet and Violet, and how popular that character turned out to be. And it was mostly because we was just a normal office worker-type guy who happened to be a gym leader and elite four member, the juxtaposition was great.
Another example would be Shinpachi from Gintama. He's so ordinary and bland the only defining feature is his glasses, and the show makes clever jokes around him
TODD STRANGE
Terrible adaptation, fire as fuck theme song though
THE LIGHTS GO OFF THE WORLD FLIPS UPSIDE DOWN 🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥
Was ABOUT TO SAY!!!
that was only good thing about it, i remember watching this, i think i liked tormenting myself, this show was bad, i wish i knew about the books they look good
@@kyotheman69
Same, it wasn’t until my teenage years that I knew it even was an adaptation. None of the bookstores I went to ever sold it.
@@Furbtastic817 I BROUGHT THE PARTY TO TOWN!
Meanwhile Holes, which was by the same author was the PERFECT adaptation.
I LOVED THAG MOVIE.
Wait, they were both written by the same person!?!?
I know, right? I was baffled when I found out that the author wrote both books.
Guys, this is mentioned in the first MINUTES of the video.
I don't think the claim that it displaced Wayside as Louis Sachar's most-known work is accurate, though. I've never even heard of Holes, and I certainly knew about Wayside before seeing this video.
The best Wayside adaptation is actually Ned's Declassified. Think about it. Character's like Claire Sawyer, Future Lawyer, Coconut Head, and the dozens of other weird kids we see would be perfect for Wayside. Gordy is basically the exact same character as Luis, and the idea of exaggerating the normal problems and logic kids face fir comedic effect is the thesis statement of that show. As someone who grew up with the books and with that show, it is absolutely the best unofficial adaptation we could get.
Scott Fellows is also just a great producer (I’ll even forgive him for Johnny Test)
"Are there any pieces of media you feel... *weirdly* attracted to...?"
That's a *very* dangerous question to ask on the internet.
I feel like "My Gym Partner's a Monkey" does that "fish out of water" trope better.
It was airing at the same time as Wayside too
Two shows about a red headed boy straightman character getting transferred to a wacky weird school. I never noticed the similarities until now
@@dannydamnmendez It's so funny that they were airing side by side because I for some reason never acknowledged the existence of Wayside until some other guy ranted about it on the internet like a decade-ish ago. Years before Just Stop did. Then I watched Just Stop's video. And now we are here.
@@maddiemcnugget1076it was probably Mr enter
Gym Partner was a better show, don't ruin my childhood guys.😩
The scene where Principal Kidswatter having a hard time fitting that square donut in a cup from the episode where every round objects in Wayside School turned into Minecraft-esque cubes engraved in my mind. That Principal is maybe goofy, but he definitely has the spirit as if he's the reverse Mr. Crocker.
And then he willed everything into being round again, one by one.
At least, Wayside tried to capture the spirit and wacky nature of the books.
Jem and The Holograms couldn't even get the basic esthetic and tone of the original source material down correctly.
I only saw the NC review of Jem and I TOTALLY understand, it feels like watching The Cheetah Girls if they weren't even likable 😡😡😡
I dont wanna be that fuy but its spelled 'assthathik'
I completely forgot about the movie and was confused for a sec
I remember that movie! My mom watched it as a kid and I watched all the episodes on a streaming service and was excited to see the movie to see…Garbage
I kinda follows the Velma principal or the Banjo Kazooie Nuts N Bolts principal of trying to adapt something while constantly being self deprecating and almost ashamed of being associated with what it's trying to adapt.
Weirdly one way to fix this show while keeping Todd as a protagonist but keeping the anthology style of the books, just make the show like Tales From The Crypt. Todd is older and is telling some nebulous audience (probably kids) about the weird things that happened at Wayside.
That would have been so cool.
I LOVE THIS
That would be much better
I watched Wayside as a kid, but it was always a "take it or leave it" sorta show. Unmemorable, juvenile, a footnote in Nick's long list of forgotten shows. I knew of the books, but I didn't like them at all. I guess the show is a bad adaptation, but I personally don't have enough stake in the series to care.
It’s not a nicktoon, it’s from Teletoon/owned by Nelvana. Nick just aired it
@@Brewart2012And premiered some of the episodes before Teletoon
@@nyrvajeudy394and marketed it as a nicktoon from 2007-2008 (just like Pelswick from 2000-2001)
I remember wishing that there was an episode of Wayside where Todd's parents showed up to chew out Mrs. Jewels about sending Todd home early everyday and effecting his education (especially after that episode where Todd couldn't go on the "field trip" because the permission slip was given out *AFTER* Todd was sent home early.).
Like, surely his parents got fed up with him being the only one ever sent home early so frequently.
My thoughts exactly. I too wish there was an episode like that.
I'm surprised you never mentioned that Todd in the pilot is voiced by Michael Cera
What if Todd in the Wayside series was more like Scott Pilgrim? IDK I haven't read the books but it sounds interesting
WHAT
@@MRNentertainment7122he's the same as in the anime but with cockyness and extraversion multiplied by x10
Nooo!! NO FUCKIN' WAY!!!!!!!
He looks like Comic Scott too I’m
I remember thinking that Wayside was the second best show, right behind johnny test. Then i watched gravity falls and realized that everything i was watching before then was garbage.
You're still going to hell for thinking they were even good at all.
@@idkany293 Christ man I was like 6
Wild that one of the worst shows ever made you realize that wayside and johnny test weren't that good
@@SnoFitzroy ragebait used to be somewhat believable, what happened man
@djdylan1987 yea ik it was a joke. tbh i kind of liked them too as a kid but now that I'm grown up, well things do change
The only thing i remember from this adaptation was the stupid "Girl bullies Boy cause she has crush on him!!!" Thing i cannot stand in old cartoons. Why could they just make her... NOT ABUSE HIM????
My guess is that they are playing on the idea that Boys tease and mess with girls because they secretly like them, only the roles are reversed.
Also, to be fair, it's not like this idea hasn't been done before or since. There is a reason they call it "The Tsundere Trope."
female teacher torments him as well
It's a Tsundere I hate Tsundere's they suck in like every piece of media to me
The one time it actually worked naturally was with Helga in Hey Arnold.
@@kermitgotthesickkicks4265 natsuki is pretty cool and sometimes it can be done well but... yeah most of the time they're awful
Here's a bit of Trivia: In the pilot movie, Todd was voiced by Michael Cera of "Arrested Development" and "Scott Pilgrim" fame.
And Mrs. Jewls is Kathy Najimy, aka Peggy Hill. HO YEAH!
No way you missed out on Superbad
I think a cool idea would be Lewis being a effectively older version of todd in a way, a straight man to the rest of wayside's craziness, but in a different way than todd, instead of actively trying to fix things he instead just goes along with it while making sure things go smoothly. Maybe a flashback epsiode of a younger lewis trying to make things go smoother at wayside, showing a difference from how todd and lewis handled things.
I work at a library in a small-ish city in Northern Ireland, and lemme tell you: the Wayside series is STILL surprisingly popular with kids. We have around 2 copies of each book in our stock and we just can't keep them on our shelves. If I return 1 during my shift by the next day It's almost always been rented out. I think Wayside, Dogman and either Beast Quest or the Rainbow Magic series are our most popular kids books right now. It's so cool to see new generations picking up my childhood favs!
I have a ton of Beast Quest books and I for some reason never read them
Bro the thing I hated about wayside was how Todd was treated I would always feel upset and angry at Mrs.Jewel for putting him on the kindergarten bus for doing nothing wrong or trying to explain a situation
Mrs. Jewels is without a doubt one of my most hated characters in Animation.
So, this would be like if The Magic School Bus focused primarily on Phoebe or Arnold at the expense of everyone else, including Miss Frizzle? And the rest of the cast was Flanderized?
Yes.
The worst part is, they decided to make Todd the generic straight-man instead of Benjamin. If they had to have a generic straight-man, Benjamin is the only student who at least kind of fits the bill. Everyone else at Wayside hardly ever even notices anything about it being weird.
0:15 That's a hell of a jump from: "I think i might be gay." To "HELP ME HIDE THE BODY!"
It's not THAT extreme when you think about it!
Oh, this show!!!
Man, I used to love this show as a little kid, I always stood up and danced during it's intro. My favorite characters were two glasses kids- a girl and a curly boy, but I don't remember their names now.
I watched an episode of it a year ago, just for nostalgia sake and the animation was really bad, interesting how I never noticed that back then.
The hand-drawn in the movie and Season 1 was pretty mediocre too
Dana and Myron?
We were all young naive kids back then, plus our memories aren’t the same as the ones they were back then. Our memories tends to twist it a bit to make it look better than it actually was.
is it a bad adaptation? sure..
is it a bad show? nah, i liked it actually
is it a perfect show? eh, it has its ups and downs..
is it the worst adaptation? no.. CW and Netflix are already competing in that category
compared to books oh by far one the worse out there, its true insult to them. CW just took certain media turn them in dramas, Netflix yeah do pretty bad especially anime oh god.
@@kyotheman69 Somebody obviously hasn't watched Castlevania and Cyberpunk Edgerunners.
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@@Nicky2414 not all the adaptations are bad (last kids on earth is peak) but many are
@@718jefOh yeah, I understand that. Not every adaptation is gonna hit it out of the park. However, you can't just simply disregard all the good adaptations and say that the entire library is bad. That's just ignorant.
Isn't show Todd basically the character Benjamin Nushmutt from the the second book? The new kid who is put off by the weirdness of the school (if I remember correctly)?
Actually, interesting thing there: I’d meant to bring up Benjamin in relation to Todd at some point, but I never did since, in the end, he’s more an inverse of that trope than anything resembling it. It’s not that he’s put off by the weirdness. It’s that he alone thinks HE’S weird and will be seen as such if he reveals his real name (after being introduced as Mark Miller by Mrs Jewls). Then, near the end of the book, after multiple chapters trying and failing to come clean, he actually does, and the funny thing is that nobody even cares, since everyone at Wayside is weird, so he fits right in with the rest of the class. He’s not a fish out of water or a straight man. Just a guy who’s self conscious about things that don’t matter nearly as much as he thinks!
@@JustStop Would still make for a better straight man: a character too afraid to be perceived as weird learns that it's okay to be weird and embrace his weirdness
1:06 I swear he was about to say “For those who don’t know what *books* are…” and was prepared for a funny joke. Oh well 😅
Ngl I was gonna do that, but I realized I did that exact kind of joke at the start of my Disney Sequels ranking video, so i didn’t wanna be repetitive lol
The theme song genuinely is one of the best theme songs in a cartoon ever. But yeah as a Wayside kid watching the show was disappointing, and even though I remember a time I used to record and watch all the episodes, I genuinely can't recall what most of them were about.
I saw the pilot episode a few months ago knowing nothing about the books and enjoyed it.
Went to watch the first episode and it immediately felt off so I turned it off.
Knowing about the books makes it worse but even on it's own merit the show felt bad.
On that note, why are shows so drastically different from a pilot? Don't say "Budget", I am talking about feel and tone.
47:20 that was exactly what I hoped the show would be. "Whacky of the week" and either learning to embrace it, fix it, or use it to his advantage.
I don't know about the differences, but my guess is that a pilot shows the audience if it has the potential to have a TV series. And when the pilot got green lit to become a series sometimes there are some tweaks, likely ordered from the channel where the show aired or feedback given from the audiences. But for Wayside, I don't know about that so you're just gonna take it with a grain of salt because that's all I know about pilot shows. 😅
I used to watch this as a kid (yes I'm Canadian) and I loved it, I thought it was hilarious the principal was my favourite, I didn't know at the time it was based on a book series so there was nothing to compare it to, I found it funny that todd was basically living a hell of weird and strange that was normal to everyone else
1:21 I remember watching Dinosaur Office on the 3DS video application way back when. Good times.
OMG SAME!!!!
It’s a horrible adaptation but I actually like the show. Myron’s song gets stuck in my head every so often.
the only part of wayside i can remember is a short story about a girl whos transferring and really nervous about her first day. She walks into school to find absolutely nobody there. turns out it was just saturday
Oh you’re thinking of Jenny from the first book and she wasn’t a transfer student.
This was me when I watched the Nickelodeon adaptation of Mr. Lemoncello's Library. I absolutely HATED that they just didn't follow the story of the book _at all_ and just turned it into a generic Halloween movie(when the original book had nothing to do with Halloween).
Makes sense
Ok, I’m glad I’m not the only one who HATED this show. It’s the same reason I could never love Everybody Hates Chris. Call me a sucker, but I like shows where the main character isn’t constantly the butt of an infuriating joke
I don't really care about EHC (there are some funny moments), but I agree with you, though I personally don't mind Wayside (I wish it was better though)
EHC at least is the creator Chris Rock himself making fun of himself and using exaggeration to subvert expectations. And he never actively tries to make it seem like it’s supposed to be endearing or good when he’s mistreated but rather “that’s life and we move forward”. It’s a sense of realism that you can’t actively solve every issue or fight back all the time or fix every bad condition so here’s what you can do instead. And everybody fits in his world and even the characters that are supposed to just be archetypes or tropes end up being so beloved he brought them back with more personality.
But goddamn Wayside just completely feels pointless compared to the books, it just makes decisions for the sake of making decisions with no real reason or attempt a joke. It’s like someone blasting just punchlines at you. I thought the show as a stand-alone was fine but with the source material in mind, it didn’t really even try. It didn’t do anything in the first part I talked about.
I think the biggest sin of the adaptation is that it's SO mediocre.
Like, at least terrible adaptations of famous works will make people reinforce why they love the source material so much. I'm sure The Last Airbender and Dragon Ball Evolution being average works would've mean death for the franchises since people will just watch it and be over with them.
With mediocre adaptations, they're just something people throw away once consumed because there's just nothing that make them want more.
To wit, it took years for Wayside to get a fourth book. Arguably because the mediocre adaptation just gave the author no motivation from fans to continue the books. Meanwhile, I can see how an adaptation becoming horrible will make the author quickly make the fourth book just to spite the adaptation and show what Wayside is truly about.
What's baffling here is the many choices for the characters. As Mr. Enter brings up the best, Benjamin would've been the ideal everyman, but apparently, Todd, whose adaptation is everything but cheerful, ends up becoming the scapegoat character. And there are also Allison and Myron, the latter is just... What?
I get adaptations need to be pragmatic about the characters, but it's clear this adaptation failed to make me remember most of the minor characters, minus Shari, who's the least ruined character in the adaptation. In fact, as Mr. Enter said, she's the only character the show got right, and considering her gimmick, that's not a tall order.
Fun Fact: I once saw a book-accurate fanart of Sharie (the book name of Shari), and boy, the snowcoat is better than the raincoat.
Also, we need a comic book adaptation of the books. Pictures speak louder than words, after all.
Also, the saddest thing here is that Just Stop downright validated Mr. Enter's thoughts on the show. Not because I disagree with Mr. Enter, but because there are those who think Mr. Enter was being unfair, only for a more optimistic reviewer to give the same but harsher reviews to the shows he panned.
Yeah the spite thing by the OG authors of a bad adaptation is 100% a thing. Toriyama came back to writing Dragon Ball specifically because he loathed Dragon Ball Evolution, which is fair. DBE ended up saving the entire franchise by being so bad.
Wayside was an amazing show in my eyes, but I didn’t know it was a book until now.
That shows how young you are.
As a show on its own, Todd just gets tortured every episode for no reason
I remember reading wayside quite a bit in elementary. I'm 20 now btw.
@@DangerDan64I read wayside and didn’t know about the show for a while 💀
@@DangerDan64 if they were born in 2011, they could be 13
Oh thank you thank you thank you THANK YOU! I have been looking for others who share this same opinion! I read the books in elementary school, and when I realized this show was supposed to be the same series it was irritating that nothing at all was faithful to the book series (especially their portrayal of Dana!)! I long for an animated movie or maybe new show that is 💯% more faithful than this show
What if Tim Burton tried? IDK he could do something weird enough
I feel like all RUclipsrs who discuss this show share this opinion. Either that or all videos I've seen of this show are from creators who hold this opinion. In fact, this comment section is the first time I'm seeing comments of people enjoying the show and that just proves how young the internet commenters are getting. Aaaa!
@@maddiemcnugget1076 What's wrong with that?
This is lowkey how I felt about reading the Big Nate Book series and then seeing the Nick show trailers drop. Then I remembered the comics can be a lot more wackier than the books if I remember and let it slide
Personally, I couldn't stand the Big Nate cartoon. It felt more generically wacky grossout, rather than the vibe that the books and comic put out.
I only remember reading one of those books as a kid, "Wayside School is Falling Down" and for the life of me I thought I had hallucinated that entire thing because my prepubescent brain had no idea what the fuck was going on in any of the chapters
*I'm 24 years old still watching this cartoon, anyone like me*
Having a side character get sent home everyday would be a hilarious gag too. Even if the focus of the episode is on totally unrelated characters there could be a consistent bit of “oh yeah Todd got sent home”. It could even become a visual gag with him being gone from his seat at the middle point or end of an episode. Than having an episode where the entire class tries to help him stay in class the whole day, or an episode following him home after school (what’s the kindergarten bus like? How does Todd keep up with his school work? What’s does his parents think?) would be a cool subversion of the gag.
I think there was an episode where he almost succeeded on not getting sent home early but then the teacher just makes him do that for some reason
There's actually another animated adaptation from Canada that came out in 2011 based off the book Scaredy Squirrel, and all you need to know is it's nothing like the actual book, which isn't surprising that much, also the show is pretty bad tbh, which also isn't surprising
Literally everything about that show was bad. The characters, everyone.
@@okjeffy6581true
I actually read the book for that before the show.
How did hell did they fumble so hard? /_\
I like the show, I just hate the gross out jokes
Considering how much Nelvana (The studio behind this show and many other shows from Canada) fumbled the ball with Wayside, I think that the next company who adapts the books should look to this adaptation as what not to do. Hopefully by now, Nelvana's rights to adapt Wayside probably expired given it's been a decade and a half since the show's last episode.
I think they should make a new show made by titmouse like the Harriet the spy type show
Is it me, or is todd seem like a prototype Lincoln from loud house in the show version?
I was thinking more about Cody from Total Drama personally. Mostly because of the tooth gap and the show's art style tbh
it's so funny you mention the "mean-spirited" thing because I've been editing on the Qualitipedia for a bit and jesus CHRIST they have no idea that characters in TV shows are not real people
This show came out in the mid 2000 (2005 I think), but because it’s in widescreen HD I was convinced it came out later than that.
And the new thing is….. Pongo!
2:51 As someone who lives in Missouri, I can relate to the constant tornado warnings
Agreed. There’s no escaping em in the Ok state 😅
Amen. Brother😊
I have one media that I feel weirded attracted to!
It’s called “kinds of kindness!”
It’s a movie about manipulation!
It’s a WEIRD movie!
That was released recently, right?
I remember reading the books and watching the show. I liked both though it might be because I have different tastes and I will never understand why the teacher hated Todd so much
I remember the show. It was OK. Not good, not bad, just OK. I do remember being annoyed by some of the quirkiness tho
There's one piece of trivia however. The PTBR Wikipedia page of the show was a mess, to the point of saying a 3rd, 4th and 5th season existed, with a movie and a lot of fake information like the principal passing away, time travel and new students. When I've noticed it back in 2017, I've reported the Heck out of it and now the page is gone
Pure fanon wiki madness at play I see!
they could have had Todd be the Kenny character but for kids. Instead of killing Kenny they would be sending Todd home. Fun little running gag. But nooooooooo we couldn't play around with that idea.
Honestly going off of the books Maurecia would have been a better protag. Could have it where each episode focusses on her "trying a new flavor" of kid and showing off that kids quirks. Start the episode with her trying that kid's ice cream, wondering why it tastes like that, then learning more about the kid. Doesn't have to strictly follow that formula but it would be a good way to manage a large cast. Final episode of that season would be about her flavor and her needing to learn a lesson about how even if you can't see your own worth you still have worth or something like that.
Listen this show also holds something I can never let go of. It's the Principle saying "Gazebo", I am not joking my brother and I have been quoting how he says it for 15+ years. Every time we see one or one is mentioned it's like a trigger one of us to do it.
Chat how many aura points did I lose when I BEGGED my teacher to let us watch this during movie day in third grade and everyone hated it 😔😔😔
DINOSAUR OFFICE MENTION!!!!
The 3DS GOAT!
I’M CRAAAAAAIG!!
ROAAAAAAR!!!!
Timestamp?
Alrighty then, guess I'll just grab something 'round here.
Wayside more like Waydown, am I right
MORE LIKE WAYDUMB!!! HAHAHA!!! HAVE A ROTTEN DAY!!! /j
@@osmm8483 Waystupid
Nah Wayup
mute up
GET OUT
So, basically this show was the Nickelodeon equivalent of My Gym Partner's A Monkey.
Man, cartoons back in the day really liked the "main character who suffers for existing" trope.
Yep.
For years I was like "what the hell was the name of that show with the really tall school where the kid got sent home everyday early on the kindergarten bus where the only episode I remember was the ghost of a goldfish???" And now I remember, thank you 😂❤
That "Weird Attachment Series" for me is definitely Cookie Run. I've stopped playing the games, but I cannot deny the impact that the world & characters have had on me creatively.
It's one thing if the butt monkey of a show acts in such a way that draws their misfortune, but I hate it if the character is the nicest person/straight man whose punishment comes from trying to do the right thing or being the voice of reason. That's what Wayside and coincidentally a lot of shows in that era did and I couldn't stand it. I felt so bad for Todd constantly getting dunked on by the world around him. Coupled with the fact one of his main traits was frequently getting sent home early for trying to help and the girl who has a crush on Todd shows her affection by full-on punching him drove me insane.
I watched the ws movie so many times that i can recall every animation error. You only got to the tip of the ice Berg what you spotted. Several scenes where Dana's glasses disapears, floating heads in crowd shots . Hair changing colors. Etc
YES, I was in elementary school and we had to read those books back in the day. Regardless of how iffy of an adaptation of the cartoon series was, that freaking theme song is what made me watch it more than I care to admit 😂 Oddly, it popped up on my RUclips recommended a couple of months ago. Watched a few episodes and meh, it was so random that I got a couple of laughs and moved on with my life...until your video just appeared on my screen lol
I keep forgetting Wayside even had a TV movie pilot and show!
You are literally everywhere I go. I keep on seeing you on nearly every single RUclips video I watch-
I swear to god, I love this guy, I watch him on and off makes great videos, well researched, very entertaining, truly quality content and this video in particular makes me feel very seen as I have not met anyone who knows about these books but Jesus Christ if I get flash-banged by a new avatar ONE MORE TIME I am going to lose it
All I remember is I loved Myron’s voice in the show. I have always been a huge fan of interesting voices, so his stood out to me.
Then I heard his voice again in the movie Coraline and I was so excited to hear it in a better roll (Coraline’s friend, Wybie) Great voice for animation!
I can’t remember anything else about Wayside lmao
haven't watched it in years but I can still perfectly hear his and especially principal kitswatter's voice
This is how I learned Myron and Wybie have the same voice actor. What.
Sad thing is, if this were from DiC Entertainment, it being THIS BAD with animation that poor would just be a regular average Tuesday for them. I mean, DiC made crap like Hammerman, The Get Along Gang, The Wacky World of Tex Avery & the New Kids of the Block cartoon, their standards were far lower than Nelvana's by a *WIDE* margin. And this is from someone who is a fan of their Mario & Sonic cartoons.
For a second I thought you were going to be talking about that wayside story remake. Which is odd! Then I got reminded of the books that were read aloud to use in school and went: wait is there a show for that??
If you thought wayside was a bad adaptation wait till you seen Scaredy Squirrel (2011 Tv series)
I knew wayside had books but your telling me there better now I got to find them cause I loved the show.
Dang. I rewatched the entire series sometime this past year. And I loved it. Mind you I’m the same age as you
As a person who never read the book, I'm absolutely sure without reading it you cannot ever understand just how bad this really is. You can know it's bad but not how bad until you know what it could've been.
Did have a pretty good theme song tho, ya gotta give em that.
Hey Arnold feels like more of an adaptation of the book now that I think about it
The movie and show of Wayside was basically about the only smart person with common sense being put in a school that was surrounded by deranged idiots and morons in a nutshell when you think about it. It’s no wonder the books were more tolerable and fun to check out.
Having never read the books, but being a Canadian who would catch this show on the regular, I definitely understand its flaws and why it just wasn't interesting. Another casualty of Canadian broadcasting laws where to meet the percentages of Canadian content on any channel these things were pumped out like a factory line. At the same time as this "adaptation" where My Gym Partner is a Monkey and a George of the Jungle animated show, all three of which just sort of recycled the same sorts of ideas and characters. My Gym Partner is a Monkey is pretty much a 1-1 carbon copy in terms of theme, the straight man character, etc. And these sorts of things always came in waves based on what was finding popularity at the time.
Another of the "waves" had Totally Spies and Marvin Mystery. And then there was some of the worst like when Rugrats was the big name to be and there were a bunch trying to copy the Kuspo style like What's With Andy. There are gems in the rough with it, like Reboot in the first wave of 3D animation in the early 2000s, and the adaptation of the comic Cybersix. But yeah, so many absolute trashfires that sprouted from strict Canadian broadcast law encouraging cheap in and out animation to fill a quota rather than to actually create something meaningful.
Ah Canadian broadcast percentage laws, done to prevent American products from overtaking all media. Good idea in theory, as Canadian artists should have a decent chance for success in their own country, but the same laws that spawned 6Teen and Total Drama also spawned Johnny Test and The Day My Butt Went Psycho. Gotta take the bad with the good!
Listen, if they wanted a character that acted as the New Kid. Why not go with Allison? She would’ve acted as a much better main character than Todd! She was the only normal kid in a classroom full of Odd Balls, even Todd had his own quirk in that he always left early on the Kindergarten Bus.
I think I actually have some Wayside books in my room, it felt nice for someone to talk about something from my childhood
The funniest thing is, the books manage to pull off "fish out of water straight man who doesn't understand how Wayside works" character way better than the movie. That's the personality of Sue, the main character of the "Sideways Arithmetic from Wayside School" spinoff series, which is a bunch of unintuitive math puzzles. I haven't read the books in years, but I remember finding her pretty funny when I did.
I had a love/hate relationship with this show. I remember it fondly and wished there was more, but even when watching and enjoying it I was upset deep down that it felt nothing like the books and didn’t keep my favorite things at all. But because it was the only adaptation I got, it felt worth it because something was better than nothing, right? Maybe not… 😅
Now I have a lot of nostalgia for it, and lots of cringe about it too. It’s a complicated case and I feel compelled to defend the idea of it, but not out of any actual respect for what it was lol
I remember my teacher read the book in 2nd grade, and learning that there is a show based on the books makes me both happy and sad.
As a fellow Canadian, I remember watching Wayside everytime I came home from school, I didn't know it was based on a series of books so can't say if it's a good adaption or not, but even as a kid I was confused on why Mrs Jewels sent Todd home early for the stupidest of reasons, like forgetting to sign the free pink slip he got at the end of the aquarium episode, overall I liked this show, I preferred this over SideKick due to the kid characters being too mean-spirited to each other.
Don’t get me started on sidekick. I use to watch it and eventually forgot about it’s existence for years. I had a dream about it and was disappointed when I found out the show actually existed.
@@okjeffy6581I watched a handful of episodes again, and i was like "damn, that show is messy"
I’m equal parts sad and relieved that my favorite character in the books didn’t get adapted. Dameon was probably the best written teacher’s pet in that he wasn’t a suck up or anything; he just genuinely loved his teacher in a very non-creepy way. It was also a great lesson about how love isn’t just romantic or in a limited quantity; you aren’t limited to loving a certain amount of people in a certain way. In fact, the more love you give, the more love you receive in turn.
While Just Stop was lukewarmly praising the Wayside film for doing a subversion where a normal kid is sent to a school with wacky rules, I was remembering that My Gym Partner's a Monkey exists. Not saying that was a good show either, but Wayside only just barely came out before it so it doesn't even share long term originality.
The only thing I remember from this book series is a moment where the principal makes a rule that if you're walking up the stairs you walk on the right side and walking down the stairs you walk on the left side. Then he got mad when everyone ran into each other 😂
Maurecia: Punches Todd for a stupid or no reason at all
Grunkle Stan: Hey Soos, would it be wrong to punch a child?
Ah the 00s where women harassing and abusing men in cartoons was never taken seriously, or worse, played as comedy. It could almost be considered a staple of the era.
The worst thing was that I saw this when I was very young (I watched a lot of times the pilot movie that I had on DVD) my criteria was not so analytical to see this, not even reaching to understand that this was an adaptation of some books, now that I matured and researched better I have more reasoning to understand that this was really VERY far from the original material.
As a canadien this is giving me major flashbacks to the 2000s. I remember watching this as a kid and being creeped out over the 19th floor episode.
I remember reading one of the books as a kid and they had a chapter just called Miss Zarves and when it got to that chapter it was one page with something like "There is no Miss Zarves" and I was pissed
I remember another one of them actually DID have Miss Zarves tho so that was cool
DUUUDE... i cannot give enough props to this video thank you for covering that hellscape of a show man
I remember watching this show with my little brother years ago absolutely binging it and hating maurecia so fucking much 😭
I'd literally wiped this show from my memory til now, was quite literally convinced i was one of the only few who even knew it existed
This is legitimately the only time I’ve ever heard someone else talk about wayside school AT ALL. I have felt for years that I was the only person ever who actually read this freaking amazing book series and I’m so happy to have learned you did too!!
It still surprises me that there are people that actually dislike this show or think it’s bad. I’ve watched it with my friends and we all find it to be pretty good and charming. We like all the characters a lot and make jokes about the show somewhat often. I just don’t really see how it’s a *bad* show.
my only exposure of wayside as a kid was my school playing the show, only thing i remember is the trash compactor scene and the dumbass "girl bullies boy" trope
Dude I was so sad when it did not live up to the book, I remember when we read that in elementary school and my man that shit was the bomb. Namely my favorite part about that was when that one teacher who was a sub, was willing to throw a baby down to its death but when she read it's mind found out that it was just a lovable little shit and because of the feelings that that kid had in that moment completely changed from the evil bastard to a redeemable person. Like there is no good reason for there to be a character that turns from bad to good like that, but apparently the author felt like love was the answer to everything and I have to admit that is pretty admirable.
As well that part where they had students walking on the right side when they were going up, and on the left side when they were going down, put me off as a kid and I'm not a smart kid but in that moment I was like "bruh ain't people going to run into each other though?
Honestly the show really isn’t that bad if you didn’t read the book, since I remember enjoying a few episodes of this series when it started airing on nick.🐱
well the book doesn't seems bad, but the series are does, cause this is by which person it was directed, not the best cartoon ever, when the promo of that cartoon were appearing, i though it's exiting, but it turned out not very smart, even Ricky Sprocket didn't turned out perfect, cause his parents were taking him as someone selfish, his sister dislikes him by unknown reason, he even had such a rival at the studio, and his boss are so rough, rude, sassy, and not so fair, and Todd been putted in the school where so much kids aren't that smart, mostly his classmates and teacher with whos he's end up to stuck with, and their principal doesn't memorizing any names of any of the students whos goes in his school, he's not so genius and he's still owned the school which he does not deserve as what a level his intelect are, he's also really immature, well Todd doesn't know so much well either, and he seems like overwatched some silly cartoons with some pushy misions, yes even he's not perfect, and Maurecia whom fell in love with him to easily can be much worse, she's not a true tomboy, she doesn't realizes that Todd aren't really her boyfriend, as they've never been dating, never had kissing, and she punches him without realizing that is not good to do that, when she's stopped hitting him she's nearly suceed to conquer his love, but then she's ruined when she though like Dana suggested her to knock him harder, and she weren't letting the boys to go to their toilets, but she didn't the same with somebody of her gender, because she's a sexist after all, i'm glad that Louis aren't that bad, he's the only one whom turned out to be better in the series.
@@KapustaNicholaiis English your second language?
“it isn’t bad if you didn’t read the book”
well there’s the FIRST major problem
yes, why?
@@isaacinkwell which exactly?
I LOVED this show as a young kid, I'm ngl i personally had a crush in the rollar blade girl and the teacher and loved the concept of how the school was built
That being said its wild to see pieces of the show as an adult, i still don't exactly think its bad but its definitely not as good as i remember, i never knew it had books and honestly they seem really good, i really wanna have kids eventually and books like these are DEFINITELY ones i wanna share with them, good art, interesting characters, the fact the author doesnt treat kids as stupid etc, hell i might even check it out as an adult on my own
I saw the pilot and i still haven't read any of the books, and I have seen clips of the show but I never really liked it so Ive never really looked into it that much but think as its own property, the wayside pilot had a lot of fun with itself and has pretty good comedic timing. I feel like if this dude wasn't comparing the pilot to the books so much and nitt picking every little minor gripe that would never really hinder your enjoyment of the film. this dudes biassed and really good at whining and screaming at his microphone, trying to find as much dirt on this pilot from 2007. When This guy started flipping out over some technical errors during animation production It felt so out of touch because he said that you could "smell how low the budget is on this movie" is just so untrue, I like how spastic and all over the place the art direction is and I think the color pallets is so nice and vibrant, the backgrounds look really good for a lot of segments to me. I just think this guy just has shit taste honestly
As someone who read most of the books in their library, I was VERY confused to one day find an episode on RUclips
I like how they made Louis a stoner
There is someting that increasingly bothers me about he show's artstyle. You see,I look at it and I could swear I've seen it before which means that either I did watch Wayside once or twice then forgot or that the style chosen is a bit... Generic? And usually I wouldn't mind THAT much but in contrast to the book illustrations this video is showing it just bothers me so much
Like the book seems to have a solid,friendly,down to earth style. Take Ms. Jules for example,the short black hair,the style of clothing that looks inviting yet professional,hell I'd dare to say she looks like a teacher I used to have. But then you have the show like LONG CURLY *PINK* HAIR and is just... Why tho?
I completely forgot about this show’s artstyle, but God it felt like after 2007 Canadian shows all looked like Total Drama Island knockoffs.