Depleted Superman was able to get to star that powered him and then he super speed traveled to other stars to super charged him and then he one shot Wolrd Forger, and when he is super charged he has better resistance to magic, red star and kryptonite ... Superman objectivly wins since Thor can not depower him and when they are that close in strenght, endurance, powers, super speed would give Superman just enough edge to win ... Superman > Thor.
You need to know the context behind World Forger feat. 1, he didn't one shot. Just knocked him on his ass for a bit. So it's more accurate to say their at even level after Clark's amp. 2, Orion and Superman established Clark's true size on new Genesis without boomtube would be Microbial. That's a 10 Trillion X boost btw. In the 5th dimension Superman's size is that of a playing card compared to a 5D imp in scale. So roughly 241,670,000 X that 10 trillion boost. And that includes boomtube style size boosting tech to get even that size. And we don't know the size difference between 6th and 5th dimension. Point is at normal size Clark is not nearly this level amped. 3, the writers specifically verify Clark flew through 6D suns. So this is not a normal Sundip. So Clark can't normally Sundip to reach this level. But we do know when pissed and fighting near the Sun to amp over a short period( about a few minutes is my estimate) Clark can produce a boomtube all the way to source wall and back. And pissed while in space he has nearly killed Emperor Joker with 99% of Mxy's power. But it's worth noting he only had enough energy to do this once. And in space Clark has unfiltered solar radiation in all directions from all visible stars. So that also reflects his max amped state. So based off feats, without the size amp Clark's sundipped power is at best 5d imp tier for ONE ATTACK ONLY.
If we base it on the JLA/Avengers crossover comics then truth is Thor wins. I say that because "turn the dial up to eleven" depleted Superman to the point one Repulsor from Tony literally brought Superman to his knees. So Clark was maxed out. Thor did not use the God blast in their fight. The God blast is stronger than Mjolnir or Thor alone. And Mjolnir has absorbed and magnified Thanos power back at him 100-fold canonically under its own power. So God Blast is at least 200 X Thor's own power. We also see that Thor can ignore the effects of heat vision and in the comics we see the absolute zero cold counters heat vision. So his elemental powers don't mean much in this fight. In the Xmen/Teen Titans crossover we find out just Dark Phoenix is stronger than Darkseid. In those crossovers we also discover your average hungry Galactus effortlessly fells Darkseid. Thereby its clear Skyfather tiers in Marvel well surpass those in DC. And whether it be Perrikus, Galactus, etc we see the God blast pretty consistently does heavy damage to skyfarhers and thereby stomps an unamped Clark. As for Amped Clark, its worth noting Galactus besting Darkseid occurred on Apokolips. So we are talking full strength Darkseid here. We see that M. Mxy's power also surpasses Darkseid so at lowball Galactus is Mxy tier. And godblast heavy damages that tier. And what most don't know is that each higher dimension in DC Clark travels to increases clarks size. His true true size is stated to be a dust mite on new Genesis. The math says Clark's battery power was increased trillions of times via boomtube. Without that size increase an amped Clark aint even true Darkseid tier and thus doesnt compete with thor. Especially now thatThor is a skyfather.
I agree, I think it really depends on the writers. In the JLA/Avengers comic, one of the writers was a huge Superman fan, and the outcome might have stemmed from that. However, it was a decision made by both Marvel and DC writers
No matter how much I love thor.more superman is too op
Depleted Superman was able to get to star that powered him and then he super speed traveled to other stars to super charged him and then he one shot Wolrd Forger, and when he is super charged he has better resistance to magic, red star and kryptonite ... Superman objectivly wins since Thor can not depower him and when they are that close in strenght, endurance, powers, super speed would give Superman just enough edge to win ... Superman > Thor.
You need to know the context behind World Forger feat.
1, he didn't one shot. Just knocked him on his ass for a bit. So it's more accurate to say their at even level after Clark's amp.
2, Orion and Superman established Clark's true size on new Genesis without boomtube would be Microbial. That's a 10 Trillion X boost btw.
In the 5th dimension Superman's size is that of a playing card compared to a 5D imp in scale. So roughly 241,670,000 X that 10 trillion boost. And that includes boomtube style size boosting tech to get even that size. And we don't know the size difference between 6th and 5th dimension. Point is at normal size Clark is not nearly this level amped.
3, the writers specifically verify Clark flew through 6D suns. So this is not a normal Sundip. So Clark can't normally Sundip to reach this level.
But we do know when pissed and fighting near the Sun to amp over a short period( about a few minutes is my estimate) Clark can produce a boomtube all the way to source wall and back.
And pissed while in space he has nearly killed Emperor Joker with 99% of Mxy's power. But it's worth noting he only had enough energy to do this once. And in space Clark has unfiltered solar radiation in all directions from all visible stars. So that also reflects his max amped state.
So based off feats, without the size amp Clark's sundipped power is at best 5d imp tier for ONE ATTACK ONLY.
@@DavidBarrett-gz3ihDamn son you wrote thr whole paragraph 😅
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Hehe. I'm thorough and want people to know full context. 🤭
If we base it on the JLA/Avengers crossover comics then truth is Thor wins.
I say that because "turn the dial up to eleven" depleted Superman to the point one Repulsor from Tony literally brought Superman to his knees. So Clark was maxed out.
Thor did not use the God blast in their fight. The God blast is stronger than Mjolnir or Thor alone. And Mjolnir has absorbed and magnified Thanos power back at him 100-fold canonically under its own power. So God Blast is at least 200 X Thor's own power.
We also see that Thor can ignore the effects of heat vision and in the comics we see the absolute zero cold counters heat vision. So his elemental powers don't mean much in this fight.
In the Xmen/Teen Titans crossover we find out just Dark Phoenix is stronger than Darkseid.
In those crossovers we also discover your average hungry Galactus effortlessly fells Darkseid.
Thereby its clear Skyfather tiers in Marvel well surpass those in DC. And whether it be Perrikus, Galactus, etc we see the God blast pretty consistently does heavy damage to skyfarhers and thereby stomps an unamped Clark.
As for Amped Clark, its worth noting Galactus besting Darkseid occurred on Apokolips. So we are talking full strength Darkseid here.
We see that M. Mxy's power also surpasses Darkseid so at lowball Galactus is Mxy tier. And godblast heavy damages that tier.
And what most don't know is that each higher dimension in DC Clark travels to increases clarks size. His true true size is stated to be a dust mite on new Genesis. The math says Clark's battery power was increased trillions of times via boomtube.
Without that size increase an amped Clark aint even true Darkseid tier and thus doesnt compete with thor. Especially now thatThor is a skyfather.
It depends on the writer, by the way I think superman is stronger & faster than thor odinson, but thor is more powerful
I agree, I think it really depends on the writers. In the JLA/Avengers comic, one of the writers was a huge Superman fan, and the outcome might have stemmed from that. However, it was a decision made by both Marvel and DC writers
@nerdhavenworld if unbiased would write, then thor ⚡🔨will win
@@showmickchandramitra6966Hell nah. Superman would wipes the floor with Thor.
Does Thor have Superman's speed with mjolnir?
No. Not even close.