I'm not sure I understand using mix minus when feeding back into my laptop. Here's my situation: we plan to have an in-person club meeting with a guest speaker attending virtually via Zoom. I plan to project the Zoom participant onto a screen and push the audio through a portable PA speaker. The laptop does have a headset (TRRS) input. If I do a mix minus and feed it back into the headset input of the computer, would that be all I'd have to do to prevent a feedback loop? I would be feeding my mic through the mixer as well, and that mic would also be picking up the questions ask of the speaker by in-person attendees.
Using mix-minus for a podcast with phone guests. Mixer model is unknown- cheapo, but has aux connections. Windows 11 using Cubase 12 Pro to record. PERFECT SOLUTION DUDE!!! Awesome sound quality and will watch more vids!!
In 4 years I have not found a more clear, precise and thorough explanation of what mix minus is Thank you Jordan - Cheers and keep up the fantastic work!
I know what mix-minus is, but this is the only time in many years that I have finally known that my MGX10U has a built-in Mix minus. Thank you for the information. I am supposed to sell my mixer and replace it with a Behringer. Thank you! ❤️
Thanks Kettner. I do hybrid events and almost always get confused with the audio team. Thanks for clearing this so simply. Now I can instruct them technically what I need. :p
The instruction in this video was concise and correct. Makes other web and video explanations seem pathetic. SUBSCRIBED!! Before I ever heard of mix minus, I tried several ways to accomplish this with no success. My latest attempt was buying a usb c to TRRS cable and my Samsung phone puked when I connected the cable- cutting in and out, dropping audio and absolutely no mic input. After this video and spending what I believe to be a little amount on the suggested cables, I feel Iike a pro and the audio is clear as well. I am not sure of the mixer model as it was purchased from Temu and I almost returned it because of the "feel" of the casing and I am so glad I did not.
I love the way Jordan explains stuff...... focusing on one topic and talking it through from the beginning to the end.........in a clear and precise manner.
Great tutorial, Jordan 👏 Informative, concise and nicely presented. There’s far too many RUclipsrs out there that feel the need to bloat their videos with irrelevant, ‘humorous’ content instead of just giving the viewer the info they need! Well done, keep up the good work 👍🏻
You made me purchase YAMAHA 10MG XU for my home use.... you made it so simple for me, I was not getting it all these years thinking that it will be complicated. Thank you BRO
I am watching this, trying to learn how to set up a mic minus for the 1st time. You are doing a great job, but please make sure to announce and display each cable you are using, and tell us what it is. After plugging in the xlr female/aux splitter into the Lighting adapter, you don't tell us what cable or adapter you plug in after that. It looks like a 1/4 jack that splits into Two 1/4 jacks, with an 1/8 inch adapter in the single side. Please be very clear. Trying to learn how to set up a mix minus is confusing for someone new to this, I'm trying to watch this to know everything i need to buy to do this. It is very helpful still, especially putting links in description, even though i use Samsung not Apple phone. It's cool to learn how to set up a mic minus to the phone especially! I'm trying to figure out how to screen record call of duty mobile on my phone, and have everyone's voice audio in the game, and the games audio, as well as my own voice audio, all together. So i can upload to RUclips, i wouldn't know how to stream that live, but i would like to just see if that's possible. Want to set it up on the computer too. You're video is very helpful, thank you!
@Kettner Creative - Jordan, your way of explaining things is top notch. Very logical and just enough detail. About mix minus for live event, it would be great if you can address how to prevent the remote voices coming over the speakers at the event from getting into the open mics and then back out to the remote people, creating some echo issues. Can be a secondary route for the remote voices going back to them, right? There are various higher end boxes for keeping this from happening, but wonder if you have any tips at the level you deal with here. Again, great work!
Great and well explained video! If the mixer connects with computer via USB as audio interface, the whole mix will be input to conferencing application via USB, not via AUX send, how can I achieve mix minus?
Thanks for the video and setting me straight on what I did wrong. I bought a TRS headphone and mic splitter. I believe it uses a different wiring. I also took your advice and removed my 2i2 out of the chain. I like my Yamaha mixer but I have three things I don't like. 1] No channel mute button 2] Headphone and monitor on the same knob 3] The manual folds out like a ma big map. Thanks for the great advice.
Appreciated the illustration -- needed a visual way to describe mix-minus to a friend. However, I'm confused that this is a relatively new video posting and I've been using every model of Apple laptop since 1995 -- and I can remember at least back to 2008 that the TRRS earbuds work just fine as a mic input on these systems. I've been using various iRig (and other brand) devices with TRRS to get audio in and out of phones and laptops for a long time -- and I've never had an Apple product be incompatible with two-way audio through that port.
Hello, sincerely you are excellent explaining and I have become your fan. Thank you for these tutorials which are of remarkable quality. A big hug from Bariloche, Argentina
Hello Jordan, I have purchased a new I-Pad Air 4 and also a USB-C to Headphone Jack Adapter ( original APPLE ) and i listening with Sennheiser headphone. So far no problem. But there is problem with my new I-Pad Air4 when connect it to my Mixer Yamaha MG10XU that i use for my keyboard and external speakers etc. The sound i hear now from I-Pad via the Yamaha-mixer phones connection is how to say, stuttering scattered with pauses. The way i connect the whole setup is: I-Pad Air4 -> USB-C to Headphone Jack -> Cable 3.5mm jack to 2 Tulp ( RCA ) plugs. I put these plugs into the red an white connections on the Yamaha MG10XU channel 7/8 Tried also other inputs above on the mixer but all results are the same. With my old I-Pad the same connection written as above there was no problem. Old I-Pad had a 3.5mm headphone connection hole. The new I-Pad air has only USB-C I do not know how to solve this problem, maybe make the connections as you showed in this video or maybe via the USB on the back of YamahaMG10XU to USB-C on the I-Pad Air4 or have i the wrong USB-C to Headphone Jack adapter ? Please help Ad Koolmees The Netherlands
Thanks for this video. I'm just curious, what happens if you turn up the FX Return knob, will it just disable the FX Send signal? Or will the people listening get tto hear their own voice but with reverb/effects?
Excellent! My question is how I use fx send as an external fx device, I mean if I have an external delay box how I connect it thru fx send ? Thank you man!!! UPDATE: Thanks I found it, big ups dude!!
Hello, thank you very much for these good explanations. Is there a problem to use on my Mackie a TRRS wire with 3 RCA male outputs and putting 3x RCA female to 1/4 male jack conversion.
But if the phone sound is being output in a speaker, it will go inte the mics of those other four person and the mix minus won't work, right? Just trying to understand this whole thing? :) My context is live broadcast from a studio where some people are being interview on Zoom/Teams. Thanks.
@@theelvisphoto Not at all! I asked the same. But, interestingly, we find this to be pretty much a non-issue nowadays. I think the various platforms have got better at self-detecting the sound they are sending and preventing the looping. Do you still have the issue now - 9 months later?
@@srbh41413 Yes, that works when the output goes to Teams/Zoom,. Bur when the broadcast goes to RUclips, for instance, there is no automatic echo cancelling in the outgoing loop.
Hello I am about buy a Yamaha mg16xu for hybrid events. I need to make sure that the minus mix setup is what I need. Imagine this situation: 40 persons in a room, 4 mic’s panel, 40 persons on zoom. We need to mic for the Audience and people on zoom need to interact with panel participants. I use the minus mix setup and I output it in an other speaker (using auxiliary output) parallel to the main mix. I don’t know if iam clear.
Hi. This video was really helpful! I notice on the Yamaha MG10XU there is the knob for FX send that you turn down, but there is also a push button for FX on/off. Does that come into use at all? If that's OFF, then does the knob control the volume on the Aux bus? Thanks.
With the Yamaha, you cannot do a MixMinus over USB because it only has one output that copies the stereo output. If you want to do this, you would need to find a USB mixer with at least 4 USB outputs. Generally speaking, you would be looking at a digital audio console somewhere between $1200-2000 for this feature. I prefer the Allen & Heath QU16 but there are many other products that can do this as well.
@@kettnercreative Thanks again for your reply Jordan. Can you possibly suggest any mixer? My requirement is 6 input and 4 separate (track) outputs. Currently, I have MG10XU
@@surendrabothra5905 The Soundcraft 12FX has a true 4x4 USB audio interface and has the ability to change ‘which set of input pairs’ the computer sees when recording as well as having a separate AUX buss if you want to do mix minus with the hardware instead.
Jordan, love the content. Would you kindly share if and how I can do phone interviews through a Scarlett 8i6 (or any interface)? Can this be done via an interface like the Scarletts or must I have an audio board plugged to the interface?
Audio Mixers definitely make it easier to see what you're doing. I think some Scarlett interfaces have loopback mode which should do this for you. At this point I haven't tried it, but hopefully it will point you in the right direction.
Hi, What set up do I use if I only want to talk to only the reverend? Do I still send from the FX to the phone XLR or the 1/8"? Thank you for your help.
Hi, What set up do I use if I only want to talk to only the reverend? Do I still send from the FX to the phone XLR or the 1/8"? Thank you for your help, Gail
In my case your cell phone is actually a group of callers on Zoom. Will they be able to hear each other speaking or will zeroing out their sound eliminate anybody calling in on Zoom from hearing others on the Zoom call. I know they will hear the live microphones.
I've used this method as you suggested on an Mg10XU to connect an Android phone but I need some help. What I've noticed is that I need to have the FX send level just above zero or else the input on the phone gets distorted . Have you ever had to use an attenuator with this? I notice that the output of the FX Send is +4db and I don't have much control since I have to keep the fx send knob very low just at about 1 Out of 10 tick marks. Have you ever encountered this problem ? Thanks
I know this is an old video, but if my phone has a USB-C, could I not just use the USB connection from the back of the MG10XU to the phone, since it has 2 in/2 out?
I have a question...I'm trying to do a mix minus with 3 separate feeds coming in MS TEAMs. I have 2 AUX sends on my MACKIE 1202VLZ4. I'm solid with doing a mix minus with 2 TEAMS feeds. How do I do it with 3?
We use TEAMS a lot, so I'm interested in your situation. What do you mean by "3 separage feeds coming in MS TEAMs"? There are 3 participants other than you? Hopefully, I could suggest something. We use Mackie 1604vlz which has 4 subs out, so very convenient.
Hi, what is the cable that you are using connecting the iPhone adaptor ? I cannot see clearly from your video (3:25) And does it input stereo sound from mixer to the phone?
My question is like this . I am receiving calls from 3 mobile 1)what’sup 2) Viber 3) Imo. I can talk individually to everyone but I want to have a group call or conference between these three mobile that everyone could talk to each other and everyone could hear each other . Please need your help or please make a video thank you so much in advance
Help!, I have the MG10ux and I set up the mix minus exactly as described. But what is happening is that when the everything is connecting is is causing the microphone to get extremely hot (not temp, the sensitivity) and it begins to pop the microphone. It is like an explosion of sound. I begin to talk into the mic everything is good for a few seconds and then, I think the pre-amp, pops making the sound and sensitivity go way up. Then if I stop talking it goes back to the normal level until I talk again an then it pops again. I have now switched out all of the cords and it has not stopped the problem. I am thinking it must now be the phone (iphone X) or the board. I have tried many configurations and it does seem to be an issue with FX send because when I plug the cord into this, I can hear the sound get hotter and there is a buzz. Have you ever heard of this? Advice
Hi Jordan!I'm using a CROWN MC-4US Professional 4 channel mixing console.it has AUX and EFFECT out which is the best to connect my phone? I'm a little bit confused.
Hello, again Jordan. Purchased all the cables you've suggested in the description for taking phone calls through a mixer. Sometimes, when I plug in the cables to the iPhone, I get a prompt saying "accessory not supported". When I'm able to get past the prompt, I can't even get a signal during the call. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance!
@@ascensomultimedia Strange, that's the only time that I've seen an accessory not supported. Once the digital to analog conversion is done, there's nothing else for the device to support. This is exactly what that adapter is meant for.
i use an irig in conjunction with one of the monitor out to stream live and discuss with fans on instagram . so can i use this setup and not use my irig, to achieve the same result ?
I was about to order an iRig2 for this kind of setup because I thought the level had to be lowered from the mixer to the phones microphone input. Does some part of your setup do this? e.g. the lightning adaptor, xlr spliter, or trs to xlr cable? Or is this not needed? Thanks
I ran into an issue. I have a person on the phone and a group of people in Zoom ( on iMac late 2013 with Headphone port: Headphone/optical digital audio output (minijack)) meeting and I want to connect all. With mix-minus and of course USB mode, folks in Zoom, hear themselves. Is there a way to fix this, please? I seems I cannot use the USB mode in my case! Aren't I correct?
@@kettnercreative Do you mean I should not use USB? I have MG12XU. It has two AUX1 and AUX2. I suppose If I don't want to use the onboard effects, I should be able to do two mix-minus setup. Aren't I correct?
I bought the phone adapter/splitter and followed the setup for a mix minus on this same mixer. I am able to get the caller's audio, and the caller can hear when I play music through another channel on the mixer. The only thing the caller is not able to hear is my voice coming through any of my mics from the mixer. Do you have any suggestions on how to get my mic's audio through to the caller? Thanks for your help.
@@kettnercreative I'm thinking I may have an issue with the splitter and or with the phones. I originally tried using a Samsung Galaxy and couldn't get the caller to hear me. However they were able to hear the music coming through the mixer. Then I used an iPhone and was able to get the mic to be heard on the other end of the call. However, the audio was distorted from my microphone and was changing levels every other second - going from high to low but never staying at a steady level nor clear. Have you ever had a problem with the splitter? For reference I don't have any problems with mics, and music playing through the mixer when not trying to create a mix minus using the splitter.
@@kettnercreative I do have the same connections you have with double 1/4" going into 5/6 and and the 1/4" in the fx, both plugged into the splitter as you have it with 1/8" and xlr. Thanks in advance for helping me figure this out.
@@three20media12 I have a very similar issue while using a Samsung Galaxy 10 phone. The caller comes through clearly over the speaker but they can't hear the audio coming from the microphones.
@@kennetht2362 I decided to try a new microphone after ordering a second splitter and having the same issue. I was originally using a shotgun mic. I bought the Shure SM58 and that seemed to fix the problem. To be clear, I didn't have any problems with the shotgun mic while using just the mixer. It wasn't until I used the splitter that I ran into issues. I'm not sure why the mic made the difference. Maybe @Kettner Creative will be able to explain. Hope that helps.
Yeah to intergrate discord while playing a game while live streaming or not, I haven't got the mixer yet I'm just wondering is it somethings thats possible to seperate the audios so i can adjust volumes and stuff for each sorta thing
If you're using a MacBook Pro with this setup, you would need some type of USB device to give you the headphone out and mic/line input since they don't have a headset output built in. You could use a Sabrent USB Audio card on the low end and on the high end you could use a USB audio interface.
The adapter in the video from the phone to the headSET is for iPhone. Does anyone have a link to an adapter that does the same thing for Android (usb-c to headSET)? The reason that I am asking here is because of a rather strange anomaly I have discovered on Amazon. If you actually do a search for an adapter such as what is used in the video with the term headSET, the Amazon results - without fail - will return items labeled headPHONE regardless of how I structure the request of what I am looking for! If anyone knows a "trick" I could use to get Amazon to leave out results containing the word, headPHONE, that would be deeply appreciated as well. I have literally and truthfully spent hours at Amazon and I cannot get past this incredibly persistent issue with the search results not containing the actual word I am looking for. So, please, if anyone has a link to a USB-C to headSET converter, please pass it along. Thanking you in advance for helping out! Max
@@kettnercreative Hey Jordan - your videos are the best! I happen to use the Yamaha MG10XU. Nit being an "Apple Guy", if not Amazon, where do I go to find the USB-C / iPhone version of what you are using? Thanks for your efforts. You are making a real difference! Sincerely, Max
@@kettnercreative Oh! Excellent! Color me silly. Thank you for the direction - but mostly for your effort toward sharing the knowledge you bestow on those of us in need of the "tricks or the trade" (grin). As I stated before, you continue to make a real difference! Sincerely and without hesitation, Max
Is it that mix minus comes built in with zoom podtrack p4 / rode podcaster ? We are doing with cables right ? Because I couldn't find that adapter in my country .
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What setup are you using for your mix minus? What mixer? What device?
Hi, thank you for the tutorials. I am using a Mackie FX10v3 and a Macbook Pro 2018
@Jason Snow it’s all in the tip of the input. I’m having a hard time setting as it didn’t quite work how I thought it was.
I'm not sure I understand using mix minus when feeding back into my laptop. Here's my situation: we plan to have an in-person club meeting with a guest speaker attending virtually via Zoom. I plan to project the Zoom participant onto a screen and push the audio through a portable PA speaker. The laptop does have a headset (TRRS) input. If I do a mix minus and feed it back into the headset input of the computer, would that be all I'd have to do to prevent a feedback loop? I would be feeding my mic through the mixer as well, and that mic would also be picking up the questions ask of the speaker by in-person attendees.
Using mix-minus for a podcast with phone guests. Mixer model is unknown- cheapo, but has aux connections. Windows 11 using Cubase 12 Pro to record. PERFECT SOLUTION DUDE!!! Awesome sound quality and will watch more vids!!
In 4 years I have not found a more clear, precise and thorough explanation of what mix minus is Thank you Jordan - Cheers and keep up the fantastic work!
Glad to help!
@@kettnercreative Dude you just solved a big problem for me, too! Thanks alot and i hope your are doing well!
I know what mix-minus is, but this is the only time in many years that I have finally known that my MGX10U has a built-in Mix minus. Thank you for the information. I am supposed to sell my mixer and replace it with a Behringer. Thank you! ❤️
Thanks Kettner. I do hybrid events and almost always get confused with the audio team. Thanks for clearing this so simply. Now I can instruct them technically what I need. :p
The instruction in this video was concise and correct. Makes other web and video explanations seem pathetic.
SUBSCRIBED!!
Before I ever heard of mix minus, I tried several ways to accomplish this with no success. My latest attempt was buying a usb c to TRRS cable and my Samsung phone puked when I connected the cable- cutting in and out, dropping audio and absolutely no mic input. After this video and spending what I believe to be a little amount on the suggested cables, I feel Iike a pro and the audio is clear as well. I am not sure of the mixer model as it was purchased from Temu and I almost returned it because of the "feel" of the casing and I am so glad I did not.
I love the way Jordan explains stuff...... focusing on one topic and talking it through from the beginning to the end.........in a clear and precise manner.
Great tutorial, Jordan 👏
Informative, concise and nicely presented. There’s far too many RUclipsrs out there that feel the need to bloat their videos with irrelevant, ‘humorous’ content instead of just giving the viewer the info they need!
Well done, keep up the good work 👍🏻
Thanks for the comment, we try really hard to focus strictly on the questions/answers.
You made me purchase YAMAHA 10MG XU for my home use.... you made it so simple for me, I was not getting it all these years thinking that it will be complicated. Thank you BRO
The simplest video how to understand about mix minus i have ever watched. Thanks bro
I am watching this, trying to learn how to set up a mic minus for the 1st time. You are doing a great job, but please make sure to announce and display each cable you are using, and tell us what it is. After plugging in the xlr female/aux splitter into the Lighting adapter, you don't tell us what cable or adapter you plug in after that. It looks like a 1/4 jack that splits into Two 1/4 jacks, with an 1/8 inch adapter in the single side.
Please be very clear. Trying to learn how to set up a mix minus is confusing for someone new to this, I'm trying to watch this to know everything i need to buy to do this. It is very helpful still, especially putting links in description, even though i use Samsung not Apple phone.
It's cool to learn how to set up a mic minus to the phone especially!
I'm trying to figure out how to screen record call of duty mobile on my phone, and have everyone's voice audio in the game, and the games audio, as well as my own voice audio, all together. So i can upload to RUclips, i wouldn't know how to stream that live, but i would like to just see if that's possible.
Want to set it up on the computer too.
You're video is very helpful, thank you!
Absolutely stellar advice and guidance. A big thank-you from a former Sunshine Coast resident. :)
Glad it was helpful!
@Kettner Creative - Jordan, your way of explaining things is top notch. Very logical and just enough detail.
About mix minus for live event, it would be great if you can address how to prevent the remote voices coming over the speakers at the event from getting into the open mics and then back out to the remote people, creating some echo issues. Can be a secondary route for the remote voices going back to them, right? There are various higher end boxes for keeping this from happening, but wonder if you have any tips at the level you deal with here.
Again, great work!
that's our problem also
thanks mate the intro was great > with the logic...
Great and well explained video! If the mixer connects with computer via USB as audio interface, the whole mix will be input to conferencing application via USB, not via AUX send, how can I achieve mix minus?
Thanks for the video and setting me straight on what I did wrong. I bought a TRS headphone and mic splitter. I believe it uses a different wiring. I also took your advice and removed my 2i2 out of the chain. I like my Yamaha mixer but I have three things I don't like. 1] No channel mute button 2] Headphone and monitor on the same knob 3] The manual folds out like a ma big map. Thanks for the great advice.
Yeah, the Mackie ProFX10v3 solves all of those issues. Plus you get a blend knob.
Best explanation thus far for mix minus, thanks Jordan!
Thank you sir for your packaged information
You’re welcome
Appreciated the illustration -- needed a visual way to describe mix-minus to a friend. However, I'm confused that this is a relatively new video posting and I've been using every model of Apple laptop since 1995 -- and I can remember at least back to 2008 that the TRRS earbuds work just fine as a mic input on these systems. I've been using various iRig (and other brand) devices with TRRS to get audio in and out of phones and laptops for a long time -- and I've never had an Apple product be incompatible with two-way audio through that port.
In 2016 they killed the TRRS port in laptops.
Zoom is mono by default; if you want stereo you have to enable it in the audio settings.
Hello, sincerely you are excellent explaining and I have become your fan. Thank you for these tutorials which are of remarkable quality. A big hug from Bariloche, Argentina
Your videos ROCK! Love what U do, best series on mixers out there on YT!
Glad you like them!
Very helpful. Thanks.
Hello Jordan,
I have purchased a new I-Pad Air 4 and also a USB-C to Headphone Jack Adapter ( original APPLE ) and i listening with Sennheiser headphone. So far no problem.
But there is problem with my new I-Pad Air4 when connect it to my Mixer Yamaha MG10XU that i use for my keyboard and external speakers etc.
The sound i hear now from I-Pad via the Yamaha-mixer phones connection is how to say, stuttering scattered with pauses.
The way i connect the whole setup is: I-Pad Air4 -> USB-C to Headphone Jack -> Cable 3.5mm jack to 2 Tulp ( RCA ) plugs.
I put these plugs into the red an white connections on the Yamaha MG10XU channel 7/8
Tried also other inputs above on the mixer but all results are the same.
With my old I-Pad the same connection written as above there was no problem. Old I-Pad had a 3.5mm headphone connection hole. The new I-Pad air has only USB-C
I do not know how to solve this problem, maybe make the connections as you showed in this video or maybe via the USB on the back of YamahaMG10XU to USB-C on the I-Pad Air4 or have i the wrong USB-C to Headphone Jack adapter ?
Please help
Ad Koolmees
The Netherlands
Thank from France
Thank you thank you your the best.
great explanation, thank you!
Thanks for this video. I'm just curious, what happens if you turn up the FX Return knob, will it just disable the FX Send signal? Or will the people listening get tto hear their own voice but with reverb/effects?
Excellent! My question is how I use fx send as an external fx device, I mean if I have an external delay box how I connect it thru fx send ? Thank you man!!!
UPDATE: Thanks I found it, big ups dude!!
very clear thank you
amazing explanation thank you
You are welcome!
You've been a huge help! Thank you.
Glad to help!
Thank you!!! :) Very helpful video!
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for the info
No problem 👍
Loved the video, thanks. It's there a way to do this on the Profx6?
Hello, thank you very much for these good explanations. Is there a problem to use on my Mackie a TRRS wire with 3 RCA male outputs and putting 3x RCA female to 1/4 male jack conversion.
But if the phone sound is being output in a speaker, it will go inte the mics of those other four person and the mix minus won't work, right? Just trying to understand this whole thing? :) My context is live broadcast from a studio where some people are being interview on Zoom/Teams. Thanks.
Is this a stupid question? :-)
@@theelvisphoto Not at all! I asked the same. But, interestingly, we find this to be pretty much a non-issue nowadays. I think the various platforms have got better at self-detecting the sound they are sending and preventing the looping. Do you still have the issue now - 9 months later?
@@srbh41413 Yes, that works when the output goes to Teams/Zoom,. Bur when the broadcast goes to RUclips, for instance, there is no automatic echo cancelling in the outgoing loop.
This was a very good tutorial thank you! I had a quick question would this work the same for an analog mixer with a USB input?
Hello I am about buy a Yamaha mg16xu for hybrid events. I need to make sure that the minus mix setup is what I need. Imagine this situation: 40 persons in a room, 4 mic’s panel, 40 persons on zoom. We need to mic for the Audience and people on zoom need to interact with panel participants. I use the minus mix setup and I output it in an other speaker (using auxiliary output) parallel to the main mix. I don’t know if iam clear.
Need more info about that set-up too.
Does it matter that the sound coming from the phone is not line level?
Hi. This video was really helpful! I notice on the Yamaha MG10XU there is the knob for FX send that you turn down, but there is also a push button for FX on/off. Does that come into use at all? If that's OFF, then does the knob control the volume on the Aux bus? Thanks.
This is for MG10. I have MGX12U. I suppose I can use Aux 1 for sending signal to the caller and use its onboard effects.
Exactly.
@@kettnercreative Thanks for the tip!
Is there a way to record 8 channels using the Mackie mixer? All as separate tracks?
top! thanx::)
Hello Jordon. Can you pls do a video on mix minus through USB instead of FX/Aux send on MG10XU.
With the Yamaha, you cannot do a MixMinus over USB because it only has one output that copies the stereo output. If you want to do this, you would need to find a USB mixer with at least 4 USB outputs.
Generally speaking, you would be looking at a digital audio console somewhere between $1200-2000 for this feature. I prefer the Allen & Heath QU16 but there are many other products that can do this as well.
@@kettnercreative Ok thanks. I assume there is no way of getting a third separate track also with this mixer with any sort of workaround
@@surendrabothra5905 That's correct. You'd need a pretty serious mixer upgrade to get that feature.
@@kettnercreative Thanks again for your reply Jordan. Can you possibly suggest any mixer? My requirement is 6 input and 4 separate (track) outputs. Currently, I have MG10XU
@@surendrabothra5905 The Soundcraft 12FX has a true 4x4 USB audio interface and has the ability to change ‘which set of input pairs’ the computer sees when recording as well as having a separate AUX buss if you want to do mix minus with the hardware instead.
hi! can u make a video about mix minus on the 10XUF? thanks!
Jordan, love the content. Would you kindly share if and how I can do phone interviews through a Scarlett 8i6 (or any interface)? Can this be done via an interface like the Scarletts or must I have an audio board plugged to the interface?
Audio Mixers definitely make it easier to see what you're doing. I think some Scarlett interfaces have loopback mode which should do this for you. At this point I haven't tried it, but hopefully it will point you in the right direction.
Understood one line you used for only one caller/participant,,, what sd be the setup if caller/participants more than one?
No Irig needed? cool! thanks!
Exactly.
Hi, can you help me how to connect Yamaha mixer MG12XU to Roku Ultra streaming ? Thanks
So laptop's Mic In has actually some use to it (never used it myself).
Is there a way of doing this with a phone that only has USB-C audio output?
What if I don't want to hear my mic, or if I want to separate my mic for special effects?
What about for gaming?
You did not leave a link for the XLR / 3.5 MM FEMALE TO 3.5 MM MALE CABLE.. CAN YOU ASSIST?
Hi, What set up do I use if I only want to talk to only the reverend? Do I still send from the FX to the phone XLR or the 1/8"? Thank you for your help.
Hi, What set up do I use if I only want to talk to only the reverend? Do I still send from the FX to the phone XLR or the 1/8"? Thank you for your help, Gail
In my case your cell phone is actually a group of callers on Zoom. Will they be able to hear each other speaking or will zeroing out their sound eliminate anybody calling in on Zoom from hearing others on the Zoom call. I know they will hear the live microphones.
Yes they will. Zoom manages that. Everything in this video will work fine regardless of the size of the zoom meeting.
I've used this method as you suggested on an Mg10XU to connect an Android phone but I need some help. What I've noticed is that I need to have the FX send level just above zero or else the input on the phone gets distorted . Have you ever had to use an attenuator with this? I notice that the output of the FX Send is +4db and I don't have much control since I have to keep the fx send knob very low just at about 1 Out of 10 tick marks. Have you ever encountered this problem ? Thanks
I’m running into issues when ever I talk the mixer pegs and shuts off. I have no issue on the callers side. I’ve tried multiple dongles and phones.
I know this is an old video, but if my phone has a USB-C, could I not just use the USB connection from the back of the MG10XU to the phone, since it has 2 in/2 out?
I haven't tried it, but it should work.
I have Yamaha MG06x without Fx send, so can I do mix-minus with it and Scarlet Focusrite Interface?
Thanks.
No, you need the FX send in order to do the FX send.
why does it seem I can only use this with skype and no other podcasting software
I have a question...I'm trying to do a mix minus with 3 separate feeds coming in MS TEAMs. I have 2 AUX sends on my MACKIE 1202VLZ4. I'm solid with doing a mix minus with 2 TEAMS feeds. How do I do it with 3?
We use TEAMS a lot, so I'm interested in your situation. What do you mean by "3 separage feeds coming in MS TEAMs"? There are 3 participants other than you? Hopefully, I could suggest something. We use Mackie 1604vlz which has 4 subs out, so very convenient.
Hi, what is the cable that you are using connecting the iPhone adaptor ? I cannot see clearly from your video (3:25)
And does it input stereo sound from mixer to the phone?
It's linked in the description of the video. It pulls from the FX send, which is Mono.
My question is like this . I am receiving calls from 3 mobile 1)what’sup 2) Viber 3) Imo. I can talk individually to everyone but I want to have a group call or conference between these three mobile that everyone could talk to each other and everyone could hear each other . Please need your help or please make a video thank you so much in advance
You need an audio mixer with 3 aux channels to make this work.
Help!, I have the MG10ux and I set up the mix minus exactly as described. But what is happening is that when the everything is connecting is is causing the microphone to get extremely hot (not temp, the sensitivity) and it begins to pop the microphone. It is like an explosion of sound. I begin to talk into the mic everything is good for a few seconds and then, I think the pre-amp, pops making the sound and sensitivity go way up. Then if I stop talking it goes back to the normal level until I talk again an then it pops again. I have now switched out all of the cords and it has not stopped the problem. I am thinking it must now be the phone (iphone X) or the board. I have tried many configurations and it does seem to be an issue with FX send because when I plug the cord into this, I can hear the sound get hotter and there is a buzz. Have you ever heard of this? Advice
I would call Yamaha/support. Sounds like a hardware issue.
48v is open
Do you have to use the ¼" Jacks on 5/6 or can you use the RCA phono's on 5/6 channels
That works too
@@kettnercreative Thank you
Does this mean I can’t do this and have fx?
Is the FX send on the Mg10xu a line level? I think it has a +4dBu
Yes! You can either turn down the volumes or use an in-line XLR pad if the level is too hot for you.
@@kettnercreative yes , I turned down the fx knob to almost zero to prevent distortion😅 Most importantly , your method works ! Cheers 🥂
@@kettnercreative in-line pad is quite expensive , I am still searching 😂😂
Hi Jordan!I'm using a CROWN MC-4US Professional 4 channel mixing console.it has AUX and EFFECT out which is the best to connect my phone? I'm a little bit confused.
Use the Aux if you have it.
Thank you very much for the help
Hello, again Jordan. Purchased all the cables you've suggested in the description for taking phone calls through a mixer. Sometimes, when I plug in the cables to the iPhone, I get a prompt saying "accessory not supported". When I'm able to get past the prompt, I can't even get a signal during the call. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance!
Are you using the official Apple Lightning > Headset adapter? It sounds like you're using a third party adapter.
@@kettnercreative Positive it's original.
@@ascensomultimedia Strange, that's the only time that I've seen an accessory not supported. Once the digital to analog conversion is done, there's nothing else for the device to support. This is exactly what that adapter is meant for.
I’m going to order a new lighting adapter to rule out it being bad. Thanks for the prompt response!
@@kettnercreative Hey Jordan. I bought a new adapter. Problem solved. The adapter I previously owned was bad. Thanks again!
i use an irig in conjunction with one of the monitor out to stream live and discuss with fans on instagram . so can i use this setup and not use my irig, to achieve the same result ?
Yeah, this is what we use.
@@kettnercreative thank u very much. im going to try it out .i really appreciate y’all
@@hugomonstah No problem at all
I was about to order an iRig2 for this kind of setup because I thought the level had to be lowered from the mixer to the phones microphone input. Does some part of your setup do this? e.g. the lightning adaptor, xlr spliter, or trs to xlr cable? Or is this not needed? Thanks
I ran into an issue. I have a person on the phone and a group of people in Zoom ( on iMac late 2013 with Headphone port: Headphone/optical digital audio output (minijack)) meeting and I want to connect all. With mix-minus and of course USB mode, folks in Zoom, hear themselves. Is there a way to fix this, please? I seems I cannot use the USB mode in my case! Aren't I correct?
You need a larger mixer so you can do two mix-minus setups.
@@kettnercreative Do you mean I should not use USB? I have MG12XU. It has two AUX1 and AUX2. I suppose If I don't want to use the onboard effects, I should be able to do two mix-minus setup. Aren't I correct?
I bought the phone adapter/splitter and followed the setup for a mix minus on this same mixer. I am able to get the caller's audio, and the caller can hear when I play music through another channel on the mixer. The only thing the caller is not able to hear is my voice coming through any of my mics from the mixer. Do you have any suggestions on how to get my mic's audio through to the caller? Thanks for your help.
If you follow the steps in this video, we discuss how to add the mics to the feed that goes to the caller.
@@kettnercreative I'm thinking I may have an issue with the splitter and or with the phones. I originally tried using a Samsung Galaxy and couldn't get the caller to hear me. However they were able to hear the music coming through the mixer. Then I used an iPhone and was able to get the mic to be heard on the other end of the call. However, the audio was distorted from my microphone and was changing levels every other second - going from high to low but never staying at a steady level nor clear. Have you ever had a problem with the splitter?
For reference I don't have any problems with mics, and music playing through the mixer when not trying to create a mix minus using the splitter.
@@kettnercreative I do have the same connections you have with double 1/4" going into 5/6 and and the 1/4" in the fx, both plugged into the splitter as you have it with 1/8" and xlr.
Thanks in advance for helping me figure this out.
@@three20media12 I have a very similar issue while using a Samsung Galaxy 10 phone. The caller comes through clearly over the speaker but they can't hear the audio coming from the microphones.
@@kennetht2362 I decided to try a new microphone after ordering a second splitter and having the same issue. I was originally using a shotgun mic. I bought the Shure SM58 and that seemed to fix the problem. To be clear, I didn't have any problems with the shotgun mic while using just the mixer. It wasn't until I used the splitter that I ran into issues. I'm not sure why the mic made the difference. Maybe @Kettner Creative will be able to explain. Hope that helps.
How could I do this with a voice communication software (discord) coming from my main PC which I play games and chat to friends on ?
What are you trying to do, just work with discord, or work with discord to integrate that chat into a live stream while playing a game?
Yeah to intergrate discord while playing a game while live streaming or not, I haven't got the mixer yet I'm just wondering is it somethings thats possible to seperate the audios so i can adjust volumes and stuff for each sorta thing
Is it possible to do that with Yamaha MG06x?
Unfortunately the MG06x doesn't have an aux/fx send that you can use for this.
Oh! good news!
So, can I do that process (mix minus) through any mixer with Aux/FX send?
@@flaviobojikian8012 Yes you can.
How do you set up a mix minus on a Mac book pro?
If you're using a MacBook Pro with this setup, you would need some type of USB device to give you the headphone out and mic/line input since they don't have a headset output built in. You could use a Sabrent USB Audio card on the low end and on the high end you could use a USB audio interface.
@@kettnercreative can you explain this set up? I’m using a MacBook Pro and trying to figure out recording Skype calls through the MGXU
The adapter in the video from the phone to the headSET is for iPhone. Does anyone have a link to an adapter that does the same thing for Android (usb-c to headSET)?
The reason that I am asking here is because of a rather strange anomaly I have discovered on Amazon. If you actually do a search for an adapter such as what is used in the video with the term headSET, the Amazon results - without fail - will return items labeled headPHONE regardless of how I structure the request of what I am looking for!
If anyone knows a "trick" I could use to get Amazon to leave out results containing the word, headPHONE, that would be deeply appreciated as well. I have literally and truthfully spent hours at Amazon and I cannot get past this incredibly persistent issue with the search results not containing the actual word I am looking for.
So, please, if anyone has a link to a USB-C to headSET converter, please pass it along.
Thanking you in advance for helping out!
Max
Apple does make a USBC one that work on android as well.
@@kettnercreative Hey Jordan - your videos are the best! I happen to use the Yamaha MG10XU. Nit being an "Apple Guy", if not Amazon, where do I go to find the USB-C / iPhone version of what you are using?
Thanks for your efforts. You are making a real difference!
Sincerely,
Max
@@MaxLaingDMP Hi Max, you can get the same adapter from any Best Buy, Walmart, Apple Store, or other Apple Dealer.
@@kettnercreative Oh! Excellent! Color me silly.
Thank you for the direction - but mostly for your effort toward sharing the knowledge you bestow on those of us in need of the "tricks or the trade" (grin).
As I stated before, you continue to make a real difference!
Sincerely and without hesitation,
Max
Is it that mix minus comes built in with zoom podtrack p4 / rode podcaster ? We are doing with cables right ? Because I couldn't find that adapter in my country .