@Bigdogwoofy Honestly little Mac is a piece of shit to fight as well. Fighting a Mac fair is a dumb idea so the matches are always cheese. I don't like zoners, but little Mac is also terribly unfun.
@Bigdogwoofy it’s kinda interesting that as long as Mac can put up a moderate fight vs zoners the match becomes more fun to watch as it turns from camping to mind games
@@greenamogus Hey now. You can't get mad when they do it seldom. Many times they just get in the zone and get really upset over the loss. I admit I've done it once, though the real unprofessionalism is when they refuse to shake hands with the other player. That right there is petty.
2:00 is a 10 out of 10 play-by-play. "Wow." "Ok..." " Was that a Bait-and-Punish-Whiff KO Punc-" "He just ran acros- it wasn't even a bait! He just ran!"
Also just an incredible move by Peanut. If you look just beforehand, he ran at Squid and then ran back, and Squid shielded in anticipation of an attack. After seeing this, Peanut did it again, and this time Squid spot dodged, and Peanut ran past him, getting just out of range of the whip that Squid tried to use coming out of the dodge, before running back and K.O. Punching him during the ending lag. It actually was a bait-and-punish when you look at the lead-up to it.
OMFG this had me on the edge of my seat. Cant believe peanut pulled it off against a freaking belmont!!! this man deserves a freaking medal! this just became my favorite set ever!!!
@@robertcrosswhite1229 it's bad but no where near the worst belmonts vs Luigi is worse. And the worst matchup in the game is pika vs Ganon . I know saying Mac is anything other than bottom tier makes you guys shit bricks but let's not make things up
If I was in this situation with MY little Mac I would’ve folded the first game with all those axes and whipcracks, Peanut absolutely put on a performance with his skill
As a Mac main in Smash 4 and someone who has pretty much dropped him entirely in Ultimate because of the number of bad MUs he has in this game, I have to applaud the amount of patience Peanut has for making Mac his 1st main. The Belmonts are super annoying.
Nah, nah; Mac can air stall a little bit with his aerials, which Peanut was doing the entire time. Not to mention good placement of double jump, above average air dodge, and that Up-B buff from a while ago...
Funny how Little Mac sheds some light on how many people suck at recovering by saying his recovery is bad. When it's actually better than several of the characters on roster.
Absolutely incredible gameplay from both here! As a Belmont main myself and as a fan of Peanut, I was quite torn by this video... but holy cow was it one to watch! Also, killer commentary! Skabs is doing a great job on the Mic!
@@voodooedits785 completely agree there. Fighting a good zoner and trying to find entry with Mac is super dookie mode. Squid’s ledge trap pressure was 10/10 and I wouldn’t have been able to mentally keep it together during that match. Props to peanut for doing so.
Even though both Mac and the belmonts are low tier, what makes the belmonts such a bad matchup for Mac is that their weakness (getting gimped) isn’t as prevalent as Mac can’t edgeguard all that much, and their strength (projectile pressure) is so much more devastating. Peanut had to work very hard to win the matches he did
@@EduardoFlores-bt4fo Idk bruv they just wanna feel superior ig? Even though they're watching 2 good players play while they wish they were even a fraction good
Unrespectable? Nah. Let me name a few, Pythra, Pikachu, ZSS, K. Rool, Steve in some circles. Belmonts are respectable if you don’t play them like a crayon-eater
@@Hi-fd4cw the only one of those that’s really unrespectable is Steve. The rest are either good if you put in the time to optimize them, or are k rool. If you lose to k rool you’re bad at the game 😂
@@tdawg490 K. Rool is so much more brain dead and unfun than Richter. Belmonts have to be constantly aware of their spacing across the stage, they get gimped easy, and they require a lot of precision. K. Rool can recover from literally anywhere, has bullshit edge guarding moves that require zero thought and has super armor that just ignores everything you do to him. You can launch a Belmont at half the damage you are likely to launch a K.Rool at. People who complain about Belmonts are just too impatient and bad at the matchup. I’ve never played a matchup against a Belmont in my life I felt was unfair for me.
This doesn't look like fun lol, it's like those times where one person just spam presses a button and wins like nothing, amazing that Peanut won this, such patience
nope, it's PacMan. PacMan has fast attacks that are big and safe, Belmonts are much slower, and his attack speed is slower, and it's easy to punish them a lot of the time. PacMan also has hydrant forcing Mac to jump. PacMan camps harder too.
@@KaGe_Kai that’s so smart. Using the IDJ to cancel knockback on defense (out of shield option). Most likely the opponent will think only a hard hitting move can break it setting up for a landing counter from lil Mac …. Ufff genius. I guess the other option the opponent has is to move out of range (platform or jump) , this is great for conditioning behavior.
I been watching peanut a lot lately cause I love those high risk moves like ko punch so I’m biased towards him winning, watching those rounds was mad annoying when your rooting for the non zoner but man that was one of the best matches I have ever watched. They both are so good
these commentators having no clue what they're talking about when commentating mac is hilarious and makes sense, little mac plays completely counterintuitively
I've only watched a few mins of this video so far but the amount of downplaying and disrespect these commentators are showing to Peanut is crazy, they even went as far as to say that Lil Mac's recovery is good (2:45) rather than just acknowledging Peanuts obvious skill and mastery of the character, idk why it annoyed me so much but maybe it was just me who noticed it.
I am not into elite smsh, that Richter seemed cheap. Also, Ive noticed Peanut is very adaptable, usually after losing the first game he comes back full force
To anyone that insists that Mac is anything other than low tier, watch this set. And I mean really watch it. Peanut had to play absolutely impeccably to get absolutely anything going, and spent 90% of the game at the ledge. Meanwhile Squidplumber (a good Belmont in his own right tbf) got away with a lot that Peanut simply could not do anything about. You can’t say a character isn’t “that bad” when they get so hardcore shut down by so much of the cast, that you have to play absolutely perfectly and make zero mistakes to do anything
@@jordandwiggins1026 Mac had opportunities to get close, rarely good Macs can close gaps against good zoners. Imagine being able to kill at those percents while being at the distance.
2:35 this recovery is unreal, how does he Up B diagonally as little Mac ? I've also noticed he uses Nair after side B and Dair after double jump while recovering, but damn
dw squid and I are friends
i wouldn't dance on someone i robbed a set from if I didn't know them lol
@Bigdogwoofy Honestly little Mac is a piece of shit to fight as well. Fighting a Mac fair is a dumb idea so the matches are always cheese. I don't like zoners, but little Mac is also terribly unfun.
@Bigdogwoofy it’s kinda interesting that as long as Mac can put up a moderate fight vs zoners the match becomes more fun to watch as it turns from camping to mind games
@@Tibovl Ah, the classic "zoners aren't the problem, Mac is" argument. Never gets old to see.
@@cornesalvo9366 Well they clearly both are. Mac is probably contestant for the worst designed character in this game.
@@cornesalvo9366 Also don't strawman me.
I don't understand how Peanut can mentally function after matches like these
Despite his young age, he is a professional. Whereas many older guys would slam their controllers against the floor.
Its what you should expect when picking little mac
@@UserOfTheName as a lil mac main, I agree
Tbf he didn't play a bad game throughout. I genuinely thought he was going to take game 1 by using K.O. punch twice in the same stock
@@greenamogus
Hey now. You can't get mad when they do it seldom. Many times they just get in the zone and get really upset over the loss. I admit I've done it once, though the real unprofessionalism is when they refuse to shake hands with the other player. That right there is petty.
Peanut navigating a fucking minefield
A mine field where all the mines are actively trying to find him.
Peanur has a knife, and ricther has all the arsenal
2:00 is a 10 out of 10 play-by-play.
"Wow."
"Ok..."
" Was that a Bait-and-Punish-Whiff KO Punc-"
"He just ran acros- it wasn't even a bait! He just ran!"
id like to commend your accurate transcription here
@@xtkaythen same
Also just an incredible move by Peanut. If you look just beforehand, he ran at Squid and then ran back, and Squid shielded in anticipation of an attack. After seeing this, Peanut did it again, and this time Squid spot dodged, and Peanut ran past him, getting just out of range of the whip that Squid tried to use coming out of the dodge, before running back and K.O. Punching him during the ending lag. It actually was a bait-and-punish when you look at the lead-up to it.
@@verfuncht I love the insane mental game Peanut brings to these matchups.
Peanut has the mental fortitude of a legend.
This is an underrated statement. The man is focused. His only enemy is frustration and he holds that beast back so he can concentrate.
That’s why he’s so good, it’s hard to be patient as Mac when your getting ass raped by holy water
That kamikaze Side B at round 2 by Peanut, yea nobody expected that options ever
To this day the Belmont family can still hear that airmac coming
OMFG this had me on the edge of my seat. Cant believe peanut pulled it off against a freaking belmont!!! this man deserves a freaking medal! this just became my favorite set ever!!!
Belmonts are bottom tier as well , don't forget
@@YounesLayachi this is probably the worst matchup in the game
@@YounesLayachi Bottom tier my ass. In comparison to Mac, the Belmonts are way up there.
@@robertcrosswhite1229 it's bad but no where near the worst belmonts vs Luigi is worse. And the worst matchup in the game is pika vs Ganon . I know saying Mac is anything other than bottom tier makes you guys shit bricks but let's not make things up
@@robertcrosswhite1229 how about mac vs minmin or young link ?
11:47 Little Mac destroyed Richter.
11:50 Peanut shows a very well-deserved jab jab (shake-my-hand) to the kid.
They are friends irl
@@Sioniz ur right, I was just making a joke because he seemed mad.
@@jaas3926 understandable
Bad joke
@@AJ-zr2le bad comment :^)
Bruh that zoning was elite, I'd be crying my ass off.
nothing elite here about how mindless spamming work in smash.
@@rayymondmorgan1697 Elite Level
@@limedmrfac2615 Table spoon. Nothing elite level about how mindless spamming work inn smash.
@@rayymondmorgan1697 Elite level spam
@@rayymondmorgan1697 get good bro
One of mac's worst matchups. The Belmont play was top notch, Peanut just got in the right moments. Great play.
For a zoner vs a pure melee character, this was surprisingly fun to watch because each player played so well
Tbh zones vs melee will always be hype in every fighting game. I played zangief in sf5 and the guile matchup was my favourite, to see and play.
This guy is such a spammer
@@_kelso9959 belmont is a spammer. it's literally what he does
@@_kelso9959 beating peanut’s little mack is no easy feat though so respect where is due but honestly this is a terrible matchup for any little mack.
Zoners be like
LMAO
B
"TAKE THIS"
I know Jeeesus Christ
Ikr, they're so like skin cancer or smth
If I was in this situation with MY little Mac I would’ve folded the first game with all those axes and whipcracks, Peanut absolutely put on a performance with his skill
That set ended on the world's most satisfying KO Punch. Not since Sol's Duck Hunt tree KO Punch in Smash 4 did I pop off for a hit like that.
Mac running through Richter to come back to the KO punch was unbelievable. Amazing.
Squidplumber looked pissed, like bro you just played a zoner against little Mac and lost😂😂😂😂
my jaw was on the floor at the last stock of the second match. 7:14 ish. That movement is beyond insane.
Ya i couldnt believe he side b off map hes dead after that not mater he hits it or not
As a Mac main in Smash 4 and someone who has pretty much dropped him entirely in Ultimate because of the number of bad MUs he has in this game, I have to applaud the amount of patience Peanut has for making Mac his 1st main. The Belmonts are super annoying.
I call hacks on peanuts recovery with Lil Mac.
Nah, nah; Mac can air stall a little bit with his aerials, which Peanut was doing the entire time. Not to mention good placement of double jump, above average air dodge, and that Up-B buff from a while ago...
Funny how Little Mac sheds some light on how many people suck at recovering by saying his recovery is bad. When it's actually better than several of the characters on roster.
@@LuvMehSi everybody talks about how mac’s recovery sucks when some recoveries literally send you catapulting into the blast zone
@@BTPhoenix1244 and the fact that somehow not that many people know you can angle the up-b by moving the joystick right after starting it
That satisfying moment when the projectile spamming Richter still looses. 😆🤘
whats the point in even adding "projectile spamming" to that sentence? Its just Richter lol
And then Peanut said “HOW BOUT YOU TAKE THIS”
As a little mac main what did it cost you to excel mentally🤤 I'd be damn if.little mac went on a mine field and survive.
Im a Mac main too I would just quit
I physically cannot comprehend what kind of person you have to be to enjoy playing richter
That las K.O. Punch was
R A W
Came for peanut, stayed for squid. What match holy shit, some tight gameplay on both sides
Absolutely incredible gameplay from both here! As a Belmont main myself and as a fan of Peanut, I was quite torn by this video... but holy cow was it one to watch!
Also, killer commentary! Skabs is doing a great job on the Mic!
Peanut the GOAT. One of the worst matchups ever and yet, Peanut’s mac still reigns.
Mac has a billion bad matchups
@@voodooedits785 completely agree there. Fighting a good zoner and trying to find entry with Mac is super dookie mode. Squid’s ledge trap pressure was 10/10 and I wouldn’t have been able to mentally keep it together during that match. Props to peanut for doing so.
Even though both Mac and the belmonts are low tier, what makes the belmonts such a bad matchup for Mac is that their weakness (getting gimped) isn’t as prevalent as Mac can’t edgeguard all that much, and their strength (projectile pressure) is so much more devastating. Peanut had to work very hard to win the matches he did
Let's go peanut
very happy for peanut!
I feel the frustration just sitting here watching that set.
that bussy guy is pretty good but deeznuts took the well deserved win
After the first round I would literally jump over the table
Sit the ruck down kid. I'm always gonna go for peanut especially when he fights zoning characters.
What kind if adult uses the term "kid" as an insult? I dont know any functioning one who does it
Naw I dont blame him fighting little mac, such a cheesy character
@@EduardoFlores-bt4fo Idk bruv they just wanna feel superior ig? Even though they're watching 2 good players play while they wish they were even a fraction good
11:47 Respect for both but outmost respect for Peanut, this is practically a counter pick in a sense but he sill pulled through! GGWP!
This has gotta be Mac’s second worse matchup after Min Min
“THATS WHY HESSS THE GOOOOAT, THE GOOAT!”
Holy shit, good smash announcers? That know what they're talking about? This is unheard of lol
I came here to see how Peanut would do against one of the most unrespectable fighters in smash. Needless to say I'm proud.
Unrespectable? Nah. Let me name a few, Pythra, Pikachu, ZSS, K. Rool, Steve in some circles. Belmonts are respectable if you don’t play them like a crayon-eater
Watch Dom instead.
@@Hi-fd4cw the only one of those that’s really unrespectable is Steve. The rest are either good if you put in the time to optimize them, or are k rool. If you lose to k rool you’re bad at the game 😂
@@tdawg490 K. Rool is so much more brain dead and unfun than Richter. Belmonts have to be constantly aware of their spacing across the stage, they get gimped easy, and they require a lot of precision. K. Rool can recover from literally anywhere, has bullshit edge guarding moves that require zero thought and has super armor that just ignores everything you do to him. You can launch a Belmont at half the damage you are likely to launch a K.Rool at. People who complain about Belmonts are just too impatient and bad at the matchup. I’ve never played a matchup against a Belmont in my life I felt was unfair for me.
@@jordandwiggins1026 Fr Belmont can just cover option, k rool is genuinely a cheese character
3:14 I felt that
Peanut is a beast
How was he raging at Peanut at the end when he was playing one of Mac’s main counters LMAO.
So, judging by the amount of likes, I'd say that Peanut won.
how is nobody talking about that one commentators pillow mic
Wow it couldn't end in a more perfect way, after all that struggle it must have been amazing to get that last hit.
I love how patient peanut is with airdodges but instead of air dodging why not just throw out nair or a hit box?
They're scared of armor.
Richter and Belmont has to be one of the most annoying characters. This was a nightmare to watch.
Damn, peanut getting his hand destroyed at the end there
That interaction at the end, I'm dead
how does he jump so high with his up-B ??? can someone tell me
This doesn't look like fun lol, it's like those times where one person just spam presses a button and wins like nothing, amazing that Peanut won this, such patience
This is just pk fire with extra steps.
@@astupidlylongnamethatstoolong and on steroids
I mean atleast Mac's fast and has an incredible burst range. Imagine fighting this with a slow character like incin or Ganon
@@vishalmenon4595 Using Ganon would literally be impossible
@@vishalmenon4595 you're just torturing yourself
This is a painful match-up to watch regardless of the outcome 😂
This has to be Macs worst matchup. Jesus.
pac
Peanut thinks it’s pac , but same goes for richter
Nah pac is a whole another level
nope, it's PacMan. PacMan has fast attacks that are big and safe, Belmonts are much slower, and his attack speed is slower, and it's easy to punish them a lot of the time. PacMan also has hydrant forcing Mac to jump. PacMan camps harder too.
Min-Min. By a huge margin.
Now peanut🥜 needs to learn the frame 11 Side-B outta shield option.
I was thinking this exactly! if peanut could do the IDJ side B...... DANGEROUS PLAYER on field!!
@@MugEdge8 cause I do it and I was wondering why couldn't peanut do this out of shield and maybe with Neutral-B
@@KaGe_Kai that’s so smart. Using the IDJ to cancel knockback on defense (out of shield option). Most likely the opponent will think only a hard hitting move can break it setting up for a landing counter from lil Mac …. Ufff genius. I guess the other option the opponent has is to move out of range (platform or jump) , this is great for conditioning behavior.
@@MugEdge8 I expect every Mac player to do this, but it's has to be somewhat frame perfect.
I've never wanted to remove soneone's fingers so much in my entire life.
Bro just keeps spamming the "TAKE THIS!" Like my God
I can't believe he won that matchup. Give this man a medal
2:37 did lil mac get a recovery buff?
I think so
I think he throws out aerials to increase his distance
Popping that ko punch love it
So spammy, how’s it tournament legal smh.
Would’ve jumped across the monitor by the end of the match
Belmont mains be like: *"YEAH BUT THEY FUN THO"*
absolute legend.
7:30 GAHD DAYUM!!! WP Peanut. Respect.
I wanna say it was a miracle, but peanuts worked too hard for any of his matches to be called luck
Zoning is just socal smash lmao
Go Peanut!!
Peanut is a model of bravour, patience and devotion.
Squid was good but was allergic to Peanut
If this were Initial D, this would be Peanut's gumtape deathmatch.
I been watching peanut a lot lately cause I love those high risk moves like ko punch so I’m biased towards him winning, watching those rounds was mad annoying when your rooting for the non zoner but man that was one of the best matches I have ever watched. They both are so good
I've got tons of love for castlevania. But my god, the smash characters are just pure cancer.
peanut's patience is on another level
Commentator playing "chubby bunny" every time someone says little mac
Incredible play!
Great placement of projectiles, too bad it's super annoying
TIL: down tilt-Fsmash pops shield
It's like seeing a lion tamer taming a lion
As a Peanut-inspired Mac main, watching this match up sets me on fire. I really have no respect for Simon and Richter mains
Uhhh why was the one announcer trying to justify macs recovery? It's total ass - peanut is just making miracles to even come back
Nah its not too bad
@@Peanut_SSBU Appreciate ya, but gonna have to disagree. Not many recoveries worse than Mac. Commentator was tripping.
@@Peanut_SSBU Well if it comes from the legend himself, I'll update my take. Cheers on the awesome tourney run, it was a blast watching you play :D
@@guacattack9132 Mac’s recovery is actually pretty good horizontal wise, vertical is where he gets trouble.
TAKE THIS
I don't know why, but playing against this crap...makes it really hard to respect the player.
Good on peanut for making it through the storm of projectiles that is richter belmont
peanut is so sick
I would have already given up
these commentators having no clue what they're talking about when commentating mac is hilarious and makes sense, little mac plays completely counterintuitively
Great set peanut you played fantastically
2:35 🥸 bruh how
Yeah bruh how
I know him!!!!
let’s ggoooo peanut !!!
There will be water if God wills it. Sounds like someone's read The Dark Tower!
I've only watched a few mins of this video so far but the amount of downplaying and disrespect these commentators are showing to Peanut is crazy, they even went as far as to say that Lil Mac's recovery is good (2:45) rather than just acknowledging Peanuts obvious skill and mastery of the character, idk why it annoyed me so much but maybe it was just me who noticed it.
IMO richter is the least fun character to watch
sonic
Why doesn't he use mac's counters?? He was put in so many good spots to use it against Richter's mid range / zoning. Good game tho
Richter is so toxic
I've always hated playing against characters and/or players that just spam throwing things
This match-up gives me anxiety
he misses the chair 3:26
Maybe I suck at Richter but all I saw was him using holy water into f tilt spam
zoners be like: my 🅱️ressure is nasty
I am not into elite smsh, that Richter seemed cheap. Also, Ive noticed Peanut is very adaptable, usually after losing the first game he comes back full force
To anyone that insists that Mac is anything other than low tier, watch this set. And I mean really watch it.
Peanut had to play absolutely impeccably to get absolutely anything going, and spent 90% of the game at the ledge. Meanwhile Squidplumber (a good Belmont in his own right tbf) got away with a lot that Peanut simply could not do anything about.
You can’t say a character isn’t “that bad” when they get so hardcore shut down by so much of the cast, that you have to play absolutely perfectly and make zero mistakes to do anything
And yet Mac was frequently killing Richter at like 30-60% range while Mac was always surviving to 140+ damage.
@@jordandwiggins1026 But that is not because little mac is good is the other guy can't kill him
@@jordandwiggins1026
Mac had opportunities to get close, rarely good Macs can close gaps against good zoners.
Imagine being able to kill at those percents while being at the distance.
He should have used the counter more often it would have helped mac in this matchup
"I don't wanna hear little mac a bad recovery"
PepeTired
2:35 this recovery is unreal, how does he Up B diagonally as little Mac ?
I've also noticed he uses Nair after side B and Dair after double jump while recovering, but damn
@@YounesLayachi dair helps horizontal recovery
Every character with decent edgeguard game gimp him everytime because its so linear, its always the same option
@@YounesLayachi You can drift up special from left to right if you buffer the direction.
@@LuvMehSi only from left to right ? Wow