Sir, You did an AMAZING JOB of explaining this system and its installation. Thank You very much for taking the time to do this video, have a GREAT week and PLEASE stay healthy and safe out there!
@@JaredDesrosiersusing pex or copper +100 years its a concern for many of homeowners. Chlorine or hevay metal and minerals ventually degrade the piping lines... questions are thess remove chlorine also ??
The system will remove the salt from the water softener so when your washing, you can actually tell that you got all the soap off yourself. Some people do not like the water coming out of water softeners.
Unfortunately my home and many others the copper coming out of my main goes straight up along the ceiling joists so you either install on a ladder or have to do a heck of a lot of plumbing to bring it down. Great video
I love the install you have here for the filters and will likely duplicate it. However, you should put the filter system before the water softener in the chain because removing the chlorine before the softener should theoretically make your resin tank last longer.
Olive oil can be a food for biologics in the system, and some oils can degrade the O rings depending on what they are made of. Best to use food grade silicone grease, it's what Express Water reccomends.
I have this system as well, mine is the ultimate and I installed the optional spin down filter. Just recently the city replaced my water meter and disturbed a ton of magnesium in the line and my spin down caught most of it! You can remove and clean, and reinstall the spindown and I beleive it saved my sediment filter. I also installed the undersink reverse osmosis system and I'm upgrading it with there mineral replacement filter. I might even install there uv filter too.
Great Job. Why install it after the water softener and not before? Would think cleaning the water before it reaches the water softener would be better for the water softer. Looking forward to your response. TY!
There’s a lot of conflicting information about this. However, I read that if you have high levels of chlorine and sediment, you should install the filters before the softener. If you have high levels of calcium or magnesium, install the filters after the softener. I have the latter, so that was the right choice for me. If I could go back (this was my previous house), I would have added a separate sediment filter before the softener, because the tank did get nasty after a while.
Hi Jared, I just purchased the Express system awaiting it's delivery, I have a question is it absolutley nessessary to do the by pass part of it? only because I have a space issue. Everything else will fit just fine. Great video very informative.
Thanks for the wonderful video. After I watched your video, I decided to buy the Ultimate Protection one. After finishing install the system, water is at 350 ppm when tested. I don’t know if this is right or not. Does anyone know?
What type of test are you performing that is giving you a result of 350 ppm? That seems high for total dissolved solids… Although, there could be many different factors at play here causing that result - including residual carbon from the filters if they haven’t been flushed out completely.
If you haven’t already, you need to run tour cold water for at least 30 minutes straight. This removes air bubbles and loose carbon particles from the filters. After that, you should be good to go.
Jared awesome video, i just bought mine and hope to install it this coming weekend....... let me ask you, do you think its ok to use CPVC shut of valves instead of the ones that you installed?
I don’t care for CPVC valves because they tend to become hard to turn over time and I’ve had the handles break on me trying to close/open them. Besides that CPVC is technically okay to use if you’re only running cold water through it.
Thank you for this. I have a question regarding replacing the filters after 6 months. Is it as simple as cutting the water to the filter and opening the bypass, and unscrewing the filter housings and just replacing the filters and opening the valves again?
Yes, pretty much. You’ll also want to press the red pressure release button after bypassing the water flow to release pressure in the pipe to make removing the housing easier. Other than that, it looks like you’re good to go.
I want to install this system but my pre-plumbing has a drain pipe connecting directing into the water supply line, what am i supposed to do with the drain line?
Do you believe from your experience that the smaller 2.5” x 10” canisters would have worked for your whole house too, but obviously with more often changes of filters? We (2 people) live in a 2.5 bath Florida condo, and our courtyard is where we have access to our 3/4” PVC pipes to install a similar 3-stage system (so this is going outside in a makeshift cabinet to protect it from the sun and weather). Anyway, those larger 20” canisters you have look great, but we’d find it easier to work with a downsized set IF we can. So what has been your experience? Could you imagine the same system working for you if it was downsized to the smaller canisters?
If you want to go smaller, I’d suggest 4.5” x 10” if you’re filtering the whole house. I would also suggest a pleated sediment filter as the first stage. Pleated filters have more surface area and will have a longer life than spun or woven types, plus a higher flow rate. The other 2 stages should be fine in a smaller 4.5” x 10” format, but as you mentioned, may have to be changed more frequently (like every 6 months).
I have a quick question- about install a 3 stage system in my house. Why did you install after the filter after the softener? Wouldn’t the filter, filter out most of the salt brine before it hits the house? Ultimately making the softener pointless? I was planning on going directly from the water in, so the filtered water then hits the softener, then the house. I’m not a plumber or water guy by any means, so wanted to get your thoughts on it to see if I was thinking about wrong or not. Thanks,
The filters won’t filter out dissolved solids like salt. They only filter out particulates from the water like metals, sediment, etc… In my experience with high purity water systems, I can tell you that those also have the softener stage before finer filter skids.
when you use the red pressure release valves when its time to remove filter housings, where does the water drain? Does it end up on top where the button and stainless flat part is, or does it run down the side of the filters towards the floor, or does it just get everywhere? thanks
The water comes out of the side of the red button. Most of it just sits on top of the stainless brackets. Some might drip to the floor. I already have a bucket under the filter at this point because a lot of water drips out when you remove the old filter.
I am looking to set this up for my home. However, i have a few questions. Can this work if the "well water" goes straight to the filtration system and then onto a tank which then distributes to my home? Second Question does it requires a pressurized system in order to work?
Hi just bought the same like yours. Do you recommend 1 inch water pipes or 3/4 is ok? Also my wife is very concerned about pex because technically is plastic, she said that copper is the way to go.what is your opinion on it?
Congrats on the purchase. I recommend that you stick with the same size pipe that is already installed in the section you’ll be installing the filter system. Therefore, if you already have 3/4” pipe, stick with that, don’t upsize it. Regarding pipe material, I agree that copper is better than pex. If you have copper pipes already, definitely use that instead. I only used pex because my entire house already has it…
I was able to fix the leak by redoing and bought tinning flux and no leaks, but the pressure is a little low. I have well water with pressure tank and pump. The default is 30- 50. Is it OK to increase to 40 -60?
@dans9462 yeah, you should be able to safely increase the pressure tank by 10 psi. Just verify that you are still operating below the maximum pressure limit as stated on the tank.
No, because each filter has a pressure gauge so you can determine which filter is your choke point. Putting a gauge before and after filters allows you to see where the flow of water is being impeded.
@@timhand2503Ok, what does it mean if the last gauge is lower than the previous ones? It could mean any of the filters are full but you don't know which one. But if you had a gauge before the filters you can compare the pressure before and pinpoint which filter is full.
Curious! You have an upstream cutoff before the filters. You have a cutoff in the bypass line and a cutoff in the downstream line coming from the filters. The upstream cutoff would redirect the water around the filters so what purpose does the cutoff in the downstream line exiting the filters serve?
That’s just to stop water from pouring out from downstream piping when changing the filters. Without shutting it off there, it would result in a lot of water escaping from that section of piping.
is this considered a water softener? i have a lot of build up on my shower heads and skins and im trying to figure out how to stop that. whats the difference between the softener and why would you soften then filter it? doesnt the water softener do that?
The standard filter system is not a water softener, but the Anti-Scale System is. This system will both soften and filter your water. Traditional water softeners only exchange salt ions to reduce scaling and hard water, but do not filter particulates.
Yes it can sit on the floor. Unscrewing the canisters while the system is secured to the wall or floor and depressurized is not very difficult using the included filter wrench. You do need to put some power into it to get loosened, but then they turn freely.
I have serviced this exact system a week ago and having it securely bolted to the wall, at a comfortable working height (like Jared had) is a real benefit. Those sitting on the floor while bolted to the wall are far less convenient to work on.
Ultimate protection filters out more impurities, but it’s more expensive. If you know or suspect that your water contains many impurities then Ultimate protection is the way to go.
I am filtering well water that has a lot of mineral and iron content, but is otherwise clean. Therefore, the standard system was good enough for me. If you have city or town water, I’d recommend the higher grade system.
@@JaredDesrosiers How about the Heavy Metal system ? I have high Nitrates in my well and also have a Fleck softener , but was told the HMS model was the only one that will remove it !
Yes, I would go with the HMS in your case. The different filter cartridges use the same housings, so you could change only the filter(s) in the future if needed without buying a whole new system. Basically, you’re not forced into one system or another after buying because you can change filter types if needed.
@@JaredDesrosiers I also have tropical fish 🐠 and everyone says go with RO, but that takes up all my space under the sink plus takes so so long to do a water change each week ! ?
I'm looking for something else to replace my salt water softener system, I'm tire of lifting 40lb bags of salt to fill up my system every month. It's just me and my wife and we drink bottle water from the store. We don't have a pool and have desert landscape with a couple small trees and several bushes. The only real water we use is for shower, dishwasher, toilets and sinks. Apparently our water company uses wells around the town to supply water to our house. From my little water tester (Digital TDS Meter) is says our water is only acceptable drinking water. We have a RO water system at the sink for cooking and the ice maker. Will a Whole House Filtration system replace my salt water system? I could use the extra storage space too.
Tip: Never add a full bypass over all of your filters. You should at least have a 100 micron filter which can't be bypassed. You better temporarily have no water instead of clogging some faucet, shower head, toilet tank,... with an accidental piece of debris.
@@nikolagrudev3128 anything that's sucked up by the pump and is larger than the endpoint (tap filter, regulation valve, pressure relief valve,...) will be stuck there forever. That's why each filter setup starts with a washable filter. Just never bypass it during cleaning or you are gambling
Sir, You did an AMAZING JOB of explaining this system and its installation. Thank You very much for taking the time to do this video, have a GREAT week and PLEASE stay healthy and safe out there!
Thanks man you did a great job explaining it. You were to the point and showed all the steps needed. Thanks for everything
I am so thankful for this unit! The funky well water taste and smell we get in the springtime is finally gone.
Jared, you did an excellent job of explaining the Whole House 3 Stage Express Water Filtration System. Thank you.
Thank you
@@JaredDesrosiersusing pex or copper +100 years its a concern for many of homeowners. Chlorine or hevay metal and minerals ventually degrade the piping lines... questions are thess remove chlorine also ??
@@JaredDesrosiershow well this systems works any leaks ??
why wouldnt you run the 3 stage filter and then the water softner? Wouldnt that help prevent the softner from being clogged with sediment/etc?
Exactly! You extend the life of your water softner if you put the filters first.
The system will remove the salt from the water softener so when your washing, you can actually tell that you got all the soap off yourself. Some people do not like the water coming out of water softeners.
I have ny sediment filter upstream from my water softener. My source water is heavy with rust, which will choke the resin beads in the softener.
UV light water filter system great idea?
Unfortunately my home and many others the copper coming out of my main goes straight up along the ceiling joists so you either install on a ladder or have to do a heck of a lot of plumbing to bring it down. Great video
I love the install you have here for the filters and will likely duplicate it. However, you should put the filter system before the water softener in the chain because removing the chlorine before the softener should theoretically make your resin tank last longer.
DIY and showing others are huge wins 🎉🎉❤❤ thank you sir 🙌🌅🌅🥳
Subscribed. You gave me the confidence to take on this exact task.
Apply some olive oil onto all the entire O rings. This is will prevent degradation of dry O ting friction when filters are applied and tightened.
Olive oil can be a food for biologics in the system, and some oils can degrade the O rings depending on what they are made of. Best to use food grade silicone grease, it's what Express Water reccomends.
I have this system as well, mine is the ultimate and I installed the optional spin down filter. Just recently the city replaced my water meter and disturbed a ton of magnesium in the line and my spin down caught most of it! You can remove and clean, and reinstall the spindown and I beleive it saved my sediment filter.
I also installed the undersink reverse osmosis system and I'm upgrading it with there mineral replacement filter. I might even install there uv filter too.
Thank you for the video. With approximation how much will a plumber charge for the installation in Peoria Arizona? Thank you.
Do you have alist of materials used, pipes fittings etc? Great video
Great Job. Why install it after the water softener and not before? Would think cleaning the water before it reaches the water softener would be better for the water softer. Looking forward to your response. TY!
There’s a lot of conflicting information about this. However, I read that if you have high levels of chlorine and sediment, you should install the filters before the softener. If you have high levels of calcium or magnesium, install the filters after the softener. I have the latter, so that was the right choice for me. If I could go back (this was my previous house), I would have added a separate sediment filter before the softener, because the tank did get nasty after a while.
Hi Jared, I just purchased the Express system awaiting it's delivery, I have a question is it absolutley nessessary to do the by pass part of it? only because I have a space issue. Everything else will fit just fine. Great video very informative.
The bypass is not required, just good to have. Ultimately, you’ll be fine without it. Thank you by the way!
Great video, I learned a lot from this video. Thank
Thanks for the wonderful video. After I watched your video, I decided to buy the Ultimate Protection one. After finishing install the system, water is at 350 ppm when tested. I don’t know if this is right or not. Does anyone know?
What type of test are you performing that is giving you a result of 350 ppm? That seems high for total dissolved solids… Although, there could be many different factors at play here causing that result - including residual carbon from the filters if they haven’t been flushed out completely.
I used Hone Forest tester
TDS
How do I flush it out may I ask
If you haven’t already, you need to run tour cold water for at least 30 minutes straight. This removes air bubbles and loose carbon particles from the filters. After that, you should be good to go.
Jared awesome video, i just bought mine and hope to install it this coming weekend....... let me ask you, do you think its ok to use CPVC shut of valves instead of the ones that you installed?
I don’t care for CPVC valves because they tend to become hard to turn over time and I’ve had the handles break on me trying to close/open them. Besides that CPVC is technically okay to use if you’re only running cold water through it.
nice great video very well explain awesome
Great job 👏 and great video. Thank you 🔥
Thank you for this. I have a question regarding replacing the filters after 6 months. Is it as simple as cutting the water to the filter and opening the bypass, and unscrewing the filter housings and just replacing the filters and opening the valves again?
Yes, pretty much. You’ll also want to press the red pressure release button after bypassing the water flow to release pressure in the pipe to make removing the housing easier. Other than that, it looks like you’re good to go.
@@JaredDesrosiers you’re the man
I want to install this system but my pre-plumbing has a drain pipe connecting directing into the water supply line, what am i supposed to do with the drain line?
Do you believe from your experience that the smaller 2.5” x 10” canisters would have worked for your whole house too, but obviously with more often changes of filters? We (2 people) live in a 2.5 bath Florida condo, and our courtyard is where we have access to our 3/4” PVC pipes to install a similar 3-stage system (so this is going outside in a makeshift cabinet to protect it from the sun and weather). Anyway, those larger 20” canisters you have look great, but we’d find it easier to work with a downsized set IF we can. So what has been your experience? Could you imagine the same system working for you if it was downsized to the smaller canisters?
If you want to go smaller, I’d suggest 4.5” x 10” if you’re filtering the whole house. I would also suggest a pleated sediment filter as the first stage. Pleated filters have more surface area and will have a longer life than spun or woven types, plus a higher flow rate. The other 2 stages should be fine in a smaller 4.5” x 10” format, but as you mentioned, may have to be changed more frequently (like every 6 months).
I have a quick question- about install a 3 stage system in my house. Why did you install after the filter after the softener? Wouldn’t the filter, filter out most of the salt brine before it hits the house? Ultimately making the softener pointless? I was planning on going directly from the water in, so the filtered water then hits the softener, then the house. I’m not a plumber or water guy by any means, so wanted to get your thoughts on it to see if I was thinking about wrong or not.
Thanks,
The filters won’t filter out dissolved solids like salt. They only filter out particulates from the water like metals, sediment, etc… In my experience with high purity water systems, I can tell you that those also have the softener stage before finer filter skids.
Thanks for confirming! Really appreciate the info. Great video!
Any time, thanks!
Anyone know if you can change which filter you want? I had the three standard but what if I replaced ACB with KDF?
awesome work!!!
when you use the red pressure release valves when its time to remove filter housings, where does the water drain? Does it end up on top where the button and stainless flat part is, or does it run down the side of the filters towards the floor, or does it just get everywhere? thanks
The water comes out of the side of the red button. Most of it just sits on top of the stainless brackets. Some might drip to the floor. I already have a bucket under the filter at this point because a lot of water drips out when you remove the old filter.
Great video.
I am looking to set this up for my home. However, i have a few questions. Can this work if the "well water" goes straight to the filtration system and then onto a tank which then distributes to my home? Second Question does it requires a pressurized system in order to work?
You should have this filter system after the pressure tank that distributes water to your house. It does need some pressure to work efficiently.
Hi just bought the same like yours.
Do you recommend 1 inch water pipes or 3/4 is ok?
Also my wife is very concerned about pex because technically is plastic, she said that copper is the way to go.what is your opinion on it?
Congrats on the purchase. I recommend that you stick with the same size pipe that is already installed in the section you’ll be installing the filter system. Therefore, if you already have 3/4” pipe, stick with that, don’t upsize it.
Regarding pipe material, I agree that copper is better than pex. If you have copper pipes already, definitely use that instead. I only used pex because my entire house already has it…
Thank you for all your help
You were right choosing pex mine leaked, and I have to redo it
Oh man! Pex does have an advantage of being more forgiving with installation. Good luck with everything.
I was able to fix the leak by redoing and bought tinning flux and no leaks, but the pressure is a little low.
I have well water with pressure tank and pump. The default is 30- 50. Is it OK to increase to 40 -60?
@dans9462 yeah, you should be able to safely increase the pressure tank by 10 psi. Just verify that you are still operating below the maximum pressure limit as stated on the tank.
Shouldn't there be a gauge before the filters too? That way you can see the pressure drop before, during and after filters.
No, because each filter has a pressure gauge so you can determine which filter is your choke point. Putting a gauge before and after filters allows you to see where the flow of water is being impeded.
@@timhand2503Ok, what does it mean if the last gauge is lower than the previous ones? It could mean any of the filters are full but you don't know which one. But if you had a gauge before the filters you can compare the pressure before and pinpoint which filter is full.
Is there an update to this setup? Does running the system slow down the flow of water whether shower or kitchen sink are running at same time?
I never noticed any difference in water pressure.
Curious! You have an upstream cutoff before the filters. You have a cutoff in the bypass line and a cutoff in the downstream line coming from the filters. The upstream cutoff would redirect the water around the filters so what purpose does the cutoff in the downstream line exiting the filters serve?
That’s just to stop water from pouring out from downstream piping when changing the filters. Without shutting it off there, it would result in a lot of water escaping from that section of piping.
@@JaredDesrosiers Thanks Jared! Sorry for the stupid question. I should have seen that!!!
@kenlemmond673 no worries! It wasn’t a stupid question!
is this considered a water softener? i have a lot of build up on my shower heads and skins and im trying to figure out how to stop that. whats the difference between the softener and why would you soften then filter it? doesnt the water softener do that?
The standard filter system is not a water softener, but the Anti-Scale System is. This system will both soften and filter your water. Traditional water softeners only exchange salt ions to reduce scaling and hard water, but do not filter particulates.
Great video 👍 🛠 You look a lot like cricket player Kane Williamson of NZ.
Lol, thanks
@jaredrosters can this filter be made to sit in the floor? How’s the difficulty with changing and unscrewing the canisters?
Yes it can sit on the floor. Unscrewing the canisters while the system is secured to the wall or floor and depressurized is not very difficult using the included filter wrench. You do need to put some power into it to get loosened, but then they turn freely.
I have serviced this exact system a week ago and having it securely bolted to the wall, at a comfortable working height (like Jared had) is a real benefit. Those sitting on the floor while bolted to the wall are far less convenient to work on.
Do you recommend the Whole House
Ultimate Protection
Unit ? What is the difference between that and the standard unit ?
Ultimate protection filters out more impurities, but it’s more expensive. If you know or suspect that your water contains many impurities then Ultimate protection is the way to go.
I am filtering well water that has a lot of mineral and iron content, but is otherwise clean. Therefore, the standard system was good enough for me. If you have city or town water, I’d recommend the higher grade system.
@@JaredDesrosiers How about the Heavy Metal system ? I have high Nitrates in my well and also have a Fleck softener , but was told the HMS model was the only one that will remove it !
Yes, I would go with the HMS in your case. The different filter cartridges use the same housings, so you could change only the filter(s) in the future if needed without buying a whole new system.
Basically, you’re not forced into one system or another after buying because you can change filter types if needed.
@@JaredDesrosiers I also have tropical fish 🐠 and everyone says go with RO, but that takes up all my space under the sink plus takes so so long to do a water change each week ! ?
Is the order of filters important? If so , can you explain please ?
Yes the order is important. The 1st in the series filters larger particles. As you go down the line, the particle size that is filtered decreases.
@@JaredDesrosiersI have a noise problem with mine.
I'm looking for something else to replace my salt water softener system, I'm tire of lifting 40lb bags of salt to fill up my system every month. It's just me and my wife and we drink bottle water from the store. We don't have a pool and have desert landscape with a couple small trees and several bushes. The only real water we use is for shower, dishwasher, toilets and sinks. Apparently our water company uses wells around the town to supply water to our house. From my little water tester (Digital TDS Meter) is says our water is only acceptable drinking water. We have a RO water system at the sink for cooking and the ice maker. Will a Whole House Filtration system replace my salt water system? I could use the extra storage space too.
Check out their Anti-Scale system. That should replace your salt.
Hi, what is the brand of the softener you have installed there?
Fleck 5600 water softener
You are goood, thank you!
Can water softener be installed after filter system?
Technically, yes it can.
What are the red buttons for?
Pressing them releases pressure in the system after closing the valves so you can unscrew the filter housings.
Do you still have chlorine in your water? I installed express ultimate protection and I still have chlorine but I really like the taste of it.
Damn that's why I want to buy one.
Does this system remove iron?
Yes
@@JaredDesrosiers thank you
pharmaceuticals? like fluoride?
This filter will not remove fluoride. You need RO for that.
@@JaredDesrosierswhat about the
Whole House
Ultimate Protection unit ? Will that remove everything?
Anyone ever have a harmonic noise coming from there system
Song? Artist?
He has it backwards.. filters always go before softner. Then 1 post filter usually a 5 micron. But this is not the way to do it.
That looks like something The Three Stooges hooked up
He actually did a good job. Ps I'm a tradesman.
@@chrisscafa2065 just joking
Tip: Never add a full bypass over all of your filters. You should at least have a 100 micron filter which can't be bypassed.
You better temporarily have no water instead of clogging some faucet, shower head, toilet tank,... with an accidental piece of debris.
Can you explain more? Would this debris somehow escape the filter and be large enough to clog something?
@@nikolagrudev3128 anything that's sucked up by the pump and is larger than the endpoint (tap filter, regulation valve, pressure relief valve,...) will be stuck there forever.
That's why each filter setup starts with a washable filter. Just never bypass it during cleaning or you are gambling
softener should be AFTER the filters