Someone once spent 8 years as my "best friend" and then I found out it was because she was hoping that whole time to bring me to religion. If you are religious that's fine but don't ever do that to someone, that was one of the hardest losses I have ever endured
@SevenMillionHobbies not a friend anymore, not for a long time, that left me pretty traumatized be because she was suddenly just gone. I was pretty shocked too
Don't take it personally. There is a chance that the truth can be something else entirely (i.e. maybe she fell in love with you, but seeing that it wouldn't work out between the two of you, she makes up a more convenient reason to stop hanging out or whatever. Just one of a million possible reasons.) Us humans are extraordinarily complex. I just really feesl like something is off about this friendship you described, and the truth is something other than that which she deflected on to you. That she rather deflected with a easier/stupider reason than the truth. This is not to say that there isn't a religious factor/reason after all, but there are several versions of those too...
growing up in utah around lots of mormons, i’ve had many “friends” who would stop talking to me when they found out i’m not religious. it’s really painful and traumatic. and mormons are the worst bc like the whole religion is about convincing people to join the church. anyway, i’m just trying to say i get where you’re coming from and it’s just incredibly cruel when people do that
I highly doubt that was the only reason though, mate. I mean if so, she’s an actual, literal psychopath. The friendship had to mean SOMETHING to her to last that long. I’ve seen many times similar situations and religion being a rather heavy driving force to carry the friendship, and when someone doesn’t convert the person decides to distance themselves or end the friendship because the person wouldn’t conform. Either way, whatever it is, remember you gave 8 years of being someone’s best friend. That still means something special. Don’t let her shitty mentality hinder the fact that you treasured and contribute to that (even if one sided) true friendship.
@@BMarie774 me and a former mural friend of ours debate a lot of she is a psychopath a lot actually so it's a bit funny you say that. Her literal words were that she can't be my friend anymore because I'm too selfish to "listen to reason" in regards to her being Baptist. I get why you say what you do, it's jarring to hear someone ended an 8 year friendship because of my unwillingness to convert but that was literally her words
As someone who has taught university level classes and has had office hours I can say, for me at least, I really tried to make it easy for students who went out of their way to ask me. I would do midterm and final reviews where I would give all the info they needed to pass the test and I knew if students were still coming to me to ask questions that they really were trying to make sure they passed or got the highest grade possible. I remember my professors doing the same for me and so I passed it on. It can never hurt to go and ask.
Rhett: "The external stuff is not that important." Also Rhett: Takes an entire podcast to let us know he's growing out his hair... and how important that is.
My mum got sick just after my last exam of my first year, and passed away 10 days before my second year of university. The 8 years that followed were some the hardest years of my life. I wish I had a great time like Rhett, but I still have ptsd from my experience. I was not ready and it took me many years to finish, and having a 3 year break.
So sorry for the loss of your sweet Mum ❤️ University is hard enough and then throw in a major loss I can’t even imagine. I know she can’t be there with you but I know she is cheering you on each step forward you can take. You can do it
*My condolences and all-out prayers and respect to your Mum. It's never easy losing a loved one, but always remember that they're your guardian angels now, always by your side! God bless!*
I lost my dad very suddenly one day in my 4th semester, and the remaining 2 years passed in a bit of a dark cloud of depression and some other issues that stops me from looking back on those years fondly, like my friends do. I'm really sorry you had to go through that ♥️
If you're considering a student exchange or studying internationally, not only is having a roommate a personal growth thing, but an essential part of making friends and getting involved and even getting around. I'm an introvert but didn't have enough money for my own room, and that turned out to be a blessing. I connected with my roommate and she helped me with all sorts of things from basic transport to the trauma of having to leave because of the pandemic. Your roommate will be your fastest friend and your most helpful asset if you're an international student. 100% agree with the boys on this one
@@bridgette7635 oh man if I were in that position it would be ages before I talked to anyone 😂 I had to be introduced by the ol' roommate before I gained the courage. I guess it's a personality thing
Having a roommate, at least for your first few weeks at college is like having a built in friend. If both of you don’t know anyone you will likely end up going to the cafeteria or the store or other places together, and helps get you out and eventually meeting new people there.
Just remember to have this conversation with all your kids. I’m the youngest and by the time I was in college, my parents just forgot to explain how college works.
I wish I could have gotten some of this advice when I went to college, especially in regards to meeting new people and doing new things. My biggest regret was definitely not joining a club, there were so many clubs around things I enjoyed and knew I could have potentially made new friends but focused so much more on things that in the end just didn't matter. I only ended up keeping friends from high school but didn't make any new ones through college, especially not ones where we shared similar interests in things so now as an adult it's so much harder to find places and people to interact and connect with who still share your same interests and lifestyle (like being a single person in your 30's who doesn't have nor want kids trying to find other people in their 30's who also don't have/want kids and want to go and do stuff!)
I love these guys. Been watching them for years. They changed my life and got me through such difficult times. Love rhett and link and the whole mythical team. As a 26 year old I love how they grew as individuals and have never sold out. I especially love this podcast. Just unfiltered. Literally like they say. Two old best friends just talking. Absolutely amazing.
Would you recommend that the extrovert get a room by themselves then to understand that sometimes being alone is good and that sometimes understanding how to be alone is an important part in life
no. honestly college is a super lonely time. even if you have a roommate only you will have your schedule. its up to you to make new friends in the places you will go but until you make friends you will be very alone. as a senior i can say my first year especially was lonely. i had a lot of friends but everyone is always busy and you end up alone a lot.
I'm long out of college but this episode is so wholesome and heart warming. A lot of people are not in a situation where they will be given these advices by their family and Rhett and Link are here like internet dads teaching these tips.
I went to a college less than 20 minutes from home so there were a ton of people there from my HS. I had my own apartment and worked full-time so my time mattered financially. I had several classes where if attendance wasn't mandatory or factored into the grade and there were multiple people I knew in the class we would take turns going and take notes for the others. One professor even called us out on it, but he agreed that what we did made sense and it obviously didn't hurt us because we all did well in the class. As long as you learn the material, does it really matter if you were there or not?
I would say it only matters depending on the type of class, like if it's just a lecture where the professor is merely talking at you with the assistance of visual aides, no it probably doesn't matter if you're actually there (sadly this was a large portion of college classes- college professors simply aren't required to have the same level of training in pedagogy as TK-12 teachers). However, if a professor has taken the time to plan engaging socratic seminars, designed a "flipped classroom", or actively holds discussion segments during class, then yes that is absolutely part of the learning process and should be attended.
90% of ppl do that, it's normal. It's more abnormal to go all the way to a college n you actually go with someone from HS. Plus it's a good experience to have, it's how you meet new ppl n get introduced to new things
Very interesting to hear as I'm on a road trip by myself from North Carolina to Arizona to start my freshman year at college. I'm so stressed about the transition. Thoughts and prayers are very much appreciated!
How’s your first year going? Is it as hard as you thought? Hope you’re having a rich experience, I know you’ll do fine. The scariest part is over - the road trip to get there!
@@boopeep9670 aww thanks for asking. I made it thru, I'm in my last week finishing up the year with all A's, met an amazing guy, have a good group of friends, and have experienced a ton of personal growth.
@@miras.2127 that’s great and inspirational for others. You’re not just doing fine you’re killing it! How many more years till you graduate? I would say keep school your first priority and amazing guys second but with your grades it sounds like you already know what you’re doing. 😄👍🏼
I'm in my final year before going to university (college), and I resonated very much with this conversation. Now I'm strangely both more excited and way more nervous and afraid of starting fresh. Open to advice to make me feel better about college life.
I remember helping a Japanese transfer student in High School in Photography. I helped her through the entire process of developing film, enlarging a print and so forth. She folded me a crane that I still have to this day. I remember her giving me a hug and just so happy with the limited English she spoke. She was gone half way through the semester and no idea what happened. I also remember ceramics class in College. I had two girls flirting pretty hard core with me and I was sorta oblivious to it. I mean, I almost had a Ghost moment....But ya...good times.
When I was in college as a freshman I was in a band and it was “women’s” jeans and summer camp shirts from thrift stores then it shifted to skinny jeans, plain white v-necks from the pack and a rosary by the time I graduated.
I'm the exact same age and my oldest just moved to college. I miss my little kids! It's so quiet, less laughter, and running thru the house. Those little sounds u miss.
I’m still in college and there’s so much I can say in response to this but I resonate so much with the notion of just taking classes in what interests you. Most people go to college so they can learn more complex or advanced skills to get a higher paying job and live a more comfortable life (ideally), so a lot of people suffer through really challenging and uninteresting classes that they power through for the end result or because of obligation. I really have NEVER worked that way and failed out of an embarrassing amount of classes because (on top of mental health issues) I wasn’t interested-even though I’m paying an absurd amount of money and it could get me a comfy job. I ended up taking a religion class for an elective requirement and I fell in love with the department at my university so much I changed it to my major and am pursuing being a professor in religion. I turned my college career from hating college, not putting in any effort, and almost being kicked out of the school to perhaps over-achieving and getting straight As back to back semesters because I made a risky decision to focus on what I enjoy learning about right now, focusing on what I feel passionate about right now, and making the most of my time and money right now, rather than suffering and waiting for rewards that may or may not happen in an imaginary future that isn’t guaranteed.
@@wh0aheavy the skipping on those things were so bad lol. I remember when i finally got a shock proof one and thought it was the most advanced thing in the world.
I could not agree with the advise as it relates to relationships more!! I am commenting about 3/4 of the way through so it may be mentioned at a later point, but one of the reasons I would recommend not having a S.O. (and a cautionary tale for others) is the idea that coming into college a lot of people are afraid, vulnerable, lonely, insecure etc (again at least in my case). My ex was emotionally abusive and very manipulative. He took advantage of my vulnerability and loneliness. He knew I would do anything to have a connection to “normalcy” or “my old life before college”. I allowed him to treat me horribly. Long story (longer), I grew immensely from the experience. I now know my worth. Moral of the story, it is ABSOLUTELY ok to be afraid and alone! More people than you may think are (in college and otherwise). It allows you to be comfortable being by yourself. Anyway if anyone is going through anything that relates to this, just know (as cliche as it sounds) I swear it gets better. It really does!! Try to find something like a hobby or interest (for me it was track and exercise, honestly it saved my mental health!!)
Off the first 10 minutes of this episode I would say that you're child becoming an adult is a transition from just being the person who looks after you and it is their responsibility for that; into being their friend and not necessarily having that responsibility but just looking out for them, giving them advice etc etc.
i'm in my final year of college and i spent only the first 6 months in college before lockdown. it has been extremely hard to keep myself motivated and i was procrastinating studying for an exam i have tomorrow and this has been very helpful. thanks internet dads
I just wanted to say that the advice you both give means a lot to me. I'm 17 years old and I've been watching since you guys started on RUclips. I have a very similar deconstruction story to both of you, but on a smaller scale (because I'm younger). I've grown to trust you both in a way and hearing college advice from you was perfect. Having to deal with this new time of my life is abrupt and difficult, but this conversation really means a lot to me. Thank you guys for always being there. No pressure🤪
Being slightly older than Rhett & Link, and having never gone to college, I can definitively say that a lot of this advice is useful, even if you don't take a path that leads you to a university. Most of it is pretty basic stuff that hopefully some parent or mentor in everyone's life is going to give them, at some point. After high school, I immediately went into the job market and just started living life, and learned a lot of useful things in my 20s. Sometimes this took the form of observational learning, and other times, I had to learn through experience, and even mistakes. So much of what was said here applies, regardless of your educational status...so if that turns out to be your avenue, heed the words of wisdom. Just wanted to throw that out there for those who may need to hear it.
Echoing Rhett and Link's words of diving headfirst into something. I ended up getting super involved in tennis club and then an engineering related academic club. All of my notable experiences came from those clubs and the cool stuff I did with friends. Most of my friends that I keep in touch with post graduation were from tennis club, and most of my professional connections (and many friends) are related to that engineering club. Literally CANNOT imagine my college experience without those outlets.
It was partying for me, boy did I throw myself into that cause lol. But I eventually found a somewhat healthy balance and somehow graduated in 4 years, Good times indeed.
I am an oldest child, and I'll admit I wasn't receptive to any advice like this when I was preparing for college. Emotionally, I was unstable, rationally ill-equipped, and socially angsty. I've now, having flunked out 5 years ago, calmed down, and can hear and follow my own thoughts. My refurbished logos! And I'm looking forward to going back. This has motivated me, so thank you, Rhett and Link!
Link makes an excellent point about office hours, I straight up transferred colleges because the professors didnt offer office hours, you could only get help through the tutoring dept.
*LINK! Make sure if she find herself in a stupid or dangerous situation know that you're there for her! Because yes telling your kid not to do stupid stuff is good, but being there supporting them when they "fail"is more important. Otherwise you could see her internalizing it, blaming herself, and start spiraling. Because we all make mistakes, we don't always react as we were taught to do when we're put into certain situations.*
i was just looking for something to play in the background while i clean my apartment, and this ep was posted this very second! there is no such thing as a coincidence... and if you are reading this it means we are energetically aligned
One of my most favorite episodes.. I live in a very different part of the world but many of the college problems are the same and I wish I could have listened to something like this at start of my college experience. Some very practical advice
Link’s bike story really hit home. I’m about graduate college but relate to that same feeling. Been watching gmm for all four years and never miss an EB!!
My college and university experience was so different as a commuter. I never had roommates because I was still able to live at home (but there's a heck ton of cohabitation skills you learn with siblings) and ultimately my now husband and I lived together while engaged so we adjusted to living with another individual then, so no regrets there especially after hearing some of my friend's experiences with roommates. I also never really dated in college/uni (the one person I "dated" was my now husband, and we broke up after a month due to a miscommunication) and stuck close to the friend group I still have that started back in elementary school; even though I was part of several honors societies and clubs and friendly with peers, those relationships never lasted past the end of that class/graduation. I only made one close friend in college and I think she's still in my life only because I introduced her to the aforementioned friend group and she was a perfect fit. One contributing factor I think is that I was very focused and serious about my education. I knew I wanted to be an elementary school teacher and therefore did everything I could to be prepared to succeed and sought out additional class counseling and conferences. I also did community college first before transferring to a local university renown for its credential program and was part of the honors program at both. I am the first person in my family to graduate with a degree and as the oldest child I certainly felt pressure to succeed academically in this new environment to set up my future to be the best it could be. Overall, I really enjoyed college/uni and have benefited from the dedication I had to my academics. I have no regrets about not going to college parties or dating more, and I still have my friends that I've had throughout the majority of my life and a loving, wonderful husband while working in the profession I worked so hard towards. I realize that my situation and experience is certainly not that of the majority, but it was the right one for me and I can't imagine having spent all that time and money on degrees that I wouldn't even end up using as so many people do.
For me, living with two roommates (who I met in highschool) in 3 bedroom apartment was one of the worst college experiences I had, mostly because of the noise and my level of in door hygiene requirements (I don't even have OCD). I moved to my own single bedroom apartment after two semesters, and that was great. My personal advice when going to college would be to live in your own apartment, if possible, as soon as you can.
Listening a year later but i met my husband at 15 as a freshman in High-school, he was 17 in his junior year and we have been together every since (10 years later) we were very much committed to each other but we never put pressure on us to stay together. We just said if we are ment to be then we are ment to be and if we aren't we won't be together. Im 25 and we have been together for 10 years and we are married and so happy!
I really like the advise of treating the education as a job. It's your job to go to class. You are preparing for a career, so this is like your apprenticeship. Act as though the job is already yours, you're just nailing down the basic training.
I went from a lonely 'D' lister in high school to being extremely popular at university. I went to university from the 11th grade because I couldn't stand another year of high school (this was in Canada). I literally remember thinking I was going to reinvent myself and I did!
Thank you so much for the advice honestly things you said in this has gotten to me! I watch your videos religiously 😂 but never commented or if so rarely anyhow. Your advice in this video will definately stick to me. I started university last year, its a shame with current times here in the UK, as most of what you said is really hard to persue/do but hopefully coming to my second year I can finally start to implement your advice! You guys are such great duo! You are like laurel and hardy or the chucklebrothers and that what makes you great! Thank you so much! ... Oh I might start to comment more on your videos now!...
As a BYU graduate, I can remember thinking I have never been surrounded by so many people that were so good at so many things! University life for me was about finding and appreciating my individual talents!
my biggest flex of my short-lived college career was when day 1 of “intro to logic” my professor said attendance was not mandatory so i did not attend another class, until december the week before our final he emailed me to let me know i was still on his roster & was sporting a big, fat F in the class!! so i came to take the final, got a 100%, and left that class with a solid C. it really is about maturity - I knew i could pass that class without ever going. good luck!!!
School is not about what you learn (as that will certainly change over time). It's all about learning how to learn. Figuring out how to solve problems, math, scheduling or room mate situations, is what it's all about.
I went to a small University a county over from family. 1st year lived at home, 2nd to graduating lived on campus. Best times of my life. I basically knew everyone and loved the small class sizes. I can't imagine having attending a massive university I'd feel so lost.
100% agree with their point about college being the ideal time to fully dive into something with passion/commitment. joined a collegiate dance team my freshman year and met a lot of people from a lot of different backgrounds joined another collegiate team during my junior year based in BU (i went to northeastern) and got to meet even more people/a lot of international students as well senior year i founded my own dance team, members spanning the entire boston community if i hadn't taken that initial step with dance my freshman year, going fully blind into the experience with an open mind, i never would've transformed into the person i am today also would've never met such a diverse, driven range of people college really is what you make of it and there are so many communities (aside from dance) to get involved in as an undergrad
Whatta fitting EB with school starting back up in the fall, plus I’m goin into my third year of university so this’ll be a good listen. Good luck everyone that’s soon to start school or finishing or doin literally anything else in life
My boyfriends dorm freshman year was a lounge turned into a dorm room, so it was just one big square room with twin beds in each corner (4 beds total). It was weird at first but you get used to it lol. It does give off military bunk vibes!
I understand that R&L couldn't speak to this, but I wish there had been some perspective about grad school. I have two M.Sc. degrees, and grad school is an entirely different beast.
Omg, Link in his younger days looks pretty rad and opposite of who is today. Also, i like that i've already gotten into the routine of listening to earbiscuits every Sunday
The advice about choosing classes I could've needed a few years back. I used to choose my classes in order to have a nice compact schedule so I didn't habe to travel as much. But in retrospect I really regret that and feel like I should have expended more ressources towards uni because it also made it so I could rarely meet with class mates and such because I always had to go somewhere/home
Going into my junior year of college..it's been so odd thinking about my college experience so far. A year and a half /fully/ online. I'm so excited to go back to in person classes next week
I think my advice is the other side of the coin from “try to get more comfortable making friends” because I think that if you don’t want or need more friends then it’s perfectly fine to keep your personal life to yourself around your classmates. I like Links idea of having some different types of acquaintances but having friends takes more work than some people need in their life. If I’ve got a relationship, a job, trying to do my best in school, and already have some good friends… I don’t need more. I’m busy 🤷🏻♂️ don’t feel bad for not having energy to spend on new people, prioritize yourself.
Loved this episode! I'm in my first year of University right now, but i have already gone to college for 3 years (1.5 pre pandemic) because I live in Quebec and we have a system here called cegep, where you do the last year of high school and the first year of university in an adult/higher learning environment. I loved it and I totally agree with most of your advice pieces, but now I'm super excited for this next step because there are way more international students and bigger opportunities here. It feels "real" now, like I gotta get my shit together for good and figure out what I want and how to get there. Starting with figuring out a studying system because boy do I struggle with that.
Loved this episode! As someone who just graduated in May, I would love to hear you both talk about your experiences applying to jobs in your fields. As someone who is at that stage in life, I would be interested if you have any advice for new graduates.
I started dating my boyfriend at the end of senior year. Everyone, including strangers, told me to break up with him, since we would be a 6 hour drive away from each other. I'm now in my senior year of college and I'm glad I never listened to anyone. It was hard but he's my person.
I will be 6 hours from my boyfriend too! We've been dating for two yEArs and living together for a year so I'm nervous about so much distance. We are hoping he will be able to move out there in a few months
Covid really ruined my college plans. It was going so great my first year. Establishing myself in class, being active and showing myself to the professors that I'm here and I'm listening. Also, got to be one of the top students but online class ruined all of that. There's just so many things working wrong. The teachers and the students weren't prepared and still aren't. Third year should've started 2 weeks ago yet we're still waiting. Wouldn't have a problem with that except that any plans made are always derailed.
I dont think my college experience could have been more different from these guys. I'm glad they enjoyed it though and have since grown tremendously as humans.
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Someone once spent 8 years as my "best friend" and then I found out it was because she was hoping that whole time to bring me to religion. If you are religious that's fine but don't ever do that to someone, that was one of the hardest losses I have ever endured
@SevenMillionHobbies not a friend anymore, not for a long time, that left me pretty traumatized be because she was suddenly just gone. I was pretty shocked too
Don't take it personally. There is a chance that the truth can be something else entirely (i.e. maybe she fell in love with you, but seeing that it wouldn't work out between the two of you, she makes up a more convenient reason to stop hanging out or whatever. Just one of a million possible reasons.) Us humans are extraordinarily complex. I just really feesl like something is off about this friendship you described, and the truth is something other than that which she deflected on to you. That she rather deflected with a easier/stupider reason than the truth.
This is not to say that there isn't a religious factor/reason after all, but there are several versions of those too...
growing up in utah around lots of mormons, i’ve had many “friends” who would stop talking to me when they found out i’m not religious. it’s really painful and traumatic. and mormons are the worst bc like the whole religion is about convincing people to join the church. anyway, i’m just trying to say i get where you’re coming from and it’s just incredibly cruel when people do that
I highly doubt that was the only reason though, mate. I mean if so, she’s an actual, literal psychopath. The friendship had to mean SOMETHING to her to last that long. I’ve seen many times similar situations and religion being a rather heavy driving force to carry the friendship, and when someone doesn’t convert the person decides to distance themselves or end the friendship because the person wouldn’t conform. Either way, whatever it is, remember you gave 8 years of being someone’s best friend. That still means something special. Don’t let her shitty mentality hinder the fact that you treasured and contribute to that (even if one sided) true friendship.
@@BMarie774 me and a former mural friend of ours debate a lot of she is a psychopath a lot actually so it's a bit funny you say that. Her literal words were that she can't be my friend anymore because I'm too selfish to "listen to reason" in regards to her being Baptist. I get why you say what you do, it's jarring to hear someone ended an 8 year friendship because of my unwillingness to convert but that was literally her words
As someone who has taught university level classes and has had office hours I can say, for me at least, I really tried to make it easy for students who went out of their way to ask me. I would do midterm and final reviews where I would give all the info they needed to pass the test and I knew if students were still coming to me to ask questions that they really were trying to make sure they passed or got the highest grade possible. I remember my professors doing the same for me and so I passed it on. It can never hurt to go and ask.
i dont care if they ever stopped making gmm, more, or any of their other stuff as long as they never stop making ear biscuits
i would care. But also.. NEVER STOP MAKING EAR BISCUITS
This is not where I expected a count your blessings cover, cool
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Agreed!
That’s an interesting take, I actually feel that way about GMM , I would never want them to stop that
Rhett: "The external stuff is not that important."
Also Rhett: Takes an entire podcast to let us know he's growing out his hair... and how important that is.
My mum got sick just after my last exam of my first year, and passed away 10 days before my second year of university. The 8 years that followed were some the hardest years of my life. I wish I had a great time like Rhett, but I still have ptsd from my experience. I was not ready and it took me many years to finish, and having a 3 year break.
So sorry for the loss of your sweet Mum ❤️ University is hard enough and then throw in a major loss I can’t even imagine. I know she can’t be there with you but I know she is cheering you on each step forward you can take. You can do it
*My condolences and all-out prayers and respect to your Mum. It's never easy losing a loved one, but always remember that they're your guardian angels now, always by your side! God bless!*
I lost my dad very suddenly one day in my 4th semester, and the remaining 2 years passed in a bit of a dark cloud of depression and some other issues that stops me from looking back on those years fondly, like my friends do. I'm really sorry you had to go through that ♥️
40:02 I'm so happy they're finally making these jokes
It's like the cutest way guys show affection by joking about how close they are
Second year into college, and most of the advice you're giving is still 100% valid for the following years. Great EB guys!
Very valid, as someone who graduated 2 years ago, I could have used some of that...really should have made more friends.
Same here
If you're considering a student exchange or studying internationally, not only is having a roommate a personal growth thing, but an essential part of making friends and getting involved and even getting around. I'm an introvert but didn't have enough money for my own room, and that turned out to be a blessing. I connected with my roommate and she helped me with all sorts of things from basic transport to the trauma of having to leave because of the pandemic. Your roommate will be your fastest friend and your most helpful asset if you're an international student. 100% agree with the boys on this one
@@bridgette7635 oh man if I were in that position it would be ages before I talked to anyone 😂 I had to be introduced by the ol' roommate before I gained the courage. I guess it's a personality thing
I kind of like how Rhett was like "take this with a grain of salt because we had a lot of privilege"
Having a roommate, at least for your first few weeks at college is like having a built in friend. If both of you don’t know anyone you will likely end up going to the cafeteria or the store or other places together, and helps get you out and eventually meeting new people there.
Just remember to have this conversation with all your kids. I’m the youngest and by the time I was in college, my parents just forgot to explain how college works.
How you gunna blame your parents for a 18 year old not knowing how college works. You have siblings, if you didn’t have the internet already.
@@lumpsoboii4201 That’s true but there’s certain conversations parents should have with their kids to talk about real life and their own experiences.
Hold on, your parents are suppose to explain how college works?
It’s kinda supposed to be something that you struggle through.
@@goreyboyz8564 No????
I wish I could have gotten some of this advice when I went to college, especially in regards to meeting new people and doing new things. My biggest regret was definitely not joining a club, there were so many clubs around things I enjoyed and knew I could have potentially made new friends but focused so much more on things that in the end just didn't matter. I only ended up keeping friends from high school but didn't make any new ones through college, especially not ones where we shared similar interests in things so now as an adult it's so much harder to find places and people to interact and connect with who still share your same interests and lifestyle (like being a single person in your 30's who doesn't have nor want kids trying to find other people in their 30's who also don't have/want kids and want to go and do stuff!)
*I understand. I'm in my 40's with no kids. I can relate to that feeling...*
I love these guys. Been watching them for years. They changed my life and got me through such difficult times. Love rhett and link and the whole mythical team. As a 26 year old I love how they grew as individuals and have never sold out. I especially love this podcast. Just unfiltered. Literally like they say. Two old best friends just talking. Absolutely amazing.
Would you recommend that the extrovert get a room by themselves then to understand that sometimes being alone is good and that sometimes understanding how to be alone is an important part in life
Amen
no. honestly college is a super lonely time. even if you have a roommate only you will have your schedule. its up to you to make new friends in the places you will go but until you make friends you will be very alone. as a senior i can say my first year especially was lonely. i had a lot of friends but everyone is always busy and you end up alone a lot.
I'm long out of college but this episode is so wholesome and heart warming. A lot of people are not in a situation where they will be given these advices by their family and Rhett and Link are here like internet dads teaching these tips.
I went to a college less than 20 minutes from home so there were a ton of people there from my HS. I had my own apartment and worked full-time so my time mattered financially. I had several classes where if attendance wasn't mandatory or factored into the grade and there were multiple people I knew in the class we would take turns going and take notes for the others. One professor even called us out on it, but he agreed that what we did made sense and it obviously didn't hurt us because we all did well in the class. As long as you learn the material, does it really matter if you were there or not?
I’m less than 15 minutes and nobody from my high school is here, I guess college isn’t for everyone
I would say it only matters depending on the type of class, like if it's just a lecture where the professor is merely talking at you with the assistance of visual aides, no it probably doesn't matter if you're actually there (sadly this was a large portion of college classes- college professors simply aren't required to have the same level of training in pedagogy as TK-12 teachers). However, if a professor has taken the time to plan engaging socratic seminars, designed a "flipped classroom", or actively holds discussion segments during class, then yes that is absolutely part of the learning process and should be attended.
I would not recommend having total strangers as roommates in college. People be crazy!
90% of ppl do that, it's normal. It's more abnormal to go all the way to a college n you actually go with someone from HS. Plus it's a good experience to have, it's how you meet new ppl n get introduced to new things
@@timrockwell9731 yeah, I agree bro
What she said also sounds like, "don't make any friends, people are crazy"
Very interesting to hear as I'm on a road trip by myself from North Carolina to Arizona to start my freshman year at college. I'm so stressed about the transition. Thoughts and prayers are very much appreciated!
Hey Mira. You’ve got this. I hope you arrived safely and are finding your place there :)
@@ZorinZato thank you, that means more than you'll ever know
How’s your first year going? Is it as hard as you thought? Hope you’re having a rich experience, I know you’ll do fine.
The scariest part is over - the road trip to get there!
@@boopeep9670 aww thanks for asking. I made it thru, I'm in my last week finishing up the year with all A's, met an amazing guy, have a good group of friends, and have experienced a ton of personal growth.
@@miras.2127 that’s great and inspirational for others. You’re not just doing fine you’re killing it!
How many more years till you graduate? I would say keep school your first priority and amazing guys second but with your grades it sounds like you already know what you’re doing. 😄👍🏼
my senior HS art teacher gave us all the advice “don’t steal your roommates food, people have been killed for less”
I'm just got in collage and this is EXACTLY what I needed. So there's at least one kid listening to your advice
Mrbjt
Bless Link and his sitcom dad advice 😊🥺
I’m single and have moved states and companies a few times. It has 100% been an opportunity to reinvent myself
I'm in my final year before going to university (college), and I resonated very much with this conversation. Now I'm strangely both more excited and way more nervous and afraid of starting fresh. Open to advice to make me feel better about college life.
I remember helping a Japanese transfer student in High School in Photography. I helped her through the entire process of developing film, enlarging a print and so forth. She folded me a crane that I still have to this day. I remember her giving me a hug and just so happy with the limited English she spoke. She was gone half way through the semester and no idea what happened. I also remember ceramics class in College. I had two girls flirting pretty hard core with me and I was sorta oblivious to it. I mean, I almost had a Ghost moment....But ya...good times.
Next one is #300! I'm from Argentina, so the university experience is quite different, still it's great to hear about yours!
Link's advice about meeting people, and a variety of people, is very good advice. Wish I had it when I was in college.
This really puts my parents parenting into perspective
When I was in college as a freshman I was in a band and it was “women’s” jeans and summer camp shirts from thrift stores then it shifted to skinny jeans, plain white v-necks from the pack and a rosary by the time I graduated.
Advice at the one hour mark is of good value!!
To add: Make that first quarter or semester count grade-wise. If you can do that, you will be ok.
I haven't watched gmm in literal years but never miss an ear biscuit!!
what rhett said at 26:45 was kind of eye opening for me, thank you.
NC State University, Fall 1996, which was when I was BORN, only for me to join NC State nearly 18 years later. THE COSMIC TIMING OF IT ALL! 😆
HOW IRONIC :O
I'm the exact same age and my oldest just moved to college. I miss my little kids! It's so quiet, less laughter, and running thru the house. Those little sounds u miss.
I’m still in college and there’s so much I can say in response to this but I resonate so much with the notion of just taking classes in what interests you. Most people go to college so they can learn more complex or advanced skills to get a higher paying job and live a more comfortable life (ideally), so a lot of people suffer through really challenging and uninteresting classes that they power through for the end result or because of obligation. I really have NEVER worked that way and failed out of an embarrassing amount of classes because (on top of mental health issues) I wasn’t interested-even though I’m paying an absurd amount of money and it could get me a comfy job. I ended up taking a religion class for an elective requirement and I fell in love with the department at my university so much I changed it to my major and am pursuing being a professor in religion. I turned my college career from hating college, not putting in any effort, and almost being kicked out of the school to perhaps over-achieving and getting straight As back to back semesters because I made a risky decision to focus on what I enjoy learning about right now, focusing on what I feel passionate about right now, and making the most of my time and money right now, rather than suffering and waiting for rewards that may or may not happen in an imaginary future that isn’t guaranteed.
Everyone talks about them Jyncos but nobody ever mentions the pockets on them bad boys! You could fit a full size dog in one of those back pockets.
I always loved those pockets. You could fit a portable CD player in those bad boys!
@@wh0aheavy the skipping on those things were so bad lol. I remember when i finally got a shock proof one and thought it was the most advanced thing in the world.
@@LuckyLuch1 and the shock proof wasn't even shock proof but I was still so excited about it 😂😭
I could not agree with the advise as it relates to relationships more!! I am commenting about 3/4 of the way through so it may be mentioned at a later point, but one of the reasons I would recommend not having a S.O. (and a cautionary tale for others) is the idea that coming into college a lot of people are afraid, vulnerable, lonely, insecure etc (again at least in my case). My ex was emotionally abusive and very manipulative. He took advantage of my vulnerability and loneliness. He knew I would do anything to have a connection to “normalcy” or “my old life before college”. I allowed him to treat me horribly. Long story (longer), I grew immensely from the experience. I now know my worth.
Moral of the story, it is ABSOLUTELY ok to be afraid and alone! More people than you may think are (in college and otherwise). It allows you to be comfortable being by yourself.
Anyway if anyone is going through anything that relates to this, just know (as cliche as it sounds) I swear it gets better. It really does!! Try to find something like a hobby or interest (for me it was track and exercise, honestly it saved my mental health!!)
Off the first 10 minutes of this episode I would say that you're child becoming an adult is a transition from just being the person who looks after you and it is their responsibility for that; into being their friend and not necessarily having that responsibility but just looking out for them, giving them advice etc etc.
i'm in my final year of college and i spent only the first 6 months in college before lockdown. it has been extremely hard to keep myself motivated and i was procrastinating studying for an exam i have tomorrow and this has been very helpful. thanks internet dads
I love that you pretended to be from Liverpool. Best place in the world!!! Sending love from the "Liverpudlian" side of the river xx
The scouse accent was err something else tho lol
I just wanted to say that the advice you both give means a lot to me. I'm 17 years old and I've been watching since you guys started on RUclips. I have a very similar deconstruction story to both of you, but on a smaller scale (because I'm younger). I've grown to trust you both in a way and hearing college advice from you was perfect. Having to deal with this new time of my life is abrupt and difficult, but this conversation really means a lot to me. Thank you guys for always being there. No pressure🤪
Being slightly older than Rhett & Link, and having never gone to college, I can definitively say that a lot of this advice is useful, even if you don't take a path that leads you to a university.
Most of it is pretty basic stuff that hopefully some parent or mentor in everyone's life is going to give them, at some point.
After high school, I immediately went into the job market and just started living life, and learned a lot of useful things in my 20s.
Sometimes this took the form of observational learning, and other times, I had to learn through experience, and even mistakes.
So much of what was said here applies, regardless of your educational status...so if that turns out to be your avenue, heed the words of wisdom.
Just wanted to throw that out there for those who may need to hear it.
Echoing Rhett and Link's words of diving headfirst into something. I ended up getting super involved in tennis club and then an engineering related academic club. All of my notable experiences came from those clubs and the cool stuff I did with friends. Most of my friends that I keep in touch with post graduation were from tennis club, and most of my professional connections (and many friends) are related to that engineering club. Literally CANNOT imagine my college experience without those outlets.
It was partying for me, boy did I throw myself into that cause lol. But I eventually found a somewhat healthy balance and somehow graduated in 4 years, Good times indeed.
I am an oldest child, and I'll admit I wasn't receptive to any advice like this when I was preparing for college. Emotionally, I was unstable, rationally ill-equipped, and socially angsty. I've now, having flunked out 5 years ago, calmed down, and can hear and follow my own thoughts. My refurbished logos! And I'm looking forward to going back. This has motivated me, so thank you, Rhett and Link!
You guys combined are every part of my personality
being a parent sounds exhausting
Link makes an excellent point about office hours, I straight up transferred colleges because the professors didnt offer office hours, you could only get help through the tutoring dept.
*LINK! Make sure if she find herself in a stupid or dangerous situation know that you're there for her! Because yes telling your kid not to do stupid stuff is good, but being there supporting them when they "fail"is more important. Otherwise you could see her internalizing it, blaming herself, and start spiraling. Because we all make mistakes, we don't always react as we were taught to do when we're put into certain situations.*
i was just looking for something to play in the background while i clean my apartment, and this ep was posted this very second! there is no such thing as a coincidence... and if you are reading this it means we are energetically aligned
Are you a foot soldier too??
What? Lol 😂
*jogs next to you* AHh
🦶🏻🦶🏻🦶🏻
@@anthonyruiz-carvalho31 shout out to your families
I had to rewatch this for the visuals. The first go around I was listening while doing chores. Worth it
One of my most favorite episodes.. I live in a very different part of the world but many of the college problems are the same and I wish I could have listened to something like this at start of my college experience. Some very practical advice
Excited for the upcoming EB #300!
Link’s bike story really hit home. I’m about graduate college but relate to that same feeling. Been watching gmm for all four years and never miss an EB!!
The way Link says Pipettes is something else.
How do YOU say it?
@@WilhelmWilder pip-ets. I suppose pipe-ets is the american way of saying it, judging by your reply. Interesting.
@@WilhelmWilder pip-ets. I suppose pipe-ets is the american way of saying it, judging by your reply. Interesting.
@@danzonthebass yeah I've only ever heard pipe-et. Hm didn't know it differed- I suppose most terms do
My college and university experience was so different as a commuter. I never had roommates because I was still able to live at home (but there's a heck ton of cohabitation skills you learn with siblings) and ultimately my now husband and I lived together while engaged so we adjusted to living with another individual then, so no regrets there especially after hearing some of my friend's experiences with roommates.
I also never really dated in college/uni (the one person I "dated" was my now husband, and we broke up after a month due to a miscommunication) and stuck close to the friend group I still have that started back in elementary school; even though I was part of several honors societies and clubs and friendly with peers, those relationships never lasted past the end of that class/graduation. I only made one close friend in college and I think she's still in my life only because I introduced her to the aforementioned friend group and she was a perfect fit.
One contributing factor I think is that I was very focused and serious about my education. I knew I wanted to be an elementary school teacher and therefore did everything I could to be prepared to succeed and sought out additional class counseling and conferences. I also did community college first before transferring to a local university renown for its credential program and was part of the honors program at both. I am the first person in my family to graduate with a degree and as the oldest child I certainly felt pressure to succeed academically in this new environment to set up my future to be the best it could be.
Overall, I really enjoyed college/uni and have benefited from the dedication I had to my academics. I have no regrets about not going to college parties or dating more, and I still have my friends that I've had throughout the majority of my life and a loving, wonderful husband while working in the profession I worked so hard towards. I realize that my situation and experience is certainly not that of the majority, but it was the right one for me and I can't imagine having spent all that time and money on degrees that I wouldn't even end up using as so many people do.
im starting college tomorrow and i needed to hear all of this
Good luck & have fun! ☺️
feels like you planned this just right! just started my first year of college on campus (was virtual last year) so it's definitely all new to me!
For me, living with two roommates (who I met in highschool) in 3 bedroom apartment was one of the worst college experiences I had, mostly because of the noise and my level of in door hygiene requirements (I don't even have OCD). I moved to my own single bedroom apartment after two semesters, and that was great. My personal advice when going to college would be to live in your own apartment, if possible, as soon as you can.
Listening a year later but i met my husband at 15 as a freshman in High-school, he was 17 in his junior year and we have been together every since (10 years later) we were very much committed to each other but we never put pressure on us to stay together. We just said if we are ment to be then we are ment to be and if we aren't we won't be together. Im 25 and we have been together for 10 years and we are married and so happy!
I really like the advise of treating the education as a job. It's your job to go to class. You are preparing for a career, so this is like your apprenticeship. Act as though the job is already yours, you're just nailing down the basic training.
I went from a lonely 'D' lister in high school to being extremely popular at university. I went to university from the 11th grade because I couldn't stand another year of high school (this was in Canada). I literally remember thinking I was going to reinvent myself and I did!
That’s inspiring, thanks for sharing Jo-Anne!
Thank you so much for the advice honestly things you said in this has gotten to me! I watch your videos religiously 😂 but never commented or if so rarely anyhow. Your advice in this video will definately stick to me. I started university last year, its a shame with current times here in the UK, as most of what you said is really hard to persue/do but hopefully coming to my second year I can finally start to implement your advice! You guys are such great duo! You are like laurel and hardy or the chucklebrothers and that what makes you great! Thank you so much! ...
Oh I might start to comment more on your videos now!...
I had minimal anxiety about college but mine was paid for I can't imagine people paying for it and then have an anxiety
As a BYU graduate, I can remember thinking I have never been surrounded by so many people that were so good at so many things! University life for me was about finding and appreciating my individual talents!
"You get feedback on Twitter? That happens?" I full on snorted
I am 47 and I want to go to college. I want to live on campus and try to restart my life. I missed a few things the first time. I want a redo
Yes not everyone had/has this opportunity.
My uncle was at State with you guys that year! He would've been a junior then!
@17:58 You're telling me that's how Link looked as freshman!?
my biggest flex of my short-lived college career was when day 1 of “intro to logic” my professor said attendance was not mandatory so i did not attend another class, until december the week before our final he emailed me to let me know i was still on his roster & was sporting a big, fat F in the class!! so i came to take the final, got a 100%, and left that class with a solid C. it really is about maturity - I knew i could pass that class without ever going. good luck!!!
Im a first year college student right now, its very confusing ...thanks for the EB I prob need it and you guys are so great to watch!
Love these guys!
Thanks fellas! In my second week of freshman year! I loved to hear your take on college, alot to sleep on :)
School is not about what you learn (as that will certainly change over time). It's all about learning how to learn. Figuring out how to solve problems, math, scheduling or room mate situations, is what it's all about.
I went to a small University a county over from family. 1st year lived at home, 2nd to graduating lived on campus. Best times of my life. I basically knew everyone and loved the small class sizes. I can't imagine having attending a massive university I'd feel so lost.
100% agree with their point about college being the ideal time to fully dive into something with passion/commitment.
joined a collegiate dance team my freshman year and met a lot of people from a lot of different backgrounds
joined another collegiate team during my junior year based in BU (i went to northeastern) and got to meet even more people/a lot of international students as well
senior year i founded my own dance team, members spanning the entire boston community
if i hadn't taken that initial step with dance my freshman year, going fully blind into the experience with an open mind, i never would've transformed into the person i am today
also would've never met such a diverse, driven range of people
college really is what you make of it and there are so many communities (aside from dance) to get involved in as an undergrad
so much advice, so much wisdom
Whatta fitting EB with school starting back up in the fall, plus I’m goin into my third year of university so this’ll be a good listen. Good luck everyone that’s soon to start school or finishing or doin literally anything else in life
huge mood at class choice and at taking classes just for easiness rather than interests
also at college know-hows
Yay 😊 Needed something for a chill Sunday
He-Rhett and Skele-Link somehow makes a lot of sense hahahaha
My boyfriends dorm freshman year was a lounge turned into a dorm room, so it was just one big square room with twin beds in each corner (4 beds total). It was weird at first but you get used to it lol. It does give off military bunk vibes!
College is such a different experience for those who have to work a full time job and take classes as a young adult
I understand that R&L couldn't speak to this, but I wish there had been some perspective about grad school. I have two M.Sc. degrees, and grad school is an entirely different beast.
Omg, Link in his younger days looks pretty rad and opposite of who is today. Also, i like that i've already gotten into the routine of listening to earbiscuits every Sunday
The advice about choosing classes I could've needed a few years back. I used to choose my classes in order to have a nice compact schedule so I didn't habe to travel as much. But in retrospect I really regret that and feel like I should have expended more ressources towards uni because it also made it so I could rarely meet with class mates and such because I always had to go somewhere/home
Going into my junior year of college..it's been so odd thinking about my college experience so far. A year and a half /fully/ online. I'm so excited to go back to in person classes next week
I think my advice is the other side of the coin from “try to get more comfortable making friends” because I think that if you don’t want or need more friends then it’s perfectly fine to keep your personal life to yourself around your classmates. I like Links idea of having some different types of acquaintances but having friends takes more work than some people need in their life. If I’ve got a relationship, a job, trying to do my best in school, and already have some good friends… I don’t need more. I’m busy 🤷🏻♂️ don’t feel bad for not having energy to spend on new people, prioritize yourself.
Awesome comment
Loved this episode! I'm in my first year of University right now, but i have already gone to college for 3 years (1.5 pre pandemic) because I live in Quebec and we have a system here called cegep, where you do the last year of high school and the first year of university in an adult/higher learning environment. I loved it and I totally agree with most of your advice pieces, but now I'm super excited for this next step because there are way more international students and bigger opportunities here. It feels "real" now, like I gotta get my shit together for good and figure out what I want and how to get there. Starting with figuring out a studying system because boy do I struggle with that.
have mercy. those pics are...something LOL love you guys
I am a high school drop out & I did not go to college but I am enjoying this very much so lol thank u for letting me live through u
Loved this episode! As someone who just graduated in May, I would love to hear you both talk about your experiences applying to jobs in your fields. As someone who is at that stage in life, I would be interested if you have any advice for new graduates.
i appreciate this so much . its like two father figures
I started dating my boyfriend at the end of senior year. Everyone, including strangers, told me to break up with him, since we would be a 6 hour drive away from each other. I'm now in my senior year of college and I'm glad I never listened to anyone. It was hard but he's my person.
I will be 6 hours from my boyfriend too! We've been dating for two yEArs and living together for a year so I'm nervous about so much distance. We are hoping he will be able to move out there in a few months
Covid really ruined my college plans. It was going so great my first year. Establishing myself in class, being active and showing myself to the professors that I'm here and I'm listening. Also, got to be one of the top students but online class ruined all of that.
There's just so many things working wrong. The teachers and the students weren't prepared and still aren't. Third year should've started 2 weeks ago yet we're still waiting. Wouldn't have a problem with that except that any plans made are always derailed.
That maze metaphor is incredible, and I will use it with my students!
Timestamp? ☺️
I dont think my college experience could have been more different from these guys. I'm glad they enjoyed it though and have since grown tremendously as humans.
My favorite alternative universe is the one where GMM is a Trio. ❤️
on a quarter system too, it's weird to be leaving home.
I graduated Civil Engineering back in 2006, but still listened to the whole podcast episode.
I love listening to the both of ya'll while coloring my mythical coloring book😁
As an academic advisor, all this advice is *chef’s kiss*