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Hey GS, I'm getting into DCS but I don't want to buy a super extensuve stick, do you have anything you'd recommend for a beginner? I have the F-15C module, and also can I download F-22 mod with the F-15C module?
NEW ENTRY!! NGAD vs F-15 ACTIVE, dogfight, guns or missiles (or both) plzkthx SU-57 vs F-15 ACTIVE, dogfight, guns or missiles (or both) plzkthx SU-47 vs F-15 ACTIVE, dogfight, guns or missiles (or both) plzkthx SU-47 vs SU-57, dogfight, guns or missiles (or both) plzkthx SU-47 vs NGAD, dogfight, guns or missiles (or both) plzkthx OV-10 vs A-10, dogfight, guns or missiles (or both) plzkthx
@GrowlingSidewinder imagine the usaf procures the aim 260, and the peregrine……F15ex… 4 Jatms, and 24 peregrines….. not sure how the su35 ever recommits
Just give me all the AMRAAMs you have. Wait, wait. I'm worried what you just heard was, "Give me a lot of AMRAAMs." What I said was, "Give me all the AMRAAMs you have." Do you understand?
Explains why fighter pilots don't swing their wings when launching anything. in reality, you can also cause jams or misfires. fully stabilize first, fire, then maneuver.
And/or why missiles meant for dogfighting (such as AIM-9) are launched from rails and not ejectors. Hence why F-35 can't carry them internally and why F-22 has special rail launchers for them (among at least one other possible reason in the Raptor's case).
@@productNine True. However, even launching from rails under high enough G forces (positive or negative) can cause problems. So even a rail-launched missile can malfunction if it's being lunched during a hard bank that puts high +/- G forces on it. But I'm not a fighter pilot, just an aerospace engineer, so a pilot or aircraft mechanic might know much more.
Yep. The reason for the EX is like he said as a truck, but with F-35s out front doing the targeting and guidance via data link (apparently DCS doesn't let the AIM-120 use data link). It's going to be even more effective once the EX starts carrying the AIM-260.
I can't remember the channel but I saw a retired F-15 pilot react to a GS video. One thing he pointed out was that GS likes to roll, invert, and manoeuver during launches. He said that's not really how he would do things unless he was really under duress, basically even though missiles are SUPPOSED to work under various flight regimes, the best practice is to launch in the most stable configuration to avoid incidents. In this case the missile came off wonky and GS was rolling into it.
Was really hoping for a Tac view of this encounter, so many missiles ping-ponging back and forth between you two, would have been neat to see how many times you narrowly escaped before making the kill... on yourself 😆
As Perun once put it "The United States absolutely abhors the notion of a fair fight". 16 AMRAAMs or 10 AMRAAMs and 2 AIM-174Bs is how you spell out "What part of 'No Fly Zone' did you not understand" for those who are a bit slow on the uptake.
Man I’ve religiously been watching your channel for the past 2 years and the saddest part about it is that I don’t even play DCS because I don’t have a PC its genuinely just entertaining to watch these simulations and I love seeing how good you’re getting at the game❤ Much love Mr. Sidewinder
I recall seeing an X post by military expert Guy Plopsky where he showed that the Su-35 can be fitted with two-station pylons at least in its ventral bays meaning it can carry more missiles than its standard loadout
Да, если российские разработчики захотят они могут загрузить су35с не 14 ракетами а 18, но как наблюдается в этом нет необходимости, так как на СВО, су30см, су35с не используют полный комплект вооружений, они используют 2 р37, 2 р77, 2р73, этот комплект используются для патрулирования зоны СВО и сопровождения ударных истребителей!
14:50 - I think that was collision mechanics on DCS' part. Missiles do NOT arm unless two things happen: 1) high acceleration is detected (the rocket motor fired) 2) time delay. Has to be collision mechanics.
1:25 well that's a lot of f*cking missiles also you should've played a rematch, you were so close to getting him and the ending was so anticlimactic tbh xd
@@MMuraseofSandvichThe way this relatively small plane can withstand the extra weights on its wings and structure in general is fascinating what an engineering masterpiece
I have a feeling it will not go well for the F16 since it can only carry a measly 6 missiles in comparison to the F-15 EX. The F-16 can't keep the F-15 defensive for long enough and once those missiles run out, the F-15 can just push for the kill without any worry about retaliation until eventually the F-16 gets smacked in the face by an AMRAAM well within the MAR.
F-15: "Just give me all the AMRAAMs you have." Ordnanceman: "You got it." F-15: "Wait, I'm afraid you think I mean 'Give me a lot of AMRAAMs.' I said... give me ALL the AMRAAMS you have. Understand?" *nods*
That RWR glitching around 8:38 reveals an interesting insight into how it's being rendered! The bursts of color are actually motion blur because the "lights" are actually 3D models being shuffled around in-between frames. I assume it's spaghetti code from how physical dials are rendered in DCS and they're usually defined as exempt from motion blur, but somebody forgot lol
@@alphazuluz The ending was him getting hit by one of his own missiles due to a "malfunction". So it was not his mistake. He was doing very well dodging all of those AMRAAMs.
This brings up an interesting question, do air to air missiles have some kind of safety feature to prevent warhead detonations until a certain distance is covered. After standard iron bombs have had safety features that must spin before the fuze is armed.
When you think about how much a single missile costs, we basically just saw a whole upscale neighborhood's worth of houses being flung through the sky.
I was thinking about how chaff can’t produce a doppler shift signal to an incoming Fox-3 because it just floats there in the air and flutters downward. How about a missile defense missile? Something that drags a ribbon or screen of mylar in the general direction of the threat. Cheaper because it doesn’t need a radar or guidance system, doesn’t need a munition head. It just needs to fly level and straight, and avoid terrain. It might be considerably lighter, but it would take up a load point. Maybe I should pitch this to Raytheon, and get a job there.
Is there any way for other aircraft to provide targeting data to missiles you fire? It would be really cool to see a video where you're launching/fighting aim-260s or SM-6s fired by an f-15ex from wayyy out of range while an f35/22 provides guidance
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ME 262 in Korean War fighting everyone.
Hey GS, I'm getting into DCS but I don't want to buy a super extensuve stick, do you have anything you'd recommend for a beginner? I have the F-15C module, and also can I download F-22 mod with the F-15C module?
NEW ENTRY!!
NGAD vs F-15 ACTIVE, dogfight, guns or missiles (or both) plzkthx
SU-57 vs F-15 ACTIVE, dogfight, guns or missiles (or both) plzkthx
SU-47 vs F-15 ACTIVE, dogfight, guns or missiles (or both) plzkthx
SU-47 vs SU-57, dogfight, guns or missiles (or both) plzkthx
SU-47 vs NGAD, dogfight, guns or missiles (or both) plzkthx
OV-10 vs A-10, dogfight, guns or missiles (or both) plzkthx
@GrowlingSidewinder imagine the usaf procures the aim 260, and the peregrine……F15ex… 4 Jatms, and 24 peregrines….. not sure how the su35 ever recommits
bro, go watch the last episode from Combat Approved, in the russian channel. is dedicated to the Su-35S
Ordnance officer: How many AMRAAM's do you want?
F-15: Yes.
Just give me all the AMRAAMs you have. Wait, wait. I'm worried what you just heard was, "Give me a lot of AMRAAMs." What I said was, "Give me all the AMRAAMs you have." Do you understand?
@@Brian-or2jy
Calm down Ron Swanson.
It was like an AMRAAM truck! There would have been some on the top if he could have, I'm sure!
Had to pack extra against this beast.
Casually carrying enough AMRAAMs to defeat an entire small country's air force.
F15EX found a way to take even more missiles to the fight by putting some of them on your plane...
Good one! 😄
Hacking their missiles then?
13:38--"Those R77-1's are also very dangerous missles..."
That is what is called foreshadowing. LOL
Some would say, a little TOO dangerous...
"In the business..."
I want to see that SU-35 kill marker painted on the side of your SU-35 next time you fly it. 😆
😂😂😂
Vayolence 😂😂
The F-15’s 104:0 ratio remains intact (it didn’t go up today)
@@PhantomP63 F22 hold my baloon
I second that 😆
Obi Wan in the F15 telling your missile this wasn't the fighter it was looking for.
Obi Wan Eagle...🤣
😅
Eagle Wan Kenobi
😂
It’s very possible the F-15EX AN APG-82 radar jamming capability is what caused the missile to retarget. The EX has great electronics
GS: I think we're okay...
Me: Uh-oh. He said the thing.
AMRAAM: ??? I'm too far away, bro!
R-77: I got you fam...
LOOOL
Explains why fighter pilots don't swing their wings when launching anything. in reality, you can also cause jams or misfires. fully stabilize first, fire, then maneuver.
And/or why missiles meant for dogfighting (such as AIM-9) are launched from rails and not ejectors. Hence why F-35 can't carry them internally and why F-22 has special rail launchers for them (among at least one other possible reason in the Raptor's case).
@@productNine True. However, even launching from rails under high enough G forces (positive or negative) can cause problems. So even a rail-launched missile can malfunction if it's being lunched during a hard bank that puts high +/- G forces on it. But I'm not a fighter pilot, just an aerospace engineer, so a pilot or aircraft mechanic might know much more.
@@ThePersianKing Thanks for the insight. I’m neither a pilot nor an engineer myself, so any information from people in those fields is valued 👍
When the F-15's radar is SO powerful, it convinces your own missile to kill you
What is that? The power of “electronic suggestion?”
Overhyped radar overhyped plane
That russian missile was made by the company owned by Prygozhin.
@@gerrycrisostomo6571 Priceless!
@@dilldoe1991what’s the W/L of an F-15?
16 missiles.. that lends itself to some straight up japanese anime-style barrages.
"hellzone grenade"!!! 😂😂😂
Not even close to MLRS.
(search for "1/13 Raketinheitinpatteri Rovajärvellä" video)
Yep. The reason for the EX is like he said as a truck, but with F-35s out front doing the targeting and guidance via data link (apparently DCS doesn't let the AIM-120 use data link). It's going to be even more effective once the EX starts carrying the AIM-260.
would be fun if he just launched them all at once to see what happens
The classic "Itano Circus"
That F-15 shot at you the full 2024 DOD budget in missiles.
You mean the full US debt interest payments. You know, cuz those interest payments exceeded the DoD budget this year for the first time in history.
USAF procures about 400 Amraam a year, US Navy about 200. Enough for about 1 day of combat.
So you got killed by your own missile???? That is screaming for a round 2!
I can't remember the channel but I saw a retired F-15 pilot react to a GS video. One thing he pointed out was that GS likes to roll, invert, and manoeuver during launches. He said that's not really how he would do things unless he was really under duress, basically even though missiles are SUPPOSED to work under various flight regimes, the best practice is to launch in the most stable configuration to avoid incidents. In this case the missile came off wonky and GS was rolling into it.
@@thequestline2227 I'm a fan of the channel for sure but other fans have to keep in mind that as cool as this "sim" is it's still really a videogame.
@@thequestline2227 I've been wondering this same thing. Good to hear it from a professional.
@@thequestline2227 Did he also point out that GS flies way too much like a maniac who doesn't fear actual death when close to the ground?
F-15 wins by an unforced error, which is definitely a likely situation eventually in case of a full conflict
A tac view would be useful in those 20+ missile BVR scenarios just to get an Idea where the missiles die, saw one hit the ground not that far away :)
I would love a return of Tac View! Does anyone know why GS stopped doing them?
@@sawspitfire422 probably a loss of viewers afterwards
@@sawspitfire422 If they show you the TAC view you can understand how they manipulate the fight to get the result they wanted by doing subtle errors.
“Gotta love it when problems solve themselves” -Eagle II pilot probably
Never interrupt your enemy while he is making a mistake. Sun Tsu.
Was really hoping for a Tac view of this encounter, so many missiles ping-ponging back and forth between you two, would have been neat to see how many times you narrowly escaped before making the kill... on yourself 😆
14:34 "i rolled into my own missile😢"😂
Who else wants to see that F-15 ripple-fire all its missiles at once? Probably not the most effective tactic but cool as hell.
I think this is a good example of why missiles meant for dogfighting are launched from rails and not ejectors.
16 AMRAAMs is just silly, but I'm here for it.
Makes sense to me.
As Perun once put it "The United States absolutely abhors the notion of a fair fight". 16 AMRAAMs or 10 AMRAAMs and 2 AIM-174Bs is how you spell out "What part of 'No Fly Zone' did you not understand" for those who are a bit slow on the uptake.
All those AMRAAMs may explain why no F15 was ever shot down in combat.
@@GTOGregory or considering the f15 hasn't gone up against anything nearly as capable
Very silly
Man I’ve religiously been watching your channel for the past 2 years and the saddest part about it is that I don’t even play DCS because I don’t have a PC its genuinely just entertaining to watch these simulations and I love seeing how good you’re getting at the game❤ Much love Mr. Sidewinder
Just killed by your own missile. 😅
By the way the Russian style RWR looks very convenient in dogeing missile.❤
I recall seeing an X post by military expert Guy Plopsky where he showed that the Su-35 can be fitted with two-station pylons at least in its ventral bays meaning it can carry more missiles than its standard loadout
Да, если российские разработчики захотят они могут загрузить су35с не 14 ракетами а 18, но как наблюдается в этом нет необходимости, так как на СВО, су30см, су35с не используют полный комплект вооружений, они используют 2 р37, 2 р77, 2р73, этот комплект используются для патрулирования зоны СВО и сопровождения ударных истребителей!
Ghost of Prigozhin got you.
Samael Hyed
Shoigu! Gerasimov! Where's the fkin missles!!!
You were up against a flock of AMRAAMs with an Eagle attached. At least your last missile did score a kill...
You shooting down your own aircraft is the most Russian thing ever!
Savage, LOL.
Russophob
Well, it's true.
And i suppose comrad GS will rather shoot himself down than admitting he was shot down by an F15.😅
In the news I always read about Russian, aircraft, helicopters, and rockets shooting their own positions.
@@Juan_van_Eeden977 Phobia means irrational fear. Nobody is afraid of Russia anymore, and peoples disdain is not irrational.
The conclusion to this video is a nice parallel to the drunken 9x from a few days ago
GS is so deadly, he is even a danger to himself.
14:50 - I think that was collision mechanics on DCS' part. Missiles do NOT arm unless two things happen: 1) high acceleration is detected (the rocket motor fired) 2) time delay. Has to be collision mechanics.
F-15 pilot is like: "I'll Take that Kill!!"
Does it count as a manoeuvre kill if you make your enemy manoeuvre into their own missile?
so... the F-15 actually had 17 missiles! lol
1:25 well that's a lot of f*cking missiles
also you should've played a rematch, you were so close to getting him and the ending was so anticlimactic tbh xd
The EX, if fitted with its weapons racks, can carry up to 22 AMRAAMs, which is flippin' insane.
You say anticlimactic, I say hilarious.
@@benn454yeah it's probably both
@@MMuraseofSandvichThe way this relatively small plane can withstand the extra weights on its wings and structure in general is fascinating
what an engineering masterpiece
@@perfectcell1157 Relatively small plane? Where? Lol, both the Su-35 and F-15 are massive planes.
"If you shoot yourself in a gunfight.... it still counts." -James Yeager
F15ex vs block 70/72 F16? Two re-modernized monsters of the airspace would be pretty awesome!
I have a feeling it will not go well for the F16 since it can only carry a measly 6 missiles in comparison to the F-15 EX. The F-16 can't keep the F-15 defensive for long enough and once those missiles run out, the F-15 can just push for the kill without any worry about retaliation until eventually the F-16 gets smacked in the face by an AMRAAM well within the MAR.
BVR the F-16 has about a 0% chance of winning against the EX
The f16 will get smacked by the current f15 it has no chance against the ex with lowered rcs and a shit load of missiles
The irony of fighting an F-15 with 16 missiles, but the missile to finally shoot you down was your own.
this is taking "Would you intercept me?" to a whole new level.
Hey; GS! You're a huge inspiration for me in my DCS journey and content creation. Thank you for your awesome work!
SU 35 pilot to load crew: " no missile in this specific location"
Load crew; "why? you get extra missile!"
SU pilot ;"trust me, not worth it!"
The fact that an F 15EX can possibly carry up to 22-24 Fox 3 missiles is absolutely scary. Shit can end a whole War Thunder arb match by itself.
F-15: "Just give me all the AMRAAMs you have."
Ordnanceman: "You got it."
F-15: "Wait, I'm afraid you think I mean 'Give me a lot of AMRAAMs.' I said... give me ALL the AMRAAMS you have. Understand?"
*nods*
Peak Eagle and peak Flanker equal peak content :D
That RWR glitching around 8:38 reveals an interesting insight into how it's being rendered! The bursts of color are actually motion blur because the "lights" are actually 3D models being shuffled around in-between frames. I assume it's spaghetti code from how physical dials are rendered in DCS and they're usually defined as exempt from motion blur, but somebody forgot lol
Need a rematch
Those darn NK missiles blowing up on firing...
That SU-35 is so beautiful man, great flying
Great flying? Did you miss the ending?
@@alphazuluz The ending was him getting hit by one of his own missiles due to a "malfunction". So it was not his mistake. He was doing very well dodging all of those AMRAAMs.
Nice to see a plane on par with one that is 20 years newer.
THANK YOU, I was hoping for this match-up.
I was watching today how Su-34 dodged 3-4 patriot missiles, really shows how maneuver these flankers are despite being so heavy
jeez
$4 million taxpayer USD down the drain
This brings up an interesting question, do air to air missiles have some kind of safety feature to prevent warhead detonations until a certain distance is covered. After standard iron bombs have had safety features that must spin before the fuze is armed.
Да, у них даже пишут минимальную дистанцию
Bahahaha that ending was unexpected. 😂 Nice flying all in all, the EX is terrifying carrying that much ordinance.
Dude shoots a plethora of missiles at you and you get taken out by one of your own 😂
Can you do an F15 with the new Navy missile you have been putting on the F18?
Now that would be a scary Eagle.
now it just seems unfair strapping a sm6 to an eagle lol
Just like an own goal in soccer or football... never thought I'd see that in a DCS video! A pretty rare occurrence I imagine!
Awesome! Let's see those two in a close up dogfight!
That was one hell of a way to test the effectiveness of those R77-1s .
When you think about how much a single missile costs, we basically just saw a whole upscale neighborhood's worth of houses being flung through the sky.
I was thinking about how chaff can’t produce a doppler shift signal to an incoming Fox-3 because it just floats there in the air and flutters downward. How about a missile defense missile? Something that drags a ribbon or screen of mylar in the general direction of the threat. Cheaper because it doesn’t need a radar or guidance system, doesn’t need a munition head. It just needs to fly level and straight, and avoid terrain. It might be considerably lighter, but it would take up a load point. Maybe I should pitch this to Raytheon, and get a job there.
F-15 EX Eagle vs F-22 Raptor. Would be cool to see what these two baddies could do!
Your missle wanted to leave the Darkside and go into the light. That missle said "Ivan, I am your father"
Premature explosion is just something that happens as these planes get old. It’s nothing to be ashamed of. …..😂😂
Honestly the only thing the F-15EX needs at this point is a GAU-8 across those under body hard points. I'd call it Pumba.
"Nyet, enemy did not shoot us down, just a fire in the engine bay..."
F/A-18E/F vs F-35C (Fox-2 fight) would be epic to see! Navy vs Navy : Old vs New
Day 89
GS and his rogue missle: I'm kicking my own ass! You mind????"
"Those R77-1s are dangerous too"
"R77-1 does a danger*
I expected to see the E-3 with a few AAMRAMs strapped on for good measure
tacview from these missile trucks battles would be awesome!
This is by far my favourite video or yours. Great tactics and I noticed that you are really fast and high almost all of the time.
Apparently that flanker and/or its missles had a low priority for maintenance.
"Doesn't carry as many missiles as the F15EX"
**Pans to F15EX carrying 16 AMRAAMS**
I damn near spit my coffee out
I just love the paint job on that flanker
I LOVE watching these videos! Fighter pilots need to know SO MUCH stuff...SO MUCH!
The Attitude indicator gets my brain twisting on those planes
Your aircraft and missile hit exactly like a Top Gun movie when hangman hit that last SU57
"at the end of the day it just takes one missile" is one heck of a foreshadow
You're so good you can even beat that Growling Sidewinder guy.
Could we see the F-15EX and the SU-30SM dogfight?
That F-15EX had ALL the ARAAMs.
Very unexpected end 😂 nice Video ❤
Institute for the Study of War: "I'm not quite sure how to score this lost Su-35.... Maneuver kill? Friendly fire? Flying under the influence?!"
F-15 having the thickest plot armor checks out.
To me it seems the missile launched like it should, you just rolled very hard during the launch.
The Su-35 can carry up to 14 missiles
4 ASRAAM
2 Fox 2 MRAAM
2(or 4, idk) ALRAAM
4/6 AMRAAMs
“He got a few lucky punches in there, but I still feel I won the fight.”
After Action Report
Pilot KIA by weapons load crew
I predicted you were going to get hit, but I didn't think that it would be your own missile taking you down 😅😅😅😅 Good show by the way
Bravo for the EX livery accuracy with the ET tail flash.
I know my last comment wasn’t positive about the SU 35M. But I do give props to whoever put the hard work and dedication into this aircraft in DCS.
Is there any way for other aircraft to provide targeting data to missiles you fire? It would be really cool to see a video where you're launching/fighting aim-260s or SM-6s fired by an f-15ex from wayyy out of range while an f35/22 provides guidance
New tactic: Spam missiles till your opponent flies in to their own missile. lol
I thought missiles don't arm immediately, but need some time to do it?
That's kill stealing GS. LOL. Great episode.
Fun fact: Each AMRAAM costs roughly 1.09 million dollars
That EX brought ALL the beers to the party.
Flanker: "I used the stones to destroy the stones."
Well that was unexpected.
But hey, any landing you can walk away from is a good one.
stop hitting yourself. stop hitting yourself lol
may the Goddess of RUclips bless you with the following:
that EVERYTIME a REDSTAR falls from the sky,
- for whatever reason 🤣🤣🤣 -
may you receive one hundred times followers!
all soviet fighters were made to
stay ON THE GROUND - better if bellow it!
KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK, BRO
Well... Shit.
You maneuvered into your own missile. Crappy way to lose a fight.
Looking forward to the next video!
Oh wow, the Su-35 cockpit looks great…😊. Almost feels like the griphen
This is the second time I see a Su-35 die to its own missile on this channel