Starset Rock "Ricochet" Live - 2017 Loudwire Music Awards
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Starset hit the stage at the 2017 Loudwire Music Awards to perform their moody 'Vessels' track "Ricochet" at the 2017 Loudwire Music Awards in Los Angeles.
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I don't know what about this performance is disappointing you all... He came out here and still slayed it even while being exhausted AND having a LUNG INFECTION. All he had to do was take it easier on the soft parts and bring some of the extended highs down an octave?? Amazing.
I wouldn't have even been there. He's got balls for showing up.
All things considered, it was still a spectacular performance.
Not to mention, the crowd sucked. If any of you have performed lived, you know that a dead crowd will suck the energy out of you so fast. You have to feed off the energy from the crowd and that crowd was not doing it.
Amazing song..
I wish this band reaches great heights
but they should be afraid of heights
theILLICET 1 i dont think they would be afraid they seem rusted from The Rain
+theILLICET1 But they had a hold of the lightning strikes.
Saw them live recently and I agree....I was impressed!
But then fate knocks me to my knees
And sets new HEIGHTS beyond my reach
Everyone needs to chill. He was tired and exhausted. I saw him live Thursday and he was AMAZING 😍😍 truly beautiful voice! Singers can't be perfect every time they perform
You can really see the strain and stress he's feeling based on how sweaty he is. Such a great band with an amazing and dedicated lead vocal!
They are amazing, and the fact that he is tired, But still does the thing. Makes them more amazing. I play on the street busking. When I'm tired i make like 10 euro in 3h. Im my own boss so I do day offs when ever i want. But the labels and shit make you go over your possibilities. And that's the result. Apart of that those vocal lines are so difficult. All love to starset. Not long ago found this band, but i enjoy every song. Btw got recommended starset while listening to Alter bridge. Since I listen to Alter bridge i get a lot of amazing recommendations from you tube.
I was gonna say he seems done for the day
Too be honest, I like the imperfection of this version
Harbinger same
Wow! That crowd is going nuts
Isaiah's Reviews this is always the case with award shows
2:45 No they were not sir. I sense some sarcasm. :)
Straxzion what???? No one is sarcastic on th Internet
haha
Well, I don't see a crowd anywhere for you to perform to.... perhaps cuz you don't have one...
Starset IS an amazing live band, and Dustin has a supremely beautiful voice, but this was like their fourth? live show in a row, and if any of you think your voice wouldn't be a little the worse for wear after all that screaming night after night not to mention endless gabbing during press well, I guess you're not human...which would also explain why you don't like Starset.
Agree 100%
HE CANT SING LIVE THATS A FACT DO NOT DENY IT YOU CAN SEE ITS SUCKS HERE
Lyudmila Graph have you seen them live?
michael gutierrez yeah, no difference than most indie bands out there, always sux
@@tianzhao_taipei i think at this time he simply had not had his vocal chords trained to sing multiple days in a row. Look at him now and he hits it perfect.
You tell he is physically tired and I’ve seen these guys live at the beginning of their tour, they’re so much better than this, believe me.
PCON36 yeah here it is live and much better. ruclips.net/video/fO6aizorBJI/видео.html
I was getting really worried.
@@austincraft5732 amusing... both lives are terrible xD
Well i don't have footage but i saw them a few days ago and i can tell they were very full of energy, not tired at all. Yeah you can tell here he's pretty tired, or he appears to be.
I saw them 2019. I can assure you are correct MUCH MUCH better than that.
Thats maybe the last song and his voice is done. I guess he had a lot of training to keep the voice for longer.
One of my favorite songs of the past year
Let's be real. Starset is kind of in their own genre and they have ALWAYS got hate from the metal and rock community because of their use of electronics, Dustin's alleged inability to sing live (he is actually great live), and then just being different.
This band is one of my favorites though. They have true meaning behind their music and combine so many great musical elements. Their live performances are very cinematic,.and videos don't do it justice. Along with being able to come up with stories and back stories for the band itself.
Not many bands can do all of that. And even if they do sound shitty live, most bands do.
Yeah, he has gotten so so much better since this. Plus he looks really really tired and his voice gave out. But his recent live performances are great.
But yes this band is included in my holy trinity of hard rock:
Starset
Red
Breaking Benjamin
"inability" yes
@@Stigma-ba115 I'm 2 years late, but i wouldn't personally include breaking benjamin in that list, and it isn't necessarily hard rock either. More of a metalcore/post hardcore fusion. but yeah starset and red are leagues better than BB in my opinion
I saw these guys on the 13th of last month in Ohio and they sounded great, you can obviously tell he is tired right here. When I seen them he nailed every note in the song. Songs not easy to sing man. Keep up the great works guys
The Buzz Lightyear guitarist was rocking the heck out but was so quiet in the mix.
Interesting song though so will def check out more of them!
I literally saw these guys on Sunday and they fucking killed it! They performed APMAs this year and literally had the same misfortune of god awful mixing. Everyone mentioning their other performances are 100% correct. They sound absolutely FANTASTIC when they aren't dealing with the shit sound systems that award shows provide.
I can attest that they sound phenomenal after truly hearing them live for the first time. That was probably the best day of my life.
Even A7X set up was not good.. so that says a lot.. I actually just heard them the first time at Loudwire and i am enjoying their music quite a bit,, will keep listening forsure
Britt L amen! Saw them in dallas in march and man what an amazing show. They blew the roof off! One of the best concerts ive been to. They sounded amazing. Can't wait to see them again.
Response to comments regarding criticism:
1) Have you ever tried to sing for even 2 minutes, in a shirt, with the top button done up, and a bow-tie? The top button alone, places a not insignificant amount of pressure on the throat, even if the shirt is tailor-made.
2) Dustin had a chest infection at the time of this concert, so his lung capacity was substantially diminished, thereby severely affecting his performance, but he went out and performed nonetheless...You HAVE TO give him some respect for that.
3) The song itself, is incredibly difficult to sing, at the best of times - Can anyone of you hit those high notes, after having sung for a minimum of fifteen minutes, some songs of which would have required you to growl? The answer is a flat, unequivocal no.
The mixing was not the best, admittedly, but this was a poor performance by their standards FOR GOOD REASONS, so they have to be forgiven, as they didn't cancel their performance like so many other artists would!
Stop making excuses. I like Starset. I'm from Cbus. This was pretty hard to watch/listen to. 1. Don't wear a shirt like that if it's a problem. Nobody forced it. It's also a laughable excuse. Singers have been wearing all kinds of attire when they perform forever. 2. Idk anything about that. 3. If it's hard live, don't sing it. You sound like a fanboy. They don't sound good at all here.
@@buckeye25osuIn this case I notice a mixing problem. No multitracks overdubs vocals in the background (only live backing vocals of the band) and NO samples on drums. This isn't a classic rock song so you need a lot of multitracks and a lot of samples for recreate the same sound of CD. Basically in this video you listen ONLY the live RAW mics which doesn't capture the totality of the sound. Perhaps there was some problem because in many other videos this band sound pretty decent...
1) why would you then
2) nah. you're sick, you don't go to work. especially if you're sick in the body part that earns your paycheck
3) oh my fucking god this raw example of a 'first achieve then criticize' attitude is so pristine it belongs in an archive or something. lack of proficiency in music doesn't make a shit performance less shit
@@vsevolodzhurukov3547 sometimes you need to do your job if you're sick.
I do covers every now and then and struggled to even try to hit those notes. You can tell he's not feeling well. I go see them in May and I garrentee it'll be nicer. They are a good band
It doesn't look like the recorded music... BUT THATS NORMAL SO STOP HATING... The performance wasn't bad, most of you enjoy singers who are way worse and you say its good.. They're amazing, so stop the hate.
1:21 Dustin 😭
I cry with this song :'3
it was sweat. poor dude was extremely sick and he always gets super into his performances. i'm sure by now you know that tho 😅🤣
Great performance!..
THEY DON'T KNOW MY HEARRRRT!!!! THEY DON'T KNOW MY...heart
Lmao that part was so funny
I hope living a Starset performance someday, specially Ricochet/Starlight, two of my favorite songs ever.
You can tell he's tired but he's pushing through 💯🔥🔥🔥
These guys have such a unique concept, i love it. Most bands aren’t great live at 1st. I saw Bullet for my valentine back in 2007 they were horrible. Saw them again in 2016 and they were phenomenal
I know this video is old, but I just saw them in Dallas on November 8th 2021 and they played Ricochet. And it was literally amazing. They've improved so much since this was taken and it's honestly not even comparable. I think people also forget it's hard to gauge live performance on recordings. If you have doubts about seeing them live, I can't recommend them more after seeing them.
Wth happened to the sound check?? Its obvious the sound kept fluctuating. Dustin doesn't sound like this in most shows. Have better sound systems at award shows 😑also they've been touring most of 2017, he might have been exhausted here. Give him a break at least he went up to perform.
Amy Casillas These shows usually require a lot of tech, but when they get it right it's amazing. Would explain why the soundcheck took like 15 minutes at the concert I was it, but it was totally worth it.
the fact these guys have blown up in only a few years is amazing. Hope to see them go big places, hoping for them at download festival so I can see them there
Poor dudes, wrong venue, wrong event, wrong crowd.
Great performance. One of my favourite songs. Looks a really hard one to sing live too. To hit those high notes. He did well. Lot of energy. Such a great band.
I saw starset in dallas and they KILLED IT! Blew the roof off the place. Not sure what happened with this, maybe he was tired? He sounds worn out. I dunno but i can attest to their ability to play live. Hands down one of the best concerts ive been to.
Amaizing performance!!!
I want to hear this song live so baaaaaaaaaad!!!😭😭😭😭❤❤
Awesome performance, I love Starset
the host"wow that was amazing "
that one bum "no it wasn't"
I thought I had heard it wrong ;-;
He was definitely exhausted during this song and I respect him for still doing a good job. This song is my mf shit.
this was amazing
One day this band will be the Greatest Band in the world
Mozokiro Roshonlaya And pigs will take flight
Lol Dustin. That was amazing. He was really tired. And ricochet is the one of the most difficult to sing in the album. Because is a heavy song at moments.
I love Starset. I really do. All their song were great. But I dreaded a bit everytime I watch their live performance...Its just bad. Keep practicing guys. I know you can do better. Love you guys to the moon and back.
Anbuhiro They do better in large venues. Saw them last night and they were excellent. They seem to lack the nerve to go all out in smaller venues.
Because crowds like this suck and they know this. Also look at him he is sweating
All of these pathetic metal fans are upset because Starset is able to play at this show. LMAO
TommyGun3131 were we're not upset we love them
The metal elitists
Lol starset can be any genre they want they'll always be the best
I'm a metal fan and I think they're incredible
Starset's still very heavy, they've got a lot of metalcore and nu metal influence
A lot of you guys clearly have never seen much live music... this isn't that bad, apart from the trash mix but that isn't on them. Clearly it was better in person by the crowd reactions
Starset was awesome at the Masqurade in Atlanta. Bates can improve but they have the best live rock show in my opinion.
wonder if they weren't having tech issues there
These award shows seem to get the worst sound guys out there for some reason.
Star set is awesome
Guys-hes obviously feeling under the weather. The fact that the band put on this level of a show even with him being sick is impressive.
This is so good.
The hate this is getting is honestly pathetic, I will admit they need a lot of practice on getting better at performing live, but still there are WAY worse live performances than this, the song is still amazing and I think they did a great job, props to you if you agree as well.
I like the band, and the vocals were pretty bad... But I've seen them live before and it wasn't like this, I don't know what was going on, unfortunate.
They fucking suck; you have shit taste.
How do they suck? Watch any other live performance by them and it sounds better than Loudwire's shitty production.
Vey If you accept a shitty performance then they will continue to perform shitty.
This is probably the one and only performance by them that hasn't met most people's expectations, not to mention whoever was supposed to be mixing the audio at Loudwire did an awful job at doing so while they performed Ricochet, look up any other demonstration from them and it'll sound perfectly fine.
This band has come SO FAR. I saw them when they were at the Sylvee in Madison, Wisconsin. This performance looks like CHILD'S PLAY compared to what they can do now! Bravo, Starset! Bravo!
Amazing song
5:41 SOMEONE SAID THIS WAS NOT GOOD THIS song has more soul and heart and sounds better than 70% of rock today btw I am 80s rock man there very cruel and they probably never wrote song in there life lead alone got up on a stage
Love em, although they were tired, they still played their heart out.
I like a lot!
Yes I saw them in OKC they are beautiful
this guy is awesome at his sing and he got so much enrgey when he sings did he eat some sushi his the best too hes my number one singer
I fucking love this voice!! Is amaizing
Amazing
holy shit, this is awesome!
To all the people who are hating: he may not be as good as someone like Chester or Corey but at least he doesn't use auto-tune.
One of my favorite bands when it comes to studio recorded music. Not the best live though..
Dustin usually doesn't sound like this, not sure what was going on.
I Saw Them At Rocklahoma And They Sounded Great....This Surprises Me....
Every live performance I've heard from Dustin has sounded like this.
Troy Taylor they're getting better. The sound tech screwed up this performance tho
reepaz The sound in tv is patetic. But the sound in the concert is amaizing
They need to hire a Online music mixer. Alot of A list bands have someone that makes sure the online market hears exactly the vision of what the band is echoing. Let me know guys. Im here for you!
They are not that great live but, we all start one place with more training and more concerts they will become great live! i love starset
I've seen them live before and Dustin usually sounds pretty good so I have no idea.
Well mabye he is having a bad show or is sick i dnno, but this was not that good of a performance and i love the band
I don't know, I saw them just earlier this year and Dustin has been singing this high professionally for over ten years so I feel like the wear would've set in before now.
They just finished a huge tour. They need a break
Syoatic They're a new band but this isn't the singers first band so I'm not sure that's the reason.
You can see he is tired, guys
Look at their other live performance
I absolutly love Starset , all of their songs which is rare.
Btw i am not a fan of metal song etc , but since their first album i know them and i love them soooo much
Why didn't they just perform a more rock-like song like Bringing it down or Frequency? Or Rise and Fall? Or Gravity of you?
Man, they nailed it!
Pyroplayergerman cause this is the best song on the album
ESSA MUSICA É MUITO BOA CARAAAAAAAA
Best fucking band ever
I've seen Starset live in person twice and they're definitely a band in which seeing live performances on RUclips doesn't quite do them justice. My only problem seeing them live was that it was at an outdoor festival, so I wasn't able to get the full experience that I'm sure most of their concerts have.
Yeah i went when they were in melbourne in august and i think its really just hit or miss when you go to see them.
If u watched the whole thing at the end chris jericho states that was amazing. Gives a 2 second pause and one of the crowd members says no it wasn't!! That had me in circles!
So pretty song
You guys need to watch more live bands lol compared to the majority this isn't that bad lol. The mix was trash tho lol couldn't hear everything
i am sorry but thats far from truth imo this was bad ofc it could been worse but IMO i think this could have been better seen other live performances being way better. might just have been the audio technitians that fucked up i dnno
L3AF lol I've soo many bad performances this seems mediocre to me.
okay fair enough you should check sleeping with sirens live that is meh xD
wow Dustin really did change for the best. look at him now he's like another person
WATCH.YOUR.TONE.BOI. all jokes aside, he is definitely more confident in stage. :D
5:42 "No it wasn't!" XD wtf come on
It takes a lot to scream people and that tears ur voice
3:27 woah
People need to give Dustin a break this was probably the last song of the set so it’s not wonder he’s tired
Starset's album Vessels is the best album i've bought of 2017. Murdered my Cd player in the car, hasn't left since.
The Astronaut They still sell CD's?
what do u mean this is awesome :)
• As hard as it is to replicate this sound live, you can’t knock the band for trying...
Caralho como que eu não vi esse vídeo antes véi PERFEITO 😍🖤
Yeah DB hit them high notes
Why are people complaining about this ? I'll admit during the transmissions and vessels tours some of their performances were, let's say, not at all good. (Although now, after divisions, they are fucking amazing live), this performance right here, is NOT AT ALL BAD. They all sound very close to the album version here.
I hope the singer will take lessons to improve his singing technique, I'm afraid he will damage his vocal chords like this
BlueGlass It's not his singing technique. It's vocal stamina.
Yup, the band has only been around since 2013. And the fact they're THIS famous already says something. The singer just needs to practice his stamina. He's young, wild and has a lot of potential. Just needs practice.
At this time he was really tired and sick, but yeah I agree (:
Dustin why are your notes so flat 😭
amo esta banda lastima que nunca van a venir a Argentina
sound engineer did them dirty on this
I'm getting some serious Chester B. vibes from watching this.
The vocal improvement by Dustin is phenomenal now in comparison
Those screams sound pretty authentic. Most bands use the sound system to aid their screams....
I saw these guys live for the first time last year supporting shinedown and they blew me away and Ricochet was amazing.
This was a very below par performance from when I saw them and it just doesn’t do them justice. Can’t wait to see them again!
The strangest part of this was the Nike shoes...
It’s a shame this performance wasn’t great. I’ve seen them live and he was much more in tune. It must have been just a bad day. I hope no one really judges them off this
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He did so good considering he was visibly tired
When they came to Baton Rouge in April 2018 the woman with the violin and the guy with the cello had helmets
Saw them at a demonstration last week and they were amazing live. This was just a bad day for Dustin. Don't let this one not so good performance be a definitive representation of the band.
Chris is lead singer of Fozzy. He did both wrestling and music, and once in a while, acting.
Me hubiese gustado que tocarán otra canción como "Monster" x ejemplo que se le da mejor cantarla en vivo pero dudo que la allá podido tocar xq es la canción nominada a canción rock del año.
I saw them for the first time on the loud wire awards, had never heard of them and I actually like them. Not my usual genre, but it's good to open your horizons. They remind me of a heavier Linkin Park. The singers got pipes. Just needs to work on breath control.
I've seen Starset live twice, and they are waaaay better than this. Which granted, both the shows I caught them at was early during the tour. But, I'll admit, their shows are SOMEWHAT dull. Idk why, but they're a good band. But, the crowd just generally stands there and watches them and no go nuts or anything, which is eh. This really ain't the type of music you'd bounce around too really.
I love this band, they kinda remind me of a modern day linkin park
All Starset live songs seems to be so hard to sing, I take my hats off to Dustin.
I'd be punching everyone in that crowd if I was there
Great band, horrific mix.
The guy at the end " that was amazing " "no it wasn't" xD lmao
I hope he finds Melissa Cross to help him avoid losing his voice and maintain consistency. I like Starset but the end ( 5:39 ) of that was fucking hilarious, "WOW!! That was amazing!!! - No it wasn't!!"
I love how metal elitists shit on starset even though Dustin has a better voice and better lyrics then most people they worship
I saw these guys last year with Breaking Benjamin and Seether and they were awesome. His voice sounds very strained here, usually he sounds alot better.