To think of Europeans as some sort of a unified "tribe of whites" is so cute. I don't think these people understand the depth of hatred an European has for another European while both of them live closer to each other than a single of your state goes. EDIT: Given how this frivolous post of mine somehow blew up, let me explain that was supposed to be a joke.
Europeans have waged war upon each other for centuries. As an aside, in that regard the EU has had the unintentional side-effect of creating peace internally in Europe. Our economies are now so intertwined, that we cannot afford to wage war upon each other anymore. :)
There are millions upon millions of white people who look exactly the same, and yet carry a racialized hatred for random pockets of each other that would make klansmen blush
Why is the idea of Jordan’s license being revoked so scary for the Peterson family? He isn’t a psychologist anymore. He isn’t a professor anymore. He was basically kicked out of that profession. His job is a right wing commentator. He’s the red skull. He literally makes more money in a month than he made as a professor combined. He’s a multimillionaire author and right wing commentator. This is like Donald trump and his family being afraid of the government taking away the presidency from him. Lol you didn’t have it anymore to begin with.
The license is useful for the grift. Its handy for bringing over moderates because it gives him the air of an expert, and therefore makes his conclusions (no matter how wild) seem more legitimate then they are. If he loses that then it might make moderates scrutinize him a bit more, as an unlicensed psychologist is less trustworthy then a licensed one. And for good reason, its why we have the licensing boards to begin with. This will change nothing with his fanboys, of course, as they will make the assumption that its just another way he is being oppressed by the government/big pharm/new world order/cultural marxists/jews (yes, I know many of those are synonyms in these people's eyes)
I mean for both examples the official title is the foundation for their entire grift, so if they lose the ability to refer back to it the whole tower could start crumbling beneath them.
Well... yeah... "Hospitals do more harm than good. If someone runs the numbers they will see that it is true. But I could be wrong. But I may not be wrong!" - Peterson in an interview P.s. A simple google search shows him wrong... and his tweet which he mentioned this was also commented on about how he's so wrong, he's talking out of his ass... but that doesn't phase him.
@@aralornwolf3140 If you think that makes a person unworthy to practice their profession that they have practiced with exactly zero issues for decades then you are a manic.
@@Rallylabs Well not exactly decades - 15 years - and not exactly 'zero' issues: *"Y'know, I've also been accused three times in my career of s-x-l impropriety. Baseless accusations. And the last one really tangled me up for a whole year. It's not entertaining."* -- Jordan Peterson, UofBC, February 2018. The video of him saying this was taken down at the end of last year (surprise, surprise). Search 'Jordan Peterson 13 year old Rabid Harpies' or 'Jordan Peterson admits having 3 cases' - to see a full transcript in the comments, of what he said. For the record, the last one, the one that really 'tangled him up' was actually a complaint of Professional Misconduct. His appearance at UofBC came just 8 days after the outcome of that complaint was published. This showed that Peterson was obliged to give a written promise to respect his patients’ boundaries and to address how he communicates with them. He also had to commit to a program of self-reporting his activities to the CPO. This agreement avoided a disciplinary hearing. (See: 'after-misconduct-complaint-jordan-peterson-agrees-to-plan-for-clinical-improvement') . However, he had closed his practice a year earlier and was about to embark on his world tour promoting '12 Rules'. So he never made good on this agreement. He hasn't practised for six years. AND, when the video of Petersons 'rabid harpies' comments went viral, the young lady who made that last complaint was concerned she might be identified and she and her complaint were being misrepresented. She said: “That is not what this is. This is not that,” *“This is about a bad doctor who didn’t do his job, and I got hurt.”* (See Canadaland). So, he has been here before... . and as a clinician, too.
taking part in democratic debate/conversation should not lead to revoking his license.. Im not a fan of JP and not right wing but this is insane woke mind rot...
When... when did he do that? I've seen some of his debates and haven't seen much other than a recognition that the general narcissistic tendencies in basically every person can push someone towards a "moral high ground" type of political stance. What talk or debate or function did he do this at because that would be atrocious?
@@vyrv6719 Treating these groups as "needing to be fixed" or "out of their mind" etc. Idk about you but this mindset as a Doctor of Psychologie, as far as reasons for getting a License revoked go, is pretty damn reasonable.
For me it was publicly fat shaming a woman online. As a psychologist why did he think that was okay? He obviously didn’t* care about her or anyone else’s mental health yet we supposed to have sympathy* for him during his struggles with mental health. Illogical.
He has done way worse than that. Using his patients medical conditions in his self help book. Without permission and he went into enough details that you can recognize the individual from it if you know them some what enough. He has straight up violated HIPAA.
@@maxgrozema1093 Point is it makes other overweight or obese peoples suffering from mental health who may have sought psychological help less inclined to seek this service, especially after seeing a licensed Ontario doctor publically degrade their nature. It's like if you were struggling to get off drugs, needed professional help, but then you see the doctors from where you're asking from help saying shit like "dumbass druggies should go to hell", wouldn't exactly make your potential patients feel very safe in an environment where they want to improve.
@@Killerbee4712 Not sure Peterson said fat people should go to hell. I do, however, have heard him denounce the fat people's attitude that it's absolutely amazing to be fat, so much so that they make up words like "fat acceptance" and "fat pride" on Twitter. I'm on the curvy side myself but I don't make it my whole personality as if it was some kind of award to be fat.
@@bendover9620 I am aware, and in agreement with you, but his attitude should not be of condemnation, but of understanding and help, or else he's not doing his job.
Jordo abandoned his patients and leaked their personal information to each other the moment he noticed people started paying attention to him and smelled the possibility of fame. He's absolutely despicable and a net loss for society as a whole. It would be better if he stayed an obscure academic, at least he would have helped someone (maybe).
@@josh-oo As much as I despise the guy that's a really weak point, if they're anonymized that's not leaking people's information. Medical providers need to be able to talk about cases as long as their patients remain unidentifiable.
@@stefvanroey8191 can't link here, generally, but there's a news article out there in the town the clinic he used to work in was. He started distancing himself pretty early on. I really hope he wasn't seeing anyone for serious reasons, because having a counselor ditch you tends to rock the patients pretty hard
“They’re threatening to take his psychology license” = “they’re asking him to take a continuing education course on social media professionalism, after which he’d keep his license, but he’s such a toddler that he’s refusing to do it so he might lose his license on that basis”. Just so we’re all clear.
While true, the question is why do they get the right to restrict his political opinions online? I don’t agree with his opinions, but I imagine this wouldn’t fly in the US.
@@eddieisfiction442 Apparently he has been sharing personal info of patients with other ones. However its wierd as a leftist the assumption you are making for this guy to justify y he shouldn't lose his license while admitting you don't actually know y he is losing it.
@Eddieisfiction It's not that hes posting his political opinions. He's been doing that for years with no consequences. Its that hes been posting like a madman and has been mentally unraveling publicly online in a way that goes against the guidelines of the College.
@@eddieisfiction442 Of course they can, if it pertains to him using his license/degree as an appeal to authority where it pertains to the subject field. Any license has to be _maintained,_ you know?
Colleges, when it comes to medical licenses, are regulatory bodies. They don’t just give you a license and look away if you act insane. Although, Mikhaila Peterson literally only has a public platform due to nepotism, so I don’t expect her to know anything about anything except for “my dad says...”.
It's a nice feedback loop too, since Jordo himself has made many of his personal health decisions based on whatever insanity his "health influencer" daughter suggested. All meat diet? Did it on her advice. Getting off benzos with a dangerous chemically induced coma in Russia? Her idea. Her qualifications on health or dietary advice?? None.
@@thunderpooch just because you can survive on a certain diet, i.e, a strictly conivorous diet, doesn’t mean it’s healthy. You can survive on butter and potatoes, still wouldn’t be that healthy. I don’t understand people who act like just because it works for one person that it’s universally good 😂
JBP writes about the private life of his patients in his Rules for Life books. He describes them with enough details to be recognized, without permission. This is enough to revoke a psych license.
To add to the European Nationalism bit - I'm Polish. And a lot of the nationalist rhetoric (except for the Anti-Semitism) is centered around hating Germans and Russians. Like Europeans have literally 2000 years of grudges to draw upon. We're not one people xD
I was shocked that he even still had his license after his rhetoric around transgender individuals and his penchant for conversion therapy (torture). It is similar to a psychiatrist praising the effectiveness of lobotomy in the 1970s....a few decades after the practice was widely denounced and stopped.
He also has historically shown serious conflicts of interest that he's failed/refused to acknowledge and account for, peddles risky fads with no empirical basis like the all-meat-diet, and talks about his previous clients in a really creepy, callous, and unprofessional manner, IMHO, on top of talking about vulnerable populations (e.g., trans people) in a cavalier, insensitive, and counterfactual manner. It's always bothered me that lots of psychologists will rant and rave about Dr. Phil until the cows come home, but psychs who are willing to criticize or condemn Peterson have been way too few and far between, IMHO.
Lobotomies are still practiced today. They weren't banned. There are still issues that this is the only way to stop them from hurting themselves or others. If ypu don't know you shouldn't speak.
@@gregschnidt679 You should probably take your own advice because you're just wrong. While it's true the procedure hasn't been banned, it also hasn't been performed since 1967. There is a still practiced psychosurgery preformed deep within the frontal lobe called a bilateral cingulotomy. Its done as a last resort for extreme cases of OCD and depression. However this procedure is pretty far removed from the ol' ice pick brain scramble. it's highly targeted surgery that requires the informed consent of the patient. It's more effective with significantly less negative side effects and undesirable personality changes. It's not "the amputation of the soul" like lobotomies were. Furthermore it's also not used as a simple way to pacify patients that pose a great risk to themselves or others. Patients like that are sedated with drugs, not subjected to non consensual brain surgery.
The reason Americans think of Europe as a single thing is because that's what the US is, a bunch of small states under one government, they think because the countries in Europe are the same size as some of the larger states that's how they work
No it’s because Americans have poor world history knowledge. Our education does not encourage diverse knowledge outside our borders except on international day where it’s more about food than culture and history and international news.
It's not that they believe that's how they work; but rather that we are grossly underestimating the amount of people that actually believe Europe is in fact a country.
I think it's more likely because they think the European Union works the same way as the United States (it doesn't), and also they dont know that only like half (or even less? Idk) of all european countries are part of the EU
This was initially a reply, but someone said it might be useful as it’s own comment: I’m not in the minds of the CPO, but I think him saying it’s about his politics is misdirection. It’s more about the way his behaviour reflects on his ability to practice as a psychologist. There’s a quote from the CPA’s ethical guidelines that sums up the problem pretty well: “This Code is intended to guide and regulate only those activities a psychologist engages in by virtue of being a psychologist. […] Personal behaviour becomes a concern of the discipline only if it is of such a nature that it undermines public trust in the discipline as a whole or if it raises questions about the psychologist’s ability to carry out appropriately his/her responsibilities as a psychologist.” And his conduct definitely fits the bill there IMO. Just for one example, imagine the tweet about that Sports Illustrated model. If you run around saying things like “this person isn’t beautiful and no amount of authoritarian tolerance can change that”, I think that reflects pretty badly on your ability to provide care for people with eating disorders, body dysmorphia, and any number of issues around food and body image that affect a lot of people with mental health issues at one point or another. And given how often he does things like that, he’s indicated that this is a pattern of behaviour that he’s unwilling to change. On top of that, from what I’ve seen, he’s absolutely undermining public trust in the discipline - as someone from the same province who got their psychology degree over the course of JBP’s rise to fame and subsequent downfall, he’s undermined MY trust in the discipline, and I’m someone who cares a lot about it. Frankly, I think the fact that they waited this long should be a sign of how difficult it is to actually prompt this type of disciplinary action in the first place.
@Chaya Raichik's Inflamed Hemorrhoid That's part of it honestly, he's not up to date on his psychology education because it requires constant updating.
@@hrodebertcoad9848 , Further, when it comes to his own personal _biases_ he has already concluded that the _best practices_ are wrong and will never adhere to them.
But that's not the reasons that were cited. From my understanding, it had to do with JP talking about the unnecessary severity of the Covid-19 lockdowns, criticizing Justin Trudeau and other politicians, and making a joke about the prime minister of New Zealand. This just seems like a political disagreement rather than a concern for his behavior.
Is he even a practacing Psychologist? If not, what does it matter if his licence were revoked? He can still keep doing what he's been doing, raking in millions.
yeah but it hurts his public image. A lot of his momentum doesn't come from him being a smart cookie, it comes from him being an academic and a licensed therapist. That license gives him an air of legitimacy, it lets people to point to him and say "see, he agrees and he's a psychologist so I must be correct!" If it gets taken away (even if he's not actively using it) it hurts his image and brands him as a failure in some respect, with the general public at least. Obviously his fanboys are just going to use it as further proof that the institutions are corrupt and just want to silence JP's massive correctness.
It mattes because they're doing it because he criticized the government and their propaganda and their harmful, like we're in north korea or iran or saudi arabia
because this is just an opportunity for him and his daughter to whine and cry about how they’re persecuted by the canadian government and getting cancelled, i’m sure JP feels shame for losing what was his life and career for so many years because of being an unhinged hack, but they really don’t care because they just see it as another opportunity to promote themselves to even more right wing idiots
No psychology institution wants their reputation attached to him. So removing it saves real psychologists’ reputation in the field and denying him any institutional support.
Wait, if he’s only potentially getting his license revoked then he just wouldn’t be a *licensed* psychologist. He would still be a doctor; that is, unless they decided to revoke his doctorate degree as well…
There seems to be rules in Canada about just that. Revoking a person's license to practice also prevents them from presenting themselves as "Dr." in this particular case.
@@Steelmage99 it's not just Canada. To be able to call your self a psychologist there is an international body. You need to keep up to date in literature and current trends as psychology is a developing field. You can't keep using the DSM 3 just cause you feel like it for example (that's the one from the 80s that had homosexuality as a mental disorder).
@@winnkey fingers crossed he has to do a refresher on what was considered gender identity disorder before the DSM-5 and has a public breakdown over compelled speech.
@@benjaminjameskreger Honestly the fact that Peterson doesn't seem to discuss what a disorder even is... It is very telling because there's no way he doesn't know. He just makes a lot of money from letting conservatives believe the "disorder"="delusion" stupidity.
Licensing boards are created to protect the public. If you post crazy shit in a public forum, most licensure boards (not sure about Canada) can call into question your ability to ethically treat the public if complaints were filed against you. Most likely a lot of people (does not have to be a patient) filed complaints against Denim Dan and the board looked into them. But what do I know? I’m just a licensed clinical therapist.
The question becomes is he being crazy or just different…. is it about politics or do they question his actual well being? I don’t agree with most of what he says as I’m left wing and not like him… but what he’s saying on average is a classic right winged opinion… so what are we saying? Right winged opinions can cost you a license? Or… do they have actual info on him that can cost him? I work in the medical field too, just not psychology. I feel like personally what is happening there in canada wouldn’t be allowed in the US.
@@eddieisfiction442 I'd say that there is a definite risk this will happen in the US in the near future too. Groups of extremists that belief the ends justify the means are beginning to pop up in more and more institutions like this one, and that tends to be the start of political persecution. Also considering they wanted him to go through some kind of bias training chances are this is about politics in JBP's case, specifically his stance on trans people. On top of that there were, I recall, only about a handful or so complaints, which I'm not sure they even verified that they had been his patients (they probably would have had to ask JBP for that so I doubt that). So more likely to be people with political beef with him, considering there are millions of those, rather than actual patients of his. We need these institutions to remain neutral else they will become a political battleground as well. Then people in need of psychological care may avoid it because they belief they're for one political side, leading to mentally unhealthy people with strong political beliefs and no help skyrocketing. Sadly what Canada does will spread over the internet and convince even some people in other countries that it is happening over there too. So, this is bad news imo.
@@eddieisfiction442 He spilled info about his own patients in his books and called people he doesn't like narcissists for a start... Apparently there's more.
@@eddieisfiction442 Think about that: If someone is your therapist, you have a special therapist - patient relationship. The therapists job is to help you, the way you need it, so if you are like, very religious and your therapist is an atheist, it would be unethical for him to convince you to become an atheist. The problem is that, if the therapist is someone who makes his extreme views public, the patient - therapist relationship can be strained. Suddenly you the see the therapist in a differend light, and that can damage your healing process, because now you may disagree with his public views, and no longer trust him, or feel save and understood. It doesn't matter what the views are, as a therapist, you have to take back on your own views, to help the patient first.
@@trinketeerrine6674 if that’s the case and patient confidentiality was exposed i would agree, i’m not fully up to date on him, but ive been mostly hearing political arguments and not reasonable arguments. What you said would be a reasonable argument.
Imagine seeking psychological counseling, you walk into the doctor's office, and it's Jordan Peterson sitting there in his James Bond villain suit and Elon Musk tie. I would literally become the gif of Homer stepping back nervously into the hedge.
Wow I hadn't thought about the fact that he has a psych license for a loooong while. Considering how unhinged he has been in public appearances it should have been revoked a long time ago. A person who bursts into tears every 5 seconds obviously shouldn't be practicing psychology.
I’ve seen some of the papers he published professionally. He seemed very intelligent in those. I’d very much like to see him return to Psychology instead of commentary. In terms of commentary, he’s said some rather stupid things in the past. Could some sort of mental deterioration be at play?
Yes añd Peterson's fan thinks that JP is smarter than vaush. I mean no one can win against vaush when he puts social construct in a argument when he debates. Vaush is literally One of most profound intellectual in the world. God send vaush to save world. He's a saviour.
There are also often continued education requirements for many professional licenses. If Peterson didn’t get or file those things for certification that could cause his license to be revoked or not renewed.
Right? I have a rinkydink associates in health informatics, and even I need to meet continuing education requirements. They're so fucking dramatic about literally everything.
He got ill from his ecocidal effin meat diet. Hes not only starving himself of nutrients and antioxidants, but also maximising his risk of various cardiovascular diseases and cancers (like colorectal cancer)
This; plus lifelong antidepressant use (not just SSRIs, but given his age also old school MAOIs and tricyclics and who knows what else), benzo addiction, and untreated schizophrenia (Mikhaila admitted that he was clinically diagnosed!). His brain is deep fried at the chemical and structural levels.
As a European it sometimes feels like, we are a big dysfunctional family and someboddy should call CPS, but at least we dont try to kill each other (that mutch) anymor.
Maybe she can start with Dr, Jordan B. Peterson's takes on women making use of make-up, fake eyelashes, exposing their skin, etc. in the workplace/marketplace.
I love the idea that professional regulatory associations are being infiltrated by government....Kermit the Frog's intellect obviously skipped his progeny.
Kermit the Frog has very little intellect to pass to any progeny, even in potentia. The daughter seems exactly as intelligent as I would expect her to be.
@ElJay123 Your original reply state BOTH Psychology and Psychiatry are pseudo-science. Psychiatry is a real science. Psychiatrists graduate from medical school and them receive additional training.
@@hwhack I can't see the other replies (thanks RUclips) but if we're being technical, they are both legitimate sciences, but only one is also a medical practice as you said. Psychiatry is interesting though as it's, as far as I'm aware, pretty unique in being a blend of both social and natural sciences.
Wouldnt he be the real world equivilant to gilderoy lockhart? The harry potter equivilant to gilderoy lockhart is gilderoy lockhard. Jps harry potter equivalent would be gilderoy lockhart
The Canadian Psychology Association IS NOT A BRANCH OF GOV. It’s a national organization insuring certain standards in psychology education are maintained.
It's not a branch of government but it is a quasi-governmental agency. The Ontario government regulates professional organizations through certain acts of parliament and the governing board of professional colleges have government appointed "community representatives" to oversee college operations are for the interest of the public and not just the colleges.
Because it's the ONLY thing that allows the right wing to say "oh well he's a doctor in psychology he obviously knows about this" remember right wing dogma requires citing "academics"
I think in my country you loose your licesnse automatically if you don't practice for a while anyways. And it's not a big deal you can re apply with your degree (which he keeps) and a little "test" that you've kept up with developmemts in the fields which may have occured.
My coworker looks to Peterson as some sort of father figure. He didn’t like this news so I reminded him that his father figure needs to practice medicine in order to keep his license. What job do you think he has? “He’s a psychologist”. And that’s why he’s getting his license revoked.
As Vaush explains the term "cultural marxism," it bears emphasizing that Jordan Peterson was primarily responsible for popularizing the term among the not Nazi wing of the Right.
JP is soooo close to getting the Sapologie drip, colourful suits and remixes of old male fashions tyles. But his whiteness stops him from getting the maximum amount of drip
As a Canadian, I apologize for Peterson. The Canadian government isn't giving Peterson a hard time because of his critique of the government, it's the fact that Peterson is grifting and radicalizing vulnerable and stupid young men.
*IF YOU ARE A COMMERCIAL PILOT* and you get done for drunk driving - you lose your pilot's licence... If you are a PROFESSIONAL and you engage in unprofessional behaviour - you tend to lose your accreditation - its as simple as that.
Wanting to revoke someone's credentials because they "antagonize their field" is a terrible take. The appropriate standard is major misconduct or ethical violations, which I suspect he's been accused of if he's telling the truth and he really is at risk of having his license revoked (that or he simply failed to renew something or fulfill continuing education requirements).
What’s crazy to me is to see how most people are reacting to this. I was just in Joe Rogans comment section about Jordan and my god these people have to be living on another planet. More people have brain worms then you would think. The other day my coworker said he agrees with Peterson on some stuff when I was making fun of him and his Kermit voice. He appeals to the normies in droves. Also support for Andrew Tate is still insanely high. I’m worried for the future.
I love the united shared ethnicity us asians have, I can take comfort in the fact that my brethren in Uzbekistan and my brethren in Indonesia look all look alike and just like me
Peterson should lose absolutely lose his license because he would have his wife sort through confidential patient info without the patient's consent and direct his recipients to send argumentative emails to professors he ideologically disagrees with on his behalf which is not only crazy unethical for a therapist but flat out evil.
Yeah I looked it up. There's articles from global news and national post. He refuses to take a course on social media ethics that he is being made to take because of multiple complaints about his unprofessionalism on twitter. Basically he's being a big baby, and not the good kind like Artemy.
13:00 and so on: Yes, common tactic. Anyone opposed to a problem being solved, or whose religious metanarratives depend on the continuation of the problem, will accuse those of attempting to solve the problem of "going too far" and *causing* the reaction from their opposition. It reduces to: "Don't make me hurt you for taking steps to prevent being harmed." Typical victim-blaming BS
@@lonelyone69 you mean all his performance reviews from his own friend and mentor constantly calls him out for speaking from positions of authority on subjects he clearly has no functional knowledge of? And then from those same highly flawed, factually incorrect lectures, then drawing his own thin conjecture, and treating those conclusions like fact or some sort of universal truth?? That same mentor who, had to fight to get him a job as a prof in the first place cuz otherwise he wasn't viewed as fit for the gig? The same friend and mentor who some years back publicly released a letter apologizing to the world for ever given JBP any sort of clout which allowed him to rise to prominence and start spreading dangerous nonsense from a global platform?? Even his student reviews from his time as a prof were "mediocre" at best. And only AFTER he became famous for spouting reactionary talking points did those reviews start to change. And if you READ those reviews, there's nothing actually reflecting his expertise or knowledge. Just generic "He's changed my life with his book!". So...yeah, he gets glowing, vague reviews from people who read his regurgitation of very basic and banal self help concepts dating back at least to "How to Win Friends and Influence People" in the 1930s. If not long before that. Hell, I remember even around 2008 as social media became more prominent, seeing any number of random "lists" being posted by no-names of "how to improve your life". All of which also just repeating old, generic stuff. Which can be helpful, yes, but... They're far from "brilliant" or "innovative" thoughts. And it's kinda concerning to see some of his followers insult themselves by thinking that his recital of old life tips is some revolutionary stroke of genius, and somehow smarter than they are.
The Canadian government has nothing to do with his licence. It’s a completely independent body. His daughter says, “appointed by the government” as if Trudeau himself gave them the job, which, like everything else the Petersons say or think, is complete bullshit.
@@V34035 If you go to the tweets as disclosed by Peterson in the Toronto Sun there were a shitload of tweets that got complaints. Peterson is focusing on the one where he called a politician a prick, and the covid denialism because those are defensible for the right. He's conveniently ignoring the one where he asked someone to commit suicide, and misgendered trans people, and called fat women ugly.
@@ifeeltiredsleepy And non of these give the right to go and take his license you can only take it when he doesn't do his job right, which he has, proven by millions of ppl thanking him, for helping them. He didn't ask someone to commit suicide, even Vaush was like he has a point here. If you got a problem with the planet being overpopulated, which is not, then you can leave, tf do you want ppl to say. Cus I won't, your the one that cares, I don't. Misgendering ppl has nothing to do with a license, this literally proves his point of you guys trying to force ppl to call you things. And stop lying again, he didn't say she is ugly, he said being overweight is not beautiful cus it isn't. None of these are things to take his license or prove anything, actually, these prove him right 🤣🤣
@@V34035 If you believe that what you have listened to/watched/read and, seemingly, swallowed whole, from the guy over the last 5/6 years was Jordan Peterson 'doing his job' as a *clinical psychologist* .... then I'd say you just prove that the CPO is absolutely right to be concerned.
The government does not put people in charge of professions. They do enact laws that require there be licensing etc., but professions are self-governed. Licensing requirements and procedures are overseen by psychologists, elected by psychologists, and other people hired by the psychologists. The government is not involved. So of course, a Peterson is lying about what the government is doing.
JP uses dog whistles so that they don't strike down his channel and so he can still get on TV and yet this guy is like "Why doesn't he mention the Jews more?"
If I had the social media reach that JP has, and had engaged in a public bullying and bashing of a transgender individual, I would've had my license revoked immediately.
Kinda funny how the take responsibility for your life guy takes absolutely no responsibility for his own actions. Jordy is at risk of losing his license due to his own irresponsible actions, not due to some grand government conspiracy against him.
This sucks. I hate that people can literally be banned from teaching professional psychology and still have followers just because they're media figures. I hate online politics. I hate everything
Vaush when we Europeans say "European nationalism" we aren't talking about any nation of Europe, as you assumed the guy in chat to mean. We are talking about the types of nationalism that individual countries in Europe have being similar to each other and having common differences from American nationalism.
@@Painocus Rarely yes. The point was that Vaush misunderstood the guy in chat using the term "European Nationalism" as "nationalism towards Europe" when he was OBVIOUSLY talking about Norwegian nationalism, Italian nationalism, French nationalism, Swedish nationalism etc. Whether what he was trying to say was a good point or not isn't relevant. He wasn't saying what Vaush thought he was saying.
@@cyberneticbutterfly8506 Even if so, those are drastically different from each-other. Norwegian nationalism has largely been one of independence struggle against Danish colonialism, Swedish imperialism and German occupation. France was one of the great historical and colonial powers of Europe and it's nationalism has been framed throught that. Italy is young as a unified nation and it's nationalism has until recently at-least been about uniting the formerly separate Italian states under a constructed monolithic identity. These are all as different from eachother as any are from American nationalism, and as such there are no common European form of nationalism either.
@@Painocus Yeah, it's a commonly seen and oft-used technique on the far-right of trying to speak a truth into existence by just insisting that it is so. To project some kind of unity that isn't there in the slightest. They do the same thing with they refer to groups as monoliths and start going on about "whites," and every time I see it I'm thinking, "wtf are you talking about? I have more in common with an illegal immigrant from Mexico than I do with any of these dipshits and I would gladly take several million of those over a single Tucker Carlson."
@@Painocus I don't see current day Norwegian nationalism as even remembering any of the historical stuff apart from ww2. Point is that the guy in chat wasn't talking about some nonexistent nationalism towards Europe as a whole.
In health care, when you're in trouble and a serious allegation is before a board for review, one way to end the investigation is to voluntarily surrender your license to practice. This is what Jordan Peterson did when he was challenged on a variety of ethical issues related to his clinical behavior. Specifically, he was answering the phone and emailing people during a session, among other weird boundary violations. There was some flirtation, too.
The Canadian Psychological Association, an independent body that issues licenses was organized in 1939 and incorporated under the Canada Corporations Act, Part II, in May 1950. The CPA received its Certificate of Continuance under the Canada Not-for-profit Corporations Act (NFP Act) in August 2013.
True, but to qualify as a regulated profession they have to acquiesce to certain government oversight, which includes a sizable portion of its board made up of political appointees. Though still the majority of the college is run by elected members.
6:22 Y'all almost gave me a panic attack from that beat; this was the last place I expected Carpenter Brut's "Turbo Killer" to start blasting out of nowhere
Pretty ironic for McKayla to be blaming license disputes for her dad’s illness when she’s the one who almost killed him with her freak meat diet. Kinda feels like a desperate blame shift more than a real point.
To think of Europeans as some sort of a unified "tribe of whites" is so cute. I don't think these people understand the depth of hatred an European has for another European while both of them live closer to each other than a single of your state goes.
EDIT:
Given how this frivolous post of mine somehow blew up, let me explain that was supposed to be a joke.
You mean they live in Germany and couldn't care less about the conflicts at home?
Damn Europeans, they ruined Europe
Europe is the same as when you are stuck in a small house with like twelve siblings
Europeans have waged war upon each other for centuries.
As an aside, in that regard the EU has had the unintentional side-effect of creating peace internally in Europe. Our economies are now so intertwined, that we cannot afford to wage war upon each other anymore. :)
There are millions upon millions of white people who look exactly the same, and yet carry a racialized hatred for random pockets of each other that would make klansmen blush
Why is the idea of Jordan’s license being revoked so scary for the Peterson family? He isn’t a psychologist anymore. He isn’t a professor anymore. He was basically kicked out of that profession. His job is a right wing commentator. He’s the red skull. He literally makes more money in a month than he made as a professor combined. He’s a multimillionaire author and right wing commentator. This is like Donald trump and his family being afraid of the government taking away the presidency from him. Lol you didn’t have it anymore to begin with.
It's not.. but he's playing the victim because it plays into conservatives dumb theory that the government and "the left" are out to get them
It's not scary. It's just more fodder for attention-seeking and reactionary fear-mongering.
The license is useful for the grift. Its handy for bringing over moderates because it gives him the air of an expert, and therefore makes his conclusions (no matter how wild) seem more legitimate then they are. If he loses that then it might make moderates scrutinize him a bit more, as an unlicensed psychologist is less trustworthy then a licensed one. And for good reason, its why we have the licensing boards to begin with.
This will change nothing with his fanboys, of course, as they will make the assumption that its just another way he is being oppressed by the government/big pharm/new world order/cultural marxists/jews (yes, I know many of those are synonyms in these people's eyes)
I mean for both examples the official title is the foundation for their entire grift, so if they lose the ability to refer back to it the whole tower could start crumbling beneath them.
It's hard to market oneself as an intellectual guru if they're a disbarred doctor. But I'm certain he'll find way. His fans love him.
They had to take JP's license away because he was practicing psycho logic instead of psychology. It's a small but important difference...
Well... yeah... "Hospitals do more harm than good. If someone runs the numbers they will see that it is true. But I could be wrong. But I may not be wrong!" - Peterson in an interview
P.s. A simple google search shows him wrong... and his tweet which he mentioned this was also commented on about how he's so wrong, he's talking out of his ass... but that doesn't phase him.
"YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO CURE THE SCHIZOS NOT JOIN THEM!!!"
@@aralornwolf3140 If you think that makes a person unworthy to practice their profession that they have practiced with exactly zero issues for decades then you are a manic.
@@Rallylabs Well not exactly decades - 15 years - and not exactly 'zero' issues:
*"Y'know, I've also been accused three times in my career of s-x-l impropriety. Baseless accusations. And the last one really tangled me up for a whole year. It's not entertaining."*
-- Jordan Peterson, UofBC, February 2018. The video of him saying this was taken down at the end of last year (surprise, surprise).
Search 'Jordan Peterson 13 year old Rabid Harpies' or 'Jordan Peterson admits having 3 cases' - to see a full transcript in the comments, of what he said.
For the record, the last one, the one that really 'tangled him up' was actually a complaint of Professional Misconduct. His appearance at UofBC came just 8 days after the outcome of that complaint was published. This showed that Peterson was obliged to give a written promise to respect his patients’ boundaries and to address how he communicates with them. He also had to commit to a program of self-reporting his activities to the CPO. This agreement avoided a disciplinary hearing.
(See: 'after-misconduct-complaint-jordan-peterson-agrees-to-plan-for-clinical-improvement') .
However, he had closed his practice a year earlier and was about to embark on his world tour promoting '12 Rules'. So he never made good on this agreement.
He hasn't practised for six years.
AND, when the video of Petersons 'rabid harpies' comments went viral, the young lady who made that last complaint was concerned she might be identified and she and her complaint were being misrepresented. She said: “That is not what this is. This is not that,” *“This is about a bad doctor who didn’t do his job, and I got hurt.”* (See Canadaland).
So, he has been here before... . and as a clinician, too.
For example?
I'm starting to believe the right is actually clinically unable to understand the concept of consequances.
*consequences
You write it with e
Max 2 steps of logic
@@TwoForFlinchin1 likely not even in the right order lmao
taking part in democratic debate/conversation should not lead to revoking his license.. Im not a fan of JP and not right wing but this is insane woke mind rot...
@@Arguments_only Don't be stupid. He's not acting as a professional. Why should he have his licence if he's a danger to his patients?
maybe if you long range diagnose whole groups of people with narcissism you might not be fit as a practicing psychologist
Hey, my moms partner does that
When... when did he do that? I've seen some of his debates and haven't seen much other than a recognition that the general narcissistic tendencies in basically every person can push someone towards a "moral high ground" type of political stance. What talk or debate or function did he do this at because that would be atrocious?
@@vyrv6719 Treating these groups as "needing to be fixed" or "out of their mind" etc. Idk about you but this mindset as a Doctor of Psychologie, as far as reasons for getting a License revoked go, is pretty damn reasonable.
@@_-_sinexus_-_ Since when? he isn't practicing right now because of that exact conflict of interest right?
yeah just looked it up, he put out a release when he stopped practicing and included the conflict as one of the reasons.
For me it was publicly fat shaming a woman online. As a psychologist why did he think that was okay? He obviously didn’t* care about her or anyone else’s mental health yet we supposed to have sympathy* for him during his struggles with mental health. Illogical.
He has done way worse than that. Using his patients medical conditions in his self help book. Without permission and he went into enough details that you can recognize the individual from it if you know them some what enough. He has straight up violated HIPAA.
Wasn't that fatshaming from clearly his own personal point of view, without him realizing his own personal bias?
@@maxgrozema1093 Point is it makes other overweight or obese peoples suffering from mental health who may have sought psychological help less inclined to seek this service, especially after seeing a licensed Ontario doctor publically degrade their nature. It's like if you were struggling to get off drugs, needed professional help, but then you see the doctors from where you're asking from help saying shit like "dumbass druggies should go to hell", wouldn't exactly make your potential patients feel very safe in an environment where they want to improve.
@@Killerbee4712 Not sure Peterson said fat people should go to hell. I do, however, have heard him denounce the fat people's attitude that it's absolutely amazing to be fat, so much so that they make up words like "fat acceptance" and "fat pride" on Twitter. I'm on the curvy side myself but I don't make it my whole personality as if it was some kind of award to be fat.
@@bendover9620 I am aware, and in agreement with you, but his attitude should not be of condemnation, but of understanding and help, or else he's not doing his job.
Jordo abandoned his patients and leaked their personal information to each other the moment he noticed people started paying attention to him and smelled the possibility of fame. He's absolutely despicable and a net loss for society as a whole. It would be better if he stayed an obscure academic, at least he would have helped someone (maybe).
Do you have a source for the leaked information bit?
@@stefvanroey8191 The man's own books.
@@josh-oo As much as I despise the guy that's a really weak point, if they're anonymized that's not leaking people's information. Medical providers need to be able to talk about cases as long as their patients remain unidentifiable.
@@stefvanroey8191 can't link here, generally, but there's a news article out there in the town the clinic he used to work in was. He started distancing himself pretty early on.
I really hope he wasn't seeing anyone for serious reasons, because having a counselor ditch you tends to rock the patients pretty hard
@@iz2333 They didn't remain unidentifiable though. That's the entire problem.
“They’re threatening to take his psychology license” = “they’re asking him to take a continuing education course on social media professionalism, after which he’d keep his license, but he’s such a toddler that he’s refusing to do it so he might lose his license on that basis”. Just so we’re all clear.
While true, the question is why do they get the right to restrict his political opinions online? I don’t agree with his opinions, but I imagine this wouldn’t fly in the US.
@@eddieisfiction442 Apparently he has been sharing personal info of patients with other ones. However its wierd as a leftist the assumption you are making for this guy to justify y he shouldn't lose his license while admitting you don't actually know y he is losing it.
@Eddieisfiction It's not that hes posting his political opinions. He's been doing that for years with no consequences. Its that hes been posting like a madman and has been mentally unraveling publicly online in a way that goes against the guidelines of the College.
@@eddieisfiction442 Of course they can, if it pertains to him using his license/degree as an appeal to authority where it pertains to the subject field.
Any license has to be _maintained,_ you know?
@@brendonstephen1246 i just heard about that and yes i would agree that part in itself would be a good reason to investigate him.
Colleges, when it comes to medical licenses, are regulatory bodies. They don’t just give you a license and look away if you act insane. Although, Mikhaila Peterson literally only has a public platform due to nepotism, so I don’t expect her to know anything about anything except for “my dad says...”.
It's a nice feedback loop too, since Jordo himself has made many of his personal health decisions based on whatever insanity his "health influencer" daughter suggested. All meat diet? Did it on her advice. Getting off benzos with a dangerous chemically induced coma in Russia? Her idea. Her qualifications on health or dietary advice?? None.
Just when I thought he couldn't get any weirder: Elon Musk tie.
Man is definitely not ok
We live in a clown world
He thinks an all meat diet is healthy and that apple cider nearly killed him. Clearly his brain doesn't entirely work properly.
@@thunderpooch just because you can survive on a certain diet, i.e, a strictly conivorous diet, doesn’t mean it’s healthy. You can survive on butter and potatoes, still wouldn’t be that healthy. I don’t understand people who act like just because it works for one person that it’s universally good 😂
I like it, fits his goofy. He's always been the most self serious unserious person.
JBP writes about the private life of his patients in his Rules for Life books. He describes them with enough details to be recognized, without permission. This is enough to revoke a psych license.
To add to the European Nationalism bit - I'm Polish. And a lot of the nationalist rhetoric (except for the Anti-Semitism) is centered around hating Germans and Russians. Like Europeans have literally 2000 years of grudges to draw upon. We're not one people xD
Hasn't been hating the Germans the talking point since the fall of Rome?
I was shocked that he even still had his license after his rhetoric around transgender individuals and his penchant for conversion therapy (torture). It is similar to a psychiatrist praising the effectiveness of lobotomy in the 1970s....a few decades after the practice was widely denounced and stopped.
He also has historically shown serious conflicts of interest that he's failed/refused to acknowledge and account for, peddles risky fads with no empirical basis like the all-meat-diet, and talks about his previous clients in a really creepy, callous, and unprofessional manner, IMHO, on top of talking about vulnerable populations (e.g., trans people) in a cavalier, insensitive, and counterfactual manner.
It's always bothered me that lots of psychologists will rant and rave about Dr. Phil until the cows come home, but psychs who are willing to criticize or condemn Peterson have been way too few and far between, IMHO.
Lobotomies are still practiced today. They weren't banned. There are still issues that this is the only way to stop them from hurting themselves or others. If ypu don't know you shouldn't speak.
@@gregschnidt679 You should probably take your own advice because you're just wrong. While it's true the procedure hasn't been banned, it also hasn't been performed since 1967.
There is a still practiced psychosurgery preformed deep within the frontal lobe called a bilateral cingulotomy. Its done as a last resort for extreme cases of OCD and depression. However this procedure is pretty far removed from the ol' ice pick brain scramble. it's highly targeted surgery that requires the informed consent of the patient. It's more effective with significantly less negative side effects and undesirable personality changes. It's not "the amputation of the soul" like lobotomies were.
Furthermore it's also not used as a simple way to pacify patients that pose a great risk to themselves or others. Patients like that are sedated with drugs, not subjected to non consensual brain surgery.
@@doomygloomy8665 it hasn't been performed in America since 1967.
@@gregschnidt679 cool so you realize your statement was dumb
The reason Americans think of Europe as a single thing is because that's what the US is, a bunch of small states under one government, they think because the countries in Europe are the same size as some of the larger states that's how they work
No it’s because Americans have poor world history knowledge. Our education does not encourage diverse knowledge outside our borders except on international day where it’s more about food than culture and history and international news.
It's not that they believe that's how they work; but rather that we are grossly underestimating the amount of people that actually believe Europe is in fact a country.
I think it's more likely because they think the European Union works the same way as the United States (it doesn't), and also they dont know that only like half (or even less? Idk) of all european countries are part of the EU
@@theinvisiblewoman5709 yeah, that's not mutually exclusive lol, it's both
@@BeefPapa people also think Africa is a country too and every Asian is Chinese and every Latino is Mexican. It’s very sad.
This was initially a reply, but someone said it might be useful as it’s own comment: I’m not in the minds of the CPO, but I think him saying it’s about his politics is misdirection. It’s more about the way his behaviour reflects on his ability to practice as a psychologist. There’s a quote from the CPA’s ethical guidelines that sums up the problem pretty well:
“This Code is intended to guide and regulate only those activities a psychologist engages in by virtue of being a psychologist. […] Personal behaviour becomes a concern of the discipline only if it is of such a nature that it undermines public trust in the discipline as a whole or if it raises questions about the psychologist’s ability to carry out appropriately his/her responsibilities as a psychologist.”
And his conduct definitely fits the bill there IMO. Just for one example, imagine the tweet about that Sports Illustrated model. If you run around saying things like “this person isn’t beautiful and no amount of authoritarian tolerance can change that”, I think that reflects pretty badly on your ability to provide care for people with eating disorders, body dysmorphia, and any number of issues around food and body image that affect a lot of people with mental health issues at one point or another. And given how often he does things like that, he’s indicated that this is a pattern of behaviour that he’s unwilling to change. On top of that, from what I’ve seen, he’s absolutely undermining public trust in the discipline - as someone from the same province who got their psychology degree over the course of JBP’s rise to fame and subsequent downfall, he’s undermined MY trust in the discipline, and I’m someone who cares a lot about it. Frankly, I think the fact that they waited this long should be a sign of how difficult it is to actually prompt this type of disciplinary action in the first place.
@Chaya Raichik's Inflamed Hemorrhoid That's part of it honestly, he's not up to date on his psychology education because it requires constant updating.
@@hrodebertcoad9848 ,
Further, when it comes to his own personal _biases_ he has already concluded that the _best practices_ are wrong and will never adhere to them.
But that's not the reasons that were cited. From my understanding, it had to do with JP talking about the unnecessary severity of the Covid-19 lockdowns, criticizing Justin Trudeau and other politicians, and making a joke about the prime minister of New Zealand. This just seems like a political disagreement rather than a concern for his behavior.
@@wakkablockablaw6025 any links for that? Cuz I so far haven't seen anything official about that, only Peterson himself claiming that's the reason.
A fat person can't be called fat but it's ok for him to be called a nazi and get bullied
Is he even a practacing Psychologist? If not, what does it matter if his licence were revoked? He can still keep doing what he's been doing, raking in millions.
yeah but it hurts his public image. A lot of his momentum doesn't come from him being a smart cookie, it comes from him being an academic and a licensed therapist. That license gives him an air of legitimacy, it lets people to point to him and say "see, he agrees and he's a psychologist so I must be correct!" If it gets taken away (even if he's not actively using it) it hurts his image and brands him as a failure in some respect, with the general public at least. Obviously his fanboys are just going to use it as further proof that the institutions are corrupt and just want to silence JP's massive correctness.
It mattes because they're doing it because he criticized the government and their propaganda and their harmful, like we're in north korea or iran or saudi arabia
because this is just an opportunity for him and his daughter to whine and cry about how they’re persecuted by the canadian government and getting cancelled, i’m sure JP feels shame for losing what was his life and career for so many years because of being an unhinged hack, but they really don’t care because they just see it as another opportunity to promote themselves to even more right wing idiots
Being a cult-leader is working out well for him
No psychology institution wants their reputation attached to him. So removing it saves real psychologists’ reputation in the field and denying him any institutional support.
Wait, if he’s only potentially getting his license revoked then he just wouldn’t be a *licensed* psychologist. He would still be a doctor; that is, unless they decided to revoke his doctorate degree as well…
There seems to be rules in Canada about just that.
Revoking a person's license to practice also prevents them from presenting themselves as "Dr." in this particular case.
@@Steelmage99 it's not just Canada. To be able to call your self a psychologist there is an international body. You need to keep up to date in literature and current trends as psychology is a developing field. You can't keep using the DSM 3 just cause you feel like it for example (that's the one from the 80s that had homosexuality as a mental disorder).
@@winnkey fingers crossed he has to do a refresher on what was considered gender identity disorder before the DSM-5 and has a public breakdown over compelled speech.
@@benjaminjameskreger Honestly the fact that Peterson doesn't seem to discuss what a disorder even is... It is very telling because there's no way he doesn't know. He just makes a lot of money from letting conservatives believe the "disorder"="delusion" stupidity.
What's the difference between the chinese or north korean or saudi goverment and the canadian goverment at this point ?
Licensing boards are created to protect the public. If you post crazy shit in a public forum, most licensure boards (not sure about Canada) can call into question your ability to ethically treat the public if complaints were filed against you. Most likely a lot of people (does not have to be a patient) filed complaints against Denim Dan and the board looked into them. But what do I know? I’m just a licensed clinical therapist.
The question becomes is he being crazy or just different…. is it about politics or do they question his actual well being? I don’t agree with most of what he says as I’m left wing and not like him… but what he’s saying on average is a classic right winged opinion… so what are we saying? Right winged opinions can cost you a license? Or… do they have actual info on him that can cost him? I work in the medical field too, just not psychology. I feel like personally what is happening there in canada wouldn’t be allowed in the US.
@@eddieisfiction442 I'd say that there is a definite risk this will happen in the US in the near future too. Groups of extremists that belief the ends justify the means are beginning to pop up in more and more institutions like this one, and that tends to be the start of political persecution.
Also considering they wanted him to go through some kind of bias training chances are this is about politics in JBP's case, specifically his stance on trans people. On top of that there were, I recall, only about a handful or so complaints, which I'm not sure they even verified that they had been his patients (they probably would have had to ask JBP for that so I doubt that). So more likely to be people with political beef with him, considering there are millions of those, rather than actual patients of his.
We need these institutions to remain neutral else they will become a political battleground as well. Then people in need of psychological care may avoid it because they belief they're for one political side, leading to mentally unhealthy people with strong political beliefs and no help skyrocketing.
Sadly what Canada does will spread over the internet and convince even some people in other countries that it is happening over there too. So, this is bad news imo.
@@eddieisfiction442 He spilled info about his own patients in his books and called people he doesn't like narcissists for a start... Apparently there's more.
@@eddieisfiction442
Think about that:
If someone is your therapist, you have a special therapist - patient relationship. The therapists job is to help you, the way you need it, so if you are like, very religious and your therapist is an atheist, it would be unethical for him to convince you to become an atheist.
The problem is that, if the therapist is someone who makes his extreme views public, the patient - therapist relationship can be strained. Suddenly you the see the therapist in a differend light, and that can damage your healing process, because now you may disagree with his public views, and no longer trust him, or feel save and understood.
It doesn't matter what the views are, as a therapist, you have to take back on your own views, to help the patient first.
@@trinketeerrine6674 if that’s the case and patient confidentiality was exposed i would agree, i’m not fully up to date on him, but ive been mostly hearing political arguments and not reasonable arguments. What you said would be a reasonable argument.
Imagine seeking psychological counseling, you walk into the doctor's office, and it's Jordan Peterson sitting there in his James Bond villain suit and Elon Musk tie. I would literally become the gif of Homer stepping back nervously into the hedge.
I wonder what insults he'd throw at you as U do that
Just remember, JBP's wikipedia entry starts with "Jordan Bernt Peterson is a Canadian *media personality*, clinical psychologist" (emphasis mine).
Ooh I hope when it goes through someone writes unlicensed in there
Wow I hadn't thought about the fact that he has a psych license for a loooong while. Considering how unhinged he has been in public appearances it should have been revoked a long time ago. A person who bursts into tears every 5 seconds obviously shouldn't be practicing psychology.
I’ve seen some of the papers he published professionally. He seemed very intelligent in those. I’d very much like to see him return to Psychology instead of commentary.
In terms of commentary, he’s said some rather stupid things in the past. Could some sort of mental deterioration be at play?
And there still isnt a batter pshyhologist than him
_People want to take me down for my bad ideas!_
Yes añd Peterson's fan thinks that JP is smarter than vaush. I mean no one can win against vaush when he puts social construct in a argument when he debates. Vaush is literally One of most profound intellectual in the world. God send vaush to save world. He's a saviour.
@@narendrasomawat5978 B-B-Based 👆👆👆
_"People want to take me down for my good ideas!"_
@@zyansheep Ah yes, Cultural Bolsheivism (The Jewish Question) should be an acceptable mainstream topic.
There are also often continued education requirements for many professional licenses. If Peterson didn’t get or file those things for certification that could cause his license to be revoked or not renewed.
Right? I have a rinkydink associates in health informatics, and even I need to meet continuing education requirements. They're so fucking dramatic about literally everything.
He got ill from his ecocidal effin meat diet. Hes not only starving himself of nutrients and antioxidants, but also maximising his risk of various cardiovascular diseases and cancers (like colorectal cancer)
He should be eating blue, blue has the most antioxygens.
@@Tester-sh1mn "antioxygens" lel
This; plus lifelong antidepressant use (not just SSRIs, but given his age also old school MAOIs and tricyclics and who knows what else), benzo addiction, and untreated schizophrenia (Mikhaila admitted that he was clinically diagnosed!). His brain is deep fried at the chemical and structural levels.
@@mx248 Wait, source on the schizo leak?
@@mx248he was clinically diagnosed with schizophrenia? Is there a source for that?
As a European it sometimes feels like, we are a big dysfunctional family and someboddy should call CPS, but at least we dont try to kill each other (that mutch) anymor.
Apparently Kermit is on the verge of losing his license due to his refusal to take a mandatory continuing education course.
Wait, so you *can't* cure depression with a meat only diet?!?!?
The reason he's on an all-meat diet is an immune disorder iirc. It has nothing to do with depression.
Nope, but you can with magic mushrooms!
Jordan Peterson's daughter needs an education
Sorry to inform you she failed hustler university.😅
@@johnnymematik8649 You know Jordy failed when his own girl hooked up with the most fatherless man of 2022.
I feel kinda bad for her tbh
Maybe she can start with Dr, Jordan B. Peterson's takes on women making use of make-up, fake eyelashes, exposing their skin, etc. in the workplace/marketplace.
She's a grifter using her dad's name
15:53 Terror Marx: _I've come to collectivize your soul untill there's Nothing _*_LEFT!_* 🧛🏻♀️
didn't jp literally go no-contact with all his patients the moment being a public figure became more profitable? the f does he want
He did them a favor tbh
I love the idea that professional regulatory associations are being infiltrated by government....Kermit the Frog's intellect obviously skipped his progeny.
Kermit the Frog has very little intellect to pass to any progeny, even in potentia. The daughter seems exactly as intelligent as I would expect her to be.
He's a psychologist, not a psychiatrist. The latter went to medical school and can prescribe medication. The former is a talk therapist.
@ElJay123 Say what. Um no. Modern medicine is a science. That's why there are blood tests, xrays, and cat scans.
@ElJay123 Your original reply state BOTH Psychology and Psychiatry are pseudo-science. Psychiatry is a real science. Psychiatrists graduate from medical school and them receive additional training.
@@hwhack I can't see the other replies (thanks RUclips) but if we're being technical, they are both legitimate sciences, but only one is also a medical practice as you said. Psychiatry is interesting though as it's, as far as I'm aware, pretty unique in being a blend of both social and natural sciences.
@ElJay123 your logical fallacy is called argument by example
Peterson can prescribe medicine to himself though
"This has caused my family a lot of stress. I think it's part of what contributed to him being ill in 2019" Uhh no, that was the Benzo's.
Victimhood: The Family
Honestly imagine being his patient...😅
I didn't realize how much chaos energy YT emojis have
why do i only see texts like ":eyes-wide:" and such, but not the actual emojis? is that an iphone thing?
@@heyy1829 oh these are new emojis, do you see the last regular emoji? But yeah could be an iphone software thing.
Jordan Peterson is the Harry Potter equivalent to gilderoy lockhart
I can't unsee it now. Thanks.
Wouldnt he be the real world equivilant to gilderoy lockhart? The harry potter equivilant to gilderoy lockhart is gilderoy lockhard. Jps harry potter equivalent would be gilderoy lockhart
@Meme Machine You're right. Should read "JP is the real life equivalent of Harry Potter's Gilderoy Lockhart."
I haven’t read HP in 15 years can you explain
@@MoonshineH Essentially, Gilderoy was a fraud
1:39 and you forcing him into a chemically induced coma didnt make him ill?
And did the benzo addiction have nothing to do with him being ill?
She also put him on some sort of meat only diet as well and gave him Covid 😂
NOT the Canadian government's decision. Licensing is a Provincial matter. The government of the province of Ontario is disciplining Peterson.
The Canadian Psychology Association IS NOT A BRANCH OF GOV. It’s a national organization insuring certain standards in psychology education are maintained.
She didn't say it was. She said it has been infiltrated by the gubmint
It's not a branch of government but it is a quasi-governmental agency. The Ontario government regulates professional organizations through certain acts of parliament and the governing board of professional colleges have government appointed "community representatives" to oversee college operations are for the interest of the public and not just the colleges.
I do actually kind of like jps suit but only because of the colour choice, cream and blue is a very nice retro look
"clean your room" *goes into coma while someone else cleans my room*
Why does he even care if he loses his license? He hasn't practiced in years.
Because it's the ONLY thing that allows the right wing to say "oh well he's a doctor in psychology he obviously knows about this" remember right wing dogma requires citing "academics"
It helps the grift
I’m sure really he preferred this exact scenario to happen. It’s just another thing for him to play the victim over.
I think in my country you loose your licesnse automatically if you don't practice for a while anyways. And it's not a big deal you can re apply with your degree (which he keeps) and a little "test" that you've kept up with developmemts in the fields which may have occured.
Licenses get revoked. Remember when Jack Thompson lost his legal license for essentially not shutting the fuck up about video games?
Took me a minute to realize the clip of young JP wasn’t the Jerry Seinfeld history teacher SNL bit. It’s the hair, I think.
My coworker looks to Peterson as some sort of father figure. He didn’t like this news so I reminded him that his father figure needs to practice medicine in order to keep his license. What job do you think he has? “He’s a psychologist”.
And that’s why he’s getting his license revoked.
Truly the most common of L's
As Vaush explains the term "cultural marxism," it bears emphasizing that Jordan Peterson was primarily responsible for popularizing the term among the not Nazi wing of the Right.
JP is soooo close to getting the Sapologie drip, colourful suits and remixes of old male fashions tyles. But his whiteness stops him from getting the maximum amount of drip
As a Canadian, I apologize for Peterson. The Canadian government isn't giving Peterson a hard time because of his critique of the government, it's the fact that Peterson is grifting and radicalizing vulnerable and stupid young men.
Irony. The clean your room guy got sick for being held accountable
Gentle reminder that in Italy two Italian cities once went at war with each other over a stolen bucket...
Just googled it. Jesus Christ 2000 people died over a bucket.
Wait, he likes that crime against taste of a suit? Okay, of all things this crosses the line! The Fashion SWAT is already on its way...
I dislike Jordan L. Lobsterton as much as anyone here but that suit is Drip
*IF YOU ARE A COMMERCIAL PILOT* and you get done for drunk driving - you lose your pilot's licence...
If you are a PROFESSIONAL and you engage in unprofessional behaviour - you tend to lose your accreditation - its as simple as that.
Oh dear, how dare the body that oversees professional conduct question Jordan "Jesus Christ" Peterson ?
0:01 Jordan Peterson turned into a Batman-villian so gradually I didn't even notice.
Petersons started his "Willie Wonka" Arc
Even when they're held accountable they aren't taking accountability
Any psychologist who says something like "your feelings are not real" as a rebuttal to transitioning is not a psychologist.
Has anyone seen Young Peterson in the same room as Jerry Seinfeld?
"Up yours woke scientists, we'll see who cancels who"
Wanting to revoke someone's credentials because they "antagonize their field" is a terrible take. The appropriate standard is major misconduct or ethical violations, which I suspect he's been accused of if he's telling the truth and he really is at risk of having his license revoked (that or he simply failed to renew something or fulfill continuing education requirements).
I did not expect to hear Carpenter Brut in a Vaush vid lol
What’s crazy to me is to see how most people are reacting to this. I was just in Joe Rogans comment section about Jordan and my god these people have to be living on another planet. More people have brain worms then you would think. The other day my coworker said he agrees with Peterson on some stuff when I was making fun of him and his Kermit voice. He appeals to the normies in droves. Also support for Andrew Tate is still insanely high. I’m worried for the future.
What did you expect from Joe Rogan fans?
I love the united shared ethnicity us asians have, I can take comfort in the fact that my brethren in Uzbekistan and my brethren in Indonesia look all look alike and just like me
Common Jordan Pererson L
Peterson should lose absolutely lose his license because he would have his wife sort through confidential patient info without the patient's consent and direct his recipients to send argumentative emails to professors he ideologically disagrees with on his behalf which is not only crazy unethical for a therapist but flat out evil.
Yeah I looked it up. There's articles from global news and national post. He refuses to take a course on social media ethics that he is being made to take because of multiple complaints about his unprofessionalism on twitter. Basically he's being a big baby, and not the good kind like Artemy.
The government of Canada wouldn’t revoke his license however the College of Registered Psychotherapists would have such authority.
oof oomfie JBP taking Ls after Ls especially with that Elon tie.
13:00 and so on: Yes, common tactic. Anyone opposed to a problem being solved, or whose religious metanarratives depend on the continuation of the problem, will accuse those of attempting to solve the problem of "going too far" and *causing* the reaction from their opposition.
It reduces to: "Don't make me hurt you for taking steps to prevent being harmed." Typical victim-blaming BS
This guys a licensed psychologist?! What!? He cries whenever the wind shifts, he’s the most emotionally inept person I’ve ever seen. 😂
If you have a little look into it his professor's actually hated him one of them called him testamount to psychopathy.
@@lonelyone69 you mean all his performance reviews from his own friend and mentor constantly calls him out for speaking from positions of authority on subjects he clearly has no functional knowledge of? And then from those same highly flawed, factually incorrect lectures, then drawing his own thin conjecture, and treating those conclusions like fact or some sort of universal truth??
That same mentor who, had to fight to get him a job as a prof in the first place cuz otherwise he wasn't viewed as fit for the gig? The same friend and mentor who some years back publicly released a letter apologizing to the world for ever given JBP any sort of clout which allowed him to rise to prominence and start spreading dangerous nonsense from a global platform?? Even his student reviews from his time as a prof were "mediocre" at best. And only AFTER he became famous for spouting reactionary talking points did those reviews start to change. And if you READ those reviews, there's nothing actually reflecting his expertise or knowledge. Just generic "He's changed my life with his book!".
So...yeah, he gets glowing, vague reviews from people who read his regurgitation of very basic and banal self help concepts dating back at least to "How to Win Friends and Influence People" in the 1930s. If not long before that. Hell, I remember even around 2008 as social media became more prominent, seeing any number of random "lists" being posted by no-names of "how to improve your life". All of which also just repeating old, generic stuff. Which can be helpful, yes, but... They're far from "brilliant" or "innovative" thoughts. And it's kinda concerning to see some of his followers insult themselves by thinking that his recital of old life tips is some revolutionary stroke of genius, and somehow smarter than they are.
The Canadian government has nothing to do with his licence. It’s a completely independent body. His daughter says, “appointed by the government” as if Trudeau himself gave them the job, which, like everything else the Petersons say or think, is complete bullshit.
Also, there are appointed members of the CPO, but they are all Conservative Party provincial appointees lol.
But it was because of that, he retweeted a tweet of a right winger, and then they called him to check if he is ok for doing that 🤣
@@V34035 If you go to the tweets as disclosed by Peterson in the Toronto Sun there were a shitload of tweets that got complaints. Peterson is focusing on the one where he called a politician a prick, and the covid denialism because those are defensible for the right. He's conveniently ignoring the one where he asked someone to commit suicide, and misgendered trans people, and called fat women ugly.
@@ifeeltiredsleepy And non of these give the right to go and take his license you can only take it when he doesn't do his job right, which he has, proven by millions of ppl thanking him, for helping them.
He didn't ask someone to commit suicide, even Vaush was like he has a point here. If you got a problem with the planet being overpopulated, which is not, then you can leave, tf do you want ppl to say. Cus I won't, your the one that cares, I don't.
Misgendering ppl has nothing to do with a license, this literally proves his point of you guys trying to force ppl to call you things.
And stop lying again, he didn't say she is ugly, he said being overweight is not beautiful cus it isn't.
None of these are things to take his license or prove anything, actually, these prove him right 🤣🤣
@@V34035 If you believe that what you have listened to/watched/read and, seemingly, swallowed whole, from the guy over the last 5/6 years was Jordan Peterson 'doing his job' as a *clinical psychologist* .... then I'd say you just prove that the CPO is absolutely right to be concerned.
It should have happened a long time ago. He makes incredibly unethical comments about his former female patients from his practice.
The government does not put people in charge of professions. They do enact laws that require there be licensing etc., but professions are self-governed. Licensing requirements and procedures are overseen by psychologists, elected by psychologists, and other people hired by the psychologists. The government is not involved. So of course, a Peterson is lying about what the government is doing.
JP uses dog whistles so that they don't strike down his channel and so he can still get on TV and yet this guy is like "Why doesn't he mention the Jews more?"
If I had the social media reach that JP has, and had engaged in a public bullying and bashing of a transgender individual, I would've had my license revoked immediately.
Vaush your take on this one was a big L. That suit is hideous and I'm dissapointed in you for thinking otherwise.
Vaush should definitely pick up a zoot suit though.
Kinda funny how the take responsibility for your life guy takes absolutely no responsibility for his own actions. Jordy is at risk of losing his license due to his own irresponsible actions, not due to some grand government conspiracy against him.
It's about time.
This sucks. I hate that people can literally be banned from teaching professional psychology and still have followers just because they're media figures. I hate online politics. I hate everything
Vaush when we Europeans say "European nationalism" we aren't talking about any nation of Europe, as you assumed the guy in chat to mean.
We are talking about the types of nationalism that individual countries in Europe have being similar to each other and having common differences from American nationalism.
I'm calling bs. I've never heard anyone in Europe say this my entire life.
@@Painocus Rarely yes.
The point was that Vaush misunderstood the guy in chat using the term "European Nationalism" as "nationalism towards Europe" when he was OBVIOUSLY talking about Norwegian nationalism, Italian nationalism, French nationalism, Swedish nationalism etc.
Whether what he was trying to say was a good point or not isn't relevant.
He wasn't saying what Vaush thought he was saying.
@@cyberneticbutterfly8506 Even if so, those are drastically different from each-other. Norwegian nationalism has largely been one of independence struggle against Danish colonialism, Swedish imperialism and German occupation. France was one of the great historical and colonial powers of Europe and it's nationalism has been framed throught that. Italy is young as a unified nation and it's nationalism has until recently at-least been about uniting the formerly separate Italian states under a constructed monolithic identity. These are all as different from eachother as any are from American nationalism, and as such there are no common European form of nationalism either.
@@Painocus Yeah, it's a commonly seen and oft-used technique on the far-right of trying to speak a truth into existence by just insisting that it is so. To project some kind of unity that isn't there in the slightest. They do the same thing with they refer to groups as monoliths and start going on about "whites," and every time I see it I'm thinking, "wtf are you talking about? I have more in common with an illegal immigrant from Mexico than I do with any of these dipshits and I would gladly take several million of those over a single Tucker Carlson."
@@Painocus I don't see current day Norwegian nationalism as even remembering any of the historical stuff apart from ww2.
Point is that the guy in chat wasn't talking about some nonexistent nationalism towards Europe as a whole.
This is not the government though he's trying to make it look like the Canadian government is oppressing him
We've graduated from lobsters to Musk heads
In health care, when you're in trouble and a serious allegation is before a board for review, one way to end the investigation is to voluntarily surrender your license to practice. This is what Jordan Peterson did when he was challenged on a variety of ethical issues related to his clinical behavior. Specifically, he was answering the phone and emailing people during a session, among other weird boundary violations. There was some flirtation, too.
Torturing my family 😂😂, dude if you go against the literature then you lose your liscense that’s the purpose of licensure is to have oversight
The Canadian Psychological Association, an independent body that issues licenses was organized in 1939 and incorporated under the Canada Corporations Act, Part II, in May 1950. The CPA received its Certificate of Continuance under the Canada Not-for-profit Corporations Act (NFP Act) in August 2013.
True, but to qualify as a regulated profession they have to acquiesce to certain government oversight, which includes a sizable portion of its board made up of political appointees. Though still the majority of the college is run by elected members.
Am I the only one now drawing parallels between peterson and Wakefield?
Edit: vaush and chat agree lol
6:22
Y'all almost gave me a panic attack from that beat; this was the last place I expected Carpenter Brut's "Turbo Killer" to start blasting out of nowhere
3:55 can we all stop and appreciate how Jordan Peterson essentially made the same argument as SCROOGE when people told him to care about poor people?
Hearing Turbo Killer in a Voosh vid was a surprise to be sure, but a welcome one!
These people are professional cry bullies
Wait, did she say colleges we in charge of massage therapists?
Pretty ironic for McKayla to be blaming license disputes for her dad’s illness when she’s the one who almost killed him with her freak meat diet. Kinda feels like a desperate blame shift more than a real point.
Vaush, I always enjoy you reviewing obscure nazi videos on RUclips. It's my favorite pasttime now.
So all the Petersons are extremely dramatic
Jordan Pee-terson
6:27 goofy ass tried using carpenter brut for his video
A positive boost to the long process of restoring my faith in the good of humanity.
Hang on now, this is a licensing board we're talking about. Let's not go too far.
@@rainbowkrampus faith can be defined as a belief in that which defies common sense.
Gotta appreciate how he used stratagem instead of just strategy to seem more intelligent.