Jordan Peterson Is Wrong About EVERYTHING (except this)
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Make a rule for yourself to never toss stuff onto the floor. The moment you start using the floor as clutterspace, it's over.
Save that for tables, tables are a lot easier to clean off.
You have less tablespace than floorspace in your room, so when it fills up entirely and you gotta clean up, there's a lot less to work on.
I struggle with keeping my room clean, but this sounds like generally good advice. I'll keep this in mind.
This is the way. Also, if you eat in your room, take dishes out when you leave. Like one or more each time until theres none left
Lifehack. ^^;
Obviously, people should make sure their room and life are organized and maintained. But Jordan Peterson takes it to the extreme, claiming that if your life is unorganized in the least degree, you shouldn't help others.
Thats completely wrong lmao
What he says is that helping yourself and getting your life in order is the best way to help your family, your community and broader society.
@@ah_helou2845no he definitely says both, I remember him ranting about how stupid it is that people who don't have everything together are protesting things
@@ah_helou2845 I was going to say what Noahmcgaffey797 was going to say. he 100% uses it in the context of "well if you cant manage your room then how could you manage to *insert any leftist political prescription" essentially any political view you hold can be hand waved away by you not having a "clean room" be that literally or metaphorically. its a logical fallacy, a retarded one too. yet here you are laughing your ass off instead of providing anything useful.
ironically there is a photo of him somewhere, his room is 10x worse than this Roblox streamer.
@@ah_helou2845 He never tells people to help "broader society." Lol
It's not "You shouldn't help others". It's you shouldn't ask for help, or question why things suck. Essentially, Jordan is gatekeeping societal criticism behind perfection in ones own affairs. "You don't have the right to complain if you haven't achieved perfection."
I've actually turned cleaning into a bit of a coping mechanism. It makes me feel better to not only have a cleaner area, but also I have accomplished something. When the dark thoughts come around it helps to remind myself that "Hey, I did somethint, its not all bad."
It might sound corny but it helps me
Not corny at all, this is a great way to think and it's helped me a lot
If it helps even in the slightest then that's a good thing and should be encouraged
Dude same I’m real lit bad at room cleaning but I try and keep my desk clean (or as clean as I can at that time) cause having one area that’s stable helps me not fall down too far
I think you are still giving Jordan Peterson too much credit. Whenever I heard him talk about cleaning your room, he continued talking about how that also meant you need to completely have yourself figured out before you should work on anything else, like making the world better. And that was immediately followed by disparaging the wokes who clearly didn't clean their room before protesting for something as stupid as gender equality.
He’s not giving him credit for it. It’s just a bit because Jordan Peterson is known as the « clean your room » type beat mfer
That's the point. Peterson's few crumbs of good advice lead directly into the bad advice, making it seem less bad.
Honestly, while he’s making the statement from a disparaging standpoint I do think people should focus on themselves before devoting too much of their time/effort to a cause; self sufficient/stable people are far more useful practically speaking and from an optics perspective. They’re also far less likely to have their well-meaning tendencies and/or desire for something “larger than themselves” taken advantage of if they’ve got their shit together.
Lol I left basically the same comment before I read yours
@@mrgaudy1954yes but if everyone followed that advice it would have the effect of cutting the poor out of political activism completely
very accurate, to live in filth is mentally taxing because you have to constantly suppress that part of your mind saying 'this is disgusting', and it's real work
"i don't think i am the cause of the roach infestation"
He has food all over the place. Of course he's the cause
I mean... we cant see the rest of the house in the video. It could be really bad
"I don't think I'm the cause of this infestation."
*proceeds to show several containers of food out in the open*
Raising my 3 kids, we didn’t address “mess” because it’s the wrong approach. We addressed “filth” (food, mold, old drinks, dirty sheets, etc), and “clutter” ( toys, clothes, papers, games, all over and not put away or cared for). We are zero tolerance on filth, pretty loose about clutter although we nag, stay on top of it with them, keep preaching to take care of their things so they last, etc. Saved a lot of unnecessary conflict, and trained them to be clean over orderly.
Yep. Biohazard is unacceptable
@@ranbummerz729 omg, I never went to that phrase, dammit! I needed you 15 years ago.
Seeing vaush without his glasses makes me understand how superman was able to disguise himself.
towards the end of the vid when vaush says dirty rooms are a big energy draining environment, i remembered a very relevant example of this affecting my life.
my last set of room mates were pretty bad at cleaning up after themselves in our kitchen, and this meant the dishes were never done and the counters/stove was always dirty. this made learning to cook as a young adult SO difficult. I would have an hour of cleaning other people’s messes to do before i could even begin cooking, and I would then have to clean my own mess up. That paired with living less than a 3 minute walk away from a taco bell meant my ass NEVER made food for myself at home.
now that i live with a much tidier room mate, our kitchen is almost always ready to use, and it has made it so much easier to eat healthier and cheaper. I’m close to being fully vegan and have learned how fun cooking is thanks to having a well taken care of kitchen
Going through this exact dilemma right now.
Holy fuck is it frustrating to watch dishes sit for way longer than they should, finally just buckling down for a whole Saturday and doing all of them, only for the pile to reappear 4 days later cause your opportunistic roommates used them all, and cleaning them is inevitably left to you once again.
Sometimes I’ll clean them up and barely get a chance to use many before they all get used. I mean, last time I sorta kinda yelled at one of them unprovoked so I guess we will see if that helps 😅
@@nomadsland8322I would be so unbelievably mad that I would leave their dirty dishes right infront of their door or on their bed cause f*ck them. You did nothing wrong.
0:23 as a trans woman I kinda relate to this, often if I want advice about my own transistion my options are people who will always support whatever I decide no matter what, which isn't good for advice, or people who want me dead
as an autistic trans woman I sorta just got special interests in hormones and transition surgery, spending like a bajillion hours researching each because it's important to me lol. I think that trans care is often opaque enough and often out of date that every trans woman at this point in time should know basics about it like what hormone levels they want, whether they want to go on monotherapy, and which route of administration they prefer. Because it's so common that someone posts online 'hey, HRT hasn't done much for me' and when asked they're underdosed on their antiandrogen or estrogen.
@@ataready8810 oh I know the science, I meant more personal advice, about what's right for me
My GF watches along with me, and became a fan on her own. When I saw this in the stream, I hoped that it would become a segment. She really needs to watch this with regard to working with her ADHD. She's nowhere near this, and there are no roaches or filth [just clutter], but there is work to be done. Thanks for this!!
Clutter is relatively fine in comparison to lint and roaches which is objectively unhealthy
I absolutely deplore self help gurus like JP, but there is some truth to cleaning your room. Having a clean room makes me not want to waste my time endlessly watching RUclips and overall improves my mental health as opposed to seeing random sh*t scattered around
Is she on meds? I have girl adhd and was an absolute pig before taking dex. Now I’m a neatness nut. But I can only stay on track if I’m solely responsible for cleaning - ie I make 90% of the mess and do 100% of the cleaning. Partner cooks, when I have one.
@@tethergobrrrI'm sorry but what, "girl ADHD"? Is that not as insane as "man-flu"?
Same but with my little sister. Our mom is so tired of trying to clean her room in between all the stuff she piles up (she even leaves wrappings and stuff inside her drawers, instead of throwing them out). She is pretty young though, I'm sure she'll get better as she grows up.
I can't stress enough how much getting some guinea pigs and taking care of them was like a secret elixir that motivated me on the path of self improvement. The routine involved in keeping these cuties happy and healthy has been the bedrock that I built from to learn discipline and get control of a lot of things. From there, I developed a work routine that I could stick to, and a workout routine as well.
Three years later, I've lost 70 pounds (now 160), started to build actual muscle mass, I walk 10k steps each day, and can regularly motivate myself to finish tasks and actually get things done. I feel I've really transformed my life for the better, hugely.
And while I feel much better about myself now than I used to, still, the best thing about all this for me is seeing my three happy, healthy, adorable guinea pigs. Every day, at 2pm, they yell at me for food, and get all excited and happy while I clean their home and get their veggies ready, and every day it makes me so happy to see them excited.
hell yeah
I’ve recently adopted a feral cat that had a kitten, and have a few more feral cats outside I take care of daily. Helps a lot with my depression, anxiety, and other issues. Giving care does wonders for people, much ❤ to your GPs 😊
I dont really do that because i dont believe rodents/lagomorphs (etc) kept in captivity are actually happy. Mainly because 99% of people keep their pets in inadequate conditions;
Enclosure way too small, bedding too shallow, so on and on.
Taking personal responsibility for something beyond your own wellbeing -- such as the life of an animal -- gives you a sense of purpose and improves motivation.
Now, I do understand that using the phrase "taking personal responsibility" is probably going to get some other lefties here to raise an eyebrow in suspicion due to its common usage in right-wing political rhetoric, especially as a euphemism for cutting taxes and welfare spending, but I think it's a phrase the left needs to use far more often. I actually think it's a massive own goal on the broader left's part that it's seemingly abandoned such language in favour of hyperfocusing on systemic issues, as it's a fairly powerful rhetorical tool that conservative politicians and pundits are currently using with impunity, and to depressingly great effect.
@@lil_weasel219 I do my best. I have a about 44sqft enclosure with room to run that I made for them. I hand sewed a thick fleece bedding that is cleaned daily, six large hides, and blankets for them to bury themselves in. They get daily free roam time in my room that I've made guinea-pig safe, and added tunnels and other hides for them to run and play in. I track their health closely and get them into the vet for checkups. I work hard to keep the routine regular without too many disruptions that would alarm them.
This made me want to clean my depression room, so I listened to this while I did. I have been going through a lot lately, and it genuinely made a huge difference. Vaush good :)
Yeah, I too have a depression mess. It ain't good. I think I'm gonna start doing something about it, incrementally at least. I don't *want* to be like this.
I do junk removal and the people who live like this are usually disabled physically or mentally, old, emotionally attached to each item somehow or a combination of all.
Another issue is that they're sometimes desensitized to the mess. I've had clients offer food to us and seem genuinely confused when we politely refuse while we're surrounded by trash bugs and other badbadnotgood things. You can see it when the guy believes the chair is now clean and his room looks good enough.
I went and showed a very good social worker this part of the live-stream VOD and they couldn't make it past half the video because of the roller-coaster of solid-to-questionable advice 😂. A small part of it had to do with rhetoric but they would literally pause, make an appreciative comment, only to pause again 10 seconds later with markedly equal amounts of disappointment and criticism. Hopefully we can get through the rest of the video later because filtering it through the discourse of a licensed social worker was very thought-provoking. I can try to bullet-point their comments here later.
Plz post the comments
I’m curious what their response is too
Im an author on psychology. This is every professional's reaction to Peterson. He uses the 2 truths and a lie technique. tells you2 bits of axiomatically good info, like clean your room eat healthy, and then adds a lie like trans people eat babies.
The two truths have got your brain accepting him as a credible source of information and the human brain works in triplets, so its expecting ANOTHER truth.
He is using psychology unprofessionally to manipulate his audience.
Yes please! Curious to know what they said
Yeah I'll definitely update when we get to it lads
"I don't think the roach infestation is caused by me"
Literally has mummified food just lying around everywhere
Vaush explaining why his cats with weird names are a blessing and help him wake up in the morning is really wholesome
Jordan Peterson… right about something? No… no this can’t be...
broken clocks, and all that.
@@xerxeskingofking The broken clock does better, at being correct 2x per day.
@@DrumWild Jordan Peterson's on military time.
No Jordan Peterson isn't right about this. Vaush just doesn't understand what Peterson means when he says clean your room. He's taking it too literally and simplistically and not in it's full context
What do you mean by “about” & “something” & “no” & “this” & “can’t” & “be”? No one even knows what these words mean.
Petting cats is good advice too.
Like I'm not the cleanest person in the world, but how in the ever loving fuck do you sleep and game in a room you KNOW is INFESTED with roaches without doing something about it?!
Invasive species are a bitch to handle sometimes. And the guy did have bug traps, though I get where you're coming from
It's so hard. It's so fucking hard. I have a graduate degree and a high paying job. I'm in good physical shape and have friends. I'm functional. And I still haven't figured out how to not use my hamper to store clean clothes and the floor to store dirty clothes. No food growing mold in my room, but definitely in the sink and fridge ):
Yeah Vaush, you convinced me to clean my room (mostly clothes). I cannot live in conditions like that, but depression can be a nasty bitch. Your content actually helps me body double while I get things done on the regular, and allows me to keep learning as the content you cover is often in an informative and entertaining way
Good job! Keep it up, proud of you. Don't be too hard on yourself - sometimes you won't be able to finish everything you planned or it won't be good enough compared to how you envisioned it but just keep on trying. It gets better. If you feel overwhelmed, make sure to reach out for help. You are not alone.
@@viCoN24 In all fairness, my room wasnt as bad as that streamers just some clothes and a few pop cans but still. Thanks though, the kind words are refreshing
For me it was showers at my most extreme. I just couldn’t drag myself to do it. But I would feel so much better after and would say “pre shower me needs to remember how post shower me feels”
And eventually I got hooked on post shower feeling and it helped me break that behavior
I have ADHD and pretty severe executive dysfunction but this really motivated me
Vaush is very correct here! Connecting habits is very useful for executive disfunction, as someone else with adhd. The mountain of doing whatever task you've built up is sometimes too mentally big to climb with willpower alone, so I think of it as like, almost tricking myself into getting a task done.
I have pretty severe ADHD and being aware of the weight on your mind that Vaush mentions, the one that stays there and only gets stronger the longer you go trying to avoid the task was fundamental for me to slowly begin to change that.
That weight made me so miserable that I just realised that suffering by pushing myself to do the task I'm trying to avoid is preferrable to the one that comes from anguishing over not doing it. If I want to suffer less in general have to suffer more NOW, but it also gets easier the more you manage to automatize that process, so it's also the most logical way to reduce suffering. Doesn't always work but I've been making tangible progress throughout the last couple of years.
Honestly keeping organized is my main issue. I can clean easily, but when everything is cluttered or messy it’s like there’s a traffic jam in my brain between my cleaning skills and the ability to plan stuff. I’m just not sure how to keep things from getting that way or how to get out of it alone.
I paused in the middle of this and cleaned my whole room. Been putting that off for a while, it looked like a tornado hit a craft supply store. Art supplies everywhere and now it’s all clean! Thanks
I think it's very telling that for what Kermit gets right is one of the most basic life advice for people with mental issues.
My father was a devoted fan of Jordan Peterson, before he died. This is upsetting to me in many ways, but I at least have one memory that keeps me amused; Evidence of the way his thinking changed, because he listened to this charlatan who gave good advice like "Clean your room," to make the rest of his bullshit more palatable. He was hard to talk to in his last days because of this, but that's another therapy session
Sitting on my parents' back deck with my with them, my cousin Sarah, and my Uncle Paul. My dad decides to tell a funny story about an argument he and my mother had while traveling in their fifth-wheel trailer. They were trying to figure out an electrical issue, shouting to each other from different parts of the camper. My father yelling "Turn the kill switch off." My mother replies "It's off." My father answers "I know it's not off, I can still see the lights on."
They'd been in this debate ever since. My mother said turning on the kill switch meant the power would turn off. My father said when the kill switch is off, it means the power's off. My cousin and I supported my mother's point, and my Uncle Paul agreed with my father. My father goes into this diatribe about "See, it's not that anyone's wrong, it's just that men and women are different, and we see things differently. It's okay that you think the kill switch being on means the power is off, because you're women, and we're just innately different," etc. etc. He opined on this at length, and we just sat there and let him. He was dying at that point, so I know at least my mother and I tried not to escalate anything needlessly
Anyway, my cousin's husband joins us outside, because he'd been fixing something for my parents inside. He's very handy and knowledgeable, working at a repair support hotline, and being into automotive and household repairs. My dad asks him the question, expecting his support. My cousin's husband supported our stance instead. There was some pushback from my dad, which resulted in him receiving a lesson, complete with mimed explanation about how when the kill switch is engaged, the circuit is broken, and the power goes off. The look on my dad's face was priceless. I suppose this story wouldn't be as funny to anyone that didn't know my dad, and knew how much he loathed being proven incorrect, but I felt like sharing.
Honestly...trying to argue how being incorrect (in his mind) wasn't our fault, because we are women and therefore think less logically. This man raised me so much better than that...He taught me how to throw a football and do basic repair, how to be independent, only to have his mind turned to mush by this insane, faux intellectual.
I'm both sorry to hear that happened to him and find it funny to see his poor way of thinking be justified by his sexism.
When Jordan Peterson started hitting the scene I got caught up with how intelligent he sounded and even bought his book. Eventually I got out of it because of people breaking down his meaningless word salad. I regret ever financially supported a person like that by buying their book and giving them my time. I hope more people like your dad do eventually get out of it before their brain turn into mush.
Sometimes I feel bad about my room being cluttered, but then I see a disgusting nest of a room online and feel better.
@alexnayebi1974 No.
I've had Covid since Tuesday and my mom complained that my room. So today, once I felt better (Although I can't feel heat for some reason in my body) I overhauled my room and even cleaned the bathroom and living room
It feels good having a clean house
after you recover have your dr check over your circulatory stuff just in case.
if there is something wrong its ususally self resolving or fairly easilly treatable so its not worth worrying but it is worth checking
this is one of the funnier side effects I got from my old work actually, I used to be terrible at keeping clean until I started there. I worked in elder care at a place that was essentially a bunch of apartments for elderly people to live in, and my job was going to their place to help them with daily chores. it meant that I spent my entire shifts helping people do the dishes, bringing out the trash, making the bed, etc. among other things. It really helped instill a sort of routine in me, so now whenever I've used the kitchen I automatically wash up and clean the counters, as that was something I did 30x over every shift anyway so I learnt how little effort it took.
also living in a student corridor really helps, because I may leave clutter around in my own room but since I share a kitchen with strangers I feel morally obligated to clean up after every meal I make. when I had my own kitchen I could leave dishes for days bc I was the only one responsible for them but now when others also need to use the space I'm way more conscientious about the messes I make.
Having adhd isn’t just the wall in front of getting started but the myriad walls that erect themselves along the way after starting. Everything takes longer, there are countless reasons to pause and consider or evaluate if this is the best way to do the thing or what this thing means in the context of whatever else is on your mind. And just knowing how long minor things take you makes the wall in front of getting started even bigger. It’s way too easy to downplay how easy something is if you’d only just get started. Don’t get me started on how easy that is.
Honestly for me working in a restaurant taught me what a lot of cleaning really was so when I realize just how simple cleaning my own room really was because I learned how to properly clean and approach the task with a strategy it was much easier.
Thanks for the Vidya vorsh, my room isn't that messy but I'm gonna go clean it
11:30 I do the same thing when I have to clean the bathroom. Sorting the cleaning bucket also helps, nobody else ever arranges the contents sensibly.
the thing you said at 11:20 i do that big time... i connect cleaning to streaming... i clean befopre i stream so if i use my facecam (which i dont really anymore but i always THINK i will... my room would look nice so i always clean up the lil mess thats there before it... that way it always stays tip top cus i stream several times a week
This is what my room looked like until I was diagnosed and medicated for ADHD.
Cleaned my room while listening to this video and time it took was exactly the length of the video haha
I'll never understand how some people will have messy rooms with *FOOD* LYING AROUND, LIKE HUH???
Executive dysfunction is hell. These days, I mostly get it over specific household chores that can be put off without much immediate consequences like dusting and scrubbing my bathroom. Those tasks arent much harder than basic tidying up like doing dishes or laundry but I have a much harder time getting started on those slightly more demanding tasks. I think part of the issue is that something like cleaning a bathroom takes more than just wiping stuff down and another part of the issue is that it's not just my mess, it's also my partner's. Even though I know I could dust, sweep, vacuum, and scrub my whole apartment in like 2-3 hours max with some music on, I can't bring myself to get started most days.
I just can't comprehend the idea of letting my room get this messed up.
Avoiding eating in your room or if you do never leave dishes in there is best. My room is messy but it's mainly a lot of paper and clothes that get left on the floor.
Rooms like these, for me, just scream untreated ADHD. After I started taking stimulants, cleaning my room became so, so much easier, I keep it clean almost out of habit now. Super messy rooms are telltale sign of ADHD, as it makes larger, overarching goals with no immediate benefit extremely difficult.
You've convinced me to clean my room: good job, your ontological evaluations are getting better and better ngl
Perfect video to pick up my room to. I feel the exact same way Vaush does, a dirty room weighs me down. I used to have extremely clean room, but ever since living with my husband that's more than double the stuff to take care of. Because most of it is his. We're both disabled and it gets so frustrating. I took the chance to clean up the past of the room that was frustrating me the most during this video and it helped
Jordan Peterson being right about cleaning your room is like Dr. Phil being right about Bhad Bhabie being an attention seeker.
@alexnayebi1974 Jordan Peterson fans get so pissed about furries existing. I find it hilarious.
@alexnayebi1974 do you cry like a bitch whenever you hear Paula Cole’s “Where Have All the Cowboys Gone”?
Cleanin room with Vaush in the background
Torch that room
If I have things to do I write a list just so I can check the chores off done. It can be big or small things or big things broken down in steps
Hey Vaush, your video was spot-on, especially about convincing the brain it's worth it and the role of routines in building life structure. Thanks for the insights! 👍❤
My room just has mail everywhere. I'm so glad I dont leave food out.
I struggle with a chronic health problem that gives me fatigue, and to be honest while I do have a lot of the issues here in regards to not cleaning my room, not keeping up with chores etc., getting into a state where it's easy to do that and keep up with it takes so much energy to get to and then to maintain that it's not worth it until said fatigue improves. My fatigue is bad enough that even on my best mental days I couldn't do anything more than go to school and come home, any amount of chores or participating in a hobby afterwards would be too much energy as I'd already be exhausted. Like, I'll feel tiredness at the beginning of doing a chore, and I'll feel it every step after that. That's why I'm only occasionally able to fully clean my place and all the dishes, and although it feels terrible I usually leave the dishes around.
It feels good to clean up, it feels good to cook for myself, it feels good to have a clean desk. Unfortunately fatigue makes everything I do difficult so distracting myself online is like the main way to cope lol. That, and organising times to hang out with friends so I can have a social life that exists. To anybody else who is in a similar situation where they can't/it takes too much energy to clean up as often as you'd like - it's not the worst. Keep on top of what you can (clean clothes, at least 1 set of clean dishes for your next meal, floor free of garbage for example), and do your best to recover if at all possible. Directing energy away from room maintenance to self maintenance is also important. My fatigue is likely caused by some form of sleep disordered breathing so there might be a permanent solution in my future (bipap/surgery).
Sorry Vaush, I will be less dysfunctional in the future to make the average viewer more based
i feel this. i have narcolepsy and it's difficult to do anything outside of work, even on my days off. just. recovering physically takes so long
One thing that really helps me and my executive dysfunction, are the two whiteboards I bought from Target for less than $20 that I stuck to my bedroom door (so I see it every day). One whiteboard is a weekly calendar, and the other is for bigger projects, daily lists, and to stick my magnetic markers to. Every Sunday, at 5:00 PM, my phone goes off to let me know to fill that week's calendar. As I'm setting up my weekly calendar on my whiteboard, I'm also throwing stuff into my phone calendar. Every time I get something done, I get to cross that shit out and it feels awesome, because it says to me "Yay! I did something today."
At the end of each week, if I get everything done by the weekend, I'll reward myself with a $20 meal from a favorite restaurant, or a fishing trip, or something else along those lines. That incentive to do something fun/nice for myself really helps to spur me on throughout my week. Plus, with a strict bedtime/morning routine, I eventually train my body to wake up and go to sleep at reasonable times, instead of laying in bed for hours every night enduring an existential crisis, then waking up a the buttcrack of noon-thirty.
A lot of it is about distractions for me.
I can absolutely clean when I have my attention on doing that but the moment my attention is on a video or a steam game 4 hours are lost in a heartbeat.
I found the (genuinely good tip) of cleaning top to bottom was making me procrastinate cleaning. I need to start with the floor to not get bogged down by small clutter spaces and surfaces. Once the floor is free and clean, I can adress the unfolded/dirty laundry or literally anything else.
i hear what he's saying but with ADHD just starting the first part of the process is so difficult already, whether its cleaning or taking care of a pet or plant or something, they'd probably just starve and get neglected, so i've been afraid to get pets
He said I don't think it's me LMAO
11:11 I find this makes my executive dysfunction worse. If I have two things to do that I feel are linked, it combines the overwhelming parts of them together. Now I won't do either. De-linking is what helps me.
Use sunk cost fallacy to your advantage too. Once you've taken the first step (which you should aim to make as simple as possible), make it so that returning to that state of executive dysfunction feels unnatural. Set a VERY basic and specific condition: "once I count to 3" "once I finish this paragraph"
"I finished reading this paragraph so I may as well bookmark the book"
"I bookmarked the book so I may as well put it down"
"I put the book down so I may as well get up"
"I got up so I may as well open my textbook"
"I opened my textbook so I may as well complete the homework"
At any point along that chain, it can start to feel natural. At that point, I stop consciously airing each step and THEN I can "just do it"
As someone who just finished cleaning their own room (we recently moved and have boxes of shit everywhere) I feel a lot better just in general.
Beard man said to clean my room. I shall now do this.
it helps extremly to have a simple trashbin in every room you frequently use.
LIstening to Vaush while I do chores right now
"I don't think the roach infestation is because of anything I've done."
Bro, your room is full of half empty rotting food containers, it's a roach paradise.
The thing about having a pet is honestly true our cats and the maintenance forces me to have a schedule and get up but it also gives me something else living to feel just another presence, it may not be a human person but it’s comforting and very helpful
I cleaned my room up in about 1/2 the run time of this video, even vacuumed.
What a coincidence that I was listening to this video WHILE cleaning my room.
I'm cleaning my room while listening to this, congrats you conviced me real quick with that roblox guy😂😂😂
Yes! I've been so depressed that pissing would be an insurmountable task. I'm better now, so I try to take baby steps because if I get into a manic state, I will fix everything, crash, and collapse later, and have a bad association with those chores. Great advice, V!
I remember that I was *literally* sitting at the dinner table in front of my elementary school homework for 2-3hours a day not wanting to do it...
my parents drilled it into my head to never eat in my bedroom and I'm so glad they did. This guy's room is disgusting
I have severe ADHD and i share a room with one other person, and the room is currently a disaster. I deep cleaned it recently, but it gets dirty so fast and it genuinely just wears me out having to deep clean my room once evey other day. I have old, broken laptops laying all over my desk, cords tangled up everywhere, dust all over my desk, a pile of dirty laundry on my floor, a closet thats so full i cant even get in there to clean it out (other person in my room owns the closet and they refuse to clean it)
I guess my issue is motivation. I clean my room only for it to be disgusting as hell the next day, so i have to deep clean it again, which for whatever reason just really demotivates me
Lol I'm in my 30s now, I've graduated from growing up in a hoarder house and not knowing how to do any chores to spending my savings tearing my bedroom walls down and installing new insulation and drywall with my dad.
To hell with the Bagel. I'm just gonna imagine you put that 5 hour energy on the plate.
I cleaned my dorm room today and it feels great
My issue with cleaning my place is I never know where to start... or where to put anything. Counter space = storage space
Just move 1 thing. Anything. Set an alarm and move 1 thing an hour every day.
I pay someone to clean my apartment and I'm not even ashamed of saying it (the person comes every 15 days and in between I try to keep it half way decent). I like having a clean home, but I suck at doing it myself.
I have been doing the "make your bed" for a week now. This has been helpful.I have not laid back down?and as a consequence, things my life has become more organized.Going to bed earlier had been made easier,knowing I have a tight crisp bed to retire to.
I feel like the next step is, make your bad after a few hours (but dont go back into it, of course!). Theres a bit of a risk of moldy mattress if you close up your bed while its still moist from sleep. Better to open the window, open the sheets, and close the door to that room for a few hours.
@TheMageesa Removing ones pajamas,booties,nightcap and only then,after showering returning to a sunlight filled room, turning off the de-humidifier,aircleaner and ultraviolet lights,should the bed linens be inspected for (service ability) and spot cleaned, then changing the pillow cases.Frequent laundering in hot water with bleach additive and an anti-microbial fabric softener,followed by a "steam sanitary cycle" in the dryer,followed by line drying in the sun,untll (slightly damp) then a final (high temperature) drying cycle in machine until throughly dried.Commiting to living a clean lifestyle and (reaffirming) any vows of celibacy.(no swapping of bodily fluids and Frequent showering before and after slumber is also a good hygiene practice. Laundering bed linens 3 times a week is key.
"My room is clean. Check with Vermin."
I am so bad at doing things that arent forced on me (at work etc), for no good reason. Im not depressed, but i do have some weird mental motivational blocks
One of the other problems I think people have is feeling like whatever task they need to do has to be 100%ed right away, and honestly, it doesn't have to be. Maybe you take out all the empty cans one day, maybe another day you put dishes, maybe the next you gather up all the dirty clothes ect. 1% is always better than 0%.
Some people hardly see the problem with the mess. I tried to coach a fellow student in my house. Nice guy. But the smell. Invest 30 seconds every day in cleaning up. Throw trash away. Get ten rolls of bags. Facilitated. It's difficult.
One day he said: I'm inviting a woman tonight. I'm like: here? He's like: yes. 15 minutes later all occupants of the house were helping him disinfecting the place. Delivered a clean room and fresh start. But it stays difficult.
I have a problem with stuff like this. My sleep schedule is pristine in the other hand. I usually don’t even need an alarm. I will just wake up when I need to
Thank god the worst my room gets is using my floor as a clothes hamper and putting too much stuff on my desk instead of in a drawer.
My room is messy, but it's not gross, more just cords laying about and some plastic bags, I should vacuum more often, but overall my room isn't terrible, I wash my dishes daily usually, I try to keep my house in order, but sometimes it sucks
something that helps me alot is negotiating down to the smallest task i CAN handle, even on my worst rot in bed days i can take 1 (one) dish to the sink, and once you've done that task you can take a fat W for getting something done, and that dopamine can help you feel good enough to grab another 2, 4, 6 dishes before you lie back down, i usually cant get everything in one burst of function, but clearing even half the dishes is a nice little bonus to your mindstate
My mom may get mad at me for leaving like two empty water bottles in my room but at least I’m not letting literal food rot in their
I was a hoarder, but in an out of sight out of mind kinda way. I found that having a full size garbage can within view when sitting in my room helps keeps the awareness of the fact I should clean up in my mind.
Also, blue tooth is the way to go. I got a long range blue tooth transmitter for my computer, and I can walk through my entire house listening to whatever I want. That makes doing chores easier.
"Ita better to do a thing, than live with the fear of it"
I spent 10 hours yesterday boiling in the heat. 😂
In the book "Tuck Everlasting" it talks about how the Tuck family was messy because they were creative and working on things constantly. There's nothing wrong with that. OCD is treatable. And second, your space has bugs because it's not sealed properly. You need to hire a company to come through and close all the gaps that bugs can get in through. Yes they are attracted to the food. But if they can't get in, you can have food lying around for weeks and not have bugs. However, there is a difference between messy and disgusting. Get a large garbage can if you hate dealing with dumb little bags. Throw your trash in the trash. Put your dishes in the kitchen. Use your dishwasher.
My house kept getting spiders and crickets coming in after about 10 years of owning it and it cost around $500 to have a company come and reseal it properly. Zero bugs after that. They're more attracted to your air conditioning than your food.
how the hell do you even get it that bad? the worst my room ever gets is an overflowing trashcan and 3-4 plates sitting on the table in my room
Thanks for the cockroaches trigger warning, I literally have quite extreme phobia of them & even just seeing them in my phone's screen triggers it (especially if there has been no warning & it's unexpected).
How vaush described getting over the barrier to accomplishing tasks, that's exactly how I manage to get anything done.
I didn't even realize it was a technique until he described it. But yeah, whenever I do actually accomplish things it's because I framed things in the way he described.
Its true! Learning to listen to my youtube videos while doing chores is how I was able to do my chores! The chores dont get done until I've connected the thing I want to do to the thing I dont want! Dont like doing dishes? But you wanna listen to this podcast. And you CAN ONLY LISTEN TO IT IF THE DISHES ARE DONE OR WHILE YOU ARE DOING THEM. Tricks my brain every time. Learn to like the things you dont want to do, or find ways to enjoy it anyway. And them, when its done, I am am happier with myself rather than hating myself for barely functioning.
So I moved towards minimalism because i dont like cleaning up more than a love for the aesthetic
After a while it also made me averse to clutter just out of habit
I can recommend it overall - everyone that comes to my apartment thinks its really clean when i only really have to do a light dust and sweep every week or so and do the counter tops, bath tub & toilet etc. Never getting carpets again, hardwood floors way easier to maintain and you can just get rugs that are easier to wash
When I was younger and my executive function was a lot worse i learned to be able to literally Pick Shit Up Off The Table (and take it to the trash can across the room), by starting by Aggressively Batting It Onto The Floor. That's a much simpler task and breaks the sort of brain inertia? and then once I was moving I could get up and finish the task
This video motivated me to finally clean my entire bathroom and organize my desk :)
BASED.
routines go incredibly hard