I have the ead10. You can record with pots and pans and still sounds good. I use it for my suitcase kit and sounds much bigger than without the features.
Without spending the money, I assume the single stereo drum track from the ead just wouldn’t sit in the mix to my liking due to being just too standalone/out of place since you cant dig into individual pieces of the kit to compress/eq or add a touch of reverb used elsewhere in other tracks of the song on the overheads etc
At home I use the Yamaha EAD10 coz you don’t need an interface and computer you just need the EAD10 and your phone so I think it’s great for what it is.
I thought the ead10 sounded really good especially for the price. I’ve know some who actually take their EAD10 recordings and run it through another music editor like Audacity or Reaper. I really didn’t hear much of a difference with using the additional triggers on each drum. I’ve been considering buying one for quite some time. Your studio mics definitely sounded better than the cheaper drum mics. I would like to learn more regarding the ead10.
I totally agree that the additional triggers on the ead10 didn't make a noticeable difference. Did you end up getting the ead10? If so, are you happy with it?
Great video! Even with cheaper direct mics, I've found that you can usually get a nice sound with some corrective EQing, but the condensers are where more of the differences show up. I made a video comparing budget vs. pro mics a while ago with similar findings, but the EAD wasn't out yet. Nice to see how it stacks up!
I put my rack tom a littl further left near my hi hat and the audio it picked up was a little less present it will be quieter obviously because it’s further from the mic. Cymbals should be fine tho but anything bigger than a 5pc kit you will just have to hit hard i guess. Ead is worth the price tho its great
is there anything you can do to upgrade cymbal sounds using a EAD10? for me, that was the biggest difference. the triggers with the EAD sounded great cymbals were still lacking definition
Great Review and really helpful :) I was considering getting an EAD10 but all in all, it will be better for me to stock up on mics and probably get an old Laptop just for recording!
Where I agree is the studio mic setup was the best for sure I used the Aston origin on miking a drink it before but I only used one and I had it placed on my kick drum. Absolutely magic on a kick drum had sm57 top of snare an audix on the bottom. Two Blue Hummingbirds as overheads and this was the best mic setup I've found to work for.me.
I needed this video, thanks for taking the time to put it together!! From the playing and sound perspective, what affect did having triggers on the drums have? Is it worth the investment for them?
I rented & tested the EAD10, it works great and sets up quickly. To me a great setup for live performances. Quality & speed of setup is really important for live performances. Great demo guys. 👍
There’s also a studio setting on it as well. Really cool unit!!! Works great live for small venues. No need for miking the kit! Just slap that puppy in there and you’re good to go!
The Yamahas have nothing. They sound like an I-phone, compressed, distorted and harmonically poor. could see how that would be attractive for contemporary pop music but I would never go there. The T-Bone's have 100x more spectrum. The expensive set at the end is slightly better for the cymbals - more nuance and truth, less stick and more cymbal. The drums sound the same except the kick is better with the cheap kit, though that could be fixed in the mix.
They all sound great in their own way. The only thing I really noticed, is that the crash cymbal sounds less explosive on the EAD10. Probably because it is far from the mic or partially blocked by the tom.
EAD10 only for smaller venues up to about 100 people, cheaper microphones than these cheapest ones I think are hard to find but they do the job for the money, furthermore, studio microphones can be very different from stage microphones, it depends how deep you go into the matter of sound. in practice, it is an unwritten rule that the more expensive hourly rate in the studio is usually equipped with more expensive microphones as well as other equipment. for live performances, a set of microphones such as AKG session 1 or SHURE pga is quite sufficient....by the way..SONTRONICS I find very good for live and studio
So the bass drum sounds pretty much the same with the t.bone and the shure mic. I really like the t.bone tom mics but the overheads and the snare are missing some highs. I'm shure this can be all fixed with some good EQing tho. Thanks for the video ^^ Since I'm always broke I needed to know wheter the t.bone mics are good or not
Thanks for the precise timestamps and breakdown, @jjptech! 🥁 If you're looking for more in-depth coverage on getting the best from budget to professional mics, our series of lessons on studio drumming could be just the thing: welcome.drum.dog. Check it out!
Olá tudo bem? Esquiri 4 trigger vou coloca no ead10 vou fazer teste coloca trigger vê como fica achei muito legal, essa ideia de coloca todos 4 a 5 trigger na batera 👏🏻👏🏻
Olá! Estamos ansiosos para saber como os triggers funcionarão com o ead10. Sua experiência com essa configuração será muito valiosa para a comunidade. Obrigado por compartilhar suas ideias!
I hate how thin the toms and how quiet the cymbals sound on the EAD 10, but it is a heck of a value and should really make sharing drum recordings accessible to anyone. I just picked up a 16 channel audio interface and 7 piece mic kit, I’m hoping to have a warm full Tom sound, hopefully it’s worth it!
@@jorgechavez5426 Yeah, no problem, my dude! I just went through the same thing (lol), and snagged the last one that a small mom and pop drum shop in Kansas City had (so, the item was already in the states and ready to ship to me, instead of waiting on an arrival from Asia). Guitar center said they had FIFTY SEVEN on backorder with no expectation of when they would next ship. Everywhere other than eBay is already sold out of them, wants list price of 600$ for it, or are selling open boxed/used units. Good luck, and happy drumming!
I have the ead10. You can record with pots and pans and still sounds good. I use it for my suitcase kit and sounds much bigger than without the features.
Do you use an additional bass drum trigger?
Do you use an additional bass drum trigger?
How about live performance on stage with ead10?
Since the device microphone seems to recognize separate elements is it possible to import this as MIDI into a DAW?
There’s other videos on this exact subject on RUclips. That you can import it to another program and tweak the mix.
I didn’t know Yamaha had that unit. That thing sounds amazing for the price.
Great video - liked that the EAD-10 was compared separately to EAD-10 with triggers. Great to have the full range of solutions.
Without spending the money, I assume the single stereo drum track from the ead just wouldn’t sit in the mix to my liking due to being just too standalone/out of place since you cant dig into individual pieces of the kit to compress/eq or add a touch of reverb used elsewhere in other tracks of the song on the overheads etc
At home I use the Yamaha EAD10 coz you don’t need an interface and computer you just need the EAD10 and your phone so I think it’s great for what it is.
Would it work well in a small room with cement floors? I've sound proofed as best I can
I really enjoyed this video. Would you guys consider doing a comparison between the EAD10 and the Sabian Sound Kit?
I thought the ead10 sounded really good especially for the price. I’ve know some who actually take their EAD10 recordings and run it through another music editor like Audacity or Reaper. I really didn’t hear much of a difference with using the additional triggers on each drum. I’ve been considering buying one for quite some time. Your studio mics definitely sounded better than the cheaper drum mics. I would like to learn more regarding the ead10.
I totally agree that the additional triggers on the ead10 didn't make a noticeable difference. Did you end up getting the ead10? If so, are you happy with it?
Correct answer is…. As little as possible. Also don’t buy “drum mics”. All mics are “drum mics”. Buy 3-57’s and a AKG 214.
Great comparison👍. Actually the T Bone mics do a pretty good job for the money.
Thanks. Yeah true, for small gigs they are great
Great video! Even with cheaper direct mics, I've found that you can usually get a nice sound with some corrective EQing, but the condensers are where more of the differences show up. I made a video comparing budget vs. pro mics a while ago with similar findings, but the EAD wasn't out yet. Nice to see how it stacks up!
Hi, will the Ead10's recording abilities be changed by me having an unusual kit setup?
I've watched a great many videos trying to find the answer to this question.
I put my rack tom a littl further left near my hi hat and the audio it picked up was a little less present it will be quieter obviously because it’s further from the mic. Cymbals should be fine tho but anything bigger than a 5pc kit you will just have to hit hard i guess. Ead is worth the price tho its great
is there anything you can do to upgrade cymbal sounds using a EAD10? for me, that was the biggest difference. the triggers with the EAD sounded great cymbals were still lacking definition
I think it sounds great for cymbals, but then I really don't like too much or too bright cymbals in a mix.
Great Review and really helpful :) I was considering getting an EAD10 but all in all, it will be better for me to stock up on mics and probably get an old Laptop just for recording!
What is not mentioned in the budget aspect, you need an interface and wires for the microphones...so its much more expensive
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Where I agree is the studio mic setup was the best for sure I used the Aston origin on miking a drink it before but I only used one and I had it placed on my kick drum. Absolutely magic on a kick drum had sm57 top of snare an audix on the bottom. Two Blue Hummingbirds as overheads and this was the best mic setup I've found to work for.me.
I needed this video, thanks for taking the time to put it together!!
From the playing and sound perspective, what affect did having triggers on the drums have? Is it worth the investment for them?
No playing/feel difference at all from the triggers, the only change is the additional triggered samples, as shown in the video 🙂
I rented & tested the EAD10, it works great and sets up quickly. To me a great setup for live performances. Quality & speed of setup is really important for live performances. Great demo guys. 👍
Other instruments don't bleed too much into it on a live setting?
@@flashfan1122 not much, the mic system is active in a small radius about 6' radius.
The EAD is the best, it sounds great 👍, I will go in for the EAD for good and quality sound
What were your settings for the EAD-10 to get the "studio" sound? Need to know. Thanks
Hi Jacob! We used the default "Arena" setting with a couple small tweaks, all described at 3:50 🙂👍
There’s also a studio setting on it as well. Really cool unit!!! Works great live for small venues. No need for miking the kit! Just slap that puppy in there and you’re good to go!
Nick, what overhead replacements would you recommend for the t-bone set?
Good question! Behringer C2's would be a budget friendly improvement, but I'd say Rode M5's if funds allowed!
Do a comparison with the cheap and expensive mics with the ead10 together
We dont have the EAD10 anymore but if we come across one again soon we will give it a go. Thanks for watching
The Yamahas have nothing. They sound like an I-phone, compressed, distorted and harmonically poor. could see how that would be attractive for contemporary pop music but I would never go there. The T-Bone's have 100x more spectrum. The expensive set at the end is slightly better for the cymbals - more nuance and truth, less stick and more cymbal. The drums sound the same except the kick is better with the cheap kit, though that could be fixed in the mix.
They all sound great in their own way. The only thing I really noticed, is that the crash cymbal sounds less explosive on the EAD10. Probably because it is far from the mic or partially blocked by the tom.
Surprised to say the EAD, then the cheap mic’s, then the expensive ones. The EAD just sounded thicker.
EAD10 only for smaller venues up to about 100 people, cheaper microphones than these cheapest ones I think are hard to find but they do the job for the money, furthermore, studio microphones can be very different from stage microphones, it depends how deep you go into the matter of sound. in practice, it is an unwritten rule that the more expensive hourly rate in the studio is usually equipped with more expensive microphones as well as other equipment. for live performances, a set of microphones such as AKG session 1 or SHURE pga is quite sufficient....by the way..SONTRONICS I find very good for live and studio
Can we connect the EAD 10 directly in a MacBook to work with Logic or Garageband?
So the bass drum sounds pretty much the same with the t.bone and the shure mic. I really like the t.bone tom mics but the overheads and the snare are missing some highs. I'm shure this can be all fixed with some good EQing tho. Thanks for the video ^^ Since I'm always broke I needed to know wheter the t.bone mics are good or not
8:49 Budget Mics unmixed
9:09 Mudget mics Mixed
9:29 EAD10
9:49 EAD10 + Triggers
10:09 Studio Mics unmixed
10:29 Studio Mics Mixed
Thanks for the precise timestamps and breakdown, @jjptech! 🥁 If you're looking for more in-depth coverage on getting the best from budget to professional mics, our series of lessons on studio drumming could be just the thing: welcome.drum.dog. Check it out!
The toms seem to have phasing issues on the Yamaha EADs with the overheads
What is the ead10 being heard through? I know in ears but I see a ton of vids so I'm guessing through to pa and mixer?
So when you say "Mixed" what excactly does that entail?
Can the ead10 export midi? Like if I wanted to record using the ead but blend ezdrummer sounds with that recording in a vst?
Can you record midi with the Yamaha ead10?
I like your studio mics without mixed as the best sound
EAD10 has the best sound, and you can pre-mix it easily
Hello ! I am curious as to what cymbal set you are using in this video? cheers!
All gear featured is listed in the description. Thanks for tuning in! 🙏🙂
ead 10 killed your mix bro ahahaha
Gosh I love Yamaha drums
Olá tudo bem? Esquiri 4 trigger vou coloca no ead10 vou fazer teste coloca trigger vê como fica achei muito legal, essa ideia de coloca todos 4 a 5 trigger na batera 👏🏻👏🏻
Olá! Estamos ansiosos para saber como os triggers funcionarão com o ead10. Sua experiência com essa configuração será muito valiosa para a comunidade. Obrigado por compartilhar suas ideias!
I have the EAD10 as well..and did you use anything else to bring the low on the kick?
If you use the triggers with the ead10 with recording with the snare come out as an individual track on your DAW or is it still just one track?
Unfortunately that is the limitation of the EAD10, even with the triggers the only recordable output is just a single stereo track!
What size is your drum room?
EAD is GREAT!!!
No mike seems to help the toms.........bad tuning.
Awesome!
I can use de ead trigger on another module?
I mean, take de output 1 wich its the one that take audio From the mics on the ead and the trigger output send it to another module
Hey brother..💪💪my drum sound is not good.. is it a problem to yamaha ead 10 module?.. if i add it my drum will it work well?
The EAD10 does enhance your drum sound with samples, which will help, but we always recommend getting your drums sounding good at source first 🙂
@@drumdog thnk you brother ❤❤
If i use drum triggers with this item, sound will be better?
I hate how thin the toms and how quiet the cymbals sound on the EAD 10, but it is a heck of a value and should really make sharing drum recordings accessible to anyone.
I just picked up a 16 channel audio interface and 7 piece mic kit, I’m hoping to have a warm full Tom sound, hopefully it’s worth it!
I bought one from guitar centers site and it took over 2 months to ship now it’s here though and I just need to play around with my settings
It seems its out of stock. I can´t find it anywhere!
If you're talking about the EAD10, you can find them on eBay still. Everywhere else they are sold out, or backordered.
@@blakenunndrums Thanks man!
@@jorgechavez5426 Yeah, no problem, my dude! I just went through the same thing (lol), and snagged the last one that a small mom and pop drum shop in Kansas City had (so, the item was already in the states and ready to ship to me, instead of waiting on an arrival from Asia). Guitar center said they had FIFTY SEVEN on backorder with no expectation of when they would next ship. Everywhere other than eBay is already sold out of them, wants list price of 600$ for it, or are selling open boxed/used units. Good luck, and happy drumming!
The Yamaha sounds fantastic
@Kalvin Miller what I do is I run it thru a interface and remix my playing in Ableton live just a slight compressor and eq. Sounds excellent
@Kalvin Miller not good enough for real recording but definitely amazing for home recording and videos for sure
Limted chops.