I feel like they sounded way more roomier and unfocused than the other ones. Nice and fat when the drum is solo, but they may be tricky to use in a live stage or in a tight mix.
I like this kind of demo by just showing the close mic first then mix the overhead later so that we can know how the cymbal bleed going in to the close mic and then we get how each of individual close mic sounds like.
Darn, you should've volume matched the samples. Obviously, a condenser set will be louder and thus sound substantially better. You need to turn the volume down when listening to Sontronics set or other set comprised of mostly condensers. But thank you for the comparison, very useful!
Sontronics feels like a live gig and make me vibe. Nice atack, "airy", dirty... I would use it in rock, punk or rap. Lewitt is like a "upgraded version". More sensitivity, more elegant, not so "airy". Sennheiser low end control feels amazing. Thanks for the video. Really usefull!
If you're playing live, Lewitt bring higher quality and sound. Yes it's mid range but worth it. Now lower end mics are good for small clubs because much if the tone will be carried through the wall acoustic.
I’ve found that while sure is a very reliable product, it’s sound caters to a certain frequency range. And it’s right down the middle. To contrast. Senhieser really opens up the higher and lower frequencies for a much more crisp playback.
I'm trying to choose between the AKG and beyerdynamic TG pro M. The akg sounds a bit muffled to my ears. I really liked the beyerdynamic set except for the boundary kick mic, which seemed to be kind of distorted. Maybe I should get the beyerdynamic and supplement it with another kick mic and blend the two? What do you say Simon? Help me out here Thomann!
@@ThomannsDrumBash I want to assemble my own custom mic set. I've already bought Sennheiser e902 for Bass Drum and Audix i5 for Snare Drum... Now looking for nice and clear overheads...
@@steeltruedrum did you check our overhead mic video yet? Or are you looking for more professional overheads. If so. Inhighly recommend lewitts LCT 440 Pure. They sound great! //Simon
For me the it was the beyerdynamic TG Drum-Set Pro L MKII and the Sontronics DrumPack Plus that stood out. I would consider a mix and match taking only the kick and the overheads from the Sontronics but I would have to hear the isolated tracks to be sure. Unless anyone has tried this, or another combination already...
I really liked the lewitt kits . My kit has 6.35 mm l&r out so no mics required, now if I could only figure out how to trigger the cowbell??? I hear it when I plug in the kick pad but 🤷🏽♂️ where it’s accessed, the previous owners probably lost it 🤣.
It depends on what you'd like to achieve. With a mic set you have full control on every single drum signal you're going to record. With the EAD 10 you don't have that but it's very easy to record drums fast with a pretty good overall sound plus the extra trigger and effects functions. //Simon
The Sontronic sound like really expensive ones but have a great price. Earthworks also great, like the pricetag... but the Audix set also does a great job. Thanks a lot for the comparison, must have been a ton of work to set all these mics up! :)
The problem nobody has mentioned with the Sontronic is that they are all condenser mics. So you can hear even on the close mics only clip, the hi hat rejection on the snare mic is basically non-existent. Which is fine for live sound but for recording, cymbal bleed into close mics is a pain.
The big positive point for Earthworks mics is that they provide a very authentic and honest sound. In the direct comparison with the Audix mics you can hear the difference very good. I would choose between Audix and Earthworks ✌ But the Lewitt mics sound awesome for that price....
Ow boy those earthworks sound amazing.. they seem to capture so much more detail + they're tiny and so easy to place around the kit. My issue is I don't have 3.3k€ 😂
The Sennheiser 900 wins it for me, but I would be more than satisfied with the neutral and airy sounding AKG, which has a fine balanced and controlled sound. They do lack some nuances in comparison to Sennheiser 900but for most work they offer all you need is what I hear through my Sony MDR-7506 headphones.
The toms/snare mics only. The TG35s are about $90 each, and the TG57s and 58s are $150 each, and it comes with an expandable case. The 57s and 58s take up a lot less space, I think they sound great. Just to note though, the Pro M in the VIDEO is mislabeled, it's x4 TG35s and x2 TG53s, not the other way around as shown in the image.
It‘s a good video but remeber that they used a DW kit with top-of-the-line Zildjians to record which makes recording easier because you don‘t have to edit as much as with lower standard drums or cymbals. Also you should consider that the drums where recorded in a top noch studio which was probably equipped by a technician and has high quality dampening materials. Still it is a good overfiew for people who have to make a compromise between gear and purse.
Interesting how people like the Sontronics. If you turn that part down to match the volume of the other mics, you'll hear they are just OK...boomy and a lack of definition. Earthworks sounds most realistic, maybe too clinical.
man the budget one is not that bad, its sound muddy tho but can be fixed by eqing the high end.... anw fill on 2.50 its sick... hope someone can transcribe it or the sticking pattern... nice videoo!
would be nice for the shootout to have consistent playback levels. Some examples are far louder and can be misleading
Full list of timestamps for all your comparison needs:
Overhead Comparison:
0:29 IMG Stageline Drumset 1
0:50 AKG Drumset Session I
1:15 t.bone DC4000 Set
1:52 Beyerdynamic TG Drumset Pro M MKII
2:37 Shure PGA Drumkit 7
3:04 Sontronics Drumpack Plus
4:33 Beyerdynamic TG Drumset Pro L MKII
5:08 Sennheiser 600
5:26 Lewitt DTP Beat Kit Pro 7
6:11 Sennheiser 900
6:40 Audix DP8 Elite Drumcase Set
7:59 Earthworks Audio DK7
Close Mics Comparison:
0:12 IMG Stageline Drumset 1
0:37 AKG Drumset Session I
1:06 t.bone DC4000 Set
2:07 Beyerdynamic TG Drumset Pro M MKII
2:22 Shure PGA Drumkit 7
2:54 Sontronics Drumpack Plus
4:14 Beyerdynamic TG Drumset Pro L MKII
4:52 Sennheiser 600
5:40 Lewitt DTP Beat Kit Pro 7
5:55 Sennheiser 900
6:29 Audix DP8 Elite Drumcase Set
7:41 Earthworks Audio DK7
blown away by the Sontronics, they sounded fantastic
I feel like they sounded way more roomier and unfocused than the other ones. Nice and fat when the drum is solo, but they may be tricky to use in a live stage or in a tight mix.
TOMS ONLY
2:12 Beyerdynamic TG Drumset Pro M MKII
2:35 Shure PGA Drumkit 7
4:21 4:30 Beyerdynamic TG Drumset Pro L MKII
4:58 5:05 Sennheiser 600
5:50 Lewitt DTP Beat Kit Pro 7
6:08 Sennheiser 900
TOMS WITH OH
1:58 2:05 Beyerdynamic TG Drumset Pro M MKII
2:48 Shure PGA Drumkit 7
4:49 Beyerdynamic TG Drumset Pro L MKII
5:14 5:20 Sennheiser 600
5:25 5:37 Lewitt DTP Beat Kit Pro 7
6:13 6:17 6:26 Sennheiser 900
I love the kick of the Sennheiser
Damn, the 250€ AKG sounded incredibely! They're probably the best mics at an affordable price!
I went for the AKG but upgraded the kick to a d112, everything I need
This video needed the following: Shure Beta, sE V Pack, Electro Voice, Samson DK707, and some others
The AKG set sounds good for the price!
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@@leonardopozo4861 eq
4:34 These mics are the best sounding mics ever!! Crisp and clear. They are nice and loud, too.
Easily my fav. The earthworks sucked
those and the sennheiser 900's
@@theraise5243 I got this pack, it's amazing, can't recommend it enough.
I love the beyer dynamic kick mic lmao
If if played the same pattern with all the mics, this shootout would make much more sense. Food for thought
I like this kind of demo by just showing the close mic first then mix the overhead later so that we can know how the cymbal bleed going in to the close mic and then we get how each of individual close mic sounds like.
0:51 AKG
1:52 beyer M
2:37 SHURE
4:33 beyer L
5:09 SENNHEISER
Darn, you should've volume matched the samples. Obviously, a condenser set will be louder and thus sound substantially better. You need to turn the volume down when listening to Sontronics set or other set comprised of mostly condensers. But thank you for the comparison, very useful!
Those AKG's and Shure sonded great for the price... and the Sontronics, Lewitts an Audix sounded great! Earthworks, damn...
Sontronics sound amazing. My favorite kit was the Sennheiser 900 but I think I would use other overheads. Thanks for this great video.
Earthworks AMAZING!!!!!, Sontronics very good sound too
Sontronics feels like a live gig and make me vibe. Nice atack, "airy", dirty... I would use it in rock, punk or rap. Lewitt is like a "upgraded version". More sensitivity, more elegant, not so "airy".
Sennheiser low end control feels amazing.
Thanks for the video. Really usefull!
I'm liking the clarity of the Sontronics! Seems to be the best bang for your buck. Of course the Earthworks are amazing, but that price tag 😮💨
If you're playing live, Lewitt bring higher quality and sound. Yes it's mid range but worth it. Now lower end mics are good for small clubs because much if the tone will be carried through the wall acoustic.
I’ve found that while sure is a very reliable product, it’s sound caters to a certain frequency range. And it’s right down the middle. To contrast. Senhieser really opens up the higher and lower frequencies for a much more crisp playback.
Personal Choices:
Snare: Audix i5
Kick: Sennheiser E602
Toms: Beyerdynamic TG
Overheads: AKG C214
🔥🔥🔥 Great choices! //Simon
Pro trick: watch series on Flixzone. Me and my gf have been using them for watching lots of of movies recently.
@Shane Zane yea, have been using flixzone} for months myself =)
my fav is Sontronics Drumpack Plus
BeyerDynamic got my attention.
In my experience Beyerdynamic makes only high quality good sounding mics and I have quite a few now.
I'm trying to choose between the AKG and beyerdynamic TG pro M. The akg sounds a bit muffled to my ears. I really liked the beyerdynamic set except for the boundary kick mic, which seemed to be kind of distorted. Maybe I should get the beyerdynamic and supplement it with another kick mic and blend the two? What do you say Simon? Help me out here Thomann!
This is exactly what I have been waiting and looking for for a long time!!! Thanks, Simon!
Hi Ivan! Perfect. Thanks a lot. //Simon
@@ThomannsDrumBash I want to assemble my own custom mic set. I've already bought Sennheiser e902 for Bass Drum and Audix i5 for Snare Drum... Now looking for nice and clear overheads...
@@steeltruedrum did you check our overhead mic video yet? Or are you looking for more professional overheads. If so. Inhighly recommend lewitts LCT 440 Pure. They sound great! //Simon
@@ThomannsDrumBash yes, we told about it. I asked you about se8.
@@steeltruedrum ah yeah! //Simon
That ride is delicious!
Well, seems I am the only one falling in love with the Beyerdinamic TG Ls. So clean
Nope! I use these every day and love the clear top end!
I'm having trouble deciding between the t.bone DC4000 Set and AKG Drumset Session I... :(
IMG Stageline Drumset 1 KICK Sound Awesome !
Sontronics are defo the best sound/price value. Earthworks just sounds killer and super balanced.
Mejor comparativa de micrófonos de batería que he visto , muy útil . Felicitaciones y gracias .
For me the it was the beyerdynamic TG Drum-Set Pro L MKII and the Sontronics DrumPack Plus that stood out. I would consider a mix and match taking only the kick and the overheads from the Sontronics but I would have to hear the isolated tracks to be sure. Unless anyone has tried this, or another combination already...
I really liked the lewitt kits . My kit has 6.35 mm l&r out so no mics required, now if I could only figure out how to trigger the cowbell??? I hear it when I plug in the kick pad but 🤷🏽♂️ where it’s accessed, the previous owners probably lost it 🤣.
Stress reducing groves and fills...loved it
Thanks a lot Zahto! Which one‘s your favorite mic set? //Simon
@@ThomannsDrumBash The Senheinser 900 were pretty amazing
Id go with the Sennheiser 900 but add the Audix DP8 kick mic, it has a nice rounded low end
Should I buy a lower priced microphone set or just shoot for a Yamaha EAD10?
It depends on what you'd like to achieve. With a mic set you have full control on every single drum signal you're going to record. With the EAD 10 you don't have that but it's very easy to record drums fast with a pretty good overall sound plus the extra trigger and effects functions. //Simon
Senheinser 900 set is pretty good..!
The classic Drum Bash Sound :) We use this set in almost every video. //Simon
cant seem to find the drum multitrack download links, would love to take a listen and dissect them a bit more
Thank so much for this excellent and very useful work :
Thank alot 👍
But now the 900s are missing from Thomann?? 🤯😬
Great video, thanks! If money were no object it would be difficult to go past the Earthworks kit. In my world, Sennheiser seems to do a great job.
Amazing! What overheads did you use on all tests
Great comparison, even better woukd be playing the smae song and let it hear in the mix! ❤❤
4:40 Hi! What are the mics on the rack toms?
These are the Beyerdynamics TG D58 //Simon
The Sontronic sound like really expensive ones but have a great price. Earthworks also great, like the pricetag... but the Audix set also does a great job. Thanks a lot for the comparison, must have been a ton of work to set all these mics up! :)
Well. It took a little while :) //Simon
I need to know which is the best so can u please tell me?
not finding any videos comparing the Rockville mics against anything, are they that bad?
Hi! Unfortunately we don't have them in our shop!
Audix dp8 elite drumcase set
The problem nobody has mentioned with the Sontronic is that they are all condenser mics. So you can hear even on the close mics only clip, the hi hat rejection on the snare mic is basically non-existent. Which is fine for live sound but for recording, cymbal bleed into close mics is a pain.
You use gate? Or do all microphones sound here without a gate?
My guess is that they didn't use any EQ or compressor just the raw sound
also no gate at all, You can hear the floor toms ringing.
hey man did you mix the drumkit afterwards? or is the sound were hearing actually what it sounds like with no mixing.
Hi Matt. We didn’t mix the drums. This is the actual sound of the mics. //Simon
The big positive point for Earthworks mics is that they provide a very authentic and honest sound. In the direct comparison with the Audix mics you can hear the difference very good. I would choose between Audix and Earthworks ✌ But the Lewitt mics sound awesome for that price....
They totally do provide a great natural sound. Great Choice. //Simon
IMG es impresionante!! Por ese precio?
Actually the IMG Do sound pretty good! No SE Electronics though?
Unfortunately not this time. //Simon
Those Earthworks mics sound amazing! They better are for that price lol
True 😂 they sound great.
Ow boy those earthworks sound amazing.. they seem to capture so much more detail + they're tiny and so easy to place around the kit. My issue is I don't have 3.3k€ 😂
Hi Raoul. Yes. The sound is amazing. Such clarity and the kit sounds super natural. The price point is heavy though :) //Simon
The Sennheiser 900 wins it for me, but I would be more than satisfied with the neutral and airy sounding AKG, which has a fine balanced and controlled sound. They do lack some nuances in comparison to Sennheiser 900but for most work they offer all you need is what I hear through my Sony MDR-7506 headphones.
Go with the cheap stuff, it has all you need.
Yo queria ver unos superlux en accion 😢
Pero exelente vudeo muy divertido, y tocas realmente increible 😮
Earthworks is the best. However, Lewitt has a great sound and I need it for 7 piece kit. So, Lewitt fits great sound, good price...
What's the main difference between the Beyerdynamic Pro M and the Pro L??
The toms/snare mics only. The TG35s are about $90 each, and the TG57s and 58s are $150 each, and it comes with an expandable case. The 57s and 58s take up a lot less space, I think they sound great. Just to note though, the Pro M in the VIDEO is mislabeled, it's x4 TG35s and x2 TG53s, not the other way around as shown in the image.
@@ytscksdabig1 and which do you recommend me??
@@franciscozarzosogil9075 There's a lot that goes into a recommendation like that. Do you have a big budget or not much money to work with?
@@ytscksdabig1 I could pay the prize of the L pack, but if the M pack could serve me, I'd choose it.
@@franciscozarzosogil9075 I just personally bought the L, if you aren't needing the top of line, grab that M pack man, it's going to be great for you.
Shure PGA DRUMKIT 7 did it for me ….
Awesome content, keep going Simon! Can you please also publish a few videos on how you mix drums for your channel?
Hi Alexey. Thanks a lot. Appreciate it. I’ll try to. Anything specific in mind or just in general? //Simon
@@ThomannsDrumBash Are there any Eqs, compressor's etc. In the channels?
@@smalldevelful Hi! Nope, nothing.
Estaría bien una comparativa solo de micrófonos de condensador, incluyendo los Audix Micro D. Saludos
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Test bleed of mic
It‘s a good video but remeber that they used a DW kit with top-of-the-line Zildjians to record which makes recording easier because you don‘t have to edit as much as with lower standard drums or cymbals. Also you should consider that the drums where recorded in a top noch studio which was probably equipped by a technician and has high quality dampening materials.
Still it is a good overfiew for people who have to make a compromise between gear and purse.
I made my gf play the drumming parts while i was not looking or knowing the make. Sonotronics won by a landslide. where the most realistic ones.
Good Idea! //Simon
Shure is the best😀
Interesting how people like the Sontronics. If you turn that part down to match the volume of the other mics, you'll hear they are just OK...boomy and a lack of definition. Earthworks sounds most realistic, maybe too clinical.
man the budget one is not that bad, its sound muddy tho but can be fixed by eqing the high end.... anw fill on 2.50 its sick... hope someone can transcribe it or the sticking pattern... nice videoo!
Thanks for the feedback man. Appreciate it. //Simon
¿Todos los sets estan grabados al miso volumen? Hay EQ o Comp? Graciaa
Hi Nacho. Si, todos los sets estan grabados al miso volumen. No EQ, No Comp. //Simon
Cool! Would have been nice though if he didn’t play something different, and play completely different for each set.
Bro please give me this
I love it
This is toooo much good
Whoever was in charge of showing how many of each mic you get in the set was WAY off...
2200€ and it sounded like shit, only one kit was crisp clear, the rest sounded like an mp3 file in 56kbps
Sorry guys i didnt heard too much differences between all of this microphons....