Cheers from Australia ! Very good performance indeed ! I practice a similar style of Bagua, not identical but some postures are quite recognisable. Liked the way you fill your body with constant non-muscular force, and esp. that you're not breaking its flow in transitions (which a lot of Bagua folks do, including me). All three limbs go out together, which shows long practice. The only thing to mention, if you don't mind, is that your arms not always start their movement from the root joints, only sometimes, but palms move with shoulders remaining static. That way you disconnect from the spinal force for a short while. Also, a miniscule remark -- you do have the energy from feet to Bai Hui, it shows, but if you try to gently extend your forehead rather than chin then the back of the neck would extend even better. Otherwise your performance has just inspired me to go out and practice more, too ! Thanks and good luck.
Thanks for the kind words. The further you go, the more you realize how much more there is yet to learn. My teacher, Andrea Falk has an incredible depth of experience. Her memoir of training in Beijing in the 1980's will be published soon: www.thewushucentre.ca/book-translations/beijing-bittersweet.html
So I have a very beginner but important question. When you are going through the different postures and animal styles during circle walking exercises. If 1 animal style seems to feel more natural to you than the others, should that be ur 1st
This is a good question - thanks for asking. The sequence has its own internal logic, so I think it is best to follow the order in which they are presented. But noticing both the ones that feel more natural and more challenging is equally important since this can help guide your training. (The ones you are drawn to the least are probably the ones you need to figure out most).
Hello, is it also possible to do the 8 postures with mudstepping? I am about to take the online course, but I don't see the point in circle walking without mudstepping.
Yes, you can do the posture training with the mud-step. Without mudstep allows you to focus on getting the postures aligned. With mud stepping, requires maintaining that alignment.
I would love it if you could do a video on the transitions from standing to different crouching positions or from crouching to jumps. These videos help me alot. Thank you
Jiang RongQiao was a student of Zhang ShouHeng who was a student of Dong HaiChang. Here is a good lineage chart: ottawakungfu01.tripod.com/250Bagau002Z.htm
I have videos on the Jiang Palm Changes on my class site: eastmountain.ca/learning.html#bagua. I cycle through lessons to cover all eight, posting lessons on a weekly basis. Right now Change 4 & 5 are posted!
I've found it to be a useful complement to my tai chi practice & as a moving meditation. If interested, you can check out my course: east-mountain.coursify.me/courses/bagua-8-postures-8-techniques
What you're describing is just one of many styles of circle walking. Yin style, for example, doesn't use the "muddy stepping" at all, yet remains a legit Baguazhang.
One might wonder why you call single palm change dragon... There is no crab nor yin yang fish. Eagle posture is monkey carrying (bowls or something)... The name is not supposed to matter the technique does but you seem to not show the original school techniques.-Ernie Moore Jr.
I heard from an interview with Di GuoYong that mud-step is a training method especially for Cheng & Jiang styles. I've certainly seen Jiang practiced with a natural step.
No offense but I’d like to know what dong hai chuan knew and not one of his disciples. None of them seemed to have passed on the essence. These are just movements you are dancing.
Yes, it is easy to misjudge bagua because of the 'flowery' quality of the movements. I mention this in my video ruclips.net/video/Xg3AyyjcWXI/видео.html. I don't think being suspicious of what was taught or not taught, learnt or not learnt is as useful as studying the dance to learn its essence.
You are absolutely right, unfortunately, what is shown under the name "baguazhang", at least what I have seen, is a cargo cult, in which either the applied meaning is completely lost, or the demonstrated technique has nothing to do with baguazhang.
Thank you. I've been looking for clear instruction on the Jiang 8 palms for a while. Thisis very similar to the set I learned years ago
Glad this is helpful. Thanks for the feedback!
Thanks for your generosity! The free knowledge you give, Is a chance. thank you
Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment. I hope the information is helpful for. you.
This is the most beautiful teaching I have ever seen. (Bows deeply.) Wow!
Thanks for the kind words. The beauty is in the tradition.
thank you very much for your impressive demonstration! i find the precision of your movements inspiring to imitate.
Thanks for the kind words. I hope the instruction helps you in your practice.
I use this everyday. Gifted teacher.
I'm glad this video is helpful! Keep training & learning.
Thank you very much, this is a great help 🙏☯️
I'm glad the video was helpful. Keep training!
Cheers from Australia ! Very good performance indeed ! I practice a similar style of Bagua, not identical but some postures are quite recognisable. Liked the way you fill your body with constant non-muscular force, and esp. that you're not breaking its flow in transitions (which a lot of Bagua folks do, including me). All three limbs go out together, which shows long practice. The only thing to mention, if you don't mind, is that your arms not always start their movement from the root joints, only sometimes, but palms move with shoulders remaining static. That way you disconnect from the spinal force for a short while. Also, a miniscule remark -- you do have the energy from feet to Bai Hui, it shows, but if you try to gently extend your forehead rather than chin then the back of the neck would extend even better. Otherwise your performance has just inspired me to go out and practice more, too ! Thanks and good luck.
Thanks for the feedback & helpful observations. Since this was posted (2 yr ago), these are exactly the things I've been working on.
Very impressive. You must have gone a long way, and had learnt from a great master.
Thanks for the kind words. The further you go, the more you realize how much more there is yet to learn. My teacher, Andrea Falk has an incredible depth of experience. Her memoir of training in Beijing in the 1980's will be published soon: www.thewushucentre.ca/book-translations/beijing-bittersweet.html
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So I have a very beginner but important question. When you are going through the different postures and animal styles during circle walking exercises. If 1 animal style seems to feel more natural to you than the others, should that be ur 1st
This is a good question - thanks for asking. The sequence has its own internal logic, so I think it is best to follow the order in which they are presented. But noticing both the ones that feel more natural and more challenging is equally important since this can help guide your training. (The ones you are drawn to the least are probably the ones you need to figure out most).
Hello, is it also possible to do the 8 postures with mudstepping? I am about to take the online course, but I don't see the point in circle walking without mudstepping.
Yes, you can do the posture training with the mud-step. Without mudstep allows you to focus on getting the postures aligned. With mud stepping, requires maintaining that alignment.
Very interesting, very nicely presented - many thanks.
Thanks. Hope it is helpful.
I would love it if you could do a video on the transitions from standing to different crouching positions or from crouching to jumps. These videos help me alot. Thank you
Thanks for the feedback. Check this short: ruclips.net/user/shortsP2ehDpODCx4. I think it'll help with getting into and out of low stances.
Sorry why aren't you doing the mudstep here? I saw you in another video, where you did...
Good question - how I learnt Jiang style, posture training comes before mud step.
Like your video as it’s clear and easy to learn. Heap thanks
Thanks for the kind words. Glad it is helpful in your training.
Great intro! Thank you
Thanks for your feedback!
Why is Jiang different from Original School??-Ernie Moore Jr.
Jiang RongQiao was a student of Zhang ShouHeng who was a student of Dong HaiChang. Here is a good lineage chart: ottawakungfu01.tripod.com/250Bagau002Z.htm
Would love to see the 8 palm changes.
I have videos on the Jiang Palm Changes on my class site: eastmountain.ca/learning.html#bagua. I cycle through lessons to cover all eight, posting lessons on a weekly basis. Right now Change 4 & 5 are posted!
Very interesting and useful presentation. Easy to follow.
Thanks for the feedback. I hope the video is helpful.
Very nice, do you teach liu he ba fa?
Thanks for the feedback. Unfortunately I haven't had the opportunity to learn liuhe bafa.
I would like to learn this circle walk to supplement my tai chi and support my meditation.
I've found it to be a useful complement to my tai chi practice & as a moving meditation. If interested, you can check out my course: east-mountain.coursify.me/courses/bagua-8-postures-8-techniques
При хождение по кругу, стопа сначала касается передней подушечки и на пол фута скользит, движения ладонями, руками, и пояснице в идеале, хорошо 👍
Thanks for the feedback! I think details like the ones you mention are important for training.
What you're describing is just one of many styles of circle walking. Yin style, for example, doesn't use the "muddy stepping" at all, yet remains a legit Baguazhang.
@@_eastmountain How very polite of you 🙂
One might wonder why you call single palm change dragon...
There is no crab nor yin yang fish. Eagle posture is monkey carrying (bowls or something)...
The name is not supposed to matter the technique does but you seem to not show the original school techniques.-Ernie Moore Jr.
He does not walk as if walking in mud.-Ernie Moore Jr.
I heard from an interview with Di GuoYong that mud-step is a training method especially for Cheng & Jiang styles. I've certainly seen Jiang practiced with a natural step.
Your lion starts too open. It improves.... but the footwork seems always not grounded.-Ernie More Jr.
Thanks for your feedback. Yes, with the warm up I learnt a more open Lion Posture - to help refine the alignment through the shoulderblades.
No offense but I’d like to know what dong hai chuan knew and not one of his disciples. None of them seemed to have passed on the essence. These are just movements you are dancing.
Yes, it is easy to misjudge bagua because of the 'flowery' quality of the movements. I mention this in my video ruclips.net/video/Xg3AyyjcWXI/видео.html. I don't think being suspicious of what was taught or not taught, learnt or not learnt is as useful as studying the dance to learn its essence.
You are absolutely right, unfortunately, what is shown under the name "baguazhang", at least what I have seen, is a cargo cult, in which either the applied meaning is completely lost, or the demonstrated technique has nothing to do with baguazhang.
Did you know one of his disciples? You would have to be very, very old.