This guy is the coolest guy I've seen on YT in the past 6 months. Animatronic is the way to go. Movies use 24p because the unperceivable flickering to the human eye makes the human mind suspend actual reality. The FPS help immersion. The exact same thing with (compared to CGI) imperfect foam and rubber animatronics. There is a sense of transposed realism. A viewers mind is torn between reality and unreality and falls into the "missing frames" as it were. The viewer falls into the story. Coupled to a great director and cinematographer, good, thought out, animatronics are utopia in film making and story telling. And that's still without mentioning the inevitable end results of the workmanship of a great number of talented artists working together on something tangible in a great atmosphere. What an incredible job / passion to have.
When I see a movie with practical effects, I really appreciate the hard work that went in to it. Also, the imperfections make it more real, not like CGI which is too perfect.
I wish the costume/puppet makers had the Slimer puppet costume still look like that of the two scenes of Ghostbusters II (2) when Louis had first seen Slimer in the firehouse eating his lunch and when Slimer was driving a bus and the deleted scenes when Louis was trying to catch Slimer.
I was also really impressed with the Mask when it first came out. Not that it had the same texture challenges as other CGI movies, but it was one of the first movies that used CGI on a grand scale, and it impressed the hell out of me. The only thing I don't like in Lord ot the rings, is the cave troll, but that's only because I'm from Scandinavia, and trolls look a lot different here. Gollum? Fantastic.
I agree. It would be great for you to utilize the same techniques used for creature creation for the third film instead of just allowing for the ghosts to be completely CG. Maybe Mr. Johnson can campaign to Reitman or Sony to utilize the old-school effects for the film.
Never fear Steve! We love practical efx! And even though I understand the fact that cgi needs to be used too to create a character the practical efx will have the emotional response from the audience! Despise the fact I have seen AVATAR and I think it looks pretty good, I could not relate to the digital world of it!
I wonder if I was watching Ghost Busters the day they made the video. Two years ago I actually bought the DVD and watched it, it was 2009... maybe I was watching, maybe....
Yeah, I had the same reaction with The Mask, I thought it was pretty impressive.I think, overall, CGI is more impressive when it isn't animated by "hand" and more, when it has a base movement to it. For example, most of the CGI for Lord of the Rings was either done through input movements from actors and animals, and Jurassic Park was done through a stop motion input rig that could take the movements and convert them into the computer. Everything has a place in my mind, CGI and practical.
I disagree with a lot of people here. CGI can be just effective in film as practical effects. Look at Jurassic Park, for example. The practical effects were, of course, god-tier by Stan Winston, but the CGI was puppeteer by an input rig that was a hybrid between Stan Winston's remote-controls and Phil Tippet's stop motion animation. The end result was very realistic and organic moving CGI in combination with Winston's practical effects. Food for thought.
I know he was loosely based on Belushi in part, But I wonder what the Slimer character was like when he was alive. LOL Must have been an interesting guy huh? They need to find a way of putting that human touch back into FX laden films, Those human hands involved just put a sense of life into things, even when very basic. Most CGI still leaves a synthetic aftertaste in the brain. I think most know what I am talking about there.
@rotwang2000 Because some traditional effects look bad too. In Ghostbusters, for example, there are some scenes that (IMO) would have looked better if they were done with CGI, like Dana's transformation on top of the tower.
Ghostbusters is the absolute pinnacle of "Great-Movies". (Among others of course but for me, it's #1 by far!) I really hope Danny & Bill get #3 going without the HollyWood bullshit trying to get its hands in there like #2. #LONGLIVEGHOSTBUSTERS
@RogerRabid I agree with you. Sure it takes more time but CGI shouldn't be used when costumes, makeup and animatronics will work just as well and even more realistically! Too much CGI in a movie shows laziness.
Well yeah, that's a given. But the point is that as an art form, CGI is still on par with practical effects and stop motion. There was crappy stop motion and practical effects just as well. Lord of the Rings and Jurassic Park are two movies that nailed the CGI pretty well and believably, it's just that studios have a tendency to chose the cheap option. But CGI isn't always doomed to failure, it's just expensive.
you are awesome! If sony asked you to in some way work on Ghostbusters 3 would you? Id rather have the real film making puppets and miniatures and all that stuff back into the movies.. So sick of all this "digital age" nothing is real i cant think "how'd they do that' cause its just all done with computers now.
I think CGI's good but there have a lot incidiences in the movies where CGI has been used when it wasn't even necessary. Besides lots of CGI effects lately look so cheap and unreal to me. It's also putting sculptors, costume designers/makers and makeup artists for the movies out of work. Besides some of the best work to be proud of is the kind that gets your hands dirty. CGI should only be used when no other alternative will work!
CGI is just an extra tool. Why not get rid of computer editing and go back to doing it all in camera, rewinding film as they did a century ago ? CGI as a tool can do so many things very easily, just as practical effects can do stuff much more easily and cheaply than CGI. It's just a matter of finding the right balance.
Practical effects always beat the modern CGI effects.
That's one of the reasons why I love the 80's.
Thanks for these Steve!! LONG LIVE GHOSTBUSTERS!!!! Here's hoping for a third one!!!!
This guy is the coolest guy I've seen on YT in the past 6 months.
Animatronic is the way to go. Movies use 24p because the unperceivable flickering to the human eye makes the human mind suspend actual reality. The FPS help immersion.
The exact same thing with (compared to CGI) imperfect foam and rubber animatronics. There is a sense of transposed realism. A viewers mind is torn between reality and unreality and falls into the "missing frames" as it were. The viewer falls into the story.
Coupled to a great director and cinematographer, good, thought out, animatronics are utopia in film making and story telling.
And that's still without mentioning the inevitable end results of the workmanship of a great number of talented artists working together on something tangible in a great atmosphere.
What an incredible job / passion to have.
Slimer is a very memorable ghost and character. Great job to you and the crew that brought that slimmy little fella to "life" (no pun intended).
Screw CGI. I'll take stop motion and animatronics any day. The movie still looks amazing to me, and very authentic.
When I see a movie with practical effects, I really appreciate the hard work that went in to it. Also, the imperfections make it more real, not like CGI which is too perfect.
Most films do hand animation in-program. I think the Stop-Motion/CGI combo is the best
I wish the costume/puppet makers had the Slimer puppet costume still look like that of the two scenes of Ghostbusters II (2) when Louis had first seen Slimer in the firehouse eating his lunch and when Slimer was driving a bus and the deleted scenes when Louis was trying to catch Slimer.
I was also really impressed with the Mask when it first came out. Not that it had the same texture challenges as other CGI movies, but it was one of the first movies that used CGI on a grand scale, and it impressed the hell out of me. The only thing I don't like in Lord ot the rings, is the cave troll, but that's only because I'm from Scandinavia, and trolls look a lot different here. Gollum? Fantastic.
I wish they would start using these practical effects in films again, and enhance them digitally.
this was really interesting to see how they did thei
My Lord I LOVE THIS SO MUCH!!!!! THANK YOU!!!!
Watching in 2019 and now its the 35th Anniversary!!
Watching? I Make a living off Ghostbusters!
I love this movie!
I agree. It would be great for you to utilize the same techniques used for creature creation for the third film instead of just allowing for the ghosts to be completely CG. Maybe Mr. Johnson can campaign to Reitman or Sony to utilize the old-school effects for the film.
Never fear Steve! We love practical efx! And even though I understand the fact that cgi needs to be used too to create a character the practical efx will have the emotional response from the audience! Despise the fact I have seen AVATAR and I think it looks pretty good, I could not relate to the digital world of it!
I wonder if I was watching Ghost Busters the day they made the video. Two years ago I actually bought the DVD and watched it, it was 2009... maybe I was watching, maybe....
Last I knew it was still awaiting a green light
Yeah, I had the same reaction with The Mask, I thought it was pretty impressive.I think, overall, CGI is more impressive when it isn't animated by "hand" and more, when it has a base movement to it. For example, most of the CGI for Lord of the Rings was either done through input movements from actors and animals, and Jurassic Park was done through a stop motion input rig that could take the movements and convert them into the computer. Everything has a place in my mind, CGI and practical.
I love Slimer
Still most of my favorite films are from the 80's !
as always a great job, this show is better than ever please more and more superman haha.
Robert Downey jr invented slimer!
I disagree with a lot of people here. CGI can be just effective in film as practical effects. Look at Jurassic Park, for example. The practical effects were, of course, god-tier by Stan Winston, but the CGI was puppeteer by an input rig that was a hybrid between Stan Winston's remote-controls and Phil Tippet's stop motion animation. The end result was very realistic and organic moving CGI in combination with Winston's practical effects. Food for thought.
I know he was loosely based on Belushi in part, But I wonder what the Slimer character was like when he was alive. LOL Must have been an interesting guy huh?
They need to find a way of putting that human touch back into FX laden films, Those human hands involved just put a sense of life into things, even when very basic. Most CGI still leaves a synthetic aftertaste in the brain. I think most know what I am talking about there.
Yup.
don't worry the third one is coming, sony pictures approved it
i don't mind cgi but I'm more a fan to hand drawn animation, practical effects and puppets
He slimed me.
AFTERLIFE is gonna rule
Fuck all the haters! Slimer is awesome! He's the ultimate party animal and the ultimate sidekick. Who's with me?
Lycan Seijin I agree on what you just said and I’m with you
@rotwang2000
Because some traditional effects look bad too. In Ghostbusters, for example, there are some scenes that (IMO) would have looked better if they were done with CGI, like Dana's transformation on top of the tower.
Ghostbusters is the absolute pinnacle of "Great-Movies". (Among others of course but for me, it's #1 by far!) I really hope Danny & Bill get #3 going without the HollyWood bullshit trying to get its hands in there like #2.
#LONGLIVEGHOSTBUSTERS
@RogerRabid I agree with you. Sure it takes more time but CGI shouldn't be used when costumes, makeup and animatronics will work just as well and even more realistically! Too much CGI in a movie shows laziness.
Well yeah, that's a given. But the point is that as an art form, CGI is still on par with practical effects and stop motion. There was crappy stop motion and practical effects just as well. Lord of the Rings and Jurassic Park are two movies that nailed the CGI pretty well and believably, it's just that studios have a tendency to chose the cheap option. But CGI isn't always doomed to failure, it's just expensive.
you are awesome! If sony asked you to in some way work on Ghostbusters 3 would you? Id rather have the real film making puppets and miniatures and all that stuff back into the movies.. So sick of all this "digital age" nothing is real i cant think "how'd they do that' cause its just all done with computers now.
The new movie was garbage partly because of exactly of what he is talking about in this clip.
All digital Fx look like shit. The best is incorporating the two art forms and it looks great when done right.
slimer is aosom
I think CGI's good but there have a lot incidiences in the movies where CGI has been used when it wasn't even necessary. Besides lots of CGI effects lately look so cheap and unreal to me. It's also putting sculptors, costume designers/makers and makeup artists for the movies out of work. Besides some of the best work to be proud of is the kind that gets your hands dirty. CGI should only be used when no other alternative will work!
Jurrasic Park was amazing and revolutionary, but there have been produced so much crappy CGI.
wow. He had to go and spam at the end? His GOAL is to make more $. Was a cool vid till then.
CGI is just an extra tool. Why not get rid of computer editing and go back to doing it all in camera, rewinding film as they did a century ago ?
CGI as a tool can do so many things very easily, just as practical effects can do stuff much more easily and cheaply than CGI. It's just a matter of finding the right balance.