I've been doing 2nd subharmonics for a while now, so I'll try and drop off some of my tips for doing them here. First of all, you MUST be able to hold a regular subharmonic note cleanly and easily. You should not be forcing it or else you won't be able to flip it down again. You also should warm up with some low, gentle scales. Then try scales in subharmonics (don't worry if you have a tiny range). You're going to look for a note which is relatively high in your subharmonic range (I started somewhere between c3 and d3 when I was doing this), otherwise your 2nd subharmonic will be too low for you to bring out yet. Now that you've got your note, sing it on an "oh" vowel, or whatever feels like it will be the least effort to hold, and slip into the 1st subharmonic (I highly recommend using a piano or something to give you the 2nd subharmonic pitch when you practice this). Now that you're here, it's crucial that you DO NOT mess with the larynx to go lower. Keep it still. The only thing changing is the differential vibration of the vocal chords. To make this happen, imagine a sliding scale with 1 being full fry, 5 being subharmonics, and 10 being modal voice. 2nd subharmonics seem to exist around 3. So try and inject a tiny bit of fry into your subharmonic note. Some people I've shown this to will flip down almost automatically when doing this, others won't, so don't worry if you still don't have it. Another way to find it is to start singing in the subharmonic note rather than starting from modal voice. Imagine you're starting somewhere closer to fry. You want your 1st subharmonic to have a "dirty", rather uncontrolled mix of fry and modal voice near the beginning which is closer to fry than modal voice (remember, do all of this gently!). Now, do that low-mix-to-subharmonic thing several times, each time transitioning from the low mix to the subharmonic slower and slower. You may find that your voice will waver on a 2nd subharmonic for a moment before jumping up to your subharmonic. Another note, I found imagining that since getting a clean first 1st subharmonic feels like balancing on a knife's edge at first, the 2nd subharmonic is no different. If you don't get it even in the first few weeks, just keep working at it. It can be difficult to hit, and even after "getting it", you'll still have days where you just can't seem to hit a 2nd at all. Let's say you've now got a tentative 2nd subharmonic. It's somewhat stable, but it's also super quiet and it feels like your air is forced to come out even slower to prevent it from flipping back to the 1st subharmonic. To increase volume, I recommend you take a method from the 1st subharmonic: think of it as a mix rather than a fry or its own thing. The modal voice on top gives the volume, and without it your subharmonic will lack color and volume. Extend this to the 2nd subharmonic by imagining it as a mix between fry and the 1st subharmonic where the 1st subharmonic is giving volume and the fry is giving the extra depth (don't forget that the modal voice is still strong on top here! It hasn't and should not dissappear when you do 2nd subharmonics). You need them to work together and interplay, not become one thing. Even if it sounds like the 1st subharmonic is overpowering the 2nd, you might be surprised if you listen back bc deep, resonant, loud subharmonic always feels like it's heavier than it should be on the top, not heavy on the bottom. Hopefully those tips help! I'm thinking of posting my own video demonstrating these tips and any others that pop into my head, so you can look at my channel for when I eventually get something like that out. I don't have any newer vids of my 2nd subharmonic, but there's a stairwell video from a month or two ago where I demonstrate 2nd subharmonics at some point. I forget when in the video tho bc it's 7 minutes of various clips in the stairwell, but it's somewhere in there. Good luck and safe practicing! And David, would the brand new technique you mention at the very end happen to be inhale fry?
Also, here's audio of a guy cleanly hitting the 4th subharmonic. The website is German, but you'll find it near an image of a spectrogram. www.oberton.org/obertongesang/untertongesang/strohbass/
that's a great help dude, if you get to working on this do start on the 1st subharmonic as well, good tutorials about these things are very hard to find
@@spencerchapman9327 That happens to me sometimes if I overwork my voice or try jumping right in without warming up. It can be cool to hit those low notes, but if it even feels for a second that it hurts or is irritating, rest your voice, drink warm water or tea, and wait until your 1st subharmonics come back. Singing in your higher range could also help clear it up too. Tho if doesn't hurt or feel like it's doing any damage, then maybe you've got something good there. Either way, take care of your voice and cultivate those notes and make them sound great
So glad you posted this! I found out about this extension through a friend and posted a demonstration video a week or two on it so I’m pumped that more info is being spread on this
Using what I've learned from you I've been able to push my limits so I can sing from C2 to D#1 now Thanks to you I pretty much gained an extra lower octave!
David plz read my comment carefully since it's going to be very INFORMATIVE!!! As a singer/ beatboxer, I'm still amazed at how barriers regarding bass singing can be so strong between singing and bbx worlds. I learned the subharmonics singing technique via ur videos at the very beginning and thanks a lot for that. Just when I felt proud that I could reach the 1st register, I became interested in bbx and began watching countless bbx videos. I was so SHOCKED that EVERY SINGLE FAMOUS BBXer had access to the 1st register, some even MASTERED 4, 5 or even more DIFFERENT techniques. In other words, they could CHOOSE different timbres to match the music genre. Back to the topic, this 2nd Subharmonic phenomenon has already been studied and added to bbxers' arsenal. In bbx scenes, the relationship between [Throat Bass] vs [Vibration bass] is the same as [1st subharmonic] vs [2nd]. When u hear how powerfully and steadily those bbxers can generate super-low notes, u'll probably feel discouraged as I did. Though I can say that subharmonics singing has the least aggressive timbre among all, which best suits choirs. For those who are interested, bbxers also utilize tongues and lips to generate low notes and the timbres are fascinating. My favorite one is called "Subbass liproll" or "inward liproll".
Here are some bbx BASS GODS imo: Beatness from the next level acapella group "Berywam"; Codfish; Inertia; Audical; B-art. u guys can search their names on youtube and check them out! P.S. search this video "MTS | INSANE VOCAL BASS!!! (You Won't Believe What You Hear) " to hear and compare [Throat Bass] vs [Vibration bass] in the first line of his performance. The lyric is "bururure I bururure love bururure beatboxing bururure". The first two "bururure" are throat bass and the other two are vibration bass.
I've actually sang the 3rd subharmonic back when I was practicing heavy, believe it or not. I was able to vocalize down to a D1 starting at a D3. You really have to relax your note even further beyond that 2nd subharmonic to make it show up, though. It's very elusive, but when you encounter it, it's amazing!
i watched the whole vid and was like "ok so he's explaining it'll take a while before I get it and some background theory on it, alright , i already know this" "well make sure to subscribe" "wait wtf that was it? when did he explain anything?" I can understand somewhat how you're doing this from your other video but I can't figure out how to do it myself after months of trying, you explain it more like an idea than an actual method. Is it possible to make a more detailed video on this? What I gathere from here is just "let your voice flip naturally" how? through what? are there exercises for it?
Imagine your doing the thing in the grudge were you kind of put pressure on your voice box itself when breathing out air and then singing a note with the same octave but higher than the "grudge" part of it. Or at least that's how I do it but I havent gotten really good at it yet
Idk, but with regular harmonics you have to make your mouth/throat a certain shape, I know it's the same general principal as playing one on guitar. Although I honestly thought the root note was the lowest. I know harmonics are always there though so if you can hear it a little bit you can make adjustments to bring it out.
I actually made a post on the singing subreddit a couple days ago asking about this, because I accidentally slipped into the second subharmonic while practicing my control over the first after watching your other subharmonic videos. I had never seen anything online about it, so I'm glad you made this!
It actually happened when I was following your first videos instructions and I was like “oh my god that’s like looking in a mirror there’s a whole world below !!!” Thanks for sharing your techniques it helped me a lot !
Hot dang, wasn't expecting a video at this time of night! I've actually been working on this for a few months now, but I don't have nearly the volume or tone that you have. I eagerly await what you show next
Throat bass and subharmonic register are actually two different basses, vocodah! Throat bass uses the false vocal chords vibrating along with the true vocal chords and is the same vocal technique as tuvan kargyraa throat singing. Subharmonic register is a bass that only uses the true vocal chords, it is a blend of outward vocal fry and modal voice/chest voice simultaneously. Both result in a tone 1 octave lower than the modal voice‘s tone, the difference is throat bass is a lot more pressure, constriction in certain parts of the larynx, subharmonic register bass is almost tensionless by comparison, much smoother in timbre, sounds more just like your true voice but pitched down an octave.
I really stopped looking at this, to look at a David Larson video--so I could learn the subharmonics again...only realize that THIS IS David Larson. You look so different.
Is going down to the second subharmonic set the same as the first, where you relax your voice? I’ve been working on this for a couple months, and I just want to say thank you for sharing this with us. My brother and I have been trying to find resources on this for YEARS.
Yes, it is similar, and thinking of it in that way is an excellent analogy. There's a bit more to it, but you can read my tips comment for the particulars
David Larson, you're at the forefront of Subharmonic techniques. You've made a generation of subharmonic bass singers. You are the posterboy for it. You will lead us to the bass singer revolution! I hope you gather a choir of subharmonic singers and create a nice ethereal E1 or a A0.
It all makes sense now, i only get to F2# with my chest voice morning voice D2# but with subharmonics i get to G1# but sometimes when i play around with higher subharmonics to close the gap between my chest voice and my subs it drops even lower though it is only in short raspy bursts i got down to C1 pretty fun to play around with it since my chest voice is so high, it really feels different!
I discovered subharmonics when I learned how to do kargyraa. After a while I figured out a 2nd subharmonic kargyraa (Vibration Bass so called), but then i did a 3rd degree of that, and I've never seen any of a kind anywhere in the internet. It's so low that sounds like taken straight from the earthquake, or Mordor :DD I know that there's distinction between regular subharmonic singing and kargyraa subharmonics, but if you are interested bro, I can share.
I’d love to hear this I’ve never heard any use the third subharmonic level of throat bass under vibration bass. Ik David originally mistakenly called indicator’s poly sub bass the “3rd subharmonic of throat bass”, but we all eventually learned that indicator’s bass is actually based off of the subharmonic register bass, specifically the 3rd level of the subharmonic register, not the throat bass ‘ subharmonic 3rd level. Even David himself corrected this later, I can do poly sub bass, subharmonic register 1st level, throat bass, and vibration bass all myself to some degree of proficiency and I can confirm all this as well. Plus indicator made a tutorial on his poly sub bass showing how this is not related to throat bass at all. Given that, after learning about it all, I still always wondered in my head if there was anyone out there who could actually do the true 3rd subharmonic of throat bass, and if so, what exactly it would sound like. If you’re still into beatboxing or able to do this bass, I would be super interested to hear it or hear you describe it and how it’s done
Congrats David. You broke my brain and my throat. I was able to reach an Ab1 with subharmonic after a lot of time (started at a Cb1 iirc about 2 months ago) and then learned how to do 2nd subs somewhat consistently. Now EVERY DANG TIME I try to do an A1 or Ab1, my throat instantly says "Ah, it is 2nd sub time" and goes down to an E/Eb1. My brain now hates me
It's amazing how loud your subharmonics are! I'm a 17yo female and the lowest note I get is usually around B2 so I've been practising subharmonics. Right now I don't have much control over it so I mostly switch back and forth from the chest note to subharmonic and I feel like I have to sing really quietly but I'm looking forward to being able to 'lock' the subharmonic and sing loudly!
Depending on what you're going for you could also look into polyphonic overtones. There's a female singer named Diana Ankudinova who is an expert at subharmonics, even belting with it.
Hi David! Can you explain specifically what you are doing to achieve this? Your 3:41 is vague at best, I'm sure we folks clicking on your vid would like some clarity about how you're creating these sounds? I didn't learn anything from your video but I'm intrigued about the example that starts it off. Please explain?
Hi Dan - I made the (wrong) assumption that the people on my channel already knew about subharmonics enough to the point where this technique might be an extension of what they have already learned. I made a number of tutorials on subharmonic singing 4-5 years ago, and since then many people have posted about it on forums, RUclips, Facebook...etc. Although it seems I still have some clarification work to do 😅 Anyways - in the most concise way I can describe it - subharmonic singing is basically organized vocal fry. Subharmonic tones are a result of your vocal folds vibrating at different, yet precise rates. Just like with a pipe organ or any other tonal instrument - combining tones in a precise manner results in a "resultant pitch". In this case - your vocal folds are phonating a dominant tonic pitch (D3) and secondary perfect 5th (A3). The resultant subharmonic of combining these two tones is one octave below the tonic (D2). I strongly suggest trying this out with a harmonica & your voice. Blow a note on the harmonica and simultaneous sing a fifth above that note. You will hear a loud sub octave sounding! As far as the technique in this video - the 2nd subharmonic - it's the same concept. (Although I forget the pitches required to make an octave + 5th below. Tonic + Perfect 4th maybe?) Anyways, on how to enter into this "register": imagine singing a pitch somewhere around a fifth above your lowest chest voice note. Hold this note, but while you are holding it you are going to allow some fry to creep in. Don't aim for the sub-octave. Allow the fry to vibrate through the pitch you are singing. It is very important to keep the airflow going and sustain the tonic. Eventually you will feel/hear the sub octave crack in and out. It sounds like alien noises at first - but eventually you gain control and power over it. My earlier videos on this technique are not fantastic, but they have helped many people find this register. I strongly suggest perusing those if you are still having trouble. I'm not a voice instructor - I restore classic cars & antique motorcycles for a living. I try to research and stay up on the things I'm discussing, but in all honesty I make these videos because people like them & because no one else has had much internet success trying to teach this technique 🤷♂️ Long comment, but I had a lot to say! Thanks!
Thanks to this I can finally sing an E#4 - Fb1 now
5 лет назад+6
After I found your first video, I went looking for more resources, and found this article (I'll post in the next comment of this one gets blocked), where a guy went down to a fifth subsonic (resulting in a frequency of 1/5 the fundamental)! But I don't really see a point there. A bass singer could hit that same note with the first subsonic. Im still early in this, but now I can sing my 1st subsonics, and I'm really proud and excited about it! I can hit around E1 while still sounding like a tone. Anything lower than that sounds too fry'y. I also noticed, that while practicing subharmonics, I can now hit also lower notes with chest voice! Before I couldn't sing D2#. Now sometimes I can even sing C2!
5 лет назад+1
And here is the link to the article: bass2yang.com/how-to-sing-subharmonics-1/
@ In my same experience - anything below E1 loses a lot of color-value. I think the size of our vocal folds (instrument) in combination with the size of our heads (resonating chamber) limits how much volume and color we can produce using subharmonics on any note below an E1.
5 лет назад+3
I also found useful Android app: vocal pitch monitor. It plots the main frequency of the sound you sing, you can easily see when you drop into it, or when you fall out of it.
I listend to the demonstration, it sounds like he actually only goes down to the fourth level subharmonic, but they call it the fifth level on this website for some reason, maybe because of translation issues or maybe because of divergent cultural conceptions of what level “1” would be, like maybe he’s thinking level 1 was the fundamental tone meaning the fourth subharmonic level for him of the subharmonic register and to the writer of the article may be “fifth level”, kinda like how in France, what we call the “ground floor”, “first floor” or “first level” in USA and level 2 as the next floor above that, they call “rez-de-chausez” for the level on the ground and “prèmiére-étage” for the floor above this, literally meaning “first level”, because in French culture I guess, the second floor gets counted as the “first level” above the ground level, they just don’t call ground Level first floor like we do in USA. Anyways, really cool little gem you found on subharmonics and “strohbass”, I found it really fascinating how the fourth subharmonic level, just like the undertone series, was a major third underneath the two-octaves-under-the-fundamental’s tone, or A flat under C. Damn a MAJOR third, since it’s the inversion of the overtone series. But still, it’s one thing to know it in theory, and another to hear it demonstrated out in the world, and by a human voice, not just any instrument, no less! Thank you for sharing, friend 🙏🔥❤️ much love and support to our vocal brothers and sisters from the beatbox community, I love learning about these amazing human voice techniques, the human voice is magic!!
"Soon, Grasshopper, I will teach you my final, secret, and most powerful singing technique." This is actually a teaser trailer for 'Pai Mei - The Musical'.
I really struggle with subharmonics I tend to miss it everytime im not sure why I’m practicing all the time I’ve seen all your videos and love them fella😁
I got to be honest. I didn’t even know about sub harmonics until today, but I’ve been doing it for half a year now. I even reach the 2nd with no problem. 😂
This is like when you strike the lowest note on a piano and you don't hear the actual frequency until after the harmonics produced within the apparatus. AO actually causes 3 more octaves to engage
Finally, a bass singing tips after awhile. This is why I'm subscribed. But I have a question, is it possible to go to the 3rd subharmonic register from the 2nd?
It is! The lowest I've gone is the 4th. I will try recording a video of a 3rd subharmonic sometime, but it's tough to control. The 3rd sub is 1 octave below the first, so it can actually be pretty useful (If I used it in the first clip it would have been D3-D2-G1-D1) The lowest level subharmonic I've heard recorded is the 7th. It was done by Leonard Fuks - can't remember the notes but I know he started pretty high.
Started toying around with subharmonics yesterday. Have a fairly low voice already, can hit a G1 through 1st subharmonic. Tried 2nd subharmonic today, started at a D2 and was able to sneak a G1 out through that. Not too hard after you know what your going for! Definitely associate vocal fry with Tina's whining on Bob's Burgers lol
I discovered this by accident when practicing the 1st subharmonic, but it was very weak. Didn't know it was actually a legit thing you could make sound just as powerful!
I actually discovered this technique by accident by singing 1st order subharmonics, and sometimes I slip from 1st to 2nd order without wanting to. It's really annoying, because I cannot control well either of them!
I figured i can do subharmics with vocal fry, which extends my range to a C0 since I can vocal fry to a C1. But I wouldn't be able to hear that note cause it's below 20 hertz. I also recently figured out how to do a 2nd subharmonic. It's pretty fun tbh.
Kitbuilt nice catch, sounds like he was trying hard to focus，given how hard the technique is, twas really sturdy sounding...pulsing happens a lot to me even when singing the first layer, especially when my heart is beating fast, it sounds like a vibrato with extended breaks...
i didnt notice. there have been times when i go 1st my heart beat and blood preassure affects. to the point where I have balanced the breath preassure so little and cords light enough. that my chords would only crackle a few times in sync with my heart beat. like the heart expands enough to add a wee more preassure. that being said. this was only ever audible to me under my breath. I should've used a mic.
I like to use mongolian throat singing for bass/baritone singing
5 лет назад+2
Question about the volume. Are singing your chest voice note quieter? My subharmonic notes are noticably quieter, all of yours seems equally loud. Anytime I increase the volume of subharmonic, I just fall out of it. Practice?
Excellent video David, the second subharmonic is very difficult to achieve, and the third subharmonic I’ve only been able to lock in a few times. Have you experimented with the different harmonics while using karygraa? It’s a much rougher sound, but it’s also more reliable.
CB.S No, that style still uses an octave. What I’m referring to is using karygraa but the pitch being produced by the vestibular folds is an octave and a fifth (or 2 octaves) below the pitch being produced by the regular vocal folds.
I too am curious if David uses kargyraa at all. I've been working on that and other khoomei techniques for the last few years, and wonder if they can be used for SH in some way.
@@baileycarroll7711 that's insane! You can do around an octave lower with this method. I barely here of people who can sing lower than an A0 but a D0 that's just insane!
I knew how subharmonics worked, and I actually reached the 2nd subharmonic trying this a couple of times without knowing about this video. not well though, I still need to get a solid tone on the 1st harmonic. I'm not even really a singer lol I'm a synthesist, I just love bassy shit
I have a great bass voice(lowest chest voice note most days is a D2) and I can already do the first subharmonic so I don’t know if the second subharmonic will be even noticeable as a distinct pitch because of how low it would be 😂😂
I mean I taught myself to do this without watching the video but I have no idea how to explain it. I want ways to improve tone so I can use it well in songs. U sound pretty good but I think the echo helps.
Hey David. I myself have been learning and practicing subharmonics myself. I was curious though because I was only focusing on the first, because as you said you need the first to get the second, and I was hitting Gb1 and A1, but you hit those in your second. Is it possible for me to get this low in the first subharmonic, or is there some funny stuff going on?
So this is like DBZ. Grow hair long = become stronger, sing deeper. Super Saiyan Deep! (like Tim Foust, Avi, David Larson, David Kahn, so on and so on.) :P digging the long hair !
I learned throat singing from beatboxers and thanks to you I discovered and learned how to hit the 2nd subharmonic.. I'm now wondering how false chord scream/growl works, do you have any suggestions?
I am 17 and not very trained in the whole bass singing "section" With what note do you count as a bass? I can get a good e2 and an d2 which is my last possible chest voice note right now
Voice type is more about tessitura, ie. which range is most natural, and tone, than range taken alone. If your voice lays low and sounds low, there's a good chance you're a bass regardless of how low you can get.
Is the technique you're planning to share the same one David uses to get that C1 in the Elvis musical he posted on his channel, or is he just that beastly of a vocalist? 😂 Anyway, love this video and your other content. Can't wait to see what this new technique you're mentioning is all about
I have made this same mistake on occasion. It's important to let it "fall" down the 5th instead of aiming for it. Let the note slide out - don't force it. Good luck!
@@johntangggg Yes! Especially when your voice is getting a little tired. I've noticed that sometimes later at night I have a hard time sustaining the 1st SH because the 2nd keeps trying to pop in.
I have 2 things I'd like to learn from you, thanks for this one by the way. I'd like to learn how to ingressive Vocal fry, and I'd like to learn how to Mage the subs cleaner, mine don't have a strong sub tone.
Its strange becuase ican "pop" into a b1, but sliding into a b1 from a b2 is hard, and i can hit the e1 after a little practice. Still working on it though. I want to sing Geoffs oogie song. lol
Thanks to your videos I managed to hit from c2 to g1 with subharmonics when with chest voice every note under f2 has always sounded weak and unresonant. Keep it up
So... How to gain control? Cause like I can sometimes just very naturally hit a subharmonic note without even thinking about it, but then other times I have a really hard time doing anything at all... Like just a couple minutes ago I was able to hit a G#1 down to a D1 barely, but I had no consistency and barely any control...
This man just decided to turn into a foghorn in the beginning
It's one of my favorite hobbies
@@davidlarson3905 I can tell!
@@davidlarson3905 What was the note you hit?
@@rooboo9240 Eb3 Eb2 Ab1
Lol
“Undertone series is infinite”, learns the 100th subharmonic and sings a Cb -69 with the power of a C3
XD
Blows over walls in a 420 mile radius.
That would be 1 click of the vocal folds per 600 billion years :D
@@sweet_krona geez
@@sweet_krona /r/theydidthemath
The lower the hair the lower the notes, I gotcha!
i mean yeah
Geoff, Tim , avriel
Yes and the same for girls!! Wait...
Then I already have a good head start beat most guys by 6 years of hair growth lol
😂
Get ready once Geoff learns this lmao
Oh fuuuck no he's a demon already
he actually mentioned it in a video, but he says he's happy with the current 1st subharmonic extension and doesn't plan studying the 2nd :D
The earth will melt
@@Skiddlescout true true
@@Erumer Its because the overtones become more present every subharmonic level you go up.
I've been doing 2nd subharmonics for a while now, so I'll try and drop off some of my tips for doing them here.
First of all, you MUST be able to hold a regular subharmonic note cleanly and easily. You should not be forcing it or else you won't be able to flip it down again. You also should warm up with some low, gentle scales. Then try scales in subharmonics (don't worry if you have a tiny range). You're going to look for a note which is relatively high in your subharmonic range (I started somewhere between c3 and d3 when I was doing this), otherwise your 2nd subharmonic will be too low for you to bring out yet.
Now that you've got your note, sing it on an "oh" vowel, or whatever feels like it will be the least effort to hold, and slip into the 1st subharmonic (I highly recommend using a piano or something to give you the 2nd subharmonic pitch when you practice this). Now that you're here, it's crucial that you DO NOT mess with the larynx to go lower. Keep it still. The only thing changing is the differential vibration of the vocal chords. To make this happen, imagine a sliding scale with 1 being full fry, 5 being subharmonics, and 10 being modal voice. 2nd subharmonics seem to exist around 3. So try and inject a tiny bit of fry into your subharmonic note. Some people I've shown this to will flip down almost automatically when doing this, others won't, so don't worry if you still don't have it.
Another way to find it is to start singing in the subharmonic note rather than starting from modal voice. Imagine you're starting somewhere closer to fry. You want your 1st subharmonic to have a "dirty", rather uncontrolled mix of fry and modal voice near the beginning which is closer to fry than modal voice (remember, do all of this gently!). Now, do that low-mix-to-subharmonic thing several times, each time transitioning from the low mix to the subharmonic slower and slower. You may find that your voice will waver on a 2nd subharmonic for a moment before jumping up to your subharmonic.
Another note, I found imagining that since getting a clean first 1st subharmonic feels like balancing on a knife's edge at first, the 2nd subharmonic is no different. If you don't get it even in the first few weeks, just keep working at it. It can be difficult to hit, and even after "getting it", you'll still have days where you just can't seem to hit a 2nd at all.
Let's say you've now got a tentative 2nd subharmonic. It's somewhat stable, but it's also super quiet and it feels like your air is forced to come out even slower to prevent it from flipping back to the 1st subharmonic. To increase volume, I recommend you take a method from the 1st subharmonic: think of it as a mix rather than a fry or its own thing. The modal voice on top gives the volume, and without it your subharmonic will lack color and volume. Extend this to the 2nd subharmonic by imagining it as a mix between fry and the 1st subharmonic where the 1st subharmonic is giving volume and the fry is giving the extra depth (don't forget that the modal voice is still strong on top here! It hasn't and should not dissappear when you do 2nd subharmonics). You need them to work together and interplay, not become one thing. Even if it sounds like the 1st subharmonic is overpowering the 2nd, you might be surprised if you listen back bc deep, resonant, loud subharmonic always feels like it's heavier than it should be on the top, not heavy on the bottom.
Hopefully those tips help! I'm thinking of posting my own video demonstrating these tips and any others that pop into my head, so you can look at my channel for when I eventually get something like that out. I don't have any newer vids of my 2nd subharmonic, but there's a stairwell video from a month or two ago where I demonstrate 2nd subharmonics at some point. I forget when in the video tho bc it's 7 minutes of various clips in the stairwell, but it's somewhere in there. Good luck and safe practicing!
And David, would the brand new technique you mention at the very end happen to be inhale fry?
Also, here's audio of a guy cleanly hitting the 4th subharmonic. The website is German, but you'll find it near an image of a spectrogram. www.oberton.org/obertongesang/untertongesang/strohbass/
that's a great help dude, if you get to working on this do start on the 1st subharmonic as well, good tutorials about these things are very hard to find
So I’ve started practicing the 2nd set, but now I’ve lost the 1st. I just go straight into the 2nd. What am I doing?
@@spencerchapman9327 That happens to me sometimes if I overwork my voice or try jumping right in without warming up. It can be cool to hit those low notes, but if it even feels for a second that it hurts or is irritating, rest your voice, drink warm water or tea, and wait until your 1st subharmonics come back. Singing in your higher range could also help clear it up too. Tho if doesn't hurt or feel like it's doing any damage, then maybe you've got something good there. Either way, take care of your voice and cultivate those notes and make them sound great
@@abb5643 bro... That video you linked too just freaking blew my mind....
So glad you posted this! I found out about this extension through a friend and posted a demonstration video a week or two on it so I’m pumped that more info is being spread on this
4 years ago jesus
I want to hear the legendary third subharmonic
Jan Heinke on RUclips
Here you go!
drive.google.com/file/d/1PJ2DglfnDhfWXUtcKVnaskLgOZfe0onG/view?usp=drivesdk
@@Max_Matrix God damn you xD but funny :P
@@JenoSnetrem what is so funny? That is the actual legendary third (and fourth) subharmonic.
@@Max_Matrix Really? It sounds completely autotuned to me...
homie sounds like a bassoon in the beginning lol
Yeah bro its siiiick
For real,gives me chills in my lower back,insane
I just can't stop replaying the first 12 seconds.
Using what I've learned from you I've been able to push my limits so I can sing from C2 to D#1 now
Thanks to you I pretty much gained an extra lower octave!
I went from F#1 to D1
*Feelin' good!*
Oh my god can’t wait to test that out 😍
Yeah bro hope it works well for you 🔥🔥
Ayeeee, a great beatboxer on some David Larson/oktavism vids. LET'S GO!
Esh
The dude is awesome singer indeed. Btw please don't take Our Lord's Name in vain. Peace man!
I didn't know this comment existed
Nobody:
Spongebob Intro: 0:07
Bruh way to tickle our balls with the ultimate cliffhanger
Lmao
David plz read my comment carefully since it's going to be very INFORMATIVE!!! As a singer/ beatboxer, I'm still amazed at how barriers regarding bass singing can be so strong between singing and bbx worlds. I learned the subharmonics singing technique via ur videos at the very beginning and thanks a lot for that. Just when I felt proud that I could reach the 1st register, I became interested in bbx and began watching countless bbx videos. I was so SHOCKED that EVERY SINGLE FAMOUS BBXer had access to the 1st register, some even MASTERED 4, 5 or even more DIFFERENT techniques. In other words, they could CHOOSE different timbres to match the music genre. Back to the topic, this 2nd Subharmonic phenomenon has already been studied and added to bbxers' arsenal. In bbx scenes, the relationship between [Throat Bass] vs [Vibration bass] is the same as [1st subharmonic] vs [2nd]. When u hear how powerfully and steadily those bbxers can generate super-low notes, u'll probably feel discouraged as I did. Though I can say that subharmonics singing has the least aggressive timbre among all, which best suits choirs. For those who are interested, bbxers also utilize tongues and lips to generate low notes and the timbres are fascinating. My favorite one is called "Subbass liproll" or "inward liproll".
Here are some bbx BASS GODS imo:
Beatness from the next level acapella group "Berywam"; Codfish; Inertia; Audical; B-art.
u guys can search their names on youtube and check them out!
P.S. search this video "MTS | INSANE VOCAL BASS!!! (You Won't Believe What You Hear)
" to hear and compare [Throat Bass] vs [Vibration bass] in the first line of his performance. The lyric is "bururure I bururure love bururure beatboxing bururure". The first two "bururure" are throat bass and the other two are vibration bass.
It's a very intersting topic.
Got this on my second day of learning subharmonics! All you gotta do is relax your voice even more when you get the first sub note.
bro huh? how
@@Ashton-gh9yx try singing the same note but slowing the vibrations down
@@andrewcamagay6255 Any other tips for first subharmonic?
@@Ashton-gh9yx practice a lot (but not too much), and basically just follow the guide he gave in his other video :)
I've actually sang the 3rd subharmonic back when I was practicing heavy, believe it or not. I was able to vocalize down to a D1 starting at a D3. You really have to relax your note even further beyond that 2nd subharmonic to make it show up, though. It's very elusive, but when you encounter it, it's amazing!
i watched the whole vid and was like "ok so he's explaining it'll take a while before I get it and some background theory on it, alright
, i already know this"
"well make sure to subscribe"
"wait wtf that was it? when did he explain anything?"
I can understand somewhat how you're doing this from your other video but I can't figure out how to do it myself after months of trying, you explain it more like an idea than an actual method. Is it possible to make a more detailed video on this? What I gathere from here is just "let your voice flip naturally" how? through what? are there exercises for it?
Imagine your doing the thing in the grudge were you kind of put pressure on your voice box itself when breathing out air and then singing a note with the same octave but higher than the "grudge" part of it. Or at least that's how I do it but I havent gotten really good at it yet
if you're saying you cant access subharmonics at all then just work on that first then this video will make more sense
if you're saying you cant access subharmonics at all then just work on that first then this video will make more sense
Idk, but with regular harmonics you have to make your mouth/throat a certain shape, I know it's the same general principal as playing one on guitar. Although I honestly thought the root note was the lowest. I know harmonics are always there though so if you can hear it a little bit you can make adjustments to bring it out.
I'm reading about it now, so it's not the same as a harmonic in that it's already occurring in the note. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Undertone_series
I actually made a post on the singing subreddit a couple days ago asking about this, because I accidentally slipped into the second subharmonic while practicing my control over the first after watching your other subharmonic videos. I had never seen anything online about it, so I'm glad you made this!
It actually happened when I was following your first videos instructions and I was like “oh my god that’s like looking in a mirror there’s a whole world below !!!” Thanks for sharing your techniques it helped me a lot !
Hot dang, wasn't expecting a video at this time of night! I've actually been working on this for a few months now, but I don't have nearly the volume or tone that you have. I eagerly await what you show next
Damn that first few seconds was freakishly good.
Scary, but in a good way of that made sense lol
the first ones called throat bass homie. Welcome to the Beatbox Community! :)
Throat bass and subharmonic register are actually two different basses, vocodah! Throat bass uses the false vocal chords vibrating along with the true vocal chords and is the same vocal technique as tuvan kargyraa throat singing. Subharmonic register is a bass that only uses the true vocal chords, it is a blend of outward vocal fry and modal voice/chest voice simultaneously. Both result in a tone 1 octave lower than the modal voice‘s tone, the difference is throat bass is a lot more pressure, constriction in certain parts of the larynx, subharmonic register bass is almost tensionless by comparison, much smoother in timbre, sounds more just like your true voice but pitched down an octave.
The start reminds me of the Playststion 1 start sound 😂
DUDE THE CLIP SOUNDED LIKE A SHIP HORN.
I did this on accident while doing the first subharmonic once. It was super cool when it happened. Hard to control.
I really stopped looking at this, to look at a David Larson video--so I could learn the subharmonics again...only realize that THIS IS David Larson. You look so different.
Can’t wait to see what’s next bro keep up the good work. I really enjoy and appreciate your vids
I'm never gonna be able to get this down but I can sing that final note at the start with 1st subharmonics so I think I'm good 👍
Please, please, I want a video on the final mystery technique. Your bass singing tips have truly changed the way I view my voice. Thank you
That is insane! I want to learn this for Gregorian chant.
Okay. So, his voice is awesome, but can we also talk about his hair/facial hair combo?! I love it!! I'm growing mine out and this is goals, man!
Is going down to the second subharmonic set the same as the first, where you relax your voice? I’ve been working on this for a couple months, and I just want to say thank you for sharing this with us. My brother and I have been trying to find resources on this for YEARS.
I was wondering that too...
Yes, it is similar, and thinking of it in that way is an excellent analogy. There's a bit more to it, but you can read my tips comment for the particulars
David Larson, you're at the forefront of Subharmonic techniques.
You've made a generation of subharmonic bass singers. You are the posterboy for it. You will lead us to the bass singer revolution!
I hope you gather a choir of subharmonic singers and create a nice ethereal E1 or a A0.
Your voice sounds amazing!
It all makes sense now, i only get to F2# with my chest voice morning voice D2# but with subharmonics i get to G1# but sometimes when i play around with higher subharmonics to close the gap between my chest voice and my subs it drops even lower though it is only in short raspy bursts i got down to C1 pretty fun to play around with it since my chest voice is so high, it really feels different!
I discovered subharmonics when I learned how to do kargyraa. After a while I figured out a 2nd subharmonic kargyraa (Vibration Bass so called), but then i did a 3rd degree of that, and I've never seen any of a kind anywhere in the internet. It's so low that sounds like taken straight from the earthquake, or Mordor :DD I know that there's distinction between regular subharmonic singing and kargyraa subharmonics, but if you are interested bro, I can share.
I’d love to hear this I’ve never heard any use the third subharmonic level of throat bass under vibration bass. Ik David originally mistakenly called indicator’s poly sub bass the “3rd subharmonic of throat bass”, but we all eventually learned that indicator’s bass is actually based off of the subharmonic register bass, specifically the 3rd level of the subharmonic register, not the throat bass ‘ subharmonic 3rd level. Even David himself corrected this later, I can do poly sub bass, subharmonic register 1st level, throat bass, and vibration bass all myself to some degree of proficiency and I can confirm all this as well. Plus indicator made a tutorial on his poly sub bass showing how this is not related to throat bass at all. Given that, after learning about it all, I still always wondered in my head if there was anyone out there who could actually do the true 3rd subharmonic of throat bass, and if so, what exactly it would sound like. If you’re still into beatboxing or able to do this bass, I would be super interested to hear it or hear you describe it and how it’s done
Congrats David. You broke my brain and my throat. I was able to reach an Ab1 with subharmonic after a lot of time (started at a Cb1 iirc about 2 months ago) and then learned how to do 2nd subs somewhat consistently. Now EVERY DANG TIME I try to do an A1 or Ab1, my throat instantly says "Ah, it is 2nd sub time" and goes down to an E/Eb1. My brain now hates me
"You're about to be lost in about 5 seconds"
Homie you lost me at "subharmonics"
Man im so interested in bass singing tehniqes, tnx you inspire!
btw i tryed one of your tehniqes ruclips.net/video/uN9IXPAy-fQ/видео.html
It's amazing how loud your subharmonics are! I'm a 17yo female and the lowest note I get is usually around B2 so I've been practising subharmonics. Right now I don't have much control over it so I mostly switch back and forth from the chest note to subharmonic and I feel like I have to sing really quietly but I'm looking forward to being able to 'lock' the subharmonic and sing loudly!
Depending on what you're going for you could also look into polyphonic overtones. There's a female singer named Diana Ankudinova who is an expert at subharmonics, even belting with it.
Hi David! Can you explain specifically what you are doing to achieve this? Your 3:41 is vague at best, I'm sure we folks clicking on your vid would like some clarity about how you're creating these sounds? I didn't learn anything from your video but I'm intrigued about the example that starts it off. Please explain?
Hi Dan - I made the (wrong) assumption that the people on my channel already knew about subharmonics enough to the point where this technique might be an extension of what they have already learned. I made a number of tutorials on subharmonic singing 4-5 years ago, and since then many people have posted about it on forums, RUclips, Facebook...etc. Although it seems I still have some clarification work to do 😅
Anyways - in the most concise way I can describe it - subharmonic singing is basically organized vocal fry. Subharmonic tones are a result of your vocal folds vibrating at different, yet precise rates. Just like with a pipe organ or any other tonal instrument - combining tones in a precise manner results in a "resultant pitch". In this case - your vocal folds are phonating a dominant tonic pitch (D3) and secondary perfect 5th (A3). The resultant subharmonic of combining these two tones is one octave below the tonic (D2). I strongly suggest trying this out with a harmonica & your voice. Blow a note on the harmonica and simultaneous sing a fifth above that note. You will hear a loud sub octave sounding!
As far as the technique in this video - the 2nd subharmonic - it's the same concept. (Although I forget the pitches required to make an octave + 5th below. Tonic + Perfect 4th maybe?)
Anyways, on how to enter into this "register": imagine singing a pitch somewhere around a fifth above your lowest chest voice note. Hold this note, but while you are holding it you are going to allow some fry to creep in. Don't aim for the sub-octave. Allow the fry to vibrate through the pitch you are singing. It is very important to keep the airflow going and sustain the tonic. Eventually you will feel/hear the sub octave crack in and out. It sounds like alien noises at first - but eventually you gain control and power over it.
My earlier videos on this technique are not fantastic, but they have helped many people find this register. I strongly suggest perusing those if you are still having trouble.
I'm not a voice instructor - I restore classic cars & antique motorcycles for a living. I try to research and stay up on the things I'm discussing, but in all honesty I make these videos because people like them & because no one else has had much internet success trying to teach this technique 🤷♂️
Long comment, but I had a lot to say!
Thanks!
Thanks to this I can finally sing an E#4 - Fb1 now
After I found your first video, I went looking for more resources, and found this article (I'll post in the next comment of this one gets blocked), where a guy went down to a fifth subsonic (resulting in a frequency of 1/5 the fundamental)! But I don't really see a point there. A bass singer could hit that same note with the first subsonic.
Im still early in this, but now I can sing my 1st subsonics, and I'm really proud and excited about it! I can hit around E1 while still sounding like a tone. Anything lower than that sounds too fry'y.
I also noticed, that while practicing subharmonics, I can now hit also lower notes with chest voice! Before I couldn't sing D2#. Now sometimes I can even sing C2!
And here is the link to the article: bass2yang.com/how-to-sing-subharmonics-1/
@ In my same experience - anything below E1 loses a lot of color-value. I think the size of our vocal folds (instrument) in combination with the size of our heads (resonating chamber) limits how much volume and color we can produce using subharmonics on any note below an E1.
I also found useful Android app: vocal pitch monitor. It plots the main frequency of the sound you sing, you can easily see when you drop into it, or when you fall out of it.
Māris Samats.. that’s pretty snazzy,! I’ve been using a chromatic tuner I use for piano tuning... now I have a new toy...
I listend to the demonstration, it sounds like he actually only goes down to the fourth level subharmonic, but they call it the fifth level on this website for some reason, maybe because of translation issues or maybe because of divergent cultural conceptions of what level “1” would be, like maybe he’s thinking level 1 was the fundamental tone meaning the fourth subharmonic level for him of the subharmonic register and to the writer of the article may be “fifth level”, kinda like how in France, what we call the “ground floor”, “first floor” or “first level” in USA and level 2 as the next floor above that, they call “rez-de-chausez” for the level on the ground and “prèmiére-étage” for the floor above this, literally meaning “first level”, because in French culture I guess, the second floor gets counted as the “first level” above the ground level, they just don’t call ground Level first floor like we do in USA. Anyways, really cool little gem you found on subharmonics and “strohbass”, I found it really fascinating how the fourth subharmonic level, just like the undertone series, was a major third underneath the two-octaves-under-the-fundamental’s tone, or A flat under C. Damn a MAJOR third, since it’s the inversion of the overtone series. But still, it’s one thing to know it in theory, and another to hear it demonstrated out in the world, and by a human voice, not just any instrument, no less! Thank you for sharing, friend 🙏🔥❤️ much love and support to our vocal brothers and sisters from the beatbox community, I love learning about these amazing human voice techniques, the human voice is magic!!
Looking forward to the next video about it!
"Soon, Grasshopper, I will teach you my final, secret, and most powerful singing technique."
This is actually a teaser trailer for 'Pai Mei - The Musical'.
I really struggle with subharmonics I tend to miss it everytime im not sure why I’m practicing all the time I’ve seen all your videos and love them fella😁
I wish I could go there, but I'm a woman... who loves low voices 😌
It's never too late to become a man
You can also use subharmonics with a higher register! Usually easiest to start around a 5th (give or take) up from your lowest note in chest voice.
I'm a first soprano and I can do it.
@@josephtoto80 lmao
but women can use subharmonics with no problem
I got to be honest. I didn’t even know about sub harmonics until today, but I’ve been doing it for half a year now. I even reach the 2nd with no problem. 😂
This is like when you strike the lowest note on a piano and you don't hear the actual frequency until after the harmonics produced within the apparatus. AO actually causes 3 more octaves to engage
Finally, a bass singing tips after awhile. This is why I'm subscribed. But I have a question, is it possible to go to the 3rd subharmonic register from the 2nd?
It is! The lowest I've gone is the 4th. I will try recording a video of a 3rd subharmonic sometime, but it's tough to control. The 3rd sub is 1 octave below the first, so it can actually be pretty useful (If I used it in the first clip it would have been D3-D2-G1-D1)
The lowest level subharmonic I've heard recorded is the 7th. It was done by Leonard Fuks - can't remember the notes but I know he started pretty high.
@@davidlarson3905 Thanks! I'm now focusing on the solidity of my subharmonic. Can't wait for the next video!!
@@davidlarson3905 Got a link to that? I'd love to hear it!
@@thekingoface8338 No, but hopefully I'll feature it in a video in the future!
@@davidlarson3905 can you give the link? cannot find anything
Started toying around with subharmonics yesterday. Have a fairly low voice already, can hit a G1 through 1st subharmonic. Tried 2nd subharmonic today, started at a D2 and was able to sneak a G1 out through that. Not too hard after you know what your going for! Definitely associate vocal fry with Tina's whining on Bob's Burgers lol
I discovered this by accident when practicing the 1st subharmonic, but it was very weak. Didn't know it was actually a legit thing you could make sound just as powerful!
damn david you did a whole glow up
A WHOLE glow up! Haha
I actually discovered this technique by accident by singing 1st order subharmonics, and sometimes I slip from 1st to 2nd order without wanting to. It's really annoying, because I cannot control well either of them!
I figured i can do subharmics with vocal fry, which extends my range to a C0 since I can vocal fry to a C1. But I wouldn't be able to hear that note cause it's below 20 hertz. I also recently figured out how to do a 2nd subharmonic. It's pretty fun tbh.
byMarius wtf I just looked at ur channel it’s amazing how u can just keep going down with ur subharmonics. Btw how long have u been doing subharmonics
sounds awesome, could u bring up more videos of this ? :) or maybe included it in some music to hear how it sounds
I just figured this out last night on my own, that's how I found this video. Also figured out subharmonic singing in my own.
I hope you feel as happy as all of our joy put together when you released this new video.
You rly helped me with the subharmonics, thank you bro!!!!!
I think I can hear your pulse affecting the second subharmonic just before you cut it off.
Kitbuilt nice catch, sounds like he was trying hard to focus，given how hard the technique is, twas really sturdy sounding...pulsing happens a lot to me even when singing the first layer, especially when my heart is beating fast, it sounds like a vibrato with extended breaks...
i didnt notice. there have been times when i go 1st my heart beat and blood preassure affects. to the point where I have balanced the breath preassure so little and cords light enough. that my chords would only crackle a few times in sync with my heart beat. like the heart expands enough to add a wee more preassure.
that being said. this was only ever audible to me under my breath. I should've used a mic.
I'm getting to the point where I can get the note consistently, but I can't slide into it like you did...gotta keep practicing
beautiful!! we want to hear more of it!
Those notes in the beginning, maybe because the resonance from the room, sounded remarkably similar to a tuba
After a few days of practicing my second subharmonic I found I can get a C#1 with the third subharmonic. Not consistently yet but it's pretty cool.
I like to use mongolian throat singing for bass/baritone singing
Question about the volume. Are singing your chest voice note quieter? My subharmonic notes are noticably quieter, all of yours seems equally loud. Anytime I increase the volume of subharmonic, I just fall out of it. Practice?
Practice. Volume comes with stamina and control - once you get those two things down you can start pushing and adding more volume without losing it.
He looks cute with his hair like that.
Finally another bass singing video! But I’m already practicing so wish me luck!😂
Excellent video David, the second subharmonic is very difficult to achieve, and the third subharmonic I’ve only been able to lock in a few times.
Have you experimented with the different harmonics while using karygraa? It’s a much rougher sound, but it’s also more reliable.
You means 'Gyuke' from tibetan monks?
CB.S No, that style still uses an octave. What I’m referring to is using karygraa but the pitch being produced by the vestibular folds is an octave and a fifth (or 2 octaves) below the pitch being produced by the regular vocal folds.
I too am curious if David uses kargyraa at all. I've been working on that and other khoomei techniques for the last few years, and wonder if they can be used for SH in some way.
That sounds close to vibration bass😮🔥🔥
Can u make a video on a way to practice or some exercise for the subharmonics to make it better
I do this by accident sometimes. It's seriously hard to hold.
I'm so glad I found your channel. This is the secret to shouting powers from Skyrim. Don't use it to say 'fus ro da' around anything.
I recently discovered how to do this too! Very cool
How low can you go with the 2nd harmonic regester?
@@baileycarroll7711 what is your lowest note in chest voice? Also is it useful to sing that low
@@baileycarroll7711 that's insane! You can do around an octave lower with this method. I barely here of people who can sing lower than an A0 but a D0 that's just insane!
Can’t wait to say beeeeeeans what the fuckkk
MCWHAAAAAAT?! I'm totally gonna try this! Thanks for sharing, man!
I can't wait til you can hit the 4th subharmonic or the 3rd
I knew how subharmonics worked, and I actually reached the 2nd subharmonic trying this a couple of times without knowing about this video. not well though, I still need to get a solid tone on the 1st harmonic. I'm not even really a singer lol I'm a synthesist, I just love bassy shit
I think I managed to get 4th subharmomic once but only after waking up. Easier to do when having a dry throat.
I have a great bass voice(lowest chest voice note most days is a D2) and I can already do the first subharmonic so I don’t know if the second subharmonic will be even noticeable as a distinct pitch because of how low it would be 😂😂
I mean I taught myself to do this without watching the video but I have no idea how to explain it. I want ways to improve tone so I can use it well in songs. U sound pretty good but I think the echo helps.
Hey David. I myself have been learning and practicing subharmonics myself. I was curious though because I was only focusing on the first, because as you said you need the first to get the second, and I was hitting Gb1 and A1, but you hit those in your second. Is it possible for me to get this low in the first subharmonic, or is there some funny stuff going on?
The longer hair threw off his pitch, it's actually Eb3 Eb2 Ab1 :/
Still sick though, he probably just didn’t pay attention to what he was saying at the moment.
I tried this and nobody belives that I'm 14 because my voice gets deeper after I do it idk why
Im 14 also and i can hit a subharmonic E1
So this is like DBZ.
Grow hair long = become stronger, sing deeper. Super Saiyan Deep! (like Tim Foust, Avi, David Larson, David Kahn, so on and so on.) :P
digging the long hair !
Hey I mean I think at this point it's just science 🤷♂️👀
I learned throat singing from beatboxers and thanks to you I discovered and learned how to hit the 2nd subharmonic.. I'm now wondering how false chord scream/growl works, do you have any suggestions?
could you demo a 2nd subharmonic lower than your lowest 1st subharmonic? perhaps directly from the fundamental, like an E1 from a B2. thanks!
Ingressive vocalization video coming up?
🤫
David Larson I love using that technique
I am 17 and not very trained in the whole bass singing "section"
With what note do you count as a bass? I can get a good e2 and an d2 which is my last possible chest voice note right now
Voice type is more about tessitura, ie. which range is most natural, and tone, than range taken alone. If your voice lays low and sounds low, there's a good chance you're a bass regardless of how low you can get.
@@iakampa6265 Oh alright ^^ thank you for the answer! :)
Is the technique you're planning to share the same one David uses to get that C1 in the Elvis musical he posted on his channel, or is he just that beastly of a vocalist? 😂
Anyway, love this video and your other content. Can't wait to see what this new technique you're mentioning is all about
If I could teach how to be David Kahn I would, but it's impossible lol.
And that was just subharmonics 😉 the next technique is way different
I'm really curious about this secret.
i need this to use to my Routines at beatbox
Hi! Sometimes I feel like I drop into the 2nd but sometimes I think I'm just changing the fundamental a fifth down
i can't tell if I'm in 2nd or changing the fundamental
I have made this same mistake on occasion. It's important to let it "fall" down the 5th instead of aiming for it. Let the note slide out - don't force it. Good luck!
@@davidlarson3905 is it normal to pop between 1st and 2nd?
@@johntangggg Yes! Especially when your voice is getting a little tired. I've noticed that sometimes later at night I have a hard time sustaining the 1st SH because the 2nd keeps trying to pop in.
Hey after a while of noodlin around this.... I just discovered I can still go lower even after the 2nd subharmonic
I have 2 things I'd like to learn from you, thanks for this one by the way.
I'd like to learn how to ingressive Vocal fry, and I'd like to learn how to Mage the subs cleaner, mine don't have a strong sub tone.
So are you maintaining the fundamental note, but changing the subharmonic down even lower?
For the next technic that he talked about that he said will do a video on soon i want to know how lower you can go with it
Its strange becuase ican "pop" into a b1, but sliding into a b1 from a b2 is hard, and i can hit the e1 after a little practice. Still working on it though. I want to sing Geoffs oogie song. lol
Thanks to your videos I managed to hit from c2 to g1 with subharmonics when with chest voice every note under f2 has always sounded weak and unresonant. Keep it up
He got us all to put notifications on
So... How to gain control? Cause like I can sometimes just very naturally hit a subharmonic note without even thinking about it, but then other times I have a really hard time doing anything at all... Like just a couple minutes ago I was able to hit a G#1 down to a D1 barely, but I had no consistency and barely any control...