*"I don't think the fans of Tekken fully realize how insignificant the characters who aren't Mishima's are. So we're going to fix that by bringing back Heihachi."* -Harada
They learned the same way Star Wars had to learn. Nobody gives a shit if the Skywalkers arent involved. If there is a Star Wars movie coming out and it doesnt involve the Skywalkers or isnt based on their family, nobody cares about it. Tekkens story is the story of the Mishimas. Thats it, nobody else. Now you can sit here and backseat and be like "they should explore X character more and X story more" but the fact of the matter is NOBODY CARES. The dumbest possible thing they could possibly do at their peak of popularity is "move on" from their most famous and iconic characters for the sake of someone whose gonna play the game no matter what. "Hey we are the most popular and mainstream we have ever been....lets kill and replace the characters the general populace know and associate the most with Tekken" Its like the Avengers going "Hey we are super popular now, we no longer need Ironman, Captain America, and Thor" and look what happened. Nobody cares about Marvel anymore. Good move killing off your best most iconic characters right?
If anything, it highlights the lack of awareness by Bandai and Harada. They didn't have to bring Heihachi back with the story. They could have added him as a regular dlc character with no story implications, like Negan. But instead of learning from Akuma how bad it is inserting a character into a story who doesn't belong, they are doing it again with Heihachi.
it wasn't ever like fighting games had a good story to begin with, people didn't like Tekken story for the boring ass story mode 7 introduced, it was the crazy lore that Tekken character always had, Ive heard of people that play Tekken for the lord say this, the story never ever mattered, it was the crazy lore more than the story
Remember Triborg from MKX? He’s a playable DLC character, but he is not canon. Heihachi should at least be like that in Tekken 8, and he should have stayed dead.
That's what I lovee tekken 8 but seeing him back in canon was kinda deflating it would be cool if game kept him dead since the voice actor who played him passed away as well. (Would have loved a playable hehachi as dlc but not in story though)
When characters die in MK the lore can back up if they come back to life. SF to a degree their lore can also back up if they come back to life mainly Byson with the multiple bodies. TEKKEN doesn’t have the lore like that to back up why Heihatvhi is still alive. He got killed cold blood fish straight through the chest and got thrown into lava. Just for storytelling purposes, they couldn’t even live one game without him on the roster.
bald statement considering you haven´t even played the story expansion...the explanation may be weak but there´s guaranteed gonna be one...besides MK is the worst offender of bringing characters back with lazy explanations...the worst being the multiverse nonsense they got going on at this point
@@ScientologyHunter2 The monks summoned Heihachi from the past (the Soul Calibur III's Heihachi.) This might be the start of Tekken / Soul Calibur crossover event. That's why they added more weapon based characters beside Yoshi, like Raven, French Raven, nun-chuck Law, magic staff Leroy and probably yet another Final Fantasy guess character later (Cloud or Sephiroth, maybe.)
He survived alot of shit, he even *canonically survived* Akuma's Raging Demon which is supposed to be a soul killing move. Nothing is killing this man.
@@suijin3129 Yeah people tend to forget that multiple jacks blew themselves right on him and he was in a coma for a while So a volcano wouldn't do much either
The simple answer is because the developers decided that Marduk fans had to suffer 2:59 not even when your skin TOUCHES it, even being NEAR it should make you burn alive
Heihachi is like M Bison in the sense where he just can't stay dead, at least M Bison has the excuse of having spare back up bodies, but still what's Heihachi's excuse, hopefully it will be explained in the Story Mode Expansion?
I don’t like to admit it, but the lore is clearly not meant to be taken seriously. As I’ve done in the past. It’s due to passion but obviously the developers prioritize fun and finances so why even bother caring when everything logically can quickly be flipped upside down?
If it's not meant to be taken seriously then why is the tone of the story the way it was? Why did we have 2 several hour long campaigns? Didn't seem like a joke to me
Harada is notorious at this point when it comes to the Mishima storyline and turning awesome characters like Law into bad jokes. I think he regrets killing off Heihachi.
@@pietrolupo2717 This time, it's the worse! Worse than in T2 and T5. Imagine someone telling you that someone gonna throw you dog of a 20 story cliff and he does. Then, that same dog come to later with little to no scratches on him. You would have the common sense to say, "How?" And not, "Oh, you silly dog."
@@christhechilled heihachi has survived an entire explosion rigth in the face and this is worse? Tekken was always an over the top videogame franchise a little bit of suspension of disbilefie
Heihachi being dead may not be a lie (him being COMPLETELY dead is, though). The trailer suggests he was resurrected. Jinpachi and Kazuya also died, with the former being resurrected by an "evil spirit" and the latter by G Corp.
So some observations: It'd be weird to me for OG Heihachi, as in the original incarnation from Tekken 1-7, if he hadn't died, to declare "I am...Heihachi Mishima!" Like, of course you are, who else would you be? It'd make more sense for him to say something like "...I have returned!" or "Heihachi Mishima is back!". To me that could imply that A: He is newly resurrected in a reborn body, or B: Somehow 'he' wasn't always Heihachi. We also see the monks & possibly Reina going through some dark ritual in the story content. It may be a long shot, but with the bare bones context we currently have, my guess would be that they're going through some kind of ritual to reincarnate Heihachi, either in a completely new body, or one of the Tekken Monks (the one with the long white hair) serves as a host. I think the Jacks attack in the middle of the ceremony & destroy the temple T5 style, only for Papa Mishima, newly revived and somehow looking younger, to walk out of the devastation. The thing that really throws me off though is the new scar from Kazuya. A reincarnated body, or one derived from a host, wouldn't necessarily have that. Which leads me more to think it's his original self. But then how to explain surviving the volcano, the rituals, him looking younger & his odd declaration of self? Or perhaps they just included it to give the T7 connection & to look badass, canon be damned. It's always a possibility. Alo, the long-haired one has the chest scar as well. So much we don't know yet. I'm probably way off, but it's fun to guess. I'm just glad he's back. I've been playing since T2 & always slept on him & went straight to Kazuya (Hei mains have been feeling that circa T3 Kaz main pain🤣). but since T7 I've been wanting to give the OG Iron Fist a shot, & it seems now is the perfect chance. 😁
Greed strikes again lol Here’s a thought, Ed Boon and Harada have been more friendly than usual What if. A mortal kombat character is the last fighter for season 1? Also just subbed to the channel!
Kazuya was brought back to life by G Corporation, i won't be surprised if Heihachi got ressurrected by any way Harada Sensei pleases. Personally i was expecting Harada Sensei to make Heihachi a playable character even dead in the story and i'm glad his "karategi" outfit is not the very same black karategi with the tiger head on its back and white bandages (in some games wrapped defferently) this time, because Jin and Kazuya were getting new trousers, gloves, gauntlets, etc. The fourth character could be Bruce, Anna, Ogre (that's a good point, in T4 he was trying to do some s**t with its dna), Kunimitsu, Lei or some new Tekken character. I would love to see Marduk, Armor King or Forrest Law with a new breath of fresh air.
Exactly, there's something different. Even when he says his name, that's kind of strange, like it's not exactly him. I think he actually died and got resurrected or someone is controlling his body.
to me it seems like his hair is charred and he has severe burns on his chest,so hes likely so strong that he legit tanked magma all over him for uhhhhh... however long tekken 8 was
@@Brieg_Skald he has kazuya fist mark on his chest I think it awakened something. You see that’s the same mark of the fist as the new organization symbol
It's sad that death doesn't mean anything in these games. I get people wanting these characters back as dlc, but to add them to the story as well is ridiculous imo.
@@ssjgotenks2009 I didn't understand. The other guy was mentioning characters that died and remained dead... I just added Kasumi, Jinpachi and Ogre for that same reason.
I think the reason why bro survived is cuz. #1: either he got a succesful experiment with the devil gene enhancing his body secretly, but heihachi didn't know since he saw them all fail or. #2: the mishima bloodline is actualy a decendant of raiden, hence their superhuman bodies and power to manipulate electricity.
He didn't survive, Its implied he's been revived....What do you think Reina's goal was in all of this?. She's dedicated to this man like Kabuto was to Orochimaru.
I mean, the colour of the last character is Dark Orange. Eddy = Green Effect. Lidia = Red Effect. Heihachi = Blue Effect... Who has a Dark Orange Effect? Bruce! Armour King! I reckon it's gonna be one of those two. A guest character would be sick though. Ngl I do miss Geese.
I'm a Heihachi fan since childhood and his T7 death was the best death they could give to him. I hope his T8 appearance is just ghost, clone or something because they ruined him as a character with endless resurrections.
I'm guessing Reyna revives Heihachi.. not the "old man" Heihachi, but the black haired version of him, and Reyna is the only one who has the Devil gene, as JIn and Kaz doesn't have it anymore. +We should've never trusted RAVEN's reports of Heihachi LOL +Heihachi's VAs already passed away, the curent VA for him is the one who VA-ed All Might from MHA.
That was it for him, He's been Resurrected meaning something spiritual, Supernatural is at play. Why do you think Reina wanted to unlock her devil gene so bad and she said soon...and now we see the blood moon. Also even more proof he's resurrected, look at his hair its black similar to his T2 look.
I would prefer if he stayed dead and this DLC was non-canonical, but, what can I do. Bringing "dead" characters back like this simply ruins previous moments and impacts, making them not have the same emotion as before. I thought the next enemy would be Reina, but i don't know what will happen now, i hope they don't shit on the story at least.
A November 2022 rumor/leak says that "Heihachi GHOST will be DLC" Take it as you will. It also mentions MainManSwe I have a comment on King Connel where i explain why he may be a ghost or something from things from the trailer
I feel like the mishimas are immune to lava my theory is Kazuya secretly knew about this because he knew some point he’s gonna bite the dust so he didn’t want the Mishima story to end 😂
But Kazuya literally had to be bio-repaired by G-Corp between the events of Tekken 2 and the prelude of Tekken 4. The only reason Kazuya survived was due to the devil gene. I don't see no G-Corp-type shi happening to Heihachi. Has to be some kind of will power
Probably a bit of both lets be real, dude was expecting to be revived (Kazuya was against him so why not do the same for him sure Jin works but heeeeh a good part of 7 is Heihachi explaining why he is not THAT bad so couldve been a PR stunt to get someone to like him enough to revive him), and Reina wants to bring him back it seems @@otdreamer193-j6m
I was been shocked when I see Heihachi Mishima's trailer, how is even be possible to he is survived, like how, what kind of man he is, Heihachi is not a human, I really don't know what he is anyway, I really can't believe it, hat's down, big boss is back 👍😲
Its obvious from the trailor that heihachi actually died. I believe those mishima monks and reina have a connection, and somehow end up pulling off some kind of ritual to reincarnate him into that leader monk in the black and he will resurrect/become Heihachi on some otsutsuki shit from boruto 😅 (just my speculation)
So if they retconned heihachi DYING to him getting knocked out, they undid one of the most epic deaths and moments in Tekken History. What a joke... And at MINIMUM, heihachi's hair & clothes should been burned off by the lava
I'm a Bison main and Heihachi is my second character in Tekken. Whilst I was of course sad to see them not in either SF6 or T8, I think they should stay dead. I felt the same way about Frieza in Dragon Ball. He's my favourite character, but he should have stayed dead.
Easy because Harada still can't move on or accept the death of his favorite Japanese character which is Heihachi, next character would be jinpachi and next would be Kazumi, there is no end of this sxxt
Mostly up to this point T8 reused a lot of things from T7 if you at something like the Tekken shop were they want to sell you random basic assets from T7 for real money. I really hope that this method isn't also used for the roster if DLC characters and they bring us at least 1 new character this year
That would explain the bodies you see right before... but the Jack-7 are controlled by the Mishima Zaibatsu, last used by Nina, whose Reina probably enrolled. We see the TEKKEN Force and the Jacks attacking some opposite force led by Eddy, who met Jin and Lars at the rebel hangar. They are at war, for sure. The question is : What are they fighting for ? The evil side is commanded by Nina so Reina is most likely the headspot of this force. Reina is most certainly involved in Heihachi's return... so, I guess the Rebels think : 'Whatever Reina's plan is, we must stop her.' ... or maybe they don't even know Reina is behind all of this. She was on Rebels side during the war against the G-Corp.
Theories: 1. Like Jin, Kazuya and Reina before him, Heihachi gains devil form through a death experience. 2. Heihachi is possessed by another demon, an oni, similar to Jinpachi. 3. Reina uses her own devil blood to bring Heihachi back. 4. Heihachi just willed himself back because he's fucking Heihachi lmao.
My take on both of your questions : *How did Heihachi survived ?* Well, it's simple. He didn't. Kazuya punched him in the chest, causing Heihachi an heart attack. Then, Kazuya threw him in the lava and Kazuya stared at it for, AT LEAST, five to ten seconds. There is no way someone interfered at the moment and, as someone said in the comments, Heihachi's body would burn and turn into flames even before touching the lava. My guess is that the ritual is the key of the whole story. What is that dark cloud Lidia is looking at ? What is that red 'thing' the masked monk is holding ? Who is the long-haired man ? What is Reina's role in this ? There's a lot of questions to answer. Kazuya survived the volcano thanks to the Devil Gene but Heihachi doesn't have it. It came from Kazumi line, which Heihachi is obviously not from. However, Reina has it. She awakened it. She spent the whole first part of the story studying it to get to know how to trigger it. Also, remember the last words she said in TEKKEN 8's ending : "Heihachi, my father... On my life, I'll swear..." ... Then she awakens and the music starts. We don't know what she was thinking. What was it ? 'I will restore your legacy ?' or 'I will bring you back from the dead ?' I believe she used her Devil Gene and the monks' ritual to activate the blood Moon. Do you remember her rage art ? The shadows forming Heihachi's face and hair under a full blood Moon ? There's clearly some hints, there. The long-haired man is another key. That's why I'm curious about the dark cloud and the red thing which are sparking threateningly. I can't wait we have a proper gameplay trailer that will probably tells a lot more, unless B.NAMCO unveils the mystery before, which I doubt because that would spoil the story.
*Who is the final character ?* I think it will be Ogre. Ogre makes a lot of sense. We could have him appearing in a Jun's side story and Harada confirmed in a live talk there WILL be an (free) update that allow us to know how she came to survive all this time. That would be the perfect opportunity to bring Ogre back. Furthermore, we know Ogre's blood has amazing properties (remember how the mouse grew in TEKKEN 3's Yoshimitsu's ending). Heihachi wanted to use it to gain power, see if that would trigger any Devil Gene in him, and to be young again to retrieve his former strength. I do believe Ogre is part of Azazel's lineage and was, somehow, a superhuman demigod embue with the Devil Gene (explains his True Ogre form). Jin destroyed him in TEKKEN 3. We saw him 'disintegrate' into white sparks... but y'all know how death works strangely in TEKKEN's lore. You (from the video) mentioned Ogre when looking at the statue. I think it's a statue from the monk temple that got attacked and bombed by the Jacks, as someone mentioned in the comment, but I don't get why Reina, who probably enrolled Nina, would do that additionally to the ritual... did she ? Is she just a spectator ? I still don't think so. Is Ogre part of this ? That would seem so crazy but hey, we never know. I think we should still keep this idea in mind and see what happens. Uhm... Sorry for that (very) long text, glad if you liked it if you red it. I've tried to gather some people's ideas from the comments.
LAST CHARACTER IN THIS SEASON SOMETHING CROSS OVER? OR JUST FOCUS ON TEKKEN CHARACTERS JUST LIKE WHAT THE CREATOR SAID, BUT WE THOUGHT HEIHACHI WAS DEAD ACCORDTING TO HARADA, THEN WHAT HAPPEN? SURPRISE? CHANGE OF MIND? HOW HEIHACHI STILL ALIVE? I THINK SOMEONE IS SAVING HIM OR HE JUST SURVIVE ON HIS OWN, IT SO UNKNOWN, THIS MEANS THAT THE BATTLE OF TRUE DEVIL KAZUYA AND GOUKI THE SHIN AKUMA IS STILL UNKNONW, KAZUMI DEBT TO GOUKI STILL UNKNOWN, OTHER FANS EXPECT BASELINE STORY ABOUT HOW KAZUYA AND GOUKI WILL BATTLE IN THE NEXT TEKKEN :)
For crying out loud, and Heihachi fans waving a shouting hand of applause, it came out of nowhere- by this point Heihachi is an unstoppable machine, but who knows- as the for the 4th character at the winter that could be anybody that’s for sure- forget about Fah Kum and Marduk - I bet the 4th one would be something related to the story installment (could be a new character? But I doubt it) could be Kunimitsu or, definitely Ogre, we kinda need him.
The shadows make him look younger, but he seems greyer in the DLC panel. This being said though, he still looks ~10/20 years younger. Maybe, that's part of the ritual ?
He's strong enough to defeat Kazuya, but the devil gene is just beyond any human ability, and we've seen Kazuya survive the same fate so its safe to assume Heihachi can as well.
@@Invicible94It wasn't 20 years, Idk how people missed that T4 Kazuya intro where it literally states he was revived a few days later after the end of T2's tournament 😂
I don't think the section at the end of the trailer is immediately after his death at the hands of Kazuya. Heihachi has the Tekken Monk Gi on at the end. I have no clue how he's back, but it seems to me like he's returned to a volcano to give a final test to his newly honed body or something, proving to himself he can't be beaten by the power of nature anymore.
Tbh, I think the only person who would top Heihachi would be Jinpachi. I just, don't see any other Tekken character that can make such a surprise return.
How did he survive ??? producers want to as usual didn't know a better way to include him in the game and the DLC money that comes with it Our favourite fighting game franchises like MK and Tekken are Shadow of themselves thanks to hidden agendas among game producers and sony pushing politically correct messages and firing experienced game developers in the name of cost cutting and most importantly due to disagreements in the direction in which gaming industry is heading .
it all started after tekken 6 had come out on ps3 and xbox360 as well; and the mortal kombat series after armaggeddon came out in the autumn of 2006. also soul calibur series has suffered after the fifth game came out in early 2012. samurai showdown and the street fighter series have had similar downturns also. it's as if the developers have no artistic or creative vision for future instalments for their series. all they can do is stay loyal to so called legacy characters and have guest fighters from other games to drive up sales of their games. they have no faith in any of the debutants in their games and even some popular new characters they relegate to DLC. the day ps4 and xbox one hit the shelves creativity truly died when it came to games development. money is more important to the developers than advancing the story of any fighting game franchise. only a token few new characters from recent entries in any of the aforementioned games will make the base roster while the rest of them are consigned to history to the appeasement of people who are not die hard fans of the games. when you look at current entries of established fighting game and you see the rosters you wish some fighters from previous games would come back. i'm in that same boat as you.
Volcanoes are hot tubs for the Mishimas at this point
No kiddin'
Facts. They just be in there taking a short vacation to rejuvenate
Hahaha! I didn’t see your comment before I said the same thing! 😂
LMAO
That's kind of an exaggeration. Kaz would be dead if not for G Corp. Now we just need an explanation for Heihachi.
*"I don't think the fans of Tekken fully realize how insignificant the characters who aren't Mishima's are. So we're going to fix that by bringing back Heihachi."* -Harada
Truly a Harada moment
Glad harada brought back Heihachi instead of a throwaway character such as lucky Chloe
They learned the same way Star Wars had to learn. Nobody gives a shit if the Skywalkers arent involved. If there is a Star Wars movie coming out and it doesnt involve the Skywalkers or isnt based on their family, nobody cares about it. Tekkens story is the story of the Mishimas. Thats it, nobody else. Now you can sit here and backseat and be like "they should explore X character more and X story more" but the fact of the matter is NOBODY CARES. The dumbest possible thing they could possibly do at their peak of popularity is "move on" from their most famous and iconic characters for the sake of someone whose gonna play the game no matter what. "Hey we are the most popular and mainstream we have ever been....lets kill and replace the characters the general populace know and associate the most with Tekken" Its like the Avengers going "Hey we are super popular now, we no longer need Ironman, Captain America, and Thor" and look what happened. Nobody cares about Marvel anymore. Good move killing off your best most iconic characters right?
Kazuya killed him. Period.
Everybody is invincible ! Zafina & Claudio don't trully die too in the story
In life, you avoid volcanoes because they are incredibly dangerous.
In Tekken, you avoid volcanoes because they make the Mishimas more dangerous.
The monks practicing the wave dash over the fire has got to be the funniest shit I have ever seen in all Tekken trailers
Who knows ! Maybe he wave dashed over the lava lmao 😂
Heihachi came back like " get your refund muthafucka i aint dead "
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😂😂😂
Lol, It's T2 PTSD all over again.
This is why the whole "Story in Fighting Games don't Matter" debate is a thing unfortunately
Word, it's pretty frustrating shit
I mean you are a low iq fool if you are getting into those debates period. let dumb people be dumb.
If anything, it highlights the lack of awareness by Bandai and Harada. They didn't have to bring Heihachi back with the story. They could have added him as a regular dlc character with no story implications, like Negan. But instead of learning from Akuma how bad it is inserting a character into a story who doesn't belong, they are doing it again with Heihachi.
it wasn't ever like fighting games had a good story to begin with, people didn't like Tekken story for the boring ass story mode 7 introduced, it was the crazy lore that Tekken character always had, Ive heard of people that play Tekken for the lord say this, the story never ever mattered, it was the crazy lore more than the story
If only this story were non-canon. They love doing my boy Kazuya every injustice they can.
Heihachi, Bison and Shao Kahn can never stayed dead mostly Bison.
The 3 Final Boss Goats. They're all too iconic
@@MrShahrozzzheihachi easily the most iconic.
@@MrShahrozzz what about rugal?
@kyomoto2084 Rugal is dope! But those 3 are too iconic. Even non fighting game players know them
What About Gill ?
Remember Triborg from MKX? He’s a playable DLC character, but he is not canon. Heihachi should at least be like that in Tekken 8, and he should have stayed dead.
Exactly
Nah bro, Heihachi is too good of a villain to stay dead.
Agreed
That's what I lovee tekken 8 but seeing him back in canon was kinda deflating it would be cool if game kept him dead since the voice actor who played him passed away as well. (Would have loved a playable hehachi as dlc but not in story though)
When characters die in MK the lore can back up if they come back to life. SF to a degree their lore can also back up if they come back to life mainly Byson with the multiple bodies. TEKKEN doesn’t have the lore like that to back up why Heihatvhi is still alive. He got killed cold blood fish straight through the chest and got thrown into lava. Just for storytelling purposes, they couldn’t even live one game without him on the roster.
Facts
About the ritual ? Obviously, the monks aren't just celebrating the Full Moon.
bald statement considering you haven´t even played the story expansion...the explanation may be weak but there´s guaranteed gonna be one...besides MK is the worst offender of bringing characters back with lazy explanations...the worst being the multiverse nonsense they got going on at this point
@@ScientologyHunter2 The monks summoned Heihachi from the past (the Soul Calibur III's Heihachi.) This might be the start of Tekken / Soul Calibur crossover event. That's why they added more weapon based characters beside Yoshi, like Raven, French Raven, nun-chuck Law, magic staff Leroy and probably yet another Final Fantasy guess character later (Cloud or Sephiroth, maybe.)
The damn Resident Evil puzzle music in the background during the breakdown had me rolling. 😅
Get me every time 😂😂
At this point Heihachi is probably the strongest pound 4 pound ⚡️💪🏼
No devil gene, just a straight beast!
Or he had the gene the entire time, he just did not unlock it
Lava-filled volcanos in Tekken are like luke-warm hot tubs.
Yes and no. Kaz _did_ die and would have stayed that way, if not for G Corp resurrecting him.
@@Sungura_Kaiser Just means the water was a bit too hot ;)
@@TheMikeD428 Lava isn't water.
@@Sungura_KaiserYou must be fun at parties.
@@TheMikeD428 Overused clapback for people backed into a corner.
Somewhere kazumi is turning in her grave is fax
Need her back in the game fr 😔🙏🙏🙏🙏
It would be pretty cool if she was the final DLC character.
Heihachi : I just swam out and dry myself off.
Me : In lava??
Heihachi is Like a Supernatural Human Being Immortal
All this without devil genes 😂
Absolutely
Bro his heart stopped, he wasn't knocked out geezer was literally dead 💀
That’s why I believe it will be a type of resurrection.
He survived alot of shit, he even *canonically survived* Akuma's Raging Demon which is supposed to be a soul killing move. Nothing is killing this man.
Dude died in an explosion in Tekken 5 and he even told Raven that "Mishima's are invincible"
@@suijin3129 Yeah people tend to forget that multiple jacks blew themselves right on him and he was in a coma for a while
So a volcano wouldn't do much either
He beat up death and took his lunch money. Same as any other fighting game boss.
He absorbed ogres power and it finally awakened
Fr?
@@darakkriess1030 nah. Bro is just theory crafting with hypothetical sticks 😂😂😂
I remember he had Ogre's blood in Tekken 4.
@@autobot_jazzman9856 He wasn't able to do anything with it.
@@Sungura_Kaiseryeah he's not in the devil genes lineage
This Mishima feud is eternal 😂😂
The simple answer is because the developers decided that Marduk fans had to suffer
2:59 not even when your skin TOUCHES it, even being NEAR it should make you burn alive
I mean y'all know that Marduk is gonna roll through rank pretty easily, have you seen king? just wait Marduk fans y'all's time will come
There are Marduk fans ?
By the way, King isn't so popular and successful in highest ranks. See how fast pros dropped him in Electric Clash.
Heihachi is like M Bison in the sense where he just can't stay dead, at least M Bison has the excuse of having spare back up bodies, but still what's Heihachi's excuse, hopefully it will be explained in the Story Mode Expansion?
Heihachi coming back is the result of Namco refusing to let this series move forward
You probably won't get a good explanation in the story
@@micah459i mean, look at jun’s explanation. SHE contained ogre? she was put in STASIS in this place that bamco conceptualized years after her death?
@@SupportGamin2024 move form what tekken9 is gonig ot b fianl game it starte with heiehaic it will end with him
because like heichschi maishamm cannit die drcause he string because heihcshco michsoma
Bison and Heihaichi both said "Fuck your lessons!"
Truly break the expected.
I wonder if Kronika will make her return in Mortal Kombat. 🤔
@@Spotty2Wily Turns out Fire-god Liu Kang is actually Kronika!
Couldnt let him stay dead for one game.......
For 1 season even😂
I don’t like to admit it, but the lore is clearly not meant to be taken seriously. As I’ve done in the past. It’s due to passion but obviously the developers prioritize fun and finances so why even bother caring when everything logically can quickly be flipped upside down?
If it's not meant to be taken seriously then why is the tone of the story the way it was? Why did we have 2 several hour long campaigns? Didn't seem like a joke to me
He saw Geese's Nightmare gimmick and decided to ape the bit.
Heihachi should give credit to geese at this point cuz geese use to died then revive cuz plot demand.
This Heihachi reveal DESTROYS the story of Tekken 7 in a nutshell. Harada is a lier!
Harada is notorious at this point when it comes to the Mishima storyline and turning awesome characters like Law into bad jokes. I think he regrets killing off Heihachi.
Like thats the first time they fake heihachi Death they did it since the first tekken
@@pietrolupo2717 This time, it's the worse! Worse than in T2 and T5. Imagine someone telling you that someone gonna throw you dog of a 20 story cliff and he does. Then, that same dog come to later with little to no scratches on him. You would have the common sense to say, "How?" And not, "Oh, you silly dog."
@@christhechilled heihachi has survived an entire explosion rigth in the face and this is worse? Tekken was always an over the top videogame franchise a little bit of suspension of disbilefie
Heihachi being dead may not be a lie (him being COMPLETELY dead is, though). The trailer suggests he was resurrected. Jinpachi and Kazuya also died, with the former being resurrected by an "evil spirit" and the latter by G Corp.
So some observations:
It'd be weird to me for OG Heihachi, as in the original incarnation from Tekken 1-7, if he hadn't died, to declare "I am...Heihachi Mishima!" Like, of course you are, who else would you be? It'd make more sense for him to say something like "...I have returned!" or "Heihachi Mishima is back!". To me that could imply that A: He is newly resurrected in a reborn body, or B: Somehow 'he' wasn't always Heihachi. We also see the monks & possibly Reina going through some dark ritual in the story content.
It may be a long shot, but with the bare bones context we currently have, my guess would be that they're going through some kind of ritual to reincarnate Heihachi, either in a completely new body, or one of the Tekken Monks (the one with the long white hair) serves as a host. I think the Jacks attack in the middle of the ceremony & destroy the temple T5 style, only for Papa Mishima, newly revived and somehow looking younger, to walk out of the devastation.
The thing that really throws me off though is the new scar from Kazuya. A reincarnated body, or one derived from a host, wouldn't necessarily have that. Which leads me more to think it's his original self. But then how to explain surviving the volcano, the rituals, him looking younger & his odd declaration of self? Or perhaps they just included it to give the T7 connection & to look badass, canon be damned. It's always a possibility. Alo, the long-haired one has the chest scar as well. So much we don't know yet.
I'm probably way off, but it's fun to guess. I'm just glad he's back. I've been playing since T2 & always slept on him & went straight to Kazuya (Hei mains have been feeling that circa T3 Kaz main pain🤣). but since T7 I've been wanting to give the OG Iron Fist a shot, & it seems now is the perfect chance. 😁
He's Venom Heihachi, real Heihachi would have said "I'm back!"
Same, I started on T2 and T3 without Kazuya was painful...Now Hei mains feel what we felt 20+ years ago 😂
@@otdreamer193-j6m yeah for a whole 8 months. We had to languish without Kaz for like 3 years until Tag 1 came out on console
Greed strikes again lol
Here’s a thought, Ed Boon and Harada have been more friendly than usual
What if.
A mortal kombat character is the last fighter for season 1?
Also just subbed to the channel!
Let's watch Harada break his rules again by releasing his first guest dlc character in winter
We can't take the Mishima storyline seriously anymore. I get Heihachi being brought back for another Tekken Tag but this?...
Scorpion crawling out of the volcano 💀
Anyone notice the tears in Kazuya's eyes after Heihachi headbutted him?
The Final DLC character of Tekken 8 DLC is actually going to be a new character
Heihachi has been cheating death since the 90’s, they’ll never retire the character
Rugal came back from dead
Then Shao Kahn followed
Bison go along
Heihachi was the last puzzle piece
They make a good ressurection team
Kazuya was brought back to life by G Corporation, i won't be surprised if Heihachi got ressurrected by any way Harada Sensei pleases.
Personally i was expecting Harada Sensei to make Heihachi a playable character even dead in the story and i'm glad his "karategi" outfit is not the very same black karategi with the tiger head on its back and white bandages (in some games wrapped defferently) this time, because Jin and Kazuya were getting new trousers, gloves, gauntlets, etc.
The fourth character could be Bruce, Anna, Ogre (that's a good point, in T4 he was trying to do some s**t with its dna), Kunimitsu, Lei or some new Tekken character.
I would love to see Marduk, Armor King or Forrest Law with a new breath of fresh air.
I don't mind a Heihachi type character, apprentice, clone, or even guest in T8. But Heihachi, canonically shouldn't be alive.
You see how black his hair is and how his chest glows red at the end. He’s different than before
Exactly, there's something different. Even when he says his name, that's kind of strange, like it's not exactly him. I think he actually died and got resurrected or someone is controlling his body.
to me it seems like his hair is charred and he has severe burns on his chest,so hes likely so strong that he legit tanked magma all over him for uhhhhh... however long tekken 8 was
I'm glad someone noticed his chest somehow glowing red. I think the Devil Gene has something to do with it. Not his. Reina's.
@@Brieg_Skald he has kazuya fist mark on his chest I think it awakened something. You see that’s the same mark of the fist as the new organization symbol
It's sad that death doesn't mean anything in these games. I get people wanting these characters back as dlc, but to add them to the story as well is ridiculous imo.
The first Kuma, the first King, and the first Armor King died, soo... Granted they were all replaced, but still.
@@Sungura_KaiserDon't forget Kasumi and Jinpachi.
@@Sungura_KaiserOh, and Ogre.
@@ivan-fs kasumi never come back to life you fight her int he past a point in time where hse was alvie
@@ssjgotenks2009 I didn't understand. The other guy was mentioning characters that died and remained dead... I just added Kasumi, Jinpachi and Ogre for that same reason.
3:00 Actually, volcanoes are so hot that your body would catch fire before it even touched the lava, which makes him surviving even worse lol.
"Again the guy can return, but just keep him in the cannon story."
*FACTS*
I think the reason why bro survived is cuz.
#1: either he got a succesful experiment with the devil gene enhancing his body secretly, but heihachi didn't know since he saw them all fail or.
#2: the mishima bloodline is actualy a decendant of raiden, hence their superhuman bodies and power to manipulate electricity.
He didn't survive, Its implied he's been revived....What do you think Reina's goal was in all of this?. She's dedicated to this man like Kabuto was to Orochimaru.
@@otdreamer193-j6m oh, but.. This theory could still be true since his body didn't melt from the lava.
First M. Bison lives, then Heihachi Mishima. Who comes next? Kronika?
How did Heihachi Survive?
short answer: plot armor
Long answer: Cartoon logic of Tekken
Kazumi is turning in here grave xD
I mean, the colour of the last character is Dark Orange.
Eddy = Green Effect. Lidia = Red Effect. Heihachi = Blue Effect...
Who has a Dark Orange Effect? Bruce! Armour King! I reckon it's gonna be one of those two. A guest character would be sick though. Ngl I do miss Geese.
Bruce maybe
I'm a Heihachi fan since childhood and his T7 death was the best death they could give to him. I hope his T8 appearance is just ghost, clone or something because they ruined him as a character with endless resurrections.
Unlikely they said he is revived
The last one could probably be Miguel.
You know, end the season strong with a character who has a bloody history with Jin.
I wish, T8 let Jin off way too easy while everybody save Azucena, Nina & Dragunov ganged up on Kazuya.
It's Lydia's dad.
I see the resemblance.The old man has never had a beard or long Gray hair.He has a mustache
doesnt really explain how hes doing mishima electric techniques and has similar scars
Why would Lidia's dad join the TEKKEN monks and train for, certainly, decades to be... a vessel of Heihachi's... soul ? It doesn't make sense.
I'm guessing Reyna revives Heihachi.. not the "old man" Heihachi, but the black haired version of him, and Reyna is the only one who has the Devil gene, as JIn and Kaz doesn't have it anymore.
+We should've never trusted RAVEN's reports of Heihachi LOL
+Heihachi's VAs already passed away, the curent VA for him is the one who VA-ed All Might from MHA.
So this why Geese pulled up on him in the T7 trailer, bro was teaching him how to become Nightmare Heihachi
I'm liking this comment 😂
"Man too Mishima to Die"
How does someone comes back from hot lava?
That last fight should've been it for Heihachi.
My point exactly
That was it for him, He's been Resurrected meaning something spiritual, Supernatural is at play. Why do you think Reina wanted to unlock her devil gene so bad and she said soon...and now we see the blood moon. Also even more proof he's resurrected, look at his hair its black similar to his T2 look.
My theory : Kazuya's Devil Gene kept him alive from the lava.
Reina's Devil Gene has been used to raise Heihachi's from it.
Kazuya with G Corp scientists standing behind him: "How, indeed?"
Remember when Heihachi survived like 100 self-exploding Jacks? Yeah, Pepperidge... I mean, Raven remembers.
I would prefer if he stayed dead and this DLC was non-canonical, but, what can I do. Bringing "dead" characters back like this simply ruins previous moments and impacts, making them not have the same emotion as before. I thought the next enemy would be Reina, but i don't know what will happen now, i hope they don't shit on the story at least.
The story was always mocked since the beginning
Heihachi survived because money.
A November 2022 rumor/leak says that "Heihachi GHOST will be DLC"
Take it as you will.
It also mentions MainManSwe
I have a comment on King Connel where i explain why he may be a ghost or something from things from the trailer
If he is a ghost ok ill accept it
@@bobbywilliams4438 nope looks like he gets revived at the end of the trailer
well they said he is revived at the end and harada in an interview said he is canon and revived somehow not unlike how jinpachi came back in 5
@vikingfromnorth45 you're right and I don't like that at all but it is what it is
Why would he have the scar then?
Damn Heichachi in 7 look Majestic with hes oldness, in trailer of 8 look like some fucking monster mixed with Akuma.
I feel like the mishimas are immune to lava my theory is Kazuya secretly knew about this because he knew some point he’s gonna bite the dust so he didn’t want the Mishima story to end 😂
But Kazuya literally had to be bio-repaired by G-Corp between the events of Tekken 2 and the prelude of Tekken 4. The only reason Kazuya survived was due to the devil gene. I don't see no G-Corp-type shi happening to Heihachi. Has to be some kind of will power
@@KaylinMajesticHe's been Resurrected. It's beyond will power other than him either planning ahead to be revived or Reina doing it on her own.
Probably a bit of both lets be real, dude was expecting to be revived (Kazuya was against him so why not do the same for him sure Jin works but heeeeh a good part of 7 is Heihachi explaining why he is not THAT bad so couldve been a PR stunt to get someone to like him enough to revive him), and Reina wants to bring him back it seems @@otdreamer193-j6m
I was been shocked when I see Heihachi Mishima's trailer, how is even be possible to he is survived, like how, what kind of man he is, Heihachi is not a human, I really don't know what he is anyway, I really can't believe it, hat's down, big boss is back 👍😲
“Well, I wasn’t in that volcano.”
-Heihachi Mishima
Guess it that volcano stage from tekken 2 cuz lore wise in tekken 4 kazuya reappear cuz he land almost to lava.
Well, if even Akuma couldn't kill him how can a mere volcano?
Its obvious from the trailor that heihachi actually died. I believe those mishima monks and reina have a connection, and somehow end up pulling off some kind of ritual to reincarnate him into that leader monk in the black and he will resurrect/become Heihachi on some otsutsuki shit from boruto 😅 (just my speculation)
Heihachi is resurrected?
Kazuya is in "RAGE!"😡😡😡
So if they retconned heihachi DYING to him getting knocked out, they undid one of the most epic deaths and moments in Tekken History.
What a joke...
And at MINIMUM, heihachi's hair & clothes should been burned off by the lava
I'm a Bison main and Heihachi is my second character in Tekken. Whilst I was of course sad to see them not in either SF6 or T8, I think they should stay dead.
I felt the same way about Frieza in Dragon Ball. He's my favourite character, but he should have stayed dead.
Heihachi looks younger than T7 maybe this is a clone
Easy because Harada still can't move on or accept the death of his favorite Japanese character which is Heihachi, next character would be jinpachi and next would be Kazumi, there is no end of this sxxt
Honestly this just screams of a cash grab from Tekken.
They just can’t keep him dead 💀
Money
Mostly up to this point T8 reused a lot of things from T7 if you at something like the Tekken shop were they want to sell you random basic assets from T7 for real money. I really hope that this method isn't also used for the roster if DLC characters and they bring us at least 1 new character this year
The scene where he walks out is not from the volcano if u look closely that's the dojo of the tekken monks that the Jack 7s nuked
That would explain the bodies you see right before... but the Jack-7 are controlled by the Mishima Zaibatsu, last used by Nina, whose Reina probably enrolled.
We see the TEKKEN Force and the Jacks attacking some opposite force led by Eddy, who met Jin and Lars at the rebel hangar. They are at war, for sure.
The question is : What are they fighting for ? The evil side is commanded by Nina so Reina is most likely the headspot of this force.
Reina is most certainly involved in Heihachi's return... so, I guess the Rebels think : 'Whatever Reina's plan is, we must stop her.'
... or maybe they don't even know Reina is behind all of this. She was on Rebels side during the war against the G-Corp.
Theories:
1. Like Jin, Kazuya and Reina before him, Heihachi gains devil form through a death experience.
2. Heihachi is possessed by another demon, an oni, similar to Jinpachi.
3. Reina uses her own devil blood to bring Heihachi back.
4. Heihachi just willed himself back because he's fucking Heihachi lmao.
My take on both of your questions :
*How did Heihachi survived ?*
Well, it's simple. He didn't.
Kazuya punched him in the chest, causing Heihachi an heart attack. Then, Kazuya threw him in the lava and Kazuya stared at it for, AT LEAST, five to ten seconds.
There is no way someone interfered at the moment and, as someone said in the comments, Heihachi's body would burn and turn into flames even before touching the lava.
My guess is that the ritual is the key of the whole story.
What is that dark cloud Lidia is looking at ? What is that red 'thing' the masked monk is holding ?
Who is the long-haired man ? What is Reina's role in this ? There's a lot of questions to answer.
Kazuya survived the volcano thanks to the Devil Gene but Heihachi doesn't have it. It came from Kazumi line, which Heihachi is obviously not from.
However, Reina has it. She awakened it. She spent the whole first part of the story studying it to get to know how to trigger it. Also, remember the last words she said in TEKKEN 8's ending :
"Heihachi, my father... On my life, I'll swear..."
... Then she awakens and the music starts. We don't know what she was thinking.
What was it ? 'I will restore your legacy ?' or 'I will bring you back from the dead ?'
I believe she used her Devil Gene and the monks' ritual to activate the blood Moon. Do you remember her rage art ? The shadows forming Heihachi's face and hair under a full blood Moon ?
There's clearly some hints, there. The long-haired man is another key. That's why I'm curious about the dark cloud and the red thing which are sparking threateningly.
I can't wait we have a proper gameplay trailer that will probably tells a lot more, unless B.NAMCO unveils the mystery before, which I doubt because that would spoil the story.
*Who is the final character ?*
I think it will be Ogre.
Ogre makes a lot of sense. We could have him appearing in a Jun's side story and Harada confirmed in a live talk there WILL be an (free) update that allow us to know how she came to survive all this time. That would be the perfect opportunity to bring Ogre back. Furthermore, we know Ogre's blood has amazing properties (remember how the mouse grew in TEKKEN 3's Yoshimitsu's ending). Heihachi wanted to use it to gain power, see if that would trigger any Devil Gene in him, and to be young again to retrieve his former strength.
I do believe Ogre is part of Azazel's lineage and was, somehow, a superhuman demigod embue with the Devil Gene (explains his True Ogre form).
Jin destroyed him in TEKKEN 3. We saw him 'disintegrate' into white sparks... but y'all know how death works strangely in TEKKEN's lore.
You (from the video) mentioned Ogre when looking at the statue. I think it's a statue from the monk temple that got attacked and bombed by the Jacks, as someone mentioned in the comment, but I don't get why Reina, who probably enrolled Nina, would do that additionally to the ritual... did she ? Is she just a spectator ? I still don't think so.
Is Ogre part of this ? That would seem so crazy but hey, we never know. I think we should still keep this idea in mind and see what happens.
Uhm... Sorry for that (very) long text, glad if you liked it if you red it. I've tried to gather some people's ideas from the comments.
Honestly we should’ve seen this coming since street fighter brought back bison… tekken didn’t want to be left behind lol
Harada and Ono are friends who share ideas, Same way Harada and Ed Boon are friends who enjoy trolling for laughs.
@@otdreamer193-j6m lol even more evidence from your comment, thanks for the confirmation
Resurrected via sacrificial blood magic ala Isshin Ashina in Sekiro
Yes
After Kazuya was defeated, G-CORP will send FANKUMRAN to destroy the Mishima Zaïbatsu. Marduk has no story relevance... But Fank has a big one !
Heihachi survived because the lava was actually a swimming pool tht looked like lava
Albert Wesker is probably coming back 😂like Good ol Hechati did
It better be Bruce Irvin
Cuz he will be the final DLC character in this season 1
Bro survived being thrown in Lava. I think we played the wrong character at the end of 7
LAST CHARACTER IN THIS SEASON SOMETHING CROSS OVER? OR JUST FOCUS ON TEKKEN CHARACTERS JUST LIKE WHAT THE CREATOR SAID, BUT WE THOUGHT HEIHACHI WAS DEAD ACCORDTING TO HARADA, THEN WHAT HAPPEN? SURPRISE? CHANGE OF MIND? HOW HEIHACHI STILL ALIVE? I THINK SOMEONE IS SAVING HIM OR HE JUST SURVIVE ON HIS OWN, IT SO UNKNOWN, THIS MEANS THAT THE BATTLE OF TRUE DEVIL KAZUYA AND GOUKI THE SHIN AKUMA IS STILL UNKNONW, KAZUMI DEBT TO GOUKI STILL UNKNOWN, OTHER FANS EXPECT BASELINE STORY ABOUT HOW KAZUYA AND GOUKI WILL BATTLE IN THE NEXT TEKKEN :)
At this point I’m convinced Heihachi is immortal 😂
Waited like 7 years for tekken 7+
For crying out loud, and Heihachi fans waving a shouting hand of applause, it came out of nowhere- by this point Heihachi is an unstoppable machine, but who knows- as the for the 4th character at the winter that could be anybody that’s for sure- forget about Fah Kum and Marduk - I bet the 4th one would be something related to the story installment (could be a new character? But I doubt it) could be Kunimitsu or, definitely Ogre, we kinda need him.
Heihachi after return from lava, im back as 58
The shadows make him look younger, but he seems greyer in the DLC panel. This being said though, he still looks ~10/20 years younger. Maybe, that's part of the ritual ?
I dont think he did survive. Considering his black hair, and the ending saying king of iron fist ressurection, I think he was ressurected
Dude has gone to the lazarus pit
@@Vitor20XX yess
Devil gene
He's strong enough to defeat Kazuya, but the devil gene is just beyond any human ability, and we've seen Kazuya survive the same fate so its safe to assume Heihachi can as well.
Yeah but it took Kazuya 20+ years to be resurrected by G-Corp, Heihachi in a matter of 6 months after Tekken 7 got resurrected! o.O
@@Invicible94these ones are better at it 😁. I'm glad, this way we don't need to wait for Tekken 9 to have him.
@@Invicible94It wasn't 20 years, Idk how people missed that T4 Kazuya intro where it literally states he was revived a few days later after the end of T2's tournament 😂
Volcanoes, the most inefficient way to kill people in tekken, never seems to get the job done.
I don't even play Tekken but not only dude fell in the lava he also kept his face intact being clean shaven.
I still can’t believe heihachi survived. In fact; what’s a Tekken without him anyway?
He may have actually died but was resurrected, as the video implies.
This Heihachi looks a bit younger, like Tekken 2 era HM.
I still feel like Reina has something to do with this I could be wrong
once you realize that Heihachi is the Sun Wukong of Tekken, everything starts clicking into place
I don't think the section at the end of the trailer is immediately after his death at the hands of Kazuya. Heihachi has the Tekken Monk Gi on at the end. I have no clue how he's back, but it seems to me like he's returned to a volcano to give a final test to his newly honed body or something, proving to himself he can't be beaten by the power of nature anymore.
Tbh, I think the only person who would top Heihachi would be Jinpachi. I just, don't see any other Tekken character that can make such a surprise return.
Here’s my three theories
Theory 1: he has a clone body
Theory 2: he’s a ghost
Theory 3: he’s non cannon
All dlc characters will playa a role in story dlc
@@vikingfromnorth45 didn’t we know that
@@robertlafrance9974 yeah
@@vikingfromnorth45 ok
I bet Akuma is the last one. He's coming back to finish the job as Oni
Akuma couldn't defeat anyone in Tekken canon wise.
How did he survive ??? producers want to as usual didn't know a better way to include him in the game and the DLC money that comes with it
Our favourite fighting game franchises like MK and Tekken are Shadow of themselves thanks to hidden agendas among game producers and sony pushing politically correct messages and firing experienced game developers in the name of cost cutting and most importantly due to disagreements in the direction in which gaming industry is heading .
it all started after tekken 6 had come out on ps3 and xbox360 as well; and the mortal kombat series after armaggeddon came out in the autumn of 2006. also soul calibur series has suffered after the fifth game came out in early 2012. samurai showdown and the street fighter series have had similar downturns also. it's as if the developers have no artistic or creative vision for future instalments for their series. all they can do is stay loyal to so called legacy characters and have guest fighters from other games to drive up sales of their games. they have no faith in any of the debutants in their games and even some popular new characters they relegate to DLC. the day ps4 and xbox one hit the shelves creativity truly died when it came to games development. money is more important to the developers than advancing the story of any fighting game franchise. only a token few new characters from recent entries in any of the aforementioned games will make the base roster while the rest of them are consigned to history to the appeasement of people who are not die hard fans of the games. when you look at current entries of established fighting game and you see the rosters you wish some fighters from previous games would come back. i'm in that same boat as you.
These Mishima might have some heat resistance
lava acts like a hot tub to wake up right
Everyone mishimas agree that statement.
Almost ending up like the Fast and furious movies, no matter how dead a character is, they're always gonna come back regardless 🤷🏽♂️
I bet Josie Rizal is going to be the last DLC Character!
Harada's probably like "and he'll stay dead when I'M dead, how about that?"