Good points. .. Cities with well maintained very extensive underground metro network are the best places to stay. (Like London, Seoul etc). You can reach most part of the city in one hour.
Your videos make one think and makes them interesting. Wonder how european cities have achieved golden mean in work life balance. Wish you have increased viewership !
You have raised an interesting question. IMHO, a lot of it boils down to the perception of work itself. Eastern cultures seem to put a lot of emphasis on hard work - China with 996, Japan with its 'karoshi culture', and India with its obsession with 70-hour work weeks. My personal hypothesis is that the abundance of cheap labour made it necessary to do work that was always 'visible' so that your job (and your means of sustenance) doesn't get taken away, which leads to glorification of 'visible' work - which happens to be very mechanical - and disdain for shortcuts. OTOH, western work cultures had a limited labour force and needed to extract maximum productivity. So they focused on innovation in their work practices, which led to smart work and celebrating shortcuts. They realized very early that smart work is often invisible and celebrated it. And one way to celebrate smart work was to encourage people who could do more in less time by giving them time off, perhaps? I don't have any proof for this last part - currently just a hypothesis. However, it'll be interesting to see where this leads to now that we live in a world that is way more connected than back then. The cynic in me fears that it will be a race to the bottom where everyone will try to outdo the other with 'visible' work and no one will have any work-life balance anywhere. Hope I am proven wrong though! :) - Shrikant
Many poor migrants don't just visit and upgrade from there, they stay there for generations and new people keeps coming, and adding more slums. Also slums can make city unhygienic and birthplace for diseases, which is not just rich people problem.
Pune, Bangalore and Delhi started out as consumer cities and over time turned into producer cities. Chandigarh and Jaipur slowly becoming producer cities.
I wonder how you guys are able to put awesome quality video each time... Your content is damn good. But I don't know why RUclips is not promoting it. I also observe that you change your thumbnail after couple of hour being released. May be you thought CTR of this thumbnail is low. But I don't think that's the case. May be try some SEO and tagging etc. I want to see rapid growth of your channel in terms of subscriber base. Because I believe RUclips exist for such type of videos which gives more refined perspective towards life...
Such wonderful thoughts and wishes - thank you so much!! ❤ Firstly, the credit for the quality of the video goes primarily to Navin for the research and our wonderful team at VideoSchool for the setup and edits! Secondly, the thumbnail change is actually inbuilt A/B testing option offered by RUclips. It should not show a different thumbnail once you have finished seeing the video but that's for YT to fix in their code - nothing much we can do there, sadly... :( Thirdly, YT not promoting it is because educational content takes times to build a following as compared to pure entertainment. But we believe in the power of compounding and Karmanyevaadhikaraste i.e., keep making quality videos and give it enough time to build popularity. This is a 5, maybe 10-year marathon for us and so far, we seem to be comfortably on schedule... Once again, thank you for such wonderful wishes - it is always nice to get confirmation that we are on the right track! - Shrikant
Marchetti's constant is based on time, but the discussion was about the traffic. People don't bother travelling 30 mins on empty roads, they get frustrated when it takes 30 mins for just 5 km. Better infra and public transport can really solve this traffic problem (which you discussed later). So traffic is not good at all.
IMO, it is rare that you find empty roads in cities! Villages, yes. Suburbs and/or towns, maybe... And I think that's because empty roads get 'discovered' by other commuters and, over time, they are no longer empty! :) I do agree about the "better infra and public transport" aspects of your comment, though. But I still think it will result in Marchetti's constant being applicable once equilibrium is reached... - Shrikant
@@TheFutureIQ sorry, wrong choice of the word, not "empty" but less congested. Point is that more Traffic does not mean that city is growing. Equilibrium can mean same commute time, but distances covered could be different for different cities. Again, 30 mins for 5 kms ❎ 30 mins for 20 kms ✅
Correct! Whether you travel 5 km or 20 km in those 30 mins, you will still end up travelling ~30 mins. If it takes longer or shorter, you typically end up looking for something closer or farther - either job or home. The reason we correlated it with traffic is that Marchetti's constant is it indicates why people are okay with sitting in traffic for 20-30 mins despite the commute actually being only 5 km. And that further contributes to traffic. Also, it is an average measure, which means some people will travel 5-10 mins, others will travel for an hour, and the whole thing will average out to 30 mins. - Shrikant
Slums may be good for initial growth phase of a city where migrants need to stay but in a city like mumbai where 60-80% of population lives in slums or which they call chawls which are as good as slums, affordability or over population is they key problem because not all the 60% of the people are poor in some other city or state they would have enjoyed a good house
Wow it’s so true, Lahore despite having world class road infrastructure still I need almost need 30 minutes to reach office by bus, two wheelers or car.
Before you come to such a conclusion keep in mind a person does something like this only when it comes to extremes. Poverty is not the problem, the situation is. Try fighting the situation not the problem.
Cities are better to earn money and build a career. Home villages are better to earn peace and happiness in personal life. We chase what we don't have. Turns out most of us doesn't have money, maybe that's why our cities are crowded!!
Every big city has 'slums'; it's just that they might be called differently. Look up the terms 'project housing' or 'ghettos' or 'favelas' or 'low income housing' or 'homeless camps' and compare those living conditions to what we call 'slums'. Every country defines 'slums' differently. Some may not even call them 'slums' but that doesn't mean they don't exist... :) - Shrikant
Is this video only relevant to Indian cities? Because there are many good global cities in the world without any slums. I live in Australia and no city here has a slum.
@@jojosoni i don't know about north india but my maharshtrarian village are better in all sense. Less crowded, Full of greenery, hills and bhima river , pune city is near just by 100 km, Pune solapur Highway is going from my village etc.😌
Well, Marchetti's constant is an average calculation. Which means (typically) for every person who spends ~1 hour in B'luru traffic, there is another person who walks home in barely a few mins. So that averages out to ~30 mins. Marchetti's constant is more of a "typical commute time" gauge for a community rather than a precise measure for one specific individual. But yeah, B'luru tests Marchetti's constant like no other, I'm sure! :) - Shrikant.
Complete BS. I would love to live in a village. This fellow doesn't realise that managing slums in the case of a pandemic like covid is a nightmare and almost impossible. Let villages develop while conserving the environment. With basic health care facilities. Agriculture can be profitable, maybe not in most parts of India , but in most parts of the world. In India, the root cause of all problems is the enormous population.
Indian cities just need good garbage management.. Remove plastic garbages, especially near small roads. That will solve a quarter of the problem
I second this. Also enabling walkability for pedestrians. Conveniences in a city are supposed to be in walkable distances.
Good points. .. Cities with well maintained very extensive underground metro network are the best places to stay. (Like London, Seoul etc). You can reach most part of the city in one hour.
Your videos make one think and makes them interesting.
Wonder how european cities have achieved golden mean in work life balance.
Wish you have increased viewership !
You have raised an interesting question. IMHO, a lot of it boils down to the perception of work itself. Eastern cultures seem to put a lot of emphasis on hard work - China with 996, Japan with its 'karoshi culture', and India with its obsession with 70-hour work weeks. My personal hypothesis is that the abundance of cheap labour made it necessary to do work that was always 'visible' so that your job (and your means of sustenance) doesn't get taken away, which leads to glorification of 'visible' work - which happens to be very mechanical - and disdain for shortcuts.
OTOH, western work cultures had a limited labour force and needed to extract maximum productivity. So they focused on innovation in their work practices, which led to smart work and celebrating shortcuts. They realized very early that smart work is often invisible and celebrated it. And one way to celebrate smart work was to encourage people who could do more in less time by giving them time off, perhaps? I don't have any proof for this last part - currently just a hypothesis.
However, it'll be interesting to see where this leads to now that we live in a world that is way more connected than back then. The cynic in me fears that it will be a race to the bottom where everyone will try to outdo the other with 'visible' work and no one will have any work-life balance anywhere. Hope I am proven wrong though! :)
- Shrikant
Many poor migrants don't just visit and upgrade from there, they stay there for generations and new people keeps coming, and adding more slums. Also slums can make city unhygienic and birthplace for diseases, which is not just rich people problem.
Was this episode a not-so-subtle attempt to say Pune tithe kay uney? 😀😀
Hahaha! Not consciously but, yeah, seems like that, doesn't it? 😜
- Shrikant
@@TheFutureIQ 😂😂
Only (Assal)Real Punekar will understand
@@rollsroyce4249define real punekar?
Pune, Bangalore and Delhi started out as consumer cities and over time turned into producer cities. Chandigarh and Jaipur slowly becoming producer cities.
Great way to start the weekend!!!
Great perspective. Makes sense.
I wonder how you guys are able to put awesome quality video each time...
Your content is damn good. But I don't know why RUclips is not promoting it. I also observe that you change your thumbnail after couple of hour being released. May be you thought CTR of this thumbnail is low. But I don't think that's the case. May be try some SEO and tagging etc.
I want to see rapid growth of your channel in terms of subscriber base. Because I believe RUclips exist for such type of videos which gives more refined perspective towards life...
Such wonderful thoughts and wishes - thank you so much!! ❤
Firstly, the credit for the quality of the video goes primarily to Navin for the research and our wonderful team at VideoSchool for the setup and edits!
Secondly, the thumbnail change is actually inbuilt A/B testing option offered by RUclips. It should not show a different thumbnail once you have finished seeing the video but that's for YT to fix in their code - nothing much we can do there, sadly... :(
Thirdly, YT not promoting it is because educational content takes times to build a following as compared to pure entertainment. But we believe in the power of compounding and Karmanyevaadhikaraste i.e., keep making quality videos and give it enough time to build popularity. This is a 5, maybe 10-year marathon for us and so far, we seem to be comfortably on schedule...
Once again, thank you for such wonderful wishes - it is always nice to get confirmation that we are on the right track!
- Shrikant
Cities in Gujarat are mostly producer cities with distinctly specific industries thriving in each city
Marchetti's constant is based on time, but the discussion was about the traffic. People don't bother travelling 30 mins on empty roads, they get frustrated when it takes 30 mins for just 5 km. Better infra and public transport can really solve this traffic problem (which you discussed later). So traffic is not good at all.
IMO, it is rare that you find empty roads in cities! Villages, yes. Suburbs and/or towns, maybe... And I think that's because empty roads get 'discovered' by other commuters and, over time, they are no longer empty! :)
I do agree about the "better infra and public transport" aspects of your comment, though. But I still think it will result in Marchetti's constant being applicable once equilibrium is reached...
- Shrikant
@@TheFutureIQ sorry, wrong choice of the word, not "empty" but less congested.
Point is that more Traffic does not mean that city is growing. Equilibrium can mean same commute time, but distances covered could be different for different cities.
Again,
30 mins for 5 kms ❎
30 mins for 20 kms ✅
Correct! Whether you travel 5 km or 20 km in those 30 mins, you will still end up travelling ~30 mins. If it takes longer or shorter, you typically end up looking for something closer or farther - either job or home.
The reason we correlated it with traffic is that Marchetti's constant is it indicates why people are okay with sitting in traffic for 20-30 mins despite the commute actually being only 5 km. And that further contributes to traffic.
Also, it is an average measure, which means some people will travel 5-10 mins, others will travel for an hour, and the whole thing will average out to 30 mins.
- Shrikant
Slums may be good for initial growth phase of a city where migrants need to stay but in a city like mumbai where 60-80% of population lives in slums or which they call chawls which are as good as slums, affordability or over population is they key problem because not all the 60% of the people are poor in some other city or state they would have enjoyed a good house
73 lac north Indians in Mumbai. Only 23 lac have legal houses and out of that only 17 lac have voting rights 😂
Very logical. Tum log ne bahut sare topics pe mera perspective change kiya hai. Aise hi videos banate raho.
Shukriya! Hamari koshish yahi hoti hai ki har hafte Shukrawar shaam 6 baje ek naya episode upload karein... :)
- Shrikant
@@TheFutureIQ Dhanyavaad Shreekant ji. Maine to subscribe kar rakha hai. Automatic pata chal jata hai new videos. 😀
Most under rated channel…plz get this in Hindi as well
Wow it’s so true, Lahore despite having world class road infrastructure still I need almost need 30 minutes to reach office by bus, two wheelers or car.
Before you come to such a conclusion keep in mind a person does something like this only when it comes to extremes. Poverty is not the problem, the situation is. Try fighting the situation not the problem.
Can you please suggest some book references to learn more? Especially about producer and consumer cities?
Cities are better to earn money and build a career. Home villages are better to earn peace and happiness in personal life. We chase what we don't have. Turns out most of us doesn't have money, maybe that's why our cities are crowded!!
Good analysis but not enough convinced
Live real & long life in Village ❤❤❤
Does this logic about slums apply to big cities in developed countries too?
Every big city has 'slums'; it's just that they might be called differently. Look up the terms 'project housing' or 'ghettos' or 'favelas' or 'low income housing' or 'homeless camps' and compare those living conditions to what we call 'slums'. Every country defines 'slums' differently. Some may not even call them 'slums' but that doesn't mean they don't exist... :)
- Shrikant
Bhai is heavily invested in Mumbai real estate.
Bangalore is an exception 😂. Here the average travel time is 120 mins
Is this video only relevant to Indian cities? Because there are many good global cities in the world without any slums. I live in Australia and no city here has a slum.
Villages are better than cities.
Not indian villages
@@jojosoni i don't know about north india but my maharshtrarian village are better in all sense. Less crowded, Full of greenery, hills and bhima river , pune city is near just by 100 km, Pune solapur Highway is going from my village etc.😌
Chennai is what?
Whay about cities known for cultural significance? They are consumed city isnt it?
marchetti is not a constant for bangalore
Well, Marchetti's constant is an average calculation. Which means (typically) for every person who spends ~1 hour in B'luru traffic, there is another person who walks home in barely a few mins. So that averages out to ~30 mins.
Marchetti's constant is more of a "typical commute time" gauge for a community rather than a precise measure for one specific individual.
But yeah, B'luru tests Marchetti's constant like no other, I'm sure! :)
- Shrikant.
Good discussion but seems there is a lot of wishful thinking here.
Complete BS. I would love to live in a village. This fellow doesn't realise that managing slums in the case of a pandemic like covid is a nightmare and almost impossible. Let villages develop while conserving the environment. With basic health care facilities. Agriculture can be profitable, maybe not in most parts of India , but in most parts of the world. In India, the root cause of all problems is the enormous population.