Rebecca Schaeffer Case Analysis | Robert John Bardo | Celebrity Stalkers Who Murder
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- Опубликовано: 30 июн 2024
- This video answers the question: Can I analyze the case of the case of Rebecca Schaeffer?
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Last time I was this early I caught Dr Todd rearranging the plants.
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Worthy topcomment. Gracefully applied that template👌
Comment of the day! :)
That was hilarious
Looks like someone tossed on the picnic table cover this morning. Awesome.
I never answer unexpected knocks on my door, and I'm a complete nobody. If a guy who looked like him came to my home even once, I'm never answering my door again
Me neither. And since I saw a doc on an ex marine who picked locks while single women he'd stalked were in the shower, I bolt & chain my door 24/7.
Right? I don't either.
Indeed, "nobodies" don't get the press, but do get killed. It happens more often than many realize. And almost every woman has been stalked, sometimes unaware for quite some time. I don't know how one can know which stalkers will go right to killing, but all will eventually attack.
If you listened it was because she was expecting her script so HAD to answer the door because the intercom was broken, if it weren't for getting such an important delivery that day she wouldn't have gone down. It's really a horrible coincidence he arrived the day she was waiting for that to come.
@@joan-lisa-smith its weird and in hindsight we can say should have had it fixed, or asked them to call when arrived. During that time people didn't fear and hide like they do now, celebrities or regular people. Just was a freer time, he used to his advantage , led to her untimely death 💀 sad. RIP Rebecca never watched my sister Sam tbh not my kind if show, but you were beautiful in heart and photos 🙏 ❤
Another tragic thing about this death, is that Bardo's name will forever be tagged to Schaeffer's which I think was his ultimate goal, such as with Chapman/Lennon.
We only truly care about the victims at the end of the day, the criminals we want to psycho analyse.
Wow I actually.. never knew the surname of who killed Lennon?, it's weird bc my ex had the same surname lol connections of English
@@Anonymous38572 The Criminals get popularized with Docs constantly and folks glorifying them.
"It really wasn't a good show"- Dr. Grande savage as usual!!!!
It seems like Rebecca was just someone trying to become a working actor and wasn’t caught up in being a famous celebrity. It’s just such a tragic story. You got a wonder how the private investigator and his brother feel knowing that they helped him commit that murder albeit unknowingly.
Yes! I have to wonder why the brother thought that buying a gun for someone who had a previous disturbing history was a good idea. Especially since the dirtbag had already been turned down for a gun purchase. This type of thing should be against the law. In fact I’m pretty sure it is. Such a tragedy.
@@waitwhat9412 So money was behind the idea of buying a gun for a mentally disturbed person who had already been turned down to purchase one? Okay, it's still stupid and terrible!
I can't imagine why disclosing someone's address, especially famous, was even on the list of the PI's services, how is that ever okay?
@@garmtpug "This type of thing should be against the law."
It's called a Straw Purchase and it is against the law now.
She was her parents only child
My best friend from high school later became OBSESSED with Debbie Gibson and Tiffany. It was creepy because he was 20-21 at the time while the two singers were 15 or 16. He wrote letters to them many times. I don’t think he was disturbed enough to stalk them, but his obsession with them caused me to eventually stop talking to him. It just didn’t feel right for an adult - even a very young adult - to be so obsessed with girls in their mid-teens.
I think immature, socially awkward guys get obsessed with younger girls because they have a harder time connecting to women their own age(?) Not really sure, I'm just practicing without a license.
He should've been put away for liking either Tiffany or Debbie.
The Schaffer case is mentioned in The Gift Of Fear by Gavin De Becker.
When you're young in adolescence, it's quite normal to have celebrity crushes. However obsession in adulthood is rather sick indeed. It's a case of wanting someone unavailable you cannot have. There are groupies and then there are obsessed fans.
Celebrities have no anonymity or privacy.
For many people celebrities are societal role models.
@@brucejohnson9696Bardo was that much older than RS
Doc, I have a dry sense of humor but you are the Mojave of humor compounded only by your deadpan delivery. Always surprise laughs.
The only thing better than dad jokes is doctor jokes apparently lol
@Seven Inches of Throbbing Pink Jesus what an epic example my friend, legendary film series
You're on fire today with the one-liners Doc 😂
It is so incredibly tragic that a beautiful young actress was, in some ways, the poster child for creating and passing anti-stalking laws. But putting a face with a story is powerful and these anti-stalking laws are not only for celebrities but for anyone who is being threatened. RIP, Rebecca.
I’m watching this knowing my own intercom is broken. I’m getting it fixed.. I need to stop procrastinating on fixing things that keep me safe. Thank you Dr Grande.
what do you mean intercom
I'll never forget when this happened. Rebecca was well-liked and considered a rising talent. I understand there were those who tried to dissuade her from writing back to fans because of safety concerns. Unbelievably sad 😞
Exactly. This is why celebrities avoid signing autographs and taking pics with people. After John Lennon and then Rebecca Schaefer who would trust anyone?
I remember watching her being shot on television when I was growing up because it was captured on a security camera & I've never forgot that. Rest In Peace Rebecca 🙏
Bob G she was very Attractive seem like a Sweet Lady wow I know you still deal with that was worst I bet I hope you will heal from that ordeal eventually that was Disturbing and sad
@@rolandog5424 these psychos seem to only go after sweet genuine pretty ppl.
@@goodmorningsundaymorning4533 John Lennon wasn't to pretty.
@@paulphilpott8616 true that. Lol
Although it wasn’t captured on security camera. Her intercom wasn’t even working properly.
The Monotone sarcastic jokes kill me.
It’s a dry humor 🌵 ☀️
The sardonic wit is amazing!
This isn't the major issue often discussed about this case, but one of the saddest parts of this story for me has always been that Rebecca was an only child. Her parents lost their one and only. Not only did Rebecca die, but her parents didn't get to experience the joy of seeing their parenting efforts come to fruition as Rebecca matured. And as she had no siblings, her parents lost their only chance to do so. They didn't get to see her develop a career, pursue other artistic interests, marry, have children herself. They never had grandchildren. I think people who have lost their only child to murder have a very complex loss.
Her mother passed away last year on Nov 6. Rebecca's b-day.
I remember seeing Bardo’s account of the murder. He seemed to LOVE to talk about every little detail, as though he really got off on it. It was sickening. Poor Rebecca.
I watched the trial on CourtTV. I was on vacation at the time. He thought it was great. Nutter.
I will never understand why people think they have the right to control celebrities lives. That they know better than them and they should be thankful.
Great video Dr Grande. Hope you are having a nice day!!
Cause we do if I give you a dollar that means I can tell you what to do.
@BIG Jumbo yeah, how so? what exactly do you mean?
@Seven Inches of Throbbing Pink Jesus who wouldn't? what exactly do you mean?
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Rebecca would be 53 years old, had she lived. Maybe a grandmother. RIP
Thanks, Doc.
@Seven Inches of Throbbing Pink Jesus Someone should have told your parents that, then.
I hit like before I even watch Dr. G's videos!
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Me too!
Same!
Thank you Dr. Grande for yet another great video. I wonder how the people who innocently helped him find Rebecca, and the brother who bought the gun for him felt after the poor girl was murdered.
I am sure it has stuck with them for life. I remember reading that Pam Dawber and Mark Harmon were devastated. They did not have anything to do with revealing her address, but they had helped her move into that apartment and settle in there.
@@trace9657 that is devastating.
Imagine hearing a knock at your door, looking down and seeing a small cactus sitting there. I feel like Dr. Grande fans would instantly know it was him.
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This was one of the first cases I remember watching on the then-new Court TV. One thing I’ll never forget is how Bardo described carrying the gun in a bag and grabbing it impulsively when Schaeffer rebuffed him. But when he was asked to demonstrate what happened, he reached behind him in slow motion, retrieving the gun tucked into his belt and crouching/shooting like some kind of TV character. Very bizarre. That pretty much sealed his fate.
Yes, and in a creepy interview he copied her saying why real creep
@@pixied1028 Yes! I do remember-it was ultra weird when he imitated her crying, “WHY?” I kind of wish Dr Grande had mentioned the name of the psychosis people have when they mistakenly believe they’re in personal relationships with celebrities.
I remember this well. It's so hard to imagine going to a DMV these days to get an address for someone.
Progress!
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I really need to catch up on my watching of Dr. Grande's videos. I missed a new shirt yesterday?!?!?!? Shame on me! I gotta get it together!
We need like a quirky neon sign on that wall. Pretty sure it's a green screen, though. Is it?
This one gets me, I remember when this happened. She had such a beautiful smile and so sweet. I was so disgusted that this happened to her.
I was just talking about Rebecca the other day. I loved *My Sister Sam.* Her death prompted actress Theresa Saldana, who was viciously attacked by a stalker, helped pass the _Driver's Privacy Protection Act_ in response to Schaeffer's murder.
For some reason I think about Rebecca's and Bjork's stalkers from time to time. Parasocial relationships seem so terrifying and that's just compounded nowadays with social media because info (both private and public) is more easily within reach.
Yea and on a related note there's direct contact now thanks to twitter and cameo and RUclips. Seems like the barrier is growing thinner. That and influencer culture = the feeling of relatability to someone they barely know. Even if they realized the actor wasnt the character, they may delude themselves with thinking there's a friendship bx the celeb always "responds" to the posts. It's very strange. But once again as with many other killers, the cause is often being rejected or getting indignant and possessive over someone that doesn't "belong" to them. We need to figure out how to teach ppl that they aren't entitled to anyone bc there are so many ppl who have lost their lives just for saying no :(
One of the main themes in Dr. Grande's videos is learning and keeping boundaries! Mental illnesses can cause people to have trouble here. Mental health professionals try to help with these problems.
@@bthomson it's true, I just wish it was more common. If they had more funding to do outpatient programs or a Codep group program that had to have a counselor to facilitate. Bc they need to realize they have the problem first... I feel like that's usually why it doesn't happen / doesn't improve.
So sad. The guy looks comically demented though lol
This guy was a ticking time bomb! He wasn't one of those non-ticking time bombs.
modern time bombs usually rely on digital timers which don't tick
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"Decorative time bomb" Was the joke;)
You posted earlier today. I got the biggest smile when I saw it.
me too! If im really busy, i practice delayed gratification by making myself wait to watch, sort of as a reward for being good and completing my daily tasks ! but, i worry about Dr Grande sometimes .. He looks so tired in todays upload. I hope his fans realize how much he does for us!
Who would love to see Dr Grande analyse Russell Brand?
They also will write unusual fan letters, and usually make one to two attempts at contact before the murder attempt. The fan letters reveal that the person writing the letter is in live with and very familiar with them even though they have never met. This info is legit info from a company that protects high profile clients.
When a person makes comments like that and can’t tell the difference between acting and real life, those are red flags. Why are these never dealt with before it’s too late?
Lots of soap actors will tell you that they keep getting approached by members of the public, who adress them by their fictitious names. Too many people can’t seem to distinguish between fiction and reality.
Back in 2006, I was fortunate enough to meet soap opera actress Kim Zimmer (Reva and "Guiding Light") back stage after a performance of the musical "Gypsy." As I was talking with her, a woman asked her if she called her co-star Robert Newman (Josh) by his character's nickname, "Bud." Miss Zimmer seemed a bit annoyed by this, but graciously answered the question. I just couldn't believe that someone would ask her something like that, but it was clear to me that woman's perception between reality and fiction was askew.
Later, when I showed a friend the picture that had been taken of the two of us, he asked me if Kim Zimmer actually had cancer, which was Reva's storyline at the time on "Guiding Light." I was dumbfounded again. I really don't think that sort of thing is all that uncommon after that experience.
@@cosimavonliebenau8317 Our society is fixated on television, stage and movie screen celebrity. It's simply bizarre.
Excellent Question!!!
@@cosimavonliebenau8317 This happens to all actors who work on series tv where people think they "know" them.
Haven't commented as much lately but wanted you to know I still watch every video! You have been a immense help to me during my Psychology graduate program, my focus being behavioral so thank you for all the awesome info you provide. I wish you were one of my actual professors!
Well, he is a professor and he is ours...🤗
@@bthomson so true!
What a lovely comment Kristina..........good luck with your studies. :)
Glad your covering this. I remember when this happened. It shook me up, big time, as a young woman.
Same here. Realized how easily this could happen to anyone.
This is sad. She was so young. Being a celebrity isn't all fun and games. On a less serious note... The Titanic joke 😂
His brother should also have jail time for buying a firearm for someone else
I feel for the brother, sister and detective.
They all aided the perpetrator in some way but I'm sure they did not realise what was to come.
@@erikparent8176 I don't feel for the private investigator. He should have done the first background check on the client, from the get go. BIG MISTAKE.
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It's important that he is forgiven and that he forgive himself.
Learn from "mistakes" and forget the memory of "past"
The Titanic joke got me so good😂😂
Time-stamp?
Thank you kindly, this was spot on. The best thing from this terrible homicide was that we finally got the anti-stocking laws started and protections put into place. Her death is sad, but not in vain.
Rebecca’s case probably saved many lives from these stalker types. i remember when this happened. Very sad her life was taken away. A situation that could have been dealt with before it got to that point. he very clearly needed help.
I watched a few videos this morning it’s nice to see a new one uploaded early!
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your dry humor gets me through the day. thanks so much for the vid Dr. Grande! 🙏🏼
YES! This is a video I've been waiting for you to cover! 😍
You're such a prolific uploader that at some point I hope you cover the cases of Ronald Clark O'Bryan, Brenda Ann Spencer, and/ or Seung-Hui Cho.
Thank you so much, Dr. Grande!
Dr Grande your smooth delivery of the sarcastic jokes is the best thing ever! And with a straight face!😂😂Thank you for your analysis doc!💜
Wow videos are flying out thick and fast as of late. I love it! Btw I’d love to hear your take on the Keddie Cabin murders. Lots to unravel there.
My daughters look at me oddly when I laugh out loud to Dr. Grande's jokes. 😆
Thank you for covering this case, it shouldnt be forgotten. As usual, great video.
I have learned so much from watching videos on your page. Thanks Dr. Grande.
I think that some of Bardo's fixation on Rebecca Shaffer, likely came from the fact, that she was at a stage in her career, where she was just starting out, she wasn't a huge star, so she seemed accessible and approachable to him, sort of like the next door neighbor or something. She wasn't surrounded by body guards, assistants, and wasn't living behind a gated estate. She also had personally responded to his fan letter, which someone close to her, told her was a bad idea, because fans tend to over exaggerate the "relationship" that they have with the celebrity. Just a sad situation. She could have possibly gone onto be a big star.
Good morning Dr Grande. I've never heard of these people , but your analysis says it all.Great analysis. The topic was interesting and sad. Thank you Dr Grande, have a great day.
Love your content and appreciate the regular uploads Dr Grande
Better than clockwork!
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Probley not as accurate as Atomic clocks! 🕖⚛
Thank you Dr. Grande💛
Ugh, I'm remember this case. I remember watching "My Sister Sam". It was a cute show and Rebecca was adorable.
Great analysis.Thank you Dr. Grande
A double upload?! 👀 Dr. Grande you never miss! Great analysis on such a tragic event. ❤️
Was the detective who got Rebecca's address for this nut punished ?
He didn't break any laws. They wouldn't supply him with such info today b/c of cases such as Schaeffer's.
Great take on this case doc. I've never heard of it. Thanks
Forensic psych student here to say I absolutely adore your channel. I share it with anyone with similar interests. Wish you much success on YT and thank you for the amazing content!
There was a recent poll on YT asking whether you wanted to be poor and famous or rich and anonymous. I was like, who in their right mind would want to be poor and famous?!😖 Your fame exposes you to completely crazy people, but now you have no resources to deal with them?! I would much rather be left alone to live my life, have financial security and help people as I wish without scrutiny.
Sooooo ... is the DMV still handing out private addresses to random psychos who wander in off the street?
No, they realized that this had been a bad idea pretty quick. The addresses were sold to individuals and marketing businesses providing a nice revenue stream for the state. Many states at the time did this as well.
You are on FIRE with this one, Dr.Grande⁸
Omg. Comparing Godfather 3 to the Titanic is killing me 😆
More bloopers, Doc?
That was so hilarious last time
It seems like his brother ought to have received jail time too.
Throwing shade at Kate & Allie🤣
If you haven't, can you do one on the murder of Domique Dunne, and the subsequent joke of a trial there was ?
Find it interesting, and sad when read of it.
The guy that killed her only served 4 yrs!!!😡
I agree! What an outrage that was.
@@christophervaldez8746 was a disgrace of justice for sure, and a tragic loss at 22 of a great talent, much more a loving daughter and sister 💔
@@kelseymariel2127 terrible and her parents now passed on, only her brothers Griffin & Alex Dunne survives her memory. RIP Dominique 😢 😪 💗
For those unsure of who she was it took last one she was most know as oldest daughter Dana, in original poltergeist movie, she died in 1984.
Early Grande, what’s not to like? Interesting.
Yes!
I love all the 80s hair in the photos
Remember this case...very sad (can always recognize that 80's hair haha👧 & great quips again). Thanks for the info about stalkers Dr G😊💚💚
Will never forget this case. 😔 Thanks for covering it. Loved GL and My Sister Sam. I was a kid. Lol
I just got done reading about this nut in Gavin de Beckers book The Gift Of Fear.
I re-read that book every once in a while to remind myself.
@@martyal yeah, I'm almost done reading it for the first time. I made many notes and underlined, and highlighted alot of stuff. This book could litterally save your life.
Good analysis, thank you.
The dryness of humor in these videos is next level. "Unspeakable disaster". Keep it up!
Very sad. I well remember this. May she rest in peace.
Good material 👍
I like doctor's last phrase in this video very much. 💜 I would like to add to this case that the behaviour nowadays called "stalking" hasn't always had such a negative image and closeness to criminal actions such as murdering someone. In the Medieval Age it was called high courtly love and well accepted. Once it was done properly it was rather an art. Of course this kind of remote admiration needs to root in a mental stability that a person diagnosed as bipolar or schizophrenic rarely fully obtains. Mental health problems have become so widespread in modern societies that doctors last sentence is without a doubt true.
Excellent commentary as always!! 😂👏🏿
No surprise that Dr. Grande is a Bob Newhart fan. :-)
Yes, less likely to be a Ted Knight fan( Hot head) but extremely funny as Judge Smails in Caddy Shack! 🗣🤡🤣
Thanks Dr.. Grande💯Wow! I recall the news reporting on this as a kid. statements made by the people robert encountered, most importantly his brother, sister, and doctor seemed to be enough for prevention...that's crazy how high profile people addresses could be bought from the dmv back then. r.i.p. rebecca🙏🏾
This was a sad story. I remember it well. No one should lose their life so young and so needlessly.
Yessss I am leaving a comment here. It’ll generate an interesting dialogue.
If you read all the good doctor 's comments the way I do, you will easily agree that this is true!✍
Oops.... someone is reading this sh*t? Well then I was just.. I have .. my dog did it... he likes to play with the keyboard... attached... to my ...phone... yea
And then again ...
This case has alarmed me on how easy it is to find people that don't want to be found, how easy it is to just hunt, stalk, and scare someone is almost like all the opportunities in the world to hurt someone but very few ways to protect victim's.
I can never forget this case. I liked My Sister Sam. So sad. How did he find her apartment? I never answer my door unless I verify who they are. She was young and trusting.
He was able to get her address from the DMV I think. Back then privacy concerns went out the door. She had no idea she had a stalker. Plus she was waiting for a script to be delivered so it wouldn’t have been out of the ordinary for her to answer her door. Not everyone lived the high style life. She was my age at the time. This case always bothered me.
@@kelseymariel2127 that’s so scary 😱😱
@@kelseymariel2127 The dmv sold addresses.
@@tribbles2955 Bardo paid someone to get that address from the DMV. A private investigator.
Please cover Foodie Beauty (RUclipsr) Eating disorder & drug addiction.
Aida please is unnecessary it’s annoying like telemarketers who call you when you’re trying to eat dinner
@@sherryhannah498 😂
Hot mess express right there!
This sad 😞 story was in the book The Gift of Fear: Survival Signals that Protect Us from Violence
I suspect that Dr. Grande was a court jester in a previous life. Leave it to Dr. Grande to balance out the comic and the tragic! It's much appreciated. 🙂
I see him more as a wizard ( like Merlin or Gandalf).🌃
🃏maybe?
You are correct.
Yogi's, Swamis, ect. Say that whatever comes easy in this life or seems to be a natural talent, has been in use, in previous lifetimes.
Its likely the doctor was humourous and cerebral in previous lives.
This is not my belief system but a knowing system obtained from direct experience and intuitive knowledge.🙂♾
Teachers regarded him as a time bomb but nobody did anything about it. Where were his parents, why didn't they do more? It's totally depressing to think about how many messed up and confused people are out there. I think I'll just go someplace and cry for a few hours... or a few days. Maybe not, it gives me a killer headache. Thanks for sharing, Doctor G. 😎
Exactly. His brother provided him with a gun too all while knowing this guy had serious mental health issues.
@@kelseymariel2127 WTH!!!
Now that's a trip down memory lane. I'm still in love with "Debra" Gibson.😁
I find your jokes delivered in such a dry manor extremely humorous.
Dr. Grande today proudly presents his shirt with the number 42698 "grid pattern".🙂
There's no disorder in that shirt.
Its deterministic, all the way!
Entropy is an ordered phenomenon which increases in complexity!
The numbers have it! ( 42698)
Definitely a welcome super early video, especially as I'm convalescencing after a heart attack and these videos really do help, good call Dr Grande 👍.
Edit : "Kinda like boarding the Titanic in 1912" 😂 I almost coughed up my stent 😂
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Started playing your videos for my husband. Now he’s a fan too. ✊
I found this video fascinating for professional reasons, as I am going to receive my PhD in Criminology later this year. Stalking was a small part of my thesis.
I always love the dry humor!
A sad case:/ Good presentation Dr. Grande! I like the Film.
Dr. Grande - a couple of well-known UK missing persons cases to consider: Claudia Lawrence (2009) and Suzy Lamplugh (1986). I'm also amazed you haven't done Lord Lucan yet!
It was so sad that Claudia's dad died recently never knowing what has happened to her
Is there a connection between your dry humor and your love of dry succulents or am I overthinking it?😉
Poor Rebecca! Nobody to protect her. She was so young! I like this topic and the idea of doing a series on celebrity stalkers! Like David Lettermans stalker for example. Thanks again for another riveting topic from Whoville!💜