@@CaptainMacTavishSoap Yet it is established that she had a melee weapon and a handgun with her blaster , a decent character would've waited for an opportunity and risked it knowing that she was "laser proof " and that she had the element of surprise with her ( they don't know that she is "laser proof" ) . This may not be an incoherence but it confirm that she is pathetic just like the rest of the antagonist ( hux , Kylo and snoke )
These are dark times. Many are being seduced by the Dark Side, and the SJW Empire is rising and producing millions of mindless clones to conquer the galaxy.
@@hanburgundy4317 Hahaha bang on the money mate. That show was the biggest prick tease. Had so much going for it, and after all that time they just ended up spooning each other in purgatory. What an utter let down.
Even Carl Sagan stated in an interview on late night television, The Johnny Carson Show, (before Empire even came out) that he was upset that the Wookie didn't get a medallion at the end. That fucking says so much more than it seems.
@@reek4062 Yeah that's why she screams in anguish when he dies. Oh wait but she's not supposed to, since she hasn't known him for years! You absolute hackfrauds.
Even Mark Hammill said that he thought Luke staying on the island was dumb. He thought Luke should have been there to help Han and Han Luke and Leia should have been together on the first movie and thought Rei and Finn had no reason to care about Han's death since they just met.
@ECKohns The Mystery Box only works if there's actually something inside of it. Look what happened with _LOST_ . You raise all of these questions and get people hooked - that part works - but if you don't follow through on any of the mysteries, they all fall completely flat and have no meaning whatsoever; it ruins the entire experience.
@ECKohns " JJ Abrams layed out something with plenty of possibilities." You're a moron. JJ wasn't supposed to lay out his stupid mystery box, making it up as he went along, as he's always done. Everything he's done has sucked and this is a part of why.
Well, in the old Expanded Universe, the Imperials did struggle against one another. They got weaker and weaker, they fought over who would succeed the Emperor, and eventually, with the reduced fleets of Star Destroyers that they had, they used smaller strike cruisers in greater numbers to fill up the space left by the Star Destroyers that were destroyed or lost to the Rebels. They also had to unite behind leaders like Grand Admiral Thrawn or the Cult of Ragnos to strike back at the Republic. There was even one part where the Emperor had a backup plan and had clones of himself ready in the case that he died, and Luke and co. had a real fight against him. I dunno, I suppose those stories were written back then when Lucasarts was run by people with ACTUAL BRAINS..........
@@Psilocybin77 That kind of stuff happens to me all the time. It's called "synchronicity". It signifies something profound----that you're exactly where you should be, and right on time-----not a second too early, nor a second too late.
ikr why is everyone being so fucking nice in the comments? There's barely any negativity in the comments, how gross! people being nice really makes me lol cRiNgE really hard am I right haha xD rawr ;).
The Internet Explorer what? To clarify my feelings (on the first comment) FYI: I cannot understand how people find content like this far superior to RLM's analysis. --Likely mostly because the review is negative and makes as many nitpicks as possible, I suppose.
thats probably the only force part in the movie i actually didnt mind. Kylo didnt know rei had the force so didnt have his defences up. She was able to just use raw ability to reverse what kylo was doing to her. All the other force scenes were bs.
@@eeeonsphere3327 wasn’t Kylo not fully trained? Plus, I don’t remember any mental probes in the OT. Wasn’t it all preternatural awareness, telekinesis, and Palp’s lightning? I thought Vader only ever fought physically with Luke?
The Rey mary sue stuff with the force is basically the entire problem with the pholosophy of the new movies concerning the force as delivered to us by Rogue One. Chirrut Umwei says that the force decides everything and demonstrates that by walking casually through a gun fight without being hit so that he can flip a switch. So, basically, the force is now plot armor and allows everyone to do exactly what they are supposed to do no matter what , and the reason the main good guys are never harmed by stormtroopers blaster fire or tie fighters is because they haven't done what they are supposed to do yet in the movie and nothing that happens is the result of the skill or planning or judgment of anybody in the movie.
I agree! At this point its basically just like a video game with a bunch of people who are normally completely invincible until the plot decides its finally time for them to die!
Can you imagine all the deus ex machinas that can fill every plot hole by using the force? It's the quickest way to lose interest as a viewer. "What ever will they do to get out of this ....?" Make up some nonsensical force bullshit, problem solved! Its the gift that keeps on giving lazy writers a "good idea"
1) No, the force only works that way with Donnie Yen. Rey being powerful has nothing to do with it. 2) R1 didn't invent the "God protected him from the bullets" trope. 3) Yes, magic and fate as in-universe plot armor is something that happens and works in fantasy or mystical plots etc. Go watch realismo verismo if you don't like it.
That plinkett review was so disappointing. He spent more time talking about the prequels and classic trilogies. I'm glad this guy is giving us a proper review.
So am I, and as we all know, the only way he could've possibly reviewed this film "properly" is by taking someone's original concept and blatantly stealing it due to a lack of talent and creativity. Fuck this guy.
It's called blatantly ripping someone off due to a lack of talent and originality. Parody, eh? Sure, this guy would be the Weird Al of RUclips.... if Weird Al had no talent and wasn't fucking funny. You blowing this unoriginal fuck or something?
Tell it to RUclips's stupid algorithm. It took a journey through MauLer and WorldClassBullshitters videos for this to show up at all in the recommendations for me.
@@desther7975 Damn same here and those youtubers are also awesome. Do you watch geeks and gamers? Unfortunately he still defends the Farce Awakens but atleast he doesn't drink the Disney koolaid for the rest of the Disney Star Wars trainwrecks.
The Force Awakens review will forever be a black mark on RLM for me, how the hell they could overlook so many mirror flaws that the prequels had while giving so much of this film a pass was disappointing.
Lake Overpass Why? So he take notice of the "bigger picture"? The fact remains that they were too lenient on that movie. If Lucas had produced Ep.VII, i guarantee they would have torn it to shreds.
They were willing to give it a pass because it was being handled by a new director and were more focused on commenting on the general commercialization of the property. The film served its purpose to them.
Salty Shunk so they were ok with making Star Wars into a vapid product to comercialize and sell toys... Which is something they addressed countlessly in the Prequel Reviews.
@Always watching How is that an excuse, though? It's like a going to a McDonald's that you've been going to for years and ordering a hamburger, but then they say they don't quite make them anymore since there are 3 other McDonald's in town that make the same thing. Or a popular Italian restaurant saying they won't be making lasagna since all the other Italian places in town are also making it. Okay, they're being different, but at what cost? It's their staple dishes. It's the same with reviews, in my opinion. The sequel trilogy is plagued with problems, minor and major. Half in the Bag skirting over them is bad enough, but a Plinkett-style review has no excuse for dropping the ball this horribly. Bringing up new points and ideas aren't the problem, it's completely ignoring the major problems and/or brushing them off that's causing the upset and suspicion. Especially since, as you said, they pretty much championed the RUclips movie review train near the beginning. Through the Plinkett reviews (and by extension, Half in the Bag) people got a general (if comedic) idea of RLM's standards, viewpoints, and criteria of what they considered 'good film-making'. Their Force Awakens reviews (both Half in the Bag and Plinkett) were jarring to people because it seemed that their former standards and criteria were thrown out the window in favor of nostalgia, "saying something different", possible film fatigue, corporate payouts (which I doubt personally), outside pressure, etc. We don't really know. The point is, people feel that they underperformed. Why? Because they have years of their own reviews to compare them to. Yeah E;R, Mauler, TDW, Ponstory, Misanthro Pony, and now hackfraud will go into the same details but to me that just doubles down on the impact of how terrible these sequels are. For RLM to seemingly ignore these realities throws their ongoing credibility into question, and it really shouldn't have to be this way. Also looking at you, Nostalgia Critic... I'm not trying to make this into a bigger deal/debate than it has to be, (I usually don't even comment in these conversations), I'm just trying to piece together everyone's perspectives.
The destruction of the Death Star in A New Hope uses visual storytelling to help the audience feel what the characters feel and comprehend what's going on story-wise. X-Wings have light colors to show that they're used by the good guys. They're shaped like a spear with wings attached. They look like they can get taken out with a few shots, as is indeed the case. They're designed for great speed. TIE's look like enhanced bulldogs and their black painting makes them seem like sinister little shadows. They're agile but slower than the X-Wings. However, Vader had a specially designed advanced TIE x1 that matched the X-Wing's speed. The cockpits of the ships are also different. X-Wings have a light interior, TIE's are dark and glowy. The small size of the Death Star trench creates a claustrophobic feel. In that trench the X-Wing pilots are sitting ducks at the mercy of the advanced TIE's. The camera shows the speed of the spaceships in a very intelligent way: it looks almost like the X-Wings are on a fixed path, incapable of moving around. The trench helps to increase this illusion. Even though this isn't true, it creates the feeling that this is their final destiny, they can't escape their fate. With no options other than flying straight ahead towards their ultimate goal, they get picked off one by one from behind, incapable of fighting back or escaping due to the unintelligent weapon design of the X-Wings. The smart camera use and the trench make it appear as if death and failure is inevitable. The only pilot who gets close to the exhaust port misses his shot and leaves the trench. Eventually only Luke is left and he's quickly being approached by Darth Vader's black TIE's which has taken out all of the other X-Wings. As all hope seems lost, Han appears from above in his disc-shaped Millennium Falcon and interrupts the pursuit by the TIE's. Vader is defeated. Luke takes his shot and saves the day. What makes this scene even better is that it takes several minutes, constantly increasing the tension. The whole focus is on this one scene, there's nothing to distract from it. The order in which everything happens creates a constant downward spiral of emotions. The whole approach towards the exhaust port is filled with pitfalls. Loss after loss, nothing seems to go right until the very final moments. And then there's the music, one of the best things about the OT. In this scene John Williams helps to increase the tension by putting just the right instruments and twists into his music. He tells exactly the same story that we see on screen. But wait, there's more! The sound department does a fantastic job at conveying how overwhelming everything is inside of the trech. The sound the speeding spaceships and the guns make are incredible, they add so much to the atmosphere. Compare all that to the destruction of Starkiller Base and tell me it's anywhere near as impressive. I dare you.
Can we nit pick about the briefing scenes too? The original trilogy had several briefing scenes where a commander explained the upcoming mission to the pilots about to do something. It helped BUILD THE TENSION and also explain to the audience what was up, what the stakes were. ANH: the death star trench run briefing scene was a huge help in building the tension and stakes before the climax. ESB: the impromtu briefing on Hoth to the speeder pilots that Leia gave was great (really built her character a bit as an authoritative female even more). ROTJ: briefing scene on the star cruiser before the Endor battle was another good tension builder, though it was the weakest of the original trilogy briefing scenes (still decent though). In the original trilogy, although we are dealing with space fantasy, the briefings were a bit more 'realistic'. One single commander figure ran through the details of the mission. The TFA, there was a weird briefing scene before attacking the starkiller base where it was kinda a free-form conversation from one character to another with no logical apparent chain of command or leader. Before a big military op planning a mission isn't a brainstorm exercise. Both Rogue One and Last Jedi had similar weird briefing/command free-form conversations.
That's what happens when kid's with arts degrees hired for diversity reasons that think military planning is a group therapy session get to write a star wars film.
@Maximillian Wylde I think we have to remember too, inspiration for the original trilogy had some old WW2 films that featured briefing scenes that were a bit more modeled on actual WW2 briefings. The new trilogy has no similar stock to build on. If drawing on anything, JJ is drawing on his brain-addled TV format.
I think they were inspired by the disorganized,hippie-ish jedi council meetings from the prequels. It was one of the hidden prequel things like those flags in front of Maz Cantina's bar. 😆
Jumping from one Last Jedi rant to the other, I found your excellent video. Great work, thank you for taking the time to create it. Now please, make a long, long nasty Episode VIII review video. I want it to be slow and painful. I want that atrocious movie to endure what I felt watching it.
If long and painful's what you're after, Try: The Last Jedi and the Fall of Star Wars Apologies for no link. It's a mammoth review at least five hours by the excellent, if dalek-like, mis-an-thro-pony.
1. Finn’s defection from the First Order, should’ve have been proceeded by a “are we the baddies?” Conversation. 2. Poe should’ve been with Finn instead of disappearing, so Poe could fly the Falcon, because, you know, he’s an experienced pilot? Also, Poe & Finn’s “buddy cop” chemistry was one of the best things about the movie. 3. Rey should’ve lost to Kylo, probably lose a hand, so she knows she needs to learn more and improve before facing him again. It gives her a reason to seek out Luke & they can bond over the missing limb. It also requires them to put a gap of time between the films. 4. If Finn doesn’t have Force Powers, Poe’s the pilot, Rey’s the Jedi, Finn has to be on the “leadership” track. Using First Order military strategy for what he sees as a better cause.
@@achaudhari101 100% of people who unironically use the insult "snowflake" in 2019 have absolutely no idea what it actually means and only say it because they've heard other people say it.
i saw this review at 90 views. it was originally shilled on 4chan's /tv/ board. any 4chan board bashes whatever gets shilled. people afterward just followed the dislike bandwagon, assuming it to be bad.
I thought this would be a cringey knock-off imitation... but this was actually really good. I have no idea why RLM went so easy on The Force Awakens. It's honestly the worst hollywood-blockbusters of it's caliber that I've ever seen. They must have been given "hush-money" or something. No excuse for how much Plinket has been dropping the ball lately. Keep up the great work!
RLM sucks now. I unsubscribed years ago when they refused to address the obvious Bullshit going on in movies today. They refuse to address ANY of it. I follow Nerdrotic instead. Gary keeps it real.
"So far a bunch of nerds on the internet are speculating that Episode VIII is going to solve all these problems, that somehow the next movie will retroactively make us care about these characters." Too bad it went the _other_ way....
Plinkett fanboys disliking this shit because he copied the style The point of this was to give us a review of TFA that Plinkett should have given us. I hope the real Plinkett will tear TLJ apart, but if it’s anything like the TFA review at least we can have this guy actually tearing apart the film.
RLM have almost become embarrassing. They actually mock people who call her a Mary Sue, despite the term being entirely appropriate in this case. Perhaps they fear the fact that people will label them Trump supporters if they use the word, so they try to pretend its not an issue. But if this were a George Lucas movie, i guarantee they would have criticised Rey and lambasted the movie in general.
Reflex I think they're more so mocking the fact that people whine about it so much, and think that it's such a huge deal for a Star Wars movie. It's really not... And also, you are REALLY jumping to conclusions with the whole comment that they're worrying about being assumed as Trump supporters. Maybe they just disagree with the Mary sue comments or think they're worthless/Rey being a Mary Sue (to an extent) is not a major flaw of the movie.
Scott thebassplayer It kind of is a big deal if it's your MAIN CHARACTER. You want to relate and follow them on their journey, or else what's the point?
Scott thebassplayer I have no idea how i never saw your comment until now, but saying "its not a big deal" is completely asinine. It damn well is a big deal when the character in question is the main protagonist and is what the majority of the plot revolves around. Its also made even worse by the fact that those hacks at Lucasfilm call anyone who has this criticism "sexist" or that they're apparently "threatened by strong independent women", to the point that its become a bloody meme. And again, RLM seem to clearly share the same attitude, hence why they don't even acknowledge it. Otherwise, why wouldn't they at least concede that the criticism is valid even if they disagree with it? It breaks immersion, it causes frustration and it makes me doubt the plausibility of everything happening in the movie, even from a fictional standpoint. It isn't interesting by any means. As it is stands, Rey has no arc, no distinctive qualities at all and almost no obstacles to overcome, which is definitely not something to strive towards, if you're a storyteller.
The problem RLM faces is that they know that they will be obliterated by the SJW-controlled press if they dare say anything negative about Kathleen Kennedy's abominations. This wouldn't be so bad if they were starting out small right now, but they've already built themselves a decent living. --I would also gather that the presence of this video is why they're not doing Plinkett anymore (he's been AWOL for a year now).
@@Scottthebassplayer98 As people - can I call them people? - as douchebags that spent so much time making fun of the prequels, especially where characters were concerned, the fact that they _didn't_ give movies and characters that actually DO warrant such criticism the same treatment is very telling. After seeing them melt 2,000 vintage Star Wars figures in acetone today, I'm 100% certain that they aren't and never were Star Wars fans.
I think the point of the RLM review was that there isn't much point in reviewing each new movie Disney shits out because they're all going to have the same problems. We're probably not going to get a Plinkett review of any of the new movies because they're probably just done caring.
You don't know about the shilling? Have you seen the RLM softball thrown at TFA? You better look again because Stevie Wonder can see how shit the Disney incarnation of Star Wars is...RLM gives this garbage a pass? Unacceptable AND Pathetic..they are shilling HARD- and what makes people act that way? Money.
New guy here from the EFAP recommendation, and I just have to say, I was so unaware how much music matters. I grew up watching a bunch of classics because I had an awesome aunt who got me to watch the original trilogy, terminator 2, and the first die hard (there were probably others, but those are the ones that I can clearly remember). When I heard the trench run music used in this video, I got so hyped. When I hear the throne room battle music (esp. the swell as Luke really goes in on Vader) my chest gets tight. The terminator theme is ominous, but exciting. I can't think of a post-2005 movie that really got to me with its music. I know it's not just nostalgia, because I LOVE the robocop soundtrack and I didn't watch that until I was an adult. Pretty much anything by Moricone sucks me in right in. I can still appreciate good music, I'm just having trouble finding it in major releases. Thanks for helping me come to appreciate this.
Normally I would give you shit for shilling on /tv/ but this is actually a video worth shilling, especially since Plinkett reviews come out so rarely. Nice job.
i love plinkette and rlm, but this is a far better plinkette review of the force awakesn then the actual plinkette review. I hope he redoes indiana jones and the crystal scull.
Watch the prequel reviews and other mentions of star wars in half in the bag, etc. This guy has ripped of every point Redlettermedia have already mentioned. Plinketts reviews already had these points before so he wasn't going to repeat it over and over. Truly Hack Fraud Media!
i saw this review at 90 views. it was originally shilled on 4chan's /tv/ board. any 4chan board bashes whatever gets shilled. people afterward just followed the dislike bandwagon, assuming it to be bad.
This review is so good. Every point is explained perfectly. I guess this guy wasn't paid the way Plinkett was. Anyways, my biggest question is, if Rey isn't a Skywalker, why does she look just like Padme? Why did the trailers imply that she was Solo's / Leia's daughter? Was it just to make us speculate? Now we have a virtual twin of Padme and it was all just to keep us guessing until the movie came out? JJ Abrams is an idiot. JJ and Kennedy need to go.
I believe it was all to keep us guessing & yes JJ is a fucking idiot. He knew damn well the fans would speculate online about Rey, the lightsaber, Vader's mask & Snoke. I think Rian purposely removed things that have never ever been re introduced: Anakin's saber, Emperor 2.0. So he destroyed them because JJ is an idiot.
If you changed nothing about Rey but made her into a boy, would the character still work? Wouldn't you think that the boy who played Rey was the Director's son and that the movie was a vanity project to show off the kid? (Sort of like how After Earth was a vanity project for Will Smith's kid?)
AS mentioned dozens of times by multiple people, Rey is a bad character or more accurately, a horrible protagonist. Gender, skin tone, sexually orientation doesn't matter, the character is written badly. That is not to say that there's but a way to write OP characters, I mean a lot of people look up to Superman and canonly Batman is surrounded by a fuck ton of Deus Ex but writers still knew when to rein it in. the film just did a horrible job with that, adding innumerable traits out of nowhere expecting the audience to still worry or sympathize with someone who has essentially had it easy in the story.
@@sofakingimmature "adding innumerable traits out of nowhere expecting the audience to still worry or sympathize with someone who has essentially had it easy in the story." Well lots of viewers did sympathize with Rey, so shrug. What an autistic comment lol - no we don't "just sympathize with sb if they have it hard", what hack filmschool prof told you that?
He did spend way too damn much time reblasting the prequels than dissecting The Fore Skin. Almost like it should have been two videos and maybe held off until more from Disney happened since parts of the problem are connected now to The Last Jedi. Good example would be how the bad guys are the "First Order" which, unlike the _Galactic Empire,_ doesn't carry context or convey that they are a wide-scale threat which "empire" usually carries while "first order" (especially "order") only implies a small sect of some greater machination like knighthood or religion. Are the FO just the Imperial Remnant which most modern audiences could understand and probably would have been better called since we know just killing Palpatine wouldn't mean that the war is immediately over necessarily? The Last Jedi starts off with the simple sentence: "The First Order reigns". If this were the remnant of the Empire, we could grasp that the destruction of the New Republic capital system (which the film poorly conveyed) would more than allow for the FO to swoop in on the power vacuum to regain the hill in spite of Starkiller's destruction. However, since we only really ever see one Star Destroyer and the base, we could easily be lead to believe that the First Order was snuffed out when the base went up leaving a few Star Destroyers, Snoke who apparently was elsewhere, and not much else. But if they said it was the Imperial Remnant, then we could assume there definitely are more Star Destroyers, held planets, and resources fighting a losing game that just slightly flipped more in their favor after the Starkiller strike. Another term would be "resistance" vs "rebellion" since one implies a denial of power sought compared to the other which implies the refusal of power which is already possessed. The First Order going against a _resistance_ implies an invading force (no pun) which they resist the advancement of but if this were indeed the Imperial Remnant which the title "First Order" does not convey, then it more than demands that our heroes are still apart of the Rebellion because they are trying to liberate that which is still under the Empire that is remnant.Terminology is a major element to storytelling because it allows for the audiences' poo-filled brains to fill in the gaps that can't be visualized with something more than just pizza fillings and images of semi-naked Leia. MMmmmmmmmmM! It might also have been wise to have the new films not parallel so strictly to the real world passage of time because 30 years later and they still haven't squashed the last pieces of the Empire makes things look silly. Better to have just made the First Order a whole new thing that didn't need to exploit the visual iconography of the Empire and gone all new to reset the conditions of what the two opposing forces of Good and Evil are so that there is no roadblocks to having to explain things. We don't have to worry about Finn being a black stormtrooper because whether or not the Empire still used clones or by then had regular people as their paramilitary the First Order would be a horse of a different color that set it's own backstory. Might have even helped if this weren't Episode VII and instead jumped ahead like how Star Trek jumped from Enterprise-A to Enterprise-D just to show that major leaps have occurred that sets things apart and allows for gaps to be filled in later with a Midquel Trilogy that explores Snoke, the Knights of Ren, the power shift from Empire to New Republic, etc. Hell, then we wouldn't necessarily need the old cast back until the MT and if any weren't around, get a new actor who can better represent a 10-15 year aging rather than the actual actors' 30.
MichaelAarons1701 honestly, still having imperial remnants thirty years later would’ve been pretty believable. Between the systems that would’ve seceded because that’s what they were trying to do already before the Empire, the systems that refuse to acknowledge the fall of the Empire, the places where the Empire still actually remains (if you wonder what the difference is : the first one is a planet that voluntarily choses to oppose the new republic, the second one is any place where the imperial navy or army or bureaucracy continues to hold power independently or in spite of the systems they have control over wanting that or no), the lawless systems at the edge of the galaxy, and the systems that would refuse to join the newly founded republic because they didn’t trust any galactic power anymore, and the nations that would try to be the new galactic powers, between all of these things... the Republic would’ve some major work to do, which would leave plenty of opportunities for imperial remnants and imperial loyalists to join forces and resist/survive the New Republic. Too bad they didn’t use any of that to explore the extremities to which the republic and the new jedi orders would’ve been ready to go to bring back the galaxy under the Republic’s fold.
@@extratao50 Ah, dammit, how could I forget ? Thanks mate, dodge a bullet on that one. Can you imagine if I asked for subtle and complex stories about characters trying to outsmart one another in a web of ever changing alliances for the sake of competing personal and national interests, set in a galaxy wide conflict with a multitude of agents of different ideological backgrounds ?! The horror >< Thank god Disney was there to rescue us from that ^^
34:30 You may have missed this lovely moment on your first four viewings: Ray shuts her right eye as if to shoot cross even as the movie tells us she's great with a blaster. This channel is such a gem. Grandpa didn't even notice that probably.
Legitimately forgot I wasn't watching a Plinkett review after we got into it proper; just pretend Plinkett has a cold and the mannerisms and acting is spot on
That was actually really good. Points off for no originality, but points returned for how good of a copy it was. I was pretty impressed with how closely you matched the tone, pacing, editing, voice, and jokes of the orginal Plinkett. A couple times there I forgot I wasn't watching a Plinkett review. Must have taken you ages to make, and I appreciate it. And good job bringing up a lot of the points we expected the real Plinkett to mention in his review but didn't. I agree with almost everything, except you didn't say anything about the film's positives. There was actually a lot to like in the movie. Going in, my expectations were lower than dinosaur bones, so I was delighted when I first saw it, just like Mike Stoklasa was. After the catastrophe of the prequels, and considering who was making the film, I think it was about the best that could be done. All that said, I'm a little surprised your video hasn't been very well received, because 1. It's the review a lot of RLM fans were expecting from Plinkett but didn't get, and 2. You did a helluva job on the facsimile Maybe stop shilling it on 4chan? There are other channels.
The Coincidences Awakens : Kylo Ren and Finn attacks right as Lor San Tekka gives Poe the Map before he gives it to BB8. All of these are on the same planet, and not too far away from Rey who finds BB8, and just convinces an alien to give the valuable BB8 to her. Poe is imprisoned somewhere where Finn may break him out. After crashing, Finn, of course, runs straight into Rey and BB8 and the Millenium Falcon !! Why does Han Solo go to Maz Kanada? Has Leia moved the base since last time they meet? And of course, Kanada has the lightsabre, an item which suddenly can speak to people (Rey) And so on ...
Awesome review, you can tell he's a true fan of Plinkett's reviews just by the way that he embodies and uses his style so well, while also taking loving jabs at it and Star Wars. This is a great watch for any Plinkett fans, its not just a copy, its very clever, well thought out, and has the same sense of humor.
Imagine if the good guys were in charge and they were chasing down some elusive threat instead. Have the bad guys be weakened to the point where they're desperate, and they find a new source of power by the end which would make them a threat in the next two movies. Maybe the Empire split into pieces and some pieces made peace with the New Republic while others kept fighting. Maybe the Imperials who still keep up the fight have their Star Destroyers be held together by duct tape and rivets, with missing parts and guns that are so poorly maintained they sometimes explode in combat. Maybe there's not enough Stormtroopers and the majority of the Imperial Army are poorly-trained, barely-equipped conscripts, while the remaining Stormtroopers are at the back, guns pointed at the conscripts so as to shoot them if they attempt to flee or defect. Maybe when the heroes land a shot on a Stormtrooper leading some Imperial Army conscripts, the conscripts either flee or even defect to the Republic side because they've got no love for the Empire. And then maybe the Imperial renegades bump across a hidden cloning facility or a droid factory left untouched after the Clone Wars, along with some very resource-rich planets, and they start pumping out droids or clones to supplement their waning forces. Then the next film can begin with a surprisingly well-equipped enemy attacking all over the galaxy, testing the defenses of the good guys and dividing their attention, then in the third film, a fully-rebuilt Empire with weapons tech as good as the old empire or even better drops all pretense and attacks the Republic at full force, with the enemy leader being some Imperial Dark Jedi obsessed with revenge over the defeat of the Empire, a man who spent decades' worth of time in training and is now as strong as old man Palpatine, setting the stage for a final fight with Luke Skywalker. But no, we just had to rehash everything from the past. And not even in a good way. Thanks, JJ.
I just find it funny how people are so full of strawmen. Max Landis had a good point. That's the funny sexism about new movies. The female can't be in any risk of failure whatsoever. I can already say that I wouldn't have cared if Luke was like that.
Despite having been a band nerd, I never realized the 20th Century Fox logo and Star Wars theme were the same key. TIL something objectively true that clearly is used to subjectively influence audiences. Thanks!
I never saw The Force Awakens as anything but RLM and feminist bait. It wasn't even that safe since it fucked the Jedi progression system into the dirt. In the previous films, even wunderkinds like Anakin and Luke took time to train. They were barely powerful in their first two movies, then in their third movie, they came into form. Rey was holding off attempted mind-rape and was winning fights with Dark Jedi in her first film. And it was so sloppy that they had to explain it as Rey subconsciously downloading Kylo's training when the latter failed at mind-raping her. "Safe" would have been Luke and a female Jedi apprentice kicking ass and taking names, like my playthrough of Jedi Academy where I play as a female Jedi and fight alongside Luke against some new Sith threat-that would bring in the female demographic while playing it safe with the older fans. "Safe" would not undo everything the OT characters accomplished, but rather build on top of the foundation that it laid. See again, Jedi Academy, and how Luke's revived Jedi Order became a well-established force that the New Republic calls in for support. You'd have done a better job with a "safe" film if you brought in Michael Bay and all he did was have the Jedi kick ass and have human and alien chicks show off T&A all the time. Maybe Rey as a character would have worked better if she was Jaina Solo and she was already trained off-screen so as to explain where her Jedi powers and experience with machines and lightsabers came from. TFA meanwhile, was meant as a callback to the OT, down to the point where they REVERSED things so that the Empire is once again strong, the Rebels are once again weak, the Jedi are once again nearing extinction, Han Solo is a smuggler once more, just to get in those Red Letter Media fans who kept whining about how bad the Prequels were and how good it was back in the Original Trilogy days. And yet TFA utterly shits on the lessons of the OT, the most prominent of which was the lesson of Empire Strikes Back, the lesson which states that experience and wisdom matters. Luke had more power than Darth Vader, and Vader even says that Luke is strong enough to kill the Emperor, but thanks to his lack of training, he can't even make it past the Emperor's mechanical manservant. For that reason, Yoda tried to keep Luke from engaging the enemy until his training was complete. Meanwhile, TFA shows us that so long as you have the power of feminism at your side, you can instantly learn how to ward off mind-rape and be an expert lightsaber duelist even though prior to you meeting the enemy, you didn't even know the Force exists. At the same time, everything accomplished by the good guys in the Original Trilogy is gone. The new democracy they created is ineffective and worthless, the good guys have even less forces than they did when they were a rebellion against a galaxy-wide empire, the Jedi are eradicated once more, the new Empire is just as evil as the old, except it has weapons that make the old empire look like a backwater post by comparison, which made the OT worthless as the actions of its heroes accomplished absolutely nothing. And of course, the Prequel-bashers ate that shit up, calling Kylo Ren a "better Anakin" (even though he's everything bad about Anakin with none of the good) and saying that EPVII is the direction the Prequels should have gone but didn't. Meanwhile, I was sitting there, fuming at the fact that A) they made the Original Trilogy about as pointless as Naruto anime filler by making the OT heroes' accomplishments WORTHLESS, and B) they don't understand the main lessons the OT tried to teach. For each praise they threw at Disney's way, they added in more Lucas-bashing to go with it. And then now the tables have turned: now the fans want Lucas back, and now the prequel-bashers are about as popular among SW fans as dengue fever is in Manila. The fact that RLM can talk on for hours praising the Original Trilogy's values while giving TFA a pass goes to show they didn't know SHIT about the Original Trilogy, since TFA basically made the accomplishments of the OT's heroes null and void while missing the point of the OT's lessons entirely. All it did was rob the OT of its aesthetics, add in Instant Jedi Just Add Feminism, and JJ Abrams called it a day. No fan of the Original Trilogy would support a film that stole its aesthetics, disregarded its lessons on the need for wisdom and training, and made the accomplishments of its heroes worthless, to the point where the title of Episode VI couldn't even count as true anymore because the ending implied that Luke would rebuild the Jedi Order, which in TFA has been reduced to a failure. "Return of the Jedi" my ass, they never came back in the films! RLM is two-faced in that they criticized the Prequels to hell and back for not being as good as the Original Trilogy which they elevated as a positive example, yet they also praised a film that shat all over the OT's lessons and the accomplishments of its heroes. The people who kept praising the Original Trilogy over the prequels didn't protest at the fact that EPVII made it about as meaningful as anime filler. It was then where I saw that RLM are fake fans of the Original Trilogy, since no real OT fan would accept a film that thoroughly destroys everything the OT heroes accomplished in place of shallowly recreating the scenario of the OT, except they took the good lessons and worldbuilding out and replaced it with SJW feminist pandering. I mean, at least Legends waited until 130 years after the movies before having the Jedi get hunted down to extinction again, and even then, they didn't go all the way, since they had a Jedi Emperor who has his own Jedi Knights fighting the new Sith Emperor and his Sith minions, and both emperors had legions of Stormtroopers and Star Destroyers that they threw into battle against each other, which made the story different. TFA couldn't even wait for 50 years before killing the Jedi off again. I was hoping for a scenario where it turns out in EPVIII, the Jedi weren't extinct, Luke was just hiding them until the enemy revealed themselves so he can send in the boys and girls with laser swords and strike, and that Han lied about the Jedi being nearly extinct to protect his friend's plans. But that didn't happen. Why? Because TFA made it clear that the Jedi were extinct again. And people wonder why the next film after it was titled "The Last Jedi." We went from "Return of the Jedi" for Episode 6, and two movies later, it's "The Last Jedi", which makes the sixth movie completely pointless. But let's not fool ourselves. It all started with TFA. Rian Johnson only chose to double down EPVII's flaws while fixing none of them. And I will never stop blaming RLM and the Prequel-basher crowd for this. They're the reason Lucas sold to Disney, their endless insults wore him down and convinced him to sell, and now that Disney ran the franchise to the dirt, to the point where even the bloody toy franchise is tanking, the destruction of Star Wars as a sci-fi IP and a media giant is complete. All thanks to these clowns.
Bravo! You articulated literally every single thought I had about how TFA made the OT moot and how RLM and their mindless drones are responsible for the shit state Star Wars is in.
This whole review is worth the section about the opening fanfare. Did Disney actually decide not to use their logo cuz they thought it would offend Star Wars fans? I find decisions like this to be so baffling.
Steven Tee not enough clickbait in the title. Ponstory games gives clickbait titles like Force Awakens is The Worst Movie of all time just so people will come and argue with him.
I'm not even sure who the protagonist of the The Force Awakens was. I'm sure the writers meant for it to be Rey, but Finn's arc is much stronger, yet he's out of it by the end. There are a bunch of other little problems with TFA as well. Why does Kylo Ren care at all that Rey escaped Jakku? Shouldn't he care that his father's YT-1300 was seen escaping? Why didn't his ship intercept the Falcon when it defeated those TIE fighters? And so on. The Force Awakens was awful, but Rogue One was okay. I understand the criticism and agree with a lot of it, but at least I could make sense of it, there was some good action, no mystery box, and it had a protagonist.
"but Finn's arc is much stronger, yet he's out of it by the end." I don't like wshmen sue, so Finn is much better and stronger arc, nyah :( "The Force Awakens was awful, but Rogue One was okay. I understand the criticism and agree with a lot of it, but at least I could make sense of it," If "Kylo didn't intercept falcon" breaks a fun action movie for you, then "Leia shrugged off getting tracked", "Needa couldn't think of searching the hull", "Falcon didn't notice Slave 1" should also break ANH ESB for you, which means you're done whining about how some new movie rooins star wars lmfao "there was some good action," Just like Tfa and all the others, yep. "no mystery box," There was one in Esb. "and it had a protagonist." iT hAd a PrOtaGaWwWwWniSt
i saw this review at 90 views. it was originally shilled on 4chan's /tv/ board. any 4chan board bashes whatever gets shilled. people afterward just followed the dislike bandwagon, assuming it to be bad.
I agreed with everything except for the soundtrack. That was as shallow as the movie itself, copying themes from the previous movies and even pretty reminiscent of themes from Harry Potter of all places. At least the prequels actually had unique compositions! (Oh yeah, amongst other creations, but yeah, plenty of issues with the prequels otherwise.)
Good point, and I've learned since I made this comment that Williams didn't even get to compose the soundtrack the way he usually has been able to. Jar Jar Abrams seems to know how to create a formulaic movie and ruin it at the same time!
I like thinking this is Mike imitating someone imitating him doing plinkett on a seperate channel to get reviews out past Disney bribes/restraining orders/death threats
Hi MauLer sent me. Although when he first used the name "HackFraudMedia" I thought he was making fun of RedLetterMedia's name and not just referencing someone else.
You nailed this review. In my opinion, you tackle every issue this movie has and thoroughly explained why the issues were there to begin with to the best of your ability. Nicely done.
28:28 - "Having failed as a father, he goes back to what he knew best: smuggling! But even _that_ isn't the same anymore. He's changed. He's old. He can never get back the groove he once had. Represented by his ship, he keeps chasing after a ghost of his past, and by getting it back, it would symbolize him getting back in the groove one last time...before it all ends."
How stupid do you have to be to listen to the actor playing Poe. "Uuuuh I die in every movie, can I survive this one? :(" Like he's not just thinking "I can be in THREE star wars movies $$$$$"
This is a shameless ripoff, but the fact that new fake plinkett admits that somehow makes it okay. I was so embarrassed for mike and jay after watching their half in the bag for tfa, never thought id see them fanboy out like that. In his plinkett review mike admits that his initial reaction was mistaken but even all this time later he and especially jay continue to make excuses for this movie being a complete step by step carbon copy of new hope, as can be seen in their last jedi half in the bag. That makes this hack fraud justified in his blatant theft
The Farce Awakens is a good example of bad writing where the characters aren't pushing the plot but the other way around. You get no real motivations other then the reaction to an event. It puts the viewer and characters in unbelievable circumstances. such as why Luke skywalker disappeared. Why the Empire is back and as strong as it was before. Why isn't the Republic doing anything? Didn't the good guys win in the last trilogy? It's good to make questions because it creates interest and allows for you to imagine why? But too much of it can make it collapse in on itself. this mostly happens when characters act out differently then how they usually do. Luke Skywalker has always proved to be an optimist and protect his friends, but He abandons his friends and the galaxy to a reemerging evil. Could he be afraid of confronting the monster he created? could he be protecting on of his last padawans? Could he be training himself to confront this new evil but is struggling due to his age. It's this little thing called show and tell. We may never know like Why no one cares about the gradual return of the Empire. if the Nazis were coming back after 30 years I think the world would do something about it. All we have is incompetence. so they cover the incompetence with all the factions being incompetent. With no conflict there is no interest. with no motivation there is no connection. and with no risks there is no tension. It feels like a bad parody it has the body but it doesn't have the mind or the heart.
I would like to apologize. I originally overreacted and gave you a dislike, then I watched until about 3 minutes in and decided you deserved a like instead.
I don't care where you rip off your style from because the focus of you video is on the content - the points that you're making. The points that you're making are interesting and engaging - take my upvote.
Even at his most capable, when he was pulling survival dodging skills out of -his ass- the force while doing the trench run... Luke *still* wasn't good enough and ultimately had to be saved by Han Solo. We watched death by Vader bear inexorably down upon him despite being the main character.
In Harry Potter, it is mentioned A LOT, especially by Hermione, that Harry’s not a great wizard. But he has all these other traits that we in the real world could also have that make us look inside ourselves to see if we have them: courage, he makes the right choices in the toughest times, he always cares about his friends and the ppl around him. He doesn’t save everyone with a super kind of magic. He saves everyone with love.
mystery boxes aren't a bad idea per se. but you can't have them be empty. you need to know what is in it from the beginning so you can have a proper set-up and pay-off.
Captain Phasma is threatened by Finn with a blaster. In the TLJ it's established her armor is blaster-proof.
*Slow clap*
...and a wookie that has been established as being so strong it can rip off people's arms.
So take off her helmet. Ta-da!
+@Ekstij Amezie
+Noctopus
Jesus Christ and many of us thought that the prequels where a mess
Noctopus Finn puts the point of his blaster under the rim of Captain Phasma’s helmet.
@@CaptainMacTavishSoap
Yet it is established that she had a melee weapon and a handgun with her blaster , a decent character would've waited for an opportunity and risked it knowing that she was "laser proof " and that she had the element of surprise with her ( they don't know that she is "laser proof" ) .
This may not be an incoherence but it confirm that she is pathetic just like the rest of the antagonist ( hux , Kylo and snoke )
She can also swim perfectly, maybe she practiced in a sand pool
j k 🤔
Rey probably fell in quicksand but being so powerful, she used it to practice swimming
Rey is the Chuck Norris of Starwars
@@dantobias9164 Now why would you insult Chuck Norris like that?
@@dantobias9164 Kyle Katarn was the Chuck Norris of Star Wars until Disney killed him. F
The horrible thing is seeing JJ Abrams giving lectures and telling students that his terrible writings are good ideas
This is a "shitty bo..." oops I mean "mystery box."
JJ. Is one big copycat
All these years later and I'm STILL pissed off about _LOST_ .
These are dark times. Many are being seduced by the Dark Side, and the SJW Empire is rising and producing millions of mindless clones to conquer the galaxy.
@@hanburgundy4317 Hahaha bang on the money mate. That show was the biggest prick tease. Had so much going for it, and after all that time they just ended up spooning each other in purgatory. What an utter let down.
Leia hugging Rey instead of Chewie pissed me off so goddamn much.
That was my Nuke the Fridge moment.
Hehe I didn’t know what Nuke the Fridge meant so had to look it up. Yup I’m using this term from now on
Even Carl Sagan stated in an interview on late night television, The Johnny Carson Show, (before Empire even came out) that he was upset that the Wookie didn't get a medallion at the end.
That fucking says so much more than it seems.
Chewie seems the only one really affected by Hans dead (except for Kylo Ren, the only decent new character)
@@reek4062 Yeah that's why she screams in anguish when he dies. Oh wait but she's not supposed to, since she hasn't known him for years!
You absolute hackfrauds.
Its not the Plinkett we wanted, but its the Plinkett we needed
This is the Plinkett I wanted.
Even Mark Hammill said that he thought Luke staying on the island was dumb. He thought Luke should have been there to help Han and Han Luke and Leia should have been together on the first movie and thought Rei and Finn had no reason to care about Han's death since they just met.
@ECKohns The Mystery Box only works if there's actually something inside of it. Look what happened with _LOST_ . You raise all of these questions and get people hooked - that part works - but if you don't follow through on any of the mysteries, they all fall completely flat and have no meaning whatsoever; it ruins the entire experience.
@ECKohns " JJ Abrams layed out something with plenty of possibilities."
You're a moron. JJ wasn't supposed to lay out his stupid mystery box, making it up as he went along, as he's always done. Everything he's done has sucked and this is a part of why.
@@hanburgundy4317 That's why ESB is unwatchable.
Luke just met Obiwan
@@username45739 that wasn’t a mystery because it wasn’t set up it was a twist.
Well, in the old Expanded Universe, the Imperials did struggle against one another. They got weaker and weaker, they fought over who would succeed the Emperor, and eventually, with the reduced fleets of Star Destroyers that they had, they used smaller strike cruisers in greater numbers to fill up the space left by the Star Destroyers that were destroyed or lost to the Rebels. They also had to unite behind leaders like Grand Admiral Thrawn or the Cult of Ragnos to strike back at the Republic. There was even one part where the Emperor had a backup plan and had clones of himself ready in the case that he died, and Luke and co. had a real fight against him.
I dunno, I suppose those stories were written back then when Lucasarts was run by people with ACTUAL BRAINS..........
A thoughtful parody of a thoughtful parody of an unwitting parody - this is so meta RUclips may be sucked into a singularity...
Harlow hopefully... sadly it hasn’t happened yet...
Yo
You said it best!
Now I don't have to come up with a clever, original, well-written compliment for this video.
So I won't.
Parodyception!
“People are speculating that Episode VIII is going to solve a lot of these problems”
Oh honey....
It does. After watching episode 8, episode 7 doesn't seem as bad.
weird I read that a second before it was said in the video....
@@Psilocybin77 That kind of stuff happens to me all the time. It's called "synchronicity". It signifies something profound----that you're exactly where you should be, and right on time-----not a second too early, nor a second too late.
@@BrettonFerguson 7 was slightly worse, since it set the stage
@@BrettonFerguson 8 actually shits on all of star wars.
Wow, Mike's new channel is great!
Seriously, I'm glad I clicked. Thank you.
the eye thing after 'you pull the trigger' reminded me of the Naked Gun.... "I can't see anything"
"use your open eye, Frank"
"you're standing on him, Frank"
Are "mystery boxes" replacing "gungas" ?
It's gonna be great.
Goongaas*
You out-Plinketted Plinkett. Excellent job.
Steven Campbell Posts like this on the comment section are seriously making me cringe.
ikr why is everyone being so fucking nice in the comments?
There's barely any negativity in the comments, how gross!
people being nice really makes me lol cRiNgE really hard am I right haha xD rawr ;).
The Internet Explorer what?
To clarify my feelings (on the first comment) FYI: I cannot understand how people find content like this far superior to RLM's analysis.
--Likely mostly because the review is negative and makes as many nitpicks as possible, I suppose.
Scott thebassplayer You're totally lost
Kory Datz Ok then...
Perhaps the future of movie reviews will be all Plinkett clones, but I don't mind as long as they are as competent as this one. Not tshi.
Well said
Are they all going to cook duck meat, then?
Yes, I too was disappointed in Plinkett's cooking of the duck meat in his TFA review
Clown Wars: Revenge of the AIIIIIIDS
This is better than Plinkett.
You forgot the part where Rey turned the force mind probe back around and read Kylo Ren's mind.
thats probably the only force part in the movie i actually didnt mind. Kylo didnt know rei had the force so didnt have his defences up. She was able to just use raw ability to reverse what kylo was doing to her. All the other force scenes were bs.
jebes909090 no such thing as raw ability in The Force to probe a trained individual...go rewatch ESB.
@@eeeonsphere3327 wasn’t Kylo not fully trained? Plus, I don’t remember any mental probes in the OT. Wasn’t it all preternatural awareness, telekinesis, and Palp’s lightning?
I thought Vader only ever fought physically with Luke?
@@eeeonsphere3327 No such thing as Force telekinesis, go watch ANH.
So...this really is RLM, but they were bound by contract with Disney to not talk trash on it, right? So this is their secret channel?
lol. I was thinking the exact same thing about half-way in. Maybe they coached Jay or Rich on the Plinket voice... just to cover tracks.
The Rey mary sue stuff with the force is basically the entire problem with the pholosophy of the new movies concerning the force as delivered to us by Rogue One. Chirrut Umwei says that the force decides everything and demonstrates that by walking casually through a gun fight without being hit so that he can flip a switch. So, basically, the force is now plot armor and allows everyone to do exactly what they are supposed to do no matter what , and the reason the main good guys are never harmed by stormtroopers blaster fire or tie fighters is because they haven't done what they are supposed to do yet in the movie and nothing that happens is the result of the skill or planning or judgment of anybody in the movie.
I agree! At this point its basically just like a video game with a bunch of people who are normally completely invincible until the plot decides its finally time for them to die!
Can you imagine all the deus ex machinas that can fill every plot hole by using the force? It's the quickest way to lose interest as a viewer. "What ever will they do to get out of this ....?" Make up some nonsensical force bullshit, problem solved! Its the gift that keeps on giving lazy writers a "good idea"
1) No, the force only works that way with Donnie Yen.
Rey being powerful has nothing to do with it.
2) R1 didn't invent the "God protected him from the bullets" trope.
3) Yes, magic and fate as in-universe plot armor is something that happens and works in fantasy or mystical plots etc. Go watch realismo verismo if you don't like it.
And he doesn't walk "casually", there's nothing "casual" about his demeanor or the tone of that scene, are you completely TONE DEAF?
@@username45739 You're wrong.
That plinkett review was so disappointing. He spent more time talking about the prequels and classic trilogies. I'm glad this guy is giving us a proper review.
So am I, and as we all know, the only way he could've possibly reviewed this film "properly" is by taking someone's original concept and blatantly stealing it due to a lack of talent and creativity. Fuck this guy.
It's called parody. RLM pay you or something?
It's called blatantly ripping someone off due to a lack of talent and originality. Parody, eh? Sure, this guy would be the Weird Al of RUclips.... if Weird Al had no talent and wasn't fucking funny. You blowing this unoriginal fuck or something?
He did copy RLM's style, but it's still his own words.
Well it wasn’t just a force awakens review but a look on the franchise as a whole, but the review part did kinda suck
Considering how this video turned out, you’re gonna have a field day with TLJ.
Heh
this video deserves far more views
Tell it to RUclips's stupid algorithm. It took a journey through MauLer and WorldClassBullshitters videos for this to show up at all in the recommendations for me.
@@desther7975 Damn same here and those youtubers are also awesome. Do you watch geeks and gamers? Unfortunately he still defends the Farce Awakens but atleast he doesn't drink the Disney koolaid for the rest of the Disney Star Wars trainwrecks.
The Force Awakens review will forever be a black mark on RLM for me, how the hell they could overlook so many mirror flaws that the prequels had while giving so much of this film a pass was disappointing.
Lake Overpass Why? So he take notice of the "bigger picture"? The fact remains that they were too lenient on that movie. If Lucas had produced Ep.VII, i guarantee they would have torn it to shreds.
They were willing to give it a pass because it was being handled by a new director and were more focused on commenting on the general commercialization of the property. The film served its purpose to them.
You know that Disney owns a big piece OT TV and the news, right?
Salty Shunk so they were ok with making Star Wars into a vapid product to comercialize and sell toys... Which is something they addressed countlessly in the Prequel Reviews.
@Always watching How is that an excuse, though? It's like a going to a McDonald's that you've been going to for years and ordering a hamburger, but then they say they don't quite make them anymore since there are 3 other McDonald's in town that make the same thing. Or a popular Italian restaurant saying they won't be making lasagna since all the other Italian places in town are also making it. Okay, they're being different, but at what cost? It's their staple dishes. It's the same with reviews, in my opinion. The sequel trilogy is plagued with problems, minor and major. Half in the Bag skirting over them is bad enough, but a Plinkett-style review has no excuse for dropping the ball this horribly.
Bringing up new points and ideas aren't the problem, it's completely ignoring the major problems and/or brushing them off that's causing the upset and suspicion. Especially since, as you said, they pretty much championed the RUclips movie review train near the beginning. Through the Plinkett reviews (and by extension, Half in the Bag) people got a general (if comedic) idea of RLM's standards, viewpoints, and criteria of what they considered 'good film-making'. Their Force Awakens reviews (both Half in the Bag and Plinkett) were jarring to people because it seemed that their former standards and criteria were thrown out the window in favor of nostalgia, "saying something different", possible film fatigue, corporate payouts (which I doubt personally), outside pressure, etc. We don't really know. The point is, people feel that they underperformed. Why? Because they have years of their own reviews to compare them to. Yeah E;R, Mauler, TDW, Ponstory, Misanthro Pony, and now hackfraud will go into the same details but to me that just doubles down on the impact of how terrible these sequels are. For RLM to seemingly ignore these realities throws their ongoing credibility into question, and it really shouldn't have to be this way. Also looking at you, Nostalgia Critic...
I'm not trying to make this into a bigger deal/debate than it has to be, (I usually don't even comment in these conversations), I'm just trying to piece together everyone's perspectives.
Oh god, TLJ is going to get destroyed.
Me after first 30 seconds: "Oh... no..."
Me after an hour: "This went better than expected".
ya, pretty much spot on, although you could make a video 10hours long and still not get through everything that went horribly wrong with that movie
Brian Greene So much going on!
a surprise, to be sure, but a welcome one
Brian Greene u stupid
Agreed.
Where did you find this unreleased Plinkett review?
On Plinkett's old webzone where if you post a comment you'll get a pizza roll!
Glad you mentioned that the real Plinkett spent too much time talking about anything but the movie. I enjoyed your video much more.
"Be careful, we don't want to offend the money"
I din't know I needed to hear that joke
"The Money Is Always Right!"
Mr. Krabs
The destruction of the Death Star in A New Hope uses visual storytelling to help the audience feel what the characters feel and comprehend what's going on story-wise.
X-Wings have light colors to show that they're used by the good guys. They're shaped like a spear with wings attached. They look like they can get taken out with a few shots, as is indeed the case. They're designed for great speed. TIE's look like enhanced bulldogs and their black painting makes them seem like sinister little shadows. They're agile but slower than the X-Wings. However, Vader had a specially designed advanced TIE x1 that matched the X-Wing's speed. The cockpits of the ships are also different. X-Wings have a light interior, TIE's are dark and glowy.
The small size of the Death Star trench creates a claustrophobic feel. In that trench the X-Wing pilots are sitting ducks at the mercy of the advanced TIE's. The camera shows the speed of the spaceships in a very intelligent way: it looks almost like the X-Wings are on a fixed path, incapable of moving around. The trench helps to increase this illusion. Even though this isn't true, it creates the feeling that this is their final destiny, they can't escape their fate. With no options other than flying straight ahead towards their ultimate goal, they get picked off one by one from behind, incapable of fighting back or escaping due to the unintelligent weapon design of the X-Wings. The smart camera use and the trench make it appear as if death and failure is inevitable. The only pilot who gets close to the exhaust port misses his shot and leaves the trench. Eventually only Luke is left and he's quickly being approached by Darth Vader's black TIE's which has taken out all of the other X-Wings. As all hope seems lost, Han appears from above in his disc-shaped Millennium Falcon and interrupts the pursuit by the TIE's. Vader is defeated. Luke takes his shot and saves the day.
What makes this scene even better is that it takes several minutes, constantly increasing the tension. The whole focus is on this one scene, there's nothing to distract from it. The order in which everything happens creates a constant downward spiral of emotions. The whole approach towards the exhaust port is filled with pitfalls. Loss after loss, nothing seems to go right until the very final moments.
And then there's the music, one of the best things about the OT. In this scene John Williams helps to increase the tension by putting just the right instruments and twists into his music. He tells exactly the same story that we see on screen.
But wait, there's more! The sound department does a fantastic job at conveying how overwhelming everything is inside of the trech. The sound the speeding spaceships and the guns make are incredible, they add so much to the atmosphere.
Compare all that to the destruction of Starkiller Base and tell me it's anywhere near as impressive. I dare you.
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Someone send this to every movie maker currently alive.
Not to mention that the whole planning to take out SK base was about 90 seconds full of jokes & ok let's do this guys
@@S2GUnit huh?
Can we nit pick about the briefing scenes too? The original trilogy had several briefing scenes where a commander explained the upcoming mission to the pilots about to do something. It helped BUILD THE TENSION and also explain to the audience what was up, what the stakes were. ANH: the death star trench run briefing scene was a huge help in building the tension and stakes before the climax. ESB: the impromtu briefing on Hoth to the speeder pilots that Leia gave was great (really built her character a bit as an authoritative female even more). ROTJ: briefing scene on the star cruiser before the Endor battle was another good tension builder, though it was the weakest of the original trilogy briefing scenes (still decent though). In the original trilogy, although we are dealing with space fantasy, the briefings were a bit more 'realistic'. One single commander figure ran through the details of the mission. The TFA, there was a weird briefing scene before attacking the starkiller base where it was kinda a free-form conversation from one character to another with no logical apparent chain of command or leader. Before a big military op planning a mission isn't a brainstorm exercise. Both Rogue One and Last Jedi had similar weird briefing/command free-form conversations.
Glad someone else noticed this too. Just how informal everything is.
That's what happens when kid's with arts degrees hired for diversity reasons that think military planning is a group therapy session get to write a star wars film.
@Maximillian Wylde I think we have to remember too, inspiration for the original trilogy had some old WW2 films that featured briefing scenes that were a bit more modeled on actual WW2 briefings. The new trilogy has no similar stock to build on. If drawing on anything, JJ is drawing on his brain-addled TV format.
I think they were inspired by the disorganized,hippie-ish jedi council meetings from the prequels. It was one of the hidden prequel things like those flags in front of Maz Cantina's bar. 😆
I didn't know Lucas was a war veteran?
Jumping from one Last Jedi rant to the other, I found your excellent video. Great work, thank you for taking the time to create it.
Now please, make a long, long nasty Episode VIII review video. I want it to be slow and painful. I want that atrocious movie to endure what I felt watching it.
Milouse Ventura your call has been answered
If long and painful's what you're after, Try:
The Last Jedi and the Fall of Star Wars
Apologies for no link. It's a mammoth review at least five hours by the excellent, if dalek-like, mis-an-thro-pony.
Who else had to stop and go listen to the 20th Century Fox Fanfare and Opening Crawl?
The last jedi is a dumpster fire .
And the Solo movie is a landfill fire.
@@desther7975 solo was the least bad of all the new star wars films
@Adrijana Radosevic I didn't count that one for whatever reason but I agree it was better
@@aprylvanryn5898 Which is like saying genital warts is the least bad of all venereal diseases.
wait until the rise of skywalker.
It’s frightening just how many times I forgot I wasn’t actually watching Plinkett
THIS is what I had expected, but did not get, from RLM! Well done.
1. Finn’s defection from the First Order, should’ve have been proceeded by a “are we the baddies?” Conversation.
2. Poe should’ve been with Finn instead of disappearing, so Poe could fly the Falcon, because, you know, he’s an experienced pilot? Also, Poe & Finn’s “buddy cop” chemistry was one of the best things about the movie.
3. Rey should’ve lost to Kylo, probably lose a hand, so she knows she needs to learn more and improve before facing him again. It gives her a reason to seek out Luke & they can bond over the missing limb. It also requires them to put a gap of time between the films.
4. If Finn doesn’t have Force Powers, Poe’s the pilot, Rey’s the Jedi, Finn has to be on the “leadership” track. Using First Order military strategy for what he sees as a better cause.
All of these decisions are arbitrary - good alternative ideas, but that's all they are.
It took an impersonator to finally get this thing done. I feel great never donating to any hacks patreon.
Fake Plinkett feels more real here than real Plinkett. Why?
I suppose it's just like Star Wars: One of them isn't owned by Disney
Snowflake
@@achaudhari101
100% of people who unironically use the insult "snowflake" in 2019 have absolutely no idea what it actually means and only say it because they've heard other people say it.
@@TheRaptorPope I use it on people who emotionally hate the newer movies.
@Shamino Warhen 😂🙌😎
Alex Chaudhari, snowflake is used to mock people who think they are unique when they’re not, like hipsters or people who like to make up genders.
This is good
Don't know why it has so many down votes
Also plinket went to easy on it and spent most of his video not even talking about it
i saw this review at 90 views. it was originally shilled on 4chan's /tv/ board. any 4chan board bashes whatever gets shilled. people afterward just followed the dislike bandwagon, assuming it to be bad.
I thought this would be a cringey knock-off imitation... but this was actually really good. I have no idea why RLM went so easy on The Force Awakens. It's honestly the worst hollywood-blockbusters of it's caliber that I've ever seen. They must have been given "hush-money" or something. No excuse for how much Plinket has been dropping the ball lately. Keep up the great work!
good job, was literally better than RLM's
RLM sucks now.
I unsubscribed years ago when they refused to address the obvious Bullshit going on in movies today.
They refuse to address ANY of it.
I follow Nerdrotic instead.
Gary keeps it real.
"So far a bunch of nerds on the internet are speculating that Episode VIII is going to solve all these problems, that somehow the next movie will retroactively make us care about these characters."
Too bad it went the _other_ way....
Plinkett fanboys disliking this shit because he copied the style
The point of this was to give us a review of TFA that Plinkett should have given us. I hope the real Plinkett will tear TLJ apart, but if it’s anything like the TFA review at least we can have this guy actually tearing apart the film.
RLM have almost become embarrassing. They actually mock people who call her a Mary Sue, despite the term being entirely appropriate in this case. Perhaps they fear the fact that people will label them Trump supporters if they use the word, so they try to pretend its not an issue. But if this were a George Lucas movie, i guarantee they would have criticised Rey and lambasted the movie in general.
Reflex I think they're more so mocking the fact that people whine about it so much, and think that it's such a huge deal for a Star Wars movie. It's really not...
And also, you are REALLY jumping to conclusions with the whole comment that they're worrying about being assumed as Trump supporters.
Maybe they just disagree with the Mary sue comments or think they're worthless/Rey being a Mary Sue (to an extent) is not a major flaw of the movie.
Scott thebassplayer It kind of is a big deal if it's your MAIN CHARACTER. You want to relate and follow them on their journey, or else what's the point?
Scott thebassplayer I have no idea how i never saw your comment until now, but saying "its not a big deal" is completely asinine. It damn well is a big deal when the character in question is the main protagonist and is what the majority of the plot revolves around. Its also made even worse by the fact that those hacks at Lucasfilm call anyone who has this criticism "sexist" or that they're apparently "threatened by strong independent women", to the point that its become a bloody meme.
And again, RLM seem to clearly share the same attitude, hence why they don't even acknowledge it. Otherwise, why wouldn't they at least concede that the criticism is valid even if they disagree with it? It breaks immersion, it causes frustration and it makes me doubt the plausibility of everything happening in the movie, even from a fictional standpoint. It isn't interesting by any means.
As it is stands, Rey has no arc, no distinctive qualities at all and almost no obstacles to overcome, which is definitely not something to strive towards, if you're a storyteller.
The problem RLM faces is that they know that they will be obliterated by the SJW-controlled press if they dare say anything negative about Kathleen Kennedy's abominations. This wouldn't be so bad if they were starting out small right now, but they've already built themselves a decent living. --I would also gather that the presence of this video is why they're not doing Plinkett anymore (he's been AWOL for a year now).
@@Scottthebassplayer98 As people - can I call them people? - as douchebags that spent so much time making fun of the prequels, especially where characters were concerned, the fact that they _didn't_ give movies and characters that actually DO warrant such criticism the same treatment is very telling. After seeing them melt 2,000 vintage Star Wars figures in acetone today, I'm 100% certain that they aren't and never were Star Wars fans.
That feel when a shameful rip-off is better than the actual Plinkett review.
John Smith shameless, you mean :p
well, Mike also criticized a ton of movies which went through a lot more effort than his Plinkett reviews.
He stays on target
I think the point of the RLM review was that there isn't much point in reviewing each new movie Disney shits out because they're all going to have the same problems. We're probably not going to get a Plinkett review of any of the new movies because they're probably just done caring.
John Smith cinematic rectum
I don't know about the shilling, but you bring up good points and replicate the Plinkett style pretty well.
You don't know about the shilling? Have you seen the RLM softball thrown at TFA? You better look again because Stevie Wonder can see how shit the Disney incarnation of Star Wars is...RLM gives this garbage a pass? Unacceptable AND Pathetic..they are shilling HARD- and what makes people act that way? Money.
he's talking about how this vid was originally shilled on 4chan's /tv/ board. thats why it has all the dislikes. they're from /tv/.
IT BROKE NEW GROUND!
New guy here from the EFAP recommendation, and I just have to say, I was so unaware how much music matters. I grew up watching a bunch of classics because I had an awesome aunt who got me to watch the original trilogy, terminator 2, and the first die hard (there were probably others, but those are the ones that I can clearly remember). When I heard the trench run music used in this video, I got so hyped. When I hear the throne room battle music (esp. the swell as Luke really goes in on Vader) my chest gets tight. The terminator theme is ominous, but exciting. I can't think of a post-2005 movie that really got to me with its music. I know it's not just nostalgia, because I LOVE the robocop soundtrack and I didn't watch that until I was an adult. Pretty much anything by Moricone sucks me in right in. I can still appreciate good music, I'm just having trouble finding it in major releases. Thanks for helping me come to appreciate this.
Normally I would give you shit for shilling on /tv/ but this is actually a video worth shilling, especially since Plinkett reviews come out so rarely. Nice job.
shit even Kylo Ren loves Ma-Rey and suddenly wants to teach her about the force
WHAT A CHARACTER
This was actually good. The original review was so disappointing. What’s with all the dislikes? Did they expect the real Plinkett?
Came here from Mauler. Didn't know this existed. Thanks.
The dislikes just prove how cultish RLM drones are.
They must obey their master.
i love plinkette and rlm, but this is a far better plinkette review of the force awakesn then the actual plinkette review. I hope he redoes indiana jones and the crystal scull.
Watch the prequel reviews and other mentions of star wars in half in the bag, etc. This guy has ripped of every point Redlettermedia have already mentioned. Plinketts reviews already had these points before so he wasn't going to repeat it over and over. Truly Hack Fraud Media!
The downvotes are coming from directed-in SJWs who likely haven't even seen a Plinkett review.
i saw this review at 90 views. it was originally shilled on 4chan's /tv/ board. any 4chan board bashes whatever gets shilled. people afterward just followed the dislike bandwagon, assuming it to be bad.
Far better than the Plinkett review. Plinkett's TFA and TLJ reviews were very disappointing.
This is what i whanted from the Plinket review, thank you for your hard work.
His hard whork.
This is the Plinkett review we deserved.
This review is so good. Every point is explained perfectly. I guess this guy wasn't paid the way Plinkett was. Anyways, my biggest question is, if Rey isn't a Skywalker, why does she look just like Padme? Why did the trailers imply that she was Solo's / Leia's daughter? Was it just to make us speculate? Now we have a virtual twin of Padme and it was all just to keep us guessing until the movie came out? JJ Abrams is an idiot. JJ and Kennedy need to go.
I believe it was all to keep us guessing & yes JJ is a fucking idiot. He knew damn well the fans would speculate online about Rey, the lightsaber, Vader's mask & Snoke. I think Rian purposely removed things that have never ever been re introduced: Anakin's saber, Emperor 2.0. So he destroyed them because JJ is an idiot.
+Rene Perez
MUH MYSTERY BOX!!!111
Rey looks nothing like Padme
@@dtxspeaks268 I agree.
In my head canon, this is Larry Plinkett, Harry's brother.
If you changed nothing about Rey but made her into a boy, would the character still work? Wouldn't you think that the boy who played Rey was the Director's son and that the movie was a vanity project to show off the kid? (Sort of like how After Earth was a vanity project for Will Smith's kid?)
AS mentioned dozens of times by multiple people, Rey is a bad character or more accurately, a horrible protagonist. Gender, skin tone, sexually orientation doesn't matter, the character is written badly. That is not to say that there's but a way to write OP characters, I mean a lot of people look up to Superman and canonly Batman is surrounded by a fuck ton of Deus Ex but writers still knew when to rein it in. the film just did a horrible job with that, adding innumerable traits out of nowhere expecting the audience to still worry or sympathize with someone who has essentially had it easy in the story.
@@sofakingimmature "adding innumerable traits out of nowhere expecting the audience to still worry or sympathize with someone who has essentially had it easy in the story."
Well lots of viewers did sympathize with Rey, so shrug.
What an autistic comment lol - no we don't "just sympathize with sb if they have it hard", what hack filmschool prof told you that?
He did spend way too damn much time reblasting the prequels than dissecting The Fore Skin. Almost like it should have been two videos and maybe held off until more from Disney happened since parts of the problem are connected now to The Last Jedi.
Good example would be how the bad guys are the "First Order" which, unlike the _Galactic Empire,_ doesn't carry context or convey that they are a wide-scale threat which "empire" usually carries while "first order" (especially "order") only implies a small sect of some greater machination like knighthood or religion. Are the FO just the Imperial Remnant which most modern audiences could understand and probably would have been better called since we know just killing Palpatine wouldn't mean that the war is immediately over necessarily? The Last Jedi starts off with the simple sentence: "The First Order reigns". If this were the remnant of the Empire, we could grasp that the destruction of the New Republic capital system (which the film poorly conveyed) would more than allow for the FO to swoop in on the power vacuum to regain the hill in spite of Starkiller's destruction. However, since we only really ever see one Star Destroyer and the base, we could easily be lead to believe that the First Order was snuffed out when the base went up leaving a few Star Destroyers, Snoke who apparently was elsewhere, and not much else. But if they said it was the Imperial Remnant, then we could assume there definitely are more Star Destroyers, held planets, and resources fighting a losing game that just slightly flipped more in their favor after the Starkiller strike.
Another term would be "resistance" vs "rebellion" since one implies a denial of power sought compared to the other which implies the refusal of power which is already possessed. The First Order going against a _resistance_ implies an invading force (no pun) which they resist the advancement of but if this were indeed the Imperial Remnant which the title "First Order" does not convey, then it more than demands that our heroes are still apart of the Rebellion because they are trying to liberate that which is still under the Empire that is remnant.Terminology is a major element to storytelling because it allows for the audiences' poo-filled brains to fill in the gaps that can't be visualized with something more than just pizza fillings and images of semi-naked Leia. MMmmmmmmmmM!
It might also have been wise to have the new films not parallel so strictly to the real world passage of time because 30 years later and they still haven't squashed the last pieces of the Empire makes things look silly. Better to have just made the First Order a whole new thing that didn't need to exploit the visual iconography of the Empire and gone all new to reset the conditions of what the two opposing forces of Good and Evil are so that there is no roadblocks to having to explain things. We don't have to worry about Finn being a black stormtrooper because whether or not the Empire still used clones or by then had regular people as their paramilitary the First Order would be a horse of a different color that set it's own backstory. Might have even helped if this weren't Episode VII and instead jumped ahead like how Star Trek jumped from Enterprise-A to Enterprise-D just to show that major leaps have occurred that sets things apart and allows for gaps to be filled in later with a Midquel Trilogy that explores Snoke, the Knights of Ren, the power shift from Empire to New Republic, etc. Hell, then we wouldn't necessarily need the old cast back until the MT and if any weren't around, get a new actor who can better represent a 10-15 year aging rather than the actual actors' 30.
They cut out scenes set in the New Republic...but left in that long, boring Rathtar scene 🙄
MichaelAarons1701 honestly, still having imperial remnants thirty years later would’ve been pretty believable.
Between the systems that would’ve seceded because that’s what they were trying to do already before the Empire, the systems that refuse to acknowledge the fall of the Empire, the places where the Empire still actually remains (if you wonder what the difference is : the first one is a planet that voluntarily choses to oppose the new republic, the second one is any place where the imperial navy or army or bureaucracy continues to hold power independently or in spite of the systems they have control over wanting that or no), the lawless systems at the edge of the galaxy, and the systems that would refuse to join the newly founded republic because they didn’t trust any galactic power anymore, and the nations that would try to be the new galactic powers, between all of these things... the Republic would’ve some major work to do, which would leave plenty of opportunities for imperial remnants and imperial loyalists to join forces and resist/survive the New Republic.
Too bad they didn’t use any of that to explore the extremities to which the republic and the new jedi orders would’ve been ready to go to bring back the galaxy under the Republic’s fold.
@@nathanjora7627 no bc POLITICS BAD 😭
@@extratao50 Ah, dammit, how could I forget ? Thanks mate, dodge a bullet on that one.
Can you imagine if I asked for subtle and complex stories about characters trying to outsmart one another in a web of ever changing alliances for the sake of competing personal and national interests, set in a galaxy wide conflict with a multitude of agents of different ideological backgrounds ?! The horror ><
Thank god Disney was there to rescue us from that ^^
34:30 You may have missed this lovely moment on your first four viewings: Ray shuts her right eye as if to shoot cross even as the movie tells us she's great with a blaster.
This channel is such a gem. Grandpa didn't even notice that probably.
Legitimately forgot I wasn't watching a Plinkett review after we got into it proper; just pretend Plinkett has a cold and the mannerisms and acting is spot on
Good God, I never realised just how shitty a character Rey is.
That was actually really good. Points off for no originality, but points returned for how good of a copy it was. I was pretty impressed with how closely you matched the tone, pacing, editing, voice, and jokes of the orginal Plinkett. A couple times there I forgot I wasn't watching a Plinkett review. Must have taken you ages to make, and I appreciate it.
And good job bringing up a lot of the points we expected the real Plinkett to mention in his review but didn't. I agree with almost everything, except you didn't say anything about the film's positives. There was actually a lot to like in the movie. Going in, my expectations were lower than dinosaur bones, so I was delighted when I first saw it, just like Mike Stoklasa was. After the catastrophe of the prequels, and considering who was making the film, I think it was about the best that could be done.
All that said, I'm a little surprised your video hasn't been very well received, because
1. It's the review a lot of RLM fans were expecting from Plinkett but didn't get, and
2. You did a helluva job on the facsimile
Maybe stop shilling it on 4chan? There are other channels.
"Points off for no originality" Just like The Force Awakens coincidentally...
Wait this wasn't plinkett?
Jk
@@Altorin Is this not actually Plinkett? I actually don't know.
ea star wars has loot boxes
disney star wars has mystery boxes
what happened?
When Episode IX inevitably rips off Return of the Jedi moreso than The Last Jedi already did, the Starkiller II will just be a giant floating box.
The Coincidences Awakens :
Kylo Ren and Finn attacks right as
Lor San Tekka gives
Poe
the Map before he gives it to
BB8. All of these are on the same planet, and not too far away from
Rey who finds BB8, and just convinces an alien to give the valuable BB8 to her.
Poe is imprisoned somewhere where
Finn may break him out. After crashing, Finn, of course, runs straight into
Rey and
BB8 and
the Millenium Falcon !!
Why does Han Solo go to
Maz Kanada?
Has Leia moved the base since last time they meet?
And of course, Kanada has the lightsabre, an item which suddenly can speak to people (Rey)
And so on ...
David Orvik preach
Good job being a better plinket than plinket. But i enjoyed watching this.
Awesome review, you can tell he's a true fan of Plinkett's reviews just by the way that he embodies and uses his style so well, while also taking loving jabs at it and Star Wars. This is a great watch for any Plinkett fans, its not just a copy, its very clever, well thought out, and has the same sense of humor.
Imagine if the good guys were in charge and they were chasing down some elusive threat instead. Have the bad guys be weakened to the point where they're desperate, and they find a new source of power by the end which would make them a threat in the next two movies. Maybe the Empire split into pieces and some pieces made peace with the New Republic while others kept fighting. Maybe the Imperials who still keep up the fight have their Star Destroyers be held together by duct tape and rivets, with missing parts and guns that are so poorly maintained they sometimes explode in combat. Maybe there's not enough Stormtroopers and the majority of the Imperial Army are poorly-trained, barely-equipped conscripts, while the remaining Stormtroopers are at the back, guns pointed at the conscripts so as to shoot them if they attempt to flee or defect. Maybe when the heroes land a shot on a Stormtrooper leading some Imperial Army conscripts, the conscripts either flee or even defect to the Republic side because they've got no love for the Empire.
And then maybe the Imperial renegades bump across a hidden cloning facility or a droid factory left untouched after the Clone Wars, along with some very resource-rich planets, and they start pumping out droids or clones to supplement their waning forces. Then the next film can begin with a surprisingly well-equipped enemy attacking all over the galaxy, testing the defenses of the good guys and dividing their attention, then in the third film, a fully-rebuilt Empire with weapons tech as good as the old empire or even better drops all pretense and attacks the Republic at full force, with the enemy leader being some Imperial Dark Jedi obsessed with revenge over the defeat of the Empire, a man who spent decades' worth of time in training and is now as strong as old man Palpatine, setting the stage for a final fight with Luke Skywalker.
But no, we just had to rehash everything from the past. And not even in a good way. Thanks, JJ.
I just find it funny how people are so full of strawmen. Max Landis had a good point. That's the funny sexism about new movies. The female can't be in any risk of failure whatsoever. I can already say that I wouldn't have cared if Luke was like that.
Despite having been a band nerd, I never realized the 20th Century Fox logo and Star Wars theme were the same key. TIL something objectively true that clearly is used to subjectively influence audiences. Thanks!
I never saw The Force Awakens as anything but RLM and feminist bait. It wasn't even that safe since it fucked the Jedi progression system into the dirt. In the previous films, even wunderkinds like Anakin and Luke took time to train. They were barely powerful in their first two movies, then in their third movie, they came into form. Rey was holding off attempted mind-rape and was winning fights with Dark Jedi in her first film. And it was so sloppy that they had to explain it as Rey subconsciously downloading Kylo's training when the latter failed at mind-raping her.
"Safe" would have been Luke and a female Jedi apprentice kicking ass and taking names, like my playthrough of Jedi Academy where I play as a female Jedi and fight alongside Luke against some new Sith threat-that would bring in the female demographic while playing it safe with the older fans. "Safe" would not undo everything the OT characters accomplished, but rather build on top of the foundation that it laid. See again, Jedi Academy, and how Luke's revived Jedi Order became a well-established force that the New Republic calls in for support. You'd have done a better job with a "safe" film if you brought in Michael Bay and all he did was have the Jedi kick ass and have human and alien chicks show off T&A all the time. Maybe Rey as a character would have worked better if she was Jaina Solo and she was already trained off-screen so as to explain where her Jedi powers and experience with machines and lightsabers came from.
TFA meanwhile, was meant as a callback to the OT, down to the point where they REVERSED things so that the Empire is once again strong, the Rebels are once again weak, the Jedi are once again nearing extinction, Han Solo is a smuggler once more, just to get in those Red Letter Media fans who kept whining about how bad the Prequels were and how good it was back in the Original Trilogy days. And yet TFA utterly shits on the lessons of the OT, the most prominent of which was the lesson of Empire Strikes Back, the lesson which states that experience and wisdom matters. Luke had more power than Darth Vader, and Vader even says that Luke is strong enough to kill the Emperor, but thanks to his lack of training, he can't even make it past the Emperor's mechanical manservant. For that reason, Yoda tried to keep Luke from engaging the enemy until his training was complete. Meanwhile, TFA shows us that so long as you have the power of feminism at your side, you can instantly learn how to ward off mind-rape and be an expert lightsaber duelist even though prior to you meeting the enemy, you didn't even know the Force exists.
At the same time, everything accomplished by the good guys in the Original Trilogy is gone. The new democracy they created is ineffective and worthless, the good guys have even less forces than they did when they were a rebellion against a galaxy-wide empire, the Jedi are eradicated once more, the new Empire is just as evil as the old, except it has weapons that make the old empire look like a backwater post by comparison, which made the OT worthless as the actions of its heroes accomplished absolutely nothing.
And of course, the Prequel-bashers ate that shit up, calling Kylo Ren a "better Anakin" (even though he's everything bad about Anakin with none of the good) and saying that EPVII is the direction the Prequels should have gone but didn't. Meanwhile, I was sitting there, fuming at the fact that A) they made the Original Trilogy about as pointless as Naruto anime filler by making the OT heroes' accomplishments WORTHLESS, and B) they don't understand the main lessons the OT tried to teach. For each praise they threw at Disney's way, they added in more Lucas-bashing to go with it. And then now the tables have turned: now the fans want Lucas back, and now the prequel-bashers are about as popular among SW fans as dengue fever is in Manila.
The fact that RLM can talk on for hours praising the Original Trilogy's values while giving TFA a pass goes to show they didn't know SHIT about the Original Trilogy, since TFA basically made the accomplishments of the OT's heroes null and void while missing the point of the OT's lessons entirely. All it did was rob the OT of its aesthetics, add in Instant Jedi Just Add Feminism, and JJ Abrams called it a day. No fan of the Original Trilogy would support a film that stole its aesthetics, disregarded its lessons on the need for wisdom and training, and made the accomplishments of its heroes worthless, to the point where the title of Episode VI couldn't even count as true anymore because the ending implied that Luke would rebuild the Jedi Order, which in TFA has been reduced to a failure. "Return of the Jedi" my ass, they never came back in the films!
RLM is two-faced in that they criticized the Prequels to hell and back for not being as good as the Original Trilogy which they elevated as a positive example, yet they also praised a film that shat all over the OT's lessons and the accomplishments of its heroes. The people who kept praising the Original Trilogy over the prequels didn't protest at the fact that EPVII made it about as meaningful as anime filler. It was then where I saw that RLM are fake fans of the Original Trilogy, since no real OT fan would accept a film that thoroughly destroys everything the OT heroes accomplished in place of shallowly recreating the scenario of the OT, except they took the good lessons and worldbuilding out and replaced it with SJW feminist pandering.
I mean, at least Legends waited until 130 years after the movies before having the Jedi get hunted down to extinction again, and even then, they didn't go all the way, since they had a Jedi Emperor who has his own Jedi Knights fighting the new Sith Emperor and his Sith minions, and both emperors had legions of Stormtroopers and Star Destroyers that they threw into battle against each other, which made the story different. TFA couldn't even wait for 50 years before killing the Jedi off again. I was hoping for a scenario where it turns out in EPVIII, the Jedi weren't extinct, Luke was just hiding them until the enemy revealed themselves so he can send in the boys and girls with laser swords and strike, and that Han lied about the Jedi being nearly extinct to protect his friend's plans. But that didn't happen. Why? Because TFA made it clear that the Jedi were extinct again. And people wonder why the next film after it was titled "The Last Jedi." We went from "Return of the Jedi" for Episode 6, and two movies later, it's "The Last Jedi", which makes the sixth movie completely pointless. But let's not fool ourselves. It all started with TFA. Rian Johnson only chose to double down EPVII's flaws while fixing none of them.
And I will never stop blaming RLM and the Prequel-basher crowd for this. They're the reason Lucas sold to Disney, their endless insults wore him down and convinced him to sell, and now that Disney ran the franchise to the dirt, to the point where even the bloody toy franchise is tanking, the destruction of Star Wars as a sci-fi IP and a media giant is complete. All thanks to these clowns.
Bravo! You articulated literally every single thought I had about how TFA made the OT moot and how RLM and their mindless drones are responsible for the shit state Star Wars is in.
@@biofriik Yep. The fact that Dave Filoni stuff is the only decent SW stuff we have now is all thanks to RLM and their Prequel-hating audience.
@@HolyknightVader999 You really think a bunch of drunks from Milwaukee have THAT much influence?
This whole review is worth the section about the opening fanfare. Did Disney actually decide not to use their logo cuz they thought it would offend Star Wars fans? I find decisions like this to be so baffling.
Bravo! This is the Plinkett review of the Farce Awakens that I wanted.
How does this not have more views?
Steven Tee not enough clickbait in the title. Ponstory games gives clickbait titles like Force Awakens is The Worst Movie of all time just so people will come and argue with him.
I dunno if OP is shilling or not but that doesn't invalidate the video. This is the video I was expecting from Plinkett.
I'm not even sure who the protagonist of the The Force Awakens was. I'm sure the writers meant for it to be Rey, but Finn's arc is much stronger, yet he's out of it by the end.
There are a bunch of other little problems with TFA as well. Why does Kylo Ren care at all that Rey escaped Jakku? Shouldn't he care that his father's YT-1300 was seen escaping? Why didn't his ship intercept the Falcon when it defeated those TIE fighters? And so on.
The Force Awakens was awful, but Rogue One was okay. I understand the criticism and agree with a lot of it, but at least I could make sense of it, there was some good action, no mystery box, and it had a protagonist.
"but Finn's arc is much stronger, yet he's out of it by the end."
I don't like wshmen sue, so Finn is much better and stronger arc, nyah :(
"The Force Awakens was awful, but Rogue One was okay. I understand the criticism and agree with a lot of it, but at least I could make sense of it,"
If "Kylo didn't intercept falcon" breaks a fun action movie for you, then "Leia shrugged off getting tracked", "Needa couldn't think of searching the hull", "Falcon didn't notice Slave 1" should also break ANH ESB for you, which means you're done whining about how some new movie rooins star wars lmfao
"there was some good action,"
Just like Tfa and all the others, yep.
"no mystery box,"
There was one in Esb.
"and it had a protagonist."
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Im seeing nothing but nice comments and this video is well made with lots of effort...are the dislikes fanboys?
Perhaps it's those pesky "I hate unoriginal fucks" fanboys.
Mr Plinkett is forcing the hookers he kidnapped to downvote the video.
i saw this review at 90 views. it was originally shilled on 4chan's /tv/ board. any 4chan board bashes whatever gets shilled. people afterward just followed the dislike bandwagon, assuming it to be bad.
*WAY BETTER than Plinkett's actual review. Well done.*
I agreed with everything except for the soundtrack. That was as shallow as the movie itself, copying themes from the previous movies and even pretty reminiscent of themes from Harry Potter of all places. At least the prequels actually had unique compositions! (Oh yeah, amongst other creations, but yeah, plenty of issues with the prequels otherwise.)
I mean how do we expect a good score with a story so bland and empty the composer has nothing to be inspired with
Good point, and I've learned since I made this comment that Williams didn't even get to compose the soundtrack the way he usually has been able to. Jar Jar Abrams seems to know how to create a formulaic movie and ruin it at the same time!
Prequels have the same issues as the original tbh
I like thinking this is Mike imitating someone imitating him doing plinkett on a seperate channel to get reviews out past Disney bribes/restraining orders/death threats
Hi MauLer sent me. Although when he first used the name "HackFraudMedia" I thought he was making fun of RedLetterMedia's name and not just referencing someone else.
You nailed this review. In my opinion, you tackle every issue this movie has and thoroughly explained why the issues were there to begin with to the best of your ability. Nicely done.
28:28 - "Having failed as a father, he goes back to what he knew best: smuggling! But even _that_ isn't the same anymore. He's changed. He's old. He can never get back the groove he once had. Represented by his ship, he keeps chasing after a ghost of his past, and by getting it back, it would symbolize him getting back in the groove one last time...before it all ends."
can we just pretend that this is the real plinkett review?
I already have.
This is the real Plinkett review wym?
It should be.
MRT, it's simple: he liked the movie, thus he couldn't be more critical of it.
It was a really bad sign when at 50 minutes into the Plinkett review he's still talking about George Lucas.
At first you were the student plinkett, but now you are the master.
More Plinkett than Plinkett
How stupid do you have to be to listen to the actor playing Poe. "Uuuuh I die in every movie, can I survive this one? :("
Like he's not just thinking "I can be in THREE star wars movies $$$$$"
This is a shameless ripoff, but the fact that new fake plinkett admits that somehow makes it okay. I was so embarrassed for mike and jay after watching their half in the bag for tfa, never thought id see them fanboy out like that. In his plinkett review mike admits that his initial reaction was mistaken but even all this time later he and especially jay continue to make excuses for this movie being a complete step by step carbon copy of new hope, as can be seen in their last jedi half in the bag. That makes this hack fraud justified in his blatant theft
Vader had a decent voice modulator with real menace to it... Kylo got some cheap knock-off one...
The Farce Awakens is a good example of bad writing where the characters aren't pushing the plot but the other way around. You get no real motivations other then the reaction to an event. It puts the viewer and characters in unbelievable circumstances. such as why Luke skywalker disappeared. Why the Empire is back and as strong as it was before.
Why isn't the Republic doing anything? Didn't the good guys win in the last trilogy? It's good to make questions because it creates interest and allows for you to imagine why? But too much of it can make it collapse in on itself. this mostly happens when characters act out differently then how they usually do. Luke Skywalker has always proved to be an optimist and protect his friends, but He abandons his friends and the galaxy to a reemerging evil. Could he be afraid of confronting the monster he created? could he be protecting on of his last padawans? Could he be training himself to confront this new evil but is struggling due to his age. It's this little thing called show and tell.
We may never know like Why no one cares about the gradual return of the Empire. if the Nazis were coming back after 30 years I think the world would do something about it. All we have is incompetence. so they cover the incompetence with all the factions being incompetent.
With no conflict there is no interest. with no motivation there is no connection. and with no risks there is no tension. It feels like a bad parody it has the body but it doesn't have the mind or the heart.
Remember kids, everything is given, not earned.
Only when it comes to Mary Sues!
I would like to apologize. I originally overreacted and gave you a dislike, then I watched until about 3 minutes in and decided you deserved a like instead.
This impression is spot on.
Better than what Plinkett gave us.... I fear he has lost his way... Your take on Han coming back to his old ship was moving. Good job.
I don't care where you rip off your style from because the focus of you video is on the content - the points that you're making. The points that you're making are interesting and engaging - take my upvote.
thejobloshow "your video" *not* "you video"
I am 11 minutes in and he's still talking about the fox logo. Who cares.
@@narazyrena2062 Ohhhh we have a grammar nazi here! I love how people like you never have anything to contribute to the conversation. 😭 😂
The review that was promised.
Even at his most capable, when he was pulling survival dodging skills out of -his ass- the force while doing the trench run... Luke *still* wasn't good enough and ultimately had to be saved by Han Solo. We watched death by Vader bear inexorably down upon him despite being the main character.
Those stormtroopers look like Donald Duck stormtrooper. And the first line when the old man says the force is unbalanced was so stupid.
In Harry Potter, it is mentioned A LOT, especially by Hermione, that Harry’s not a great wizard. But he has all these other traits that we in the real world could also have that make us look inside ourselves to see if we have them: courage, he makes the right choices in the toughest times, he always cares about his friends and the ppl around him. He doesn’t save everyone with a super kind of magic. He saves everyone with love.
Jesus, this really is better than the original review
mystery boxes aren't a bad idea per se. but you can't have them be empty. you need to know what is in it from the beginning so you can have a proper set-up and pay-off.